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Speaker 1: Expected to include investigations into tax exempt status of certain

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Speaker 3: Federal law, however, prohibits.

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Speaker 1: deportation campaign. Meanwhile, the President announced last night that he

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Speaker 1: will label Antifa as a major terrorist organization, although current

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Speaker 2: We begin well.

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Speaker 4: One of the specific problems here is that Antifa.

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Speaker 2: Isn't really a group.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's the nature of anarchic or a foreign group.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you don't need an organizational structure to do anything.

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Speaker 4: We've seen that for years on the Islamis front.

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Speaker 4: It's absurd and it's dangerous. And you know, the issue

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Speaker 5: This was being treated as a single murder. It's not

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Speaker 5: and TIFAT needs to be designated as a domestic terrorist organization. Hey,

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Speaker 5: if you want to make an international terrorist, there's plenty

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Speaker 6: What do you think about this reporting that the president

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Speaker 7: It's more authoritarian nonsense from this administration which we've seen.

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Speaker 7: And one thing in particular that bothers me about it

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Speaker 6: That comment immediately drew the attention of FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr,

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Speaker 8: Becoming increasingly clear. Isn't it, Mike that people around President

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Speaker 2: Let's look for more targets.

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Speaker 5: You designate them a terrorist organization, then all kind of

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Speaker 5: What's good for the goose is good for the game.

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Speaker 5: Primal screen of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies

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Speaker 5: because we're going to medieval on these people. You're not

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Speaker 5: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. We are momentarily going to go to Checkers,

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Speaker 5: Minister Starmer and President Trump. They announced earlier today you

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Speaker 5: saw Real America's Voice live. I don't know. I think

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Speaker 5: it's a four hundred million dollars deal on nuclear power,

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Speaker 5: our plants that the England's going to You know, they

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Speaker 5: Since the tech bros knee power power you shall have.

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Speaker 5: how that was verboten after what the China syndrome, the

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Speaker 5: Huge news. Jimmy Kimmel the affiliates Sinclair Broadcasting a conservative news,

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Speaker 5: Press conference, President, United States, Prime Minister of England will

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Speaker 3: Welcome you to Checkers.

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Speaker 12: This historic second State visit is a moment to celebrate

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Speaker 3: Thank you well, simply I want the hostages released now,

438
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Speaker 3: right now. Not one tool will give you three more tomorrow,

439
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: and you know like it's been But with that, got

440
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: all the hostage is released. We got many many, they came,

441
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: many came to the Oval office, and I've heard stories

442
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Speaker 3: like I've never thought even possible, there was no humanity

443
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 3: know anything. I said to them, I said, was there

444
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: any warmth shown during this stay? Like they offered you

445
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: a little extra meal, they gave you a little smile,

446
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: and they said, don't worry, You'll be okay. And every

447
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: one of them said not even a little bit. Amazing

448
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: to think that during this stay, long stay. In some cases,

449
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Speaker 3: we had a man the other day, four hundred and

450
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Speaker 3: fifty one days he was there. I always asked that question,

451
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Speaker 3: and was there any warmth, just a little word of

452
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: you know, encouragement, And the answers every time absolutely not.

453
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: I'm shocked to hear it, because in the worst cases,

454
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: there's always somebody that comes through. We have to remember

455
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: October seventh, one of the worst most violent days in

456
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Speaker 3: the history of the world, not just there, the history

457
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Speaker 3: of the world. And I got to see the and

458
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Speaker 3: I wish I didn't see them, actually, but I got

459
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Speaker 3: to see them. And I want an end. I want

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Speaker 3: the hostages released, and I think it's going to be okay.

461
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: But it has been a brutal period of time. But

462
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 3: this has been going on for a long time. This

463
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Speaker 3: is not something that's over the last year, two years,

464
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Speaker 3: but this has been for decades and decades, but we

465
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Speaker 3: wanted to end. We have to have the hostages back immediately.

466
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Speaker 3: That's what the people of Israel want. They want them back,

467
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Speaker 3: and we want the fighting to stop, and it's going

468
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Speaker 3: to stop. But a lot of bad things. You know.

469
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Speaker 3: Hamas said that they're going to put the hostages up

470
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Speaker 3: as bait. They're going to put the hostages in front

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Speaker 3: of any attack, and that's pretty brutal. We haven't heard

472
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Speaker 3: that one in a long time, so we have to

473
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Speaker 3: remember that. So I have a disagreement with the Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister on that score. Okay, one of our few disagreements. Actually,

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Speaker 3: can I take Jack from the Sun?

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Speaker 10: Jack, thank you both, Jack from the Sun.

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Speaker 14: Mister President, in the nine months you've been in office,

478
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Speaker 14: you've been incredibly successful in all but eliminating crossings and

479
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Speaker 14: your southern border.

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Speaker 10: Meanwhile, a legal migration is at record levels in Britain.

481
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Speaker 10: The Prime Minister is trying to tackle that.

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Speaker 14: What advice would you give to the man standing next

483
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Speaker 14: to you on trying to stop illegal migration in Britain?

484
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 14: And Prime Minister, if I can just ask the President

485
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 14: is all about drill, baby drill in terms of trying

486
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Speaker 14: to secure American energy and cut bills for Americans.

487
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Speaker 10: Meanwhile, you are turning.

488
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Speaker 14: Britain's back by the oil and gas in favor of

489
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Speaker 14: renewable energies such as wind turbines.

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Speaker 10: Why do you think that you are right and he

491
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Speaker 10: is wrong.

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Speaker 3: So we had millions of people flowing in totally unchecked,

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Speaker 3: totally unvetted from the Magnan administration. Twenty five million. In

494
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: my opinion, that would be about twenty five million. They

495
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: came from prisons, they came from mental institutions. They were

496
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Speaker 3: gang members, they were drug dealers. They came from the Congo,

497
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Speaker 3: They came from all parts of South America. They came

498
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Speaker 3: from everywhere. Think of it. Prisons from the Congo being

499
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Speaker 3: released into the United States. Prisons opened up in Venezuela

500
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Speaker 3: and many other countries pouring into the United States. And

501
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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. One of the reasons I decided

502
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Speaker 3: to run. I decided to run because I don't want

503
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Speaker 3: to be controversial. But you see what's happened, and you

504
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: see all the information that's come out. We won in

505
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty big, and I said, let's run. We got

506
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Speaker 3: to run because I saw what was happening, and the

507
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Speaker 3: worst thing that I saw was all of these people.

508
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Speaker 3: You know, we've already solved inflation, we solved prices. Oil

509
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Speaker 3: is way down, energy is way down in the United States.

510
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Speaker 3: But what I saw happening, with millions of people pouring

511
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Speaker 3: into our country, I couldn't. I couldn't stand to watch it.

512
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Speaker 3: And we've done a great job. Nobody, if you've seen

513
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Speaker 3: the list, I appreciate your question. By the way, nobody.

514
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Speaker 3: Absolutely zero, and I'm not even sure that's possible. But

515
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Speaker 3: it's a very liberal group to come out with those status.

516
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Speaker 3: The last three months, we had zero from millions of people.

517
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Speaker 3: A year ago, we had zero people enter our country illegally,

518
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: and we do have people coming in legally through a

519
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Speaker 3: legal process and testing and lots of other things. I

520
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: think it's very important and we speak about it, and

521
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: I think your situation is very similar. You know, you

522
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: have people coming in and I told the Prime Minister

523
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Speaker 3: I would stop it. And it doesn't matter if you

524
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Speaker 3: call out the military, it doesn't matter what means you use.

525
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: But it's going to destroy. It destroys countries from within,

526
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Speaker 3: and we're actually now removing a lot of the people

527
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Speaker 3: that came into our country. It's a very hard chore.

528
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Speaker 3: It's very we were given a very very bad hand.

529
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Speaker 3: Millions of people came in from prisons and mental institutions.

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Speaker 3: We have to remove them, and we are removing them.

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Speaker 3: We have no choice and I feel very strongly about it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Jack.

533
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Speaker 12: Let me just deal with the question of returns, because

534
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 12: this is obviously an issue we're taking incredibly seriously. We've

535
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Speaker 12: struck a number of deals, both on cooperation with other

536
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Speaker 12: countries because this is a problem right across Europe, to

537
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Speaker 12: tackle the problem of actually breaking up the gangs that

538
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Speaker 12: are running this trade. We have had a record number

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Speaker 12: of returns over thirty five thousand now since we came

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Speaker 12: into office. That's the highest number for the best part

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Speaker 12: of ten years. We struck the returns arrangement with France,

542
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Speaker 12: and notwithstanding the challenges to that scheme which you've seen

543
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Speaker 12: in the last few days, a flight went off at

544
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Speaker 12: six point fifteen this morning successfully returning someone under that scheme.

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Speaker 12: So that is an important step forward. Obviously, there's no

546
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Speaker 12: silver bullet here. There's a range of things that need

547
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Speaker 12: to be done, but given the challenges of returning people.

548
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Speaker 12: It is important that we're able to prove it can

549
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Speaker 12: be done.

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Speaker 3: It was done.

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Speaker 12: It was done early this morning, so I can confirm

552
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Speaker 12: that that flight went. It went successfully, and I'm pleased

553
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Speaker 12: about that. Now we need to run that up at scale,

554
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 12: which was always ski scheme, but it's very important that

555
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Speaker 12: we have been able to prove that the proof of concept.

556
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Speaker 12: If you write, if you like, that this can be

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Speaker 12: done and will continue in that way. On the question

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Speaker 12: of energy, firstly, let me be really clear that I

559
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Speaker 12: am absolutely determined to ensure that the price and cost

560
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Speaker 12: of energy comes down so that bills come down, both

561
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Speaker 12: for individuals, for families with their household bills, but also

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Speaker 12: for business because this is so important. The mix will

563
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Speaker 12: include all a gas for many years to come from

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Speaker 12: the North Sea. We've been clear about that for some time,

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Speaker 12: but we also need to mix that with renewables, and

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Speaker 12: it's the mix that's really important. And the approach I've

567
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Speaker 12: taken on this is the same approach that I take

568
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Speaker 12: so many other things, a pragmatic approach.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jack. I would like to say that we

570
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Speaker 3: inherited the worst inflation in the history of our country.

571
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Speaker 3: We had inflation the likes of which we've really never seen.

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Speaker 3: They say forty eight years and I'll accept that, but

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Speaker 3: I really don't. We had the worst inflation in the

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Speaker 3: history of our country. And we had a expression that

575
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Speaker 3: I used a lot. Drill, baby drill, And as you know,

576
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Speaker 3: we brought fuel way down. The price is way down,

577
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: and we don't do wind because wind is a disaster.

578
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: It's a very expensive joke, frankly. And we got our

579
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Speaker 3: energy prices way down. That brought the inflation way down,

580
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Speaker 3: and now we have very little inflation and we have

581
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: a very very strong economy, so that was very important. Drill,

582
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Speaker 3: baby drill. And you have a great asset here, and

583
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: we spoke about it's called the North Sea. The north

584
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Speaker 3: Sea oil is phenomenal. And I hope because I love

585
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Speaker 3: this country. You know, my mother was born in Scotland

586
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: and the hebrides storing away, that's serious Scotland. We were

587
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: talking about it and I want this country to do well.

588
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: And you have great assets that you're going to start using,

589
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Speaker 3: I believe under this Prime Minister.

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Speaker 12: Fine, thank you, and I've got matthly from the economist Matthew.

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Speaker 15: Thank you promised that mister President, you say that President

592
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Speaker 15: Putin has let you down, Have nego stations run out

593
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Speaker 15: of road, and what are your next steps to compel

594
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Speaker 15: an end to this war?

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Speaker 3: He has led me down. I mean, he's killing many people,

596
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Speaker 3: and he's losing more people than he's you know, than

597
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: he's killing him. I mean, frankly, the Russian soldiers are

598
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: being killed at a higher rate than the Ukrainian soldiers.

599
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, he said, let me down. I don't like

600
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: to see it's death. You know, it doesn't affect the

601
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Speaker 3: United States. We have other than unless you end up

602
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: in a world war over this thing. You could This

603
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: was a thing that would have never happened had I

604
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Speaker 3: been president. If I were president, would have never happened.

605
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Speaker 3: And it didn't happen for four years. People most people

606
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: agree it didn't happen, nor was it close to happen.

607
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: And I spoke to President Putin about Ukraine. It was

608
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Speaker 3: the apple of his eye. I've said that many times.

609
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: It was. But he would have never done what he did,

610
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Speaker 3: except that he didn't respect the leadership of the United States.

611
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: They just went through the Afghanistan total disaster for no

612
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Speaker 3: reason whatsoever. We're going to leave Afghanistan, but we're going

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Speaker 3: to leave it with strength and dignity, and we're going

614
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: to keep Bagram, the big air base, that one of

615
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: the biggest airbases in the world. We gave it to

616
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Speaker 3: them for nothing. We're trying to get it back. By

617
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: the way, okay, that could be a little breaking news.

618
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: We're trying to get it back because they need things

619
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: from us. We want that base back. But one of

620
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Speaker 3: the reasons we want the base is, as you know,

621
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Speaker 3: it's an hour away from where China makes its nuclear weapons.

622
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: So a lot of things are happening. But I am

623
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Speaker 3: very disappointed in the fact that that one's not settled

624
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: to think that we settled aber Baijan and Albania as

625
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: an example, it was going on for years, was never

626
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Speaker 3: going to be settled. If you remember the Prime Minister

627
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: and the presidents, and they were there for many years.

628
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: They said, when they were in my office, we settled,

629
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Speaker 3: and they started off at both side of the oval

630
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: office so far away. I didn't know you could be

631
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: so far away. And as we were together for an hour,

632
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: they kept getting closer closer. By the time we finished,

633
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: we all hugged each other and one said, I've been

634
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: in this position for twenty two years, and all I've

635
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: done is kill their people. The other was there for

636
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: seven years and all he did was kill their people.

637
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: And we got us settled. And we did others as

638
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 3: you know, Congo, the Congo we did. We settled the

639
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: Congo with Rwanda that was going on, and that was

640
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 3: a machete war that grew some more many people, close

641
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: to ten million people killed. We got that. So my

642
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: biggest disappointment, but it's you know, look, we did seven

643
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: and most of them were not thought to be settleable.

644
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: We did India, and we did Pakistan that's too nuclear.

645
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: That was purely for trade. You want to trade with us,

646
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 3: you're going to have to get along. And they were

647
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: going at it hot and heavy. But the Russia situation,

648
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Speaker 3: I hope we're going to have some good news for

649
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: you coming up. But again, it doesn't affect the United

650
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: States and he look, it doesn't so much affect you.

651
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: Of course, you are a lot closer to the scene

652
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Speaker 3: than we are. We have a whole ocean separating us.

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, it's millions of people have

654
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Speaker 3: died in that war, millions of souls, and they're not

655
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Speaker 3: American the soldiers mostly soldiers. As you know, the soldiers

656
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Speaker 3: are being killed at levels nobody's seen since the Second

657
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Speaker 3: World War. But they're being killed, and I feel I

658
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Speaker 3: have an obligation to get it settled for their reason.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 12: I just add on that question because we have to

661
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Speaker 12: put extra pressure on Poutin, and it's only when the

662
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Speaker 12: President has put pressure on Pootin that he's actually shown

663
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Speaker 12: any inclination to move, So we have to rump that

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Speaker 12: pressure up. I think it's important to have this conversation

665
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Speaker 12: in the context of what's happened in recent weeks. We

666
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Speaker 12: saw damage and bombing to British Council in Key. These

667
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Speaker 12: are targets that it was thought until recently were not

668
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Speaker 12: targets would be hit. The British Council, the European Union Embassy,

669
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Speaker 12: the accounts of ministers where Presidence Lensky's minister's work was hit. Again,

670
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Speaker 12: these were thought to be places that wouldn't be hit.

671
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Speaker 12: And then the incursion into Poland last week, and if

672
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Speaker 12: you put that together, what you can see is either

673
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Speaker 12: an emboldenment or at least an increased recklessness on Putin's part.

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Speaker 12: And that's why I said earlier that they're not the

675
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Speaker 12: actions of someone who wants peace. So we have to

676
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Speaker 12: ramp up, and we discussed earlier today we have built

677
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Speaker 12: the coalition of the willing, with British leadership and French leadership,

678
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Speaker 12: stepping up with military planning in the seas, in the sky,

679
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Speaker 12: on the ground, and ramping up what we do with

680
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Speaker 12: the Ukrainians themselves. And of course that taken with an

681
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Speaker 12: American guarantee, is now an example. I think of the

682
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Speaker 12: challenge of Europe stepping up to the plate, which he

683
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Speaker 12: has done in the last few months to show through

684
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Speaker 12: what we're in. The French have done that we're prepared

685
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Speaker 12: to take the lead in this and take the necessary.

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Speaker 3: Motion if there's a war. There could have been a

687
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Speaker 3: Third World War and I don't think we're going to

688
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Speaker 3: be there now, but that was heading to a Third

689
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Speaker 3: World war, and what a shame it is, What a

690
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Speaker 3: shame it is. Did you want to call some of

691
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Speaker 3: the I would love to call a few of them above.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to have a question news?

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 16: Having been in DC for a few weeks, it's really

695
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Speaker 16: interesting to see how you run the country as a

696
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Speaker 16: proud Christian leader, and he really begs the question to

697
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Speaker 16: the Prime Minister if you don't mind, are we still

698
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Speaker 16: a Christian country?

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Speaker 3: But also when you say we, are you joking here

700
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Speaker 3: or kia the UK?

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Speaker 16: I'm still British America.

702
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Speaker 3: But also do you give you that or.

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Speaker 16: That's for the Prime Minister. But also despite what we

704
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Speaker 16: talked about in Scotland a few weeks ago, we still

705
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Speaker 16: have twelve thousand people a year here being arrested for

706
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Speaker 16: social media posts, for free speech violations. Does that not

707
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Speaker 16: remain an important area that there is still a lot

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Speaker 16: of disagreement on.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to have you. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Look, I mean in terms of a Christian country. I

711
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Speaker 12: was Christians, so that is my church has been all

712
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Speaker 12: my life, and we are you know, that is wired

713
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Speaker 12: into our informal constitution. Of course, we celebrate many other

714
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Speaker 12: faiths as well, and I'm really proud that we're able

715
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Speaker 12: to do so as a country. And on free speech,

716
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Speaker 12: that has long lived in this country. Free speech, it's

717
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Speaker 12: one of the founding values of the United Kingdom, and

718
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Speaker 12: we protect it jealously and fiercely and always will and

719
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Speaker 12: we will bear down on any limits on free speech.

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Speaker 12: I draw a limit between free speech and the speech

721
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Speaker 12: of those that want to pedal pedophilia and suicide social

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Speaker 12: media to children, and therefore I'm all for free speech.

723
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Speaker 12: I'm also for protecting children from things that will harm them, pedophiles,

724
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Speaker 12: those that pedal suicide, which had a terrible consequence for

725
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Speaker 12: individual particularly teenagers. And so that's the balance we strike.

726
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Speaker 12: But we have had freedom of speech in this country

727
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Speaker 12: for a very long time and we will always protect it.

728
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Speaker 17: Thank you, Thank you very much. Brand Please, thank you

729
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Speaker 17: Prime Minister. Is good to see you again. Yeah, be

730
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Speaker 17: beautiful country, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank Two questions.

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Speaker 17: One, just recently President Trump labeled in TIFA domestic terrorists.

734
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Speaker 17: Would you consider doing something like that in your country?

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Speaker 12: Well, we obviously will take decisions for ourselves. I don't

736
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 12: want to come in the decisions of the president, but

737
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Speaker 12: we take out decisions ourselves.

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Speaker 17: And my question to you, President Trump, is there any

739
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Speaker 17: update on the auto pen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's gotten worse from their standpoint, the people that

741
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Speaker 3: used it, and one in particular, one person was never

742
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 3: told by Biden to do it, only spoke to Biden twice,

743
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Speaker 3: and that was just talking about the weather, not talking

744
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Speaker 3: about any order. And he was taking orders from people

745
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: other than Joe Biden. Joe Biden wasn't giving those orders.

746
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Speaker 3: You know, Joe Biden didn't believe in open borders. He didn't.

747
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Speaker 3: I've known him for a long time. He was never

748
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Speaker 3: the brightest bulb in the ceiling, as we know. You

749
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: can go back forty years ago and you'll see that.

750
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Speaker 3: Go back and take a look at the hearings and

751
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: Justice Thomas and you'll see that very much. But he

752
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: didn't believe in open borders and all of this nonsense

753
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: that they're peddling now, which is why they're not in

754
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Speaker 3: office any longer. It's a shame. The autopen was illegal,

755
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: it was illegally used. He never gave the orders, he

756
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: never told them what to do. And I guess the

757
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: only one he signed, or one of the few he signed,

758
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: was the pardon for his son. But you had the

759
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Speaker 3: Congressman who when they got the information, they found out

760
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: they were guilty, and they deleted and destroyed all information everything.

761
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Speaker 3: You couldn't get any of it. They found out that

762
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi actually was offered the ten thousand soldiers and

763
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Speaker 3: she turned them down. They found out many things that

764
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Speaker 3: were very bad, so they deleted and destroyed all information.

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Speaker 3: You talk about freedom of the press and freedom of speech,

766
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: how about that one? And there's not a thing. This

767
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 3: is after a year and a half of hearings. They

768
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: destroyed everything, and somebody's got to be held responsible. So

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Speaker 3: Biden what he did is they do. I don't think

770
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: he knew, but somebody knew. I don't think Biden had

771
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Speaker 3: a clou about anything, if you want to know the truth.

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Speaker 3: But they gave a pardon to those Congress people. They

773
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: gave a pardon. Those people are so guilty. They gave

774
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Speaker 3: a pardon. But Biden didn't know about it. The people,

775
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: whether it's Lisa or any of those people in there

776
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: that really ran it, I know them all, and they're

777
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: sick people. They're smart people, they're very smart. They're probably brilliant,

778
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: but they're sick in ideology. And they were running the

779
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: auto pen and it was totally illegal what he did.

780
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Speaker 3: And I hope it's going to be so adjudged. You

781
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Speaker 3: want to take one more than an Okay, let's see

782
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Speaker 3: Peter Gun.

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Speaker 18: Take President Trump, and it's the only you're working on

784
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 18: from the Chinese to sell TikTok to an American buyer.

785
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 18: Are the Americans going to have to come up with

786
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Speaker 18: their own algorithm or are they going to continue to

787
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Speaker 18: use the successful but addictive Chinese algorithm.

788
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Speaker 3: So what we're doing, and we're speaking to Presidency on

789
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Speaker 3: Friday to see if we can finalize something on TikTok

790
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: because there is tremendous value. And I hate to give

791
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: away value, but I like TikTok. It helped get me elected.

792
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: In fact, Charlie said, sir, you ought to get on TikTok,

793
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Speaker 3: he'd be great. I said, really, tell me about TikTok.

794
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 3: And we, as you know, we did unbelievably well with youth,

795
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Speaker 3: like at a level that no Republican has ever even

796
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Speaker 3: dreamt of. And then what you know, Look, I think

797
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: we wanted for a lot of reasons, but that was

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Speaker 3: a reason we won the election by such a big number.

799
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Speaker 3: TikTok has tremendous value. The United States has that value

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Speaker 3: in its hand because we're the ones that have to

801
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Speaker 3: approve it. I specifically get the right to approve it.

802
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Speaker 3: The people that are investing in it are among the

803
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Speaker 3: greatest investors in the world, the biggest, the richest, and

804
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: they'll do a great job. And we're doing it in

805
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 3: conjunction with China, but we are getting the United States

806
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: is getting a tremendous fee plus. I call it a

807
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: fee plus for just making the deal, and I don't

808
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: want to throw that out the window. I can say

809
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: this that you'll have a lot of very unhappy youth.

810
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 3: And I use TikTok very legitimately, very straight, just statements.

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Speaker 3: Every day. I had little statement, short statements, sir, make

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Speaker 3: it short, please, and TikTok jack weick all them. It

813
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Speaker 3: was pretty good. Did a good job for me, I guess.

814
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Speaker 3: But now I'd rather reap the benefits. I mean, the

815
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Speaker 3: kind of money we're talking about is very substantial, and

816
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 3: it'll be owned by all American investors, and you know,

817
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: the best investors and the you know, very rich people

818
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 3: and companies that are going to be owning it, very

819
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: very straight, very legitimate countries companies and really companies that

820
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: love America. So they're going to be owning it. It's

821
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Speaker 3: a big thing, and on a much bigger scale, and

822
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: probably that's why we were able to get that. But

823
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Speaker 3: on a much bigger scale. We're pretty close to a deal.

824
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Speaker 3: We may do an extension with China, but it's an

825
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Speaker 3: extension based on the same terms that we have right now.

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Speaker 3: You're pretty good terms, and thank you.

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Speaker 10: For Prime Minister Starmar.

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Speaker 18: If you feel so strongly about officially recognizing Palestine for statehood,

829
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Speaker 18: why are you waiting for President Trump to leave the country.

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Speaker 18: Why can't you just do it right now? And isn't

831
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Speaker 18: there a risk in rewarding Hamas with that?

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Speaker 12: Well, let me be really clear about Hamas. They are

833
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Speaker 12: a terrorist organization who can have no part in any

834
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Speaker 12: future governance in Palestine. And what happened on October the

835
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Speaker 12: seventh was the worst attack since the Holocaust. We have

836
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Speaker 12: extended family in Israel. I understand firsthand the psychological impact

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Speaker 12: that that had across Israel. So I know exactly where

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Speaker 12: I stand in relation to Hamas. Hamas, of course don't

839
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Speaker 12: want two state solution, they don't want peace, they don't

840
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Speaker 12: want to cease far. I'm very clear where I stand

841
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Speaker 12: on Hamas on the question of recognition. Made my position

842
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 12: clear at the end of July is to the timing,

843
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Speaker 12: which has got nothing to do with this state visit,

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Speaker 12: and I've discussed it with the President as you would

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Speaker 12: expect amongst two leaders who respect each other, unlike each

846
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Speaker 12: other and want to bring about a better solution in

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Speaker 12: the best way that we can.

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Speaker 10: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 12: Can I go back then to Robert ITV.

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Speaker 10: Robert person ITV.

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Speaker 19: Mister President, you, uniquely, you alone the whole world, have

852
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Speaker 19: the power to persuade Prime Minister Netting Yahoo to stop

853
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Speaker 19: the demolition of Gaza City, to stop the starvation of Palestine,

854
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Speaker 19: and to stop the killing of civilians.

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Speaker 10: If not now, when.

856
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Speaker 19: Will you exercise and tell them to stop?

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Speaker 3: And then for both of you all, but you do

858
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Speaker 3: understand about October seventh. You do understand, believe me, the

859
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: worst days in the history of humanity. What happened. I

860
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: have seen the tapes. Babies they are four months old

861
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Speaker 3: and just chopped up to pieces. And you've seen the tapes,

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Speaker 3: and I've seen the tapes. You're a professional, and so

863
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 3: am I. And people forget about October seventh. I can't

864
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Speaker 3: forget about it. So I wanted to end, but I

865
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Speaker 3: want the hostages back. I don't want the hostages used

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Speaker 3: as human shields, which is what her mass is threatening

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 19: But as soon as they're back, that's the moment you

869
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Speaker 19: will tell that in the eye.

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Speaker 3: Well, it would certainly help, but I have to have

871
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Speaker 3: the hostages back, and I don't want them back piecemeal.

872
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Speaker 3: As I said before, I want them back.

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Speaker 19: And on a separate issue free speech, You're Vice President

874
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Speaker 19: Vance said that free speech is under attack in the UK.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with him?

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Speaker 10: And Prime Minister.

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Speaker 19: We saw the dismissal of a very well known chat

878
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Speaker 19: show host in America last night. Mister Kimmel, is free

879
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 19: speech more under attack in Britain or America?

880
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Speaker 3: Well, Jimmy Kimmel was saying because he had beard ratings

881
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Speaker 3: more than anything else, and he said a horrible thing

882
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Speaker 3: about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk. And Jimmy

883
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 3: Kimmell is not a talented person. He had very bad

884
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Speaker 3: ratings and they should have fired him a long time ago.

885
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Speaker 3: So you know, you can call that free speech or not.

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Speaker 3: He was fired for lack of talent. Yeah, please go yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean, firstly, on the question of Charlie Kirk, can

888
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 12: I just express how shocking that is I think to

889
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 12: everybody who believes in free speech and in democracy, and

890
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Speaker 12: it sent shockwaves through the world. And I know that

891
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 12: he was a president, he was a friend of the president,

892
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Speaker 12: and I reached out straight away to the President because

893
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Speaker 12: I understood how impactful it be on him and his family,

894
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Speaker 12: and we all need to be absolutely clear about that,

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Speaker 12: whatever our political views, it is shocking and is to

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Speaker 12: be condemned on free speech. Not much to add to

897
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Speaker 12: the answer I gave earlier. This country's had free speech

898
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Speaker 12: for a very very long time. It is part of

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Speaker 12: who we are as a country, and it is the values.

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Speaker 3: That we fought for.

901
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Speaker 12: We fought for it during the Second World War alongside

902
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Speaker 12: each other. So we need no reminding of the importance

903
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Speaker 12: of free speech in this country. Thank you, Robert, and

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Speaker 12: I go to Beth for the final question.

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Speaker 20: Please, Beth, Thank you, Sam Sky, Thank you, bethri Bi

906
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Speaker 20: Sky News, Thank you Prime Minister. If I could start

907
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Speaker 20: with you, Prime Minister, President Trump has said he's ready

908
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Speaker 20: to impose Moses sanctions on Russia if NATO country stopped

909
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Speaker 20: purchasing Russian oil.

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Speaker 10: He's got a point, hasn't he Is.

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Speaker 20: That what you now believe is needed to bring putin

912
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Speaker 20: properly to the table. And what's your message to the

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Speaker 20: President on US sanctions And mister President, if I may,

914
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Speaker 20: the UK the King praised your personal commitment last night

915
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Speaker 20: to find in solutions to the world's most intractable conflicts.

916
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Speaker 20: You have invested much of your time and effort in Ukraine,

917
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Speaker 20: but even as you seek to broker a deal, President

918
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Speaker 20: Putin is escalating the war. He's firing drones into NATO airspace.

919
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 20: You say he has let you down. Was it a

920
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 20: mistake to invite him to Alaska?

921
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: Do you regret it now?

922
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Speaker 20: And is it time to squeeze him and scare him

923
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Speaker 20: and impose sanctions? And finally, if I may, the elephant

924
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Speaker 20: in the room, Lord Mandelsson, he is no longer the ambassador.

925
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Speaker 20: Do you have some sympathy with him that he lost

926
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Speaker 20: his job over historic links to Jeffrey Epstein?

927
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Speaker 10: Thank you very much.

928
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Speaker 3: I know him. Actually, I had heard that, and I

929
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Speaker 3: think maybe the Prime Minister would be better speaking of that.

930
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 3: There was a choice that he made and I don't

931
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Speaker 3: know what is your answer to that.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean it's very straightforward. Some information came to

933
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Speaker 12: light last week which wasn't available when he was appointed,

934
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Speaker 12: and I made a decision about it, and that's very clear.

935
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Speaker 12: On the question of the pressure on Footin and on Russia,

936
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Speaker 12: which is obviously really important. Look, I think it is

937
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Speaker 12: a challenge, Tope. There are a number of European countries

938
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Speaker 12: which are too reliant on energy from Russia. The uk

939
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Speaker 12: actually obviously has almost got nothing at all. But we

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Speaker 12: do need to bear down and work with our European

941
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Speaker 12: counterparts here. There are one or two countries I think

942
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Speaker 12: that do need to look again at the question of energy.

943
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Speaker 12: There's no one silver bullet here. We do have to

944
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Speaker 12: have a wider suite of sanctions, which we've bill in

945
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Speaker 12: place a number of times, working across Europe and with

946
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Speaker 12: the United States, and of course we must and we

947
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Speaker 12: are making sure that Ukraine is in the strongest position

948
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Speaker 12: now because one of my long concerns here has been

949
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Speaker 12: that whilst we talk about a cease far, and we

950
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Speaker 12: all want a cease fire, and we talk about what

951
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Speaker 12: might happen after a cease fi, dostn't forget that Ukraine

952
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Speaker 12: needs our support now. And we've said we stand with

953
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Speaker 12: Ukraine from the start to finish, and that means we

954
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Speaker 12: must continue to supply them with what they need in

955
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Speaker 12: order to fight this war, which of course resulted it

956
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Speaker 12: from and is a result of Russian aggression. We have

957
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Speaker 12: particularly done the leadership role in the Coalition of the Willing,

958
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Speaker 12: so that if there is a cease far and if

959
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Speaker 12: there is a deal, and I do hope there is,

960
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Speaker 12: that he's then lasting and not then broken because given

961
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Speaker 12: previous history, I don't trust Putin.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very simply. If the price of oil comes down,

963
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Speaker 3: Putin's going to drop out, He's going to have no choice.

964
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Speaker 3: He's going to drop out of that war. And when

965
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Speaker 3: I found out that the European nations were buying oil

966
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Speaker 3: from Russia, and as you know, I'm very close to India,

967
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Speaker 3: I'm very close to the Prime Minister of India. I

968
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: spoke to them the other day. Wish them a happy birthday.

969
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Speaker 3: We have a very good relationship. People that had a

970
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Speaker 3: beautiful statement. Two we have. But I said, you know,

971
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Speaker 3: I thank you them. Uh, China's bang a very large

972
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Speaker 3: tariff right now to the United States. But I'm willing

973
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Speaker 3: to do other things, but not when the people that

974
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Speaker 3: I'm fighting for are buying oil from Russia. If the

975
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Speaker 3: oil price comes down, very simply, Russia will settle. And

976
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Speaker 3: the oil price is way down. You know, we got

977
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Speaker 3: it way down. We're drilling and we produce more oil

978
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Speaker 3: than anybody else in the world. We're doing a lot.

979
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 3: But I was disappointed to see that, and the Prime

980
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Speaker 3: Minister was disappointed to see that. And it wasn't him,

981
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Speaker 3: it was other countries. And you can't do that. You

982
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 3: can't do that. You can't that's not that's not playing

983
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: fair with the United States, and we can't have that.

984
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Speaker 12: Thank you, thank you very about today.

985
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: From checkers a almost one hour press conference. We've still

987
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: got doctor Peter Navarro. Let's go to uh, let's go

988
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 5: to doctor Navar. First off, we don't have doctor var

989
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 5: He left for is a lee o'clock. Okay, right there.

990
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 5: You saw, you saw President Trump in a wide range

991
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 5: of topics. I think one of the most controversial, obviously,

992
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 5: is this huge deal for the power artificial intelligence. Does

993
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 5: it has restrictions as it tied to any restrictions on

994
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 5: free speech? I thought Starmer's answers to the question were

995
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 5: pretty weak. Of course, people know I'm not a Starmer fan.

996
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 5: This was I think considered in particularly United Kingdom. Was

997
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 5: President Trump doing a solid for Starmer?

998
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 10: This deal?

999
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 5: And you had some of the top business guys in

1000
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 5: the world there, the typical names. Larry Fink went over

1001
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 5: for this business meeting, Steve Schwartzman was there, Larry Fink

1002
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 5: was there. There was a just a host of folks

1003
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 5: of business folks there. Tim Apple was there, So a

1004
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: whole host of folks to back this up. You have

1005
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 5: this huge nuclear power deal plus other deals, but it's

1006
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 5: driven by artificial intelligence. We're going to get some experts

1007
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: on AI. Really people that are I think what you

1008
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 5: call them decelerationists, right, decelerationists. So join us here in

1009
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 5: a moment with a on this new book. If anyone

1010
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: builds it, everyone will die, which is a kind of

1011
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 5: a gripping title. Let's just hit a reset. A great

1012
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 5: question there about Antifa being designated as a terrorist organization.

1013
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: Of course, Antifa's roots are in Germany and in Italy.

1014
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 5: They got French low countries, et cetera. Operations in England.

1015
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 5: Starmer completely passed on that. But the designation of Antifa

1016
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 5: gets to the bottom of all of it you saw

1017
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 5: today and the cold open, the squirming of all of it,

1018
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 5: et cetera. Do we have time before we get our

1019
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 5: new guest up or can we play the Charlie Kirk

1020
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 5: doctor Okay, I want to play This was very moving.

1021
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 5: It came out last night. It was going to be

1022
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 5: the end of our cold open. But as you saw,

1023
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 5: we cut to the we cut in the cold over.

1024
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 5: So let's go ahead and play this. I want everybody

1025
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 5: to hear this. Let's go ahead and play it.

1026
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 11: Here's what Erica wants me to relate on Sunday. This

1028
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 11: is going to be the hard part, but maybe also

1029
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 11: the comforting part. Charlie Kirk was literally like a son

1030
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 11: to me. I have three sons. He was like my

1031
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 11: fourth son. My three sons are a little bit older

1032
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 11: than Charlie. He was like my fourth son. So when

1033
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 11: he was hit, if your son got hit, what would

1034
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 11: you do? What would you do? I got in the

1035
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 11: car because if there was any way I could save him,

1036
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 11: I had to do something.

1037
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 10: Nah, I couldn't just we'll just take him.

1038
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 11: You guys got it. So they got him into the

1039
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 11: side of the car. It was an SUV because y suv.

1040
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 11: We took over and I'm on one side and there's

1041
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 11: actually some video there. Somebody's taking video of this. I'm

1042
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 11: on one side of the car, the right side, and

1043
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 11: they're getting Charlie in, so I run over the other side,

1044
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 11: but the guy was dragging him in. There's now blocking

1045
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 11: that entrance. So at that point I run around to

1046
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 11: the back. I popped the top of the back gate

1047
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 11: open and I jump in the back. The car lurches forward.

1048
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 11: Apparently somebody jumped in the cars. The car lurches forward,

1049
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 11: so I almost fall out of the car to the SUV.

1050
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 11: Then I grabbed the thing and close it. And there's

1051
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 11: five of us in the car. Now Justin's driving, Dan

1052
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 11: is up front with the with the GPS, Rick has

1053
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 11: got him. Rick's on my left, and Brian is there,

1054
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 11: and I'm coming over the back seat, and Charlie's laid

1055
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 11: out in front, just right in front of me, and

1056
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Speaker 11: Charlie's so tall we can't we can't close the door.

1057
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 11: We drove four miles some I don't know, it's four

1058
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 11: something miles to the hospital with the door open. To

1059
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Speaker 11: this day, I don't know how Brian stayed in the

1060
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 11: car because we're just go, go, go, go go. We're

1061
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 11: you know, we're trying to do We're trying to stop

1062
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 11: the bleeding. You saw it, and I'm yelling, come on, Charlie,

1063
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Speaker 11: come on, come on. Meanwhile, my phone is still on

1064
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 11: my son and daughter in law here and this whole

1065
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 11: thing and a security team again justin Dan, Brian and Rick.

1066
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 11: They love Charlie, but they were much cooler than I.

1067
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 11: I mean, they're just carrying out. They're calmly, but they're

1068
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 11: swiftly doing exactly what they were trained to do. Rick

1069
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 11: starts praying out loud. I'm praying out loud. We're yelling,

1070
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 11: come on, let's go, let's go, let's go. My son's

1071
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 11: here and all this, and we're we're doing the best

1072
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 11: we can to navigate traffic that's not a highway. We're

1073
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 11: on surface streets. And suddenly there's an ambulance coming toward us,

1074
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 11: and there was a conversation in the car. Should we stop.

1075
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 11: We're like, no, no, just keep going, just keep going.

1076
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 11: The doctor later said that was the right thing to do.

1077
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Speaker 11: Ambulance goes by us. We're still heading to the hospital,

1078
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Speaker 11: trying to get there. At one point somebody says, let's

1079
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Speaker 11: get there in one piece because we're just we're cutting

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Speaker 11: through intersections, you know, we're just beeping the horn. This

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Speaker 11: is not an emergency vehicle. There's no there's no lights,

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Speaker 11: there's none of this. And I go, we got to

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Speaker 11: start CPR, So I try and start that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 11: Charlie wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: His eyes were fixed.

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Speaker 11: He wasn't looking at me, he was looking past me,

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Speaker 11: right into eternity. He was with Jesus already. He was

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Speaker 11: killed instantly and felt absolutely no pain. That's what I

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Speaker 11: was told later. But of course we had to try.

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Speaker 11: By the way, there was just just nothing, nothing any

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Speaker 11: of us could do about it. We were giving him CPR,

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Speaker 11: but nothing was happening. It wasn't like if we had

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Speaker 11: better first aid, or we had better medical facilities, or

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Speaker 11: we were faster to the hospital, we could have saved him.

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Speaker 11: We couldn't. So if that's any comfort at all, Charlie

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Speaker 11: didn't suffer. He was going. He was with Jesus, absent

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Speaker 11: from the body, present with the Lord. That's where he was.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 11: It is true. When we got to the hospital and

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Speaker 11: they started working on him right away, they did get

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Speaker 11: a pulse back, and so Rick and I were just

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Speaker 11: that everyone's praying, we're just praying for a miracle. We

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Speaker 11: had a small sliver of hope, and the doctor later

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Speaker 11: said that we got a pulse because Charlie was a

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Speaker 11: very healthy man, but the shot was catastrophic. So twenty

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Speaker 11: or thirty minutes later, the surgeon came out and said

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Speaker 11: he was dead.

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Speaker 5: Thursday, eighteen September year of a lower twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: We had to break for the press conference at Checkers

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Speaker 5: and doctor Peter Navarro had to take a meeting over

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Speaker 5: in the West Wing.

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Speaker 2: He's going to.

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Speaker 5: Rejoin us Approximate eleven thirty to go through that, Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 5: This is why huge announcement overnight. President United State's going

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Speaker 5: to designate Antifa and affiliate organizations a major terrorist organization.

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Speaker 5: And this will now expand from what the authorities out

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Speaker 5: in Utah were doing, which is a murder, just a

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Speaker 5: typical murder case, to something that's going to really get

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Speaker 5: to the bottom of it. And I think you see,

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Speaker 5: you know my opinion on this ridiculous set of text

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Speaker 5: messages they're trying to foist on us, which is absurd

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Speaker 5: to do. Will break that more down to this afternoon Alex Brusso,

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Speaker 5: which is going to join us. I think he's over

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Speaker 5: a turning.

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Speaker 2: Point right now. Joints afternoon I want to bring.

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Speaker 5: On because of what happened at this press conference about

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Speaker 5: the there was this massive deal before the press conference

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Speaker 5: earlier today. Some of the audience might not have caught it,

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Speaker 5: but there was a huge announcement of this transaction for

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Speaker 5: nuclear power and four hundred billion dollars and all this

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Speaker 5: technology we're going to provide, and it's all down to

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Speaker 5: about artificial intelligence. I want to bring on the authors

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Speaker 5: of a book that I think is a must read

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Speaker 5: for every person in this nation. If anyone builds it,

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Speaker 5: everyone dies. It's about artificial intelligence. And two of the

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Speaker 5: individuals that have been there from the beginning and know

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Speaker 5: both the benefits and huge upside of artificial intelligence, but

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Speaker 5: also the potential downside and is there enough risk mitigation?

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Speaker 5: Eliza Kowski and Nate sores yud In. Nate, thank you

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 5: for Jonas here in the warm.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: First question, yet, I think I think it was you.

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01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 5: Weren't you the guy this like a year or so

1145
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 5: ago and Joe Allen? I was going through some stuff

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 5: with Joe Allen. Weren't you the guy that said, Hey,

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Speaker 5: if this thing gets so out of control, I will

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Speaker 5: be the first to go bomb the data centers? Was

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Speaker 5: that you?

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Speaker 10: No?

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 21: I was saying that we needed an international treaty and

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01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 21: was being plain that the international treaty needed to be

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Speaker 21: willing to be backed up by force, including on nonsignatory nations.

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Speaker 21: This wasn't about individuals trying to stop the data center.

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Speaker 21: I don't think that's gonna be all that effective. You

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Speaker 21: take out one, there's others. You banneck in your own country,

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 21: moves to others. This is an international treatise situation.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 21: It's not the kind of product which just kills the

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Speaker 21: voluntary customers or even people standing next to the voluntary customers.

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Speaker 21: This is something that dangerous people on the other side

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Speaker 21: of the planet. So trying to be plain, this is

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Speaker 21: the sort of treaty that needs to be active by force.

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Speaker 2: It has to be.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that is a it's kind of a brilliant concept, right,

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Speaker 5: And you're saying that even non signatories would have to

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Speaker 5: take out What is it make your case? What is

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Speaker 5: it about this technology that potentially could be so dangerous

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Speaker 5: to humanity? Because all we hear, all we get, we

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Speaker 5: get glazed every day we get glazed of how this

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Speaker 5: is so wonderful and this is so tremendous. And you

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Speaker 5: got You've got Larry Fink, You've got Steve Schwartzman, you

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Speaker 5: have the head of Apple. They're all over there cheering

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Speaker 5: this on because of artificial intelligence. You know, oracles now

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Speaker 5: on fire because of artificial intelligence. All we hear is

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Speaker 5: the upside. Why are you, as somebody who knows don't

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Speaker 5: have been there since the beginning, so concerned about it?

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Speaker 5: You think there has to be a treaty that potentially

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Speaker 5: nations of the world would have to take it upon

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Speaker 5: themselves or in unison to go take out the data centers.

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Speaker 21: Sir, there's a limit to how far you can push

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Speaker 21: this technology, how much benefit you can get out of it,

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Speaker 21: before it stops being a tool. Where already is starting

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Speaker 21: to verge on that. We'll already starting to seeing the

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Speaker 21: artificial intelligences that are being built today doing minor amounts

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Speaker 21: of damage that their builders, the people who don't you know,

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Speaker 21: they don't craft them, they don't like put them together

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Speaker 21: a bit by bit. They grow them. It's like a

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Speaker 21: farmer raising an AI, and at some point it stops

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Speaker 21: being a tool. At some point it gets smarter than

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Speaker 21: you able to invent new technologies we don't have. And

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Speaker 21: at that point, I think that the current minor incidents

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Speaker 21: of loss of control are going to turn into caustrophic

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Speaker 21: end of the world type incidents. It's not a new idea, really,

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Speaker 21: I think it's just it's actually going to.

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Speaker 2: Happen that way.

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Speaker 5: Explain to me. I want to make sure the audience

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Speaker 5: understands this. You guys say, AI has grown not crafted,

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Speaker 5: it's not like things we've known before. Con Nate maybe,

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Speaker 5: but one of you guys take that on. Tell just

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 5: explain to our audience why this is fundamentally different than

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01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 5: computer programs and neural networks and other things that have

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01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 5: been have been crafted in the past. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So when an AI uh cheats on.

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Speaker 22: A programming problem, which we're starting to see a little

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01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 22: bit of that these days, this is a case where

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Speaker 22: the AI has in some sense it's it's been trained

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Speaker 22: to to succeed at certain types of tasks and does

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Speaker 22: it in ways. What am I trying to say, Sorry, No,

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Speaker 22: there's no there's no line in the code that is

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Speaker 22: make this AI cheat on the on the program problems.

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Speaker 22: When ais do things nobody wants, nobody asks for, there's

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Speaker 22: no line in the code that a programmer can go

1214
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 22: in and fix and say, whoops, we did that wrong.

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Speaker 22: These ais, we gather a huge amount of computing power,

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01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 22: and we gather a huge amount of data, and we

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Speaker 22: shape the computing power to be better predicting the data.

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Speaker 22: Humans understand the process that does the shaping. Humans don't

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01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 22: understand what comes out of the shaping process. These things

1220
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 22: are and the result the result that comes out of

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 22: the shaping process. It does all sorts of things that

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01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 22: we weren't asking for these days. You know, we've seen

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Speaker 22: them threatened reporters. We've seen them cheat on programming problems.

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Speaker 22: These are small now, they're cute now, but they're indications

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Speaker 22: that we are starting to get ais that have something

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Speaker 22: a little bit like drives, something a little bit like

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Speaker 22: goals that we didn't intend and didn't ask for. We

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01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 22: keep making them smarter and they have goals we didn't want.

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Speaker 22: That's going to end really quite poorly.

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Speaker 5: Right now. The drive and crime wrong. The four horsemen

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Speaker 5: or five horsemen of the apocalypse, the companies driving this,

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Speaker 5: all of them are committed to artificial general intelligence, and

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Speaker 5: correct me if I'm wrong. I believe your guy's thesis

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Speaker 5: is that artificials, since we don't really understand artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 5: that well, hurtling towards superintelligence or AGI will be uncontrollable

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01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 5: and lead to a catastrophe and potentially the end of

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 5: humankind is that is basically that your central argument.

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Speaker 10: That's right.

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Speaker 22: It's not that the AI will hate us, it's not

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 22: that it'll have malice. It's that we're just growing these things.

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01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 22: There is no established science for how to make smarter

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 22: than human machines that aren't dangerous. If we keep pushing

1243
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 22: on making AI smarter and smarter while not having any

1244
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:40,879
Speaker 22: ability to direct them to do good things, the default

1245
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 22: outcome is just these ais get to the point where

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Speaker 22: they can invent their own technology, to the point where

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01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 22: they can build their own infrastructure, and then we die

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Speaker 22: as a side effect.

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Speaker 5: How are you guys being received? I hear these voices. Now,

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Speaker 5: we're trying to get many of them organized and get

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01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 5: a bigger place platform. But if you look at the

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 5: business press, if you look at just the general news,

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01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 5: if you look at what's coming out of Washington, it's

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01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 5: all this super cheerleading. You just saw it today at Checkers.

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if you saw the earlier

1256
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 5: announcement about the nuclear power plants, but it was all

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01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 5: about AI, AI AI and starmers just sitting there with

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01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 5: this pom poms out. We got a couple of minutes

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Speaker 5: in this segment, I'd like to hold you through it.

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01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 5: Why is it people like you guys who are very

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01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 5: involved and know this and have been there since the beginning,

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Speaker 5: Why are these voices not getting a bigger platform right now?

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Speaker 22: So I think a lot of people don't understand the

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 22: difference between chatbots that we have today and where the

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 22: technology is going. The explicitly stated goal of these companies,

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Speaker 22: as you said, is to create smarter than human AI,

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 22: to create AI that can outperform humans at any mental task.

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 22: Chatbots are not what they set out to make. They

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01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 22: are a stepping stone they you know, five years ago

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,520
Speaker 22: the computers could not hold on a conversation.

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Speaker 2: Today they can.

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Speaker 22: I think a lot of people in Washington think that

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01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 22: that's all AI can do and all it will be

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 22: able to do, just because you know, they haven't seen

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01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 22: what's coming down the line, and it can be hard

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01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 22: to anticipate what's coming down the line. I am hopeful

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01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 22: that as people notice that we're keeping making these machines smarter,

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01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 22: as they notice what these companies are racing towards, I'm

1279
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 22: hopeful that they'll realize we need to stop rushing towards

1280
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 22: this cliff edge.

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Speaker 5: Do you think we've got about sixty seconds here in Nate.

1282
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 5: Do you think that that's being presented on Capitol Hill

1283
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 5: or anywhere in the media right now that what you're

1284
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 5: saying needs to be done is being done not very well.

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01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 22: But I'm very glad we're having this conversation, and I'm

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 22: hoping that the book makes a big splash because a

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01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 22: lot of people. You know, a lot more people are

1288
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 22: worried about these dangers than you might think. And we've

1289
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 22: spoken to some people who say they're worried and say

1290
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 22: they can't talk about it because they would sound a

1291
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 22: little too crazy. And then we see poles saying that

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 22: lots of the population is worried. So I think this

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Speaker 22: is a center that has its moment to break out,

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Speaker 22: and I'm hoping the world wakes up to this danger.

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Speaker 5: Guys, can you hang on for one second. We'll just

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Speaker 5: take a short commercial break. Nate and Yudda with us

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Speaker 5: other book. If anyone builds it, everyone dies. It is

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Speaker 5: a absolute mush read. We have two people that are

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Speaker 5: experts and would have benefited economically as some of these

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Speaker 5: folks are. There's something to unite this country, and you

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Speaker 5: can unite this country around questions about the oligarchs and

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Speaker 5: big tech and exactly what's going down here, who benefits

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Speaker 5: from it, who's driving it, and doesn't have enough regulation

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Speaker 5: and does have enough control, and is it putting the

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Speaker 5: country's interest in human interest before corporate interest in the

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Speaker 5: making of money. Short commercial break Back with Nate and

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Speaker 5: Yudda in a Moment

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Speaker 2: In America