Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office here
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. A great show today, Lindsay Hubbard from Summerhouse.
Speaker 1: But really is she a villain? It's one thing, Elik.
Speaker 1: I've talked about this a lot with the shows that
Speaker 1: I hosted for so many years, Bachler, Batzarette and Paradise
Speaker 1: and all that. I always find it interesting who gets that,
Speaker 1: you know, Moniker the villain? Did they earn it? Do
Speaker 1: they love it? Do they lean into it? Do they
Speaker 1: see themselves as a villain? Because that's what's really interesting,
Speaker 1: And one of the things I'll talk to Lindsay about
Speaker 1: is does she see herself as a villain? Obviously she
Speaker 1: stirs up drum on the show. She is one of
Speaker 1: the ogs of Summerhouse. Season eight is about to hit
Speaker 1: the air waves on Bravo. But you know, she just
Speaker 1: went through a very public breakup her fiance Carl with
Speaker 1: cameras rolling three months away from their wedding, off the
Speaker 1: engagement and broke up with her. They are back together
Speaker 1: in this season, so it is going to be awkward
Speaker 1: at best because they'll be back together but cameras are
Speaker 1: rolling the entire time. But I find Lindsay very interesting
Speaker 1: because she has embraced this, or has she or does
Speaker 1: she just see herself as a normal reality contestant kind
Speaker 1: of putting herself out there, and she's totally misunderstood. Let's
Speaker 1: find out. Let's talk to Lindsay Hubbard from Summerhouse.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in the hot seat.
Speaker 1: You are in the hot seat. That is the best
Speaker 1: way to describe Lindsay Hubbard. You've never been in the
Speaker 1: hot seat with me, but you're about to right now.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I feel like I did this to myself.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I was. I guess I didn't
Speaker 1: realize you've been there since the beginning eight seasons.
Speaker 3: I know, it's really crazy to think that we're on
Speaker 3: season eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I guess, I guess there's no one
Speaker 1: to blame, but you now you've done this to yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, oh man, I'm too good, and they
Speaker 3: just you know, everything gets mess here and messire as
Speaker 3: the seasons go on.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so I've obviously have my background in
Speaker 1: this world. I don't know your show, you know, as
Speaker 1: far as how produced, who's producing it, and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So I come at it with a blank slate of
Speaker 1: wonder as far as reality TV goes, are you enjoying it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you happy? I know you're back for an eighth season,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you're loving it?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you enjoying the process of doing this season after season?
Speaker 3: I am, because every season is so different and we
Speaker 3: always have, you know, like one or two new people,
Speaker 3: Like we got these two new guys for this season
Speaker 3: who bring a lot of fun and fresh energy to
Speaker 3: the show this year.
Speaker 2: So I do. I love. I love Summer House.
Speaker 3: It's a lifestyle that I've lived since before the show started.
Speaker 2: It's the culture of New York during this summertime.
Speaker 3: So for me, yeah, I love I love filming the show,
Speaker 3: being on the show, and you know, being the one
Speaker 3: who gets.
Speaker 1: Messy, that's a kind way of saying it, the one
Speaker 1: that gets messy. I've had a lot of experience with this,
Speaker 1: and I always ask people who are quote unquote the
Speaker 1: villain because people got that Moniker on my show for
Speaker 1: many years and a lot of sometimes it fit, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, sometimes it fit. A lot of times it
Speaker 1: did not fit. And I always ask the person, the
Speaker 1: human being who's behind this, how you feel about it?
Speaker 1: Because obviously you're embroiled in a lot of scandal and drama.
Speaker 1: That's the show. But how do you see yourself as
Speaker 1: a character on this show season in and season out.
Speaker 3: I think for me specifically, I you know, people know
Speaker 3: me as the one who's like the most like I'm
Speaker 3: the most authentically myself, you know, I put it all
Speaker 3: out there. I share everything about my journey and about
Speaker 3: my real life, you know, season after season, I've gone
Speaker 3: from you know, plenty of relationships just blowing up you
Speaker 3: know on the show, to family you know, traumas and
Speaker 3: and mother issues, to my career, the insides of you know,
Speaker 3: just me hustling around New York as a publicist, to
Speaker 3: you know, I once accidentally got pregnant and had a miscarriage.
Speaker 2: I have, you know, most.
Speaker 3: Recently had my fiance and our engagement, which is on
Speaker 3: this upcoming season. So you know, I think that I
Speaker 3: bear it all and I give, you know, everything in
Speaker 3: my soul to the show. And and I think the
Speaker 3: you know, the villain question, I think everyone different on
Speaker 3: different and seasons or different times, has there has their moments, right, like,
Speaker 3: not all of us can be perfect at you know,
Speaker 3: all the time. And I think, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 3: at one point I was a villain and then at
Speaker 3: another point I was, you know, pulling at the heartstrings
Speaker 3: of people. And I think, you know, I've I've grown
Speaker 3: up a lot. I mean eight eight seasons, eight years,
Speaker 3: I've grown up a lot. And you've actually experienced and
Speaker 3: gone through this journey of watching me mature and grow
Speaker 3: as the years have gone on.
Speaker 1: We do have to talk about Carl obviously very publicized
Speaker 1: the fact that he called off the engagement. There were
Speaker 1: cameras present, cameras rolling. That's something I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about because I have again had a lot of
Speaker 1: experience with these situations where obviously he went to producers
Speaker 1: told them this was going to happen, and so they
Speaker 1: are set up. You walk in and you see cameras there.
Speaker 1: What are you thinking or was this just a normal
Speaker 1: shooting day and this happened.
Speaker 3: I felt very blindsided with the breakup. You know, two
Speaker 3: weeks beforehand was my bridal shower, which was also the
Speaker 3: same day as my birthday, and he shows up to
Speaker 3: my bridle shower and you know, is like crying and
Speaker 3: you know, bringing me flowers and showering me with love,
Speaker 3: and you know, around the same time was posting on
Speaker 3: Instagram like, happy birthday to the love of my life,
Speaker 3: my partner, my best friend, I can't wait to marry
Speaker 3: you in one hundred days, et cetera. So you know,
Speaker 3: for that to happen, and then two weeks later, you
Speaker 3: know he's ending our engagement and we're breaking up and
Speaker 3: he's calling off the wedding was just very shocking and
Speaker 3: surprising and blind siding, and like all of all of
Speaker 3: the feels surrounding surrounding that.
Speaker 1: And hopefully you feel like this will portray and be
Speaker 1: played out appropriately for you, and that's part of bearing
Speaker 1: your soul on these shows.
Speaker 3: All I can tell you is in that moment, I
Speaker 3: had no idea what was coming, and I I feel
Speaker 3: like other people probably knew what was potentially headed my way,
Speaker 3: but I had no clue.
Speaker 1: One boss move that I loved, and you were very
Speaker 1: public about this as you went on your bachelorette party.
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, that's carl, I'm going on my bachelorette
Speaker 1: party to the Bahamas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we had that, these girls had planned
Speaker 3: that bachelorette, you know, months in advance, and when everything
Speaker 3: went down, my girlfriends rallied around me like I've never
Speaker 3: seen girls do before. And I used to just cry
Speaker 3: and cry and cry about how amazing my friends were,
Speaker 3: because honestly, the first few weeks of this breakup were brutal.
Speaker 2: They were.
Speaker 3: It was just absolutely brutal. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 1: You're in mourning. I think people don't ever associate that
Speaker 1: with with loss of someone dying because it's so extreme,
Speaker 1: but it truly is. You're in mourning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and also you're in survival mode, right because
Speaker 3: you're just like trying to you know, the first couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, or at least the Yeah, the first couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, I was just operating like hour by hour,
Speaker 3: and then I was operating day by day. And then
Speaker 3: I was finally able to get to a point where
Speaker 3: I could start thinking, oh, you know, let me, let
Speaker 3: me plan something for myself next week. And so I
Speaker 3: carried on with my bacherette trip to the Bahamas because
Speaker 3: I really wanted to celebrate my girlfriends and I wanted
Speaker 3: to celebrate our friendship, and that trip was so important
Speaker 3: to me because you know, obviously I had the time
Speaker 3: of my life with my friends.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: You know, it really helped me gain.
Speaker 3: Momentum and confidence of like, Okay, I can do this,
Speaker 3: and I am not alone in this breakup, and and
Speaker 3: my friends made it a point to make me feel
Speaker 3: that whatever I was going through or feeling, they were
Speaker 3: also in it with me, and I was never alone.
Speaker 3: So it really helped with like, you know, that next
Speaker 3: step of like Okay, now I'll put one foot in
Speaker 3: front of the other and just keep moving forward and
Speaker 3: use the momentum and confidence that my and strength that
Speaker 3: my girlfriends gave me to keep pushing forward.
Speaker 1: We do know Carl is back on season eight. You're
Speaker 1: shooting with Carl. He's a part of Summer House set
Speaker 1: this season up. What are we about to go through
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean this this season is a really fun season,
Speaker 3: So I want to start there. It's we had more
Speaker 3: fun line summer than than I think we have you know,
Speaker 3: as a group in a couple of years.
Speaker 2: So we had a lot of fun together.
Speaker 3: All of us girls really got along, and and when
Speaker 3: all the girls get along, it's you know, the energy
Speaker 3: is high. So it really is a fun season, and
Speaker 3: I think, you know, for for me personally, what was
Speaker 3: I doing last summer?
Speaker 2: I was planning a wedding.
Speaker 1: So oh, how life can change?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm interested to watch this season and and
Speaker 3: and and really see the conversations that we miss when
Speaker 3: you know other people are behind closed doors, and maybe
Speaker 3: continue uh putting the puzzle pieces together.
Speaker 1: Well and talk about a big one eighty. Uh. You
Speaker 1: got a house in Nashville. You've like talked about talking
Speaker 1: about ripping the band aid off. You're like, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to change everything. Was this just part of a
Speaker 1: new life for you? A new start?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't necessarily part of a new life. I
Speaker 3: think it was more like I had been wanting.
Speaker 2: To invest in real estate for a while.
Speaker 3: I thought that was going to maybe be a house
Speaker 3: that I moved into with you know, my ex and
Speaker 3: our future family that we never got a chance to have.
Speaker 2: So I you know, it's at the end of the day, like.
Speaker 3: I want to invest my money, and I want to
Speaker 3: invest it in real estate. I went down to Nashville
Speaker 3: in October and I just fell in love with the city.
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you've ever been, I'm.
Speaker 1: Sure I'm I'm in Austin, Texas, very similar. I mean,
Speaker 1: Nashville is absolutely blowing up. It's a great city.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I just think it's so fun.
Speaker 3: There's so much to do. I love country music, you know,
Speaker 3: and the country boys are are not not hard on
Speaker 3: the eyes.
Speaker 2: We'll just say that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I I know of at least one single guy
Speaker 1: that lives in Nashville. I don't know if you're single.
Speaker 1: I don't know how Season eight's gonna go. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Tartick is a good friend of mine.
Speaker 1: He just recently went through a breakup as well.
Speaker 2: I did. I did watch or read the news about that.
Speaker 2: I think I was.
Speaker 3: Maybe gonna do his podcast when I was down there
Speaker 3: this past trip, but I just had no time. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is the first time I bought a house, and
Speaker 3: it is no joke. It is no joke. Just you know,
Speaker 3: in December. Actually it started in November, right after the
Speaker 3: Cmas I was I went house hunting and looked at
Speaker 3: different properties, and then by Thanksgiving I put an offer
Speaker 3: in on the you know, the house that I liked,
Speaker 3: and then by the end of December, I was trying
Speaker 3: to get to the closing and approved for my mortgage
Speaker 3: and then you know, close on the house. And then
Speaker 3: January was just all about you know, working with my
Speaker 3: design team and designing the house. And then literally in
Speaker 3: the last two weeks it all came together, the install,
Speaker 3: the final touches, the photo shoots. So it was it
Speaker 3: was a very quick process, but it was worth it.
Speaker 3: And I'm so excited because, you know, hopefully a lot
Speaker 3: of people will go to Nashville and enjoy my house,
Speaker 3: even though I probably I'll probably not.
Speaker 2: Be saying there ever again, but hopefully everyone else.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that you're going to deal
Speaker 1: with along with, you know, the hundreds of millions of
Speaker 1: others in this country, tax season is coming up. And
Speaker 1: I know that I don't want to add more stress
Speaker 1: to your life, but I know you're dealing with that
Speaker 1: as well. How are you dealing with it so well?
Speaker 3: I know it's hard to believe that tax season is
Speaker 3: right around the corner, and it's definitely no secret that
Speaker 3: tax season can be stressful. People get frustrated or as
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, look, I think some of us
Speaker 1: get so overwhelmed by all this you end up just
Speaker 1: not doing anything. It's like paralyzing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Or if you wind up throwing your phone and breaking it,
Speaker 3: you can go to go to straight Talk dot com
Speaker 3: and they can help you out.
Speaker 1: We're almost encouraging you to do that because you're going
Speaker 1: to get a new phone out of it. Lindsey, appreciate
Speaker 1: the time. I know you have a lot more to
Speaker 1: do because you have a big day coming up with
Speaker 1: Summer House. I'm glad you're back and with everybody. I
Speaker 1: can't look. I love awkward, that's the other I love love,
Speaker 1: but I also love awkward. And obviously you Carl watch
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, not getting back together. Don't get back
Speaker 1: together with him, damn it, don't do it, Lindsay, don't be,
Speaker 1: don't be. Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan, Well.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're trying to set me up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm setting you up. We're moving on onward and upward.
Speaker 1: We can do much better than Karl. All Right, Lindsay,
Speaker 1: take care.
Speaker 2: Thanks Chris My, Thanks.
Speaker 1: To Lindsey, who is about to jump into a very
Speaker 1: dramatic season eight of Summer House. Okay, here's my thirty
Speaker 1: thousand foot level prediction. They're going to get back together.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I just said I hope you don't.
Speaker 1: But knowing how reality TV works, obviously the cameras were there.
Speaker 1: Obviously they were in production, so this was very well produced.
Speaker 1: She went publicly on her bachelorette party, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: the cameras are rolling there. They're going to come back
Speaker 1: at some point. My guess is they cross paths again,
Speaker 1: they get back together. I don't know if it'll stick,
Speaker 1: but that's my prediction for Summer else. And again, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything. This is just my I've been around
Speaker 1: this rodeo for quite some time. That's my guess is
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull a Larsa Pippen, Marcus Jordan. We broke up,
Speaker 1: it's good TV. We get back together. It's better TV
Speaker 1: because the only thing people love more than a good
Speaker 1: breakup is a great redemption story. But my thanks to Lindsay.
Speaker 1: She is a great character. She's put herself out there
Speaker 1: for eight seasons on Summer House and it is hitting
Speaker 1: the airwaves on Bravo. So wish her the very best,
Speaker 1: and I wish the best for all of you. Thank
Speaker 1: you for joining me today. We will talk again soon
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