WEBVTT - Mary Steenburgen, Our Close Friend 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:05.800 Do you mind if I crack these? 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:06.080 Mary? 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:06.520 Yeah? 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.479 So Mary, it's please Hayes's birthday today. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.520 Oh my god, happy birthday. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:17.400 Yeah, we'll see if it's a joke in the bag. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.880 No, it's not a joke. I would never joke about 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.320 Hayes's birthday, Mary. Not only is it my birthday, I 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.320 turned forty today. Mm hmm. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.520 That's when life gets. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.000 That's when it gets good right well for a podcast 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.279 or it really means something. And I take being a 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.440 forty year old podcaster very seriously. It's not a responsibility 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:46.960 that I take lightly. Yeah, okay, Yeah, I understand the 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.640 responsibility that comes with wearing that crown of being a 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.479 forty year old podcaster. I've watched my boy here do 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:53.720 it for a minute. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.240 And duct myself with grace, you know, And the whole 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.240 time I've been thinking that's gonna be me. Someday. 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:59.520 I'm going to be a forty year old. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.760 Podcast but it but it doesn't just happen. You got 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:02.560 to put the time in. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.400 What changes do you think from thirty nine to forty 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:07.800 in terms of podcasting. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.560 In terms of podcasting, they so the listeners, first of all, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.559 they go up a lot, a lot more people show 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.679 up to listen to a forty year old podcaster. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.600 Because they know that you've got something to say. 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.480 I mean, there's some worldly experience that you've garnered over 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.680 the years and we all share audience. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.560 Did they become more mature along with you? Or and 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.680 you leave those kids behind? 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.520 Or we definitely have left a lot of people behind 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.279 because they start coming from you once they turn forty. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.600 They want the chair, you know what I mean. So 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.840 then the hunt is on. So then it becomes sort 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:51.720 of like a battle royale type, like royal rumble. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:52.280 Type, King of the mountain. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.760 You're Queen of the mountain, you know, And so I know, 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.040 I know they're watching. I know they want to see 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:02.240 me fall and we'll find out and what I can 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.640 do with the tree. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.240 It says happy birthday, hayes from Kevin, So personal, Kevin, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:15.480 How did did you write that yourself? Kevin? I did? Hi, guys, Okay. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.120 Oh my god, it's so dark. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.880 So creepy. You fell down the stairs, Kevin because it 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.880 was so dark, it was so dark and slippery with 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:28.320 my slippery socks. But uh, don't worry. I'm okay, fell 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.640 I only landed on my back. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.760 But we've got to work on getting some new some 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:38.960 new lighting you birthday, hay. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.280 You ever I have had them, I used to dance. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.360 Are you a fan? One of his jokes. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:48.520 Mary, you're sort of famous actually for baking pies, aren't you? 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.480 Are you known as one? 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.200 I am in my I am in my family. I 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:02.040 didn't know that anyone outside my family was everyone's talk everyone. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.240 I see Hayes opening this confection, and I go, this 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.040 reminds me of Mary and her famous pie baking. How 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.680 is making a feel like baking a pie? 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.560 Oh? Wait? What do we have? There's four of them? 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:13.960 They all say Happy birthday, Hayes. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.559 You know cupcakes? 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.919 Do their cupcakes? Do you want to do? You want 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.600 to pick one out and we'll ship it over to you? 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.360 Not really okay by happy Birthday? You only have four? 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:32.560 I figure you should enjoy them. That and the I'm 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.920 feeling like a little depression about a home ind decade, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.360 even though you're trying to make it sound all dressed. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.640 Wait and see, wait and see, wait and see. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.320 On this podcast in this decade, Mary, I can't wait 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.720 to Really, I. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:56.920 Think it's really appropriate to talk to me about, you know, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.880 being depressed about turning forward. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.000 I needed you to hear hear this. Not that I'm depressed. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.400 I'm not. I needed you to hear that. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.520 This is when I enter my podcasting prime. And like 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.880 I said, I knew that people like you would say, oh, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:13.600 he's depressed. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:14.720 Oh he can't do it. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.360 Everyone everyone is just assuming, Oh he's going to completely 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.520 fall apart on the air and the show is just 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.920 going to disintegrate. But Hayes is and I and I 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.880 quote forty floorty and thriving. 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:36.360 Got it, he's forty fan and five are you? And five? 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:42.840 Pardon my lack of knowledge about your personal life? Have 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.400 do you have a love? 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.000 I do have a I do have a podcasting. It's 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.039 right here. Her name's Mike. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:57.599 Yeah, little gal named Mike are a phone? 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.760 You might be so, is that this is the very 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.720 year you might meet an actual human love, you know, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:06.640 beyond your mic? 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.240 You might Does that happen? Because I am told that 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.320 it does not once you've actually connected to the mic 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.760 in this way it did for you. Huh. So you 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:18.760 got the last. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.520 The last, But I didn't have that Mike, you know, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:28.039 to to rival it. But yeah, yeah I did. I 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.279 did fall in love at age forty. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.120 I hope they. I hope they're into a throutle because 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.359 whoever shows up, they're. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.080 They're not replacing the figure out to work with the 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:44.680 two as Mary talk about when you became such a 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:49.039 big fan of Hollywood handbooks, what is it that made 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.919 you want to do the podcast so much? 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.800 Let's see and please take your time. I hate I 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:03.799 hate when people just answer the question and show. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:11.640 I guess it was diversifying from just doing stuff on 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:17.400 We're Here to help with Jake Johnson feeling and feeling 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.200 like maybe a second podcast or. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.760 Show that shows a little nasty, little mean spirit. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.840 I think I think I was more the mean spirited 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.120 one because I did call them up to complain about 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.679 one of their shows, and so then Jake said, please 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.640 don't waste these gems with just me on the phone. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.760 Let's put it on the air. So we did. 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.719 You called him to complain about an episode that he 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.279 had done that you were listening to recreationally. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:52.479 Yes, yes, I didn't have to do it, although it 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.680 was around the same time we were starting to do 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.000 a little press for The Dink and probably my vanity 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:05.680 wonder if he would mention our movie. Yes, yes, yeah, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.840 but we did. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.800 We did make a film together, and let's get to that, 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.240 I guess, and I don't really use this as like 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:18.120 a promotional platform for my stuff usually, but we did 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.440 make a film together. And I was curious because you 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.440 have been in the business and you've you know, achieved 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:29.080 some of the highest heights you can Was it kind 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.120 of crazy to watch me do my thing out there? 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.200 It was? Yeah, it wasn't. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.560 That's another reason why I wanted to come on this show, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.120 because I thought, maybe I'll get a little bit more 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.960 of that. Sean. You know, I'll just come my way. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.800 You've done a lot of projects, but you hadn't seen 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.520 anything like his quite like well, quite like that before. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.120 And no, and it must make you wonder what's going 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.680 on with his co host as well? 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.360 Huh? If that you got, it opens up that question. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:01.560 There's another one? 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.320 I thought, Is there another one? Could lightning strike twice? 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:06.840 I did? 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:11.920 I thought that was important. And and Sean, now are 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.760 we speaking about your writing or your acting or. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.720 Just well I was going to say, was it strange 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.880 at all that I wasn't to you? I know how 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.720 I felt about it. Was it strange to you that 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.200 I wasn't in front of the camera more. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.600 I wondered why you weren't it. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.160 Was missing a little bit. Maybe on the next one, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.320 we gotta we gotta sort that out. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.760 Was that Ben Stiller's choice. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:41.080 Because you're all it's it's it's Sean's voice, right, It's 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:46.120 his name on the literally every single fucking word. So 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.800 the answer is he was on camera, you were him, and. 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.840 Oh we're bonded in that way. Mm hmmm. And Patton 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.760 was him and Jake was him. Yeah, you have become me. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.400 I appreciate name in the cast in case I forgot 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:07.640 one of them. But it's still a little early, unless unless. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.520 You air this little early to do press. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.600 Sometime in July, it's a little early to do press. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.079 So about that, Mary, like you were saying, you did 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.800 a little press with Jake, it wasn't working. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:24.840 The thinking is that Sean, I didn't think I think you. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.480 I think I think I heard you say pretty obvious 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:29.480 it wasn't working. 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.440 We gave it a try. The Mary Jake combo. 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.360 I feel like that's a little bit of a competition 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:43.040 from you, if I may, toward Jake, because it actually 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.000 worked really really well. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:53.880 I that's so interesting, right, Yeah, that's literally not what 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:54.560 you said. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.160 No, I said, I had a problem with something that 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:05.040 he did on his podcast. Okay, And because he's, you know, 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.840 very confident as a human being, he said, come on, 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.520 just come on an air, right on the air and 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:12.880 talk about it, and so we did. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:17.520 He did not find complaining about his podcast to be 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:23.120 an attribute that he's looking for in someone that he's 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:29.120 going on a whole press tour with. That's that's that's family, 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.400 that's a big investment, you know what I mean. Complaining 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.640 about a podcast that that's not going to work for 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:40.000 the long haul. So we mix and match a little bit. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:44.680 Maybe maybe Sean jumps in the marriage chair mm hmmm, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.840 does a little press for the movie, Mary does press 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.679 for this podcast. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.920 And if we're doing that and it's all promoting the industry, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.400 I can't help. But wonder is that going to work? 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.320 Me and Jake we have no rapport. But if you 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.240 were in the Jake chair, I. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.360 Could be in there as someone who would actually be 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.719 objective m because I see, like when you they had 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.840 me look at the press, and I'm like they are 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:12.600 in the movie. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.360 It's hard to trust someone sometimes when they're talking about 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.400 how great the movie is and they're in the movie. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.400 But you got Haze out there saying how how great 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:22.720 it was on sort or whatever. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.240 I actually think, you know, or I will actually be objective. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.640 I would never ever betray the audience by saying something 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.520 that I didn't fully commit to. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:37.200 I know, And right before we began this podcast, you 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.720 did tell me how great you thought the movie was, 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.880 that you'd seen it and you thought it was really 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.440 really great, And I said, are we rolling now? 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.520 I will be watching it again. He's got a double check. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.600 The idea that I would never watch it once one 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.560 time kind of a long time ago. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:02.040 The world has changed a bit since then, Mary and 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.120 the terrah. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:10.760 Of of the air that we breathe. It impacts how 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.920 we perceive culture. I gotta see how the movie holds up. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:14.840 Mm hmm. 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.559 Do you think you're just saying that because you're older now? 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.720 Maybe it's the forty talking, But you know what, that's 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:22.640 the forty talking. 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.360 Maybe everyone else in the world is a little older 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.959 too since I. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:27.640 Saw the movie. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.360 Yeah, not by like a whole decade, you know, not. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.800 Like big milestone. Yeah not. Everyone's hitting one of. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.400 Those, right, So I guess it's not good press to 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:44.040 say that seeing the dink made me age an entire decade, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.679 while everyone else. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.440 Stayed sort of youthful aging on the normal time. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.840 So this is maybe an example of what Jake was 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.360 talking about when he said, tell it to let her 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.040 down easy. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.520 She is no longer doing press on this movie. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.079 You figure out who doesn't wait, which I wanted to 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:08.600 I understand if you're busy. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.840 He called you and said that to you. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.679 He told you, he told us, he said a lot 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.079 of things. He keeps calling. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.040 Sean, and I've talked to you multiple times in the 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:23.240 last a few weeks. I even played pickleball with you once. Yeah, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.000 and you never mentioned you never told me that I'm 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:27.120 not doing press visial. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.040 It didn't come up. It didn't come up, you know 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:29.480 what I mean. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.200 Because they were saying this score, and we're saying this 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:37.000 is it, this is you know, good shot, a memorable points, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.120 any points that you remember from the game, any funny things. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.800 He said, Well, I'm having trouble remembering anything right now. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.600 This does come It's a pretty big shock to me. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.360 I sort of say, the month of July to be 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:58.080 doing the press about the movie. Yeah, like Apple TV 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.040 did say, I hope you're free for July. 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:07.080 Well, I am, but now, yeah, you've been thinking of 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.040 picking up I could recommend. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.400 One win it. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.400 I ain't gonna be I was not going to be 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.560 big ball because that's gonna be a little sad now. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.160 And you'll have to play with because Sean will be 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:20.760 doing well. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.080 I'm going to be doing all the press Jake and 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.800 Hayes is going to be doing the press with me, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.160 and I don't know what Jake's going to be doing either. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.960 So maybe that's what you meant when you thought I 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:36.800 was depressed, Mary, because he's doing all Maybe what you 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.200 were picking up on is that I'm doing every last 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.880 bite of depress. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.800 Oh man, ah, now. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.600 She get it. I can tell you really enjoyed. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.560 See what that Mike is your love? Man, I can 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.400 see what that Mike is your love? 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.359 Okay, Well to get into it sometimes. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.000 But uh was climbing in the same bed at the 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.000 end of the day, me and Mike. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:15.240 Mary, what uh. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:19.440 When did you start looking this podcast together? Did you 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.160 say twenty four hours? 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:22.240 Twenty four hours? 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:27.400 Call me yeah and said, but I have watched three today? 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.080 Well I was three. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.200 I mean I only knew about one, but I was 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:33.520 promised I was promised. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:34.800 Actually a fun fact. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.600 Yeah. So one of them was Bill Macy, who, let's 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.640 be honest, is pretty amazing. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.560 He's begging me. I didn't see it. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.400 I'll take your word for it that he was amazing. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.280 I didn't get that. 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:50.840 Bill. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.640 I thought, in spite of everything, that guy kept that 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:02.800 thing going and it was fascinating. He was fascinating to me. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.200 That record, Well, I couldn't see I couldn't see any cuts. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.360 There's no cuts the visible Wow. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:09.120 Yeah no. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:10.000 The editor. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.560 Well, well, here's my fun you have a fun fact 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.760 about him. All the ones I have are brutal. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:27.160 Well, my fun fact is that we both have been 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.760 on Doctor Henry Lewis Gates show Finding Your Root. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.440 That's to me that Skip. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.480 Skip Gates. It is Skip. I didn't realize you guys 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:37.480 were close. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.840 But so Doctor. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.080 So at the end of the thing, they look to 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.400 see if you have anybody that's been on their show 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:54.640 that actually you are related to. And I am a 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.800 cousin of Bill Macy's and he is a cousin of mine, 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:07.359 and we share a fascinating person. Many fought like five 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:12.160 or six generations back. Grandfather you know, great, great, great 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:19.320 great great whatever that is who he came to America 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:28.439 from Amsterdam and he enlisted in the army during the 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:33.280 French and Indian War, and he was so badly behaved, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:40.639 such a drunk and a womanizer that officials in the 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.960 army wrote a letter that was that they showed me 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:48.520 to his commanding officer saying, if you don't get Peter 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.959 Steinbergen under control, not only is he going to get 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.960 kicked out of the army, but you are too. And 0:17:56.080 --> 0:18:00.920 his commanding officer that this was sent to was George Washington. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:03.600 Wow, so my. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:09.639 Many greats back grandfather could have changed human history. And 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:15.440 Bill Macy is also connected to that guy. And then 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:22.080 he kind of they sent him out to you know, 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:29.000 what was then known as Indian Territory and thought maybe 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.879 he'll be fine out there. He wasn't. He got in 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:37.000 trouble out there. Then they kicked him out, basically of 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:42.119 the army. So he found a very wealthy widow and 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.520 married her and opened like an inn in a tavern 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.000 and had children of which I'm a descendant. And then 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.120 when he was fifty five years old, he went back 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:01.520 to fight in the Revolutionary War with George Washington, who 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:06.080 just couldn't get enough of him, and he actually did 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.320 some really heroic things at the age of fifty five, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.040 which was a very old man at that time. 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.119 Mary, Mary, So, Mary, I'm a very important, very important 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:16.240 question about this. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:22.840 Yeah, yeah, does lin Manuel Miranda know about this? I mean, 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:23.960 has he been made aware? 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:30.000 No, you're waiting for your half, So I do own 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:31.919 the rights. I on the rights. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:37.800 Yeah, any stem Virgin the musical Mary famously not a 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.800 virgin steering you up? 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:45.800 Yes of Virgin and party there or yeah there after 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:50.399 binging the Virgin. M I'm fifty five, but I'm still 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:51.959 alive and how I thrive. 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.920 It's old for now, but later, Wow, you're gonna think 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.840 it's not that bad. Hayes is forty and he's florty. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.160 I mean, the whole thing is just. 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.080 Flowing out of me. And I'm not even lind Man. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:05.280 Well. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.399 I mean, I haven't read the Linn Manual yet. You know, 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.080 I'm just a guy. 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.040 So I think maybe you should write as Sean, because 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:14.880 I don't know if you have much else to do? 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.840 Mike, did I have much else to do? Interesting? Interesting 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.120 way to free it? 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.280 I know I gave you he. 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.639 Has an entire month has to do in July. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.080 I have a ton of appearances, and I gotta have 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.080 a lot to explain before that one why I'm in 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:35.920 Mary's chair. 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.440 One issue I see with doing this as a musical, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.440 something like I don't know if you know you know 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:44.400 we're friends with Skip. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.240 I don't know if you know this about his show. 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.080 That entire thing he didn't. 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.240 Know till till today. It was your idea. 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.000 No, the entire thing is made up. 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.040 Every single thing you were saying, like he's just like riffing. 0:20:58.240 --> 0:20:59.280 He's like he has. 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:03.120 A bunch of photos, have like old people, like letters, 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.800 people from the old letters and stuff. But like it's 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.840 sort of a slow burn, like ancestral punk, and so 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.920 it's he waits a while to kind of do the reveal, 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.000 but and Bill's challenge and Bill is in on it. 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:25.359 Bill picked you Actually, I gotta get married. She's in 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:26.320 my crosshairs. 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.320 And do you think does Harvard also know about it? 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:35.440 Like Harvard Harvard Harvard Harvard is like. 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.800 A great sense of humor and the lampoon. 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:42.480 Yeah, yeah, it's like funny and it's like everyone's making money. 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.879 Insane sense of humor and it's crazy and yes again 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.240 wealth and just like and and fun and quite frankly, 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:52.480 obviously I'm a huge fan. 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:53.320 I love you. 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.720 The target that they're picking is somebody often who could 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.400 stand to be like take it down a peg? 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:02.880 You know what I mean? 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:03.359 Really? 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.000 And when did what? What do you think I did 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.359 that made people feel like I needed to be taken down? 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.200 And well Bell was talking, yeah, go ahead, Yeah. 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.000 I don't know if this is related, Like he was 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:19.040 coming in here talking about like he was like, god, 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:20.840 I could I could really use a break. I just 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:25.640 found out how someone called cousin bird braid in my family, 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:29.400 and I wonder if that was you? 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.200 Was he called? Do you think that was Mary? He 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:32.600 was calling cousin bird braid? 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.240 But was that Well I'm confused by this, if I 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:41.560 can be honest, because he was saying that was about Mary. 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.480 But we're saying that it was a prank, which is 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.440 true that he hit orchestra. 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.840 Yeah, that's where I like, was he so deep in character? 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:50.560 I think he was. 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.120