WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 5 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:09.880 It's Thursday, March five. This is jack Bars Happy Hour, 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.640 and now a guy who insists on taking care of 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:22.800 his own chicken, j Peece sh Rick and my own 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:28.160 mentals and my own health and my own chicken. Indeed, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.840 welcome in. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour. My name is 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.960 J P. Shadrick. His name is Jeff Lockman. That was 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:40.159 Joe Fortunado. Glad you're along with us today. The off 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.919 season we have we have a little beasts reference there 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.920 that we do. That's the chicken thing. And we're gonna 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:50.879 get to him a little later, and he's going to 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:55.680 be um presenting in front of a unique audience. Let's 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.760 say there's a little controversy with that. It'll be interesting. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.600 I think I like to be there for it. Um, 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.600 it's not bad advice. Protect your saying something that's wrong. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.720 I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.240 give it. I don't want to give it away. Appreciate. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.200 I don't want to give it away. Because it's a 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.200 pretty interesting story about beast mode Marshawn Lynch recently and 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.560 also a college institution. Yes, yes, protect your chick to it, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.759 protect your chicken. Yes, here's what's coming up on the 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:30.319 program today, A J Boyer traded not official until the 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.520 opening of the league year in March eighteenth. Is the date. Well, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.520 both teams are talking about. It's about as ficial as 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.920 you can get. It is correct, yes, unique and Coqway 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.680 wants out. We'll get into the developments this week Quarterback Talk. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.520 Chad Johnson joins us in studio not Ocho Sinko, the 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.400 VP of sales and Service for the Jaguars. Chad Johnson 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.640 joining us to discuss the summertime concert coming up at 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.120 t i A bank Field featuring def Leppard and others. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.400 And we'll go around the National Football League as well, 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.400 So I'll have to get to Let's start off with 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.000 the Adam Schefter tweet Tuesday afternoon, the Jagson the Broncos 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.600 agreed to a trade that will take effect officially at 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.280 the start of the league year. A j Boyer headed 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.400 to Denver for a fourth round pick. So about thirteen 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.320 million dollars worth of salary is off the books now 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.680 for the Jaguars as well. What do you make of 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.240 this trade overall? Is it a good one? It is? 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.160 Is it enough for the Jags or you just hey, 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.799 you got your the salary off the books, you get 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.799 a draft pick to go with it, and you move forward. Well, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.760 first off, I think the world a J boy as 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.120 a person. I think he's uh, he's a high class 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:45.120 individual quality guy and uh watching him play, really his 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.840 study habits are phenomenal. I mean literally, this guy is 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.799 a student of the game. You can tell that the 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.920 way he plays the game, the way he anticipates things. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:03:00.760 But is he still a top end cornerback. That's a 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.240 great question, and I think I think because of the 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.080 a lot of things that have been going bad for 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:12.960 this franchise or or perceived as being bad. A bad season. Uh, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:17.440 the Jail and Ramsey trade two games in London, and 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.120 that for a lot of people, the trade of a 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.799 J boy A kind of goes onto that that pile 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:28.400 or the heap of pile that people look at. Another 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.080 bad job by the organism. Again add it to the list. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.480 I get it, because I mean, he's your best corner 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:40.320 right now. But if you if you evaluate it on 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.680 its own, is a J Boyer worth what is the 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.800 thirteen million? Is he worth thirteen million a year? If 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.840 you evaluate his performance last year and the year before, 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.880 his play does not equal that level of pay. That's 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.400 a that's a fact that cannot be argued. You look 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.160 at all the different scouting services that ranked players in 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.320 the National Football League, you will evaluate the speed that 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:12.800 a j has displayed. He's just not there. And but 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.480 the reality is he's your best corner. That also means 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.960 that you've got some work to do to fill that spot, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.760 and also means that he's he's now I think now 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.640 the secondary from seventeen it's all gone. He's all gone. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.240 All the guys if you count the nickel corner Aaron 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.560 Colvin as well, all five of those guys are now 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.320 out of here. He was the last man standing from 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.960 the f C Championship game. So and then the reality 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.880 is that did this team needs to find cap space 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:47.240 and no question was posed to gentlemanager Dave Caldwell about 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.120 getting this team back under the cap and and his 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.680 response was kind of casual that you know, he you know, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.560 we can do that. It's it's not it's not that hard. Well, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.520 I mean, look to get there, things like this have 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.200 to happen. You know, you have to let go of 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.640 good players. Now the reality is here and that he's 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.680 a good player, but the level of pay doesn't equal 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.719 the level of player that he has been playing at. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.560 And that's the cost of doing business and free agency too. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.560 I mean, you're gonna pay a big number for a 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.320 guy and then in reality, two or three years later, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.440 if the level of play is not there, you here's 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.920 the reality. Here's the reality. The contract is still fine 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.120 if a j boy is still playing at the level 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.320 of that he was at. Absolutely it's a great number 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.159 because he was a top five corner in the league, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.720 top six corner in the league. Hasn't he hasn't been 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.400 first team, hasn't been there since. So what's happened from 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.560 seventeen and now? I don't know? Okay, but the but 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.800 the productivity hasn't hasn't been in the same neighborhood of 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.159 that in sen So, but it's still difficult and that 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.280 you're still you got to replace your best corner. So 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.080 how do you do that? I mean a couple different ways. One, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.360 you can pay somebody more commensurate with what their talent 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.800 or their ability is in free agency, number one, number 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.359 two draft, and I think that that's gonna be. I 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.720 know that there's two guys, ones at Florida and ones 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.880 at Ohio State, they're highly touted corners and uh. In 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.560 the draft process, it's still early time time out. Okay, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.880 so you're gonna draft a guy because you're drafting, you're 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.240 probably gonna draft a linebacker. At some point. It's gonna 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.880 have to play right, You're gonna have to draft a 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:38.880 defensive lineman. J understand rookies. I understand rookies on defense. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.000 Next year you might have a lot Yeah, you might 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.040 have a lot of reality that's gonna do. You're gonna 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.760 have a young team. You lose a bunch of games there. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.920 There there are a lot of holes with this football 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.200 team to fill. And are you going to fill them 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.039 all with rookies? No? Are you gonna fill them with 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.160 rookies and draft picks that eventually will be taken over. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.000 And in the meantime, I have stopcap veterans in place. Yes, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:07.920 And in a lot of ways, this franchise, I don't 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.800 want to say it's in rebuild mode, but if you, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.040 if you, if you look at where they're gonna be at, 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.000 possibly in a couple of weeks, once they get to 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.920 this to the point of salary cap, this is somewhat 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.600 of a rebuild mode that I mean, I don't I 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.720 don't see what they Is it a rebuild or is 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.680 a retool? I mean, I mean, I look semantics, but 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.040 the reality is that this this team has to do 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.040 a lot of retooling. But there's a lot of teams 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.480 in the National Football League that have to do that. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.160 This team tried to stay status quo from seventeen in 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.800 the eighteen it didn't work. This team tried to do 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.920 some a few things different but not so much defensively 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.880 from from eighteen to nineteen to keep everything in place. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:55.840 Guess what didn't work? It didn't work, so um so 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.960 doing something different. I don't want to say it's it's 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.160 it's a complete rebuild. It I mean sometimes things that 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.160 ever needed to be done. And the reality is that 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.360 this team has cap issues. What kind of corner do 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:11.520 you need? Though, considering the division that you've it's really good. Okay, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.520 what does that mean? Especially in this division when you 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.440 have some top in corners. I don't care what division 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.200 you're in. Corner the type of corner that you want 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.760 doesn't change. You know that the way that with the 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.640 speed of like t Y Hilton, and it doesn't matter. 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:31.200 Every division has speed. Every division has speedy. Every everybody's 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.960 got speed. Hopkins is not that fast. I mean, that's 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.440 that's probably a little bit of a misnomer. DeAndre Hopkins 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:42.360 is not a not a elite speed guy, deep guy. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.280 I mean that's I mean, look at his average yards 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.120 per catch over the last couple of years. I don't 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:47.800 want to say he's a possession guy, but I mean 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.480 his numbers don't tell you that he's a deep guy. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.920 Breaking News Jeff Logman says DeAndre Hopkins is a possession guy. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.120 I'm not saying he's a possession guy either. I'm saying 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.040 I'm saying if you look, if you look at the 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.559 numbers and plose numbers up DeAndre, okay, and then we'll 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.120 we'll make a case for Yeah, you could probably say 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.680 that he is more of a possession receiver. But the 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.440 type of corner that you want doesn't matter where you're 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.360 at in the National Football League. You want a corner 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.760 that can cover somebody by themselves, and you can have 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.560 the utmost confidence that that player can cover him. And 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.360 I don't want to say shut him out because I mean, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.160 there's very few corners in the league that can do that. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:30.719 Jalen was one of those guys. But Jillen, who was 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.240 a nightmare. What do you wanted to be one of 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.800 those guys? But when when he was on, now, Jalen 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.520 can shut down some of the best of the best. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.960 But then also Jalen could screw up and have a 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.040 game that he will give up a lot of plays 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.760 and have some mental errors to where he was giving 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.600 up big play after big play. So it's not like 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.440 Jalen was without fault alright, So we'll come back to that, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.480 and we'll come back around to this. We gotta get 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.520 got quizzle. We'll come back around to the DeAndre Hopkins 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.640 because I think we're onto something with DeAndre. I think 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:05.040 we're onto something about that. Oh hell, I'm good to 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.200 be honest. Something. But where are we going within Gockway? 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.080 Oh well, let's start off earlier this offseason of course, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.680 when when g M Dave called Well called the unique 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.200 Gockway situation priority number one, and last week at the 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.960 combine called Wells asked about the process of getting him 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:23.679 signed or tagged. I think the best thing for us 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.520 to do as an organization is when we have news 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.480 for you guys on that is, to let you guys 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.320 know when we have news on it. Um, there's still 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.480 a process that needs to be played. But I think 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.360 you guys know how we feel about him, and um, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.439 we want him here. We're gonna try to get him 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.960 here and keep him here, um one way or another. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.080 This was late last week in Indianapolis. And then Monday morning, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.400 everyone wakes up to a unique and Gockway tweet saying 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.679 that he no longer had interest in being in Jacksonville, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.280 no interest in signing a long term contract here. Duvo, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.520 I love you and I gave you guys everything I 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.520 got him. Thankful for the journey and look forward to 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:03.880 continue in my career else where ninety one saying goodbye. Well, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.160 he's not saying goodbye because the Jaguars still have the 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.600 franchise tag available to place on him. And then which 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.720 day which look, Dave Carli said one way or another 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.319 when he's talking about keeping that which one way or 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.920 another means with an extension or with the tag. But 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.200 or where I'm kind of a miss on this whole 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.320 situation is that as Um as a free agent, first 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.120 of all, in Gowkway should never want to close the 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.000 door on on any on any avenue that maybe open 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.120 to him in free agency, whether it be that his 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.640 existing team or potential teams that that are out there, whatever, 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.880 because look, the more and the more people that want you, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.600 the more your price goes up. So you don't want 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.000 to shut the door on the team that you're with. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:55.360 So what happened, I mean, what what went wrong? Was Coughlin? 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.920 I mean, do we want to blame this one Coughlin too? 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:02.360 He's been gone since December? Um, because I mean that's 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.320 supposedly there was some issues with Coughlin and contracts with 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.760 and go way before with other people and Tom Coughlin 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.640 is not around. So um my point is where my 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:20.080 question is because I know yahn uh y'han's stand up 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:27.560 guy now, but if you if you say something wrong 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.680 to yn, he's done with you. He'll be done with 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.880 you in a minute. And he doesn't forget. No, he's 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.800 like an elephant. That's right, He's gonna remember. But what 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.720 what happened? I mean, was there something said? Was there 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.920 something done? And look, I understand that negotiations are business 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.080 and sometimes things get said that can be perceived or 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.200 taken in the wrong way. Maybe maybe that was it. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:58.400 I don't know, but boy, I mean that's first of all, 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:03.840 he's a marvelous player. He he is one of the 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:08.160 best young pass rushers in the game. You can debate 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.040 what his level of pay should be. Should it be 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.600 eighteen million or twenty two million. You can have that 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.719 debate and go round and round and round, like we've 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.960 had that debate. But yes, that's been the debate. But 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.360 the I think the issue here is that you're talking 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.840 about a guy who he's doing everything by the book. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.920 He's entitled to do anything that he wants to do. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:35.840 He played under a contract that was not fair to 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.520 his talent level and his production over the last couple 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.800 of years because that's the rules of the National Football League, 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.920 and now he's entitled to to test the market. The 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.720 team's entitled to apply the franchise tag. So this is 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:56.840 where unfortunately, passion, the passion that everybody has for the sport, 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.920 doesn't mix with the business eye of the sport. And 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.720 that's just the reality of it and what's gonna happen. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.000 What's the end result. Look, the reality is that you 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.320 never want to have players that don't want to be 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.600 with you. That's a fact. I mean, you do you 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.360 want to have a player who's And I'm not saying 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.880 he's a malcontent, but if but if somebody's not happy, 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.000 that's kind of a term. Put it out on social 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:27.480 media that he doesn't want to be Do you want 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.160 to do you want to tag somebody? And what? What 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.520 would he how was his reaction to that be? First 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.960 of all, he wouldn't be happy that he's been tagged, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.640 and he wouldn't be happy that it doesn't have a 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.760 long term deal. Do you want to have that in 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.320 your locker room? Do you want to have that on 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.680 your team? And he's a great player, is it worth 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.640 having that to have the productivity? And what would the 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:55.000 productivity be the same? What the well? Because he's always 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.160 don't don't don't question the production with you on because 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.600 I can tell you one thing. If there was ever 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.240 a year for him that did he could have wanted 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.840 to protect himself to get the free agency, it was 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.280 this past year. And even in the last couple of 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.840 games he's thrown himself around, which I think I highlighted 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.680 that in in a film room segment at some point 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:13.840 in the end of the year last year, and I 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.040 was like, wow, I got more even more respect for him. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.880 God way, because here's a guy that, if he gets hurt, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:28.080 could cost himself sixty seventy million and guaranteed money. So 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.560 if if he played the game a little bit cautious, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.720 I would have understood. But he didn't play the game cautiously. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.640 He threw him but his body around like like you 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.720 want your football players to do like you you want 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.640 the guys on your team to do so uh and 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.560 then look there the debate will always go on, is 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:50.120 he worth twenty two million? And and um, look I 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.360 don't know the answer to that. I mean, is he 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.600 worth Could he be worth twenty two million? Sure? Has 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.200 he been in a double digit sack guy consistently? No? 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.720 Is he great against the run? No? Does he make 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.480 plays against the run sometimes yes? Can he be a 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.400 liability against the run at times? Yes? Do you pay 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.880 somebody that can be a liability against the run? But 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.680 yet's a good pass rush your twenty two million? It 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:19.240 happens on your defense, It happens. It happens because of 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.040 the premium that's put on on the ability of a 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:26.160 player to brush the passer. So but put it. But 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:31.560 it goes into that category of here's another thing that's 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.640 not going well. Added to the list. You know that 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.440 that you want and I think as as fans and 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.040 looking as supporter as the team, you want to see 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.760 some things that are happening that you go, that's what 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:49.280 we need. That's good, that's good. Yes, And when it happens, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:54.920 it builds confidence. And right now you haven't gotten to 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.480 the point where those things can happen yet, because look, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.920 there's still some things probably coming. I wouldn't be shocked 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.199 by that at all from from a cap standpoint, you know, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.640 because if you're gonna be a player in free agency, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.040 and also the tag of and Gockway is gonna eat 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.240 some of that cap room up, you know, there's a 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.480 lot of things still to happen, and you just you want, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.440 you want the things that are on the bad side 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.200 of the ledger to stop and that the good side 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.280 to start happening. And obviously the good side can't start 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.600 to happen until you get the free agency and and 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.119 for this team, a lot of the good things are 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.040 gonna be happening in the draft with the bevy of 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.159 picks that they have. And let me say this for 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.520 the for the boy than did I never really commented 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.000 on that a fourth round pick for a guy that 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.600 you probably were gonna have to cut. It's a it's 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.600 that's pretty good. You know that. I get the Jaguars, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.520 and Dave called all credit the jail and Ramsey for 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.280 him to get to get two ones and a four 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:55.160 for that, I mean, I thought he fleeced the Rams 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.960 and to get a fourth from the Denver Broncos, Look, 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.760 that's a great job because in theory, you're gonna let 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.200 him go anyway. You're talking about a guy's probably gonna 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.840 get cut anyway, and so you end up getting a 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.240 fourth form and a lot of people say, oh, you know, 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.160 you would have got a compensatory pick. You don't get 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:15.560 compensatory picks that you cut together. Okay, So so look, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.560 there's criticism out there on Caldwell, but look, don't criticize 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.080 him as far as the draft picks that he's been 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.320 able to get with these two trades specifically, because I 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.200 think he's done a pretty good job with East two. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.320 And look, you never want to trade good players away, 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.520 but for for the players that you traded away, what 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.800 you got, I think I think the price that has 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.240 been received has been very good. Let's come back. Pete 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.280 Prisco is at it again. 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