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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office here

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Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. A great show today, Lindsay Hubbard from Summerhouse.

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Speaker 1: But really is she a villain? It's one thing, Elik.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this a lot with the shows that

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Speaker 1: I hosted for so many years, Bachler, Batzarette and Paradise

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Speaker 1: and all that. I always find it interesting who gets that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Moniker the villain? Did they earn it? Do

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Speaker 1: they love it? Do they lean into it? Do they

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Speaker 1: see themselves as a villain? Because that's what's really interesting,

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I'll talk to Lindsay about

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Speaker 1: is does she see herself as a villain? Obviously she

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Speaker 1: stirs up drum on the show. She is one of

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Speaker 1: the ogs of Summerhouse. Season eight is about to hit

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Speaker 1: the air waves on Bravo. But you know, she just

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Speaker 1: went through a very public breakup her fiance Carl with

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Speaker 1: cameras rolling three months away from their wedding, off the

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Speaker 1: engagement and broke up with her. They are back together

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Speaker 1: in this season, so it is going to be awkward

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Speaker 1: at best because they'll be back together but cameras are

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Speaker 1: rolling the entire time. But I find Lindsay very interesting

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Speaker 1: because she has embraced this, or has she or does

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Speaker 1: she just see herself as a normal reality contestant kind

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Speaker 1: of putting herself out there, and she's totally misunderstood. Let's

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Speaker 1: find out. Let's talk to Lindsay Hubbard from Summerhouse.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: You are in the hot seat. That is the best

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Speaker 1: way to describe Lindsay Hubbard. You've never been in the

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Speaker 1: hot seat with me, but you're about to right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I feel like I did this to myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I was. I guess I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize you've been there since the beginning eight seasons.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's really crazy to think that we're on

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Speaker 3: season eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I guess, I guess there's no one

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Speaker 1: to blame, but you now you've done this to yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, oh man, I'm too good, and they

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Speaker 3: just you know, everything gets mess here and messire as

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Speaker 3: the seasons go on.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so I've obviously have my background in

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Speaker 1: this world. I don't know your show, you know, as

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Speaker 1: far as how produced, who's producing it, and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I come at it with a blank slate of

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Speaker 1: wonder as far as reality TV goes, are you enjoying it?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you happy? I know you're back for an eighth season,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you're loving it?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you enjoying the process of doing this season after season?

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Speaker 3: I am, because every season is so different and we

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Speaker 3: always have, you know, like one or two new people,

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Speaker 3: Like we got these two new guys for this season

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Speaker 3: who bring a lot of fun and fresh energy to

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Speaker 3: the show this year.

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Speaker 2: So I do. I love. I love Summer House.

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Speaker 3: It's a lifestyle that I've lived since before the show started.

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Speaker 2: It's the culture of New York during this summertime.

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Speaker 3: So for me, yeah, I love I love filming the show,

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Speaker 3: being on the show, and you know, being the one

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Speaker 3: who gets.

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Speaker 1: Messy, that's a kind way of saying it, the one

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Speaker 1: that gets messy. I've had a lot of experience with this,

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Speaker 1: and I always ask people who are quote unquote the

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Speaker 1: villain because people got that Moniker on my show for

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Speaker 1: many years and a lot of sometimes it fit, I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest, sometimes it fit. A lot of times it

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Speaker 1: did not fit. And I always ask the person, the

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Speaker 1: human being who's behind this, how you feel about it?

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Speaker 1: Because obviously you're embroiled in a lot of scandal and drama.

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Speaker 1: That's the show. But how do you see yourself as

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Speaker 1: a character on this show season in and season out.

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Speaker 3: I think for me specifically, I you know, people know

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Speaker 3: me as the one who's like the most like I'm

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Speaker 3: the most authentically myself, you know, I put it all

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Speaker 3: out there. I share everything about my journey and about

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Speaker 3: my real life, you know, season after season, I've gone

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Speaker 3: from you know, plenty of relationships just blowing up you

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Speaker 3: just me hustling around New York as a publicist, to

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Speaker 3: you know, I once accidentally got pregnant and had a miscarriage.

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Speaker 2: I have, you know, most.

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Speaker 3: Recently had my fiance and our engagement, which is on

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Speaker 3: this upcoming season. So you know, I think that I

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Speaker 3: bear it all and I give, you know, everything in

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Speaker 3: another point I was, you know, pulling at the heartstrings

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Speaker 3: up a lot. I mean eight eight seasons, eight years,

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Speaker 3: I've grown up a lot. And you've actually experienced and

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Speaker 1: We do have to talk about Carl obviously very publicized

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Speaker 1: the fact that he called off the engagement. There were

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking or was this just a normal

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Speaker 3: I felt very blindsided with the breakup. You know, two

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Speaker 3: weeks beforehand was my bridal shower, which was also the

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Speaker 3: same day as my birthday, and he shows up to

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Speaker 3: you know, bringing me flowers and showering me with love,

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Speaker 3: and you know, around the same time was posting on

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Speaker 3: you in one hundred days, et cetera. So you know,

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Speaker 3: for that to happen, and then two weeks later, you

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Speaker 1: And hopefully you feel like this will portray and be

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Speaker 3: All I can tell you is in that moment, I

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Speaker 1: One boss move that I loved, and you were very

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Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, that's carl, I'm going on my bachelorette

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we had that, these girls had planned

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Speaker 3: went down, my girlfriends rallied around me like I've never

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Speaker 3: because honestly, the first few weeks of this breakup were brutal.

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Speaker 2: They were.

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Speaker 3: It was just absolutely brutal. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep.

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Speaker 1: You're in mourning. I think people don't ever associate that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and also you're in survival mode, right because

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Speaker 3: you're just like trying to you know, the first couple

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Speaker 3: carried on with my bacherette trip to the Bahamas because

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Speaker 2: You know, it really helped me gain.

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Speaker 3: Momentum and confidence of like, Okay, I can do this,

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Speaker 3: and I am not alone in this breakup, and and

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Speaker 3: that whatever I was going through or feeling, they were

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Speaker 3: So it really helped with like, you know, that next

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Speaker 1: We do know Carl is back on season eight. You're

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Speaker 1: this season up. What are we about to go through

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Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean this this season is a really fun season,

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Speaker 3: So I want to start there. It's we had more

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Speaker 3: fun line summer than than I think we have you know,

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Speaker 2: So we had a lot of fun together.

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Speaker 3: All of us girls really got along, and and when

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, for for me personally, what was

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Speaker 2: I was planning a wedding.

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Speaker 1: So oh, how life can change?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm interested to watch this season and and

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Speaker 3: and and really see the conversations that we miss when

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Speaker 3: you know other people are behind closed doors, and maybe

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Speaker 3: continue uh putting the puzzle pieces together.

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Speaker 1: Well and talk about a big one eighty. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: got a house in Nashville. You've like talked about talking

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Speaker 1: about ripping the band aid off. You're like, I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to change everything. Was this just part of a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't necessarily part of a new life. I

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Speaker 3: think it was more like I had been wanting.

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Speaker 2: To invest in real estate for a while.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was going to maybe be a house

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Speaker 2: So I you know, it's at the end of the day, like.

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Speaker 3: I want to invest my money, and I want to

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Speaker 3: invest it in real estate. I went down to Nashville

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Speaker 3: in October and I just fell in love with the city.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, if you've ever been, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sure I'm I'm in Austin, Texas, very similar. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Nashville is absolutely blowing up. It's a great city.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I just think it's so fun.

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Speaker 3: There's so much to do. I love country music, you know,

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Speaker 3: and the country boys are are not not hard on

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Speaker 2: We'll just say that, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I I know of at least one single guy

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Season eight's gonna go. But uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jason Tartick is a good friend of mine.

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Speaker 2: I did. I did watch or read the news about that.

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Speaker 2: I think I was.

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Speaker 3: Maybe gonna do his podcast when I was down there

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Speaker 3: January was just all about you know, working with my

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Speaker 3: And I'm so excited because, you know, hopefully a lot

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Speaker 3: even though I probably I'll probably not.

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Speaker 2: Be saying there ever again, but hopefully everyone else.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that you're going to deal

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Speaker 1: I know that I don't want to add more stress

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Speaker 3: I know it's hard to believe that tax season is

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Speaker 2: Throw their phones.

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Speaker 3: So I partnered with straight Talk Wireless where they have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, look, I think some of us

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Or if you wind up throwing your phone and breaking it,

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Speaker 3: you can go to go to straight Talk dot com

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Speaker 3: and they can help you out.

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Speaker 1: We're almost encouraging you to do that because you're going

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Speaker 1: to get a new phone out of it. Lindsey, appreciate

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Speaker 1: Summer House. I'm glad you're back and with everybody. I

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Speaker 1: can't look. I love awkward, that's the other I love love,

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Speaker 1: but I also love awkward. And obviously you Carl watch

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Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, not getting back together. Don't get back

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Speaker 1: together with him, damn it, don't do it, Lindsay, don't be,

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Speaker 1: don't be. Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan, Well.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you're trying to set me up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm setting you up. We're moving on onward and upward.

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Speaker 1: We can do much better than Karl. All Right, Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: take care.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Chris My, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: To Lindsey, who is about to jump into a very

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Speaker 1: dramatic season eight of Summer House. Okay, here's my thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand foot level prediction. They're going to get back together.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. I just said I hope you don't.

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Speaker 1: But knowing how reality TV works, obviously the cameras were there.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they were in production, so this was very well produced.

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Speaker 1: She went publicly on her bachelorette party, which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the cameras are rolling there. They're going to come back

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Speaker 1: at some point. My guess is they cross paths again,

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Speaker 1: they get back together. I don't know if it'll stick,

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Speaker 1: but that's my prediction for Summer else. And again, I

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Speaker 1: don't know anything. This is just my I've been around

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Speaker 1: they're gonna pull a Larsa Pippen, Marcus Jordan. We broke up,

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Speaker 1: it's good TV. We get back together. It's better TV

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Speaker 1: because the only thing people love more than a good

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Speaker 1: breakup is a great redemption story. But my thanks to Lindsay.

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Speaker 1: She is a great character. She's put herself out there

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Speaker 1: and I wish the best for all of you. Thank

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