WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Bronx Warriors 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.519 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.240 Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.320 This is Rob Lamb, and this is Joe McCormick. And 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.639 today on Weird House Cinema, we're gonna be talking about 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.240 the nineteen eighty two Italian sci fi action film nineteen 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:30.960 ninety colon The Bronx Warriors, directed by Inzog Castellari, starring 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:36.640 Mark Gregory, Vic Morrow and Fred Williamson. Is this movie 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.640 a copycat mashup of Escape from New York directed by 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:46.240 John Carpenter and The Warriors directed by Walter Hill. Yes, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.920 it is absolutely those things, But this is one of 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:54.200 those cases where a copycat mashup film is more than 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.440 the sum of its parts, at least in my opinion. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.520 I think it's not as good as either of the 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.120 main movies that it's copying, but I would say it's 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.000 at least as entertaining as either of them. I found 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.800 this a thoroughly absorbing spaghetti dystopia. Yeah. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.280 Yeah, this is not a dull exercise in ripoffs or 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.560 anything like. This film has cool cast makes use of 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:26.080 some great legitimate early eighties Bronx locations that you just look, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.399 you know, absolutely post apocalyptic, and we'll get into some 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.240 of those reasons in a bit, as well as some 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:37.160 excellent Roman soundstages. But yeah, it has a great look, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.320 has some cool actors in it, and is weird enough 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.399 in its choices that you're like, oh, oh, yeah, I 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.759 can see that. I can since the DNA, I know 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.880 where what elements are coming together in this particular scene. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:51.960 But it's still coming to get together in a way 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.440 that feels fresh and even daring at times. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.560 Yeah, totally, So I think we should start here just 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.240 with a short plot summary, or at least plots set 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.080 up to let you know what you're in for. So 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.400 it goes like this, eight years into the future, in 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:11.120 the Horrible year nineteen ninety, the Bronx is a war zone. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.119 The cops don't go there. It is ruled by the Gangs. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:21.480 Gangs like the Riders, the Tigers, Scavengers, the Zombies, and 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.880 the Iron Men. There are other gangs mentioned in the movie. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.760 I'd just say question marks about those other ones because 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.480 I don't know if we ever see them, But the 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:37.040 Riders are maybe unsurprisingly an outlaw biker gang. The Tigers 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:41.040 are like, what's what's their deal? They're like cool classic cars, 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.440 and you know they dress in like suits from the 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:44.919 nineteen thirties and forties. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.800 Yeah, classic cars, nightclub finery, with maybe a dash of 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.440 like sword and sand Olympic. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.000 Oh yeah, a little bit of that too, because sometimes 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.480 their leader, the Ogre played by Fred Williamson, is dressed 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.280 like a pirate. Yeah, he wears like a pirate, like 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.280 like a frilly pirate shirt, but in kind of Las 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:04.680 Vegas showbiz colors. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.600 Yeah, he wears fine things. Well. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.000 We also have a gang called the Scavengers, which I 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.519 have questions about whether they should be called a gang. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.720 They rather more seem like a subspecies. They're like a 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.680 mutant or a type of zombie or something that lives 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:19.440 in the sewers. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:24.120 Yeah, they are exclusively underground, pale, pasty makeup, look a 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.560 little bit undead, a little bit mutated. There's certainly, and 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.480 then the Chuds came at me vibe to this. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:34.440 Faction exactly, though not wet zombies. They're dry, dusty zombies. Yeah. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.760 And then confusingly, those the Scavengers are zombies. There's another 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.720 gang that is not zombies, but they're called the Zombies. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.200 The zombies are like roller hockey players. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.520 Yeah, they're they're basically their whole vibe is kind of 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:54.320 like American gladiator Samurai roller skaters, and they actually have 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.120 a really cool aesthetic. I think they're my favorite because 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.000 obviously all of this is inspired by the Warriors, which 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.280 we previously talked about on the show, with you know, colorful, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.200 outrageous costumed gangs running the streets in New York City, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.720 and so it's very much in the flavor of that, 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.000 but especially with the zombies here, with these roller skaters, 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.880 I feel like they really took it and ran with it. 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.799 They're a lot of fun. I would say my favorite gang. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.200 We meet in the movie. We only get a very 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.760 brief encounter with them. I wish there was more. But 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.240 they are called the Iron Men, and these are the 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.839 top hat ballet mimes and kiss makeup. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.559 Yes, they're great as well, but this makes me feel 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.480 like the names of all the bands are mixed up. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.240 It's kind of like that situation where you have a 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.880 scrambling of the names of the characters and street fighters too, 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.400 based on you know, when they brought it over for 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.960 an English speaking audience, where like m Bison and ball 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.719 Rog are mixed and Vegas mixed and because it feels 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.440 like shouldn't maybe the Tigers be the iron Men, you know, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.240 the iron Men would drive classic cars. Meanwhile, the Tigers 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:59.840 are Broadway dancers and mines. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:00.680 I don't know. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.440 Clearly, the zombies should be the actual zombie adjacent creatures 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:05.640 in the undergark. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.640 Know, yeah, yeah, you'd think the mutants would be the 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.200 zombies and not just the roller hockey guys. Yeah. Yeah. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.440 So anyway, that's what's going on in the Bronx. Those 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.520 are the gangs that rule the roost there. Meanwhile, elsewhere 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:21.440 in the city, we meet a rich heiress named Anne. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:26.040 Now I was originally gonna say her name is Anne Fisher, 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.640 because we meet a character who I'm like eighty five 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.720 percent sure is supposed to be her father, whose name 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.120 is Ted Fisher. No, not Ted sam Fisher, because he 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.480 also has his name credited different ways in different sources. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.960 But Sam Fisher. Anyway, that's probably too much preamble. And 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:49.480 whatever her last name is, her father is the CEO 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:54.919 of the Manhattan Corporation and arms manufacturing behemoth that becomes 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.440 ungodly rich off of war, death and misery and by 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.000 the ancient laws of corporate governance. Anne is set to 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.720 inherit leadership of this corporation when she comes of age. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.359 So in rebellion against this In rebellion against this hollow 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.039 and immoral life, Ann runs away from home to the 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.680 lawless waste land of the Bronx, where she falls under 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.840 the protection of a ruthless motorcycle gang called the Riders, 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.200 and she falls in love with their surly, big haired 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:31.240 teenage king Trash. Yes, I can't wait till we talk 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.320 about Mark Gregory and Trash. But then in response Anne's 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:39.960 father and the Manhattan Corporation, they raise the banners. Basically 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.400 they won't let her go that easily. So to retrieve 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:47.960 his daughter, Fisher hires an unstoppable, cold hearted mercenary named 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.560 snake Place, I mean named Hammer to go into the 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.400 Bronx and bring her back by any means necessary. And 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.800 so the setup of the story is, can Trash and 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:04.320 their allies and the writers survive the brutal onslaught of cops, assassins, 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.240 rival gangs, some of whom are mimes and mutants to 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:09.000 live another day. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.440 Yeah, and maybe one day they will truly escape the Bronx, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:13.960 but that is another story. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.920 And she'll be told another time now. I Yeah. So 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.200 there is another movie called Escape the Bronx is by 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.640 the same director in Hastelari. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.840 Yep, yep, Mark Gregory. It's very much the sequel to this. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.240 Oh okay, so straight up sequel, like acknowledged sequel with 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.960 the same characters. Yeah, yeah, okay, cool. Well I would 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:31.720 like to see that then. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.880 Yeah, it doesn't have a stellar a cast, but I 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.120 think I've seen it. I've at least watched I think 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.520 I've watched a riff version at least. But yeah, The 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.520 Bronx Warriors is a lot of fun here. I should 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.280 mention there's also a lot of discussion of a gizmo. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.120 This is not a magua. So if you hear us 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.200 referencing the gizmo, you may every time they mentioned the gizmo, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.080 I pictured gizmo's cute, adorable face. But that's not what 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:56.840 they're talking. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.960 About, though. I would say, in the context of the film, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.400 it's gizmo with the capital G. Not because it's the 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.960 name Magua, but because it's not just like a gizmo, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.440 like a gadget of any kind. It's like a type 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.640 of thing in this setting. Yeah, when you say like 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.640 a gizmos. People are like, oh, a gizmo, you don't 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:16.640 want one of those. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.880 So this movie I alluded to this already was famously 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.880 filmed in both New York City and in Rome, so 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.400 we have all these wonderful exterior sequences in legit post 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.760 apocalyptic looking early eighties The Bronx, which was legitimately in 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.160 extremely rough shape at the time. I think at this 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.000 point something like forty percent of The Bronx was burned 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.440 or abandoned due to a variety of sort of long 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:46.040 term factors, as well as a wave of supposedly insurance 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:50.280 driven arson. I've read the interiors. However, we see these 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.320 are going to be mostly filmed on sound stages in Rome, 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.120 which have a great and ruinous look. At times it 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.679 feels like we're in catacombs, and I can only imagine 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.560 like some of these had to have been shared sets 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.240 with like other like Italian horror movies of the day, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.720 But I don't have any hard facts on that, but 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.800 I'd read elsewhere that like the inspiration for this had 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.079 to do with an Italian director or producer getting off 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.920 at the wrong subway stop and emerging in post apocalyptic 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.280 the Bronx in the early eighties, and they were just like, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.640 where have I traveled to? And that, as well as 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.680 the obvious cinematic inspirations, may have played into the creation 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:29.400 of this picture. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.920 I have a lot of questions about how this movie 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.319 depicts New York geography. There were times where I was like, 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.760 how does it going from here end up there? Like 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.960 I'm not an expert in the layout of New York, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.120 but I have a basic sense of it. And there 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.040 were a lot of times where what was happening did 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.480 not make sense to me, Like it seems like somebody 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.840 is leaving Manhattan across the Brooklyn Bridge and that takes 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:52.720 them to the Bronx. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.920 Well you need you need one of those little GPS 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.880 devices from Mutant Hunt, so then you know exactly where 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.480 in the New York area you actually what are. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.600 Though without any street names or buildings or anything, just. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.440 The general shape, the geographic shape of the islands. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.960 And it has earth and water on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.760 The Bronx in this film is kind of like a 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.480 magical realm unto itself. It can be accessed via different gateways, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.199 but it's set aside from reality, you know. Yeah, it's 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.520 kind of like a like a dark domain, a domain 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.360 of dread from Dungeons and Dragons. It's it's cut off 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.840 by the mist, very much true. So my elevator pitch 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.600 for this is Escape from the Warriors in New York 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:36.079 is specifically from the Bronx, specifically in the Bronx, because again, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.640 we don't escape from the Bronx until the next picture. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.440 So yeah, we already mentioned some ways in which this 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.400 is a derivative or copycat film, but it was having 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.640 it was making me have thoughts about different kinds of 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.760 copycat film making. I would say this is my favorite 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.000 kind of copycat film. So it does not feel like 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.599 a boring and more poorly made tread of a better movie. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.360 It actually comes together in a way that feels pretty unique, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.840 even though you can see what the direct inputs on 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.880 it are. And I think this is for a couple 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.400 of reasons. Part of it is just that the filmmakers 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.719 here genuinely do have their own sense of style. So 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.640 while I would say it does clearly have some plot 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:25.080 elements and costumes and situations borrowed from these other movies 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.480 Escape from New York and The Warriors, I would say 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.240 it's not like trying to copy the cinematography of John 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.439 Carpenter or Walter Hill. It has its own groovy, Italian 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.360 flavored camera sensibilities and pacing and plot structure. It does 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.199 have its own thing going on. And the other thing 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.520 I would say I like about this type of copycat 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.760 is that instead of just being derivative of one movie, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.840 it's a mashup of two. So it's not just like 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.359 I'm making an Italian Escape from New York. It's smashing 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.280 together elements of Escape from New York and the war, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.439 and those particle collisions produce interesting elements on their own. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and what and no matter how like 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.240 direct the cobbling together these might have been at some 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.760 point in the production, you know, by the time they're 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.160 actually shooting it, clearly things have taken on a life 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:15.640 of their own. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:16.559 Yeah. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.280 All right, Well, we'll have more to say about this 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.520 synthesis of ideas as when we proceed into the plot 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.000 and into the cast. But we'll go ahead and say, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.680 all right, it makes sense some of you might wish 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.760 to experience this movie for yourself at this point, and 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.760 if so, yeah, go out and find it. I think 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.920 the disc that I've watched in the past was maybe 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.040 the Blue Underground disc and I am not sure if 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.959 that is still available or not. I did a quick 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.720 search and I really wasn't sure offhand, like where the 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.200 where the best blu ray for this film can be 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:51.320 found right now? But if it's not currently if able 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.360 on something new, then you can at least lean back 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.160 onto that Blue Underground disc from from a few years back. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.240 I have to also mention I was pressed for time 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.600 and did not grab this one at videodrome here in Atlanta. Instead, 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.840 I rented it did digitally and then realized that completely 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.719 unlabeled it was the rift track version of it and 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.599 not the unriffed And to be clear, I think the 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.439 first time I watched this was the old MST three 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.560 K riff of it. So this is a very riffable film, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.800 very much in favor of both rifts of it. But 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.480 thats not what I wanted here for weird house cinema obviously, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.160 And I just want to mention that as a warning 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.040 in case you go out and you want to rent 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.680 it from somewhere online, just be aware it might be 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.920 the rift version mislabeled. So I ended up watching it 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.600 and what was still I think really good quality on YouTube, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:47.600 though that's generally not my preference for this sort of thing. Yeah, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.120 all right, let's let's talk about the cast and crew 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.400 of the people involved in the creation of this picture. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.480 Let's see, we'll start at the top. We mentioned already 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.680 that the director and also one of the writers on 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.680 this is Zog Castellari born nineteen thirty eight as of 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.240 this recording, still with US Italian director active from nineteen 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.560 sixty six through twenty ten. He worked at first in 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.640 various spaghetti westerns with titles like sixty six is a 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.200 few dollars for Django and sixty eight's one dollar two mini. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.040 That's that's always rough. That means you either can't make 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.760 the purchas or more maybe it means you have to 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:26.520 return a dollar. 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.640 I'm not sure this guy he made. I was just 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.880 looking at his filmography, and he made a number of 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.960 films where the title is a whole sentence, like a 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.840 subject and a verb and an object. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.000 There are so many of those Italian spaghetti westerns that 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.440 have that sort of title formation, and I'm generally I've 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.760 enjoyed some spaghetti westerns and some are still on my 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.040 my to watch list. But for the most part, I 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.160 just love these titles where they're titles like Djengo, bring 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.720 a Gun, or you know, there's like a whole statement, 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.320 there's a you could you could diagram the sentence that 0:14:59.440 --> 0:14:59.960 is the title. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.000 Yeah, their titles like dig your Own Grave and I 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:03.920 Will Curse God. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.320 Yes, yes, so yeah. He did some films like this. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.440 He also did war films like sixty nine's Eagles Over 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.760 London or War two Picture I Believe. In seventy one, 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.040 he directed The Jalloh Cold Eyes of Fear. I don't 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.040 know you've seen more of these films than I have. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:21.400 I don't know if you're familiar with this one. 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.360 I don't think I've seen that one. A lot of times. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.760 They have multiple titles. True, I might not recognize the 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:27.880 title even if I've seen it. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.240 Yeah, it might be under a different title you're familiar 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:34.600 with its. Seventy six, he directed Koma. This starred Franco Nero. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.600 He directed Inglorious Bastards in seventy eight, The Shark Hunter 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.120 in seventy nine, also with Franco Niro. The Day of 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.080 the Cobra in eighty. This had Franco Nero in it, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.640 but also Sybil Danning The Last Shark in eighty one, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.320 and then this glorious film set and again in the 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.360 Grim Future of nineteen ninety. So this was his first, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.880 I believe, post apocalyptic movie, but it was not his last. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.600 He followed it up with the memorable nineteen eighty three 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:07.480 film Warriors of the Wasteland aka The New Barbarians. Features 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.440 several cast members from this film and also a really 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.840 cool Claudio Sliminetti score. That's one that I really enjoyed. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.760 There was a riff track of that years back. I 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.040 watched it riff, loved it, and then have subsequently watched 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.480 it without the riff. It's possible we've discussed that one 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.400 on Weird House Cinement at some point in the future, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:25.920 but we'll see. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:26.800 Yeah. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.080 After that, he did Escape from the Bronx, which we've 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.680 been talking about, and subsequent films included eighty nine Sinbad 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.080 of the Seven Seas that had Lufarigno in it, as 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.200 well as various other pictures. And he has a cameo 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.760 in this as a vice president presumably of the Manhattan Corporation. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.800 Is he the CEO named Fisher's Toady, the guy who's okay? 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.840 The second in command. He's very I don't know, he's 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.280 very smartly dressed in this film. He like I kept 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.400 noticing his tie not it's very square. Hmmm. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.520 That's a good observation. I think he must have been 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.960 pretty comfortable on camera, because I know this was not 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.080 a one off. He I think frequently shows up in 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:08.560 small roles and things that he did. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.520 Is that his voice. Is he doing his own dubbing? 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.840 Well, now that I don't know the dubbing, you know, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.159 as is always the case with pictures from you know, 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.439 of this era, eurocinema in general, from this era. You know, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.320 I think everybody's dubbed. Some people, some like English language 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.680 actors in particular, did their own dubbing, and some one 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.159 in particular was not available to do his own dubbing. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.240 So it's it's just mixed. So I'm not entirely sure 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.120 on this. All right, Let's get into the screenplay here. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.840 There are at least two other individuals that are noted 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.560 on this and it is There are a couple of 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.879 names we've discussed before. There's Dardano Sacchetti born nineteen forty 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.240 four his screenplay story credit, as well as Elsa Braganti 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:57.840 and Elisa Elisa. I'm sorry, Elisa Braganti misredded there. She 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.919 died in twenty twenty four. I'm not sure what here 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:06.399 her birthday was. These two were married, both Italian screenwriters. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.040 Sachetti was we've discussed him on the show before because 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.400 he worked with the likes of Lombardo Bava, Luccio Folci, 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:19.159 Dario Dario Argento, an important name in Italian beast cinema. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.359 Just pops up on a number of different films from 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.320 this time period, stuff like House by the Cemetery, City 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.560 of the Living Dead, and Cannibal Apocalypse, all three of 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:29.760 which we've talked about before. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.280 So we've done a good deal of Dardano Sichetti movies 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.000 at the Yeah, yeah, okay. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:40.000 And then yeah and then Elisa, his wife. She also 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.000 has writing or story credits on films like Zombie, House 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.320 by the Cemetery, Hands of Steel, that's another one that've 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.520 covered rat Man and many more. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.400 We haven't done rat Man. We have not done rat 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.160 We did do Hands of Steel, House by the Cemetery. Okay, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.639 so we're in familiar hands here generally as far as 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:58.320 writing goes. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:03.000 Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's talk about this cast. At 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.720 the top. We've already mentioned Mark Gregory playing a man 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.640 called Trash. Mark Gregory lived nineteen sixty four through twenty thirteen, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.640 and here he plays the leader of the writers, our 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.439 long limbed, hunky protagonist, Italian Jim Ratt turned actor who 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.640 became for a few years anyway, one of the most 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.119 recognizable faces in Italian genre action films. This was his 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:31.399 debut and he's understandably green here. But for my money, 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.520 in just the right way for a movie like this. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.000 I've said him before. I don't want my body actors, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.879 you know, guys coming in fresh off the gym for 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.679 their first starring role. I don't want those guys to 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:47.159 have like natural theatrical charisma. I prefer them to be 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.800 a little awkward, a little green on the screen, like 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.040 that's the secret sauce. 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.520 As far as I'm concerned, you could argue that sometimes 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.240 Arnold Schwarzenegger has a little too much confidence in charisma 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.840 on screen, and you you know, it plays well in 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.360 certain roles, but sometimes you want your muscle man yeah 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.199 to be a little lost, to be like he's like, 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.040 what is my heart for? Yeah? 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:13.600 Like I mentioned it before, The Barbarian Brothers I too 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.280 charismatic in all the wrong ways. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:15.520 For me. 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.080 I was just like, these guys are too self confident 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.919 in front of the camera. I don't like it. But 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.720 give me Mark Gregory any day, because he does look 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.240 lost half the time. But I wouldn't change a thing here. 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.840 So Bronx Warriors was eighty two. He followed it up 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.919 with eighty three's Adam and Eve, a Biblical Odyssey, and 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.360 then the Bronx Warriors direct sequel, Escape from the Bronx, 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.000 which again does not have a great cast, or not 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.000 as great a cast as this one, though Henry Silva 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.280 is in it. And then comes a trio of Thunder 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.320 movies in which Gregory plays the title character Thunder, opposite 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.040 Bose Benson in the first two movies and then opposite 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:57.240 John Philip Law in the third. Oh Diabolic, Yeah, diabolic, 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:01.160 indeed so. And those Thunder movies are eighty three, eighty seven, 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.880 and eighty eight, And then he also did Delta Force 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:08.920 Commando in eighty seven, this time opposite vote both Fred 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.680 Williamson and Bos Vincent, and then eighty eight's Final Mission, 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.920 And then there's also eighty nine's Afghanistan The Last War Bus. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.640 This would be his last film. It co starred John 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:25.520 Vernon for unknown reasons. At this point, Mark Gregory ends 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.879 up giving up acting and becomes a painter, and I 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.000 think just basically does not live a pub public life 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:32.479 after that. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.040 I don't know why, but I often find that kind 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.159 of happy when I somebody just like they have an 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.159 arc and then they're like, Okay, I'm not acting anymore 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:43.360 and they just go do their own thing. 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.720 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a tendency for 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.199 us to try and look for the tragedy and such things. 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.080 You know, you know, and obviously guess there could be, 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.960 there could be, and you know, live life in general, 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.879 for most people has its ups and downs, and you 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.480 know it's only going to end one way. But you know, yeah, 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.240 a lot of people, for a lot of people, the 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:08.040 acting world, the directing world, whatever, it's just one phase 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.840 in their life and sometimes by their own choosing, they 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:12.000 decide to walk away from it. 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.720 In more power to them. So there are a lot 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.920 of interesting things about Mark Gregory's performance as Trash, the 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.600 head of the biker gang. Here. One thing I want 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.199 to note is that he actually is this character is 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:29.800 the leader of the writers. He's their King, but he's 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:34.639 also clearly and by far, the youngest member of the gang. 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.080 All of the other guys in the writers are like 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:40.960 grown men in their thirties or older, but Trash seems 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:44.040 to be like eighteen years old, and he even has 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:48.159 a kind of overt, moody teenager energy. Do you know 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:49.359 what I'm talking about? 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.800 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's one of the things. 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:53.199 I love it. 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.000 Like I'm not given enough credit when I'm say that 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.040 he is green and maybe looks at a little lost. 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.520 I still stand by that he does. But I mean 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.600 he's he's still present on the camera and this awkwardness 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.919 comes through, But so does this sort of you know, 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:09.760 this sort of you know, teenage emo sort of a vibe, 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.480 so that it's there in his physical energy as well. 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.320 And it doesn't help that his co stars and a 0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:17.040 lot of these scenes are first of all, you know, 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.359 like you know, season seasoned or at least semi seasoned 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.960 actors in their their thirties, as well as like actual 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.760 Hell's Angels hired to be the other bikers. So of 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:32.000 course this this this young you know body guy fresh 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.040 out of the gym outside of Rome, is gonna look 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.840 a little different compared to these just you know, road 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.720 roasted Hell's Angels guys who were just rugged as all 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:45.480 get out. Yeah, there's a bit of a physical visual 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:46.160 mismatch there. 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.040 Yeah, it's funny, but it also it's kind of interesting. 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:52.359 It's funny and interesting. I mean there are the funny 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.120 part is like practical questions like how would you actually 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.080 get to be the king of a biker gang if 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:58.720 you're not old enough to buy beer? 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.000 I mean, my, I guess he's he's like Alexander the Great, 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.480 you know, or like one of these child pharaohs from 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.840 throughout history. You know, maybe it was a birthright for trash. 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:12.960 Oh third, I like that. Yeah, we don't know anything 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.840 about the like what came before, but but it does 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.520 create these interesting dynamics, like when he has to fight 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.720 against internal descent, and clearly everybody else in the gang 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.159 both is and seems way more mature than him. But 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.119 also he's the like muscliest guy in the gang, So 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.000 he's younger than everybody else, but he's also like bigger 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.959 and buffer than everybody else. I don't know. Yeah, so 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.919 and yeah, it's him squaring off against these like older, 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.600 kind of grizzled character actors, and then just like literal 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.560 actual Hell's Angels, people who look like they may have 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.280 been dealing drugs on the side while shooting the movie. 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.720 Yeah, Gregory too, he has a very unique physique. So 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.520 there's a there's a muscle guy that is supposed to 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.040 be Trash in the poster art for this film, and 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.760 Trash does no, don't really look that much like him. Again, 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.920 Trash is really really muscular, but he's also really lanky 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.120 in a way, so he's like very long limbed, which 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.960 I think also makes him look taller than he actually 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.280 is compared to the other actors. So there is he 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.879 does stand out, you know, stands out from the crowd 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.919 for sure. But yeah, a very unique physical specimen to 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:22.320 be sure. 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.480 Yeah, and very like long hair that they love to 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.600 frame blowing in the wind. Oh yeah. 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.400 So he has kind of a glam rock vibe as well, Yes, 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:42.159 so yeah, and he looks like a barbarian to be clear. Yeah, 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:45.960 So that's Mark Gregory. We'll have more to say about 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.040 this performance as we proceed, but we've got a number 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:54.120 of other weirdly named characters to get through here. I'm 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.159 going I think I'm going in billing order here. But 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.399 I have some questions about how necessary this next character 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.760 is because we have Christopher Connolly, who of nineteen forty 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:07.200 one through nineteen eighty eight, playing a man called hot Dog. 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.200 Hot Dog is his name, and he has a truck. 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.879 Yeah. I just realized, I've watched the movie twice now 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.280 and I don't remember what happens to hot Dog in 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:16.720 the end. 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:21.080 He has a truck. He knows about gizmo's and I 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:21.800 believe he is. 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.000 Shot doesn't He doesn't know about gizzez. 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.399 He doesn't know about gizmos. Okay, does purpose here? 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.440 They people try to corner him and be like, hey, 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.639 you're the ones who's dealing these gizmos. He's like, I 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:33.960 don't even know what a gizmo is. 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.359 Yeah, So I guess the main thing is he has 0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.280 a truck. And it's weird because I like this actor, 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.640 you know, I'm like, this guy seems interesting. I kind 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.439 of want to see him in other movies, but I 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:51.720 really don't know what purpose he has here. Christopher Connolly 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.520 was an American actor. His credits go back to sixty 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.639 two TV appearances on things like The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.480 A Big A main role on the primetime soap opera 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:05.560 Payton Place, and then he appears in the seventy four 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:10.679 film Bingi, the seventy eight film The Norseman from Charles B. Pierce, Oh, 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.200 a Viking movie. 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.720 But Charles B. Pierce, the director of Legend of Boggy Creek, 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.120 exactly made a Viking movie. They did. 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.399 And he continued to work in TV, but in the 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.520 nineteen eighties he was doing a lot of Italian B 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.520 cinema as well. So he pops up in Manhattan Baby 0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:30.119 from Fulchi eighty three's Atlantis Interceptors eighty six is The 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.080 Minds of Kilimanjaro. Eighty six is Cobra Mission eighty eight 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.000 to nine of the Sharks, And I believe that was 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.200 his final film. And yeah, he did a lot of work, 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.640 and I kind of I kind of want to see 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.080 him in a film that where he has more purpose 0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.200 because he doesn't really have much. He has stuff to do, 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:48.640 but he, like I said, you could cut him out 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:49.680 and you wouldn't miss him at all. 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.159 Yeah, I don't recall if his character does anything. The 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:58.639 main plot function he has is he connects hammer to ice. Yeah, 0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.720 both characters we have explained yet. 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.120 Yeah, but he connects the dots he sets to hear 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.840 why to see on the screen, just to confuse with 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.720 other characters, I guess, because the other ones we're about 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.240 to name have far more crucial roles in the picture, 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.600 beginning with Fred Williamson born nineteen thirty eight playing a 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:17.560 man called Ogre. 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.399 I love Fred Williamson in this. One of my only 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.600 complaints about the movie is that I wish there was 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.240 more Fred Williamson in it. Every scene with him is 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.040 a treat. He's one of these guys where you can 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:33.119 just feel how much he loves being in movies, you 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.800 know what I mean. Yeah, Like he's obviously having a 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.480 great time dressed up in this purple pirate shirt decapitating 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.280 mutants in the sewer. It's like this is the life, 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:47.440 and the feeling is infectious. The other thought I have 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:51.920 about this character is that it makes no sense whatsoever 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.880 that this character is named the Ogre. Unless it's supposed 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.200 to be an ironic title. He's not in the least 0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.640 bit ogre. Like, what are the characteristics of somebody called Ogre? 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:08.080 It would be somebody who's like a big, strong, stupid, clumsy, 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.840 brutish And this character is the exact opposite. He is 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:17.040 like suave, clever, and deft. He's literally the opposite of ogreishness. 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.800 Yeah, I'm not sure who you would really trade names 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.640 because he doesn't feel like a hot dog either. 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:26.080 Yeah. I guess he's tall, so he fits big right. 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.640 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, he's tall. So yeah, Fred Williams and 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.520 I agree, pretty terrific in this he plays the leader 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.240 of the Tigers and the self proclaimed king of the Bronx. 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.560 So Fred Williamson is I think any football fans listening 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.640 here today. American football fans know that he was a 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.120 professional player in the nineteen sixties, and then as that 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.720 career comes to an end, he turns to film, and 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:55.760 so he becomes a major blaxploitation figure in blaxploitation cinema 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.040 and then an international action leading man in the seventies 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.640 and eighties. He took a special shine to Rome apparently 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.719 in some of these productions, and ended up living and 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.760 working there for a good two decades. And I've read 0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.640 that apparently learned to speak fluent Italian in the process, 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.520 which I guess will not be surprising. Maybe you're spending 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.080 that much time there. His TV credits go back to 0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.239 the late sixties again when his football career was finishing up. 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.880 He appears in one episode of the original Star Trek, 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.600 and he made his film debut in Robert Altman's nineteen 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:32.400 seventy hit Mash, followed by Auto Preminger's nineteen seventy film 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.920 Tell Me That You Love Me Juny Moon. But then 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.800 after that, from about seventy two through seventy five or 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.000 seventy six, just a whole series of black exploitation films, 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.840 generally during what is considered to be like the heyday 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.280 of this particular subgenre. He was like one of the 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.400 major stars towards the end of that. That's when he 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.480 started working in a lot of these Italian productions, and 0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.959 his credits from this time Imperio include Warriors of the 0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.920 Lost World, Warriors of the Wasteland, Larriors of the Year 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.680 twenty seventy two, that's the full Chief film. And this 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:08.160 work continued till about about nineteen ninety one. I don't 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:12.200 know all told how many post apocalyptic barbarian warlords he played, 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:13.640 but at least three. 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:18.280 I think, Well he's great at it. I mean he 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.760 was born for it. Just YEA love him. 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.440 Yeah, So he continued to act, appeared in such films 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.680 as ninety six Is from Dust Till Dawn is a 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.000 memorable role in that gets turned into a vampire like 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.160 pretty much everybody in that movie, and various lower budget 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.760 films as well. He's also produced and directed more than 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.920 twenty films, and I believe is still active. I think 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.080 he still has a film that is set to come 0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:43.480 out at some point that he's in and directs. Oh wow, yeah, 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.280 still going all right, So that's ogre. Now let's come 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.960 back to the one they call Hammer. He even says 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.719 at one point, I'm the one they call hammer. And 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.720 this is this character is played by Vic Morrow. 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.200 This character fits his name a little better. Yeah. Yeah. 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:05.120 Weirdly enough, I've read that Fred Williamson's nickname in football 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:11.440 especially was Hammer, so technically Fred fred Williamson is the Hammer. Again, 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.080 there's this weird feeling that, like the names here are 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:18.600 all scrambled and reassigned. I don't know, but that's an 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.120 exercise to play later with, like pen and paper. So anyway, 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.240 Vic Morrow lived nineteen twenty nine through nineteen eighty two 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.040 and was, I should note, a legit child of the Bronx. 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.600 So you know he's he is of the Bronx. 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.360 That's part of the character in the movie. Everybody keeps 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.760 mentioning he's from the Bronx. He knows the Bronx. 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.280 Yeah, he's Yeah, there's a there's actually a really great 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:44.360 exchange where I forget who he's talking to. But they're like, 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.720 you're trying to maybe he's talking to Trash where Trash 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.959 likes you want people to forget that you came from 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.400 the Bronx. And he's like, no, I want them to 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.080 never forget I came from the Bronx. 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.200 Yeah, pretty, which is why I'm going to destroy the Bronx. Yeah, 0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.600 so everyone will know I came from here. Yeah. 0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.000 I mean, and at this point there's you know, there's 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.320 what forty percent of the Bronx left, so it's it's 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.280 pretty good even less because this is the future, right, Yeah, 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:09.800 extrapolation of that time. Anyway, Vic Morrow, we've talked about 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.920 him before on the show because he was in Message 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:12.480 from Space. 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.440 Oh that's right, he's the one who he's talking to 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.719 the little R two D two robot in that and 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.200 he's like the stars or where dreams are made, little guy. 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was always great he was. He 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.840 was also in the last Chart from eighty one, the 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:33.000 other Castellari film, When, which is a pretty much a 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.040 blatant Jaws rip off as I remember it, maybe it's 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.040 a little more nuanced than that, if I were to 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.000 get into it. But as I recall, Vic Morro basically 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:42.280 plays the Quinn character. 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.960 Oh, that's good casting. It is good casting. Who what 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.800 you know, next? Actor on the wrong down? Who do 0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:53.360 you want to be? A Robert Shaw? I'd say Vic Morrow? Yeah, Yeah, 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:54.000 he was really good. 0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.320 He was nominated for an Emmy in nineteen eighty three 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.720 for his work on the TV series Combat exclamation Point 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:05.120 and yeah, I don't believe we hear his actual voice 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.080 in this film, so I don't think he came back 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.680 to do his own dubbing, because he, of course died 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.279 during the production of nineteen eighty three's Twilight Zone the 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:19.200 movie in a terrible accident. But that being said, he's 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.640 great in this. He's really terrificness. Even if this isn't 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.920 his own voice, it's still a terrific physical performance. You 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.600 mentioned that he's kind of the snake Pliskin of this film, 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.880 and he is. He's kind of a mashup though of 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:37.200 Snake Pliskin Lee van Cleef's character Hawk, and then also 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.279 maybe a little bit of action of him Bison from 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.520 Street Fighter, you know, especially in the latter portion of 0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.600 the picture, because in the first half he's like an 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.680 independent contractor, bounty hunter, is sort of a guy, but 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:53.120 then by the end he is like an establishment uniform 0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.160 dude leading a squad of like a death squad into 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:56.720 the Bronx. 0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:01.520 You're entirely right. His character completely transform at the beginning, 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.440 He's what if Snake Pliskin was the bad guy? Is 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.440 what he is at the beginning of the movie, and 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.759 then by the end he's just the He's like a 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:14.879 head bad cop of a like mass murdering cop squad. Yeah. 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:14.719 Uh. 0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.560 And so the movie does operate on a number of 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.760 like inversions of characters from these movies that it's copying, 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:26.160 like Escape from New York and The Warriors, Like, so 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.520 he is structurally Snake Pliskin. But if Snake Pliskin was 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.200 the villain and the movie has all these things like that, 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.120 it's like, what if Snake was the villain? What if 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.680 the Duke of New York was actually a pretty cool guy. 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.480 What if Donald Pleasance was a girl. What if the 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.680 gang from the Warriors was in here also that kind 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:45.680 of thing would. 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.120 It'd have been great if they'd cast I don't know 0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.360 how old they were at the time, but Donald Pleasance 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.000 has like two or three daughters who acted at one 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:53.640 point or another, and I think maybe one of them 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.040 still does act, Like that would have been perfect. Well. 0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.880 I like how they still keep something even though like 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.080 he has to be read and escape from New York 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.479 because he's the president of the United States. In this movie, 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.239 it's a bit mixed up because it's half like kind 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.160 of ransom film, like she's the daughter of a rich, 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.480 powerful person, but also they keep a little bit of 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.880 like she's actually personally important because it's like, oh, no, 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.560 she's the heir of this corporation and we'll have to 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:20.800 become the president. 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:25.160 Hmmm. Yeah, Well, let's talk a little about Anna because 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.560 it is. The actual details about the actress here kind 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.000 of line up with this in interesting ways because this 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:38.719 character is played by Stephania Girolami Goodwin born nineteen sixty three. 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.520 She's also the assistant director on this picture because she 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:43.840 is the director's daughter. 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.560 Yeah, the actress is really Inzo Castellari's daughter. 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.600 Correct, Yeah, this Zenzo's daughter. She'd been in several of 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.359 his films by this point, and she'd act in three more, 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.680 including Warriors of the Wasteland and Sinnett of the Seven Seas. 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.839 She was assistant director on this film, again, a role 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.040 that she would continue to serve in various productions, and 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.440 also productions that did not involve her father at all, 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.120 Like she basically kept going with the directing, even the 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:14.440 assistant directing, especially even though she she's left acting behind. 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.520 But she was an assistant director on nineteen ninety three 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.919 Super Mario Brothers, which we've talked about on the show. 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:25.399 I would maintain still the weirdest movie we have ever done. Weird, 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:26.000 pretty weird. 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.480 Yeah, ninety five's Empire Records, which I think I've seen. 0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.920 It's definitely not a weird movie. 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.880 No, it's like, you know, kind of fun romance, drama, 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.600 comedy and you know, employees at a record store. 0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.920 Yeah, yeah, fun, as I recall. And then she also 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:46.040 directed some various Italian TV shows as well. 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.600 Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, she's playing the character Anne in 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:55.480 this and is we think Fisher's daughter or some other 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.040 guy off screen that we never see's daughter, but right, 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:02.640 she's important. She leaves behind the Arms Corporation to run 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:06.480 to the Bronx become become I guess just blend in 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.680 and live there is her plan. And then they're gonna 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.080 they're gonna send Vic Morrow to I guess rescue her. 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:14.480 But all he does is kill people. 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the mission gets a little foggy after 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.240 a pit here. All right, you mentioned Fisher. Samuel Fisher 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.920 may or may not be her father, looks kind of 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:28.040 like Ted Turner, played by an actor by the name 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:31.720 of Eneo Girolami who lived nineteen thirty five through twenty thirteen. 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.680 Italian actor with a familiar face in various productions like this, 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:41.360 various works by Zo and he also appears in Dario 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.000 Argento's Tenebra. So he's he's a familiar face if you 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:46.920 watch a lot of Italian genre pictures. 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.319 Maybe that's what I know him from. I expected him 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.120 to be I don't know, a more familiar actor, because 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.440 he looked very familiar. I felt like I've spent a 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.080 lot of time looking at his face before, but he 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:58.239 didn't really stand out. 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.600 I think he often doesn't have the must sash, and 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.319 that might be the reason. I think he's a little 0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.000 more memorable without the mustache. 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.560 Do you think they were intentionally trying to make him 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.279 up to look like Ted Turner? Because I had the 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.120 same thought. He looks like Ted Turner. He's got like 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.600 a blonde comb over and a blonde mustache. 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.759 I mean it would make sense, right, you're just sort 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.399 of cobbling things together, like if you're gonna you're gonna 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.440 pick somebody, you know, some sort of like a rich 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:21.320 American figure. 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:21.600 There. 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.200 They're only like a handful of choices that have that 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.960 kind of like international notoriety. And if so umgla they 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.400 went with this one, it would have been different if 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:30.560 they come with the other one. 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.279 Yeah, but but I think Ted Turner also had recently 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.160 become more famous, like around the time this movie was made, 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.600 Like didn't he think he founded CNN in the very 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.200 early eighties, like eighty or eighty one something like that. 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.520 Yeah, yeah, so that that would make sense it again, 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.800 does it just feels like he's supposed to be Ted Turner? 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.359 All right, let's get let's get out of Manhattan though 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.200 and back into the Bronx, and let's talk about the 0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.160 leader of the what's see which faction is this? The 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:02.400 zombies the leader of the roller skate faction man, not 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.000 the zombie faction. Not the zombie faction. Wait, but there 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.400 are the zombies, but they're not actual zombies. These are 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:09.240 the roller skaters. 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.280 These are the non zombies that are called zombies. Yeah. 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.279 Their leader is a man named Golam and he is 0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:19.960 played by George Eastman. George Eastman, who have nineteen forty 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.960 two through twenty twenty six Italian B movie legend, who 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.600 sadly passed away May of this year. So this is 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.040 our first George Eastman film that we've discussed since his passing. 0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.240 Well, we've done several George Eastman movies on here. Before 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.839 we did Absurd, he was in Hands of Steel. Let's 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.600 see what else have we done with him? I know 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:40.080 at least a few other things. 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.160 This may be only the third George Eastman picture that 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.840 we've covered, But anytime I see him attached to something, 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.160 he comes up a lot because he's just he's everywhere. 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:54.200 The personable George Eastman. Yeah. So, if you haven't heard 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.640 our episode on this or seen the movie, Absurd is 0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:02.239 pretty interesting because it's an Italian copy of Halloween. John 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:06.920 Carpenter's Halloween, but the killer instead of Michael Myers behind 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.080 a mask, it's just George Eastman with no mask. That's 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:10.840 just his face. 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.560 Yeah, he had a great face, a towering beast of 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.640 a man, you know, often had this big beard, has 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:24.080 capable of just displaying this extremely loopine grin. So yeah, tremendous. 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.560 He was also a screenwriter. He got into doing that 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.040 because I'm to understand, like he would be working on 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.160 these pictures with just terrible scripts, and he was like, well, 0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.120 I get let me give it a go. I can 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.480 improve on this, and so kind of got into writing 0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.239 scripts for B films that way. But yeah, he had 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.279 quite a run. I mean, he's in films ultimately from 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:47.440 directors that range as greatly from like Joe Tomato to Fellini, 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.280 but surely best remembered for these various roles as towering, glaring, 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.400 snarling heavies, often in a post apocalyptic scenario or in 0:41:56.440 --> 0:42:01.920 some sort of a Jallo or like Slasher Gorse. Here 0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.240 his look is very interesting because he's often pretty gruff looking, 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.040 you know, and sometimes actual guts dripping from his mouth. 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:13.840 Here he has again that American gladiator samurai roller skater vibe. 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.800 So he's actually pretty polished looking in this picture. 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.080 This is the least threatening he has ever looked in 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.399 a movie to my mind. I mean, I don't mean 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:27.279 to insult Eastman in this way, but he's one of 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:30.000 those people who he just has a face and a 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:34.160 smile that on itself, with no makeup or modification, can 0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:38.160 look dangerous and obscene. Yes, yes, yeah it was. This 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.240 was his natural gift. 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.680 Yeah, and he again he towers over I forget how 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.000 tall this guy was, but he was. He was really tall, 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:49.879 something like six' nine maybe you know who knows how 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.719 tall that is in movies. Speak that's like being like 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.359 seven to five in. Movies so, yeah he tended to 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.560 tower over anybody he was acting, opposite which just added 0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.160 to the effect he, was you, know like a lot 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:03.200 of the great character ackers and heavies and, pictures you 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.120 don't have to pay for special effects when you cast 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:05.680 somebody like. 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.879 This he has a great fight scene With Fred williamson later, 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.600 on Where Fred williamson really sticks it to. 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:16.439 Him yeah all. Right, next we have a man Called. 0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:20.960 Ice ice is played By Joshua sinclair born nineteen fifty 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.440 three and man if everything out there on this guy, 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.319 is to be, believed pretty interesting, guy and if it's 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.839 not to be, believed still pretty interesting that there would 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.560 be all this stuff made up about. Him BUT i 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.600 have no reason to really doubt any of. This But 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.680 american actor who found work In italian cinema in the early, 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.040 seventies including, parts at least small, parts and stuff like 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:44.480 seventy One's Lady, Frankenstein keoma in seventy six and then 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:48.319 the string of films of These enzo, Films but he 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.000 had also been writing. Screenplays he co wrote the screenplay 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.560 to nineteen seventy Eights just A, jigglow Starring David bowie 0:43:56.239 --> 0:44:01.000 And Marlena. Dietrix we've mentioned that on the, show having covered. 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.759 It he wrote the nineteen eighty five Novel, shakazulu which 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.240 was made into A tv mini series in eighty, six 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.560 and then continued to work as a writer and producer 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:14.920 while also allegedly earning a medical degree in the eighties 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.520 to work in tropical diseases and then he also wrote 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.560 and directed twenty EIGHTEEN'S A rose In winter and is 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:26.800 also reportedly a professor in, filmmaking comparative, theology and biblical 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:32.399 anthropology at least according to some internet. Bios SO i don't, 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.680 know maybe it's all. True i'll just assume it's all. 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.719 True an honor system here for striting these bios ON 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:45.520 IMDb is on the. Level but, yeah he plays an interesting. 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.239 Character it turns out to be a bit, traitorous, surprising you, 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.640 know keivin that he's the one wearing the Most nazi 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.280 uniform bits on his biker uniform. 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.520 Here, YEAH i couldn't believe that the guy in THE 0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:00.359 ss jacket turns out to be not. 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:05.760 Trustworthy, yeah, yeah He's, yeah He's he's a worming. Character 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.000 he's got these glasses that kind of add to the. 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.680 EFFECT i should also mention there's a scene where you 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.359 had to have noticed. This he and another biker are 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.040 like riding down the street slash, sidewalk and they're about 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.919 to go around a. Corner he just absolutely wipes, out 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.120 and it's, never, yeah never. Acknowledged it's not like the 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:26.680 next scene is, like, oh, man are you all? Right 0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.879 you really took a spillback, there or you'd think, like oh, 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.200 no the mutants got. Him, no, no apparently he just 0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.960 like legitimately wiped out and then they just kept it 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:36.799 in the, movie they're, like that's too, good it serves no, 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:37.719 purpose but we'll keep. 0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:40.600 It. Wow, uh, WELL i like that they made that. 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:44.000 Choice no offense to him, personally but he has great 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:48.160 like scheming backstabb or. Energy he is born to play this, 0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.800 role it seems. Like BUT i guess, also you don't 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.680 know from the very beginning that he's going to do. That, 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.440 though as we were saying, that The nazi jacket kind 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.680 of gives it, away THOUGH i did want to come 0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:02.920 back and discuss the kind of complicated context of the, 0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.800 jacket which is that he's not the only gang member 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:11.160 Wearing nazi. Insignia, however we don't see in the movie 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.000 any indication, that like the people wearing this stuff in the, 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:20.120 gangs Including, hans are actually supposed to be Ideological. Nazis 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.160 this kind of choice really really does not scan well. 0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.520 Today but this was part of a trend in some 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:32.560 like seventies and eighties subcultures of Using nazi imagery as 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:39.120 like generically, wacky transgressive kitch that was supposedly not connected 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.279 to the real meaning Of. NAZISM i don't think this 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.560 framing really, Works LIKE i don't think you could put 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.719 On nazi stuff today and say, like, NO i don't 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.040 really mean, it it's, just you, know it's just wacky. 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.600 Whatever because even if it doesn't mean anything to, you 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.040 the person wearing, it it's going to mean something to 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.680 basically everybody who sees, you and that something is like 0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.640 very threatening and very. Stupid so it is not a 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.480 cool style choice in. Reality BUT i think that is 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.640 what's going on in the. Movie it's part of this 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:09.160 like seventies eighties thing Where nazi kitsch was just supposed 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:13.719 to be a, weird non conforming stylistic middle. Finger. 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.120 Yeah, YEAH i think the middle finger part is. Key 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:19.839 and if you watch enough biker films from this, era 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:21.640 you do see a lot of this sort of. Thing 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:26.000 Like i'm reminded of nineteen sixty Six's Wild, angels an 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.920 outlaw biker film that Has Peter fonda And Bruce dern in, 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.040 it and there's a scene WHERE i Believe Bruce dern's 0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.440 character has died and they drape A nazi flag over 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.960 his casket and they have a funeral stuff like. That it's, just, 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:42.239 yeah it's it's it's a part of the subculture and 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.239 then part of the cinematic. Subculture that we get through 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:45.919 these through these. 0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:46.320 Movies. 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:51.120 Yeah, well, oh here's another interesting cast. Member we also 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.279 there are some women in the, gangs or at least 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:54.440 one of The. 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.600 Tigers, yeah, yeah and The, tigers there's there are some 0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.600 women in the writers. Too they're not any of the 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:01.759 main writers who like go on the, missions but there 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:03.200 are a couple of who hang out there with the 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:04.239 gang at the het. Out. 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.120 Yeah but there's a more capable seeming member of The 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:11.520 tigers by the name Of, witch and she is played BY. 0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:16.160 Elizabetha dessi born nineteen fifty. Seven as we see, her 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.239 she's pretty. Cool she's got these like knife fingers that she. 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:22.960 Wears she's apparently second in command To, ogre so she's 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:28.280 pretty highly. Ranked this Is desi's only film, role alongside 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.920 of a couple OF i believe like music video. Appearances 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.840 but she's An italian model and Former olympic swimmer in 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.000 the nineteen seventy Six Summer. Olympics and she is still 0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.520 active as a model today in her late. Sixties i've 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:43.560 seen her described as a pro aging model and so 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.400 like still like a major, force like you, know major 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.880 magazine publications and fashion designers and. Stuff so you can 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:53.000 look look her. Up she's On instagram and everything pretty. 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.319 Neat story pro aging is in like she advocates what 0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.520 they might call it natural, aging and yeah, Modeling. 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.040 Yeah that's my under. Standing YEAH i, AGAIN i. HAVEN'T 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:05.680 i wasn't familiar with her before rewatching this. Picture but, 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.799 yeah she's you, know on the cover of magazines like 0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:09.440 l and so. 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.960 Forth she had a cool look in the. Movie she 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:14.440 still has a very cool look. Today she doesn't have 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.880 the ninth fingers. Anymore, no she should wear those all the. 0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.920 Time BUT i really like her in this. Movie she 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.359 has great like she hits poses in the movie very 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:24.560 much like somebody who's used to being a, model like 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:28.880 hitting poses for fashion shoots and. Stuff but she has great, 0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:32.880 Style like she cracks the whip with such Dashing she 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:36.480 has the whip and the talon fingers and, yeah great 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.160 she goes to fight the. MUTANTS i like. 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:42.160 HER i mentioned that The Hell's angels are in this, 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:46.360 picture at least in the outside scenes actually shot in The. 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:48.719 BRONX i don't think they flew The Hell's angels over To. 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.520 Roam but this also means That Chuck zito is in there, 0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.319 somewhere if you're familiar with some of these biker, characters 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:55.960 he's one of the. 0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:59.640 Bikers there are at least two different guys in the 0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.439 ride is who both look Like Steve. 0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:05.200 Earl, yeah, yeah, yeah that's. TRUE i mean it's a 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.839 weathered looking group of extras they have. 0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.279 HERE i mean more Like Steve earl, now Not steve 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:11.319 curl in nineteen eighty. 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.239 Two, yeah all. Right and, finally the music here is 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:19.400 By Walter. Rizzotti his other scores include eighty One's The 0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:21.600 house by The, cemetery so we have mentioned him. Before 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.000 he also did a variety of action, films Including thunder. 0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:30.120 TWO i don't know what his life dates, are but 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.600 he was active from sixty six through at least nineteen ninety. 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:36.560 Three and on the, WHOLE i thought it was an 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:41.319 enjoyable score, here generically jazzy in, places BUT i, think 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.360 for my money, anyway a lot more fun in its weirder, 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.320 moments mainly in the mutant tunnels and the end credit 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:48.360 music is also pretty. 0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.080 Great, YEAH i like the music pretty. Good in, FACT 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.759 i would say one of my favorite music moments in 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.839 it is one of the generically jazzy. Parts it's when 0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.080 the iron men show up and every time they're on, 0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:01.600 screen it just starts playing But doo do Doo LIKE. 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:09.000 I do love, jazzy funky debts in These italian. SCORES i, 0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:10.200 mean it's one of the things that makes them so. 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.680 Great at, times it's like you have, something you, know 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:15.480 it's like some sort of gallo picture zombies or, whatnot 0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:16.720 and you get to hear that thumping. 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:28.400 Bass it's pretty. Great, Yeah, okay you want to talk 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.680 about the, plot let's do. It so immediately from the, 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:34.000 credits you know this movie is gonna have. Guts it 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:38.719 has really strong bold credits. Sequence the, MUSIC i would, 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.359 say is one Part John Carpenter escape From New york, 0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:46.120 soundtrack one Part italian disco. Funk the credits play over 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:50.880 close up shots of weird bits of costume and texture 0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.880 from the. Movie so we see a clinched fist with 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.839 four different skull, rings like a different skull on each. 0:51:56.920 --> 0:52:00.480 Knuckle we see half of a face with a, sad 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:05.320 downcast eye surrounded by a violet wing like shape marked 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.440 in face. Paint we see a roller skate with green 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.560 wheels just spinning in the air against. 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:14.440 Nothing we should mention that this picking this movie came 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:16.279 out of your desire to do some sort of a 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.160 rollerblading or roller skating, picture. 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.400 So we got here. Obliquely there are actually a bunch 0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.640 of post apocalyptic roller blades centric, movies AND i was 0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.759 like looking through them and just like one after, another 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:30.960 like there's no way to watch, this there's no way 0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.160 to get this. Thing, oh this one's. Disgusting so like 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.080 one after another just kind of fell. Through but THEN 0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:39.839 i landed on this And i'm so GLAD i. DID 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.279 i think this movie was more fun than maybe any 0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:46.200 of the rollerblade MOVIES i was looking. At but, so, 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:48.600 yeah we do have some roller skating in this. Movie the, 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:50.080 zombies the Roller Hockey. 0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.959 Gang they spoiler they don't Get GEORGE. E span on roller. 0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:55.560 SKATES i don't know if they and he's, LIKE i 0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:57.839 can't do, That Like i'll just fall down and it's 0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.920 not in my. Contract, yeah like heads too high up 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.359 there for that fall to take. Place it would have. 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:06.120 DONE i, meant but prominent roller skate wheel in the, 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:09.080 credits it's just spinning in the. Air we also see 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:12.880 a leather elbow pad mounted with a steel. Spike people 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.520 will die in the movie by that. Spike we see 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.040 a hand in finger gloves holding a knife with a 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:22.680 brass knuckle, handle a silver spike with, studs a hand 0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.920 wearing rings with attachable steel. Talons these are the weapons 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:30.200 of the Character, witch who will meet. LATER a Rosa 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.360 kleb style boot with a knife blade sticking out of the, 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:37.279 toe a sort of a lady's, haunch showing off some 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.160 black leather and garter. STRAPS i think this is probably 0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:45.080 Also witch. Again and then like faces painted with, feathers metallic, 0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:46.800 flames and psychedelic punk. 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.560 Butterflies, YEAH i think that those are maybe details from 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:53.879 The Iron men there with The broadway. Faction so, YEAH 0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:57.680 i love this intro, here this movie suiting up like 0:53:57.719 --> 0:53:59.840 it's about to commit a jalloh crime, here you, know 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:04.520 like the strong fetishizing of the weapons in this. 0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:08.520 Sequence the spike club could really be in An argento. 0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.719 Movie somebody randomly shows up with that, thing doesn't even 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:17.160 explain what it, is it's just. So the action opens 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:21.239 in deep blue twilight with a young woman sprinting desperately 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:24.080 across a. Bridge we will learn that this Is, anne 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.279 one of our, protagonists and she is running away from 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.600 her wealthy life In manhattan to go to the lawless 0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:34.760 hell the of The bronx. IMMEDIATELY a couple of. Issues 0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:36.840 one is THAT i thought her outfit was kind of 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.920 funny because she's wearing like a frilly white blouse with a, 0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:43.360 tall lacy. Collar she doesn't really seem like running away 0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:46.120 from my life on foot. Clothing, also she's wearing boots with. 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.040 Heels, Yeah, like did she even pack a? Back maybe 0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:49.840 she's lost it at this. 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:53.520 Point it could Be, ALSO i want to flag HERE 0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:56.920 i said something about this, earlier but the movie will 0:54:57.000 --> 0:55:00.960 keep raising geographical questions in this. SCENE i could be 0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.239 wrong Because i'm not an expert On New, york but 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.840 it looks to me like she's running out over The 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.520 East river headed Into. Brooklyn and you definitely don't go 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:11.920 that way From manhattan to get to The. Bronx that's 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:15.680 basically the opposite. Direction SO i think the only water 0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:18.120 you'd have to cross to get From manhattan to The 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.960 bronx is The Harlem, River, right you go Up manhattan 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:24.239 and then across The Harlem river and then you're into The. 0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:25.760 Bronx and is that sounds? 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.319 Right but, again it's one of those things THAT i 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:32.200 have this experience as a visitor To New, york AND 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.320 i think maybe the filmmakers had this exact same. Situation 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.160 is when you're taking the, subway it does feel like. 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:42.080 Magic it feels like you're emerging in different fairy, realms you, 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:44.759 know like Now i'm in The bronx by virtue of 0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:48.239 the iron worm that crawls through the. Earth so you 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:52.440 can lose, track especially now now more than, ever you 0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:58.040 can depend on devices to help. You but, yeah the 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.600 geography questions remain regarding this picture for. 0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:02.600 Sure, well in a, Way i'll just SAY i think 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.319 it is like. MAGIC i, mean a city with a 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:09.440 great public transportation system that can get you most anywhere 0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:13.000 is a, beautiful wonderful, thing especially having lived in places 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:17.320 without as fully developed public transit. Systems, Man, yeah Visiting 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:18.600 New york and using the subways. 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:20.920 AWESOME i want to go ahead and flag here we 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:24.200 mentioned about what The bronx was like when this film was. 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:27.040 Made The bronx is totally different. Now so do not 0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:30.239 base anything in this. Film assume that anything in this 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:32.880 film represents the current state of. Things The bronx has 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.839 come a long way since. Then it has some rather 0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:38.319 lovely places to. Visit you will not find the same 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:39.239 world if you go there. 0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:44.360 Today so we cut from the escape on the bridge 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:48.160 to an executive office suite where this guy who earlier 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.720 we were, saying we're going to assume this Is anne's, 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:55.959 Father Samuel. Fisher maybe at least ten to fifteen percent 0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:59.120 chance it's not actually her, father because there is a 0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:01.839 scene later where it's like somebody on the phone is 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:04.960 chewing him, out saying he needs to find, her and 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.560 she doesn't make sense if she's his. Daughter but in 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:09.759 every other scene it acts like she's his, Daughter SO 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:10.440 i think it's his. 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.640 Daughter, YEAH i get the feeling that maybe a scene 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.040 was cut or something didn't make it over into the. 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:19.000 Dub it's hard to. Say so he's getting the news 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.200 that his daughter has run away from home to become 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:24.560 a crime, queen and he's grilling his. Subordinates this is 0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.800 WHERE i think the guy he's grilling is the director 0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.120 of the. Movie In Zo. Castelari it's, like how could 0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:32.560 she just? Disappear what happened to her security? Detail they 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:35.880 don't know what, happened but she's, gone and her father is, 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:40.000 like damn, it this is all we. Needed, oh sorry 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:44.400 to inconvenience you. Dad. Oh he also, says our hands 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:46.960 are tied until we get her back. Here so this 0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:49.800 is the first hint of something that will develop later that, 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:54.040 like it's not just that her father loves her and 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.200 wants her back in the, family it's that she is 0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:01.320 crucial for some developing piece of. Business And, fisher by the, 0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.840 way is going to be ticked off in every scene he's. 0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:06.800 In he's always just. Mad is like a spit in 0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:10.120 his mustache because he's just. Frothing he's mad that his 0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:13.120 daughter ran. Away this is very bad for business. Reasons 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:14.920 and then he stews for a, minute and then he 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:20.720 gets the bride idea hey Contact hammer and the second 0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.720 the number two guys Like, hammer isn't he a bit? 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:27.800 Risky And fisher shrugs and, says we've got little. Choice 0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:31.240 and then we cut to an intertitle that tells us 0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:34.160 the setup of the. Movie it, says nineteen ninety The 0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:39.280 bronx is officially declared no man's. Land the authorities give 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:42.080 up all attempts to restore law and. Order from then, 0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:44.840 on this area is ruled by the. 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:49.480 Writers AND i kept hearing this as the writers, too 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:51.800 it's listening to, it SO i was like, imagining partially, 0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:54.640 Imagining like what if The Writer's guild Of America east 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:59.240 is running the post Apocalyptic, bronx you, know the note they're, 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:01.200 writing the writing they're not. 0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:04.680 Writing one can only. Imagine BUT i think this is 0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:09.360 also funny because this is not true within the. Story 0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:14.160 aren't The tigers presented as the actual dominant gang in 0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:17.240 The bronx and The writers are sort of a secondary contender. 0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:20.600 Gang, YEAH i, mean maybe things have shift, recently shifted, 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.720 recently and this just doesn't the intel does not reflect 0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:26.120 the current state of play on the. Ground but, yeah 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.680 The tigers are the dominant gang And ogre is the 0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:31.280 self proclaimed king of The. 0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:35.360 Bronx, yeah. Exactly SO i don't know that's. CONFUSING i 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.400 think that literally whoever wrote that maybe was not familiar 0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:40.400 enough with the rest of the plot of the. Movie 0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.320 somewhere in The, bronx we cut back in And anne 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:46.080 is still running as she ran all the way to 0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:48.600 The bronx in these boots with, heels and now she's 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:52.800 running down a, long, empty desolate. Tunnel her footfalls echo 0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.840 in the, night and then we see figures crossing in the. 0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:59.480 Foreground it was, like, oh is it. Vampires is it 0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:03.160 Where we'll, no it's even. Worse it is, zombies not literal, 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:07.680 zombies not the mutant. Zombies this is a street gang 1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:11.240 called The, zombies which are basically again guys who play roller. 1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:15.360 Hockey they've got white, helmets hook shaped hockey, sticks kind 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:19.800 of a military police in hockey pads look roller skates 1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:23.720 and these v shaped shoulder. Pads and The zombies Ambush 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:25.960 anne at the end of this tunnel and corner. Her 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:28.960 she screams and tries to, run but they surround her 1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.080 and they're hooting and yapping and shaking their hockey sticks at. 1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:35.000 Her it seems like maybe they're mistaking her for a. 1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:41.120 Puck but then something. Changes while they're standing, there menacing 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:44.200 her on a dark wall of the tunnel's, edge we, 1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:48.320 see first faintly and then with growing, intensity an illuminated. 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:51.560 Skull what does that, Mean, well it is the calling 1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:55.880 card of another, gang The. Riders so The, riders they're 1:00:55.880 --> 1:01:00.919 on motorcycles and they have bright plastic light up skulls 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:04.720 mounted on the handlebars of their, motorcycles just above the. 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:09.560 HEADLAMP i love this. DETAIL i love the kind of 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:12.240 psychedelic biker. LOOK i, mean we will see this take 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:16.600 into much more extravagant extremes in movies Like. Mandy BUT 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:21.120 i do like cyclomania or. Psychomania, yeah but pushing the 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:25.760 biker esthetic beyond just the, gritty, grimy tough guy look 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:31.280 and into the weird ethereal, otherworldly that's a that's a 1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:32.040 good move in my. 1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:35.000 Book, Yeah riders on the, storm so we're. 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:37.160 Gonna See we're going to see these see this many 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.640 times in the movie that The. Skulls it's spooky and 1:01:39.720 --> 1:01:42.680 cheesy at the same. Time and the gang comes roaring 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:44.800 up on their. Bikes The skulls are glowing and they're 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.320 ready for, action and when the zombies see them they 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.800 call out with. Fear it's, like oh, no The. Riders 1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:52.080 so you get the feeling that The riders are maybe a, 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:56.480 tougher badder gang than the. Zombies the leader of The 1:01:56.560 --> 1:02:00.000 rider pack dismounts his bike and he raises a, weapon 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:02.960 which is a short metal baton tipped at the end 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:05.800 with a. Spike so is this a? Club is this 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.480 a short? Spear it's sort of, both and it is 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:09.640 our hero's signature. 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:14.040 Weapon, yeah lovingly imagined. Here this is a film that 1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:18.720 takes its weapon fetishization pretty. Seriously so these are a 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:19.000 lot of. 1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:23.040 Fun so this Is trash our, hero and he is 1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:26.680 a lot to take. In he's wearing tight blue, jeans 1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:30.840 a black leather vest with a very deep v cut 1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:34.520 going almost down to his belly, button and no shirt, 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:37.360 underneath so his outfit was made to show like seventy 1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:40.760 five percent of his. Chest he has a metal bead 1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:46.000 choker necklace and long feathered glam rock. Hair trash and 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:48.000 several of his buddies get off their bikes and they 1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.680 approach the. Zombies they've got their clubs out and the 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:53.840 zombies are, intimidated but they hold their, ground so a 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:55.640 fight breaks. Out it's a punch up in the. 1:02:55.640 --> 1:02:59.960 Tunnel, yeah and the fight sequence here is pretty. Fun 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:02.960 it's pretty. Wild you would never confuse it For Hong 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:06.240 kong action or anything like. THAT i think the hits 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.400 are not particularly. Snug there's maybe less a sense of 1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:13.920 like connection on these, hits but it's still a lot of. 1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:15.640 Fun it's like it, again it's maybe a little more 1:03:15.720 --> 1:03:18.640 it feels a little more stage, combat but it still 1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:19.280 tells a nice. 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:22.280 STORY i actually liked the fights in this movie pretty. 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:24.760 Good it's not the most technical fight choreography in the, 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:27.160 world like you, said at least until we get To Fred. 1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:29.880 WILLIAMSON i noticed his fighting was extremely. 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:32.360 Crisp, Yeah AND i don't know if that was just 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:36.680 like maybe a tighter, choreography or Like Fred williamson And 1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:39.520 George eastman were just like really slugging each, other because 1:03:39.520 --> 1:03:41.960 that's always a. Possibility you heard that from pro wrestlers 1:03:42.000 --> 1:03:44.560 where they're people are talking about all. Man you, KNOW 1:03:44.600 --> 1:03:47.000 i Admired Terry funk's punches growing, up and THEN i 1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:48.680 got in the ring with him and realized that his 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:50.960 punches look so good because he was just actually punching. 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:54.320 People oh, NO i, mean you, know in a in 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:57.720 an okay way for the time. Period but but, yeah 1:03:57.760 --> 1:03:59.520 it's like one way to make it look good is 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:02.520 to actually. CONNECT i, guess, WELL i hope that's not 1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:05.000 what's going on, There but GENERALLY i think that's not 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:07.400 what you're going for in the in the film. World 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:09.320 BUT i don't, know maybe they worked a little. 1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:11.760 Stuff who. Knows. Well one THING i did like about 1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:15.120 the fights in this movie is that usually you can follow, 1:04:15.240 --> 1:04:18.320 them so they are not the blurry flurry you, know 1:04:18.440 --> 1:04:20.880 like a lot of movies do where the fight scene 1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:24.640 descends into just kind of close ups of limbs, flailing 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:28.480 and you're not getting a sense of moments or. Drama 1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:30.920 these fight scenes do have moments in, drama you have 1:04:30.960 --> 1:04:34.360 a chance to notice which character is, fighting you follow 1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:39.080 little moments in the. Exchange and SO i actually enjoyed 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.480 the fight scenes here a good bit more than your 1:04:41.480 --> 1:04:44.600 average movie punch. Up, ALSO i liked how sometimes the 1:04:44.720 --> 1:04:48.360 characters express their personality in the ways they, Fight like 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:52.600 did you notice That trash is very cocky and, Fearless 1:04:52.720 --> 1:04:55.320 like he kind of he sticks his chest out and 1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:57.560 gives off this energy of LIKE i don't even care 1:04:57.600 --> 1:05:00.439 if you hit. Me you, know death is. EVERYTHING i don't. 1:05:00.480 --> 1:05:03.760 Care whereas the Character, hans the guy in THE ss, 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:07.040 jacket he fights in a way that looks much more 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:09.200 careful and strategic and. 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:13.640 Vicious yeah, yeah he doesn't more vicious. Style that's a good. 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:17.400 Point and in the factions in general also have different fighting, 1:05:17.480 --> 1:05:20.960 vibes LIKE i would say that the zombies have more 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:24.360 of a feeling of like like a war. Cult they 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:28.240 seem like a like a highly, trained organized group of, 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:33.320 combatants whereas you, Know trashes bunch the, riders they are 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:39.000 more and they're more like individualistic, fightings individualistic, fighters they're 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:42.200 more LIKE i guess warriors versus soldiers to make that, 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:43.920 distinction whereas the zombies are more. 1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:48.440 Soldiers, YEAH i think that's. Right. Yeah so at one 1:05:48.480 --> 1:05:50.760 point in this, fight the zombies are mostly, beaten and 1:05:50.760 --> 1:05:52.640 then a few of them start running, away and then 1:05:52.680 --> 1:05:55.400 one of the riders gets on his bike chases them. 1:05:55.440 --> 1:05:58.560 DOWN i think this is the writer Named, blade and 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:02.360 at the last minute he extends These James bond murder 1:06:02.400 --> 1:06:05.640 gadgets on his, bike so there are these horizontal knives 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:08.520 that stick out the side of the, motorcycle and he 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:12.040 rides between the zombies and first slashes their achilles, tendons 1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:15.040 and then he rides back the other way after they 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:16.880 fall and slashes their. Throat it's pretty. 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.160 BRUTAL i want to say one more thing about the 1:06:19.200 --> 1:06:21.919 action here THAT i think sets it apart from other 1:06:21.960 --> 1:06:25.200 films you might, see or certainly lesser. Films so there's 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:30.760 sometimes you'll have even good fight, choreography but the director 1:06:30.880 --> 1:06:34.120 will just shoot everything like wide and just like let 1:06:34.120 --> 1:06:37.920 the fight play. Out whereas this film does have. Edited 1:06:38.280 --> 1:06:41.080 it's edited and shot in a way to really highlight 1:06:41.240 --> 1:06:44.600 these key moments within the, fight and we see that 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:46.200 just throughout the fight sequences in the. 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:49.000 Picture, YEAH i agree with. That, yeah just good. Editing 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:52.040 so in the middle of the, fight there is a 1:06:52.120 --> 1:06:54.960 moment where we zoom in On. Ann she's still. There 1:06:55.080 --> 1:06:59.160 she's kind of like she's Watching trash While trash is 1:06:59.200 --> 1:07:02.560 whacking one of the zombies with his, Club and suddenly 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:05.560 the sound kind of fades out and the action goes 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:10.000 into slow motion and we See trash's muscles flexing and his, 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:14.720 long sweaty hair billowing while he, Fights AND i legitimately 1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:16.520 thought for a second it was going to start playing 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:21.280 the beginning Of Good. Vibrations, instead it does play, music 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:24.520 but it's these like dissonance swirling chords on the. Keyboard 1:07:24.520 --> 1:07:26.440 it kind of sounds like that music From dawn of The, 1:07:26.480 --> 1:07:30.320 dead you, know the woo kind of. Thing, anyway it 1:07:30.400 --> 1:07:34.280 is clear That anne has been hypnotized by the aura 1:07:34.360 --> 1:07:38.240 of this beautiful motorcycle crime. Boy he is gorgeous and 1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:38.840 she is in. 1:07:38.920 --> 1:07:41.760 Love this had to have BEEN i, guess her, plan 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:45.280 or it's the. Plan now escape to The, bronx fall 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:49.360 in love with a powerful but handsome and lovable. Warlord, 1:07:49.720 --> 1:07:51.920 yeah it seems to be working out so. 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:55.920 Far also in this, fight we See trash deploy his elbow. 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:59.040 Spike so he wears this set of elbow, pads which 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:01.000 you might think would look little. DORKY i don't, know 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:04.480 could people sell elbow pads OR i remember feeling dorky 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:05.320 WHEN i wore them as a. 1:08:05.400 --> 1:08:07.320 Kid, well you just didn't have spikes coming out of. 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:08.320 HIM i guess she would. 1:08:08.320 --> 1:08:09.640 Have it would have been more you would have felt 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:11.320 more self assured had spikes. 1:08:11.480 --> 1:08:14.480 Maybe so his elbow pads have. SPIKES i don't know 1:08:14.480 --> 1:08:16.360 if he has them on both arms or just. One 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:18.120 but he's got a spike at the end of the, 1:08:18.120 --> 1:08:20.400 club a spike on his. Elbow he's got spikes all, 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:22.880 over and so he stabs with the elbow and kills 1:08:22.920 --> 1:08:27.040 one of the zombies that. Way after the, Fight trash Approaches, 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:30.240 anne who is cowering on the ground and kind of 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:33.000 in an alcove in the, tunnel and he speaks to. 1:08:33.040 --> 1:08:36.559 Her he's got the bloody spike club pointed at. Her he, 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:40.240 says where do you come? From she, Says. Manhattan he, 1:08:40.320 --> 1:08:43.320 says want me to take you back? There, Oh, okay 1:08:43.320 --> 1:08:45.000 that's a nice. GESTION i like that as. 1:08:45.000 --> 1:08:47.920 Well you, know it's it's you, know he establishes. Himself 1:08:47.960 --> 1:08:50.720 trash is a. Gentleman, yeah and he's, like all, Right 1:08:50.760 --> 1:08:51.559 i'll take you back if you. 1:08:51.600 --> 1:08:52.280 Want but she's. 1:08:52.840 --> 1:08:55.040 Like what she says next is, NO i don't want 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:55.240 to go. 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:58.120 Back, no she, says. No he, says you, know this 1:08:58.280 --> 1:08:58.519 is The. 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:03.599 BRONX i think there's been a, mistake. Ma'am you are 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:04.280 currently in The. 1:09:04.240 --> 1:09:08.880 Bronx, yeah she. Says she, SAYS i KNOW i came. 1:09:08.960 --> 1:09:11.559 Here this is a. QUOTE i KNOW i came here. 1:09:11.600 --> 1:09:17.240 Purposely anywhere away from, them it's, Better trash. Says but 1:09:17.439 --> 1:09:21.000 nothing is worse than this hell. Hole she, says that's 1:09:21.040 --> 1:09:24.840 what you. Think so he averts his, Spike he offers his, 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:27.920 Hand she takes, it and it's you, know it's boy 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:30.439 meets girl in a tunnel in The, bronx covered in, 1:09:30.479 --> 1:09:34.000 blood and it's. Beautiful like she's trying to escape the 1:09:34.040 --> 1:09:37.280 global heavy arms. Industry he's just trying to control his 1:09:37.400 --> 1:09:40.800 territory and you, know continually find batteries for his bike. 1:09:40.880 --> 1:09:42.080 Skull it's a match made in. 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:44.920 Heaven, YEAH i noticed some of those bike skull batteries 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:47.920 do run. Out later, on we see the riders out 1:09:47.920 --> 1:09:50.720 and about and one guy's skull isn't lit, up And i'm, 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:52.960 like come, on, yeah come, on. 1:09:53.040 --> 1:09:56.559 They budget yeah ran. Dry, yeah where's where's your? Batteries 1:09:56.960 --> 1:09:59.280 but from here she's, actually it, seems just going to 1:09:59.400 --> 1:10:01.760 join the. Gang so Now anne is one of the, 1:10:01.840 --> 1:10:04.959 riders as she is going to Be trash's motorcycle impress 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:06.800 and one of the, gang and she rides around on 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:09.160 a bike of her own and a kind of she 1:10:09.240 --> 1:10:11.559 looks a little bit less scruffy than all of the other, 1:10:11.600 --> 1:10:14.880 bikers but has a more scruffy outfit than her starting 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:15.960 outfit is kind of somewhere in. 1:10:16.040 --> 1:10:19.840 Between, yeah, yeah so she's, yeah she's one of. Them 1:10:19.880 --> 1:10:21.559 there's no this is not a film where we're going 1:10:21.640 --> 1:10:26.240 to deal with the transitional. Stage here she is fully on. 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:37.760 Board so after, this some time, passes and then we 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:40.160 come to a scene that we've actually talked about On 1:10:40.520 --> 1:10:42.439 stuff To blow Your mind, before not on A Weird 1:10:42.439 --> 1:10:45.200 House cinema. Episode we're about to talk about a scene 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:48.120 that came up in a listener mail episode because a 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:50.720 listener wrote in about. It do you remember this role 1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:53.439 WELL i forgot about. This. Okay so this is the 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:56.479 scene of the meeting at the water's edge between The 1:10:56.600 --> 1:11:00.200 riders and The, tigers and there is very little real 1:11:00.520 --> 1:11:03.120 constraint in the. Scene it's almost like a music. Video 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:06.479 so we're out at the edge of some broken docks 1:11:06.560 --> 1:11:09.240 and we see a city skyline across the. Water once, 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:12.519 Again i'm not A New york expert, here but it 1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:16.920 really seems like we're looking From brooklyn Into, Manhattan, like 1:11:17.040 --> 1:11:19.679 isn't it The Brooklyn bridge we're looking at in this? Scene, 1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:24.439 yeah so it's supposed to be The, bronx but then 1:11:24.520 --> 1:11:28.040 begins a drum. Solo so there's just a guy in 1:11:28.080 --> 1:11:31.559 the middle of this dusty empty lot playing a drum 1:11:31.680 --> 1:11:34.080 kit with this, hot fast. Beat there's a lot of 1:11:34.160 --> 1:11:36.680 high hat in, it and he will keep playing the 1:11:36.720 --> 1:11:40.559 drums as this scene goes. ON i love this. Choice 1:11:40.880 --> 1:11:43.400 it's never explained in the, movie but it blurs the 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:47.320 line between diegetic and non diegetic, music like there is 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:51.120 no in world reason for him to be there in the, 1:11:51.160 --> 1:11:54.040 scene so it feels like pure, soundtrack but also we see, 1:11:54.080 --> 1:11:55.400 him so it's not just pure. 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:59.000 Soundtrack, yeah this MIGHT i can't RECALL i don't remember 1:11:59.000 --> 1:12:01.080 the listener mail that came in about, this so perhaps 1:12:01.160 --> 1:12:05.120 that discusses, this but it's my, understanding like this guy 1:12:05.200 --> 1:12:06.680 was just there playing the drums when they came to. 1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:09.760 Shoot really, yeah SO i think they were just they 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:11.800 just rolled with. It they're, like this guy's, great let's 1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:12.680 just getting there shoot the. 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:16.160 Saint. Whoa, yeah unbelievable if that's. True. 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:19.639 Wow, YEAH i don't, Know LIKE i, Say i'm half remembering, 1:12:19.680 --> 1:12:21.799 that and you, know it could just be part. 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:23.600 Of the myth making of the of the. Film i'm not, 1:12:23.640 --> 1:12:27.120 sure but it's. True. Amazing, well, anyway in the, scene 1:12:27.160 --> 1:12:30.000 we zoom in on a dead body impaled on a 1:12:30.000 --> 1:12:33.080 wooden stake beside the. Docks so this dead body is 1:12:33.120 --> 1:12:35.040 in rider's. Gear it seems he was one of the. 1:12:35.080 --> 1:12:36.840 Gang and we're going to find out that this guy 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:37.240 was Named. 1:12:37.320 --> 1:12:42.080 Chris, yeah and he's. Dead he's truly, dead very. 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:46.160 Fully very. Dead. Yeah so the riders, arrive they room 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:48.799 up on mass into the, lot they park their bikes 1:12:48.880 --> 1:12:51.040 and they stare at this dead body in front of, 1:12:51.080 --> 1:12:54.200 them and we see now that and this part of the. 1:12:54.200 --> 1:12:56.960 Gang she's got her own bike and. Everything and this 1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:59.920 scene let's you zoom in on a lot of the 1:13:00.160 --> 1:13:04.759 the gang, textures so we see, tattoos, cuts leather with metal, 1:13:04.800 --> 1:13:08.280 studs one guy with a prosthetic hook arm revving his 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:13.120 bike with the hook, beards, sunglasses. Bandanas you do see 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:16.240 More nazi insignia, here like some, swastikas but other just 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:22.280 weird assortments of imagery and insignias of other, kinds, skulls 1:13:22.360 --> 1:13:25.080 all that kind of. Stuff one guy has a nude 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:29.639 pin up painted onto his. Bike Eventually trash gets off 1:13:29.680 --> 1:13:32.920 his bike goes over to investigate the body while the 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:36.639 drums keep the tension very. High and then While trash 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:39.640 is staring at his dead, warrior another gang enters the, 1:13:39.680 --> 1:13:44.080 picture The. Tigers they arrive in, force and they are 1:13:45.360 --> 1:13:49.160 very different, gang driving fancy classic. Cars you've got a 1:13:49.240 --> 1:13:53.400 mix of like flame painted Hot rods and then old 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:56.320 older luxury cars Like Rolls. 1:13:56.439 --> 1:13:59.000 Royces, yeah so probably a little there's a little bit 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:00.679 Of Mad max to this in. 1:14:00.600 --> 1:14:05.480 This, part, yeah but also elements of it's Like Mad 1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:08.320 max meets like Jazz. Club so you've got these guys 1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:12.360 in cool retro suits with wide. Collars some of them 1:14:12.360 --> 1:14:15.439 are wearing fedoras with like feathers in the band and. 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:18.640 Stuff and as the cars pull, up a lot of 1:14:18.640 --> 1:14:21.240 the cars have guys just hanging off the side of the, 1:14:21.240 --> 1:14:24.040 car standing on the runner boards while they. Drive that's not, 1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:27.000 safe so one of the. 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:29.639 Laws though there are no rules in The bronx. Anymore 1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:30.959 you can just whatever you, want. 1:14:30.960 --> 1:14:34.519 Ride on the runner, boards nothing to stop. You so 1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:37.280 one of The tiger lieutenants is this guy dressed like 1:14:37.320 --> 1:14:40.080 a matred in a burgundy jacket with a bow tie 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:43.080 and ultimate warrior face. Paint this is the guy Named. 1:14:43.160 --> 1:14:48.679 LEECH i think uh And trash walks up To leech 1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:51.120 and says he's gonna have to talk to The, ogre, 1:14:51.240 --> 1:14:54.600 who by the, way MY i think auto generated subtitles 1:14:54.640 --> 1:14:58.519 kept Calling yoga because people are saying The ogre with 1:14:58.600 --> 1:15:01.200 The New york, accents saying, LIKE i need to talk 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:01.479 to The. 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:04.320 Ogre you go to The, ogre tek me to The ogre. 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:08.320 Studio, yeah. Exactly he needs to talk to The, ogre 1:15:08.360 --> 1:15:11.679 the king of The. Tigers so but first he talks 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:14.160 to The matre d and that guy tells him The 1:15:14.200 --> 1:15:17.599 ogre is mad and that The ogre did Kill chris 1:15:17.680 --> 1:15:20.479 the Dead rider. Here but he gave his body back 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:23.640 as a gesture of brotherly, love only the heart is, 1:15:23.720 --> 1:15:25.400 missing and he says he ate. 1:15:25.439 --> 1:15:28.920 It it's a wonderful character building that we're not going 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:31.559 to early see represented In ogre as we come to know. 1:15:31.640 --> 1:15:33.920 Him that he doesn't come off as a heart eating 1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:35.679 cannibal by any. 1:15:35.640 --> 1:15:37.559 Not in the least. Bit it almost feels like they 1:15:38.200 --> 1:15:41.920 the writer was still fleshing out this character and while 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:45.400 writing the scene kind of change directions mid, scene but 1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:47.080 didn't go back and change the earlier. 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:51.040 Dialogue it almost makes me feel Like ogre was originally 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:55.040 going to be played By George, eastman because, Oh George 1:15:55.040 --> 1:15:57.080 eastman has more of like a Towering. 1:15:56.760 --> 1:15:57.680 Ogre feel to. 1:15:57.800 --> 1:16:00.640 Him, Christine, CERTAINLY i can imagine him outing down on 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:03.720 a human heart and a picture like, This SO i 1:16:03.760 --> 1:16:05.920 have nothing to base that on other than my own 1:16:06.400 --> 1:16:09.000 sort of gut instinct Concerning georgie's. 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:13.120 Rolls that is an interesting, THEORY i can see. That. Yeah, 1:16:13.800 --> 1:16:17.240 Anyway So trash walks over To ogre's car Where ogre 1:16:17.400 --> 1:16:21.559 is chilling with which which again Is Elizabeta, dessi And 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:25.639 ogre Is Fred, williamson which is another one Of ogre's. 1:16:25.680 --> 1:16:28.960 Lieutenants she in this scene is like she's dulled up 1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:32.000 in a black sequin dressed with a feather. Boa later 1:16:32.040 --> 1:16:34.360 we're going to see her decked out more for battle 1:16:34.400 --> 1:16:37.240 with like the metal talons and the. Whip but when 1:16:37.240 --> 1:16:40.080 she gets out of the, car she Greets trash with 1:16:40.200 --> 1:16:42.719 kind of a look up and down and a long. Time, 1:16:42.840 --> 1:16:45.280 no see is the delivery. There i'mplying that they once 1:16:45.320 --> 1:16:50.639 had a. RELATIONSHIP i think so maybe she was his. Babysitter, yea, 1:16:51.120 --> 1:16:54.479 YEAH i think she is significantly older than. Him, yeah, 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:59.559 anyway there is time for a parlay here Between trash 1:16:59.640 --> 1:17:04.439 and So ogre. Says, first he, Says leech is a blood. 1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:06.680 Freak if it was up to, him he'd turned The 1:17:06.720 --> 1:17:11.360 bronx into a. Cemetery, Okay AND i guess this is just. 1:17:11.400 --> 1:17:14.280 Amusing the real info in the scene is That ogre 1:17:14.400 --> 1:17:18.439 Killed chris Because chris was trespassing On tiger. Territory this 1:17:18.560 --> 1:17:21.040 is a violation of their. Treaty each gang sticks to 1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:24.760 their own territory in The. Bronx, Also ogre, says you, know, 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:27.439 REALLY i was doing you a favor because quote the 1:17:27.479 --> 1:17:32.280 sucker was carrying a, gizmo a, gizmo and then he 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:36.200 hands over a wristwatch and he says its wavelength is 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:39.760 the same as that of The Manhattan. Police that's the 1:17:39.800 --> 1:17:43.400 wrong kind of. Gizmo And ogre, says IF i were, You, 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:45.639 Trash i'd be worried to find one of my own 1:17:45.680 --> 1:17:50.559 men carrying a. Gizmo now they know exactly where we're, 1:17:50.640 --> 1:17:53.919 Based we're in for a few. Surprises i'd be on the, Lookout. 1:17:53.960 --> 1:17:57.320 Trash so he's worried that the cops now know where they. 1:17:57.360 --> 1:17:59.479 Are BUT i thought the cops did know where they. 1:17:59.520 --> 1:18:01.880 Were the cops just don't care about The bronx, anymore, 1:18:01.960 --> 1:18:04.040 Right like the whole point is the police have given 1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:06.280 up on The bronx and they surrendered it to the. 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:09.519 Gangs, yeah that's my understanding as. WELL i guess If 1:18:09.520 --> 1:18:13.920 i'm being, generous then perhaps the situation is that the 1:18:13.960 --> 1:18:16.519 police are hands off with The, bronx but they keep 1:18:16.560 --> 1:18:20.400 an eye on, it and if one warlord becomes like too, 1:18:20.520 --> 1:18:24.400 powerful then they might have to interfere and maybe engage 1:18:24.439 --> 1:18:28.080 in a little a little espionage and so, forth in 1:18:28.160 --> 1:18:31.240 order to make sure that the gangs remain at each 1:18:31.240 --> 1:18:34.160 other's throat and they don't, become, say all united under 1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:37.280 one king of The. Bronx that would be dangerous because 1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:39.840 then what comes next the conquest of the Other. 1:18:39.880 --> 1:18:42.200 Burroughs that's, right, yeah can you dig? 1:18:42.240 --> 1:18:42.320 It? 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:47.439 Yeah so with, this The tigers return to their. Vehicles 1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:51.320 they drive, away and once the riders are left, Alone 1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:54.960 trash takes the gizmo to his right Hand Manned ice. Again. 1:18:55.040 --> 1:18:57.080 Ice ice is the guy who. Sucks this is the 1:18:57.479 --> 1:19:01.920 trader in The nazi. Jacket is also sometimes Called. Hans 1:19:02.120 --> 1:19:05.680 he's Called hans and THE IMDb credit listing for the 1:19:05.760 --> 1:19:07.080 for the, film AND i think you may have referred 1:19:07.080 --> 1:19:10.960 to him As hans. Earlier Hans, ice same. Guy, okay 1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:13.640 why DID i call Him? Hans maybe did you have 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:14.520 him As Hans. 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:17.559 Hans, earlier because that's how he's listed On. IMDb but 1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:19.400 then WHEN i was watching the, films, like they're only 1:19:19.439 --> 1:19:21.760 calling this Guy, ice SO i switched it over And 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:23.400 ice is more in keeping with Hot. 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:27.599 Dog so, yeah all the TIMES i remember they call Him, 1:19:27.640 --> 1:19:30.160 ICE i THINK i may have Said hans in the notes, 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:32.120 somewhere because you Had hans in the. Outline, Yeah i'm, 1:19:32.160 --> 1:19:33.320 Sorry i'm not trying to blame. 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:35.920 You, no, no, no but, yeah that's that's probably the. Reason, Yeah, 1:19:36.000 --> 1:19:38.400 ice he's in there hanging out With Tater, tot Hot 1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:41.760 dog And Sour, kraut the whole. 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:46.000 Gang but to, reaffirm, Yeah ice. Sucks ice is the 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:50.599 bad guy, here but he he is going to see 1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:53.600 this spy. Device he's like. Noncommittal he's not going to 1:19:53.640 --> 1:19:56.519 confirm Was chris a trader or. Not Maybe over is 1:19:56.560 --> 1:19:59.360 lying to, them then they'll they'll find out. Later so 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:03.160 throughout we get some kind of control room scenes where 1:20:03.200 --> 1:20:05.680 you have the director of the movie barking orders at 1:20:05.720 --> 1:20:09.559 people working radios and. Stuff we also occasionally pop in 1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:13.360 with cops who are flying over The bronx in helicopters 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:16.800 or patrolling the streets in armored. Trucks it seems like 1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:20.559 maybe they didn't quite abandon it. Totally this might just 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:24.120 be because of the MISSING ceo, daughter but they're getting 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:26.840 back into the mix here in The, bronx and these 1:20:26.880 --> 1:20:30.640 cops are not cool headed public. Servants there is No 1:20:30.800 --> 1:20:35.240 Officer Alex murphy among. Them they seem to be interchangeable 1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:38.479 with corporate security. Services so they're doing the bidding Of 1:20:38.520 --> 1:20:43.479 fisher and his, minions and their attitude is just straightforward fascist. 1:20:43.520 --> 1:20:47.679 Thuggery they constantly express the desire to burn The bronx 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.320 to the ground and clean out the vermin and that 1:20:50.400 --> 1:20:55.200 sort of. Thing, meanwhile the writers are debating what happened With. 1:20:55.320 --> 1:20:59.479 Chris ice is arguing that it's a. Setup he thinks 1:20:59.520 --> 1:21:03.200 Actually ogre is the real villain, here and he Thinks 1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:06.719 ogre is using this story to keep them distracted while 1:21:06.760 --> 1:21:11.720 he makes. Moves but in the, Background, blade who we 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:14.040 saw earlier in the fight, scene is another one Of 1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:17.400 trash's loyal. Soldiers he. Disagrees he Thinks ogre is telling 1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:20.800 the truth That chris was a. Trader this is a 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:23.680 real gizmo and, he you, know he's just sort of 1:21:23.680 --> 1:21:28.519 different To. Trash Ice Mock's, blade And ice, says what 1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:30.320 we need to do is go to war with The. 1:21:30.360 --> 1:21:32.679 Tigers we got to straighten them out once and for. All, 1:21:33.320 --> 1:21:36.719 also this conversation has the first invocation of Hot. Dog 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:40.560 ice says The ogre and Hot, DOG i wouldn't be 1:21:40.600 --> 1:21:43.240 surprised if it was them that Sold chris the gizmo 1:21:43.320 --> 1:21:45.640 in the first. Place AND i think it's time we 1:21:45.720 --> 1:21:49.759 got Even, yeah what a, sentence As i'm still even 1:21:49.760 --> 1:21:52.040 on second, VIEWING i was still trying to figure Out Hot. 1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:55.120 Dog, yeah, like why do we need another care BECAUSE 1:21:55.439 --> 1:21:56.960 i think it should be clear at this, Point like 1:21:57.000 --> 1:22:01.519 the plot is almost overly complex, here like the films 1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:04.640 that it clearly, inspired this, movie you, know are not 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:06.760 simple in their, structure BUT i feel like they are 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:09.200 a lot more, streamlined and we have we have just 1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:12.400 a number of factions here and a number of. Individuals 1:22:12.479 --> 1:22:15.880 the politics are are kind of Like game Of thrones level, 1:22:16.360 --> 1:22:18.840 already and they don't really need to be for a 1:22:18.880 --> 1:22:19.320 movie like. 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:23.479 This in this, Scene anne has another. Idea she, says, 1:22:23.880 --> 1:22:26.720 uh MAYBE i was the One chris was spying. On 1:22:26.880 --> 1:22:29.439 since it's, like you, know the largest corporation in the 1:22:29.479 --> 1:22:34.000 world which controls the cops is looking for. Me you 1:22:34.120 --> 1:22:36.360 think the gang would be, like, oh that makes, sense 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:38.160 but instead they're, like, eh maybe who. 1:22:38.200 --> 1:22:41.120 Knows these these these gangs are just like it's all about. 1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:42.840 Them they just think they're the center of the. 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:48.000 Universe so there are more scenes, where, uh we See 1:22:48.040 --> 1:22:51.519 fisher running around like taking phone calls and he'll, say, 1:22:51.560 --> 1:22:55.000 like It's, Fisher i'm In. Manhattan she's always In. Manhattan 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:58.000 where else would you. Be there are scenes of this 1:22:58.680 --> 1:23:03.559 developing romance Between trash And. Ann he's, like are you 1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:05.960 missing a boyfriend back In? Manhattan do you want to 1:23:06.000 --> 1:23:09.120 go back? There and she's, like, NO i love only 1:23:09.200 --> 1:23:11.559 you and the. Gang it's the first Time i've ever 1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:15.040 really felt THAT i. Belong she, says this is a quote. 1:23:15.439 --> 1:23:19.280 QUOTE i feel safe with, You. Trash don't you ever 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:20.679 let them take me away from? 1:23:20.720 --> 1:23:20.800 You? 1:23:21.240 --> 1:23:24.240 Yeah and this is said in a flophouse room with 1:23:24.320 --> 1:23:26.240 just infinite layers of graffiti on the. 1:23:26.280 --> 1:23:30.759 Walls, yeah but they, have you, Know Coca cola And 1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:33.800 Jack daniels and Possibly half And, half so they're. 1:23:33.840 --> 1:23:39.080 Good. Yeah there's an action scene later where the writers 1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:42.160 mess with an armored police truck so they like lead 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:44.760 it on a merry chase and they spray painted cussword 1:23:44.800 --> 1:23:46.960 on the windshield while the truck is still in. MOTION 1:23:47.160 --> 1:23:50.599 i like that. Party, meanwhile we finally get to Meet 1:23:50.760 --> 1:23:54.519 Vic morrow As. Hammer so he comes into frame on, 1:23:54.640 --> 1:23:57.719 foot wandering the streets of The bronx with a tube shaped, 1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:00.639 package like he's delivering a poster in a post. Tube 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:05.120 what do you think secretly inside? There Funk base plays 1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:08.720 while he. Walks he's got a trucker hat aviator, sunglasses 1:24:08.800 --> 1:24:12.800 an open windbreaker, jacket just very classic bounty hunter. Look 1:24:13.200 --> 1:24:18.240 just a stone cold. Killer. Yeah So hammer locates and 1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:22.280 strolls into the writer's, hideout which is a ruined building 1:24:22.360 --> 1:24:25.600 with graffiti. Everywhere there are a couple of lookouts on the, 1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:28.240 stairs a man and a woman who are making out 1:24:28.280 --> 1:24:31.920 When hammer, enters and when they See hammer coming past 1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:36.840 the past the staircase, landing the mail writer stands up 1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:38.960 and he pulls out a, switchblade and he gives this great. 1:24:39.000 --> 1:24:41.960 Line he, says go another step and you're. Dead try 1:24:42.000 --> 1:24:44.600 to run away and you're. Dead stay right where you. 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:47.240 Are you're, dead, too horrible negotiation. 1:24:47.360 --> 1:24:50.880 Tactic you're just. Giving you're giving the other guy no options. 1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:54.559 Here, Right But hammer is too. Deadly he turns and 1:24:54.640 --> 1:24:57.559 reveals that his tube shaped package is not a. Poster 1:24:57.680 --> 1:25:00.719 it's not a poster Of Jim. Morrison it's a hidden, 1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:03.519 shotgun and he blasts the man with the, knife and 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.920 then in a super cold, move he shoots the woman 1:25:05.960 --> 1:25:08.200 on the stairs, too who she has not moved or 1:25:08.200 --> 1:25:12.080 made any. Threats so we instantly learn, like oh whoa? 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:14.840 Okay hammer does not care for human. Life one bit 1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:15.840 death is cheap to. 1:25:15.920 --> 1:25:18.960 HIM i liked how when he fires off the first, 1:25:18.960 --> 1:25:21.240 shot he fires it, well it's still in the tube as. 1:25:21.240 --> 1:25:24.200 Well he has like a secret little trapdoor on the 1:25:24.240 --> 1:25:26.760 side of the tube and he's firing the shotgun before 1:25:26.760 --> 1:25:27.200 it's fully. 1:25:27.240 --> 1:25:31.559 Revealed, yeah and then as a red, Herring hammer DROPS 1:25:31.600 --> 1:25:34.720 i believe a gold ring of The Tigers gang on 1:25:34.880 --> 1:25:39.280 the dead. Bodies so, anyway the gunfire alerts all of 1:25:39.320 --> 1:25:42.200 the riders, inside and this leads into this tense scene 1:25:42.200 --> 1:25:45.640 Where hammer fights through the, hideout shooting and then disappearing 1:25:45.680 --> 1:25:49.439 and they're chasing him. Around trash shows some bravado in this, 1:25:49.560 --> 1:25:52.000 fight just standing in the middle of the halls instead 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:55.000 of instead of taking. Cover AS i said, earlier in 1:25:55.040 --> 1:25:59.400 a lot of the scenes with, Violence trash just shows 1:25:59.600 --> 1:26:02.640 uttered disregard for his own, safeties just like does not 1:26:02.680 --> 1:26:05.519 even appear to be making an effort to, survive except 1:26:05.520 --> 1:26:10.280 in like fighting and dealing blows. Back so Eventually hammer 1:26:10.360 --> 1:26:12.679 flees out a window and jumps in a big. Truck 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:16.160 it's like A, neon, yellow green and black semi trailer 1:26:16.200 --> 1:26:19.240 truck without a. Trailer takes off down the road and 1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:22.960 the riders, follow and then there's a clever little escape 1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:26.679 moment where the truck slows down And Vic marrow jumps 1:26:26.840 --> 1:26:30.080 out of the truck onto an elevated train, platform and 1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:33.000 then the truck keeps. Going the riders keep chasing the 1:26:33.000 --> 1:26:36.040 truck once they finally catch up to. It is there anyone? 1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:39.400 Inside why there? Is and it's Hot, dog Hot? 1:26:39.400 --> 1:26:42.240 Dog all, right we'll finally get to figure out what 1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:44.599 Hot dog's all? About what's the all? About will we really? 1:26:44.720 --> 1:26:48.639 Know so they're, like, oh it's Hot, dog of, course 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:53.000 And ice is immediately mad at Hot. Dog ice accuses 1:26:53.080 --> 1:26:55.880 him of trying to help the guy who attacked them, 1:26:56.080 --> 1:26:59.200 escape which does seem to be what. Happened Hot dog 1:26:59.240 --> 1:27:02.760 And ice trade insults and threats back and. Forth Hot 1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:05.800 dog has a prosthetic, leg And ice keeps threatening to 1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:10.280 shove it in certain. Places trash searches Hot dog's, cab 1:27:10.439 --> 1:27:13.720 doesn't find. Anything trash asks, him did you sell that 1:27:13.760 --> 1:27:16.559 gizmo To? Chris Hot dog, says, like you're gonna ask 1:27:16.600 --> 1:27:18.320 me questions about a? GIZMO i don't even know what 1:27:18.360 --> 1:27:23.400 a gizmo. Is back at the, base the writers have 1:27:23.479 --> 1:27:25.960 a kind Of viking funeral for the two riders who 1:27:26.000 --> 1:27:28.559 are killed in the. Stairwell they burn them on a 1:27:28.600 --> 1:27:32.240 giant funeral pyre and the riders each get a fistful 1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:34.519 of the ashes to ride out to The East river 1:27:34.600 --> 1:27:37.559 and throw the ashes, in THOUGH i would note that 1:27:38.080 --> 1:27:40.000 we see them do this and most of the ashes 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:41.760 do not make it to the. Water they just kind 1:27:41.800 --> 1:27:44.599 of blow back in the rider's faces Big lebowski. Style 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:51.760 also during the funeral, scene ultra dramatic choral. MUSIC i 1:27:51.800 --> 1:27:55.680 don't know what this music, is but for the emotional 1:27:55.720 --> 1:28:01.080 tone they, Like Oh fortuna is just incredibly dramatic kind of. 1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:03.960 Thing, yeah it really reminded me of that as. Well, yeah, 1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:04.559 yeah very. 1:28:04.560 --> 1:28:09.519 Intense. Yeah anne blames herself for what. Happened she says 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:11.439 it never would have happened if she didn't come, here 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:15.240 But trash tells her it's The. Bronx worse things happen every. Day. 1:28:16.880 --> 1:28:19.400 Now there are more scenes of scheming between the bad. 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:22.599 Guys we get these phone calls Between fisher And hammer 1:28:22.640 --> 1:28:25.000 Where fisher's, like work, faster what AM i paying you 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:28.760 for that kind of? Thing Meanwhile hammer is, LIKE i 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:31.280 don't care about. Anything fire me if you, WANT i don't, 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:34.479 care And fisher keeps him on the, job he explains 1:28:34.520 --> 1:28:37.280 to his toady That hammer is a better option than 1:28:37.320 --> 1:28:40.759 sending a special squad because they can't have any negative. 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:44.240 Publicity he, says it can only Be. Hammer he was 1:28:44.320 --> 1:28:48.000 born in The, bronx he's one of. Them and then 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:50.280 the vice President guy's, like but he has his own 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:53.599 acts to grind and he's a killer at, Heart and 1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:57.519 Then fisher says he's just an hoole who thinks He's, 1:28:57.640 --> 1:29:02.679 god to which the vice president, REPLIES i hope you're. 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:05.960 Right, yeah this sounds like the perfect guy to hire 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:09.160 when you cannot have any bad publicity at. All let's 1:29:09.200 --> 1:29:12.639 just hire an absolute. PSYCHOPATH i really hope this guy 1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:15.320 we hired his delusions of grandeur that will get in 1:29:15.360 --> 1:29:17.880 the way of him being able to perform his task. 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:23.800 Effectively that'll never happen. Anyway anne is feeling guilty about 1:29:23.800 --> 1:29:26.280 causing the deaths of her gang. Mates they were Named 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:30.160 sandy And, speedy by the, Way so what speedy sounds 1:29:30.160 --> 1:29:33.280 like an insulting name for a motorcycle gang. Member don't 1:29:33.280 --> 1:29:35.920 it sound like you're mocking him or? Something? 1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:38.000 Yeah, yeah why didn't this guy get a good name like? 1:29:38.080 --> 1:29:44.599 Trash so she rides off on a motorcycle on her. 1:29:44.600 --> 1:29:47.920 Own she goes to the beach to. Brood, meanwhile back 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:52.000 at gang, headquarters a debate breaks. Out so they find 1:29:52.000 --> 1:29:55.040 The tiger's ring on the, bodies And ice is, like, 1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:58.000 LOOK i told, you told, you this is evidence from 1:29:58.000 --> 1:30:00.880 my previous. Argument The tigers are making moves against. Us 1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:03.719 we got to bring war to the. Tigers And ice 1:30:03.800 --> 1:30:06.760 gets everybody in the gang chanting like, yeah, war kill, them, 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:10.120 all kill. Them But trash is the voice of reason. 1:30:10.200 --> 1:30:11.680 Here he's, like, look we don't know what was the. 1:30:11.720 --> 1:30:14.280 Tigers this could be a trick trying to get us 1:30:14.280 --> 1:30:18.120 to do exactly what you're doing. Now And, blade the trusty, 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:22.160 sideman he sides With. Trash he's, like you, Know he's, like, 1:30:22.240 --> 1:30:24.360 yeah let's let's let's take more time to figure out 1:30:24.360 --> 1:30:27.600 what's really going. On but basically everybody seems to be 1:30:27.640 --> 1:30:30.280 On ICE's, side itching for, war so you, Know trash 1:30:30.280 --> 1:30:33.080 could have a mutiny on his hands. Here the scene 1:30:33.120 --> 1:30:36.240 also has some lines we probably shouldn't quote on unless 1:30:36.240 --> 1:30:38.400 we want to get the podcast. Flagged but it's, some 1:30:39.080 --> 1:30:41.000 as you said in a text to, Me, rob great 1:30:41.040 --> 1:30:43.800 moments and. Cussing it's so. Good oh, yeah we. 1:30:43.800 --> 1:30:45.920 CAN'T i guess we can't say, it but it's it's 1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:47.439 pretty incredible laugh out loud. 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:53.400 Moment. Yeah So trash finds, that he goes and he 1:30:53.439 --> 1:30:55.320 Finds anne on the. Beach he rides out to be 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:58.000 with her and they have an emotional heart to. Heart 1:30:58.120 --> 1:31:03.519 this scene is also. Unintentionally ann says she Loves, trash 1:31:03.560 --> 1:31:06.000 but she can't stay because she knows she's the cause 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:08.360 of these killings and if she, stays more people will. 1:31:08.400 --> 1:31:12.360 Die trash has a very philosophical response to. This he, 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:16.639 SAYS i wrote this. Down he, says. Nonsense we were born. 1:31:16.800 --> 1:31:20.759 Dead life means. Nothing we live with death every single. 1:31:20.840 --> 1:31:24.519 Day death walks with, Us death rides and sleeps with. 1:31:24.640 --> 1:31:28.479 Us we carry its smell onto our. Skins so don't 1:31:28.479 --> 1:31:29.000 go blame in. 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:31.719 Yourself stop stop making so much, Sense. 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:36.400 Trash. Yeah anne explains that when she comes of, age 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:38.800 she will have to. Inherit the throne of The Manhattan, 1:31:38.840 --> 1:31:43.839 corporation which wrote this down also quote controls over sixty 1:31:43.840 --> 1:31:47.080 percent of the world's arms, production which Means i'd be 1:31:47.120 --> 1:31:51.120 a mere puppet on a, string manipulated by, greedy power crazed. 1:31:51.200 --> 1:31:55.439 Hands they're, Unscrupulous, trash AND i don't want any part in. 1:31:55.479 --> 1:31:59.320 It yet without, me they're. Powerless, okay so now you 1:31:59.400 --> 1:32:02.799 understand why they'll act at any, cost use any means 1:32:02.840 --> 1:32:05.519 to get their filthy hands on. Me, No, trash these 1:32:05.600 --> 1:32:09.360 killings were not a. Coincidence, GOD i was trying to. 1:32:09.439 --> 1:32:12.120 Understand why would they be powerless without? 1:32:12.240 --> 1:32:14.679 HER i, mean it seems like it would at most 1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:17.839 be a temporary, scenario, Right, like at some point there 1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:20.200 has to be some sort of a plan that kicks 1:32:20.240 --> 1:32:24.679 in if the Air apparent refuses to take the throne 1:32:24.960 --> 1:32:29.760 or is declared dead or is killed by cannibals underneath the, 1:32:29.760 --> 1:32:33.160 Bronx like something has to happen, next unless IT'S i, 1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:36.519 guess set up to where like the corporation just you, 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:38.480 know comes apart at the seams. 1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:41.880 And there it's in their bylaws that if they don't 1:32:41.920 --> 1:32:46.840 have like a hereditary air to assume the throne at 1:32:46.840 --> 1:32:48.400 a certain, time the corporation just. 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:51.880 Dissolves, YEAH i. Guess so that's the BEST i can imagine. 1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:55.679 Here, Anyway so he, Is so she gives that, speech 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:58.240 And trash, says if this is, true you'd be running 1:32:58.320 --> 1:33:01.000 right back into their. Arms she, SAYS i, know but 1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:04.800 better that than seeing you. Killed and Then trash hair 1:33:04.920 --> 1:33:07.680 blowing in the. Sea breeze, says at least dying for 1:33:07.760 --> 1:33:11.200 you would give my life a. Meaning and so they 1:33:11.320 --> 1:33:14.840 ride off. Together, however on the way, back when riding 1:33:14.840 --> 1:33:16.920 through a, TUNNEL i think the same tunnel where they 1:33:16.920 --> 1:33:17.719 had the fight scene. 1:33:17.720 --> 1:33:22.280 Earlier, yeah it would be the room sound stage, Interior. 1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:27.120 Trash And anne are ambushed by. Zombies not the, zombies 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:31.879 but the zombies the roller hockey. Players trash is trapped 1:33:31.880 --> 1:33:35.200 in a net and knocked, unconscious And anne is kidnapped 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:37.759 back to the zombies headquarters the roller hockey. 1:33:37.840 --> 1:33:42.240 Dojo all, right so everything is thrown in. Disarray our 1:33:42.280 --> 1:33:43.760 lovers are. Separated what's going to? 1:33:43.800 --> 1:33:57.160 Happen so there is a scene Between hammer and Hot. 1:33:57.200 --> 1:34:00.600 Dog Hot dog Helped hammer because he owed him a, 1:34:00.640 --> 1:34:03.880 favor but he doesn't want to get caught up in 1:34:03.920 --> 1:34:06.600 a gang. War and we learned that the girl is. 1:34:06.640 --> 1:34:09.360 Important hammer explains she's going to be the future president 1:34:09.360 --> 1:34:12.080 of The Manhattan. Corporation he's, like you gotta help. Me 1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:15.479 Hot dog, says how much are you gonna pay? Me hammer, 1:34:15.520 --> 1:34:18.439 says don't talk to me that. Way don't talk to 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:23.439 me that way, ever and then Later hammer says that 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:27.080 Hot dog needs to set up a meeting between himself 1:34:27.400 --> 1:34:31.120 Between hammer And. Ice Hot dog, says, ooh but be. 1:34:31.200 --> 1:34:33.920 Careful ice is. Ambitious you, know he wants to take 1:34:33.920 --> 1:34:36.920 over the. Gang he wants to Usurp, trash And hammer says. 1:34:37.080 --> 1:34:42.000 Exactly Hot dog, says you're playing with. Fire hammer, SAYS i, 1:34:42.120 --> 1:34:44.320 know AND i love. IT i love. 1:34:44.360 --> 1:34:47.599 It And Vic morro is so. Good you believe it 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:49.519 like you believe this line that would just be a 1:34:49.560 --> 1:34:53.760 throwaway villain line from most. Actors that he believes. It 1:34:53.840 --> 1:34:54.719 he really believes. 1:34:54.720 --> 1:34:58.600 It So ice is still pushing for. War when we 1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:00.200 hook back up at The, gang he, say and we've 1:35:00.200 --> 1:35:04.040 got to attack the. Tigers First blade responds by, saying 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:06.360 you've got to be. Kidding you've got your gray matter 1:35:06.520 --> 1:35:10.479 in your. Butt in the middle of this, Argument trash 1:35:10.560 --> 1:35:13.760 rides up and reports That anne has been, kidnapped And 1:35:13.960 --> 1:35:17.000 ice And trash have a disagreement over how to react to. 1:35:17.040 --> 1:35:20.200 This ice, says let's go to war against the. Tigers, 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:24.000 oh brilliant. Ideas like, Furthermore carthage must be. Destroyed there 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:26.400 every single scene Is ice is just we got to 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:30.000 go to war against The. Tigers trash, Says, No, Instead 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:32.400 i'm going to go talk to The. Ogre i'm gonna 1:35:32.400 --> 1:35:34.880 find out what's really happening and see if we can 1:35:34.920 --> 1:35:37.760 work together to Save ann from The zombies and from 1:35:37.800 --> 1:35:41.320 The Manhattan. Corporation But ice, says how are you going 1:35:41.400 --> 1:35:43.160 to get To Ogre because you'd have to go through 1:35:43.200 --> 1:35:47.519 the territories of The, jackals The, scavengers The. Sharks you'd 1:35:47.520 --> 1:35:49.240 have to make it all the way back To Coney 1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:51.599 island in one. Night, yeah that's a whole movie right. 1:35:51.640 --> 1:35:54.840 There it is the plot of The warriors condensed into The, 1:35:54.840 --> 1:35:57.479 bronx except we're not going to see most of these 1:35:57.520 --> 1:35:58.720 gang there's only a couple of. 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:00.919 Them, YEAH i can only imagine what who The jackals? 1:36:00.920 --> 1:36:04.920 Were The. Sharks, Yeah So trash decides to take a 1:36:04.960 --> 1:36:08.320 team with, him and he leaves his trusty Friend blade 1:36:08.439 --> 1:36:12.200 behind to keep an eye On. Ice so let's. See 1:36:12.200 --> 1:36:15.559 we get a scene at the zombies headquarters Where ann Meets, 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:18.400 golum the head of The. Zombies this Is George, Eastman, 1:36:18.840 --> 1:36:21.599 rob you have comments on this place sort of a training. Gym, 1:36:22.080 --> 1:36:22.840 YEAH i love. 1:36:22.880 --> 1:36:28.480 This they're constantly engaging in kind of it's very, colorful 1:36:29.280 --> 1:36:33.839 very theatrical terrorist. Training so there's a lot like hustling 1:36:33.840 --> 1:36:38.240 around mostly on roller skates and, yeah it's just a 1:36:38.240 --> 1:36:41.719 circus fun. House it's pretty. Great, again love the bright. 1:36:41.760 --> 1:36:45.160 Colors love this this makeover For George eastman where he 1:36:45.200 --> 1:36:48.920 also he also kind of looks like he's taking a 1:36:48.960 --> 1:36:52.120 break from being like a mocap villain on A Mortal kombat. 1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:54.759 Game you, know he's got something about the costume, Here. 1:36:54.880 --> 1:36:57.600 Yeah the spread, out like THE v shaped pads and 1:36:57.640 --> 1:37:00.599 the shoulders it. Does it looks like like a red 1:37:00.760 --> 1:37:04.960 version of like The scorpion sub zero suit In Mortal. Kombat, 1:37:05.000 --> 1:37:09.240 yeah except without a without a head. Covering. Yeah so 1:37:09.400 --> 1:37:12.160 this place, ALSO i, like has tire swings, inside but 1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:13.080 this very painted. 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:15.120 White. YEAH i think that it has that sort of 1:37:15.160 --> 1:37:17.760 like terrorist training on a playground feel to, it where 1:37:18.400 --> 1:37:21.519 it feels like like it's a set From bozo The, 1:37:21.600 --> 1:37:25.200 clown except you have all these these heartless soldiers that 1:37:25.280 --> 1:37:27.720 are training their their conquest exercises. 1:37:27.760 --> 1:37:31.479 Here. Yeah it is a mix between like The Specter 1:37:31.800 --> 1:37:34.600 kill training grounds in A James bond movie and like 1:37:34.640 --> 1:37:39.280 A Dz discovery. Zone also they've Got anne chained up 1:37:39.320 --> 1:37:41.320 in the middle of the, gymnasium just right in the 1:37:41.320 --> 1:37:45.960 middle where everybody's running around on skates around. Her So 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:49.080 trash and his cycle notts are now traveling through the 1:37:49.080 --> 1:37:53.120 different gang. Territories my favorite gang again or the top 1:37:53.120 --> 1:37:57.040 hat ballet mimes and the kiss. Makeup we run into 1:37:57.080 --> 1:38:02.040 them in some room with all these. COLUMNS i think 1:38:02.040 --> 1:38:05.439 these are called The Iron. Men but they're about to 1:38:05.439 --> 1:38:08.120 have to fight with all these. Guys but Then, trash their, 1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:10.320 leader comes, out who is a woman in a gold 1:38:10.400 --> 1:38:13.479 top hat and a gold, suit And trash flirts with, 1:38:13.520 --> 1:38:15.920 her and after some kind of light threats back and, 1:38:15.960 --> 1:38:18.800 forth she actually she reveals she likes. Him she lets 1:38:18.840 --> 1:38:21.960 them pass through. Unharmed she, says you're, Lucky. Trash you, 1:38:22.000 --> 1:38:24.240 See i've got a soft spot in my heart for. 1:38:24.320 --> 1:38:27.360 You And trash, says and they, say you've got an iron. 1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:31.360 Heart, ah there you. Go that's where the iron in comes. From, yeah, 1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:33.160 YEAH i love this. FACTION i like to think that 1:38:33.200 --> 1:38:36.040 they're all Like broadway musical exiles who have been like you, 1:38:36.080 --> 1:38:38.320 know they have had a fleet to The, bronx AND 1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:40.080 i love. That, hey we didn't have to solve this 1:38:40.080 --> 1:38:42.280 one with. Violence this one was more of a charisma 1:38:42.320 --> 1:38:45.960 saving throat sort of, thing so they're able to keep moving. 1:38:46.640 --> 1:38:49.280 Now in the, meantime here there is some scheming Between 1:38:49.320 --> 1:38:53.000 hammer And. Ice ice Betrays trash so that he can 1:38:53.040 --> 1:38:56.960 take over the. Gang blade snoops on this, meeting by 1:38:56.960 --> 1:38:59.920 the way he sees them making a, deal But ice 1:39:00.120 --> 1:39:04.400 Gives hammer a spike club just Like trash's signature, weapons 1:39:04.479 --> 1:39:06.280 so this is gonna be perfect for a frame up. 1:39:06.360 --> 1:39:11.200 Later and Then blade runs After trash to warn, him 1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:15.519 but he gets caught by The. Scavengers so this is 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:18.439 another sequence of the gang territory The trash and his 1:39:18.560 --> 1:39:21.800 men must pass. Through they got to go through The scavenger's, 1:39:21.880 --> 1:39:25.160 ground which is like a DUSTY i want to say, 1:39:25.280 --> 1:39:28.320 sewer but it's not. Wet it's like a, dusty dry 1:39:28.520 --> 1:39:33.320 underground sewer underground passageways and, catacombs and there are these 1:39:34.360 --> 1:39:37.720 mutant kind of dudes down there wearing rags with like 1:39:37.840 --> 1:39:41.400 white dusty faces and just dust coming off of them 1:39:41.479 --> 1:39:45.400 and dangling, bandages almost like they're kind of mummies or. 1:39:45.439 --> 1:39:48.600 SOMETHING i don't know what these guys are, exactly BUT 1:39:49.120 --> 1:39:51.680 i assume there's some kind of mutants or something in the. 1:39:51.680 --> 1:39:58.160 Sewers, yeah, yeah just some sort of mutant, creatures mutated. Humans, 1:39:58.760 --> 1:40:01.360 yeah they don't seem to really have care. Characters they're just. 1:40:01.479 --> 1:40:04.840 Hostile but eventually we come into the third, act which 1:40:04.880 --> 1:40:07.439 is when we hook back up with the tigers and 1:40:07.640 --> 1:40:10.800 With ogre And. Witch so when we first Meet ogre, 1:40:10.840 --> 1:40:13.320 again he's like going through all of these shipments THAT 1:40:13.360 --> 1:40:16.040 i think are going to be distributed to the neighborhoods 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:19.479 in The. Bronx so this is your classic gang leader 1:40:19.560 --> 1:40:22.439 who is showing his large ass to the, people you, 1:40:22.479 --> 1:40:25.040 know making making friends of the people by giving gifts to, 1:40:25.080 --> 1:40:25.799 THEM i. Believe. 1:40:25.960 --> 1:40:28.120 Yeah, Yeah and again he sees himself as the king 1:40:28.160 --> 1:40:30.519 of The, bronx and apparently to some, degree takes it 1:40:30.560 --> 1:40:33.720 seriously and is bestowing goods and gifts upon. 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:38.320 Them so he's hanging out in his big pleasure, dome you, 1:40:38.360 --> 1:40:40.240 know with all of his. FRIENDS i think they actually 1:40:40.240 --> 1:40:43.759 have a tiger in. There, yeah and they've got music 1:40:43.880 --> 1:40:47.080 and it's just cool people lounging about And ogre and 1:40:47.120 --> 1:40:52.200 which and So trash is trying to sneak into this 1:40:52.320 --> 1:40:57.200 place to talk To. Ogre but, unfortunately while he is sneaking. 1:40:57.240 --> 1:40:58.960 IN i feel like he shouldn't have snuck. In he 1:40:59.000 --> 1:41:01.200 should just kind of like go hands up and be like, 1:41:01.280 --> 1:41:03.320 OPENLY i want to talk To. Ogre the sneaking in 1:41:03.479 --> 1:41:06.120 kind of gets him in trouble because while he's sneaking, 1:41:06.160 --> 1:41:09.600 in he gets caught by one member of The, tigers 1:41:10.000 --> 1:41:12.640 and Then hammer is. There by the, way did you 1:41:13.479 --> 1:41:17.760 note How hammer just straight up has teleportation powers in this. 1:41:17.840 --> 1:41:21.320 Movie he never seems to take him any time to 1:41:21.400 --> 1:41:25.360 get between. Places he's just instantly wherever the plot needs 1:41:25.439 --> 1:41:26.519 him to be at any given. 1:41:26.560 --> 1:41:29.160 Time, yeah he's like the. Devil he just pops up 1:41:29.240 --> 1:41:29.959 As nata. 1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:32.360 Or Like Jason, vorhees he's how did he get in 1:41:32.360 --> 1:41:35.120 front of? Us but he in this, case he just 1:41:35.200 --> 1:41:39.759 appears behind this guy and throws a spike club into 1:41:39.760 --> 1:41:43.680 the guy's back and Frames trash for the. Murder so 1:41:43.720 --> 1:41:47.479 he's trying to Get ogre to Kill trash so that 1:41:47.880 --> 1:41:51.479 he can Make hans The king of The riders and 1:41:51.560 --> 1:41:53.400 he can Get anne back to take her back to 1:41:53.439 --> 1:41:56.639 The Manhattan. Corporation so it looks like that's gonna happen 1:41:56.640 --> 1:41:58.479 for a. While but THEN i, think sort of which 1:41:58.600 --> 1:42:01.439 stands up For, trash. Doesn't she kind of vouches for 1:42:01.520 --> 1:42:06.639 him To, ogre And ogre eventually ends up Believing. Trash 1:42:06.680 --> 1:42:08.920 now do you remember exactly what it is that kind 1:42:08.920 --> 1:42:11.960 of Gets ogre On trash's? SIDE i do. 1:42:12.160 --> 1:42:14.719 Not, yeah at this point in the, movie it. Does 1:42:15.120 --> 1:42:17.280 things begin to sort of like everything's kind of lining 1:42:17.360 --> 1:42:19.760 up and you can kind of see where things are. 1:42:19.800 --> 1:42:24.759 Going but, yeah whatever doubt was there is swiftly, erased 1:42:24.840 --> 1:42:27.720 and it becomes clear that there's gonna be a there's 1:42:27.760 --> 1:42:32.400 gonna be An Ogre trash team up. Here, yes they're 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:35.720 going to be a united front against the. Enemies it's 1:42:35.760 --> 1:42:36.479 a great team. 1:42:36.560 --> 1:42:40.559 Up so Once trash And ogre are on the same, 1:42:40.600 --> 1:42:42.519 team which comes with them and the three of them 1:42:42.560 --> 1:42:46.840 head back down into the, sewers Into scavenger Territory, uh 1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:49.000 and they're going to go to where the zombies are 1:42:49.040 --> 1:42:51.120 because they find out that the zombies Have ann and 1:42:51.160 --> 1:42:53.960 they're going to rescue. Her so this leads into some 1:42:53.960 --> 1:42:58.160 great fight Scenes Ogre witch And uh And hammer or 1:42:58.360 --> 1:43:02.360 Not hammer, Sorry Ogre witch and fighting the. Mutants LIKE 1:43:02.400 --> 1:43:05.160 i said, EARLIER i really Enjoy Fred williamson's fight. SCENES 1:43:05.200 --> 1:43:07.240 i really enjoy witch in the fight scenes as. Well 1:43:07.320 --> 1:43:09.280 she's got a whip with her and she cracks it 1:43:09.320 --> 1:43:09.800 on the bad. 1:43:09.840 --> 1:43:12.360 GUYS i think we get an excellent beheading of one 1:43:12.360 --> 1:43:15.360 of the mutants By ogre here to punctuate this fight. 1:43:15.479 --> 1:43:19.760 Sequence but eventually they make their way to the zombies 1:43:19.840 --> 1:43:25.360 headquarters where Where ogre Fights. Golum NOW i think they 1:43:25.400 --> 1:43:26.360 have some kind of history. 1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:29.320 Together oh, yeah surely. SO i don't know that we're 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:31.639 really privy to it, all but, yeah these these these 1:43:31.640 --> 1:43:34.000 two are well aware of each. Other so, yeah we 1:43:34.040 --> 1:43:36.800 get this wonderful fight Between ogre And, goluin Between Fred 1:43:36.800 --> 1:43:40.320 williamson And George, eastman which my only complaint is the. 1:43:40.400 --> 1:43:42.400 Short it's a short. Fight it doesn't take up a 1:43:42.400 --> 1:43:45.160 lot of screen, time but what you get is. Fun 1:43:45.560 --> 1:43:47.920 it feels it feels very. Stiff, AGAIN i don't know 1:43:48.000 --> 1:43:50.160 that these guys were actually punching each. Other i'm just saying. 1:43:50.240 --> 1:43:54.640 It it feels violent and uh and it ends. Up 1:43:55.280 --> 1:43:57.839 it ends in a VERY i, thought it's definitely a quality. 1:43:57.920 --> 1:44:01.800 Kill so we have this great sequence Where golum has 1:44:01.840 --> 1:44:05.200 a knife and he's coming At ogre with it And 1:44:06.000 --> 1:44:09.080 ogre like counters and like puts him in a hammer 1:44:09.120 --> 1:44:12.240 lock holding the knife and then plunges his head through 1:44:12.439 --> 1:44:14.880 a pane of glass and we get The we cut 1:44:14.880 --> 1:44:18.400 to the shot outside and seeing his bloody, Face eastman's 1:44:18.400 --> 1:44:21.439 bloody face coming through the, glass and then again the. 1:44:21.520 --> 1:44:24.880 Dagger hen still in a hammer. Lock he then Stabs 1:44:25.920 --> 1:44:29.599 gollum in the, back and so Now golam is dead 1:44:29.800 --> 1:44:31.679 And ogre is. Victorious pretty. 1:44:31.680 --> 1:44:34.400 Great you can always Tell georgiesman likes to get his 1:44:34.479 --> 1:44:38.760 face bloodied up in a. Movie, yeah, yeah so, yeah 1:44:38.800 --> 1:44:42.519 it gets the glass. Cuts but, okay so That's golum Versus. 1:44:42.640 --> 1:44:45.400 Ogre ogre. Wins we're about to get another big show 1:44:45.439 --> 1:44:50.479 down Because trash freeze and from her. Chains but then 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:54.160 we get a confrontation Between trash And, ice and Now 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:58.880 trash learn has learned That ice is a. Trader they 1:44:58.880 --> 1:45:02.080 have a good confrontation where at First ice tries to 1:45:02.120 --> 1:45:03.760 talk his way out of, it but then he like 1:45:03.800 --> 1:45:06.439 pulls a dirty fight. Move he like tries to Surprise 1:45:06.600 --> 1:45:10.040 trash and hit him with. Something yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:45:09.680 --> 1:45:11.760 Because prior to, that he's, LIKE i did this all for, You, 1:45:11.840 --> 1:45:14.120 Trash Like i've been setting this up for. You this 1:45:14.280 --> 1:45:18.400 is to ensure your rule. Man but when that lie, 1:45:18.479 --> 1:45:20.840 fails he's, Like i'm just gonna kick you with the. Spike, 1:45:21.080 --> 1:45:23.800 yeah but In trash is too good of a fighter for. 1:45:23.840 --> 1:45:26.679 That that's, Right Trash. WENDSY i think he Throws ice 1:45:26.720 --> 1:45:28.880 into a pit that's got spikes at the, bottom And 1:45:29.040 --> 1:45:31.679 ice is impaled on this big on this big spike 1:45:31.720 --> 1:45:32.160 going through his. 1:45:32.200 --> 1:45:35.879 Guts there's a lot of really good like fall stunts 1:45:35.880 --> 1:45:38.720 in this, picture people plunging from heights Where i'm like 1:45:38.720 --> 1:45:40.280 that that looked that looked pretty. 1:45:40.320 --> 1:45:44.240 High, yeah all, right So anne has been, rescued the 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:47.240 main bad guys have been. Defeated it seems we Defeated 1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:51.360 we Defeated ice The, Trader we defeated the bad guy 1:45:51.360 --> 1:45:55.519 who ran the, zombies and our, Heroes trash And anne An. 1:45:55.560 --> 1:45:58.320 Ogre they can all go back to The tigers headquarters 1:45:58.320 --> 1:46:01.280 and just chill, right hang. Out everything things, good but 1:46:01.360 --> 1:46:03.240 it was not to. Be we get a tragic. 1:46:03.360 --> 1:46:07.040 Ending, yeah that's, right because it is Finally hammer. Time 1:46:08.360 --> 1:46:14.240 hammer arrives with just an assault, team just, choppers, horses. 1:46:14.360 --> 1:46:17.439 Flamethrowers hammer at this point is as we alluded to, 1:46:17.560 --> 1:46:22.080 earlier just like full black. Leather Police CHIEF m bison mode, 1:46:22.120 --> 1:46:29.719 here just total fascist enforcer murder murder. Cop he is laughing. 1:46:29.800 --> 1:46:34.080 Monighacally he's no longer this independent contractor bounty, hunter like 1:46:34.120 --> 1:46:38.040 he is like the the the institution of of of 1:46:38.120 --> 1:46:42.080 government violence. Itself and this this is just a bonker sequence, 1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:46.679 Too like there are flamethrower users on. Horseback these guys 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:50.839 are on horseback using, flamethrowers which it's. 1:46:50.720 --> 1:46:52.000 Kind of, Ridiculous, yeah kind of. 1:46:52.080 --> 1:46:55.680 Ridiculous but also these flamethrower throwers look really. Nasty it's 1:46:55.720 --> 1:47:00.600 really Really, yeah it's it's certainly disturbing and, effective and 1:47:00.640 --> 1:47:01.400 they just start killing. 1:47:01.439 --> 1:47:05.200 Everybody And, hammer by the, way is like standing up 1:47:05.320 --> 1:47:08.439 in this upper floor while watching all of this carnage 1:47:08.439 --> 1:47:12.160 In mayhem and just laughing maniacally like ha ha ha, ha, 1:47:12.520 --> 1:47:18.280 yes all the. Death at one point he, Says hammer 1:47:18.320 --> 1:47:20.680 Says hammer Is god And god Is. 1:47:20.720 --> 1:47:26.240 Hammer, yeah definitely some delusions of grandeur. Here, yeah so 1:47:26.640 --> 1:47:29.160 it's it's again you, said it's a tragic ending because 1:47:29.200 --> 1:47:32.280 in the midst of all this, violence all the characters we, Like, 1:47:32.479 --> 1:47:36.280 yeah everyone that we like. Dies ogre. Dies, yeah he 1:47:36.320 --> 1:47:40.080 really gets to milk that death sequence. Though so so that's, good, 1:47:40.240 --> 1:47:45.160 good good scene, there solid, stuff and then Unfortunately anna 1:47:45.280 --> 1:47:49.439 dies as, well she's. Shot but in the midst of, 1:47:49.439 --> 1:47:53.600 this Luckily trash does get to Defeat. Hammer hammer is 1:47:53.640 --> 1:47:56.360 still on the upper. Floor he like fires a grappling 1:47:56.400 --> 1:47:59.400 hook into him and pulls him down and he falls 1:47:59.400 --> 1:48:01.519 to his, death and then he drags him behind his 1:48:01.600 --> 1:48:05.479 motorcycle through the streets of The. Bronx and, that believe 1:48:05.479 --> 1:48:07.559 it or, not is the ending to the. 1:48:07.600 --> 1:48:10.920 Movie, yeah the, Hero, trash the only character we like 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:14.480 who's still, alive kills the bad guy with a grappling 1:48:14.520 --> 1:48:17.240 hook and drags his body behind his motorcycle is the 1:48:17.360 --> 1:48:20.479 ending of the. Movie and by the, Way anne's last 1:48:20.520 --> 1:48:24.240 line where she's like dying In trash's arms is remember 1:48:24.360 --> 1:48:25.840 we in The bronx live with. 1:48:26.000 --> 1:48:31.519 DEATH i think he's gonna remember. It, Yeah so you, 1:48:31.560 --> 1:48:34.560 know at this, point The bronx is like entirely destabilized 1:48:34.640 --> 1:48:37.640 from all of, This like all the major players except 1:48:37.920 --> 1:48:40.639 For trash have been. Killed we don't get a sense 1:48:40.680 --> 1:48:43.559 That trash even wants to take the reins and become 1:48:43.640 --> 1:48:46.200 like the New king of The bronx or even continue 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:51.280 to run the. Riders so, yeah it seems like a 1:48:51.280 --> 1:48:54.320 pretty bleak ending doesn't leave us a lot of, hope 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:57.320 though we might hold out some hope that one Day 1:48:57.439 --> 1:48:59.120 trash will escape The. 1:48:59.120 --> 1:49:00.880 Bronx is that what we're doing next? 1:49:00.880 --> 1:49:03.800 WEEK i THINK i think we'll we should take a 1:49:03.840 --> 1:49:05.720 break and maybe we'll come back to. 1:49:05.760 --> 1:49:09.479 It though this was so much fun for. Sure, okay 1:49:09.520 --> 1:49:13.840 well that is nineteen Ninety The Bronx. Warriors it is 1:49:13.880 --> 1:49:15.360 what it. Is but it is pretty. 1:49:15.400 --> 1:49:18.639 Great, yeah so, yeah we'll go and close it. Out 1:49:18.640 --> 1:49:20.200 but we'd love to hear from everyone out. There i'd 1:49:20.280 --> 1:49:22.639 especially love as, Always i'd love to hear from anyone 1:49:22.680 --> 1:49:24.720 who watched this back in the. 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