1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this episode number two and 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: today in the show, we are back for another episode 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: of our fresh mini series in which we're getting fresh 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: from the field updates from deer hunters across the country 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: on what deer doing right now, help coming conditions might 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: impact them, and what you can do in the coming 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: days to fill your tag. Welcome to the Wired to 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X. It is 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: me and Spencer new Hearth here for another episode of 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: our fresh radio mini series which we hear from hunters 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: all across the country on the latest in dear activity, 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: on how current conditions are impacting deer and deer hunting, 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: and the different ideas in tips and tactics that can 17 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: help you feel a tag right now in these next 18 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: couple of days. That's the game plan for today, Spencer. 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel that given the given the gauntlet I 20 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: just laid, can we meet those expectations? Can we deliver 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: on the episode today? I think we can. I think 22 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: listeners should be interested into what these four guests have 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: to say because this time of year, maybe more than 24 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: any other time of year, the deer movement seems to 25 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 1: be almost like a light switch, like the velvet's gone, 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: the bachelor group's break up, and these bucks that you've 27 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: been seeing on their summer patterns for the last three 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: months now t are nocturnal, and so like hearing this 29 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of information, I think in early to mid September 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: is more valuable than maybe even like early November. Yeah yeah, well, 31 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: yetta strike when the iron is hot, and it can 32 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: get cold real fast this time of year. So that said, 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: who do we talk to? We start off in Maryland 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: and talked to Cody Hesseltine, and then in South Dakota 35 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: was Alex Comstock from White Tailed DNA, and then we 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: get on to Florida from Story Hunts is Brandon Story, 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: and then we talked to Hunter Forbes from Southern White 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: Tail Outfitters in Kentucky. Now I enjoyed talking to these 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: guys because I have not been getting my white tail 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: fixed lately. I'm about to start focusing on elk. But 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: you Mark, you have been doing some scouting in preparation 42 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: for Michigan's opening, which is still like three weeks away, 43 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: is that correct? Yeah, yeah, to two and a half 44 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: weeks something like that. But yes, doing my long distance scouting, 45 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: which every year I find myself doing more and more 46 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: and more of, um, just getting out there with a 47 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: spotting scope and watching being fields or food plots or 48 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: crop fields of some kind depending on what I can 49 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: get access to. And and yeah, you know, the last 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: couple of days up until today, we have had some 51 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: pretty cool weather for the time of the year, and 52 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that in part has led to some pretty 53 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: good activity out there still in some of these fields. 54 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: So I've got on one of the properties that can hunt. 55 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: There was a late planted bean field, so it is 56 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: still very green and the deer just hammering it. So, oh, 57 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Handful nights ago, I saw a real 58 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: nice I've been calling the big nine, but I think 59 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: he's actually ten point. He's got a short G four 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: on on his right side, I guess, but he's a 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: three or four year old. And then last night and 62 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: the night before that, I saw another buck that I've 63 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: been seeing a lot this summer, really nice ten pointer um. 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw this. I posted 65 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: this on Instagram last night, Spencer. But I've been watching 66 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: this buck growth throughout the summer, and I've been trying 67 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: to figure out, like, do I know this, dear? Is this? 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Is this somehow a deer that took a big jump 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: from last year? He kind of seems familiar, and a 70 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: two year old from last year kept pop up popping 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: up in my head as a deer, like I need 72 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 1: to go back and compare pictures and video to this one. 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: So finally last night I went and did it. I 74 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: looked at a bunch of pictures, pull of a bunch 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: of old video, and then compared it with all the 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: phone scope footage I have of this deer this year, 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: and matching him up with similar angles. I think it's 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: a match. I think, at least it is a very 79 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: good chance it's a match. This dear last year was 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: just a decent two year old eight pointer here in Michigan, UM. 81 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: And I noticed him last year because I don't know 82 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: if you remember, But all through the late summer and 83 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: early fall last year, I was still holding out hope 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: that holy Field might have made it UM And so 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: I got a couple like grainy distant pictures of like 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: a tall eight pointer in the distance and had a 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: frame that kind of till ted it up. His main 88 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: beings kind of tilted up at the end. I'm like, man, 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: could that be holy Field? If if so, he really 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: took a jump down, like he really decreased in size. Well, 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: it turns out it wasn't holy Field. It was this buck. 92 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: It was this eight pointer. And I ended up seeing 93 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: him a bunch throughout the season, and in November he started. 94 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: He appeared one day like really injured, like seriously gimped up. 95 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Uh So I just kind of referred to as gimpy 96 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: every time of something that's that's gimpy in my head. 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: He pop out almost he like it's like he followed 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: me around every time I was out. I would see him, 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Um well lo and behold, I think that gimpy is 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: this ten pointer really has picking a nice jump. He's 101 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: a good looking ten point, just a three and a 102 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: half year old, but he's been out there feeding. This 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: big nine was out there feeding, you know, thirty minutes 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: before dark. So that's a long winded way of saying 105 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of like what you mentioned at the top that 106 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: when the going is good, the going is good. And 107 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: so we've had cool weather and I had a good 108 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: food source and that got these uh, these nicer bucks 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: in the area out on their feet. So I'm gonna 110 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: keep on keeping tabs on it, you know, the next 111 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: two weeks, going to stay off the property and um, 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: just observe and maybe put something in place for opening 113 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: day or that first week. But I'm excited. It's coming quick. 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: It's coming quick. It sounds like that light bulb where 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: these bucks break up their bachelor groups and go nocturnal 116 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: has not quite turned off for you yet, Is that correct? Well, 117 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: I will say the bachelor groups seemed to have broken 118 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: up these so these sightings that I've seen recently were 119 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: so low sightings. And in previous you know, all throughout 120 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: the summer it was a big group of them. And 121 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: now I've just been seeing that one of them would 122 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: be out there and then two days later the other 123 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: one would be out there. But they're all by themselves now. 124 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: So I do think that is that has happened. But 125 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's still early. That testosterone it's it's rising, 126 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: right the velvets peeled that the stopstone is rising, But 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: we certainly are still in that somewhat friendly stage. As 128 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: we get closer to octog, we're you know, we're gonna 129 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: start seeing things changed every week, but they're still on 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: speaking terms right now. I'd say, and and something Mark 131 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: that like I've I've picked up on through now four 132 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: seasons of doing this podcast is deer movement in mid 133 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: September can largely be dictated by consistent weather. Now, there's 134 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: certain like things that you hear, like a cold front 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: will get deer on their feet, or a full moon 136 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: will make deer movement worse in the mornings. Meanings like, 137 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of general things like that that are 138 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: just really widely accepted. And I think this is maybe 139 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 1: one that I haven't heard talked about as much until 140 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: he started doing this podcast. And then two years ago 141 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: in late September, I killed my biggest buck ever with 142 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: my bow and that was kind of the same case. 143 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: It was like a week straight of the same wind, 144 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: no temperature fluctuations. And then on this episode again it 145 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: came up where guys were talking about how they were 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: excited for the come week because there was that consistent 147 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: weather that have been building. Is that something that you've 148 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: heard people discussed or talked about for hunting in September. Well, 149 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: will clarify this for me, because the thing I have 150 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: heard from a couple of people, not a lot, but 151 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: Mark Drewy in particular talks about this is that when 152 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: you get a long period of consistent weather, the first 153 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: day it breaks, the first day that change happens is 154 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: when you see that bumping movement. So if you were 155 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: to have four or five days of the same when 156 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: stuff stagnates, the longer something stagnates, it builds up the 157 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: potential boost that you'll get as soon as it changes. 158 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: That's one of the theories I've heard is that what 159 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: you're speaking to or are you saying that these guys 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: are saying that they have better hunts during the stagnant, 161 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: similar consistent weather. Yeah, I'm referring to like when you 162 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: get four or five days of consistent weather that some 163 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: of these people we've talked to you in this episode 164 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: in past episod zodes uh like to see that in 165 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: the forecast. And I don't know the reasoning or if 166 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: they can even justify or I can justify it. Maybe 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: it said it like kind of gets them back in 168 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: that summer pattern in mid September, after it's kind of 169 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: gone away. I don't know what it is, um, but 170 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: it's something now that's come up over a couple of 171 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: seasons of doing this podcast. Interesting. I mean, the one 172 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind is it's simply is beneficial 173 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: from a hunting standpoint as the hunter, because if you've 174 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: got four or five days of a consistent wind direction, 175 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: you have four or five days where deer might be 176 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: doing something that you can take an advantage of in 177 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: the same way, right, Because it sucks if you see 178 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: a buck do something for two nights with a west 179 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: wind and then you can finally hunt him, but then 180 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's east wind, you know. But 181 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: if you have five days straight of west's, then you 182 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to make a move with that similar window. Actually, 183 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one thing I can think of that 184 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: would make that beneficial. But I'm intrigued to hear from 185 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: these people about what they're seeing. Yeah, I think that's 186 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: that's maybe the best observation on this theory. Mark that 187 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: if if you are watching a bean field and there's 188 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: five days of south winds and you see this deer 189 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: doing this on nights too, and nights three, then you're 190 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: probably gonna see him there in night's four and five, 191 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: And and in your head that means that the buck 192 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: moon is better if you're seeing the same thing. So 193 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: maybe not in reality that the deer movement is better, 194 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: but it certainly is at a haunters advantage that perception. Yeah, 195 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Well, I would say we should just 196 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: get into it because I'm not deer hunting right now, 197 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: so I just need to vicariously live through some folks 198 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: who are. And I know we've got four guys here 199 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: that can help me do that. So do you want 200 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: to take up here, Spencer, Yes, And I want to 201 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: plug something for the end of the podcast. I want 202 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: to stick around and listen because Hunter Forbes in Kentucky, 203 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: uh just recovered a deer this afternoon that one of 204 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: his clients hit last evening and it's probably the most 205 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: unique recovery store I've ever heard. Um, So stay tuned 206 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: for that, listen to the whole podcast. Oh and I 207 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: thought you're gonna plug something else, and I will plug 208 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: this other something else. Um. 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So don't miss out in 246 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: this deal. It only go us through Thursday evening. By 247 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: the time you hear this ad, you probably have less 248 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: than twenty four hours, So head over the media dot 249 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: com check out those sales are and joining us on 250 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: the line. First is Cody Hesseltine from Maryland. Now, Cody 251 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: in Maryland, what would you say the bucket activity is 252 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: ben lately on a scale of one to ten for 253 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: our opener was pretty good. Um, I would probably give 254 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: it a seven eight out of ten. On Saturday, Friday 255 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: was pretty slow because you had the hurricane come through 256 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: with some some high winds and it kind of laid 257 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: the deer down their real skittish. But you know Saturday 258 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: after that I pass the deer really moved. Well. No, 259 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: I know, you just killed a buck there in Maryland. 260 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that setup. Um, so 261 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: I'm that set up I was. I was kind of 262 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: hunting in a transition area, something just off the edge 263 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: of betting where these deer come outs a thicket, I mean, 264 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: transitioning through it going to a big white up flat 265 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: um as a white us to just started dropping it 266 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: within the last week and a half or so. So 267 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: is that a food source that you think is going 268 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: to be pretty consistent throughout the all of September here 269 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: or is that a short window where deer you're going 270 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: to be hitting that. No, it'll be pretty consistent throughout 271 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: the month. They're just starting to drop now, They're they're 272 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: not a lot coming down. I think in the next 273 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: week the two more should start falling. That should be 274 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: a bigger food source for the deer as an urban 275 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: bow hunter. What are the food sources this time of 276 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: year are you looking for? Um? I hunt a little 277 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: bit on the edge of farmland. Two. So the sugbeans 278 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: are still pretty grand, and now the deer still really 279 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: going to feed on those. The white oaks and some 280 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: of the burrows are really what I tend to key on, 281 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: trying to get up some most flash the deer coming 282 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: out and these open flash if he at night. Do 283 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: you notice any differences for how long or how short 284 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: those urban deer hold their summer patterns versus the ones 285 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: that are in more of your typical farm country. I 286 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: don't really know the difference between the urban far arm deer. 287 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: It really seems here once the white oaks start following, 288 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: that really becomes their preferred source of food and that 289 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: they'll go right to that. So I don't really see 290 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: too much of a change in patterns from the urban 291 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: and farm deer as summer. What are you seeing right 292 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: now for bachelor groups or bucks still traveling together at 293 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: this point? Yeah, for the most part, they're still traveling together. 294 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: They're starting to break up a little best seeing some 295 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: of the mature bucks that shed their velot, they're starting 296 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: to hang out by themselves now, but for the most part, 297 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: most of deer still battered up in groups of four 298 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: or five. And are you seeing any signmaking at this 299 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: point in Maryland or do you think it's still too early? Um? 300 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: Too early? I mean I seem a little bit just 301 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: some of the community scrapes that are open year round 302 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: though they're still being hit. But I haven't seen any 303 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: rubs or anything like that happen. Cody, what is your 304 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: trail camp strategy this time of year then, and how 305 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: is that going to change throughout the month of September. 306 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm really starting to move a lot of 307 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: them onto the white Oak flats, trying to you know, 308 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: figure out which which trees are dropping, a lot of 309 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: acorns moving in there and hard see what what new 310 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: deer moving into those areas. Um for that right now, 311 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: and then also kind of moving some awesome some soybean 312 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: fields onto some of the community scrapes. I know the 313 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: buck that you killed was still in velvet, but are 314 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: you still seeing a lot of those books that have 315 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: fazzy antlers? Yeah, I would say right now it's probably 316 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: maybe still in velvet. And notice we opened there on 317 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: the sixth and I would say probably semi fibers on 318 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: the bucks from Velvet Ben. But now it dropped down 319 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: the four they're really starting to shed quick now going forward. 320 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Then in this next week or so, what do you 321 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a 322 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Maryland? We got a 323 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: cold front coming in Friday, so I think it's gonna 324 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: ramp up. We got kind of warmed up now back 325 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: up into the nineties. They're supposed to drop up down 326 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: into the seventies. So with that twenty degree tempt drops 327 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: there on Friday, I think the buck Act two is 328 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: going to stay pretty good right around are Cody will 329 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: congrats on the awesome deer and thanks for joining me. 330 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: Thank you all and joining us on the line. Next 331 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: is Alex Colm Stock from White Tailed d NA who 332 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: was hunting in South Dakota. Now Alex in South Dakota. 333 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: What would you say the buck activities man lately on 334 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: the scale of one to tend Yeah, I would say 335 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: when I was there was probably about three. And the 336 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: only reason I really wouldn't put it out of one 337 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: was because the first night we saw two really nice bucks, 338 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: but it was on the walkout after shooting hours. Um. 339 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: Other than that, we really didn't see any bucks and 340 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: deer activity as in general was just really slow. Now, 341 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: you were hunting the opener on public land there in 342 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: South Dakota. Do you think that contributed to why you 343 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: didn't see much? Do you think there was just not 344 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: much good dear movement across the board? Yeah? I think 345 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: with the weather this wasn't that good. Uh, deer movement 346 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: across the board. Um, it was really hot. It was 347 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, pushing nineties. With the Humanity I think it 348 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: said it was, you know, about four, So I don't 349 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: think the weather I was doing as much favors there. 350 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: So what were your setups then? Knowing that it was 351 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: really hot and humid, we were on the public land 352 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: that we were on, we were trying to get tight 353 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: to bedding um where we were hunting. We had pictures 354 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: of bucks moving um through midday when they would show up, 355 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: so we kind of knew we were close to where 356 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: they were bedded and we were hoping they would kind 357 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: of get up there right in the last half hour 358 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: before they head out to the crops, and uh, they 359 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: just just wouldn't show. So that was kind of our 360 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: game plan. Now, the great planes had a lot of 361 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: rain this spring and summer, so there's plenty of water available. 362 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: Did that factor into your guys decision making it all? 363 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: It didn't completely factor entire decision making just because there 364 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: wasn't any water water sources around, But like you said, 365 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: it was the being so wet out there. There was 366 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: water just available anywhere, So even if there was, we 367 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have from the deer that you did see, 368 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: we're also still holding velvet or must bucks hard horned 369 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: at this point. We saw a mix. So there were 370 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: some smaller bucks that we saw in velvet and we're 371 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: getting pictures and bucks still in velvet um. But the 372 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: night that well, those two bucks on the walkout they 373 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: were they were both horn already, and that would have 374 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: been on September two. How about bachelor groups? Were bucks 375 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: still traveling together? It appeared that they were still traveling together. 376 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: I figured they probably would have been for at least 377 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: another week. So based on what we were seeing, what 378 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: do you think the best food source to haunt this 379 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: time of year would be in that area? Were you 380 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: looking at some big egg? Where is there's some natural 381 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: brows available as well? Yeah? Out there it seemed like 382 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: they were heading out to alfalfa fields at night. We 383 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: were all the crops that we had around with the 384 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: corner and salfa. Um seeing deer driving around at the 385 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: end of the night, um, or those deer that we 386 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: saw after dark, we're in alfalfa field, so that kind 387 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: of seemed to be the primary food source. Now, when 388 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: you only have a short window like that and you're 389 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: traveling boat hunting on public land, did you consider any 390 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: morning setups at all? Yeah, we actually hunted two mornings. Um. 391 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: We got it super early, really tight again to bedding, 392 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: and the one more was our best hunt. We saw 393 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: probably a two or three year old buck that had 394 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: some really good genetics and a few doughs coming through. 395 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: But even though deer came through within probably the first 396 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: ten ten minutes of a legal shooting night. So if 397 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: it hadn't been so hot there in South Dakota in 398 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: the four or five days you had to hunt, would 399 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: have that changed your strategies? Yeah, I think we would 400 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: have probably gone with the same strategy, but it would 401 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: have probably gave us a better chance for these those 402 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: mature lucks be getting out of their beds, maybe a 403 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: little early headed to the food, being able to cut 404 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: them off in those last hour or so of light, 405 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: being in close to their bedding like you were. Did 406 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: you come across any signmaking I know what's really early, 407 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: but it sounds like you were tight on them the timber, 408 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: so maybe you saw some rubs or scrapes as soon. Yeah, 409 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: we did not run any across any rubs or scrapes, 410 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if we just weren't tight enough, 411 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: or if if we just weren't in the exact right 412 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: spot per se. Going forward. Then in the sext week 413 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity is 414 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to ten 415 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: in South Dakota. I'd probably put it still pretty low. 416 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: When I had left, Uh, the outlook for the weather 417 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: was still pretty warm, and unless you get a significant 418 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: temperature temperature drop, I would put it probably around the 419 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: four or five. Alright, Alex Well, I hope you get 420 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: a chance to return. Good luck with the rest of 421 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: your season, and thanks for joining me. All right, thanks 422 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: Spencer are in joining us on the line. Next is 423 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Brandon's story from Florida from Story Hunts Now. Brandon in Florida, 424 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activity has been lately 425 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten. I'd say here 426 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: in the past week, we're probably at about a six 427 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: out of ten right now, which should be increasing with 428 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: the full moon coming up here. So what phase of 429 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: the rut are you experiencing right now in South Florida? UM, 430 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: In the south zone south of Highway seventy, we've seen 431 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: really intense running actually from the very beginning of August. UM. 432 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: It really peaked up in the mid August when the 433 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: full moon hit then and it seemed to slow back 434 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: down a little, which I think they'll increase UM as 435 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: the full moon coming there and then on the north 436 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: side of seventy and centrals on fixing and open this weekend. UM, 437 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: we've noticed that the bucks have really broken out of 438 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: their bachelor groups a couple of weeks ago, and they're 439 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: starting to make some scrapes and UM lease and signed 440 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: and break off into their areas. So I would assume 441 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: that the Central's on rut is gonna probably really get 442 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: fired up here in the next couple of days when 443 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: the full moon hits as well. With that full moon coming, 444 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: how does that change the strategies for your clients? UM? 445 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: It really just as much as you can stay in 446 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: the tree stand with the full moon, because you don't 447 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: really know when they're gonna show their face, but they 448 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: show their face a lot more during the daylight around 449 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: that time. It seems like they, um, not only are 450 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: you know, in the daylight a lot more, there are 451 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: a lot more serious in intents into the rut. You 452 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: see a lot more fighting um songs hanging out as 453 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: their cruising a lot mid day. So you really just 454 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: have to kind of get where you know, the does 455 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: are out on the camera lately, and I hope you 456 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: can get the right buck to pass by at the 457 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: right time. Now, Hurricane Dorian didn't directly hit you guys, 458 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: but it certainly brought some weather. How did that affect 459 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: dear movement? Um, we've definitely seen the increase in deer 460 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: movement for the two or three days before Dorian got 461 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: really close to us. Luckily it did turn and go 462 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: up the coast. Um, it seemed like for the day 463 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: or two that it was really you know, close to 464 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: us there and some of the winds and rain were 465 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: coming in that there was a shut down on some 466 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: of the cameras that we got to where there was 467 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: not as much dear movement at all, So it seems 468 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: like they really loaded up before the storm shut down 469 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: a couple of days when it was close, and then afterwards, um, 470 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: we started seeing the deer activity picking back up along 471 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: with all the birds that are kind of left and 472 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: not everything got back to normal. Typically, if it was 473 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: at this stage that brought in mid in the Midwest, 474 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: hunters would be using calling and decoys and strategies like 475 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: that to bring the deer to them. Is that something 476 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: that you guys utilized in South Florida? Yes? Or um, 477 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, I thought of the Midwest and Florida and 478 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: I have does seem like some of the Midwest states 479 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: you get a little better response with the calling and all. 480 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: But it's I think with any state, the right place 481 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: at the right time, with the right call is gonna 482 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: make you know the deer come to you. So there 483 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: is you know, it is effective right now with the 484 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: deer on their feet if you can, you know, hit 485 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: a ground call at the right time, or hit some 486 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: rattling horns while their cruise and then not on the 487 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: hot dough and get on the turn and come towards 488 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: your area a little more so those um, if you 489 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: know what area you're in, you know a bus, you 490 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: know we're kind of in that area, and you've got 491 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: some dominant box. I think calling right now is very effective. 492 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: What food sources are hunters now focused on? And what 493 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: food sources are those deer hitting? UM? A lot of 494 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: our main food sources down here is you know, natural 495 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: stuff that i'd say the orange grows people setting up 496 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: off the orange grows. Now. Besides that, we have a 497 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: lot of protein feeders and you know spin feeders down here, 498 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: branches have on them for you know, multiple different animals, um. 499 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: And then people are also planting a lot of food plots. 500 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: If you had your earlier food plots in where you 501 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: have your ashion nominee some clover, some peas growing, that'll 502 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: be your food sources. They're mainly hitting right now with 503 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: the rut going on in your area. Are you seeing 504 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: a lot of signmaking right now? And how do you 505 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: use that? Yeah, we're seeing a lot of signs um 506 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: popping up in the centrals on now because they're breaking 507 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: off and starting to mark their territories. UM. As the 508 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: full moon hits and they actually locked into these does 509 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the signs should die down? UM? You usually see a 510 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: lot of signs if you want to call it pre rut. 511 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: Different people have different you know, views on what they 512 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: call rutton pre rut. But before they really start breeding 513 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: and chasing the dose is when they make a lot 514 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: of sign. As soon as the sign starts kind of 515 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: dying down. You know this when they're actually locked into 516 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: their dos. And I would say, starting this weekend and 517 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: next week, you're gonna start seeing less sign and more 518 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: chasing going forward. Then in six week or so, what 519 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: do you think that bucket TV is going to be 520 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten Florida. I would 521 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: say by the full moon um coming up by this weekend, 522 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be about a nine out of ten or 523 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: ten out of ten um with the timing coming off 524 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: the backside of Dorrian and seeing where the rut's been 525 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: down south compared to where these bucks are kind of 526 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: breaking up now, they're about exactly where the deer were 527 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: down south before the full moon hit there. So I 528 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: expected it to be pretty high night our tent out 529 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: of town. All right, Brandon, Well, good luck to you 530 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: and the hunters. Are you having camp? Thanks for joining me, awesome, 531 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: appreciate it, ma'am. Alright and joining us on the line 532 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: next is Hunter Forbes from Southern White Tail Outfitters in Kentucky. 533 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: Now Hunter in Kentucky. What would you say the bucket 534 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten, 535 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: and I M gonna go with a seven, seven out 536 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: of ten. Yeah, we've got a south wind the past 537 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: couple of days and put them back in their summer patterns, 538 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: it seems like. And it's been pretty good. Um, have 539 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: some hunters killing deer yesterday evening and artist seeing new 540 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: this afternoon. So yeah, I'm gonna give it a seven 541 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: these last couple of nights. What have those setups been like? Man? 542 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: So typically everyone's targeting beans this time of year, and 543 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: here lately the corn's been getting shaled, so all these 544 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: first cut corn fields has really drawn the deer in. Um. 545 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: It seems like the majority of the deer are betting 546 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: in the beans and coming out to the corn fields. 547 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: So it's kind of reverse um, which she would be 548 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: thinking can but everything's leaving the beans and come into 549 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: the fresh cut corn field. So that's pretty much bet 550 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: our setups and been working out here lately. So is 551 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: that a pattern that you think is going to last 552 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: for a while or is that going to be short lived? Well, 553 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: it's kind of on a perform basis on when the 554 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: corn is gonna be coming out. So as soon as 555 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: it comes out, you know, it may be like that 556 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks here. Um. But if you're 557 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: you know, corn hadn't came out yet, then you're not 558 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: seeing that. Um. And on all those farms which just 559 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: mainly been hunting over you can paint in kentuckis that 560 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: mainly hunting over corn poles? Do you have any strategies 561 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: for killing those bucks that bed out in egg field, 562 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: like say they bet in a bean field and they 563 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: also feed in a bean field. Do you have any 564 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: strategies for killing those deer? Or they just too hard 565 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: to get to right now? It's about access this time 566 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: of year. Um, if you can't get into him, you 567 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: work you're gonna speak him. You know, it's probably the case. 568 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: So if you can have a you know, a sit 569 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: and to be able to watch them from afar and 570 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: come up with a game plan more than like they're 571 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: going to be doing the same thing the day after 572 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: day given constant weather, consistent weather and so over the 573 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: weekend we struggled a little bit because we went from 574 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: the south wind to a north wind, and those north 575 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: wind days we just weren't seeing the deer like we 576 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: we're on camera. Um. But as of yesterday it swapped 577 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: came out of south again and we're back to our 578 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: normal summer patterns and it's been good so far. I'm 579 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: seeing quite a few deer on cameras and moving in daylight, 580 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get a few more down this week. 581 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: So when you say that these deer are back to 582 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: their summer patterns, does that mean that you catch a 583 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: lot of bucks traveling and bachelor groups. Yeah, there's some 584 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: bachelor groups. They're just starting to shed their velvet. Some 585 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: are right now, and say we're probably sitting on as 586 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: far as the ones that have and haven't. Every day 587 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: we're losing you. On those north one days, we got 588 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: a little bit cooler force. Deer seem to be moving 589 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: like early morning, right at first light, which we don't 590 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: hunt the morning's early season. We just stick through the afternoons, 591 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, afraid to bump in deer out over the 592 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: food sources getting into We didn't really worked out for 593 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: our hunting sylm as tours killing this deer, but not 594 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: we're seeing them in the afternoons. Um. We've been kind 595 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: of slowly working our way in as far as sitting 596 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: and seeing them from a couple hundred yards and then 597 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: hanging and hunting them, you know, wherever we saw them 598 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: come out from. So that's Prood's been working the best 599 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: for us and doing that on that they're being shield like. 600 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: Combines are just getting out of the field and we're 601 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: going right behind them. Um can drive the truck all 602 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: the way up to it because they're used to the 603 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: farm equipment. And before those combines are on the field, 604 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: we gotta stand hung and hunters ready to go hunting. 605 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: When you have so many destination food sources like you 606 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: have on your properties there in Kentucky, do you concern 607 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: yourself with water at all or are you always focused 608 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: on that egg? Yes, definitely about water. We're really really 609 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: dry right now, UM, I'd say, not really constraining water 610 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: as far as where we're hunting, but as far as 611 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: what farms are going to have shooter bucks on it 612 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: right now. If we don't have water somewhere close, we're 613 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: probably not going to have those deer that we're trying 614 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: to hunt. So they're they're definitely hanging around it, you know, 615 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: to some degree, but we're not hunting over them. On 616 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: a different note, I saw on Instagram today that you 617 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: guys recovered a buck that it seemed like you had 618 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: lost hope on to find this deer that a hunter 619 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: had just hit. It's a really cool story. Yeah, So 620 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: last night at last light, we had a shot on 621 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: a deer and a little bit you know, too far forward, 622 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: further than we would like. Um, we gave him four 623 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: hours and followed up. We happened to bump the deer, 624 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: so we came out. Um, he looked like he was 625 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: hit pretty bad, and we could hear Tardy selling clothes 626 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: and we're worried that they were going to get to him. 627 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: And by the morning we came back in this morning 628 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: and we felt blood for posted nine yards. Um, the 629 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: last spot kind of ended out of being filled and 630 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: there's several trails going through and we walked as far 631 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: as we could, but we're talking bean's chest and that 632 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: ki super tall. You can't really see you right through it. 633 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: So I do a lot of scouting with the drone 634 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: as far as seeing where deer bedding and how they're 635 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: using this trails going to the fields and stuff. And 636 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: so grabbed the drone and I didn't have to for 637 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: sixty seconds. It was plain as day. Um, once we 638 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: got it up in the air, you can see kind 639 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: of how the cardy is. I guess um ran him 640 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: into the beans because a lot of beans were knocked over. 641 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: We're able to recover him so pretty neat the first time. 642 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: For me, you don't think you'd recovered that deer otherwise, 643 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: I really don't. I really don't. We were trying to 644 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: get ahold a dog and um, a lot of dogs. 645 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: Was this hot, you know, it's pretty hard to work. 646 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: We actually found him around I guess one or two o'clock. 647 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: It was ninety six degrees out. We weren't able to 648 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: save much of the meat at all. The cardies have 649 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: done got most of him, so it was just just 650 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: a recovery. But we're able to do, you know, thanks 651 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: to that drone. That's a wild story. I'm glad I 652 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: had a happy ending. But going forward in this sext 653 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that bucket activity 654 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: is going to be on the scale of one to 655 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: ten in Kentucky. Rather, it looks consistent and consistent whether 656 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be doing the same thing, and I'm gonna 657 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: stick stick to the seven. It should keep on being 658 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: just fine. Um here. When acorns start following's gonna change 659 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: things up. But for right now, I think we're pretty consistent. 660 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: Just thanks for that freshly cut corn fields and expecting 661 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: to be bedding in the beans all right, Hunter, thanks 662 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: for joining me. Good luck to you and your clients, 663 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: and talk to you later this season. Thanks for getting 664 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: from you, And that concludes this week's episode of Wired 665 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: to Hunt's brought Fresh Radio. Thanks to Cody, Alex Brandon, 666 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: and Hunter for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. 667 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: Good Luck to those taking advantage of some of these 668 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: early season white tail openers. I hope your fall has 669 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: started just as you imagined it would. We'll talk to 670 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: you guys next week, but until then, stay Weird to Hunt.