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Speaker 2: Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Can we start

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Speaker 2: the theme? Steve, You're ready?

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Speaker 1: Bill? You're ready? Why are you ready?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Oh that's out forward. Yeah for it.

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Speaker 4: Supremo Roll came Supremo, Supremo. Role came Supremo, Supremo, Supremat Supremo.

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Speaker 2: What love is my name? Yeah, Supreme is the squad

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Speaker 2: Yeah region.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, suprem Supremo.

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Speaker 1: Roll came Supremo Supremo. My name is Fante. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: in my prime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Sally. Yeah, we need some more winning time.

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Speaker 4: So sup.

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Speaker 1: Supremo Suprivo roll Call.

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Speaker 2: My name is Sugar Yeah, and we and Cali Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I am so glad that rhymes with Sally.

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Speaker 1: Rivall.

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Speaker 6: I'm unpaid Bill, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: Hold the phone.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to our guests and her tailbone.

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Speaker 4: Suprivo roll suprivavs like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's here to teach.

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Speaker 7: Yeah if I was damn Yeah, this is a firseprimo roll.

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Speaker 6: Sup roll.

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Speaker 3: My name is Sally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They call me Mustang yeah because.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got that thing thing.

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Speaker 8: So Supremo Suprema So so somo.

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Speaker 1: Don't feel mad. I have done that many times.

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Speaker 3: That was over soon, he's done.

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Speaker 6: I've done.

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Speaker 7: Sally's here to teach.

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Speaker 3: I came for class like no, I got class like

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Speaker 3: Angela and a mouth like peaches.

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Speaker 7: Damn. Yeah, it was like Angela in the mouth.

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Speaker 6: Like anyhow.

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Speaker 1: Anywhere rhythm and rapping.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I'm all right.

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Speaker 2: So this is another uh Los Angeles in person in

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Speaker 2: studio quest love Supreme love in person. Yeah, in person,

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Speaker 2: it's it's my favorite type of tapings that we do.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy it. It's amazing. Anything else.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Bill anyway.

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Speaker 6: I'm just having me here.

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Speaker 1: We never get to do this. We always do this

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Speaker 1: on us in person? Is weird to be? I love?

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Speaker 1: I love being in person. No, we're here especially, I

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Speaker 1: know you have.

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Speaker 3: To ask Afield. I'm sorry. DeAndre gonna go home in trouble.

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Speaker 1: We just.

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Speaker 2: Decided to call him DeAndre right now, call him Robert Andre.

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Speaker 3: Get me in trouble, all right, No, talk us through that.

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Speaker 3: He will talks.

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Speaker 1: We've been calling him Robert forever.

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Speaker 3: Literally, he probably that's worse. That's not as bad as DeAndre.

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Speaker 2: People call him Robert still from absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 7: Andre Andre Andre.

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Speaker 1: We're already getting off the shaky start, all right.

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Speaker 2: So look, the I would say the order of the

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Speaker 2: day for this podcast is we often talk about pivots,

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Speaker 2: pivots in terms of where we were creatively at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of our career, towards where we've.

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Speaker 1: Learned that idiom from LL cool J taking walks to the.

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Speaker 2: Light, you know, And so I will say that that's

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Speaker 2: a major theme of this program, and of course our

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Speaker 2: guest today, I believe in bodies sort of that motion.

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Speaker 2: We first fell in love with her as an actress

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Speaker 2: and many a classic film a name like Posse Low Down,

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Speaker 2: Dirty Shame.

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Speaker 1: Uh eureka, right, I have so many questions about that exactly.

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Speaker 2: I do want this to be the low down, Dirty

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Speaker 2: tribute program. Not to mention, you know, I am legend

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Speaker 2: just countless of sitcoms and dramas and whatnot, which basically

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Speaker 2: leads to her calling as an executive producer and a director.

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Speaker 2: Sitting in that director's chairs, it's mighty a task that

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Speaker 2: you know isn't for the faint hearted. And I will

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Speaker 2: say that between her directing on Queen Sugar, one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite programs, by the way, not to mention scandal

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Speaker 2: not to mention winning time, the story of the classic

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Speaker 2: era of the Los Angeles Lakers, and right now we're

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Speaker 2: celebrating the guilted age and we're going to talk pivots,

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Speaker 2: the art of storytelling, and just her journey creatively.

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Speaker 1: And I would.

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Speaker 2: Like to welcome to quest Love Supreme without stutterying, Sally Richardson,

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Speaker 2: you look at me.

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Speaker 3: I gave you that look.

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Speaker 2: I know, yeah, like I already felt the pressure, right, yes, no,

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Speaker 2: Please welcome Sally Richardson Whitfield to Questions.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited

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Speaker 2: Well for startists, for those that don't know you. Where

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Speaker 2: are you from? Where were you born?

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Speaker 3: I'm from Chicago, part of Chicago, south side of Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Is everyone really from the south side between Detroit and Chicago.

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Speaker 3: If you black, you mostly from the south side of Chicago,

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Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that the south is the realest.

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Speaker 3: End quote, because it is Chicago. As much as I

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Speaker 2: So for you, what was your formative years like creatively speaking,

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Speaker 2: what was your family situation and growing.

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Speaker 3: Up sort of you know, parents divorced. I was very

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Speaker 3: very well for me now in life. I can kind

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Speaker 3: of flow anywhere I need to go. And then my mother,

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Speaker 3: And I think what sort of sparked me wanting to

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Speaker 3: this seems interesting, which is kind of started my path.

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Speaker 3: I have three brothers who are about fifteen years younger

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Speaker 2: I was ready for you to be the younger sister

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Speaker 2: that they beat up everybody.

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Speaker 1: No, I but you were there.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna beat you, but you know, I was the

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know have that mixture of

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Speaker 3: so me and me and my brother. Yeah, that's my

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Speaker 3: that's my baby there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I see that default. Yeah well quasi parents, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get that now, all right. So here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hashtag what about Chicago? What about Chicago?

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Speaker 2: What is your view or description of your formative years

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Speaker 3: So I spent a lot of time in Hyde Park.

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Speaker 3: So although I'm like this mixed girl, which can not

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Speaker 3: work for you, Well, at times it was a very

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Speaker 3: Now we're on ninety fifth Street off of Stony Island.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really encounter too much. When I go back

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. That's where you just churches and bars, church, bar, church, bar,

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Speaker 3: I look back and go, God, I just walked over

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Speaker 2: Okay, So well that was my next question, like has

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's probably worse over there now.

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Speaker 2: Now you mentioned you mentioned manager. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you were talking about manager then or manager now. But

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Speaker 2: when you spoken manager, are you you mean in terms.

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Speaker 1: Of acting or like? Did you have aspirations to sing

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Speaker 3: I did so when I first started because of the studio.

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Speaker 3: I played piano. I used to study opera. Uh so,

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Speaker 3: I thought when I first went to LA it was

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Speaker 3: sort of acting and singing. I thought I would do both.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of demorels somewhere of me singing.

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Speaker 3: And I think I shot a not think I did.

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Speaker 3: I shot a video.

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you come to La?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 3: I was twenty five. I don't know, I graduated eighty five.

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Speaker 7: Whatever Giddo's real numbers.

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't care. I'm old. And uh yeah, I

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Speaker 3: thought I was gonna be a singer.

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Speaker 1: I kind of you in LA in eighty five, eighty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, during Pebbles all that time. Yeah, and I could do.

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Speaker 1: Hip hop and now you are you fell in the hole? Now.

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Speaker 3: It was a perfect time because I didn't really have

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Speaker 3: to dance well neither. It was like, this is good.

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Speaker 3: I can sing, I have no rhythm, I can't dance.

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Speaker 3: And this video, I'm really I haven't looked at in

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Speaker 3: a long time because it's in I have like the

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Speaker 3: There are not a lot of women my age, especially

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Speaker 3: always say, I must have been a little one of

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00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: those actresses that was given too much of their opinion,

445
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: because at some point she said to me during that process,

446
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: she said, I think you're a director and you don't

447
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 3: know it.

448
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: How did you feel when you were told that.

449
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: There's something about when it was you know how someone

450
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: just says something to you and you kind of see

451
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 3: your life flash and I go like, moment, I had

452
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: a Eureka moment. Thank you. It was like God put

453
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: something in her to give to me and it changed

454
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: my life. And I was on I was I want

455
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: a break from Eureka. At that time, it was like

456
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: you know our hiatus. And Ava said that to me

457
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: and I went, huh, she's doing it. She was a publicist,

458
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: she can do this. And I called this director. I

459
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: knew Eric Laanaville, who does Who's done Black Black? Director

460
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: used to be an actor on I Think Saint Elsewhere

461
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 3: with Denzel. He came up with him and he started

462
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 3: directing that show. Anyway, he had directed me on Eureka,

463
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: and I called him. I said, hey, I want to

464
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: ask them about directing. I think I want to do this.

465
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: Can I shadow you? He said absolutely, So went in

466
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 3: shadowed him on a few like two shows during my break,

467
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: and Ava gave me some tapes I got some books.

468
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: I have many years of you know, learning on the set,

469
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: which you find out how much you really know when

470
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: you do it. And I asked my producer producers, and

471
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: they tried me and gave me an episode. And when

472
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: I did, I still remember when they called me and

473
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: said yes where I was standing, and that moment of

474
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: being excited and then literally the next moment going holy shit,

475
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: now now it's real. Now I have to really do it.

476
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: And after doing that first episode, I went, oh, I

477
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: understand this. I get this.

478
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: This is great and directly for you was something you

479
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 5: learned strictly just from shadowing other director.

480
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: It's not something like.

481
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 3: You went to school for Well, I say, I went

482
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: to school because it was like twenty five years of acting,

483
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: so what I realized. So then I did. I did

484
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: the Sony Film program at the studio and then I

485
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: remember during that I'm in this program and I was

486
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: feeling a little intimidated because they had all these students

487
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: who had gone to AFI and Yu and blah blah blah.

488
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: They had done their little films and stuff, but they've

489
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: all been in school and I the more they talked,

490
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: the more panels, I mean, the more like little group

491
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: classes and speakers would come all of a sudden, I

492
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: became part of the speakers because I knew so much

493
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: from being on the set right, so I the mixture

494
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: of doing the work I needed to by really shadowing

495
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: and paying attention. And when I say shadow, because I

496
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: tell people who come to shadow means shadowing means you're

497
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: there through every bit of pre production, every meeting, every

498
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: when I go to set. If I get to work

499
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: an hour before, you should be there an hour, Yeah,

500
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: you're there every minute. When we edited, I was there

501
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: every minute. And so you really that's a different than

502
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: just sitting on a set. I learned a lot. You

503
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: shadow me. It's it's I learned a lot doing that.

504
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 3: And then but honestly, you don't you don't know if

505
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: you're can be good at it until you do it.

506
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: So now that you're knee deep in it, have you

507
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: accepted that this is your actual calling? Because for me, though,

508
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: they're still it's almost you know, like in Heat where

509
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: you got to walk away in thirty seconds or else,

510
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: And there is that moment sorry to spoiler for those

511
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: that have not seen the movie Heat. Yeah, no, there's

512
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: a moment at the very end where de Niro can

513
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: just he executed it, He got the guy, he can

514
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: walk off.

515
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: With the girl. This is a little itching he has

516
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: to go back and see.

517
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: And of course you know, I won't spoiler what happens,

518
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: but it does. So my whole point is there is

519
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: a part of me as a musician that still feels

520
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: like I didn't scratch that itch yet.

521
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like.

522
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: I've done everything in the music world except arrived at

523
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: this platform on my own without aiding someone getting there

524
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: or that sort of thing. And even though I'm having

525
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: a hell of a life and a hell of a

526
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: journey everywhere else, this part of me that's still like, man,

527
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: none of this like there's an asterisk there, like, none

528
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: of this counts until I can do for music what

529
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm able to do for these other ventures. So for

530
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: you in acting in terms of like that, have you

531
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: resolved that? And just like, hey, if the universe always

532
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: wanted me to tell stories behind the.

533
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: Camera, no have I. So when I started directing so much,

534
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: I in the beginning I thought that I would be

535
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: doing both. I would I'll direct this part of the

536
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: year and then I'll be on a series use and

537
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: do this part of the year, and then all of

538
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: a sudden, I was getting booked so much that it

539
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: made sense for me to just keep on directing. So

540
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: I always thought I would be acting. I didn't know

541
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: I was quitting at the time. And then you look

542
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: back and it's three years later, and you know, because

543
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: I was still dabbling and doing small little things, or

544
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: more than three I mean, it's been many years now

545
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: that I haven't really acted.

546
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: You know.

547
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, I've done a show where

548
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: it was directed and they're like, oh, why don't you

549
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: just do this role. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll do it.

550
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: That'll be fun. So I would never say never. I

551
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: would love to do something that would be truly challenging

552
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: for me. I think at the end of my acting career,

553
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: I was doing a lot of the same kind of role.

554
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: I was like the powerful black woman in the office, attorney,

555
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: head of the company, deag you know, I was just

556
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: the same Yeah, you know, I'm telling everybody what to

557
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: do and then I go back in my office. That

558
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: was becoming a kind of boring and not very challenging.

559
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: And I do think that I never was given the

560
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: opportunity to really show how good I can be and

561
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: to really really do amazing work. And I don't think

562
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: I ever had. Part of the way the reason I

563
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: direct the way I do is that I really push

564
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: people because I felt like I've never had that one

565
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: director who would not accept anything but everything they knew

566
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: they had in me. And so when I work with actors,

567
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: if I know you have more, if I know if

568
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: I'm watching your performance and I know what kind of

569
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: actor you are, too, say you've done three takes and

570
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: it's the same. It's a good performance, but I noticed

571
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: it's the same. Then I know you werehear set at

572
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 3: home and now and I like it. I'm watching it.

573
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: Other people are impressed. But there's something in my gut

574
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: or in my heart, in my body that I know

575
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: when it's real, and I hope to push you to

576
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: give me that moment where I really feel it and

577
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: then I go, now we have it. And I've never

578
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: had that person do that for me.

579
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess in the past ten to fifteen years,

580
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: they come in I won't say shots fired, but there

581
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: have been words from the US brothers in terms of

582
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: their experience with Denzel on.

583
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: It's a book of right, of which I guess you know.

584
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: One of them was joking about like, and I've heard

585
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: this before from other actors, where like Denzel would be like,

586
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm only going to give you two performances, so you

587
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: better capture it now, like I don't have it, And

588
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: established actors I know, like I didn't know that that

589
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 2: was an option, Like, you've better capture me now. And

590
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: I've heard de Niro stories and all that stuff from

591
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: established actors. How do you know how far to push

592
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: your actors, especially if you're in a situation where like

593
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: time is of the essence. You know, there's always some

594
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: serious micromanaging producer in the background, like Okay, we're losing light,

595
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: or you know, we don't have enough for overtime or whatever.

596
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: How do you know when to press a button, when

597
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: to make someone do a fourth take?

598
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, how do you know that?

599
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: I think it's everyone's different and you have to take

600
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: cues from the people you're working with. Sometimes I will,

601
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: especially with the bigger actors, I will I have conversations

602
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: with everyone before I shoot, you know, because how far?

603
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: How far can I push you? How far are you

604
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 3: comfortable with?

605
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I apologize?

606
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Guys, this is really going to just be the Sally

607
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: Mirror because morse he's talking.

608
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: The more I'm like, oh god, I didn't think about

609
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: them of this.

610
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: I gotta confront people and talk, and I talk to

611
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: them a lot of my actor friends, and they'll tell me,

612
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: like if a list person's being an asshole on the

613
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: set and that sort of thing.

614
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: There's some people I know that, there are some actors

615
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: I can I can on the side of the camera

616
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: say things that I know that will give you an

617
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: emotional response. I can come whisper in your ear and

618
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: tell you you're a piece of ship and that's why

619
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: you ain't never this. I'll talk crazy in your but

620
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: I know that we have, we've had a conversation.

621
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Just get excited.

622
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: I see you doing that.

623
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Actors on the Gilday I just went off the.

624
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 6: I am a piece of ship.

625
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you like?

626
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: What are your bring Christine Baranski's ear. I am not

627
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: saying that, But there are certain people I can go.

628
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 3: I can look at you and go, I don't believe

629
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 3: you right now.

630
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: So but should you have to go through Jediah, you

631
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: just have to go through Jedi.

632
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: I have to figure out. I have to figure out

633
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: how to get the best out of you without you

634
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: shutting down. Now, there are some there's some big actors

635
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: who are a little more persnickety, but I also don't

636
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: have to put they they're good people. They know what

637
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: they're doing. So I have to figure out what little

638
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 3: things I can say to you to get what I want.

639
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: And sometimes it can be uncomfortable for me, but that's

640
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: by earning their respect and not being afraid to give

641
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: them the note even though you know they're gonna give

642
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: you an attitude about it.

643
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: So as a woman, as we you know, and I've

644
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: heard this many times in any professional setting, like women

645
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: often have to fight for to stand their ground as

646
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: leader and to get oursts and it's sort of us

647
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: not look kind of sitting and all those things.

648
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: So how deep is the.

649
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: Mental preparation that you have to do when you know

650
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: that you're dealing with an actor or actress whatever that

651
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: sort of might have closed that won't submit to you.

652
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: I don't there is something about my personality that does

653
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: not give you the feeling that you should not listen

654
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: to what I'm asking you to do. And first of all,

655
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm very prepped and prepared, which is part of them

656
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: starting to respect you, and again, there's not much you

657
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 3: can do to me that will, at least outwardly, will

658
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: break me down.

659
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: So people attempted.

660
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 3: I've had. I've had some early on, some volatile people.

661
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: But that's where Chicago comes and in my mind because

662
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: people I've had producers say to me, Okay, other women

663
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 3: have cried here and this and that, and I'm like,

664
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: ain't nobody gonna see me cry? Like that's just not

665
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: like it's not happening. I don't cry in life. Really,

666
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: it's not a good thing. My husband says, I didn't. No,

667
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: I'm a sad, but you know, I just I come

668
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: from that that, you know, I come from that black

669
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: mother where there is there is like just suck it

670
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: up and move on. So there's times I feel it

671
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: and of course cried in my life. I believe I

672
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: need to learn how to cry. My husband was I

673
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: remember when he goes, if you walk down this aisle

674
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: and I don't see you cry, and the whole time

675
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: going down the aisle, I was like, fuck, figure how

676
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: to cry? Real upset. I didn't cry when I had

677
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: I gave birth to two children with no drugs and yeah,

678
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: but no tears, with no drugs, natural child. I just

679
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: not a crier anyway. So let me tell you you're

680
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: you're not that. I've had, you know, different things in

681
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: my life. I'm not ready to do. I'm not doing

682
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: hotel all I need to be on one. But I've

683
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: had enough trauma that you being a disgruntled actor or

684
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: even cursing in my face and like seeming physically intimidating

685
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: in front of me. In my mind, I'm like, I

686
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: wish you.

687
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 8: Now.

688
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that, but that's the look. I'm like,

689
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: what you got? So so that mixed with what people

690
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: think I look like and how But I also have

691
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: this mom voice that will come what I was. What

692
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that I need you to do is

693
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: go from there to there. And but then I'm nice

694
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: to you too, like you have to pull everything out.

695
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: I gotta be your mother. I gotta be your girlfriend.

696
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes I gotta be your sister. I gotta be your boss,

697
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: I gotta there's a whole uh my job, and what

698
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: I'm very good at is figuring out what you need.

699
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: What does this actor need for me to get the

700
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: best performance. And at the end of the day, they

701
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: most of them, I would I think have left feeling

702
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: like I know what I'm doing and they trusted me

703
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: and and you know, and then some of them want

704
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: to be friends with them. Some I hope I never

705
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: see you again, but but they would never know it.

706
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: But don't you feel that way about the band? Like

707
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: you're a suit me saying this?

708
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: She's saying this now, and I've learned so I learned

709
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 2: already that when a person worries, you're basically politely praying

710
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: that something bad does happen to you. I hope I

711
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: don't get attacked in this subway. I hope I don't

712
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: get ran over by a car. I hope my wife

713
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: don't catch me, you know, like weird weird one. But

714
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: for the last two years sort of riding the fence

715
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: of why me and why now and what's the catch here?

716
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: And then she's saying this, and I'm realizing, Ah, fucking universe,

717
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: I get this now. The universe knows I hate confrontation.

718
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't like confrontation either.

719
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: I despise. I know I have Richard Nichols for that.

720
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Don't let that verse go?

721
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but you know now I'm realizing, ah, damn,

722
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: this is.

723
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: God because this thing.

724
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: It's one thing when you're doing documentaries, like for me,

725
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: I will say that what I'm working on now is

726
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: it's not summer of soul, you know what I mean

727
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: in terms of like people talking about a joyous time whatever,

728
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: like because I'm talking about.

729
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: Trauma and shit.

730
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: So getting answers out of my subjects is like, like,

731
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: I feel like I should be a qualified paralegal, like

732
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: the lawyer levels that I'm going to get the answer

733
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: that I need you to give and coax it out

734
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: of you. And it's just like, ah, damn, what if

735
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: this is the universe forcing me in this, like to

736
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: be a people person something.

737
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: That you're from. I hate people, you know.

738
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: But now that you're saying this, and I'm realizing, damn,

739
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: this is what the next six years of my life

740
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: is about to be.

741
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna have to talk to people.

742
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: And you'll learn so much about I don't know, I say,

743
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: grace right now, I'm here, But you learned so much

744
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: about communication with people. I mean, Okay, he don't do

745
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: he needs help with it because I have to deal

746
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: with so many different people and as. But really, in

747
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: the position listen, I can't argue I'm not going to

748
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: argue with any actors. I'm not going to argue with

749
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: your stars, not really argue because you could walk off

750
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: the set. Now I can't shoot, so because my job

751
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: is also so let's get this day going. So sometimes

752
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, in my mind, you may be talking crazy

753
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: to me. Do I engage?

754
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: No?

755
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: I can't engage because that's an argument.

756
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: Is that what?

757
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Because whenever I'm on to set, I'm talking about like

758
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: when I was doing videos, whatever, the annoying person, the

759
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 2: guy that yells and all that stuff. Like I always

760
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: know is that the directors just sits in front of

761
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: the watch the daily's screen and all that stuff and

762
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: really doesn't say much.

763
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: It comes the AD doesn't talk to the actors for me.

764
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: No, you don't allow that for you or in.

765
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: General on it on the kind of shows that I'm doing,

766
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: absolutely not Okay. He can call and tell you it's time,

767
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: you know, it's time to shoot or something, but any

768
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: if to No, it's all me.

769
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: I always thought the job of the AD would sort

770
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: of be the bad cop, so that you don't have

771
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: to that would.

772
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: Be my bad cop. As far as production, let let

773
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: them know this information. This is why we're not shooting

774
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 3: right now. This is why it's going to take longer.

775
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry we brought you in earlier, but this is

776
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: this happened that kind of thing. But any problems on

777
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: a set when we're talking about the work, what I

778
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: need you to do, what this character is going to do,

779
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: why it's not working, blah blah blah, that's all me.

780
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, So.

781
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: When you're doing a series, yeah, and you aren't the

782
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: showrunner of said series, how do you navigate your job

783
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: as a director? Because okay, for instance, there was there

784
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: was an episode of Boardwalking Pyre that I watched that

785
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: Marty Scorsese directed, okay, and I would have had no

786
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: clue that he did it because I didn't see none

787
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: of the film A school marker, like none of his trademark,

788
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 2: yeah scorsesesms or whatever. And I realized that, oh well,

789
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: he sort of has to fit into the shell of

790
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: what the show is. How do you know when you

791
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: get called for a show, how much leverager leeway are

792
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: you allowed to or are you even one of those

793
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: directors that's thinking of like what your trademark is like

794
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: you know.

795
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you find a way. And again that's why

796
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: I kind of had a goal of the platform, Like really,

797
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: my end goal was to get to a platform like

798
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: HBO where you have more freedom to be who you

799
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: are as a director. So when you're going on some

800
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: of these earlier shows, absolutely there is a style you

801
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: have to fit into it, but you find a way

802
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: to infuse some of you into their show. Otherwise they

803
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: could hire anyone. So why do they Why do they

804
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: bring you back? So maybe I have a few shots

805
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: that maybe pushing the envelope a little bit, but it's

806
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: definitely what I like to do. I always say I

807
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 3: like the camera moving a lot, and I love doing

808
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 3: long runners. So most of the time you'll find that

809
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: in my episode somewhere in there might be a long runner.

810
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to ask what was some of

811
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: your I guess your techniques and winning time that you use.

812
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: That's a good example. That's the show which it has

813
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: to look like vintage, you know.

814
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he came in second season too, Well, I start,

815
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: I did the first season. I did the last two

816
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: episodes of the first season.

817
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: So how much micromanaging does the screenwriter do in terms

818
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: of like, so, what have you decided I don't want

819
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: to use this grain of like are you allowed to

820
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: make a radicus.

821
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, that is established what the look

822
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: is going to be. But I find that particular show

823
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: we're using so many different formats that I really have

824
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 3: a lot of freedom. So I definitely there's a lot

825
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: of that style in me. I mean, they're is a

826
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: lot of I say, in the action, you'll see a

827
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: lot of pushing and pulling shots that are mine. Again,

828
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: there will be a lot of shots where it's a

829
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: long wonner, where there's a lot of handoffs. That means

830
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: think of a classic uh, good fella shot I love

831
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: at the table, good fellow, the whole restaurant when you

832
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: first I well, I love blocking, and so blocking a

833
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: shot like that with that that takes a lot of prep,

834
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: and that would just everything about that shot is perfect.

835
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: I love that shot. There's a shot in this movie

836
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 3: called Rush that does about Yes, there's a big long

837
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: shot like that too, love it, love it. So you'd

838
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: see a lot of that in my work. You'll see

839
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: a lot of energy, pushing and pulling. You'll see lower angles,

840
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: You'll see that stuff that comes in really intimately. So

841
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: I could winning time was perfect for that. I could

842
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: pretty much do whatever I wanted to there within even

843
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: though the format of how we shot it was set

844
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: in stone, I could still do most of me in

845
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: there too, which is I think part of the reason

846
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: they brought me back to produce the next season and

847
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: to direct half of it, because they liked what I

848
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: did in the last two episodes. And I feel like

849
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: the show, you know, kind of found its real sweet spot.

850
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: You know, it takes a show a second. You know,

851
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 3: Adam set up an amazing pilot, but then it takes

852
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: a second for things to really you know, get mixed

853
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: and work, you know, bake, and by the second season,

854
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: you know, we could really get in there and fine

855
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: tune some things.

856
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: Do you question I had to that point.

857
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 5: So a lot of times with TV, we're talking to

858
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: directors and talking to just a lot of actors. A

859
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 5: lot of times they'll tell you most television shows don't

860
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 5: really hit their stride until probably like season three or

861
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 5: you know, but now shows don't even get that much

862
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 5: of a chance. How do you, as a director, how

863
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 5: do you adapt to that this kind of landscape.

864
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: Whit I mean, there's nothing you can do it just

865
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 3: hope that I don't know, it's so hard. I think

866
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: with you know, Winning Time. It's also a very, very

867
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: expensive show to make, so it's hard to just let

868
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: it hit its stride. Although I felt like this second

869
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: season so you were really falling into a nice spot.

870
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: But you know, the things have changed down here, and

871
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: you know, in the business, who knows. I don't know

872
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: the decision making. I know I did what I was

873
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: supposed to do and people are loving it, and you know,

874
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: I just kind of blow where the wind takes me.

875
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: How do they determine what is a successful series and

876
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: worth investigating as opposed to not nowadays? Because I mean,

877
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: if we're Winning Time, they're not going on or they're

878
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: not sharing.

879
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Nielsen rating still.

880
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: For network TV, it's different on on those platform I.

881
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: Know, for streaming or whatever, they don't share the numbers.

882
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: You don't know, So I mean to to sort of

883
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: prematurely yank it before it gets its chance to really

884
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: unfurl and reveal itself.

885
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: Like I think, there's so many factors. There's so like

886
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: is it getting is it getting awards? Is it getting

887
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: nominated that maybe even if it wasn't.

888
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: Getting Lovecraft like that got so many that left for

889
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: another reason, right, Like that didn't even have anything to

890
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: do with no that was creative.

891
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there were some things going on. Yeah,

892
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 3: So there's so many there's so I heard Casey Bloyse,

893
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 3: who's you know they head to HBO. I heard him

894
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 3: on a podcast talking and there's just so many factors.

895
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: It can be a show that is like artistically fantastic,

896
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: that doesn't cost them a lot and may not be

897
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: getting but is getting all the great reviews, may not

898
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 3: be getting all the numbers, but maybe that show can

899
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: come back because it's getting some of the artistic things

900
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: they want and doesn't cost that much to make, so

901
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: it works, you know. So there's all these different factors

902
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: he was talking about on this podcast.

903
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 7: So again, so do you attribute the success of the

904
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 7: Gilded Age to that?

905
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: To the what you just.

906
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 7: Said about awards and whatnot, because now there are I.

907
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 3: Mean, we got things for behind the scenes, but actors

908
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: weren't getting it the show, you know, but we don't

909
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 3: even know. I mean this is the second scene and

910
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 3: Gilded we had our second season winning time. I think

911
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 3: Gilded is going to be you know, and we don't

912
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: know about the season three of Gilded until it's out

913
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: and we see what the numbers are. I think that

914
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: the second season of Gilded is fantastic and fun, you know,

915
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: so who knows? But also about winning time was about

916
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know right right?

917
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 2: So okay, when you when you got the Gilded Project,

918
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: what was your please?

919
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: I was like, how did I get this?

920
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: Please? Tell us?

921
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, like, what was your knowledge of life in

922
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: the eighteen hundreds?

923
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: At the same knowledge that anybody else has?

924
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Right fast?

925
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: If you think about it, like had you heard of

926
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: the Gilded Age? Even listen, white, black, blue man, woman,

927
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: nobody who's living in the eighteen hundreds? Most people are

928
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: not historians.

929
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: But there's always some historian like, well, actually they you know.

930
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: We have, But I have you there to fulfill, you know,

931
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: to tell me what that stuff is. I was a

932
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: lover of period pieces. I've always loved them. I had

933
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: watched all of Down to Abbey. I had if you

934
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: say on the list, I would love like Dangerous Liaisons.

935
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 3: I have to watch that over and over, you know. Anyway,

936
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: So when that opportunity came up to UH to meet

937
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 3: with them, I was ready and I had done enough.

938
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: I hadn't done a show like that, and they were

939
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: looking for a black woman in particular, I think, to

940
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: fill that role because they knew they were going to

941
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: have this black family in it, and they also knew

942
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: they needed a woman's point of view because of what

943
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: the show was. And so I met and I just

944
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: told them about my love of the show. I'm very

945
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: good with detail. I'm a good student of things. So

946
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: somehow or another I convince them, like I did when

947
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: I moved to LA and convinced William y'all should sign me.

948
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: I ain't got no tape, but I can do it.

949
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: I was, I'm good again, I'm good in to interview.

950
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: I convinced and I can do this, and they said yes,

951
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: and and and then that because of COVID, because initially

952
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: I was only supposed to do two episodes, and then

953
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: COVID happened, and that's part of the thing that launched

954
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 3: it into me then producing and doing more of the episodes. Uh,

955
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: and grew into this deal at HBO. It was like

956
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: this whole weird thing that I don't even know how it.

957
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: Has all deal.

958
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 7: You mean you're over me to Sally Richards and Whitfield

959
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 7: HBO overall deal, which I don't Most people don't even

960
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 7: understand what that means but congratulations, This.

961
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: Means that you can develop your own projects there.

962
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just give me a certain amount of

963
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: money and I'm exclusive to them and everything.

964
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: Yo. Black Dynamite is one of my favorite movies. You

965
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: bodyed it well, Thank you, thank you mother.

966
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So I first became aware of you, of posse.

967
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: Could you talk about the process that led to Mario

968
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: hiring you?

969
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 6: So?

970
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: I think I actually got the audition, I mean through

971
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: my agent. But I had met Blair Underwood somehow in

972
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: La you know, i'd been there a little about it,

973
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: you know that year, right, met him at a party

974
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: and he told Mario. I think he told Mario about

975
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 3: me and said I'd be perfect for this film. She's

976
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: black and American Indian. Right. So I go in an

977
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: audition with everybody else and I got down to the

978
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: last few. But then they hired someone else. I'll tell

979
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: you who that was in a secondly, because it's okay,

980
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: I can tell you. Wait a minute. Is this a

981
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: thing where they hired someone else and they were shooting

982
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: and they say.

983
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, And then it comes down to you.

984
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 3: They were shooting and they were like I got a call. Okay,

985
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: So I don't get it. I'm sad because I was like,

986
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: who else can be? But at that time, my hair

987
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: legit was down here, dead straight. I'm like, my mama

988
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: has always told me we got charity, and I am American,

989
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: and I got a picture of my great grandmother and

990
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: she is two braids, and I'm pretty sure my mama

991
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: ain't lying anyway, So I don't get it. And then

992
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: one day I get a call on it Saturday and

993
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, they have fire the actress. Can you

994
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: be here later on tonight? You're shooting Monday. That person

995
00:56:53,080 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 3: is stay and I think she got there and whatever.

996
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I heard there was some you know,

997
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: it wasn't going well, difficult anyway. I don't know I

998
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: went there. But all I know is I got a

999
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: call Saturday and Monday I was shooting.

1000
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: How did you feel when you got I.

1001
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: Still remember where I was. I was at some guy's house.

1002
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: I was dating, and I don't even know if I

1003
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: had time to think, you know, I was just like, oh,

1004
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: I got it.

1005
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: Was just Saturday, and you start on Monday.

1006
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if I started now. I started

1007
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: that week. I was there. Whatever hair they had got

1008
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: for her track. They put that in my head and

1009
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: put that.

1010
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 6: Happened on me.

1011
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: I was, how much preparation did you have to to do?

1012
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just started. I don't you know.

1013
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: It's been a while, but it's not like I had

1014
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: that many deep lines. I already wrote. I knew how

1015
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: to ride and stuff. So getting ready for another movie audition,

1016
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: I had learned, you know, Glenn Turman has a ranch.

1017
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: So I had met some people who took me to

1018
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: Glenn Turman's ranch and Glenn taught me how to like

1019
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: really ride. So I was ready. I was like, I

1020
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: got there. I had a young brain. I could memorize anything.

1021
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: Now I'd be like, well, I need two weeks to

1022
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 3: memorize this. And I was there and I was shooting,

1023
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: and I'm there with Tone Loak and Big Daddy Kane

1024
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: and yes At Melvin and Mario and and Pam Greer

1025
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: and I mean, we had all sorts of people there.

1026
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: It was a it was a dream. It like it's

1027
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: a blur in my mind. We used to play during

1028
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: our breaks, like on the weekend, we would play basketball.

1029
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: I remember tiny I was still good in basketball then.

1030
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: I could still because when I first was out here,

1031
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: I would do that. That's when they used to do

1032
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: celebrity basketball tournaments, So I used to play in all

1033
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 3: of those games. I was still I was still pretty decent.

1034
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: Then what's your position?

1035
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 6: Lists this entire tablets.

1036
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 7: Played center on my boys and Girls club basketball team.

1037
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: I played the sports here we go. No you have

1038
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: you got it, bron, I don't know nothing much for it.

1039
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, it was. We had the best time

1040
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: on that movie.

1041
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I wanted to ask you about low down,

1042
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 5: dirty Shane, which is probably my favorite role of yours, right,

1043
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 5: like straight up and down. And I was thinking about

1044
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 5: what you were saying earlier about how directors it is

1045
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 5: read that you were pushed in some ways. I think

1046
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 5: the reason why I really liked that role is because

1047
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 5: that was the first time that I remember kind of

1048
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 5: seeing you as a villain, and I just thought, I

1049
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 5: was like, yo, I want to see more. Sally is

1050
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 5: like the villain, like just straight up, you know, just

1051
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 5: you know.

1052
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: So unfortunately, you know, also, I came up at a

1053
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: time where there wasn't that many it wasn't that many

1054
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 3: jobs we were It was really all of us, Me Jada,

1055
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: h Nia, Everybody's going for the same thing, and Jada

1056
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: nia few people kind of they were already there. Honestly,

1057
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: they had started a little sooner than me. You know,

1058
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: people start taking off and there's just not a lot

1059
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: of spots for you. But also when I talk about

1060
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: not being pushed there, I also have been given that

1061
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 3: many roles where there was an opportunity to push me

1062
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: to do something that different.

1063
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 5: You know, what would be an example of something now,

1064
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 5: a role now that you would.

1065
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: Or a role that you went after that close but

1066
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: no cigar moment.

1067
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh, those are so many. I mean probably every every

1068
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: movie you've seen another black actress the lead in, we

1069
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 3: all knew. We all went out for the same thing.

1070
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: Remember I said I screen test me. I think Tisha

1071
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 3: Campbell was there too, and then Jada for Nuttie Professor

1072
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: and they gave it to Jada. Yeah, I think it

1073
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 3: was the three of us testing.

1074
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: So, Okay, when you talk about testing, what is the

1075
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: process of testing, because I've heard like, okay, he's coming recold.

1076
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: For those are auditions. Those are like the yes's.

1077
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: Testing, like a chemistry test to see chemistry, character gets along.

1078
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 3: And when I say a screen test, that's a whole

1079
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: different thing. So when I said rage and Harlem, I

1080
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: read with Forrest on a set in full hair, makeup, costume,

1081
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 3: him and costume. We're doing a scene from the movie

1082
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: being filmed on the cameras. That's like, it looks like

1083
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: the movie almost.

1084
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: How often does that process happen now? Still or not?

1085
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't think as much, Nutti Professor, same thing. Eddie

1086
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: came out in full on makeup. I'm their hair makeup

1087
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 3: you're in. I think we were in a lab or

1088
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 3: something and we did a scene from the movie and

1089
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: they filmed this same data. Got what's funny is that?

1090
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: What's funny is that's what my hair looks like this?

1091
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 3: And then I saw the movie and it was a yeah,

1092
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: Jada's wig, so my hair was just like that. And

1093
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Speaker 3: then they did the movie. I said, they put my

1094
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 3: hair on. That's what I decided, because you know, she

1095
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: had really short hair. I said, what is this in.

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Speaker 1: Your in your acting fees?

1097
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: Like for you, are movies the the ultimate goal or

1098
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: the security of a series?

1099
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: Well, as an actress, you want the security of you know,

1100
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: if you could get a scandal, listen, you move because

1101
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: most of the time, unless you are the big A

1102
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 3: list actor, you're not making that much to do a film,

1103
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: you know, maybe you know, maybe a few hundred thousand

1104
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: dollars which will last you for a little while, you.

1105
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 2: Know, back to my original analogy. So a small role

1106
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: as the girlfriend or whatever, any movie that's just enough

1107
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Speaker 2: for maybe if you're two months three months out here.

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Speaker 3: A small role or what are you talking about? Like

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 3: my role in Low Down? Yes, probably that was my

1110
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: biggest paycheck, main character in that one. Yeah, so that

1111
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: gave me enough money to live on for a little while.

1112
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: And again I'm going, in my mind, I think that

1113
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: the people need to have more of this mindset. I

1114
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: go because everyone else is mine. They're like, oh you well,

1115
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: because people are telling you that, ooh you about to

1116
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: take off, right, it's about to be it. In my mind,

1117
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 3: I already knew at that point. Yeah, I'm not trusting it.

1118
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: Do you book a project at a time or do you?

1119
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to stack?

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Speaker 3: Of course if you can. Again, at that time, there

1121
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of too stack. I don't know what

1122
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: I did. I don't know what I did after that.

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Speaker 3: So are you frugal enough?

1124
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Speaker 7: They're doing Low Down?

1125
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Speaker 3: Dirty shame?

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Speaker 7: After that, you were still in your one bedroom or

1127
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 7: did you go i'most step it up and get two.

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Speaker 3: Listen when we were when we were shooting, when we

1129
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 3: were shooting low down, dirty shame. I and I had

1130
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 3: done Posse and some other small things. I still had

1131
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 3: that six hundred dollar car.

1132
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 7: Wowkauy of that.

1133
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: I drove to La n and Jada and Keenan. They

1134
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: were like, listen, you have got to get a new car.

1135
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: And I did remember. I remember pulling up on the

1136
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 3: set and they all, you know, Jada had been on

1137
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: some series and they got nice cars. I would meet

1138
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 3: people at parties and at restaurants and I would not vow.

1139
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: Because that's what I was going to ask. And I

1140
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: know that.

1141
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: Well, at some point, like I couldn't put my window down.

1142
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: It was you know, it looked good. You know. Again,

1143
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: I was like, so I finally like, least a truck

1144
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: did at least ah, well, you know everybody has an SGUV.

1145
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: Yes.

1146
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 7: I didn't know if he was going how she'd be

1147
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 7: we I was gonna be a rabnet.

1148
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, I leased a car.

1149
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I was afraid, you know, I

1150
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 3: was just afraid. I was afraid of being broke. I'm

1151
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: in I didn't have I have lovely parents, I have

1152
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 3: a very supportive family, but there wasn't an wasn't a

1153
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: bunch of money to be sending to help me, and

1154
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: nor did I ever ask. So I moved to l A.

1155
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: This was my choice. I have to make. I'm out

1156
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 3: here on my own and not not to say I

1157
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: couldn't have gone back to Chicago and had a place

1158
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: to go. Like again, I love my family that would

1159
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 3: have done anything for me. But I never had to

1160
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: ask for anything.

1161
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: And was there a.

1162
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: Moment where you're just like, I'm out here like no,

1163
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: so you just never no matter how not.

1164
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 3: That I wasn't at home weeping and crying and when

1165
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: am I going to work? And just I did weep

1166
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 3: and cry about that stuff. I was like, that's not

1167
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 3: in front of people, that's by myself. You know, you

1168
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: know you have that depression. I haven't worked in three,

1169
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 3: four or five months? Is what's the next thing going

1170
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: to be? But I always worked enough to keep going.

1171
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 3: I never and I never spent beyond my means. I

1172
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: never I was always because I just didn't. You know,

1173
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: when you come from not having everything you want, you

1174
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: should be conservative. I think you're on both sides, or

1175
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: you just start spending all your money.

1176
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 7: So are you the person now that like, since we're

1177
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 7: going through this long asst right, people are now calling like, Sally,

1178
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 7: how did you do it? Like, Sally, help me get

1179
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 7: through it? Like you just seem maybe in that way

1180
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 7: because people.

1181
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: I've been telling I've been telling everyone listen, I don't

1182
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 3: know how Like my assistant, I kept going, Hey, we

1183
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: don't know how long the strike is going to be.

1184
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm still getting my money and everything they haven't,

1185
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 3: which means I can still pay you. But anything could happen,

1186
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 3: So don't get comfortable. I know everybody must be jealous

1187
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: of that, because if you ain't, if they ain't paying me,

1188
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: you ain't get paid because I don't have I don't

1189
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 3: have it like that, you know. So I've been with her.

1190
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: I see people. I judge people all the time. During

1191
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 3: this time, I've been seeing some of my friends or

1192
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: some of the people in my director's group going on

1193
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: trips and stuff, and I'm knowing that they don't work

1194
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 3: as much as I do, you know, like you know

1195
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 3: where I'm like, I'm like, uh, why they on that

1196
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: trip I'm like, they got something going on. I don't know,

1197
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 3: but I'm like, okay, I'm glad.

1198
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm not the only person. And things like that, like

1199
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: I'll see somebody like I'm.

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 3: Judging people well, and I'm judging your money. I don't

1201
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: know what you got all the time.

1202
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: How did you maintain your sanity in a straight but

1203
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 2: also your creativity? And really was the rule that you're

1204
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: not supposed to do any work whatsoever?

1205
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 3: Well, I can do stuff on like me and my

1206
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 3: manager can talk about stuff. You know. I have projects

1207
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 3: that I've been developing for a while that I can

1208
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 3: do stuff on my own. I'm sitting there. I have

1209
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 3: to make like my pitch decks. I have a documentary

1210
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: that I'm working on in which I can do so

1211
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 3: I've been working on this like sizzle. I've been able

1212
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: to pitch some of my documentary stuff. So, you know,

1213
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 3: So I've been able to do some things. And and

1214
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: then I've you know, drove my husband a little crazy

1215
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 3: because probably everything in our every drawer in our house

1216
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: has been reorganized. We're we're onto the garage. I'm not

1217
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 3: like right now, I was audience. I have a back injury.

1218
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: I am not good I can't not do. I'm a doer.

1219
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: You can't relax.

1220
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 3: I'm a twenty fource. And maybe one day and then

1221
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: after that, I'm like, I'm being real irresponsible. Right now

1222
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 3: I need to get up. I'm gonna I just have

1223
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: to do something. So I'm like, well, I got nothing

1224
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 3: else to do. We're gonna reorganize the house. We're gonna

1225
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 3: do this. I've been needing to get this done because.

1226
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: I wanted you to be silent, and I have.

1227
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: I found that's why I got COVID and then I

1228
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 3: got hurt.

1229
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 7: My back set you down, literally.

1230
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: But but I've been watching stuff on the on my

1231
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: side as I lay in the bed on my side.

1232
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: But I've learned that if you're sitting aroun not doing,

1233
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 3: things get done not they don't get done, and things

1234
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 3: move ahead because there's other people doing this last year.

1235
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 7: Uh.

1236
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: And a lot of that is through having this HBO

1237
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 3: deal and kind of coming into my own enough that

1238
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 3: I go, I'm not getting this work because I'm a woman.

1239
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: I'm not getting this work because I'm black. I'm getting

1240
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 3: these jobs now because I really am the best person

1241
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: for this job. And luckily and now they can also

1242
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 3: check these boxes off. You know, it's like some added

1243
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: little thing. So I think somewhere in that confidence has

1244
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 3: made me go, you can relax a little bit. We like,

1245
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 3: we had a big group trip. We all went to

1246
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: South Africa together, which was not a cheap trip trip.

1247
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: With like that.

1248
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 3: I have some fancy friends, Jeff and Nicole Friday from ABFF.

1249
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 3: Jeff and Nicole liked I'm shouting them out. They like

1250
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 3: to travel nicely, so they forced me out of my

1251
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 3: comfort zone. And my husband's very happy because you know,

1252
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: he could just kind of let me be who I

1253
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 3: am and just shakes his head. But we had a

1254
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 3: fabulous trip, so I was like, Okay, we're gonna go

1255
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 3: take this once in a lifetime trip with my children.

1256
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 3: And my daughter and I took a trip before she

1257
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: went to college. So I've been able to relax a

1258
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: little bit. And then I come back and then I

1259
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: get a moment of being afraid or we spend too

1260
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: much money, But you know, you have to enjoy this stuff.

1261
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 5: I want to ask you about Dondre. I've had a

1262
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 5: chance to meet him. This has been a couple of years.

1263
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,480
Speaker 5: Back on Queen Sugar Good Buddy my Omar that plays Hollywood.

1264
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 5: We hung out in New York one night and he

1265
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 5: was coolest dude. You know what I'm saying. I don't

1266
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:57,839
Speaker 5: know how he is at home.

1267
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: But with us, it's been twenty we've been together twenty

1268
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: six years.

1269
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: Question, how do y'all? Because I think I think it's.

1270
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 5: Like y'all and like Courtney and Angela Bassett, like.

1271
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: Y'all, like one of the only.

1272
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 3: Surviving no pressure, no pressure now now because now now

1273
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 3: you just jinxes. That's like watching golf. He's been making

1274
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: this but all you got to miss it now, Okay.

1275
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: Go ahead, How did all survive for so long? What?

1276
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: What you know?

1277
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 5: It's specifically and not just in a mess, but just

1278
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 5: I mean too creative as professionals.

1279
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's a lie.

1280
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 7: You directed him?

1281
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: You know what? I don't know? Andre and I obviously

1282
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: we we love each other very much. We have two

1283
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: very I think a lot of it. We have two

1284
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: very happy children. And once you're you know, my my

1285
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 3: son's going into heigh it just is a freshman this year,

1286
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: and my uh, my daughter is. It's film and pure.

1287
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 3: So you look at your children and but you know,

1288
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 3: you look at your children, and that's also a motivating

1289
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 3: factor of that, no matter what our issues are, we

1290
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: need to figure this out. We got happy, We got

1291
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 3: a happy little family here, and there's a you know,

1292
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: there's a mutual respect there and I don't know, we're

1293
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: both very competitive and that competitive nature of Oh no,

1294
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna stay together. We committed to this. They're gonna

1295
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 3: figure this out. Also, somehow, I think we both know

1296
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 3: if you look out here, ain't nothing. There's nothing out

1297
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 3: here in the street. And I mean, honestly, I mean

1298
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: for me, like what we're come on, you get to

1299
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 3: a certain age? What what? What? Who I'm on? Meet now?

1300
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 3: And who's gonna treat me like my husband treats me?

1301
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh because I put out the fat. Yeah, Steve is

1302
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: in mare for him right now. Shoot, the silence are good.

1303
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 3: But my husband treats he really does treat me like

1304
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 3: a queen. He takes care of me almost every morning.

1305
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: He knows my coffee I want if I'm still, if

1306
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: I happen to sleep late, he is bringing that coffee

1307
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: up there for me.

1308
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: That's my question. Yeah, what is your morning routine? What

1309
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: what do you one?

1310
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: What time do you automatically wake up without the clock

1311
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: waking you up, and what's the first thing you do

1312
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: in the first half hour of your day?

1313
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 3: Uh?

1314
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: If we're a habitual right.

1315
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 3: Fact, most of the time, my eyes will open at

1316
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 3: six thirty in the morning. Unfortunately, I don't care. My

1317
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,919
Speaker 3: eyes just open. Probably we have three dogs. They probably

1318
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: made some noise in the room. Uh. Three. We have

1319
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 3: a Rottweiler, a golden Doodle and a crazy Frenchy.

1320
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: Do they like each other?

1321
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 3: Yes, they do, although our Frenchie and are Roddy are

1322
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 3: both males who are not fixed and are starting They

1323
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 3: starting to well, they grew up together because they're only

1324
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 3: about they're both like three, three and a half ish,

1325
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 3: and they've just that that loving friendship has changed and

1326
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: it's mostly the Frenchie is cool. He's like, if you

1327
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: don't mess with me, we good. He gets along with

1328
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 3: other dogs. But that Frenchie is insane anyway. So I

1329
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 3: let the dogs out if if I happen to, you know,

1330
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 3: sleep later, I'll have my coffee, go down and have

1331
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 3: my coffee, and usually I get up. I take the

1332
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 3: dogs on a hike, which is how I hurt my

1333
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 3: back because I slipped, and I take them out separately.

1334
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 3: I take the frenchie by himself for a short walk

1335
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 3: real quick, and then I come back for the other

1336
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 3: two because they can go on a long walk with me.

1337
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 3: So that sort of get my day going. And and

1338
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 3: then you know, nowadays it would be now I have

1339
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: maybe these three zoom calls during you know, zoom meetings

1340
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: or something, but it's usually and I don't eat till

1341
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 3: probably about twelve thirty one. I'll have a protein shake

1342
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 3: or something.

1343
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1344
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 3: I don't eat in the morning, and that's if I'm

1345
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 3: not working. Okay, you know working, you know, set four.

1346
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,919
Speaker 1: In the morning. Whatever. Okay, what what is your secret

1347
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: talent that you're allowed to say? Right right right?

1348
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, I always say I mean I do

1349
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 3: a lot of things. I mean, I'm a golfer. I'm

1350
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: a I don't know if that's so secret, but I.

1351
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: Think I know.

1352
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 7: Are you a part of the squad? So no, like

1353
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 7: that whole black female squad that goes down well.

1354
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,440
Speaker 3: No, I used to do a lot of the celebrity

1355
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 3: golf tournaments and stuff. I used to be actually very good.

1356
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 3: My son is a he's in golfer.

1357
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: He's what is it about golfing?

1358
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: Because a lot of my friends especially my black friends

1359
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: who are professionals. Yeah, like, is there a memo that

1360
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten yet? Like everyone turns forty five and

1361
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 2: suddenly like.

1362
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 3: Well, I've been playing for like least twenty five years.

1363
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 3: I had started playing because Andre played when we met.

1364
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: Is it fun or did you start at like golf

1365
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: and then top golf?

1366
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, I started playing golf. Richard Rowntree

1367
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: is one of the first people to help me play golf,

1368
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 3: Richard Rowntree and Richard Laws and I've had amazing people

1369
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 3: who have helped me play golf in the beginning, and

1370
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 3: then obviously my husband. I don't if you listen, I'm

1371
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 3: not gonna be doing any more pickup games of basketball

1372
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I think what it is is

1373
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 3: that golf is something Golf is something you can do

1374
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: by yourself, you can do in a group. It's highly therapeutic.

1375
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: You can take and smoke, it's highly competitive. It's a

1376
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 3: way for me to compete. I love to I love

1377
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 3: to compete, okay, and it's a way for me to

1378
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 3: do that. And it's it's a hard game. It will

1379
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 3: challenge you, like.

1380
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 2: How long did it take you to learn it? Because

1381
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 2: I feel like, now I'm gonna have to.

1382
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: No one has.

1383
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: One. Sorry, no. But the thing is is like, all right,

1384
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: for instance, uh, our friend Zara, who is no, but she's.

1385
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 2: Stuck in her uh kind of, she's stuck in her mood.

1386
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 2: She's stuck in her mood where like she loves chain restaurants,

1387
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, exactly, oh no you mentioned Chipotle.

1388
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: She'll like, she'll just die on the spot. However, you know,

1389
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 2: I'm telling her like, Okay, we're ramping up our games now,

1390
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: and you live in Los Angeles and we're doing these

1391
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: high powered meetings.

1392
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: You might have to learn.

1393
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: How to acclamant or adjust yourself to eating sushi. When

1394
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: she's her first response, yeah, I hate sushi. Whatever, I'm like, no,

1395
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: but like a lot of you know.

1396
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: People are gonna be running in.

1397
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: That's exactly You're gonna have to. We're gonna have to

1398
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: start adulting. And I feel like, for some reason, a

1399
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: lot of the high caliber power people that I'm running in.

1400
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: It's an expensive sport.

1401
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 7: So that's one thing too, right, Why it's not a

1402
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 7: brokeman's game. It's very expensive to play, right, So I

1403
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 7: mean that's why, Yeah.

1404
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 5: I hole so it's like you're walking from what I've

1405
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 5: heard is a lot of people to use it for networking,

1406
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 5: like because it's I mean it's eighteen, so you walk

1407
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 5: in you talking.

1408
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 3: There's definitely been like on sets on the weekend I'm

1409
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 3: on location, the producers like we're playing off. I'm like,

1410
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 3: I brought my clubs. I played, They're like, you play.

1411
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: It is something I've met a lot of people through golf,

1412
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 3: but I don't use it just for that. I love golf.

1413
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: It's fun. I watch it. Just stretch before you do it,

1414
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 3: mirror ever, just.

1415
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: Despite you, I'll tell you, I'll go with you. Matter

1416
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: of fact, why don't we all.

1417
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: Next game night, I'm taking everybody to the Top Golf.

1418
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm going let's get let's start you there, get a lesson,

1419
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 3: he says, top Golf.

1420
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

1421
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 7: I was like, that's not the same.

1422
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: No, I want to get you could get some.

1423
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: You know, you could get some swings in and not

1424
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 3: a physical.

1425
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: Game and you you cannot play right now in your

1426
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: current condition.

1427
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely not not because your back is ye stance. That

1428
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,839
Speaker 3: would not be a good choice, this injury.

1429
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 2: Can you name me all the non professional jobs that

1430
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 2: you used to have okay, always non industry related.

1431
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 3: So growing up, my grandmother had owned the dry cleaners,

1432
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 3: and that's some at one point at two to three

1433
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: of them, like you know. And so in Chicago, a

1434
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 3: lot of times in the high rises you have a

1435
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 3: uh they have a dry cleaner in the building. So

1436
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: so I used to work there every weekend in the summer,

1437
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 3: every day for my grandmother. So dry cleaners, copy store, okay,

1438
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: pizza place, taking orders and waiting tables at this Italian restaurant.

1439
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 3: And then I used to stuff envelopes for my mother

1440
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: at the at Chicago State University during a certain time

1441
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: during the year, you'd have she had to pay somebody,

1442
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 3: and I did it. I always had a little job.

1443
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: Cereal of choice.

1444
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 3: And then you're not fun in the morning, Okay. Back

1445
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: in the day, it would have been, uh, the frosted wheaties.

1446
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 3: Frosted wheaties. I love those things many I love those.

1447
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 3: I could eat those out the box.

1448
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 1: That's my top ten. I like that number six. Yeah,

1449
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: oh man, you scared me.

1450
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: Because I don't like it gets I have to when

1451
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 3: I would eat it, like I don't like Mike to

1452
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 3: get soggy, so I would have to, like put the

1453
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 3: milk in and eat it real quick while it was

1454
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 3: still crunchy. It gets all mushy and it's gross.

1455
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 2: And okay, I mean, what's your top, dude, I'm peanut,

1456
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: but a Captain crunch all day.

1457
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 7: No crunchberries.

1458
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 3: If you're gonna do a Captain crunch, you better do

1459
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 3: a cruncher. I don't know what You're.

1460
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Better eat them with a mouth guard. They're gonna cut

1461
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: up the top of the.

1462
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 3: Guys. No, the sugar puff, what is it?

1463
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 7: The what is it?

1464
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 3: The puff with the sugar.

1465
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: Tops, kicks, sugar corn pops? No golden crips? What's what's

1466
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: the name of the It was like.

1467
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 3: Toaster not No, I don't like that.

1468
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: No, I was not a Simon cookie.

1469
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: It's like I would get lucky charms. But just eat

1470
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 3: all the.

1471
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: You did last night. I got so Now they've made

1472
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: fruity pebbles with marshmallows.

1473
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 7: Now, none of that stuff tastes the same as kids like.

1474
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 3: So much sugar.

1475
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: It's not the same. I'm still part of the fruit loops.

1476
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: I think fruit loops.

1477
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, apple.

1478
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 6: Jackson of the day.

1479
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,919
Speaker 3: If you're asking me now, I'm gonna give you answers

1480
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 3: from back in the day because my eating habits have changed.

1481
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't eat here. I'm not gonna have a big

1482
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 3: sugar bomb in the morning. Yeah, that is not a

1483
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: good choice to start your day off.

1484
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, now she's giving.

1485
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: PCTAR mushrooms ended this morning. That's what I had. Mushrooms

1486
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 3: are the thing right now.

1487
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 1: There are you in the mushroom like drug mushrooms not drugs, drugs.

1488
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Magic ushrooms are just a little bit different than heroin. Yeah.

1489
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 1: I never with that. Yeah, let's do it.

1490
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 3: But at this point in my life, of course, not

1491
01:23:59,240 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 3: really what.

1492
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but been there done that sounds it'll help your tailbow.

1493
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 3: I'm one of those people at this point I would

1494
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 3: not like some of the chances I took as a

1495
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:13,799
Speaker 3: young person.

1496
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: You're not changing horses midstream.

1497
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 8: Now.

1498
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, I could, I could get that one crazy high,

1499
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: like something weird that changes my life, and I got

1500
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 3: responsibilities and kids. There's nothing, there is nothing, There is

1501
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 3: no high that I'm chasing. I look back at my

1502
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: life and I go, I'm very lucky that nothing crazy happened.

1503
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 3: So I'm a wrapping up and keep moving. A little

1504
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 3: wine and maybe a gummy or something. You started with mushrooms,

1505
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 3: but that's a psychedelic kind.

1506
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: Of it's a psychodap. But we talked about drugs.

1507
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 5: I'm talking about like the hard ship, like the White Ship,

1508
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 5: like scheduled to narcotics.

1509
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like any anything. It's like

1510
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: use that as a party drug.

1511
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 3: So it's yeah, like what yeah, but I'm not going

1512
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 3: to no more park we're talking about I'm doing.

1513
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's not happening. I don't consider mushrooms a

1514
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: party joke.

1515
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 3: And my husband's very straight. He's like, no drugs. He

1516
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 3: barely drinks.

1517
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 6: So busy cleaning the garage.

1518
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: I would be there. I'm the organize twenty seventeen coffee.

1519
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: How do you how you do your coffee?

1520
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 3: How do you know?

1521
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: I was going to ask that question because he knows

1522
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: where is your order at Starbucks? What's your Starbucks order?

1523
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 6: She doesn't go to Starbucks?

1524
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: Make your home. It's just my god.

1525
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: If I'm on the set and they say we're going

1526
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 3: to Starbucks, I will ask for two things. I will

1527
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: either say I want Americano with one cream, one sugar,

1528
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 3: or I will go, oh, today, I'm going to have

1529
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 3: a little dessert thing. Give me a I mocha half

1530
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: chocolate soy milk, and that would be no whip cream

1531
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 3: that was at home at home. So he has this

1532
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 3: mushroom coffee. I'm into the mushrooms, but I love but

1533
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 3: I love coffee, so I'm not saying you asked me

1534
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 3: about coffee. So I have my coffee. Listen, try this

1535
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: because in the morning, this thing will have you moving

1536
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 3: through your day. So I have my regular big cup

1537
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: of coffee ten ounces, and I put a tablespoon of

1538
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 3: the instant mushroom coffee in my coffee. And then, by

1539
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: the way, done this, and then I use a butter

1540
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 3: bomb in there that has the coconut oil and the

1541
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 3: d butter mixture thing. And that's why I don't eat

1542
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 3: till one because that kind of carries me.

1543
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: Puts a dab of coconut butter inside of his coffee,

1544
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 2: and what does that do something?

1545
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 3: It's really good. It's it's really good for your mental

1546
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: capacity energy that mixed with the mushroom stuff with like

1547
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 3: I'm so wait, what kind of butter was that again?

1548
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 6: And just butter bomb?

1549
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: Butter bomb or a coconut.

1550
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 3: That's a tight I'm asking, But it's a mixture of butter,

1551
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 3: coconut and this other something.

1552
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: But I can, I can vouch for this to put

1553
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: us onto it. I did it. It actually is.

1554
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 3: But this whole mixture with the mushroom in it is

1555
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 3: my I think is my It's my thing. I made

1556
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: it up because I don't want mushroom coffee. I want coffee,

1557
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 3: and so I was like, I could put it all

1558
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 3: on Wenesday.

1559
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: What it is coffee?

1560
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 3: And the yeah, are you coming at you don't drink coffee?

1561
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 7: Oh so you think he don't know?

1562
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 3: Okay, No, No, the mushroom because it's a mushroom coffee.

1563
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 3: I add the mushroom coffee powder into my regular coffee

1564
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: with the butter thing and no sugar.

1565
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: If coffee was really my jam, I'm one of these people.

1566
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm not Wow, we're talking about coffee, Steve. If you

1567
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 2: have not waiting yet, I'm thinking about snorting rice. Chrispis

1568
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: as much when I think of Starbucks, Like my Christmas

1569
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: gift to Steve is always like you probably ran out.

1570
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: Already gold Starbucks card or something. It's like a lifetime supply.

1571
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: All right, for Halloween? What is your costume?

1572
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 6: Wait, we're already office all right, shit, Okay, we're still

1573
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 6: talking about No, I'm obsessed, but let's talk about Halloween.

1574
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 3: Okay. The last Halloween that we went to was a

1575
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 3: dress up as your because they were people were performing

1576
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: on stage two and doing a thing. So I went

1577
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 3: as Vanity.

1578
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 1: Wow, yes you did.

1579
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 3: I went as Vanity. I wore her little outfit, you know,

1580
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 3: but what I was going to and then I chickened down.

1581
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 3: Wait which Vanity from the actual movie. Vanity opened the video,

1582
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 3: and so I had I got. I rented a tuxedo jacket,

1583
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 3: and I had hotelingerie and the heels I went.

1584
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 6: I went.

1585
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: That's how I went.

1586
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Nice. Do you do you go karaoke? Like at all? No,

1587
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: you started out as a singer.

1588
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 3: But I don't like karaoke. It's not my thing. Okay,

1589
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: because you go and then it's not in the key

1590
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: you need to be I'm judging, it's like it's too no.

1591
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 6: No, those songs are always higher than.

1592
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 3: You think, they're always highed like.

1593
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: Any bon jovie song.

1594
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 6: Ever, you're like, I got this ship, and then and

1595
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:39,560
Speaker 6: then you get to the chorus of Blaze of the

1596
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 6: Glory and you're like, I don't gotten this ship.

1597
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 3: And then they give me this book like this, I

1598
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 3: can't make it.

1599
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:54,759
Speaker 1: It's like it's a lot judging.

1600
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: Okay, For me, I discovered that I have to go

1601
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: back to me as a nine, ten, eleven year old

1602
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: and discover fun for that person. For you, what is

1603
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 2: your one Do you allow yourself to ever become an

1604
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: eleven year old at this stage in your life? And

1605
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 2: what is it that you do for fun? Do you

1606
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 2: play Monopoly when no one's watching? Do you watch Tom

1607
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 2: and Jerry play spades? Am I really making you uncomfortable

1608
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 2: right now?

1609
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 3: Well, because I'm thinking of my whole life is going.

1610
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 3: I'm going maybe I'm not doing enough things for fun.

1611
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 3: We do play spades. I don't know if I'm doing

1612
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 3: that all the time. But we used to a lot

1613
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 3: of things. I used to do like Donder and I

1614
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: used to be on a in a bowling league. We

1615
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 3: used to bowl a lot, okay, and golf more than

1616
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 3: he would say, I'm not playing much golf anymore. I

1617
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 3: start getting too into work, so I might h you

1618
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 3: may be telling me I need to have more fun

1619
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 3: because usually no.

1620
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 1: No, these are just random questions.

1621
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 3: You're or not. This is a hard question for me

1622
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 3: to answer. It would usually be getting together. We have

1623
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 3: sort of a couple's group. We all go out to dinner,

1624
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 3: and it's really hanging out with them and going to dinner.

1625
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 3: But that doesn't sound like that much fun. We're vacationing together,

1626
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 3: but it doesn't sound that exciting.

1627
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: You know, something I discovered the joys of silence.

1628
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 3: You know, I'm kind of you know how they say

1629
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 3: I would rather be at home. Sitting up in my

1630
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 3: house is comfortable. We have a nice little area outside.

1631
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 3: I can watch TV outside and sit there and be

1632
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 3: with my husband and with my dogs and chill.

1633
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 5: Okay, you know you have a guilty pleasure in terms

1634
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 5: of food or like we talked about all the healthy stuff.

1635
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do.

1636
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 5: What's like your you know when you just want to

1637
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 5: go to the abyss, Like what's the worst thing you eat?

1638
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 5: Like you just you buzzed down a quarter pounds like.

1639
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 7: Burger.

1640
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's ratchet Sally riches.

1641
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:00,040
Speaker 4: I think.

1642
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 3: Because so for many for a long time, I was

1643
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 3: like a vegan vegetarian. I've just started eating some meat

1644
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 3: sometimes now, so I think it would be some pizza

1645
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 3: and wings something like that. No, No, I want spicy.

1646
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 3: I went hot. Yeah, I've been enjoying some girls.

1647
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

1648
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:26,719
Speaker 7: And which.

1649
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 3: Right.

1650
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 1: She was like, god, she thought about the mouse sauce.

1651
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: She was like, holy ship, what.

1652
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Delian the truth.

1653
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: We're a very silly show.

1654
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 6: No, very serious about mushrooms, and we're a very silly show.

1655
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: You're asking me, serious ship, what you want. I'm giving

1656
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 3: you serious answers. Okay, but what's your Okay, my haralds

1657
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 3: it's been a long time, but my Harold's order would

1658
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: be say it like you at the counter, because okay,

1659
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 3: well I got to think about it because.

1660
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I remember, is my chicken heaven in Chicago?

1661
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 3: So you would get it's like a fried chicken plate

1662
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 3: and then there's French fries on it and some white bread,

1663
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 3: and so I always get, you know, like what is

1664
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 3: that like half a chicken or so I don't remember what,

1665
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 3: but I like the barbecue sauce and the hot sauce

1666
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 3: all over it, and I yeah, yeah, so like yeah,

1667
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 3: half Chad.

1668
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Yes, it has to be white bread. It has to

1669
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: be in Chicago.

1670
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 3: Rib tips, yes, sir, Yes, Chicago south Side. That is

1671
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 3: the city of rib tips, rib tips and white white

1672
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 3: wonderbread and some French fries.

1673
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you're here because it's been a while

1674
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 2: since we had a Chicago guest.

1675
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: On the show. You got to explain some things to me. Okay,

1676
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Number one, here we go. What's up with y'all? And

1677
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 1: this anti ketchup on hot dog thing?

1678
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 3: That's you know what? I like ketchup on my hot dogs.

1679
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, because you get when you go get a

1680
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:11,480
Speaker 3: Chicago hot dog, it's a pickle, these peppers and mustard.

1681
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Out the restaurant. Sometimes if you put ketchup on it, or.

1682
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 3: Or if you ordered a Chicago dogs insult to them. Yeah, yeah,

1683
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 3: I like ketchup. I think that's more of a white thing.

1684
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: Okay, defend your pizza.

1685
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 3: It's fantastic talking about Oh my god, the way she was.

1686
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 3: I used to work at a pizza place. I used

1687
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 3: to work at Eduardo's, which is like really thick pizza.

1688
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, not not to totally alienate an entire part of

1689
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 2: our listenership, I.

1690
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 3: Will just let me tell you.

1691
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: Could you recommend good, better spots in Chicago?

1692
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 3: Okay, so honestly on the what I do not remember

1693
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 3: the name of this. There's a place on like really

1694
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 3: south Side because my mom lives out like in the South.

1695
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm good, no, because he's because she lives out like

1696
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:11,959
Speaker 3: in the South suburbs.

1697
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 8: Now.

1698
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 3: But it's a thinner pizza that they have, But there

1699
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,799
Speaker 3: is a different taste to the sauce and the pizza

1700
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:22,560
Speaker 3: in Chicago.

1701
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Oh god, I wish I as opposed to it.

1702
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 3: No, no, because yours is super thin. Okay, right, The

1703
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 3: New York pizza is its own thing. It's fantastic. But

1704
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 3: there is a thinner crust pizza in Chicago that has

1705
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 3: like the sausage pizza with the grease in it, and

1706
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 3: the taste of that sauce is I think maybe it's

1707
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 3: neighborhood pizza or something. It is a you would love

1708
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 3: that pizza. If you don't like thick crust, fine, but

1709
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 3: you would love that pizza. I would put that pizza.

1710
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna text my mother before I leave here

1711
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 3: and find out the name of this pizza place. I

1712
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 3: would put that against a slice of New York pizza.

1713
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't have any.

1714
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 3: You don't have any.

1715
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I live in New York. But okay, but you know

1716
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm testing out their pizzas.

1717
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 7: But that you know what?

1718
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 3: Okay, So now, besides Harold's that pizza in Chicago, that

1719
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 3: kind of thin crust one with that grease and that

1720
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 3: Italian sausage. That and Chicago Chinese food is because they

1721
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 3: don't Chicago Chinese food is well, obviously that's what I

1722
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 3: grew up on, but like some egg food young from

1723
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 3: some it's a whole different Chinese.

1724
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 1: I came out of Chinese place. We went to there

1725
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: one night, David Yo, I tried David Wan's last night.

1726
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 6: I was losing hope changed my life as a Jew

1727
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 6: who loves Chinese food. Well, for whatever reason, that moment

1728
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 6: at that night, fancy Chinese or like, it's not.

1729
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 2: Hood, it's not hood, it's but it's not fancy, but

1730
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,719
Speaker 2: it's not hood. But they've mastered the art of salt

1731
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: and pepper chicken wings.

1732
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay, And.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my test is always egg foo young and shrimp

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Speaker 3: with lobster sauce. If it tastes a certain way, If

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Speaker 3: it's not right, then your restaurant ain't right.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is a salt pepper chicken.

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Speaker 6: It's like two dishes of what is probably like a

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01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 6: thousand dishes, but for those two are.

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Speaker 3: Big staples in a in a Chicago Chinese restaurant. We

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01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 3: should be able to make egg food young.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like you're about to fight.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: The Chicago.

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01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm a random dinner. I said you should have you

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01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 3: should have had some alcohol here. I might have been

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01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 3: a different person.

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01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: Less to meet back here tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Sad time.

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01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: We're going up a bit. But I have a few

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01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: more random questions.

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01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 3: If asked me about Gilded real quick, so I can

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01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 3: tell you about Okay, you kind of did. It's a

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01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 3: great season. It'll be fantastic.

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01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 1: Now what more would you like to be going?

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01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 3: I just want people it's about to come out, and

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01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 3: you know, I want to tell for for my black audience,

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01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 3: because we want all I want to say, who were

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01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 3: hungry for more of Peggy Yes, and the black elite.

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01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 7: She's not going to get hurt when she goes to

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01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 7: the South.

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01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 3: I'm not telling yeah, cool, But but she does go

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01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 3: but I can't say that she goes to meet booker

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01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 3: t Washington. So she does go to Tuskegee. So but

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01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 3: you get to see more of that because people were

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01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 3: hungry for it, because it was just the taste of

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01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 3: Obviously the show's not about that, but so I just

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01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 3: wanted to say that because people have been everywhere I go,

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01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 3: people are like, when's it coming back? Are we going

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01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 3: to see more Peggy? Yes, you are, and it's gonna

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01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 3: be great.

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01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of great. Well, they're just totally paled my

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01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: next question.

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01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 3: I just wanted to get people keep asking me someone

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01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 3: to tell them, go ahead, do y'all put.

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01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 7: A little extra extra funky on those clothes on the

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01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 7: wardrobe and gilded.

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01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 3: They spent a lot of money on those because they

1778
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 3: it seems, I mean, it's is brilliant. She is friend,

1779
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 3: this French woman, she is brilliant. They are all handmade,

1780
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 3: but you know, obviously the ones for the actors, for

1781
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 3: the main actors, they're all handmade for each of them.

1782
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 3: They are made with the most beautiful fabric. The hats

1783
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 3: are It's all about the hats.

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01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 7: This year I saw that.

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01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 3: It's just that's what I enjoyed so much in directing.

1786
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, if I if you show if

1787
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 3: she showed me a special piece, I'm like, don't worry, baby,

1788
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 3: we see you again. Yeah, yeah, come, I asked you

1789
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 3: a shallow QUI Wow.

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01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: It's like Jerry's.

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01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 6: Sally at seven on the look the funk out because

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01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 6: I kind of.

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01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: Wanted to ended on on rather apropoke question, what would

1794
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 2: you tell, oh lord, your seven year old self right now,

1795
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 2: shallow ship?

1796
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 1: See, they should have warned you about this show.

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01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 2: No, no, no, And some some guests are are a

1798
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 2: little thrown off because yeah, I mean, we could do

1799
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 2: the normal thing, like hey, what do you pluck? But

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01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 2: I want to get to the deep person, you know,

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01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: behind the project. What would you tell your seven year

1802
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 2: old self right now? Like you're given two minutes to

1803
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 2: time travel back to you at the age of seven,

1804
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 2: and opinion your parents did?

1805
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it really is one of

1806
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 3: those like you will make it through this. You will

1807
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 3: make it through this, and and I always say, and

1808
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay, like, uh, it's really you're gonna

1809
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 3: make it through this. You're gonna make it through this. Yes,

1810
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 3: it's great. What is it like to direct?

1811
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 7: Now? I'm sorry my last question, Gilda question, What is

1812
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 7: it like? I'm gonna say it one more time to

1813
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:27,520
Speaker 7: direct Audrey McDon.

1814
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 3: She's she's one of those people there's not much to

1815
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 3: do because she's brilliant, and she's kind and nice and

1816
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 3: easy and everything you would hope from someone who's that talented,

1817
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 3: like there's no issues and if I didn't, you know,

1818
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,560
Speaker 3: if I if that wasn't true, then I would have

1819
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 3: given you a quick, easy answer.

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01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: It's good.

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01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Thank you a good lady.

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01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: Well, my future mentor.

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01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 3: Sally, are you coming and shadowing? You ready? And then

1824
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 3: I'll come and talk to you about documentary work.

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01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 6: Who's like a round table?

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Speaker 1: Come on now? Well, I thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much for having me excited

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01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 3: when you guys call, thank you, thank you for putting

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01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 3: your touch on my favorite show.

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01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 2: And uh yeah when we haveing Font Digelo and m Paid,

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Speaker 2: Bill and Sugar, Steve and Layah this Quest Love.

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Speaker 1: Thank you a Salarbry you said Woodville for coming on

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Speaker 1: the show. And we'll see you on the next go round.

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Speaker 1: The Quest Love SUPREMEO.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you for listening to your Quest Love

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Speaker 2: Supreme Hosted by Amir Quest Love Thompson, Why You, Saint

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Speaker 2: Clair Sponte, Cole Sugar, Steve Mandel.

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Speaker 1: An Unpaid, Bill Sherman.

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Speaker 2: Executive producers are a Mere Quest Love Thompson, Sean g

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