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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Catch John Bachelor weeknights from nine till midnight on sevent ten.

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Speaker 2: Woor Now it's The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody starts right now here on The Clay and Buck Show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and we've got much to discuss

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Speaker 2: as always. The Manhattan District Attorney, I'm gonna be in

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Speaker 2: Manhattan next week for a couple of days. Manhattan District

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Speaker 2: Attorney says that he is himself fearful of crime on

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Speaker 2: the New York City subway system.

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Speaker 3: It's which Clay and I both want to say.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should find somebody who can do something about that,

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Speaker 2: mister District Attorney. I don't know, maybe somebody should step

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Speaker 2: up and clean up the crime on the largest subway

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Speaker 2: system in the United States. We've also got CNN apologizing

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Speaker 2: for misgendering trans influencer Dylan mulvaney. This is fascinating because

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Speaker 2: now you have I know it might seem a little

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Speaker 2: bit like who cares, but now you have journalistic theoretically

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Speaker 2: journalistic enterprises apologizing for being accurate, which is that's a

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Speaker 2: sign of something that is not good my friends. Also,

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Speaker 2: Clay put out a RFK Junior versus Mitt Romney poll

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you a little bit about the

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Speaker 2: results of that. Also, third party possibility among the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: and it effectively would hand the presidency to the Republican.

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Speaker 3: Front runner right now, Donald J.

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Speaker 2: Trump. So the third party possibility is something that we

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Speaker 2: are going to spend some time on. The polling with

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Speaker 2: that shows RFK Junior not going away in terms of

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Speaker 2: at least attention and support from a pretty sizable chunk

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Speaker 2: of Democrats and some independence and even some even some Republicans.

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Speaker 2: So we'll discuss all that one to definitely get you

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Speaker 2: in on that one too. Remember it's eight hundred two

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Speaker 2: A two two eight eight two and Clay, Clay, I

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Speaker 2: did we We nailed this one right, Like I think

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Speaker 2: we were both very clear on this. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: definitely remember saying they have the same crack team of

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Speaker 2: investigators looking at the bag of cocaine in the White

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Speaker 2: House that they had on the leak from the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court Dobbs decision, the leak of the General Flynn transcript

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Speaker 2: under the Trump administration. I don't know what else we

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Speaker 2: put in there. But they're they just you know, the

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Speaker 2: they told us Today they come out with sorry, guys,

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Speaker 2: secret Service has no idea who left a baggie of

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Speaker 2: cocaine in what is supposed to be the most secure

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Speaker 3: Building, perhaps in the world world.

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Speaker 2: Certainly in the United States, the White House, right next

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Speaker 2: to the Situation Room. The fix is in clay, just

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Speaker 2: like it was for Hunter all along on the tax

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Speaker 2: returns and everything else.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I don't care about people using cocaine.

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Speaker 1: I understand some of you out there, like, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I am of the opinion that if you are an

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Speaker 4: adult and you want to do things, even if sometimes

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Speaker 4: they are on the bounds of legality, I just I

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Speaker 4: don't care, right, I understand some of you disagree, Go

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Speaker 4: that's fine, but let's leave aside. So I'm not even

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Speaker 4: focused on the morality angle of the drug use, okay,

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Speaker 4: because I just I really don't care. I think it's

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Speaker 4: significant if it's Hunter. I think it's significant if it's

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Speaker 4: someone who is advising the president and is an addict.

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Speaker 4: But what I am far more concerned about is this.

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Speaker 4: Let me lay out exactly what happened. They found this

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Speaker 4: cocaine a supposedly highly secure area of the White House,

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Speaker 4: and they shut down the entire White House because they

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Speaker 4: were concerned it was anthrax and it might be a

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Speaker 4: terror attack. What the Secret Service is telling all of us,

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Speaker 4: buck is if someone was an unknown terrorist, undercover terrorist,

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Speaker 4: they could walk into the White House and they could

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Speaker 4: spread anthrax and we would never be able to figure

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Speaker 4: out who that was. So if that is true, can.

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Speaker 3: I put your mind to her though? Can I put

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Speaker 3: your mind at ease about this?

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Speaker 2: It's not that they couldn't figure out who would leave

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Speaker 2: the anthrax, then they would probably want to figure it out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: They don't want to figure this one out. This is

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Speaker 1: Who would do ill to the residents of the White House.

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Speaker 4: If it is true that we have such a securitized

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Speaker 4: a major, massive investigation into how that would be possible.

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Speaker 4: So that's point one. I agree with you, Buck. I

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Speaker 4: I would say that's different than what you said is

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Speaker 4: I actually I keep having too much faith in basic

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Speaker 4: human decency I know, and keep getting disappointed time after

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Speaker 4: time because I thought, at a minimum, they would trot

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Speaker 4: out some twenty five year old and say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: this is insert name here guy or girl. He or

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Speaker 4: do that. So I keep getting upset at my expectations,

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Speaker 4: rising to my low expectations and even giving me a

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Speaker 1: I expected a lie.

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Speaker 4: I expected a fall guy or fall girl for them

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Speaker 4: to just come out and say, oh, we can't figure

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Speaker 1: Fuck.

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Speaker 4: They're still putting Grandmas in prison for walking across into

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Speaker 4: the Capitol and taking a selfie. They've been investigating it

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Speaker 4: for two years now. There's still people being arrested for

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Speaker 4: taking selfies in the Capitol. On January sixth, and they

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Speaker 4: can't get around to actually figuring out who brought a

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Speaker 4: in the United States. It's unacceptable. And I hope, and

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Speaker 4: this is what I hope. I hope that all of

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Speaker 4: these things adding up are registering with middle of the

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Speaker 4: the hypocrisy is starting to add up.

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Speaker 3: So I have two things for you.

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Speaker 2: Uh One is, yes, jump into the toxic swamp of

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Speaker 2: endless cynicism when it comes to anything involving the Biden regime,

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Speaker 2: anything involving any institution of our government. There is nothing

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Speaker 2: that they are unwilling to corrupt or that is incorruptible

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the power of this regime, Like,

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Speaker 2: there's no whether it's the Supreme Court or it's the

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Speaker 4: They won't just say this, no, no, I the Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court leaker should have been caught. I can understand easier

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Speaker 4: how the Supreme Court leaker could get away with it

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Speaker 4: than whoever brought the cocaine to the White House.

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Speaker 2: In this instance. Put aside whether they're DNA or fingerprints

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Speaker 2: I mean, this person wasn't They're not a cat burglary.

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Speaker 2: They're not, you know, coming in through the skylight to

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Speaker 2: steal the Hope diamond. Like, I don't think they were

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Speaker 4: By the way, should be should be assigned. Something's afoot.

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Speaker 4: If somebody walked into the White House with latex gloves on,

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Speaker 2: You know, that's weird to me, Yeah, weird. You just

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Speaker 2: tell everybody though you're still afraid of COVID. I'm only

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Speaker 2: on shot number six, but I would I would throw

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Speaker 2: in there this as well. We had a lot of

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Speaker 2: oh this, I'm just this food for thought. Okay, point one,

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Speaker 2: The endless cynicism that we should all approach anything involving

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Speaker 2: Just just that's got to be baked in for everybody.

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Speaker 2: And keep that in mind for twenty twenty four, keep

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Speaker 2: were saying, see, Buck, this is how they're gonna push

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Speaker 2: I say, okay, well, if you thought that this was

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, what this really is is the system

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Speaker 2: protecting the Biden White House at some level, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: This is a secret service knowing that there's a decent

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Speaker 2: think they view the Biden apparatus as as important and

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Speaker 2: something that they will protect, even at the expense of

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Speaker 2: just common sense. That everyone looks at this and goes,

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Speaker 2: come on man, really like this is a come on

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Speaker 3: But I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Okay, for don't you think every single White House employee

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Speaker 4: should have to get tested for cocaine as as a baseline?

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Speaker 4: I think that's a reasonable thing to do at this point.

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Speaker 4: And I would just say this book, like the idea

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Speaker 4: also troubled if it's not a plant, in other words,

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Speaker 1: The person who would have.

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Speaker 4: Left a baggie of cocaine in a highly securitized area

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Speaker 4: of the White House unintentionally would have to be a

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Speaker 4: drug addict, right, Because if you are of sound mind,

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Speaker 4: this buck is if someone accidentally left cocaine in the

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Speaker 4: White House. They are probably an addict. Why would we

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Speaker 4: would trouble me in general, because the one thing that

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Speaker 4: you would want, regardless of politics, is people of sound

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Speaker 4: the White House, Right, I mean, you agree with me.

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Speaker 4: If you accidentally leave cocaine, you have got.

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Speaker 1: Some major issues going on. Does that make sense to you?

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Speaker 2: Like that that was the place was kind of I'll

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Speaker 2: be honest, you know, the place was the White House

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Speaker 2: was kind of a pharmacy back when JFK was was

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Speaker 2: the president. So this isn't the first time I was

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Speaker 2: tying that people have been taking and who knows what

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Speaker 2: we think under the Bill Clinton presidency, there wasn't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we know there was all kinds of stuff going on there.

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Speaker 2: I think that your point about this person being an addict,

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Speaker 2: I said along, I didn't believe that it was Hunter

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Speaker 2: because there are some levels of insanity that I think

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Speaker 2: are even too much for a hunter. Now, I might

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Speaker 2: Sorry, we just can't figure out, can't.

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Speaker 2: The investigation's not gonna get our guy or gal, so

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Speaker 4: That's not cocaine, it's gold bond is a hell of

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Speaker 1: Well, isn't that what they did? A?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is not for me to snort and get high.

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Speaker 2: I just trading. It was trading places they put they

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Speaker 2: I have a general, a general proposition that I'd like

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Speaker 2: stupidity and incompetence is more often the answer than conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: Like so you're saying about how how could all these

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Speaker 4: Into stupidity, usually stupidity though there is a rational basis

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Speaker 1: To me, it feels like an addict thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't so I'm curious if people have theories on this,

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the chances that there's some

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Speaker 4: I think this is why I don't understand how you

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Speaker 1: Is it that high?

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Speaker 2: I mean going Clay the Libertarian, going full narc over here.

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Speaker 2: Identity theft silent, silent crimes. A lot of silent crimes

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Speaker 1: It's all out there. You know this. You see it

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Speaker 4: Fired up about the cocaine in the lighthouse thing that

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Speaker 4: You can load it up. Do you buy into my argument? Like,

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Speaker 4: I really can't stop thinking about this cocaine thing. It's

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk third party here for a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Shelly not encouraging it or or prognosticating that it will happen,

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Speaker 2: but it could happen. There's some interesting numbers here. Well,

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Speaker 2: maybe we're encouraging it. If it means that Republican's gonna win.

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Speaker 2: That's great. Depends on which third party we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: Let's just put out some interesting Clay's got some polling

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Speaker 3: There's a whole range. And this is why I meant,

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Speaker 1: I think RFK Junior for a lot.

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Speaker 2: we're talking about operation chaos. This is a form of chaos.

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Speaker 2: But RFK Junior doesn't say I'll back him. He could

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying the ones that are being talked about.

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Speaker 2: People gonna be like, how dare you bring up Liz Cheney,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Bernie will do it. I don't buy

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Speaker 2: I think Bernie's a Democrat who likes to pretend he's

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Speaker 2: Outright, we know he may win New Hampshire, right because

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Speaker 4: So No Labels is the most prominent third party candidacy

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Speaker 4: a Democrat on that ticket. Mansion most prominently discussed as

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Speaker 4: the third party candidate. But according to this polling, Trump

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Speaker 4: wins every swing state, and Trump would win a landslide. Now, Buck,

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Speaker 4: you remember probably, and I know a lot of our

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Speaker 4: listeners do. I remember this very well. Ross Perrot memorably

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Speaker 4: ran as a third party candidate, and I believe Buck

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Speaker 4: got nineteen percent of the vote in nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 3: Right, Ross Perrot is why Bill Clinton became president.

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Speaker 4: Correct, So there is a strong argument that this could

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Speaker 4: be the reverse of that that now if the Democrats

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Speaker 4: were to have a third party candidate, because those of

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Speaker 4: you who remember nineteen ninety two, Bill Clinton very much

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Speaker 4: encouraged Ross Perot's candidacy. I believe, and again I'm just

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Speaker 4: doing off the top of my head. I think Clinton

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Speaker 4: won in ninety two Buck with forty three percent of

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Speaker 4: the overall vote.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these less it was substantially less than half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was forty three percent of the

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Speaker 4: overall vote. You know, the Ross Paro at some point

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Speaker 4: actually led if you remember, I remember my grandparents voted

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Speaker 4: for Ross Perot back in nineteen ninety two in that election.

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Speaker 4: You know what's amazing for me is you know what

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Speaker 4: I think about Ross Puot. The thing that comes to

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Speaker 4: mind is Dana Carvey doing Ross Paro and SNL.

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Speaker 3: Can you finish? Can it finish?

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Speaker 2: Remember that's he did such a some of those This

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Speaker 2: is back when SNL actually tried to be funny. Some

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Speaker 2: of the political send ups that they did really embedded

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Speaker 2: themselves deeply in the minds of different people. But you

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Speaker 2: know the poll that I that I saw from this

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Speaker 2: is from last month So News Nation DDHQ poll forty

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Speaker 2: nine percent of and this was a poll I believe

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Speaker 2: of registered voters, forty nine percent of voters would at

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Speaker 2: least consider a third party option in a Trump Biden rematch. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: consider is not vote for obviously, but it does show

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Speaker 2: let's be honest, that there's a middle third of the

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Speaker 2: country that maybe a little more republic learning, maybe a

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Speaker 2: little more Democrat Democrat leaning, and all the way down

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Speaker 2: into independence. I think independence in general right now and

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Speaker 2: it'd be great to actually see some data on this,

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Speaker 2: So I'm just extrapolating. I think Independence are feeling like

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Speaker 2: they don't, you know, they don't have an option that's

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Speaker 2: particularly appealing to them at this moment. That could change

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Speaker 2: in a year. We'll see what Trump says, We'll see

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Speaker 2: what the other Republicans we Hey, we got vivek on

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Speaker 2: later today, we got everybody comes on this show on

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Speaker 2: the right. But right now there's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a are we really going to do this all over again?

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Speaker 2: Mentality for Independence, And I think that's why you're seeing

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Speaker 2: such an open lane for.

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Speaker 3: The third party.

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Speaker 2: It could shut down, it could close, but right now

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Speaker 2: the numbers suggest otherwise.

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Speaker 4: Frankly, I think there's a lot of people who are

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Speaker 4: not enamored of a rematch who were Republicans and Democrats too, right,

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Speaker 4: I think, And I think a large mart part of

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Speaker 4: it is age. I think I would bet seventy percent

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Speaker 4: of Americans right now think that both Trump and Biden

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Speaker 4: are too old. Now I think thirty percent are like,

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Speaker 4: I'm all in on Trump. I think there's almost nobody

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Speaker 4: who was all in on Biden. We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 4: Biden does not have anyone who actually likes him, and

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Speaker 4: and he won as the anti Trump, right but just

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Speaker 4: put it this way, do you ever see a Biden sign?

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Speaker 4: Do you ever see somebody walking around in a Biden

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Speaker 4: T shirt? I wouldn't even say he's been the people

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Speaker 4: who actually like him. I wouldn't even say necessarily he's

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Speaker 4: the anti Trump.

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Speaker 2: He's just he's the not Trump, which I'm it's similar

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Speaker 2: but slightly different as a just a not Trump candidate,

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Speaker 2: right Like, he wasn't particularly effective and attacking Trump. He

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Speaker 2: just was the Democrat that they picked. And if you remember,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we keep this in mind too, at this

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Speaker 2: know what are we six seven months out from you know,

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Speaker 2: when the real votes start coming in seven months out right,

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Speaker 2: you don't know very much about where this is all heading.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden was kind of a kind of a joke candidate,

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Speaker 2: it seemed he was in two thousand and eight. Initially,

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Speaker 2: everyone forget he was like a three percent guy, four

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Speaker 2: percent guy. He was not high when Obama actually ended

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Speaker 2: up winning in two thousand and eight. And if you

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Speaker 2: look at how it started in the Democrat primary, he

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Speaker 2: was I think early on, if memory serves, I'm just

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Speaker 2: looking trying to think of how it was. There were

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Speaker 2: a lot of Democrat candidates. He was like a middle

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Speaker 2: tier guy by the polls, and then it all turned around.

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Speaker 2: It really looked for a moment like it was going

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Speaker 2: to be Bernie.

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Speaker 3: You remember that.

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Speaker 2: And I actually thought that would have been great for

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Speaker 2: the country to see Trump against Bernie, because Bernie says

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Speaker 2: the things that Democrats really believe on a whole range

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Speaker 2: of issues. Joe Biden is the slimy salesman who pretends

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Speaker 2: to be something he's not.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: At least with Bernie you'd get the authentic, full blown communism.

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Speaker 4: Now. Yeah, not only that, Buck. There was actually a

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Speaker 4: lot of discussion about Bloomberg or Biden, and I think

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Speaker 4: if James Clyburn had come out and said Bloomberg is

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Speaker 4: my guy, I think Bloomberg would have been the nominee.

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Speaker 4: But and and you know this, Bloomberg's brain actually works.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he would have been a billion times better

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Speaker 4: I think as president than Joe Biden has been because

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Speaker 4: Bloomberg used to be a Republican. I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: he's somewhat rational in many thought processes that he has.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, they looked at it and they said this

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Speaker 4: was pre COVID. Remember they put the fix in before

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Speaker 4: COVID happened. Everybody forgets Biden got smoked in Iowa. He

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Speaker 4: got smoked. I think he came in sixth in New

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Speaker 4: Hampshire and fifth in Iowa, something like that.

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Speaker 1: Not even in the time.

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Speaker 2: He was basically middle middle of the big Democrat pack

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Speaker 2: early on, and he.

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Speaker 4: Left and came to South Carolina and James Clyburn said

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Speaker 4: you're my pick, and then it was over. And I

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Speaker 4: think Clyburn looked at the available candidates. He said Bernie

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Speaker 4: would lose. I'm talking as if I was Cliburn. He said,

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Speaker 4: Bernie would lose to Trump because he's too far left wing.

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Speaker 4: And remember black people also don't like Bernie. He never

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Speaker 4: had any appeal in the minority community, he said. And

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Speaker 4: again I'm talking as Cliburn. Nobody is no Black people

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Speaker 4: are voting for Mayor Pete.

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Speaker 1: He's gay.

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Speaker 4: Let's be honest. That was the calculus and that's still

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Speaker 4: the calculus. Why I think Mayor Pete is nobody'll even

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Speaker 4: talk about this. Mayor Pete is never going to be

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Speaker 4: president because black guys are not voting for a gay

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Speaker 4: white guy to be president of the United States. They're

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Speaker 4: not going to do it. Nobody will talk about it

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Speaker 4: because you're not supposed to be homophobic. Black dudes aren't

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Speaker 4: voting for a gay white guy to be president of

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Speaker 4: the United States as a group. And then so you

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Speaker 4: run through Elizabeth Warren is a joke too far left wing.

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Speaker 4: And I really think Clyburn came down to Bloomberg or Biden,

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Speaker 4: and he took Biden, and Biden's the president because of

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Speaker 4: James Clyburn.

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Speaker 3: Let's take some.

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Speaker 2: Calls on all this, folks, the third party situation curious

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Speaker 2: would any of you consider I mean, we got Republicans

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Speaker 2: almost we got some Democrats independence listened to the show.

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Speaker 3: I was love. I get an email.

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Speaker 2: It's don't you think it's funny when you get the

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We love it.

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Speaker 4: Always trying to persuade Buck. I think every single day

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Speaker 4: when I wake up, I mean, this is my whole

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Speaker 4: book that's coming out next month. How do we get

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Speaker 4: back to normalcy in the country? How do we get

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Speaker 4: back to sandy? You have to persuade the persuadable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not by indicting the leading Republican presidential candidate

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Speaker 2: and former press That's probably not how we get back

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Speaker 2: to sanity's it just does a preview. But we'll get

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Speaker 4: you were an NYPD narcotics detective, so you probably had

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Speaker 4: the cocaine in to the White House, your reaction is

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Speaker 4: what all?

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Speaker 5: Right, my opinion, right to the point they changed their protocols,

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Speaker 5: and that could be very simply no drug sniffing dog

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Speaker 5: That's number one. They changed their policy or the protocol

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Speaker 5: as to what kind of search do they scan or not.

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Speaker 5: That's another point. How it got there very easy. He's

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Speaker 5: a desperate individual, most these addicts are. They'll get it

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Speaker 5: he secured that knarcotic on a child. He came in

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Speaker 5: Are they going to search that trial or are they

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Speaker 5: going to go in a diaper and work for something?

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Speaker 5: Then not? And then as they were walking past, going

658
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 5: to whatever location he was going. It fell out, that

659
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 5: fell out out of the child. Make then when Hunter

660
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: was gone and passed that secure location, they came to

661
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: drug snapping dog. And this way they can say, oh yeah,

662
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: we uh we send a dog down there. Whatever. But

663
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 5: it's easy. Hunters on his way in, Okay, secure the location,

664
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: you know, move the dog somewhere else. Very easy. I

665
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: bet he put it on a child. That's how it's

666
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 5: getting in.

667
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: So he used a child as in effect as the

668
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: drug mule here and that would get around the procedures. Brian,

669
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: thank you for calling in. Always great to hear.

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Speaker 4: Sweet by the way, Yeah, I was just gonna ask

671
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: if the if the drug is left right, somebody takes

672
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: the drug out and leaves it. In your experience, if

673
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 4: somebody unintentionally left it there, I mean, maybe you're right,

674
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 4: maybeybe it comes in on a kid, maybe there's concern

675
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: about a dog. Somebody just drops it there. Do drug addicts?

676
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: I mean, most people, if they had something they knew

677
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: was an illegal narcotic, would be super protective of that

678
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: and would not want to just drop it.

679
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: Right.

680
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: If you're an addict, is the thought process different? How

681
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: you think it's Hunter obviously, based on your analysis, is

682
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: an addict behavior different in that way? Not behaving rationally?

683
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 5: Absolutely? I mean you're desperate, you want that drug. You'll

684
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: go to any with, you know, any way you can

685
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: to get it in and use it. Now, could it

686
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: very well be that somebody else is a drug advicted whatever.

687
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: But if they changed their protocols, they just did it

688
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 5: for certain people. They didn't do it for everybody. I

689
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: guarantee that, I bet you they didn't do that. Just

690
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 5: can't say guarantee, but changing the protocols for certain people,

691
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 5: and then they would have nailed whoever it was coming through.

692
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 5: There would have been a dog there, and then a

693
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 5: person who might have been addicted wouldn't have gotten an end.

694
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Speaker 5: Would a lift the White House for a no reason

695
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 5: and do it somewhere else? D ran despiration that you're bad,

696
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 5: you're in a bad way that you try and secure

697
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: that into the White House.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, sir for calling in. You know, Clay.

699
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: The fact that we're not getting ever it seems an

700
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: answer does add to the Hunter Biden likelihood. I will

701
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: say that, like if I was willing to entertain maybe

702
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna trot out some twenty six year old staffer,

703
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But now it starts to

704
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: feel a little more. I knew they weren't gonna get

705
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: an answer. Most likely it certainly if it id do

706
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: with Hunter. So I'm trying to square all of this.

707
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to, you know, go go around and close

708
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: the loop.

709
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: And not only that, Buck Hunter, remember, has to be

710
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: drug tested for two years or he could go to

711
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: prison under his plea agreement. How much is the plea

712
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: agreement thrown into question if suddenly they're like, oh it

713
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 4: was why.

714
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: It is the most reckless and insane thing imaginable. But

715
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: to the to the point being made by our veteran

716
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 2: detective friend, there a moment ago addicts do crazy things.

717
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why I think this likely was Hunter's,

718
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: because that's where everything points, right,