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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: This He's Hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuck Where

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Speaker 1: Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 3: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 4: It's Hubday, right up day, Look alive at Tostitos Championship

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Speaker 4: Plaza outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 5: Where our friends at Lenovo says it's eighty two degrees,

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Speaker 5: the high is eighty six and the low is sixty three.

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Speaker 6: Oh, he is shinning. That is Nate in the back.

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Speaker 6: It's Chris being keeping his live in the local. Today's

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Speaker 6: hump day. That means that it is Kurt two pumped,

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Speaker 6: Daniels three pumps to get you a flag.

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Speaker 3: Favorite day of the week. I am Salt and Pepper poppy.

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Speaker 6: Together we make hang it with the Boys, the sports

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Speaker 6: talk equivalent the Breil people.

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Speaker 4: Wingstop where Flavor gets its wee.

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Speaker 5: Mentos and dentals.

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Speaker 3: How we doing mentos and dentals?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I'm good Man.

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Speaker 5: I'm great good Kurt and great. Yeah, nice white shirt

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Speaker 5: like it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, good Man good, I'm good brother, I'm good Man,

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Speaker 6: gotta yeah, I'm good Man.

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Speaker 7: How good?

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Speaker 3: Breakfast this morning? Breakfast pancakes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm I'm very specific with my pancakes. I

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Speaker 6: don't come from the land of I want. I don't

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Speaker 6: want Krispy Edges.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You come from the land of I cook my ribs

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Speaker 5: in the crockpots.

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Speaker 6: Whatever if you ever had some good crock pot like

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Speaker 6: they starting the crock pot falling off the anyway, when

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Speaker 6: I come from the land of I don't want Crispy,

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Speaker 6: I just pancakes. I want light and fluffy. What actual butter?

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Speaker 3: Okay? You know what I mean hot and I got

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Speaker 3: them that way this morning.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so with you on that, and it bothers me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not ordering this.

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Speaker 7: You can come.

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Speaker 2: If you come out with me in order a waffle,

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Speaker 2: a pancake or anything. I'm gonna look at you once

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Speaker 2: you make the order, and I'm gonna look at the

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Speaker 2: waiter a waitress and say bring it when it.

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Speaker 7: Is hot, yes, yeah, I want it with my meal.

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Speaker 2: No, yes, bring it when it's because when this meal

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Speaker 2: get here twenty minutes from now, and them pancakes and

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Speaker 2: cold and that butter just sitting there.

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Speaker 6: Come on, my man, that's that thing while it's hot,

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Speaker 6: that's coming from an eater either right now, experience. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna ask you to break. I'm gonna ask you in

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Speaker 6: the break where you where you got them from. Because

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Speaker 6: I've eaten at this place once and it was the

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Speaker 6: most luffy pancakes I have every eating.

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Speaker 5: I want to see if it's where you at.

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Speaker 3: I said it was so good, it was. It was good.

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Speaker 5: I want to get by any free pub, and you

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Speaker 5: know that's.

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Speaker 3: All I wanted. I didn't want I didn't want no side.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to any weirdess.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you just crave something, just just and I hate

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Speaker 4: get it out of your mind.

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Speaker 6: I was very specific with the waitress and I said,

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Speaker 6: I just want this hot.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, I said, just bring it hot. Yes,

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Speaker 3: she said hot. I said, when they I said, you

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Speaker 3: look to the side like this, if the smoke ain't

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Speaker 3: coming up off of it, send it back and put

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Speaker 5: You got no side, just a pancakes.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted three hot, fluffy, light and fluffy pancakes.

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Speaker 7: But that's all I want.

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Speaker 3: I wanted, I didn't want anything.

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Speaker 2: I got a special place I go in and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna start being that's what I'm gonna just be more specific.

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Speaker 7: I just was like telling you man.

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Speaker 6: And I told her, if you can do this for me, yes,

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Speaker 6: I said, I'm gonna tip you good.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right because I'm not asking for it.

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Speaker 3: It's not complicated.

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Speaker 6: Just if you give me this, I am going to

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Speaker 6: be so happy that your tip will your tip will reflect.

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Speaker 3: By joy and uh, that's it.

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Speaker 5: Did you get it?

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Speaker 3: Smoke it?

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Speaker 7: Did it reflect? It did?

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Speaker 2: And I and I told the person to say, you know,

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Speaker 2: not about the the tip. I said, your tip is

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Speaker 2: going to be sweet. And so when they when I

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Speaker 2: finished and everything I was great. They say, I said, you're.

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Speaker 7: Ready for that tip? They said, yeah, coin in the spring. No,

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Speaker 7: I gave a good tip.

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Speaker 5: Get We got to give Nate a special shout out.

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Speaker 4: He was on our flagship station this morning for what

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Speaker 4: three segments?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I just want a little bit crushed.

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Speaker 4: If you don't, if you don't normally listen to them,

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Speaker 4: go find that segment on their uh, eight twenty, I

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Speaker 4: just stumbled across the by accident.

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Speaker 5: I was going to pick my kid up this morning.

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Speaker 5: Was like, what isn't they doing?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, you, I enjoyed it so much

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Speaker 4: like I turned the car off and just sat in

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was good man. No, you crushed it, bro,

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Speaker 3: you did.

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Speaker 7: I just had fun man, Bobby, because I like Bobby Man.

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Speaker 7: I like Bobby.

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Speaker 3: You like everybody. You get along, You get along man.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I did not want to put

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Speaker 2: your name in that even they say who did?

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Speaker 7: Why did they call you? Get along? Mate? That said

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Speaker 7: where it's four.

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Speaker 2: People to work at They kind of like, I know Esse, Yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I rob folks the wrong way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, people the wrong way?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 2: And one thing all all four of these people have

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Speaker 2: in common, and whether you.

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Speaker 7: Like them or not, they do their homework. You do

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Speaker 7: your homework, Nick do his.

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Speaker 3: You could talk to Mickey.

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Speaker 7: They all do their homework.

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Speaker 2: That's what empowers them to say, like you were very

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Speaker 2: just coming. I ain't never gonna dout my eyes again.

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Speaker 2: And I know what I'm you know, and and brought

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Speaker 2: us to be like, well, when I looked at.

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Speaker 7: The film, and you know, Mickey, I know.

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Speaker 2: You know, and heck people don't know Hecker, but Hecklan

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Speaker 2: the same way they y'all do your work.

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Speaker 7: Bro, I wish I was.

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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time I do.

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Speaker 6: I spent a lot of time in the in the

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Speaker 6: in the studying part of it. That's why I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I ain't gonna spend all this time for you to

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Speaker 6: tell me I spent too much time.

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Speaker 3: Doing it, Like, oh no, I just no, brother, You're

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Speaker 3: not gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: People like me and Kurt, we're just happy to be here.

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Speaker 5: We just get along with that, like hey, doing the debate. No,

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Speaker 5: you know, I can come back off that point for

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Speaker 5: hold on, PFL.

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Speaker 7: You don't put that on this computer?

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Speaker 2: Yeall?

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Speaker 5: No, that was good stuff, man, you crushed. That was

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Speaker 5: that was good.

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Speaker 2: I just had fun because I like, I like the

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Speaker 2: people I was around. I hadn't met the one guy.

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Speaker 2: I knew Choppy and I knew Bobby, but I didn't

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Speaker 7: So you know, and they all like Jess. I thought

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Speaker 7: everybody like Jes all like es. I could have found,

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Speaker 7: but one person, this one what that's what makes me

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Speaker 7: laugh like them.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's move on before we get in trouble.

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Speaker 3: That's what that's what we do, I know.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Let's get in trouble about something about our show,

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Speaker 4: not something in the past.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, cowboys offense? Who Kurt?

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Speaker 4: Who is coming back this week? Or do we have

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Speaker 4: any any words for sure on him?

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Speaker 8: Definitive Lamb is supposed to start pcticing today. He's looking

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Speaker 8: like a return. Jerry had said that Turpin could possibly

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Speaker 8: be back and Booker could possibly.

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Speaker 4: Jesse, what does your intuition tell you about those three guys?

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Speaker 6: My first intuition in City Lands, I'm gonna say I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna go out a limited this Wednesday and say City

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Speaker 6: Lands playing Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I really truly believe that. And you know, people

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Speaker 3: don't sometime good.

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Speaker 7: He is good.

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Speaker 3: He's going to play this weekend.

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Speaker 6: People don't realize the importance of a good returner. And

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Speaker 6: I'm speaking about this for Cavante Turpin because I think

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Speaker 6: he's gonna play it as well this week. And I

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Speaker 6: hope that Booker gets back in there. This is a

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Speaker 6: young guy who doesn't get the reps. Man, It's just

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Speaker 6: young football players at any position. When you're when you're

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Speaker 6: when you're positioned to help this fort any football team,

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Speaker 6: I don't care what team in is this team, any team,

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Speaker 6: and you can't get on the field for certain reasons,

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Speaker 6: it just it stalls your growth. Now for this particular reason,

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Speaker 6: it's injury. And and no fault to his own.

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Speaker 3: He got hurt.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 6: But a guy who's come in and even when he

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Speaker 6: was in there earlier in the year, wasn't at his

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Speaker 6: wasn't the best right.

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Speaker 3: And then when you talk about because this train.

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Speaker 6: Is like when the season comes, this train moves so fast, bro. Like,

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Speaker 6: it moves so fast, and every week it's a new

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Speaker 6: it's a new game plan, it's a new opponent, it's

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Speaker 6: teams and in the league, it'll pass you by. So

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Speaker 6: you if you're not a guy who has a ton

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Speaker 6: of experience banked up right like Ceedee Lamb has five

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Speaker 6: years of experience banked up in the vault with this quarterback,

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Speaker 6: with the league, with reps, with seeing defense already banked

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Speaker 6: for God like Tyler Booker, who doesn't. And this thing

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Speaker 6: is moving so fast and every week, it's a new

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Speaker 6: opponent that you've never seen before, because what you see

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Speaker 6: in Chicago is not what you're gonna see in Washington.

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Speaker 6: What you see in Washington is not what you're gonna

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Speaker 6: see in Minnesota. And so you you don't get a

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Speaker 6: chance to stack those things together, and all you're doing

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Speaker 6: is sitting back watching with no prior experience to go

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Speaker 6: off of. In this league, when you get back in,

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Speaker 6: you're trying, you're doing so much catch up it even

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Speaker 6: it can even sometimes hurt you because you're trying to

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Speaker 6: catch up so fast to what everybody else is doing, and.

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Speaker 3: The coaches are still moving. That's because you're not in there.

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Speaker 6: Clayton Adams are not saying well, because Tyler Book is

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Speaker 6: not in here, We're not gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna no TJ. Hey, we're going now.

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Speaker 6: We've got to a point now where you know they

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Speaker 6: got things going with Javonte, not last week, but prior

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Speaker 4: I'll ask you this first, Kurt, you jump in, Jesse,

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Speaker 5: How does that look? How does your ball distribution.

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Speaker 4: Look with Pickings, Kurt had a great static in Lamb's absence.

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Speaker 4: Pickings had three hundred and fifty nine yards, four touchdowns

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Speaker 4: How do you work those two guys together? Do you

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Speaker 4: bring CD back slow? Do you just throw them out

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Speaker 7: You hit the ground running.

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Speaker 2: That's why I believe And this is for Turping, this

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Speaker 7: Make sure you're ready.

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Speaker 2: This team cannot win games without thirty to thirty five

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Speaker 7: Hit the ground running.

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Speaker 2: You got to and that. And I'm actually coach Shottenheim.

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Speaker 2: I know you didn't ask this. Coach Shottenheimer. If you

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Speaker 2: very good day running. And man, just like this thing up.

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Speaker 2: You know what for all of us that we don't

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Speaker 2: want that to throw up more than forty five fifty

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Speaker 7: We'll get this thing.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is coming from the guy the last

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Speaker 4: fifteen years has been saying, run the rock, I pound

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Speaker 2: When you've had the office lineman to do it, and

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Speaker 5: So you've always talked about on.

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Speaker 2: This show, balance and make it right, play action passed,

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Speaker 2: CD for Flinoy. I'm sorry, Toby, you're gonna drop down Flinoy.

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Speaker 4: But you've always said on here, like you think Dak

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Speaker 5: Let me finish, sir. I know you're excited, but let

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Speaker 4: He he but he's got to have the tools around

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Speaker 7: So and I'm gonna do this right here? Am I right? Kurt?

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Speaker 7: Do you think that Jesse? Am I right? Correct?

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Speaker 2: I said this earlier, And I hate to do this

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Speaker 2: talking about that a different right Because I know that

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Speaker 2: Jesse didn't even get a dude top billing yesterday for Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: We will be giving Dak top billy like we given

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Speaker 2: And then we have to move you back up, Jaylen

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Speaker 4: You know, Jesse, the mentality of Pickings going into this

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Speaker 6: It wasn't that she didn't love me. She just loved

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Speaker 5: That's a good analogy. Four and a half year head start.

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Speaker 3: And so and that's what that's what they, that's what they.

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Speaker 6: So it's always gonna be like that. This is my

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Speaker 3: I know that you can make a play.

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Speaker 6: But I've seen it. We've we've made plays. We've done it.

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Speaker 6: my brother went to When my brother went to college,

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Speaker 6: well me and Graham's was like this, Well he Leving

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Speaker 6: went to college.

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Speaker 3: Man she me and her were like this. We were

446
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Speaker 3: we were we were we were thicking the thieves. You

447
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: When he come back for the weekend, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: now the love ake the save old j Holly.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, but but together.

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Speaker 8: Petts made place too. He's sitting there going, hey, don't

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Speaker 8: forget about me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's the thing, is like he's not going

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Speaker 6: to be forgotten about. It's still going to be But

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Speaker 6: we're not going to you thirteen times.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Six Cincinnati ought to tell you that this thing can

458
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Speaker 2: be great. The Bengals ought to tell you that this

459
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Speaker 2: thing can be great. You know Jamar Chase is I

460
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Speaker 2: got that and T Higgins, t Higgins.

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Speaker 5: No way he fit.

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Speaker 3: T Higgins got his money.

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Speaker 7: But you know when they hit the fan, he going,

464
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Speaker 7: he going. So it can work, bro, this thing can work.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about the tight end, don't worry about the

466
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Speaker 2: second and third receivers. Just every now and then throw

467
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Speaker 2: number nine something, keep him, keep him spicy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Hey, we're gone man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And and.

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Speaker 6: The way that George operates, a lot of his stuff

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Speaker 6: is usually big play stuff. Yes, right, So it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's the part that keeps him involved because he might

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Speaker 6: get a thirty forty yard player down the field, play

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Speaker 6: or touchdown, right like he that's what he wants to

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Speaker 6: keep going.

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Speaker 3: He wants to keep getting them touchdowns, so that part

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Speaker 3: you keep feeding them.

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Speaker 6: He gets eight touchdown, nine touchdown, ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He okay, would have a sixty eight yards let's city.

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Speaker 4: He works down the field and then just hit me

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Speaker 4: two big times in the game, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm we're good.

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Speaker 6: I'll take sixty eight yard sixty eight yards a game

485
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Speaker 6: for seventeen games.

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Speaker 3: Get you through a thousand yards.

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Speaker 5: Get you a nice new contract, get.

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Speaker 3: You to a thousand yards. You got twelve thirteen to

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Speaker 3: fourteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: See about twenty eight MILLI year, twenty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 3: It starts at twenty eight that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: That started at twenty eight his per year.

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Speaker 3: That's the just lost him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the franchise is gonna cost you twenty eight four.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we just studio.

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Speaker 5: Somebody could use him on their team. All right, let's

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Speaker 5: Nate tell us, we.

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Speaker 4: Hear that that name we've been hearing for about ten years.

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Speaker 4: Durron payn is he He.

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Speaker 2: Still watched two games and he's been okay, he's not

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Speaker 2: lit it up. I've watched the last two games only,

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Speaker 2: and I'm at halftime of the Chargers game. But what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you the defense, they run a

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Speaker 2: base four to three, and they will run the four

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Speaker 2: to three like this. They'll take the two tackles and

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Speaker 2: they'll just shade them one way or another over the

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Speaker 2: guards to the inside out, to the outside out, depending

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Speaker 2: on what they think the strength is. They will have

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Speaker 2: them defensive ends anywhere from a wide five to a

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Speaker 2: seven to a nine. They will put These are the

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Speaker 2: two games that I've saw. And I saw coming off

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Speaker 2: of the goal line and going onto the goal line

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Speaker 2: a bar look. It looked like a barrel look. But

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Speaker 2: they had the center covert covered, the two guards covered,

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Speaker 2: and they can have a wide nine with these two rushers.

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Speaker 2: These rushers can be inside linebackers. They could be what's

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Speaker 2: my what's my guy's name? Uh, it could be Wagner,

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Speaker 2: it can be Frankie Louvy. Uh, they'll even bring in

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Speaker 2: the n and the domester. They bring thirty nine up,

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Speaker 2: Frank Louisville, and they'll bring number thirty nine up and

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Speaker 2: let him play.

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Speaker 7: Uh that uh that will linebacker.

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Speaker 2: In a in a in a in a tweener position.

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Speaker 2: I mean what I'm saying between her is like it's

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Speaker 2: second and six, uh third and uh third and four

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Speaker 2: stuff like that. They'll bring him up and uh but

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Speaker 2: Louvy is always gonna be on the field. Is I'm

587
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Speaker 2: pronouncing that right? Loueville is gonna always be on the field.

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Speaker 2: They'll take Wagner off some time, number fifty four, but

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Speaker 2: number four is always gonna be on the field.

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Speaker 7: You can have a ray of rushers Armstrong. I can't

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Speaker 7: think of these guys name right.

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Speaker 2: Now, but they all of their their first for Devens,

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Speaker 2: Evans in first for tackles. Y'all gotta look it up.

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Speaker 2: I ain't looking at all this up, y'all. They gonna play.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have a continuous rotation of players. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: give you that kind of Cadillac look where they're gonna

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Speaker 2: cover the center, cover the guards, and the guys out

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Speaker 2: wide are they gonna give you an even look and

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Speaker 2: the linebackers depend. It just depends, and they just play

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Speaker 2: that and they looking for you to make a mistake.

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Speaker 2: You can have big run after big run, but they

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Speaker 2: looking for you to make that mistake so they can

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Speaker 2: rush you to have eighteen sacks, two interceptions, and a fumble.

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Speaker 2: At this point, they seem like they concentrated hard against

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Speaker 2: the Charges versus run, but.

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Speaker 7: They didn't do that against the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Swift had one hundred and four yards and then he

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Speaker 2: had maybe a thirty or forty yard touchdown run past Jesse.

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Speaker 7: So it just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What to think of them. I don't because, like I said,

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Speaker 2: if the film, I've watched Payne who you know who

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Speaker 2: I love to depth number ninety four. He just hasn't

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Speaker 2: dominated Javon Kenilock had a nice game against the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: number ninety nine.

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Speaker 7: He had a nice game. So uh and they won.

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Speaker 2: They beat them handily, but they lost to the Bears

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Speaker 2: at the last minute. Yeah, the Bears at the last minute.

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Speaker 3: They fumbled.

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Speaker 7: They fumbled.

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Speaker 2: Man, the quarterback should have just tried to hold on

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Speaker 2: to the ball. He's fumbling in the ball and rushing

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Speaker 2: into the running back's hand and he didn't never got

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Speaker 2: a handle on it. Dude, they would have won that game,

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Speaker 2: or they could have won that game. I don't like

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Speaker 2: to say the bright team won. So uh, I don't

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Speaker 2: know nothing about the coverages, so I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 2: it out.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 7: They're solid team. They got like Jesse said, they got

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Speaker 7: that player where they.

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Speaker 2: Got two of them because Darren Armstrong have five point

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Speaker 2: five sacks and he can rush the passer. Number nine

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Speaker 2: four can rush the passer. Ken Law can rush the passer.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to have if you want to

635
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Speaker 2: be in this game, you're gonna have to run the ball.

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00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to balance up. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: turn these guys loose.

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Speaker 8: On their third rushing defense or something in the league.

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Speaker 8: Yeah one of the top ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they're in the top third. And what the

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Speaker 4: ranked tenth defensive lines ranked tenth there uh six and

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Speaker 4: sacks and tackles for lost seventh in quarterback hits and

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Speaker 4: blitz per sit.

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Speaker 7: They want, we have to run that ball. You gotta have.

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Speaker 7: You got to because you can't.

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Speaker 2: Last week, I promise you their deal was not uh,

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Speaker 2: and I'm talking about to Carroll. It was not to

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Speaker 2: rush the passer. Everything they did was you're not running

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Speaker 2: the ball. They thought, and they believed that if they

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Speaker 2: stopped one ass spec of our game, and that's running,

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Speaker 2: we can take our chances.

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Speaker 7: With uh Pickens.

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Speaker 2: I got it right, right, We're gonna take And they

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Speaker 2: took their chances with Pickens, and at the end they

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Speaker 2: won because we could not run it, and they gonna try.

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Speaker 7: This team gonna try to do the same thing.

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Speaker 8: Can we run it against him?

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Speaker 6: Then if I'm if I'm the Cowboys, my runs are

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Speaker 6: on the edge, my runs are off tackle.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, sir, my runs are off the edges.

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Speaker 6: Where I'm not going to kind of want to challenge

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Speaker 6: this particular front is in the middle. I don't think

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Speaker 6: we have the horses, especially when you know Booker maybe

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Speaker 6: just coming back. You still don't have any no bb

665
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 6: and Tyler Smith is still trying to find his legs.

666
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 6: So I'm not going to challenge I don't I per

667
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 6: se wouldn't want to challenge them in that middle with

668
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 6: Doran paying the javan in law, and then the way

669
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 6: that they the way that they do it it is

670
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 6: to keep their linebackers free.

671
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: Frankie Louver and Bobby Wagner.

672
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 6: Bobby Wagner is still a north and South linebacker, really

673
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 6: good at that coming downhill, really good at that when

674
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 6: you get them having to move east and west.

675
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: Ninety seven years old, he just doesn't.

676
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 5: Didn't he all when they're talking him coming here a

677
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: few years ago?

678
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, when Dan Quinn was here.

679
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 6: Dan winning Quinn wanted to bring him here and he

680
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 6: wanted They said he wanted too much money.

681
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 5: So and he's still, uh, what does he got sixty something.

682
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 8: Tackles, second in the in the league?

683
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, tax, so he still got some.

684
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

685
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 6: So, but it's coming downhill if and that's how they

686
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 6: want to design this thing up front. They want to

687
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 6: be able to have Frankie Louvou coming downhill?

688
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: Where was he was? He always been in Washington?

689
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: Because I didn't know anything about him until you started

690
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: talking about him?

691
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 5: Was it last year? And now that seems.

692
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: Though he was, uh Carolina?

693
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: Was he Carolina before? I think you so, he was

694
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: out of the vision. That's why I didn'tn't really know

695
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: anything about him. But yeah, you started talking about him

696
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: last year and man, every game I watch him, Man,

697
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: it's like.

698
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: He is Carolina, right, he is all over the place.

699
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

700
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: No, he plays with his hair on fire.

701
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 6: I think a lot of times, and this is not

702
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 6: I don't I don't want to put a comparison game,

703
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 6: but play a comparison game a lot of times. Frankie Louvi,

704
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 6: who they want Maris Lee a foul to be And

705
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that he can't beat him, but Frankie

706
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 6: Louvi is a is a.

707
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: He's a good football player. You don't come off the field, man,

708
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: No he doesn't.

709
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: But like so I say, if I'm the Cowboys with

710
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 6: this particular defense upfront, I want to get to the edges.

711
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 6: Even the Bears, a lot of their runs that they had,

712
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 6: the big runs came whether the quarterback was doing the

713
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 6: swift was running it, it came off the edges. So

714
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 6: you know, maybe this is where you kind of insert

715
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 6: maybe a couple package runs for Jayden. Blue were being

716
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 6: able to use that speed off the edges. But if

717
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 6: if you think you're gonna be able to challenge this

718
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 6: team in between the tackles, you're gonna find out really

719
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 6: soon that you're just not equipped for that.

720
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: Right now, let's talk about Blue for a second, because

721
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: we didn't really talk about him after this game.

722
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: Does he ain't nothing to talk about?

723
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: Are they? How? Because he looks very timid to me,

724
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 5: he looks like he's pausing just enough. He doesn't look fast.

725
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: How he looks like a rookie.

726
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to say like that, that's the problem

727
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 6: I was saying that I was talking about, like with Bookers,

728
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 6: when these guys don't get a chance like he missed,

729
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 6: you know, being inactive all those weeks. He's coming into

730
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 6: this game and he's trying to find and I said

731
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 6: this before. All you all we've talked about when it's

732
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 6: comes to.

733
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: Blue is speed, speed, speed, home.

734
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 6: Run hitter, home run hitter. So even in his mind,

735
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 6: he's like, man, I gotta hit a home run. I

736
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: got to hit a home run. And sometimes instead of

737
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 6: you being that's what that's what Javonte is so good,

738
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 6: and it's because of he lacks speed, is that he's

739
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 6: so patient and he allows blocks to be set up.

740
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 6: He allows, you know, because even a running back, a

741
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 6: running back can set up a block on the second

742
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: level before he even gets there, just by taking a

743
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 6: step or two one way, and allows my guard now

744
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 6: when he's on that dual block to if I set

745
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 6: it up right and that linebacker stays there, my guard

746
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 6: can break off that. And then now I go and

747
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 6: that when that linebacker comes, he ran right into that

748
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 6: guard and I'm right off his butt.

749
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: Right.

750
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: So like those are little the little nuances that come

751
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 6: along with learning the game. This is not it's not college.

752
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 6: You're just not gonna out athlete everybody on.

753
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: The football field.

754
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 6: You You're not just running by everybody on the football field.

755
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: You got to set some of them things up.

756
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 6: And then for running backs, it's how could I get

757
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 6: myself in the rhythm three or four plays might not

758
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 6: get it. I need to be in there for a

759
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 6: two series to kind of see how the game is

760
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 6: being played, what's going on the blocking assignments, And that's.

761
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: Another thing to do that, huh, and afford to do that?

762
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 6: No, and that And that's the thing is that the

763
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 6: way that the road chation goes because even offensive linemen

764
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 6: and that you can speak you can speak on this

765
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 6: better than I can.

766
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 3: But you know, offensive linemen.

767
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 6: Block, they're they're taught to block a certain way, but

768
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 6: the blocking differs depending on the back.

769
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 3: Some backs are slower, some backs are quicker.

770
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 6: So getting that rhythm will to how the lineman is

771
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: supposed to block, even even the lineman getting the rhythm

772
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 6: of how the back is supposed to the back is running,

773
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 6: so his his his alley or his or his track

774
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 6: that he's supposed to be on.

775
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: That differs between each back.

776
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: So would you the struggles he's had and the limited

777
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: playing time that he's had, would you continue to give

778
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: him real game reps? Or would you say, you know what,

779
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 4: let's take those four touches he's getting and put them

780
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: in somebody's hands.

781
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 6: That no, you got to keep you got it because

782
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 6: eventually you got to know, you gotta know know, and

783
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 6: then the scene will open, right, the scene will open.

784
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 6: He'll he'll get one when that thing open up like

785
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: the Red Sea. And then and then he gets through

786
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 6: and you go there.

787
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: See it's a difference, uh, Javonte Juggernaut.

788
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: He is patient, Jugger Knaut, Yeah, he is patient like that.

789
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, what you call it is anxious.

790
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: When you're anxious, you can't see, you know, he gets

791
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: the ball in the first feet go to chopping. He anxious,

792
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: he hoping that this ain't a drawing play.

793
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 7: Son.

794
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: You gotta go towards the whole, right, you gotta take

795
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: your time and you gotta see did like just say,

796
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: when he set up that block, when you hang back

797
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: just a little bit in that linebacker, try to hit

798
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: that week's side a gap and all of a sudden

799
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: you pop out of that on that strong.

800
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 7: Side that linebacker. I mean that the guard's right up

801
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 7: there on it. Now you just ride. He just gotta

802
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 7: get rid of it.

803
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: Just get patient, be patient, and that takes time.

804
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 7: That takes time.

805
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: Again, he missed time in training camp, he missed time

806
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 6: in the preseason, so all those reps that he didn't get.

807
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 6: Then he was inactive for the first four weeks in

808
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 6: a season.

809
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing when you're a great athlete and

810
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: in college, no matter what you did, it always easter

811
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: not right.

812
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 7: But it don't do that on this level.

813
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you're playing against the greatest of athletes like you.

814
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 6: Every everybody here at this level is the is was

815
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 6: the greatest athlete at their middle school, high school, probably

816
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 6: their college, right and now you're just putting a collection

817
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 6: of those dudes on the team together just and that's

818
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 6: that's the that's that's the difference. So but like on

819
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: the secondary part of this, they they play a lot

820
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 6: of cover Like Dan Quinn is very familiar with Dak Prescott,

821
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 6: He's very familiar with Ceedee Lamb, He's very familiar with

822
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 6: lots of the they have already run this game. He

823
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 6: won't say it, Joe Whitt won't say it. It's personal, right, right,

824
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 6: Like this personal. It was supposed to be one of

825
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 6: them deals where you know, hey, when you moved on

826
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 6: from that coach, you're supposed to, you know, give Dad

827
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 6: Quinn a head coaching job, and he's supposed to promote

828
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 6: with them.

829
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: With Joe, it's personal.

830
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 7: And so.

831
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why.

832
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 6: I believe that they are as high as they are

833
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 6: ranked as far as rush defense, is because they do

834
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 6: what we are trying to get the Cowboys to do

835
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 6: with their rushes. They commit more guys they like, they'll

836
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 6: blitch you, right, and and it's kind of almost we'll

837
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 6: blitz on first down, we'll blitz on second down, which normally,

838
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 6: relatively speaking, our rundowns, right, It's not like it's third

839
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 6: down where you know the blitz is coming. They have

840
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 6: those where they'll put six, seven guys in the box

841
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 6: on the back end, they'll play cover six, they'll play

842
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 6: cover three, they'll play man and you'll see them a

843
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 6: lot of times where they're we call it rocking the

844
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 6: safeties right, So if the stript is to the defense

845
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 6: of the left right side of the right side for

846
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 6: the offense, and you'll see the safety down on this

847
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 6: side and the other safety kind of middle of the field,

848
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 6: and then you'll see emotion go and then you'll see

849
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 6: the safeties just rock. You'll see one come down and

850
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 6: the other one will replace him. So they're kind of

851
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 6: they'll they'll play it like that and that safety will

852
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 6: kind of fill into that gap, whether it's guarding that

853
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 6: man or coming down to that week side back or

854
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 6: so they're they're doing different things like that, which I

855
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 6: think a lot of time when you when you're doing

856
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: all that shifting and moving, they don't have problem with communication,

857
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 6: I guess because they're able to do all that kind

858
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 6: of stuff. But when you start running these crossers and

859
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 6: he start running these mess routes, that's when you can

860
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 6: start picking these guys off. When when when you can

861
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: when you can get guys like CD and interpend and there,

862
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 6: and they're moving across the formation and having a guy

863
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 6: come underneath the guy over top. That's when you can

864
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 6: kind of get off. But the problem is is that

865
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 6: they're Russian, so you got to be able to get

866
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 6: it off before Frankie Louvu, Preston Smith or kin Law

867
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 6: or one of those guys get to the quarterback Miller

868
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 6: and then they'll yeah, yeah he got he got anything left.

869
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, he just he just got somebody. Yeah.

870
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: So you know, but they're active group. They're very active group.

871
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: And and you can even probably see like like Marshawn Lattimore,

872
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: you remember him from from New Orleans, so they may

873
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 6: run different things whatever, like you know what, we're gonna

874
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 6: man over here, you're on George Pickens and we're gonna

875
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 6: double over here on CD or vice versa. Things like

876
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 6: that that you can do with Marshawn Lattimore because he's

877
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 6: still considered one of those type of corners that can play,

878
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 6: you know guys man man, I'm not saying that he's

879
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 6: gonna shut any of our guys down, but they would

880
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 6: be willing to at least see what that looks like

881
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 6: if we manned up over here and doubled another player

882
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 6: over here at different point in times in the game.

883
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 6: But if this defense, like I said, it's an active defense.

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00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 6: This is not a defense that can't be whooped. The

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00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 6: way that the Cowboys offense is playing right now, this

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00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 6: is definitely a defense that can be whooped if you

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00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 6: block it up and if you run the right runs. Again,

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Speaker 6: if their plan is to run in the A gaps

889
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 6: and the B gaps, I think you're setting yourself up

890
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Speaker 6: for failure.

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Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't think we have enough.

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00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 6: We don't have enough weight in our back pockets that's

893
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 6: gonna be able to control the line of scrimmage.

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00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: In that part.

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Speaker 6: I think when you get those guys that because again,

896
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 6: Bobby Wagner good linebacker coming downhill, I want Bobby Wagoner

897
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 6: to have to cover sutline the sideline that I want

898
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 6: the old man to have to move those puppies.

899
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: He can't. He can't move those puppies.

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Speaker 6: So I want to get running plays out on the

901
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 6: edge where I know I can get my younger, faster,

902
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 6: more athletic offensive lineman up to that second level and

903
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 6: get a piece of Bobby Wagoner, Because if you think

904
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 6: you're just going come right at him, he's shedding blocks,

905
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 6: he's taking on blocks, he's getting rid of He's still

906
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 6: that he got that old man's strength.

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00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: He's still being able to you know, he's smart. So

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00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 3: he plays his keys very very well.

909
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 6: He sees plays development like he's he has the mind

910
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 6: like Sean Lee where he'll beat you to the spot

911
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 6: just because he saw the formation and saw the guard

912
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 6: getting ready.

913
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: To pull, and now he's gone. He's gone.

914
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 6: He's very very good at recognizing keys and attacking. Frankie

915
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 6: Louvo is a young athletic one. He'll come and Frankie

916
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 6: louvill kind of set up and he'll he'll he'll jump

917
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Speaker 6: hill hills up around the.

918
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Speaker 3: Block, but he wins a lot of times.

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Speaker 6: Well hill jump around the block, and like they was saying,

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00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 6: hills up around, he'll get right back.

921
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Speaker 3: And you the office. The line will be looking where

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Speaker 3: you go.

923
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 6: Bobby gonna say boom, and we're gonna Bobby gonna fight

924
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 6: with you and get rid of you and then try

925
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 6: to make the player or at least tug up the hole.

926
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 6: So active group, very beatable group, very very beatiable group.

927
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 6: But the cowboys gotta be on the game up front

928
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 6: because this group will be coming at you different looks,

929
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 6: different blitzes. They'll have different they'll have somewhere. They got

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00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 6: seven guys dropped back and coverage, four guys standing up.

931
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: Nobody got their hand in the dirt. Right, they're gonna

932
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 6: they're gonna run tackling to stunts. They're gonna run blitzeres

933
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 6: off every edge mid games.

934
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Speaker 2: They'll go slow sometime they won't. They won't do it

935
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: right away. They'll go they'll go slow to see where

936
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: that quarterback gonna go. If you if that's that guy

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00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: is penetrating, if he gets on the edge and make

938
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: that quarterback move where he's gonna get out, then I'll

939
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: go on and finish my stunt. But if he's just

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00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: gonna stand there and come back this way, I'm going.

941
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Speaker 7: I ain't gonna complete the stunt.

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Speaker 5: So all right, good sup. Jesse breathe. There's a lot

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Speaker 5: of information.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to get it all them before

945
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: around of time.

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Speaker 5: You did all good stuff. Good stuff, Jesse, Nate, good

947
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Speaker 5: seeing you, Kurt, nice shirt. Chris, thanks for keeping us

948
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Speaker 5: on the air. We'll be back tomorrow, Josh, thanks for

949
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Speaker 5: keeping him company. Tomorrow. Cowboys Defense. You know, let's just

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Speaker 5: talk about Washington Office whole show. Tune in tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Cowboys Quashing his offense, Jade Daniels and Company Tomorrow and

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Speaker 4: hanging with the Boys.

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