1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vanderkam. I'm a mother of four, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger. On 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode one hundred and twenty nine, 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: which is airing in mid to late January. We're going 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: to be talking about the arrival of baby Henry. So 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: this is the birth story episode that maybe some people 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: have been waiting for. Probably others are like, wait, it 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: just showed up in my feed. Was there a baby? 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Maybe there was, I don't know, so exciting news. Well, 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: they're probably also hopefully excited for regular episodes to come 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: back and for us to be inserting lots of baby 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: updates along the way, since I know that can be 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: a popular topic for those with new ones and their 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: own So don't worry we have plenty of that to come. Yeah, 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great lineup of episodes this spring. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: We're planning that now and looking forward to it. Yeah, 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: being back on track. And you know, we recorded a 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: lot of episodes ahead of time to allow for the 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: fact that we didn't know and Henry would be arriving 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: and what the situation would be. And actually this is 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: airing right around his dutyue. Yeah, I know, I've been 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: pondering this many times over the past few weeks that 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I would most likely still be pregnant with 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: all my other children, I was still pregnant, like I 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: at this point, I'm not even I wouldn't even be 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: thirty nine weeks yet. So it's amazing. How pregnant is 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: this like binary thing? Right? You are? You are? There's 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: no little bit. It's amazing. Well, I'm slightly jealous. I 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: never got to experience, you know, having a baby a 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: little early. I know that in a way that sounds 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: very odd since you want to keep babies great campod 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, sometimes you get to that thirty 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: eight week mark and it's like, okay, I would go now, 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: I'd be happy. I never went less than forty weeks. Yeah, well, 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I thought about it that, Like, I mean, 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: with Sam and Jasper were both at forty one weeks, 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: and so thirty seven weeks is a full month earlier 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: than that. So yeah, there's a lot less time to 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: be pregnant, which was kind of nice, so that once 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: it turned out he was okay, you know, because there 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: was there's always a little concern when they're a couple 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: weeks early about whether that will be the case and 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: whether he'll eat okay and all that. But he seems 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: to be fine. So I think I think you should 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: just break into this story and tell us from the 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: beginning about, you know, the surprise and the recovery, because 54 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it, you said your recovery 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: was taking a little longer. But I'm almost surprised because 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: a baby that was earlier, it's like you were less pregnant. 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. So over the holidays, you know, 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: we celebrated Christmas, we had a lot of activities. My 59 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: mother in law was here, which turned out to be 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: quite fortunate. We you know, we're doing the various things 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: with the kids, and then my husband's brother and his 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: family came from North Carolina on the twenty seventh, and 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: so we had four other kids in the house too, 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: So we had a whole house full of relatives. It 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: was awesome. You know, we're doing lots of activities with them, 66 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and you know, on the twenty eighth, they had all 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: gone to see a movie and I went to get 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: went to Costco to like go get groceries for the evening. 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: Come back, I really needed a nap, took a twenty 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: minute nap, and then we all went to Disney on Ice. 71 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: So the thirteen of us at Disney on Ice, which 72 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: was it was a great experience. I totally said, yeah, 73 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: you seemed to. You said, all the kids liked it. 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: The older one liked it. So if anyone has that 75 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: coming to their location, you know, it might be worth 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: taking kids of different ages too. But you know, it's 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: just a chaos of that to drive home and cook 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: dinner and then you know, finally get into bed and 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: I wake up at like one forty five feeling this 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: like shot of adrenaline. But you know, I've been waking 81 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night a lot. Was 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: that true with all of your pregnancies or was that? 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really remember. I mean, it's it's 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: hard to say. I mean, I must have had some 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: element of you know, waking up, but I don't have 86 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the records of it. And this is the one that 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: I have the time log for us, so now I 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: can see like how frequent it was that that this 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: was happening. But you know, so I was like, okay, 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: I'll just lie try and go back to bed, see 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: if I can. And then like around two thirty, I 92 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: my my water broke. Like I'm just lying there in 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: bed and I'm just like, WHOA, did you feel a 94 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: little pop? Because I did. I had my water break 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: with care and I just felt like the little most 96 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: subtle little like like wow. So that that kind of 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: got my attention. So yeah, once I figured out that 98 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: that's what I mean, that was pretty clear that was 99 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: what it has had, what it happen, and I it 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: was like quick googling, like what what am I supposed 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: to do? Like how how long I should have texted me? 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I would have been like you go to the hospitalspital 103 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: and now, well, so I did. I mean, I did 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: call the the my Obi's Emergency Answering service that they 105 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: have going overnight and they had, you know whatever, the 106 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: doctor on call call me back, which hilariously, I mean, 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: because it was a holiday weekend, like three am Sunday, 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: they I mean, it was some guy from some other 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: practice that was like covering for them. So I was like, well, 110 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: this is I have no idea who this dude is. 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: But it turns out he's good friends with my kid's pediatrician, 112 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: so all good. But so they called me back and 113 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, just come in because I wasn't even 114 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't really having contractions at that point yet, but 115 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, you know clearly this is 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: what happened. So I wake Michael up. I'm starting to 117 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: have some contractions. At this point, we go wake his 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: mother in law, his mother up, tell her you know, 119 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: we're going drive to the hospital. But it was a 120 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: more calm drive than the one with Alex several years ago, 121 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: because you know, I was just starting the active labor 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: during the drive as opposed to having contractions every two 123 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: minutes the whole trip. So you know, I'm like, okay, 124 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: this is all good. Like walk in through the emergency room, 125 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: check in because they know we're coming. The lady you know, 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: pushes me upstairs in a wheelchair, and like I get 127 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: into the room, I'm like, oh, this is all calm, 128 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: this is gonna be great, you know, nice and nice 129 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: and relaxed, and they check. I'm like, only forced that. 130 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's dilated at that point. So I'm like, okay, well, 131 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: let me just you know, get the epidural, take a nap, 132 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: like we'll we'll deal with this in the morning. Of course, 133 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: then it takes some time to get that started, and 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: in the course of trying to get the epidural in, 135 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: of course, the contractions start going boom boom boom boom boom, 136 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: boom boom, and so finally they get the you know, 137 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: the epidural in, and the nurse's like, okay, kind I'm 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: going to give you that ballus of medicine, you know, 139 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: so you won't feel anything more. And then I'm like, 140 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I feel his head. So so you had another round 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: of like inadvertent natural childbirth. But it was just like, oh, 142 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: so did you push right after that? Yep? Oh that's 143 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, that's actually sort of similar to Genevieve 144 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: because I got to like nine centimeters waiting for my 145 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: girls as well. But I didn't. I didn't feel the head, 146 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: so you win, that's amazing. It's like, okay, here we go. 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: So that was it. He's out. Wow, oh my goodness. 148 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Probably one one nice push, yeah, pretty much because he 149 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: is only six and a half pounds. But you know, 150 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: it's funny having had three children now in this hospital, 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: some of the procedures like they evolve over time, like 152 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: they've now become what they call it baby friendly hospital, 153 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: which has some downsides like baby centered, yeah, be centered 154 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. They like, are less likely to you know, 155 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: quickly take your baby to the nursery overnights, you can say, 156 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: but like you have to like argue for that. But 157 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: on the other hand, they you know, put him immediately 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: on me, as opposed to you know, taking him off 159 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: to wash him up or whatever. And like so it's like, 160 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, I got to see him immediately and struggle 161 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: with him immediately, and you know, he's really cute. He's 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: just this like you know, peanut of a baby, little 163 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: little Henry. So he you know, he did really well, 164 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: he ate right then. But then you know, so I 165 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, this is like this is perfect. 166 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: But you know, then after they took him away, got him, 167 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, got him set whatever. I went into my 168 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: hotel room, not hotel room, hospital room came, yes, sort 169 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: of like a hotel room. When they brought him back, 170 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't able to eat very easily, and so we 171 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: really struggled with that the first day, like I keep trying, 172 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, but he's just so little. He couldn't latch 173 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: on very well and you know, suck his not his size, 174 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: but his gestational his digestational age seven weeks is like 175 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: right on that cutoff. So some kids are just not 176 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: going to feed quite as instinctively. Yeah, yeah, so it 177 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: was yeah, but we learned and he figured it out, 178 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: and of course now now he's a rock star. Now 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: he's a rockstar at it. He's eating well, and we 180 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: came home actually the next day, on the thirtieth. He 181 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: was born early in the morning on the twenty ninth, 182 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: So when we came home on the thirtieth, all the 183 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: kids came and visited me in the hospital. On the thirtieth, 184 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: I had been actually quite anxious about this. That had 185 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: been a source of some stress. I mean just you know, 186 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: there had been like I was, you know, I went 187 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: to write where the mark where they don't call it premature. 188 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: There had been some risk factors for premature birth for 189 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: before that, and I was like, well, this could be 190 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: a problem because in the hospital they're going to have 191 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: the flu restrictions in place, which means that young kids 192 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: can't come visit. And I was like, I was dreading 193 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: if I had, like going to be in the hospital 194 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: for a longer period of time and my kids wouldn't 195 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: be able to come see me. Because little alex Oh, 196 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I wish I'd had this conversation with him before. He 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: like two days before Henry was born, said well, who's 198 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: going to be our replacement mommy? And I said what 199 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: I said, I planned to continue in this role, and 200 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: we said no, when you're in the hospital. I had 201 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: to explain like I was only going to be gone 202 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: for like max like forty eight hours like at that point. 203 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: So poor little kid had thought I was gone for ages. 204 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: So it's really good. I wonder where he got that idea. 205 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: So were the kids allowed to come in then? They could? 206 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: They could, they had not because it was late December 207 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: and not like into January. They did not have the 208 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: flu restrictions in place yet, so they were able to 209 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: come and How did it go. It went pretty well. 210 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: It went pretty well. We had them all sit down 211 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: and hold the baby, and they were very excited about it. 212 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: And actually our cousins came to like we went through 213 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: two shifts of kids coming through. We did the old 214 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: the four older kids first, and then the four younger kids, 215 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, it was it was really cute and sweet 216 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: to see them. They've been very about about the baby 217 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: and mostly pretty good about it. I mean, the older 218 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: kids are big there, they know the whole thing. But 219 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: you've got to hold the head, got to be gentle. 220 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: Alex Is you know, a little bit more aggressive with 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: the baby. I mean he loves them, but you know, 222 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: you show your love in a sort of pawing manner 223 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: and has had a few little adjustment issues of being 224 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's tough, right, Like there's there's 225 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: been more bedtime battles and more kicking and screaming than 226 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I think we had had for a while, Like, you know, 227 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: regressed a couple months or years on that. But life's 228 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: challenging to get a new little sibling, especially if you've 229 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: been the baby for that long. One hundred percent, I 230 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: mean that sounds a lot like we had similar issues 231 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: with Cameron, and in fact, I still regret not doing 232 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: a better job kind of preparing him for what to 233 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: do and what was going to happen when he came 234 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: in that hospital room, because I think our nanny brought 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: him in and he just made a gras immediately without 236 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: washing his hands, without anything for Genevieve, and I remember 237 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: being like no. But then I felt like he was 238 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: wounded by my no because it was a very like 239 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Mama Bear protective No. Hopefully it hasn't scarred him for life, 240 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: but I felt like it didn't set us on a 241 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: great path starting because I think he then cried because 242 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: he felt but oh god, it was not perfect. But yeah, 243 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: there was definitely adjustment. Maybe there's still even adjustment. I 244 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: think it's hardest for the next youngest kid because I 245 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: don't feel like my I didn't feel like Annabelle really 246 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: had any real negative. In fact, it's been pretty easy 247 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: for her to take on that big sister role pretty 248 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: much from the beginning, which is similar to your number 249 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: three position. So yeah, no, it's it's there's a lot 250 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: of us. I mean, I guess that's what we What 251 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: I can say is that there are many many kids 252 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: and life doesn't stop. I mean, with this many kids, 253 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: I you know, I think about I had written on 254 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: my blog about the whole check Cheese birthday party that 255 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: that's amazing Henry was subjected to. I mean, we kept 256 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: him out in the van and we have a new 257 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: Saturday childcare thing going now, which is great, but she 258 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: was out in the car with him most of the time, 259 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: and I came out to feed him. But you know, 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: it's just like I had scheduled the birthday party to 261 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: be ideally before the baby came, and then the baby 262 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: was there, so we you know, we're not going to 263 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: cancel the party. You know, there's enough adults that can 264 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: handle it. So we just did it. And you know, 265 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: it was Chuck e Cheese or you know, Jasper had it. 266 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: It would have been so bad to cancel because it 267 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: would have been exactly the wrong message. The baby is here, 268 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: you can't and of course we wouldn't do that. So 269 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: I I had a choice. I mean, I could not go, 270 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: but I wanted to be part of it as well, 271 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: like and so I was. 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Well, I don't know, 331 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: do you feel normal? How we're now like what three 332 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: weeks out? Oh no, not yet. We we're like eleven 333 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: days out, but we're eleven days out. How close do 334 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: you feel to prebate, pre pregnancy. I'm getting there. I'm 335 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: getting there. It's it's been you know, I don't it's 336 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: hard to remember. I guess this is the problem. You 337 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: don't remember necessarily all the details of the recovery from 338 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: from previous times. In my mind, it feels like it 339 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: was a little slower, which could be. It's two things. 340 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, when I'm older, which you know, I can't 341 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: do anything about. But I also got this really nasty 342 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: cold right at the moment of birth or something, you know, 343 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: and I could maybe it was in the hospital, maybe 344 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: it was at Disney on ice, like, who knows, like 345 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: where I contracted this, But I was definitely feeling pretty 346 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: miserable from that, and so it's hard to know if, like, 347 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: you know, I would have been feeling kind of gross 348 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: with that anyway, and like tired and out of it. 349 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: And then you add that on top of the recovery 350 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: from childbirth, and it's not a good feeling. So you know, physically, 351 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't a very difficult birth. We were saying, the 352 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: baby's only six and a half pounds. It was a 353 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: short labor two and a half hours total start like 354 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: from water breaking to baby being out that is pretty fast. Yeah, 355 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: so I can't really blame it on that, but some 356 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: I think what had happened My stomach muscles were not 357 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: engaged or something for about a week after the birth 358 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: and or like very limited engaged, and so I was, 359 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, having to sort of move differently to get 360 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: myself up to walk around to you know, so you 361 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on your back then, and 362 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: so that was physically pretty painful and I but then 363 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: something happened overnight, like Sunday to Monday, basically from day 364 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: eight to nine of postpartum. It's that my the muscles, 365 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: thedominal muscles like completely came back together. And so overnight 366 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: it went from like I couldn't I didn't feel like 367 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: I could engage them, so I could and so then 368 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I could like move, which was like getting up easily 369 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: from lying down or sitting up position or walking around, 370 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: and you know, it had the sort of vanity element 371 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: of it went from looking like I was six months 372 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: pregnant to not looking pregnant in a span of hours 373 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: because it was suddenly holding everything in, you know, like 374 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: the breastfeeding is always painful at first as you try 375 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: to toughen up again just to if we have any 376 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: first time mothers listening to this. I mean they like 377 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: to tell you, like it doesn't hurt. It hurts. It 378 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: hurts for about the first week or two and then 379 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: it gets much better. Maybe there are some women for 380 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: which it never hurts. But I guess two for two 381 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: on this podcast. I will also about you say that 382 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: you know and it's it's just something you should be 383 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: aware of. It doesn't mean that you're doing it wrong 384 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: or that there's anything you know that's going to be 385 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: like and you know it won't be like that for 386 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: so if you're sitting there saying, how could I deal 387 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: with this for the next year, like, you won't like, 388 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: it won't feel like that for past about you know, 389 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: day what nine to ten or something. So do you 390 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: use those little gel things? Those are my favorite? No, No, 391 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: I just kind of stuck, just toughed it up this time. Yeah, 392 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: but we've been pumping a lot. Get that milk supply 393 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: established it at you know, X plus and if you'll 394 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: set at all, yeah X plus a bottle a day. 395 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: If you can pump an extra bottle a day, then 396 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: you can let it drift down over the course of 397 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: the next year or so your milk supply and it 398 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: will be okay. If you miss a feeding like that 399 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: won't be a problem. That's something I've learned because it 400 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: sets at the baseline of where you come in when 401 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: your milk comes in. If you start pumping immediately, then 402 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the baseline will get set more than you actually need. 403 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: And how is the night nurse situation going? Yeah, well 404 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: we had that. We've only had that two nights at 405 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: this point. We oh, because she wasn't booked to start, 406 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: Is that why? Oops? No? So I definitely So the 407 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: first few nights I was it was kind of rough. 408 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: And what I've gotten to the rhythm of doing is 409 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: I give the baby to Michael from about ten to 410 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: We've been able to get to like twelve thirty, twelve 411 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: forty five and there, so you know, he'd then give 412 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: the baby to me at twelve forty five so I 413 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: could get that first two and a half hour stretch 414 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the night. And then you know, 415 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: especially over Christmas that he was like driving us all around. 416 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of he needed to be 417 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: able to sleep from at least like one to seven 418 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: to be functional. So anyway, so I took up the 419 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: night and then I'd nap during the day. You know 420 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: that that worked, and so but then we were like, okay, well, 421 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: the night nurse service wasn't even planning to start until 422 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: late January because I sort of assumed the baby would 423 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: come around forty weeks and that would put us into 424 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: late January by the time we were kind of home 425 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: from the hospital and adjusted and so, I you know, 426 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: I called up and said, well, I recognize that this 427 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: is early, but it's it's a service, so there's more 428 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: than one person. And the owner is the one I 429 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: know and was here most of the time with Alex, 430 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: and she'll come late January. But I mean she's booked 431 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: with someone else, but she has her associates. So we've 432 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: been cycling through some of them and had two nights 433 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: we didn't have last night, but he was. He slept 434 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: pretty well last night. It was not actually not a 435 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: bad at all. But we'll have somebody tonight. So yeah, 436 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: it actually works somewhat similar to what I was having 437 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Michael do, Like I give the baby to this person 438 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: at ten, I go to sleep, they bring the baby 439 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: to me at you know, twelve thirty one for that 440 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: first feeding I feed, take the baby back, bring the 441 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: baby back at you know, four four thirty whenever the 442 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: second feeding is, and then you know, bring them up 443 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: and let the person out succesh in the morning, and 444 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: then you know, I might get a little extra time 445 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: to sleep, but like another half hours. But at that point, 446 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the kids up for school, so 447 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, there's only so much time overnight. But I mean, 448 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: people saying, well, what is the rationale for doing this? 449 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: You know, the baby sometimes they take a while to settle, 450 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Like I have the notes from Tuesday night, the night 451 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: nurse who was here. I mean, he took like an 452 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: hour to settle after his feeding, after the twelve thirty feeding, 453 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: and that's time I would have been up and I wasn't. 454 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: So that was a nice extra hour to get in 455 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. So yeah, valuable, valuable, valuable. 456 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: So then you're able to do this podcast, yes, and 457 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 1: you're able to take your kids to school and not 458 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: be yelling at them because you're absolutely exhausted. Well, there's 459 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: been some yelling, I will claim. There's that poor little 460 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Alex and I have been at it in terms of 461 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: because he's refusing to go to bed at night, which 462 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: has been very difficult as I want to go to 463 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: bed and mostly Michael's been dealing with that, but like 464 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: after about nine, you know, when the battle is still 465 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: going on. But you know, we talked about it this morning. 466 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: It we're like his kindle. You know, at the end 467 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: of the day, both of us are at one percent 468 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: and we have to recharge overnight so we can be 469 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: at one hundred percent in the morning. But when we're 470 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: both at one percent, it's it's bad. I wonder if 471 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: it's the post winter break too, because every nobody wants 472 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: to get up for school. No, nobody wants to get 473 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: up for several and it's dark. It's like, yes, yeah, 474 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: dark even here, even down in tropical Florida. It's not cold, 475 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: but it's it's dark, and it's kind of interesting. It 476 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: makes me want to buy blackout shades actually, because I 477 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: always get frustrated in the summer and like it's probably 478 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: just the light. That was just yeah, no, you could, 479 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: that's something you can do something about. So yeah, get 480 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: the way to try it this summer. As much as 481 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: I like the physiology of the sun, if it's waking 482 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: my children up at five, the news you don't want 483 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: the Oh my goodness, okay, let me see if there's 484 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: anything else on my list. Ooh, okay, even though you're 485 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: not having the traditional well, talk a little bit about 486 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: your maternity quote unquote leave or not and any fun 487 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: things that you're sort of allowing yourself to do during 488 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: this time while you're taking it a little bit easier. 489 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: Or is that not really a thing? I mean, you know, 490 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm lucky in that way when I get when I 491 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: did get maternity leaves, like I really wasn't doing my 492 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: main job. But I know you feel more pressure. Well 493 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: just that there's nobody. I mean, the problem of building 494 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: a brand, you sort of business is that there's only 495 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: me and and some of it doesn't really matter, but 496 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: some does. I mean, like I so, for Before Breakfast, 497 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: the every weekday morning podcast that I host, I taped 498 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 1: ahead of time in December. I did an extra like 499 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: six weeks of episodes, and so that involved working a 500 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: lot in December, which was challenging, but I'm really glad 501 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: I did because when the baby arrived late December, I 502 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 1: now have stuff is recorded through to early February, and 503 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: I may think like two weeks more of stuff that 504 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: I haven't recorded, but is written, so I can kind 505 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: of coast on that for a while, although the ads 506 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: keep coming in like that's I can't escape that problem. 507 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: But I love my advertisers, and it's usually fine. It's like, 508 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: just record this thirty seconds. I just have to sit 509 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: down and do it, and then I can go whatever. 510 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: I have had some assignments that landed. You know, you 511 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: can't control exactly when people run stuff, so then edits 512 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: come back, you know it. But what I've been trying 513 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: to do because I don't want to spend all my 514 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: time working. So in the morning, our nanny, our regular 515 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: full time nanny, is here after the kids, you know, 516 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: go to school, and Alex's in school, so she tends 517 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: to take Henry from nine to noon more or less 518 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: except for whatever I'm feeding him in there, and that's 519 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: the time I work. And then she goes and gets 520 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Alex at preschool at noon, and then I take the 521 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: baby for the afternoon until about three or so, and 522 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: so then we're getting our baby time, mommy baby time 523 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: in that and then you know, the stuff starts happening. 524 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: People are home three and the other kids home around four, 525 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and then we have all the activities. And one thing 526 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: I did in Deceummer is I hired this second person, 527 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: so she's working on Saturdays and then working three evenings 528 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: during the week, so we have an extra driver, which 529 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: has been good because then we just don't have to 530 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: bring the baby places, especially when we have two kids 531 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: at different places at the same time. And you know, 532 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: it's just I knew we needed it, and so we're 533 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, sort out all the logistics of 534 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: having multiple people, but it's you know, it's so necessary 535 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: just to and the baby needs to be held at 536 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: various points, like you know, he's not done well with 537 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: like putting him down, Like he can't hold his head 538 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: out up. So it's like all the seats are kind 539 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: of you know, this will all probably get better in 540 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: like three four years when Jasper can drive. Maybe hopefully 541 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: he'll be a good driver. He'd better be. You're better 542 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: buy him like a tank. Yeah, exactly, dear, But oh 543 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: my goodness, Wow, that's a lot of specific fun goals. 544 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: That's fair. Oh the running streak, everyone needs an update. Yeah, well, 545 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you, like if my abdominal muscles didn't 546 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: even work like such, that walking was challenging, like there 547 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: was no running, So how many What was the final 548 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: tally of the streak. Well, I ran on December twenty eighth, 549 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: and then I had the baby early in the morning 550 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: on December twenty nine. But I got to three years. 551 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: I got to three years. So I started out like 552 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: December twenty four, twenty sixteen, and so I went through 553 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: December twenty four to twenty nineteen, and then I was like, 554 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of feel like running on the 555 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: next few days. That's so I did very very slow, 556 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: like waddling around, you know, running laps basically like round 557 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: the backyard because I didn't want to leave. But then 558 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: the twenty eighth was actually a really warm, kind of 559 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: nice day, and so I went down the street like 560 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, six tenths of a mile and then turn 561 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: around and ran back and I was like, I managed 562 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: to do it. I was like, okay, that's great. You know, 563 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: this feels awesome. I'm okay, like I could do this. 564 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: And then you know, baby born overnight. So yeah, now 565 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: it's so I stopped. I stopped running and I have 566 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: not run since. And you didn't calculate the number of days. 567 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: It was one thousand, well whatever, three three, sixty five 568 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: plus four or five right, right, So yeah, that's what 569 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: it is. That's amazing. Are you going to start a 570 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: new streak or well? I think I have different running 571 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: goals for this year. I'm not opposed to a streak. 572 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't think the streak was a bad thing. 573 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm going to do like the 574 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: run at four am in a hotel room thing. I 575 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: think I will run most days. I don't think I'm 576 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: going to force it to keep the streak going. At 577 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: this point, I have registered for the Philadelphia Marathon in November. 578 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so I've got you know, I'm probably 579 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: going to do a half marathon in early fall. There's 580 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: one in Philly that would be a good timing for that. 581 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: There's a ten mile race in May that I'll do. 582 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to sign up for a five mile 583 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: er at the end of February because that's that's enough 584 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: outside of the window now that I feel like it 585 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: would be okay. Since he came late December, that'll be 586 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: two months out as opposed to being in the window 587 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: of like the first six weeks. Yeah, so I think 588 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to do more distance running. I 589 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: want to get back to that. I'm actually going to 590 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: do once I'm more recovered here, I'm going to start 591 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: lifting weights more seriously, and those are going to be 592 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: my my goals for the year. That's awesome. I'm debating 593 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: this marathon because I did quite enjoy the half. Yeah, 594 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: so you did, but well you wentn't really fast, So 595 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: clearly we're not gonna be able to run together. But 596 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: you don't know. Your build up could be amazing build up. 597 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't run well. No, I was 598 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: my my PR for a half marathon, and I'm not 599 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: saying I could probably do better than this if I 600 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: seriously trained. I just haven't trained a lot of speed work. 601 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: My PR is a two fifteen, and so if your 602 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: two oh three was your bad, like, that's quite a difference. 603 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: That's a minute mile difference of your feeling like you 604 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: went slow and me feeling like I went quick. Well, 605 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: it didn't feel that's the set. I mean, it was 606 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: sort of a personal worse for quite some time for me, 607 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: But I didn't it didn't feel slow. It felt it 608 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: felt at the end I thought I almost had a 609 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: cardiac event. So wow, Well, so it wasn't like that 610 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: was it wasn't like that was easy pace. Okay, but 611 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: even if we didn't run together together, we could train together. 612 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: That's fun. So I don't know, I'm we'll see. I'm 613 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: my next fitness goal is I just want to get 614 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: try to get a little bit faster trained for a 615 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: five k. Josh said, he's going to be my de 616 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: facto coach. Yeah, maybe you could slightly fast for a 617 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: five k then like you could right, like I've done 618 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: like in the twenty threes before, but not for a 619 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: long time, and it would be fun to try to 620 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: get that again. Yeah, yeah, no, that would be that 621 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: would be really cool. Yeah, but wow, you signed up. 622 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: That is commitment. I am impressed. Well, you know, I 623 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: need's something to motivate myself. And you know, now that 624 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: we have the Saturday childcare, I think it's going to 625 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: be more like I want to take advantage of the 626 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: fact that I'm doing this like that. I know it'll 627 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: be perfect declited to make that decision. So I'm gonna, 628 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, get the runs in be awesome. All right, Well, 629 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: let's do our brief Q and A here. Since it 630 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: is baby themed, this is I'm actually going to include 631 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: the other part of this, even though the other part 632 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: is like a comment not a question that I thought 633 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: it was interesting and maybe our listeners would be interested. 634 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: So this comes from a listener in Norway, and she says, 635 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: I love your show, find it refreshing and encouraging. She says, 636 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: I can report that no matter how short the work 637 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: week and how good the government support for working families, 638 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: there is a lot of ankst around working moms here 639 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: in Norway as well. Case in point, most parents and 640 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: my daughter's day drop off their kids around eight and 641 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: pick them up between three thirty and four. The parent 642 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: who does pick up usually works about seven thirty to three, 643 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: and the parent who does drop off drops off at 644 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: eight and works like nine to four thirty. So she says, 645 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 1: I guess even if this is considered a full day 646 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: in Norway, this might be part time schedules to you, 647 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, not part time, but a little shorter than 648 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: it's a little shorter, yeah, yeah, And she said this 649 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: is how most professionals work, but there's a lot of 650 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: discussion about the length of days and kids for daycare. 651 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: She says, all kids have a right to a place 652 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: in daycare from the month they turn one, and some 653 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: start a few months earlier. There's a lot of inks 654 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: built about how that they start a few months later though, right, 655 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: not earlier than one month? No, she wrote, no, no, no, 656 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: one year old? One year old? Okay. Yeah, and some 657 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: start a few months earlier, but people still kind of 658 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: talk about how this could be damaging to the bond 659 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: between parent and child, so many families delay the start. 660 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: She says she finds it interesting that in every culture 661 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: of the Western world this anxiety seems to be so pervasive. Ooh, 662 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: so that's a good point. I would love to know 663 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: if we have any listeners, like in Japan, or in 664 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: Asian countries or maybe the Middle East? What is it 665 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: like there? Okay? So her question is do you have 666 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: any tips on surviving the first trimester? I am so 667 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: happy and grateful to be pregnant with my second child. Congratulations, 668 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: but I do not see how I will keep going 669 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: with a full workload until the second try. Any tips 670 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: and tricks will be greatly appreciated. Yeah. No, that's it's 671 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: a tough if, especially if you're really sick and tired. 672 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: It can be very difficult to manage a full workload. 673 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: I mean, particularly if you're actually like vomiting at work 674 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: or something like that, that can be really hard, which 675 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: maybe you recognize that it will get better in a 676 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and you think about, well, what do 677 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: I absolutely have to get done during this time, because 678 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: there's always stuff that could happen but could not happen. 679 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: You know, if you have sort of any ability to 680 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: do some work not at your workplace, I mean sometimes 681 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: being able to work from home can make it more doable. 682 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: Like if you didn't have to spend the energy to 683 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: bring yourself into your workplace, like that's a little bit 684 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: extra work, you know, energy you have to then do 685 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: the stuff of your work, you might see if you 686 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: could spread it out over more days. I know that 687 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: if I sort of fell apart by mid afternoon, like 688 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: I could maybe do Saturday morning again. If you have flexibility, 689 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: if you're you know, seeing patients, you can't do that 690 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: on a time when they're not scheduled or something. But 691 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: if you know you're sending emails or you're writing to documents, 692 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: that maybe you could take the work you would have 693 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: done from like two to three in the afternoon when 694 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: suddenly you're too sick and tired to do anything and 695 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: do that on Saturday morning and Sunday morning, for instance. Yeah, 696 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: what do you think, Sarah? Yeah, I think we just 697 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: remember that it really is very temporary for most people. 698 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean, some people don't feel any better and second try, 699 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: but hopefully if you do the first time, you will 700 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: the second time. I mean, I'll give you some commiseration. 701 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: I hate the first draw. I'd rather read thirty nine 702 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: weeks pregnant than nine weeks pregnant. That's what I always say, 703 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: because I am almost nonfunctional. I just basically am so nauseated. 704 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: All I can think about is like, so nauseated. I 705 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: just want this feeling to stop. So I get it. 706 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: I certainly don't feel like I was working, you know, 707 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: it was that it was survival mode. It was like, 708 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: do what absolutely has to be done. Everything beyond that 709 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: is probably not going to happen. And even if you're 710 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: pregnant three times or even five times, you know, that's 711 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: only like ten weeks or so times three, which is 712 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: not really in the grand scheme of things, a huge 713 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: chunk of your career time. So my biggest thought is, 714 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: try to give yourself a break, do what feels good, 715 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: eat plenty, of carbs. If that helps. Exercise did often 716 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: help me feel a little bit better. So if you 717 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: can work that into your day, great, But I also 718 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: just think this is one where it's like take out 719 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: the zoom lens, zoom out and realize that you will 720 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: probably be feeling better soon and can ramp it up. 721 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: And in fact, many people feel kind of like superpowers 722 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: in their second try so you may feel like you 723 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: can make up for lost time. Yeah no, And at 724 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: that point you can sort of get through the stuff 725 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: that like make a list like if if it's you're 726 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: having the sort of psychological like worries about it, the anxiety, 727 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: just make a list of the things that you are 728 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: going to do as soon as you start feeling better. 729 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: I love that second try list, the second try list. 730 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: And you then have your first try list of the 731 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: things that absolutely have to happen, and monitor your energy 732 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: through the day and if you are feeling good, tackle 733 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: something and then give yourself a break when you when 734 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: you can't. All right, well this has been Oh we 735 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: have our love of the week, Yes, forget our love 736 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: the week, Okay, you do yours first. It's a baby, 737 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: a baby related thing. So yeah, I've been have it 738 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: on my desk All show Sarah my hot So. One 739 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: of the nurses in the hospital told me about this product. 740 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: It's h A k A A I think is how 741 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: you're or h A k A A. Yes, as two 742 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: as there. It's this silicone cop that people who have 743 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: nursed babies may be aware of this phenomenon that when 744 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: you're nursing on one side with one baby. If you 745 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: have twins, it's a different matter, but one baby on 746 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: one side, the other side, the letdown reflex is not 747 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: side specific, so you wind up leaking on the other side, 748 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: and so this little cup, the silicon cup, collects the 749 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: other side, and if you are very leaky, you can 750 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: collect quite a bit. Instead of just having it run 751 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: all over your shirt, you just put it in the 752 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: freezer and like you build up your freezer stash that way. 753 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: And the upside of that is again it just would 754 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 1: have been running all over your shirt. And second, it's 755 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: not extra time. You don't have to sit by the pump, 756 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: which is time that you could have been sleeping or whatever, 757 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: hanging out with your baby, playing with your other children, reading. 758 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: You are just you would have been nursing anyway, So 759 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: you just put the cup on and nurse and you 760 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: get extra milk for the freezer stash. So that has 761 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: been a new discovery. I didn't know about these in 762 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: pregnancies one through four, so now I do for number five. 763 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 1: So I'm sharing it hoping that it helps other people, 764 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: since definitely not planning on pregnancy number six as of now. 765 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: If anyone's listening to this and it is like, like 766 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't leak, something's wrong with me. I never leaked 767 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: any drops during my like combined thirty whatever months of 768 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: breastfeeding that I did, so I don't think this thing 769 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: would have worked on me. I mean, I guess I'll 770 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: never know, but I do think it probably depends on, Yeah, 771 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: how how willing your boobs are to give up this book, 772 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: how laky they are? Yeah, how I have a feeling 773 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: it probably correlates to, like people who have to do 774 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot of massage and pump for a full thirty minutes. 775 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: This probably won't be the holy Grail, but people who 776 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: can like get it out real quick and who's you know, 777 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: it'll probably work great. So nice to have another tool exactly, 778 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: all right. My love of the week is I discovered 779 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: a new podcast called Well Actually it's a brand new podcast. 780 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: I think they've only aired one episode, and it's called 781 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: Money Meets Medicine. That's perfect. And it's written by this 782 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: anesthesiology or spoken by this nispe caesiologist who wrote a 783 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: book called it. He goes by like the physician philosopher, 784 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: and he's big into like financial independence and all that stuff. 785 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: And he does it with a financial advisor. And I've 786 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: already pitched myself as a guest. I think I'd be awesome. 787 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: I was saying, why don't we, Hey, we think of 788 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: what would be the perfect podcast for sarahould be like 789 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: money meets Medicine meets planning meets running. Yeah, maybe no, 790 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't need another podcast. I'm good. I am good. Actually, 791 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: that's funny that you mentioned this, because I recording the 792 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: intro to the next episode on my own to give 793 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: you a little bit of a much deserved break, and 794 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: I would be well, I'll let the listeners listen for themselves. Excellent. Cool, 795 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: All right, Well this has been best of both worlds. 796 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: We've been talking about the birth of baby Henry, among 797 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: other things, and we will be back next week with 798 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: more on making work in life together. Thanks for listening. 799 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com 800 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can 801 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has 802 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: been the best of Both Worlds podcast. Please join us 803 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: next time for more on making work and life work 804 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 1: together