1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: We are now told there is no Epstein list, there's 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: no foreign power behind what he did. There's nothing, nobody 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: on the list. Records weren't kept. It's almost as if 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. It really makes you wonder how powerful 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: are the people behind the list if even into this administration, 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: we've got now have Cash Betel and Dan Bongino saying 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: there is no list, there is no conspiracy. He killed himself. 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Stop talking about it. Then why is Gilan Maxwell in prison? 9 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: There is no list, there are no clients. If there 10 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: are no clients, there is no crime. Yet Gilan max 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Well sits in prison. Wow, really puts into perspective how 12 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: powerful the people are behind all of this, doesn't it. 13 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: It really puts it into perspective. Officials say the death 14 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: toll from the floods now stands at one oh four. 15 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Camp Mystic says they lost twenty seven councilors and campers, 16 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: mostly campers to the floodwaters, but there are ten campers 17 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: and one councilor still missing. Pat Green's wife announcing on 18 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: social media that his brother's family had perished in the floods. 19 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: It's incredible. I mean, I guess it shouldn't be how 20 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: interconnected our people are in how many people people I 21 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: have come to learn we're affected in one way or another, 22 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: much as you have between all the between the things 23 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: we've done in our lives, and our spouse have done 24 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: in their lives, and our kids have done in their lives, 25 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: you create quite an intricate social network, even if you 26 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: don't see those people often are seemingly ever they like pinballs, 27 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: bounce through your life and you know them or you 28 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: know their siblings. That's a rather intricate web when you 29 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: get done to it. It also goes to show how 30 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: many people from the Greater Houston area, although I know 31 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: people from other parts of the state were there as well, 32 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: But it goes to show how many people in the 33 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: Greater Houston area send their kids to camps in that area, 34 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: and a number of folks I know who did manage 35 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: to get out in time were simply there, renting houses 36 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: or owning houses and floating the river and enjoying July fourth, 37 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: because there would have been big plans for July fourth. 38 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Coming up. 39 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: The story of the rescue swimmer Scott Ruskin, which we 40 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday, who is a coasty as they call it, 41 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: and I have heard from folks in other branches of 42 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: the military, and those guys rib each other. They never 43 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: give each other their fair due. And they say those 44 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: coasty rescue swimmers are a special breed. It's one of 45 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: the greatest groups of the military, that particular specialization that. 46 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: You've never heard before. 47 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: Apparently their motto is so others may live. Did not 48 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: know that, but I had a number of folks reach 49 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: out to me after we talked about Scott Ruskin yesterday. 50 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: Here it is so others may live. Often overlooked, a 51 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: completely different breed, nothing but respect. Those men and women 52 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: live by a deep and simple motto, so others may live, 53 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: grateful for his service and sacrifice. You know how many 54 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: people were saved, how many people were rescued. When my 55 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: wife first. 56 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: Told me, I didn't think that was possible. 57 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: I was. 58 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: Real miracles occur by Robert F. 59 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: Kenny. 60 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: These children speak Chinese and Battish. One of the cabins 61 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: at Camp Mystic is known as the Wiggle in all 62 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: had I think when was the bubble in? You know, 63 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: had little cute see names as you'd imagine. It's for 64 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: little girls. I saw a post that was then screenshot 65 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: and sent to me by people asking me to track 66 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: down who it was, and I already knew They said 67 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: it was to other moms, I suppose. So the children 68 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: and wiggle In with Hazel were kept safe by an 69 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: individual who works night security at camp missed it. This 70 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: guy came out to their cabin after the dam broke 71 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: and kept them inside, floating on mattresses until their heads 72 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: hit the ceiling before the water receded. The parents of 73 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: wiggle In or in search of this guy, but all 74 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: we've been able to gather is his name is Glenn 75 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: and he works night security from ten pm to three am, 76 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: sometimes helps grill burgers for the girls. He's also very tall, 77 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: with gray hair, and possibly a retired law enforcement officer. 78 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: If anyone has info and willing to pass it along, 79 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: please dm me. We want to make sure we can 80 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: thank him properly for saving our children. Understandable, right, I 81 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: wanted to thank the man who turned out to be 82 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: Eric Donaldson who saved my parents, my parents, my wife 83 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: and kids. 84 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: When I couldn't get back from Baton. 85 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: Rouge because the road was flooded, so they held me 86 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: at belt Way eight and I couldn't get a call 87 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: from my wife because she had tucked the phone in 88 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: and they were wading out and shoulder deep water to 89 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: get to safety. I thought I did the right thing. 90 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: I put them in the Omni Hotel, which I figured 91 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: if nothing else would be safe in the Omni Hotel. 92 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: The water can't rise that high. Well, those bastards at 93 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the Omni Hotel at Memorial should be hanged because they 94 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: knew at every time there's a storm, that hotel goes 95 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: under every time, and their generator is lower than ground level. 96 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: It's almost as if they tried to put their generator 97 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: in a spot where when the water rose, it would 98 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: go out. 99 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: They could have lifted the generator. 100 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: It would have cost a few bucks, but they could 101 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: have done it while my wife and kids were there. 102 00:06:54,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: The athletic director, gym director pass because what's the long story? 103 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: She passed, and but for an amazing kitchen staff that 104 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: continued to operate and dig through and find food for 105 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: the residents who could not get out of the building. 106 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: There was no exit from the building. I shuddered to 107 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: think how bad it could have been, and it was bad, 108 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: but I wanted to track down and it took me 109 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: a while. 110 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: Y'all help me. 111 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: The fellow who had in his boat gone around and 112 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: picked people up, and yeah, had a good hug with him. 113 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Came to the RCC who stayed in touch over the years, 114 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: and that was a nice thing. Just as I wanted 115 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: to track down the guy who saved my dad when 116 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: my dad had a diabetic went into a diabetic shock 117 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of the highway and his car was 118 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: rolling along because he had taken his foot off the 119 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: break and he was in a state of shock and 120 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: probably would have died. It took me a while, but 121 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I tracked him down. 122 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: I can understand that. 123 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: I can understand wanting to track this fellow down, and 124 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 1: they did. 125 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: This is what he posted. 126 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Dear wiggle in parents, I'm overwhelmed with gratitude for those 127 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: of you who reached out to me today. The tragic 128 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: event at Camp Mystic events have left a deep mark 129 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: on all of us, but they also gave me the 130 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to spend sacred time with your daughters. Each and 131 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: every one of those sweet girls endured unimaginable moments with 132 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: incredible bravery in the midst of the storm. Cold, In 133 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: the midst of the storm, cold, wet and frightened showed 134 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: remarkable faith and trust in me as we worked to 135 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: stay safe together. Inside their cabin, we shared a long, 136 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: difficult night that I will never forget. I'm so proud 137 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: of them and the strength they showed. I look forward 138 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: to the chance to meet each of you in person 139 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: and wrap your amazing daughter in a big, heartfelt hug 140 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: with deeper and love. 141 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: Glynn. He is a retired law enforcement officer. 142 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: It's not my job to give you his last name, 143 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: but I knew him when the first year I got 144 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: on city council, when he was still very actively an 145 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: HPD officer. This fella rut here, Scott Ruskin deserves the 146 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: highest honor. He deserves the nation's praise. Scott Ruskin. It's 147 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna be clip number ten. Jim Here. He is talking 148 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: about trying to be the voice of calm as he 149 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: saved all these people. 150 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, just a lot a lot of people looking very scared, 151 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: very tired, cold, missing loved ones, probably terrified, honestly, And 152 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: I was just trying to be a voice to calm 153 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: and trioge these people and get them the safety as 154 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: soon as you. 155 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: Could tell me how difficult it was, you know, It's 156 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: one thing to do trioge on an adult. But the 157 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: majority of the people that you were dealing with were kids, 158 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: young girls that were frightened about what had just took place. 159 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. So a lot of them did have 160 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: some some minor injuries, nothing too serious, thankfully, at least 161 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 4: the group I was dealing with, But a lot of 162 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 4: them were just yeah again, like very scared, and uh. 163 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 4: I was just trying to console them and give them 164 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: some sort of comfort. Again, they're having probably one of 165 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: the west stands their lives, but that's just what any 166 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: Coast Guard rescue swimmer and or any Coast Guard member 167 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: would have done that situation. So I was just doing 168 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: my job. 169 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: When you first arrived here, I asked you how bad 170 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: was the water, how how bad was the current? And 171 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: you said you tried to avoid that as much as possible. 172 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 173 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. We kind of briefed as a crew prior about 174 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: my preference if I wanted to get in the water, 175 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: if I wanted to wear a wet suit or dry suit, 176 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: whatever it may be, and I kind of advocate for 177 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: myself and say, hey, I don't want to get in 178 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: this water right now. On Friday. On Friday, it was 179 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: it was pretty bad weather, pretty high flood water, and 180 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: I didn't feel comfortable getting in, and I ended up 181 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 4: just staying on land and do a lot of the 182 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: triage with the survivors. There's other crews getting in the water, 183 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: risking way more than I was getting in. They need 184 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: that recognition as well. 185 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: So, you know, a lot of people in the audience, 186 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: they don't understand the severity of the water. They don't 187 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: understand how this changed within a matter of an hour. 188 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: Can you exp someone that's experienced with the water and 189 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: understands and respects the water and the power that it has. 190 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: Can you explain to our audience the difficulty that those 191 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: kids have to deal with and they weren't experienced. 192 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: At all, right, Yeah, I mean yeah, even as a 193 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: professional rescuer, I was nervous about getting in the water. 194 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: I can't imagine how eight nine ten year olds like 195 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: these kids are heroic, like they need to get the credit. 196 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: They're the game that they need, you know, they, like 197 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: some of the camp counselors, were saving lives before we 198 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: even got there, So, I mean, without those guys, it 199 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: would be a lot worse situation. It's still very tragic, 200 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 4: but I think there definitely needs to be a lot 201 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: of heroes in praise to the survivors. They were saving themselves. 202 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: Scott Till, tell me what sticks out to you the 203 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,239 Speaker 3: most being here. I've covered a lot of school shootings 204 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: with children there. What impacts you the most being out 205 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 3: on the. 206 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: Same Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing for 207 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 4: me is a lot of these kids. They're just kids. 208 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: You know. 209 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: I was a kid once. I'm only twenty six. I 210 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: got a lot of younger family and friends, and yeah, 211 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: it's just like wow, like that could have been my 212 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: family in that situation. So I need to do as 213 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: best of a job as to help get them out 214 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: of the situation. 215 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Hero I big jump here is and I'll wear that 216 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: poor foot ditch the Michael R Show, The EVO stunt 217 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: cycle rum ideal. A priest originally from Orange. I don't 218 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: know him. I think his name is Sichko. 219 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: Father. 220 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: Sichko has offered to pay for the funerals for anyone 221 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: who died, any of the campers who died in these floods. 222 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't have further details. It was reported on by 223 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: KFDM Beaumont television station that I grew up watching I 224 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: think he's a CBS affiliate. I have ask for more details, 225 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: and I will report that when I know it. 226 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: So let's take a step back. 227 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: And have a bigger conversation about a couple of things. 228 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: Number one is and there is no right answer. There 229 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: is no right answer. I mean, this is a conversation. 230 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: Thirty six years of marriage, my wife still struggles with this. 231 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: So for me, the conversation, the journey is the value, 232 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: not the conclusion. So at what point, if at all, 233 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: is it appropriate to start talking about things questions we 234 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: may have about preparations that were made, about rescue efforts 235 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: that were made. Was every rescue effort made that was possible? 236 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: Where there are the things that could have been done? 237 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: I am not stating conclusions. I'm telling you the types 238 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: of things I've heard. One thing I heard last night's 239 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: very disturbing was a statement by the Austin Fire Union 240 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: that their chief had ordered that they weren't going to 241 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: send their rescue units. Austin's not very far away. Everybody 242 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: in the region. It was all hands on deck to 243 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: save the children and the people in this community. The 244 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Firefighters Union in Austin has stated that their fire chief 245 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: happens to be a black fellow. 246 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if that informed what he did. I 247 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: don't know. 248 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: But at what point is it the right time to 249 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: have that discussion. It differs one person. They say we 250 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: need to start immediately while the conversation is still being held, 251 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: because if you wait until it subsides and the grief 252 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: begins to subside, then by the time you're ready to 253 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: have the conversation, we've moved on. North Carolina has natural 254 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: disasters going on. You have Laguna Beach in California, natural 255 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: disaster is going on. There will be another big, beautiful bill, 256 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: there will be another major issue, there will be an 257 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: Irani terror attack, and quickly most people will move on 258 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: to the next big highlight, the next big story, the 259 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: next big crisis, because news junkies just move from one 260 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: to the next. 261 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: And there's a fatigue involved in all of this. There's 262 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: a fatigue if you're choosing to be engaged in this 263 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: story rather than it being your own daughter, or your 264 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: niece or your granddaughter. If you're choosing to be involved 265 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: with this story, it's exhausting. I don't know about you, 266 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: but the last several days I have just felt a 267 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: physical fatigue in my body from the emotions I internalized, 268 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: and I'm sure many of you did as well. And 269 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: the way you internalize that is you hear yourself saying, 270 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: you know, as a grandmother, I just imagine my little grandbaby. 271 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: As a father, I just imagine my little daughter, and 272 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: empathy on that level. 273 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Is exhausting, especially over an extended period of time. So 274 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: we engage. We engage with every text chain, with every 275 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Facebook page, with every Twitter page, with every news story, 276 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: with every behind the news story, with every mom's group, 277 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: with every dad's group, everywhere you can get information, and. 278 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: You do it with great hope. 279 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: There were some I don't know the story. I don't 280 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: want to believe that someone called in hoaxes. I don't 281 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: know what happened, But there were several cases on Sunday 282 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: afternoon where we were told that there were girls on 283 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: the way that had been rescued. We didn't have their name, 284 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: but they would be at the church shortly, and we, 285 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: like many of you know a lot of people that 286 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: were waiting at the churches and they wanted the good 287 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: news which never came, which becomes a distraction, becomes a 288 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: cruelty to the family. Actually, so in the midst of 289 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: all of this, as we do with everything else in 290 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: a self governing society, we ask questions, and there is 291 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: a very delicate balance as to win. Are those questions 292 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: appropriate to be asked? Was there cloud seating? Well, some 293 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: people will say, yeah, we know that's cloud seating. We 294 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: know they've admitted there was cloud seeting. And then there 295 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: are people will say, why are you even. 296 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: Talking about that at all. 297 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: It's a tough conversation to have, but we're going to 298 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: very delicately have a light version of that coming up. 299 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: Trying to start off with Channel thirteen had posted about 300 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: cloud seating, and now I've managed to lose where I 301 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: was reading that. I will go back to it, but 302 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: there's a bigger issue at play. So cloud seating is 303 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: usually what they use is silver iodide as I understand it, 304 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: and it is sort of injected or spread into a cloud, 305 00:18:52,600 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: and reports, official reports are that a cloud can generate 306 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: twenty four percent more rainfall. Now you know this is 307 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: sort of like saying the COVID shot doesn't work, it's 308 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: not effective. 309 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: Well, now we have. 310 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: Official reports that it wasn't effective, and that the nih 311 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't effective, and that Fauci knew it wasn't effective. 312 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: Pretty early on we had reports that they didn't have 313 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: effectiveness rates. They didn't know that it was effective. They 314 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: were hopeful, we would presume. And now we find out 315 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: that they had reports that it wasn't effective, and that 316 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: masks weren't effective as Fauci originally said, and that people 317 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: were dying from the shots who had no propensity to die. 318 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: They were not morbidly obese, or elderly or in some 319 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: way immuno compromised. People die in this country every day. 320 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: And when when you're a country this big and you 321 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: collect data as well as we do, you start noticing 322 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: how many people die of falling downstairs and all sorts 323 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: of silly things, but it adds up to be a 324 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: significant number. The number of people who die of the 325 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: flu every year is staggeringly high. But it is not 326 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: typically eighteen year old, male, lean, low body fat, active 327 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: young people, just as that was true of COVID. So 328 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: why were we having these shots injected into children, healthy people, 329 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: on and on and on. Well, we've come to find 330 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: out there were a lot of reasons, none of them noble, 331 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: none of them good, and people died from it. So 332 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: when things like this happen. The public does not trust 333 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: the institutions that when I was growing up, I'll speak 334 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: for me, we trusted, and I mean we trusted deeply. 335 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: You trusted the police, You trusted the National Institute of 336 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: Health to the extent that came up. You trusted the news. 337 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: These were noble people. This was whether a myth or 338 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: a legend. This is what we were told. There were 339 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: people who desperately wanted to bring us the truth to 340 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: the best extent they could find it. And then you 341 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: find out people lied. Trump settled with sixty Minutes or 342 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: CBS for sixteen million dollars. They canned the guy who'd 343 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: been in charge of sixty Minutes for many years. This 344 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: wasn't the only time he'd done these sorts of things. 345 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: Cheryl Atkinson spent five hours with on Us one day, 346 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: morning and evening show after her book had come out. 347 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Believe it was her second book about what they did 348 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: to her at CBS, where she was a star for 349 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: daring question the Obama administration. We see case after case 350 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: after case after case of these sorts of things, and 351 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: over a period of time, some of us lose a 352 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: great deal of trust. Some people can't handle it. It 353 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: makes some people crazy. Everybody knows that friend who's crazy. 354 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean the friend is wrong, but the friend is 355 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: not able to process and reconcile living in a world 356 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: where institutions he believed were decent we're serving the public 357 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: good and then understanding it quite the opposite, and that 358 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: there are no consequences to that person's. 359 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: Career for it. That's hard. 360 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: That's that's that's difficult. And the algorithm and the Plethoro, 361 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: the bounty of outlets of news, commentary, perspective advocacy pr 362 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: spend that's out there is that if you are inclined 363 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: to believe X, check out why. Well, if you thought 364 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: X was gonna blow your mind, why is? And then 365 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: you go to Z and then you roll over to 366 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: A and before long that person is is incapable of 367 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: conversation with people who aren't radicalized. They've got to go 368 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: to conferences in rallies because that's the only place they 369 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: can survive. They can't go to a dinner party, they 370 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: can't go fishing on the weekend. Everybody knows somebody, and 371 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: if you don't, you are that person who you can't 372 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: be around and have a normal conversation. But that doesn't 373 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: mean that person is wrong. That doesn't mean that their 374 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: opinions on most, if not all, issues are necessarily wrong. 375 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: It just means that it was so hard for them 376 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: to process it that they can think of nothing else. 377 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: They become zealots. And you find yourself, or let me say, 378 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: I find myself. You may find yourself feeling yes, yes 379 00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: you're right, but you're gonna make me kill myself. You've 380 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: got to stop talking to me, at least about that 381 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: I have coping techniques, not that I am a soldier 382 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: in battle. I'm not saying I am. I'm making an analogy. 383 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Some people have difficulty making that lead. Soldiers in battle 384 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: play cards at night. They use drugs, They go visit brothels, 385 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: they haze each other, they do any number of other 386 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: things to get their mind off of the war. There 387 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: are people who become so obsessed with the various stories 388 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: floating and understandably so that they become incapable. It becomes 389 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: an addiction, and it destroys people, and social media ends 390 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: up being a place that for those people. They can 391 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: destroy their careers, They can alienate everyone they love who 392 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: loved them. They can make themselves into an absolute monster 393 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: that they once were not. 394 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: You gotta be careful. 395 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Because some people in our society simply don't care about 396 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: any of it. And I don't know that that's necessarily healthy, 397 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: although I think some people consciously make that decision for 398 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: that reason. I don't have any great advice other than 399 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: take a moment, breathe. Little girls dying like this, it's 400 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: got us all in a bad way.