1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: It's Thursday, March five. This is jack Bars Happy Hour, 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: and now a guy who insists on taking care of 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: his own chicken, j Peece sh Rick and my own 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: mentals and my own health and my own chicken. Indeed, 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: welcome in. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour. My name is 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick. His name is Jeff Lockman. That was 7 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado. Glad you're along with us today. The off 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: season we have we have a little beasts reference there 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: that we do. That's the chicken thing. And we're gonna 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: get to him a little later, and he's going to 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: be um presenting in front of a unique audience. Let's 12 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: say there's a little controversy with that. It'll be interesting. 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I think I like to be there for it. Um, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: it's not bad advice. Protect your saying something that's wrong. 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: give it. I don't want to give it away. Appreciate. 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away. Because it's a 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: pretty interesting story about beast mode Marshawn Lynch recently and 19 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: also a college institution. Yes, yes, protect your chick to it, 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: protect your chicken. Yes, here's what's coming up on the 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: program today, A J Boyer traded not official until the 22 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: opening of the league year in March eighteenth. Is the date. Well, 23 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: both teams are talking about. It's about as ficial as 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: you can get. It is correct, yes, unique and Coqway 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: wants out. We'll get into the developments this week Quarterback Talk. 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: Chad Johnson joins us in studio not Ocho Sinko, the 27 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: VP of sales and Service for the Jaguars. Chad Johnson 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: joining us to discuss the summertime concert coming up at 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: t i A bank Field featuring def Leppard and others. 30 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: And we'll go around the National Football League as well, 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: So I'll have to get to Let's start off with 32 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: the Adam Schefter tweet Tuesday afternoon, the Jagson the Broncos 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: agreed to a trade that will take effect officially at 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: the start of the league year. A j Boyer headed 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: to Denver for a fourth round pick. So about thirteen 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: million dollars worth of salary is off the books now 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars as well. What do you make of 38 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: this trade overall? Is it a good one? It is? 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Is it enough for the Jags or you just hey, 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: you got your the salary off the books, you get 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: a draft pick to go with it, and you move forward. Well, 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: first off, I think the world a J boy as 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: a person. I think he's uh, he's a high class 44 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: individual quality guy and uh watching him play, really his 45 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: study habits are phenomenal. I mean literally, this guy is 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: a student of the game. You can tell that the 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: way he plays the game, the way he anticipates things. 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: But is he still a top end cornerback. That's a 49 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: great question, and I think I think because of the 50 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things that have been going bad for 51 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: this franchise or or perceived as being bad. A bad season. Uh, 52 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: the Jail and Ramsey trade two games in London, and 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: that for a lot of people, the trade of a 54 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: J boy A kind of goes onto that that pile 55 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: or the heap of pile that people look at. Another 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: bad job by the organism. Again add it to the list. 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: I get it, because I mean, he's your best corner 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: right now. But if you if you evaluate it on 59 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: its own, is a J Boyer worth what is the 60 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: thirteen million? Is he worth thirteen million a year? If 61 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: you evaluate his performance last year and the year before, 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: his play does not equal that level of pay. That's 63 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: a that's a fact that cannot be argued. You look 64 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: at all the different scouting services that ranked players in 65 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: the National Football League, you will evaluate the speed that 66 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: a j has displayed. He's just not there. And but 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: the reality is he's your best corner. That also means 68 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: that you've got some work to do to fill that spot, 69 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: and also means that he's he's now I think now 70 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: the secondary from seventeen it's all gone. He's all gone. 71 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: All the guys if you count the nickel corner Aaron 72 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Colvin as well, all five of those guys are now 73 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: out of here. He was the last man standing from 74 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the f C Championship game. So and then the reality 75 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: is that did this team needs to find cap space 76 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: and no question was posed to gentlemanager Dave Caldwell about 77 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: getting this team back under the cap and and his 78 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: response was kind of casual that you know, he you know, 79 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: we can do that. It's it's not it's not that hard. Well, 80 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look to get there, things like this have 81 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: to happen. You know, you have to let go of 82 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: good players. Now the reality is here and that he's 83 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: a good player, but the level of pay doesn't equal 84 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: the level of player that he has been playing at. 85 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: And that's the cost of doing business and free agency too. 86 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna pay a big number for a 87 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: guy and then in reality, two or three years later, 88 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: if the level of play is not there, you here's 89 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: the reality. Here's the reality. The contract is still fine 90 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: if a j boy is still playing at the level 91 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: of that he was at. Absolutely it's a great number 92 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: because he was a top five corner in the league, 93 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: top six corner in the league. Hasn't he hasn't been 94 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: first team, hasn't been there since. So what's happened from 95 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: seventeen and now? I don't know? Okay, but the but 96 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: the productivity hasn't hasn't been in the same neighborhood of 97 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: that in sen So, but it's still difficult and that 98 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: you're still you got to replace your best corner. So 99 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: how do you do that? I mean a couple different ways. One, 100 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: you can pay somebody more commensurate with what their talent 101 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: or their ability is in free agency, number one, number 102 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: two draft, and I think that that's gonna be. I 103 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: know that there's two guys, ones at Florida and ones 104 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: at Ohio State, they're highly touted corners and uh. In 105 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: the draft process, it's still early time time out. Okay, 106 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: so you're gonna draft a guy because you're drafting, you're 107 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna draft a linebacker. At some point. It's gonna 108 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: have to play right, You're gonna have to draft a 109 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. J understand rookies. I understand rookies on defense. 110 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: Next year you might have a lot Yeah, you might 111 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of reality that's gonna do. You're gonna 112 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: have a young team. You lose a bunch of games there. 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: There there are a lot of holes with this football 114 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: team to fill. And are you going to fill them 115 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: all with rookies? No? Are you gonna fill them with 116 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: rookies and draft picks that eventually will be taken over. 117 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, I have stopcap veterans in place. Yes, 118 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: And in a lot of ways, this franchise, I don't 119 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: want to say it's in rebuild mode, but if you, 120 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: if you, if you look at where they're gonna be at, 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: possibly in a couple of weeks, once they get to 122 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: this to the point of salary cap, this is somewhat 123 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: of a rebuild mode that I mean, I don't I 124 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: don't see what they Is it a rebuild or is 125 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: a retool? I mean, I mean, I look semantics, but 126 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: the reality is that this this team has to do 127 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of retooling. But there's a lot of teams 128 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: in the National Football League that have to do that. 129 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: This team tried to stay status quo from seventeen in 130 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: the eighteen it didn't work. This team tried to do 131 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: some a few things different but not so much defensively 132 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: from from eighteen to nineteen to keep everything in place. 133 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Guess what didn't work? It didn't work, so um so 134 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: doing something different. I don't want to say it's it's 135 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: it's a complete rebuild. It I mean sometimes things that 136 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: ever needed to be done. And the reality is that 137 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: this team has cap issues. What kind of corner do 138 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: you need? Though, considering the division that you've it's really good. Okay, 139 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Especially in this division when you 140 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: have some top in corners. I don't care what division 141 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: you're in. Corner the type of corner that you want 142 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: doesn't change. You know that the way that with the 143 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: speed of like t Y Hilton, and it doesn't matter. 144 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Every division has speed. Every division has speedy. Every everybody's 145 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: got speed. Hopkins is not that fast. I mean, that's 146 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: that's probably a little bit of a misnomer. DeAndre Hopkins 147 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: is not a not a elite speed guy, deep guy. 148 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, look at his average yards 149 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: per catch over the last couple of years. I don't 150 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: want to say he's a possession guy, but I mean 151 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: his numbers don't tell you that he's a deep guy. 152 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Breaking News Jeff Logman says DeAndre Hopkins is a possession guy. 153 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a possession guy either. I'm saying 154 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying if you look, if you look at the 155 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: numbers and plose numbers up DeAndre, okay, and then we'll 156 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: we'll make a case for Yeah, you could probably say 157 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: that he is more of a possession receiver. But the 158 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: type of corner that you want doesn't matter where you're 159 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: at in the National Football League. You want a corner 160 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: that can cover somebody by themselves, and you can have 161 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: the utmost confidence that that player can cover him. And 162 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to say shut him out because I mean, 163 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: there's very few corners in the league that can do that. 164 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: Jalen was one of those guys. But Jillen, who was 165 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: a nightmare. What do you wanted to be one of 166 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: those guys? But when when he was on, now, Jalen 167 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: can shut down some of the best of the best. 168 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: But then also Jalen could screw up and have a 169 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: game that he will give up a lot of plays 170 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: and have some mental errors to where he was giving 171 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: up big play after big play. So it's not like 172 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: Jalen was without fault alright, So we'll come back to that, 173 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: and we'll come back around to this. We gotta get 174 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: got quizzle. We'll come back around to the DeAndre Hopkins 175 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: because I think we're onto something with DeAndre. I think 176 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: we're onto something about that. Oh hell, I'm good to 177 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: be honest. Something. But where are we going within Gockway? 178 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: Oh well, let's start off earlier this offseason of course, 179 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: when when g M Dave called Well called the unique 180 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: Gockway situation priority number one, and last week at the 181 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: combine called Wells asked about the process of getting him 182 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: signed or tagged. I think the best thing for us 183 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: to do as an organization is when we have news 184 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: for you guys on that is, to let you guys 185 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: know when we have news on it. Um, there's still 186 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: a process that needs to be played. But I think 187 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: you guys know how we feel about him, and um, 188 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: we want him here. We're gonna try to get him 189 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: here and keep him here, um one way or another. 190 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: This was late last week in Indianapolis. And then Monday morning, 191 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: everyone wakes up to a unique and Gockway tweet saying 192 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: that he no longer had interest in being in Jacksonville, 193 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: no interest in signing a long term contract here. Duvo, 194 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I love you and I gave you guys everything I 195 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: got him. Thankful for the journey and look forward to 196 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: continue in my career else where ninety one saying goodbye. Well, 197 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: he's not saying goodbye because the Jaguars still have the 198 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: franchise tag available to place on him. And then which 199 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: day which look, Dave Carli said one way or another 200 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: when he's talking about keeping that which one way or 201 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: another means with an extension or with the tag. But 202 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: or where I'm kind of a miss on this whole 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: situation is that as Um as a free agent, first 204 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: of all, in Gowkway should never want to close the 205 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: door on on any on any avenue that maybe open 206 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: to him in free agency, whether it be that his 207 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: existing team or potential teams that that are out there, whatever, 208 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: because look, the more and the more people that want you, 209 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: the more your price goes up. So you don't want 210 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: to shut the door on the team that you're with. 211 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: So what happened, I mean, what what went wrong? Was Coughlin? 212 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, do we want to blame this one Coughlin too? 213 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: He's been gone since December? Um, because I mean that's 214 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: supposedly there was some issues with Coughlin and contracts with 215 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: and go way before with other people and Tom Coughlin 216 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: is not around. So um my point is where my 217 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: question is because I know yahn uh y'han's stand up 218 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: guy now, but if you if you say something wrong 219 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: to yn, he's done with you. He'll be done with 220 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: you in a minute. And he doesn't forget. No, he's 221 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: like an elephant. That's right, He's gonna remember. But what 222 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: what happened? I mean, was there something said? Was there 223 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: something done? And look, I understand that negotiations are business 224 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes things get said that can be perceived or 225 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: taken in the wrong way. Maybe maybe that was it. 226 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but boy, I mean that's first of all, 227 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: he's a marvelous player. He he is one of the 228 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: best young pass rushers in the game. You can debate 229 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: what his level of pay should be. Should it be 230 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: eighteen million or twenty two million. You can have that 231 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: debate and go round and round and round, like we've 232 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: had that debate. But yes, that's been the debate. But 233 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: the I think the issue here is that you're talking 234 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: about a guy who he's doing everything by the book. 235 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: He's entitled to do anything that he wants to do. 236 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: He played under a contract that was not fair to 237 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: his talent level and his production over the last couple 238 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: of years because that's the rules of the National Football League, 239 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: and now he's entitled to to test the market. The 240 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: team's entitled to apply the franchise tag. So this is 241 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: where unfortunately, passion, the passion that everybody has for the sport, 242 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: doesn't mix with the business eye of the sport. And 243 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: that's just the reality of it and what's gonna happen. 244 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: What's the end result. Look, the reality is that you 245 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: never want to have players that don't want to be 246 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: with you. That's a fact. I mean, you do you 247 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: want to have a player who's And I'm not saying 248 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: he's a malcontent, but if but if somebody's not happy, 249 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of a term. Put it out on social 250 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: media that he doesn't want to be Do you want 251 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: to do you want to tag somebody? And what? What 252 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: would he how was his reaction to that be? First 253 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: of all, he wouldn't be happy that he's been tagged, 254 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't be happy that it doesn't have a 255 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: long term deal. Do you want to have that in 256 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: your locker room? Do you want to have that on 257 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: your team? And he's a great player, is it worth 258 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: having that to have the productivity? And what would the 259 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: productivity be the same? What the well? Because he's always 260 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: don't don't don't question the production with you on because 261 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: I can tell you one thing. If there was ever 262 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: a year for him that did he could have wanted 263 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: to protect himself to get the free agency, it was 264 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: this past year. And even in the last couple of 265 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: games he's thrown himself around, which I think I highlighted 266 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: that in in a film room segment at some point 267 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: in the end of the year last year, and I 268 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: was like, wow, I got more even more respect for him. 269 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: God way, because here's a guy that, if he gets hurt, 270 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: could cost himself sixty seventy million and guaranteed money. So 271 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: if if he played the game a little bit cautious, 272 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: I would have understood. But he didn't play the game cautiously. 273 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: He threw him but his body around like like you 274 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: want your football players to do like you you want 275 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: the guys on your team to do so uh and 276 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: then look there the debate will always go on, is 277 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: he worth twenty two million? And and um, look I 278 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. I mean, is he 279 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: worth Could he be worth twenty two million? Sure? Has 280 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: he been in a double digit sack guy consistently? No? 281 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: Is he great against the run? No? Does he make 282 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: plays against the run sometimes yes? Can he be a 283 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: liability against the run at times? Yes? Do you pay 284 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: somebody that can be a liability against the run? But 285 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: yet's a good pass rush your twenty two million? It 286 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: happens on your defense, It happens. It happens because of 287 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: the premium that's put on on the ability of a 288 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: player to brush the passer. So but put it. But 289 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: it goes into that category of here's another thing that's 290 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: not going well. Added to the list. You know that 291 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: that you want and I think as as fans and 292 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: looking as supporter as the team, you want to see 293 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: some things that are happening that you go, that's what 294 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: we need. That's good, that's good. Yes, And when it happens, 295 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: it builds confidence. And right now you haven't gotten to 296 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: the point where those things can happen yet, because look, 297 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: there's still some things probably coming. I wouldn't be shocked 298 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: by that at all from from a cap standpoint, you know, 299 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: because if you're gonna be a player in free agency, 300 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: and also the tag of and Gockway is gonna eat 301 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: some of that cap room up, you know, there's a 302 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of things still to happen, and you just you want, 303 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: you want the things that are on the bad side 304 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: of the ledger to stop and that the good side 305 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: to start happening. And obviously the good side can't start 306 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: to happen until you get the free agency and and 307 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: for this team, a lot of the good things are 308 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: gonna be happening in the draft with the bevy of 309 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: picks that they have. And let me say this for 310 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: the for the boy than did I never really commented 311 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: on that a fourth round pick for a guy that 312 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: you probably were gonna have to cut. It's a it's 313 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. You know that. I get the Jaguars, 314 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: and Dave called all credit the jail and Ramsey for 315 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: him to get to get two ones and a four 316 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: for that, I mean, I thought he fleeced the Rams 317 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: and to get a fourth from the Denver Broncos, Look, 318 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: that's a great job because in theory, you're gonna let 319 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: him go anyway. You're talking about a guy's probably gonna 320 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: get cut anyway, and so you end up getting a 321 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: fourth form and a lot of people say, oh, you know, 322 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: you would have got a compensatory pick. You don't get 323 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: compensatory picks that you cut together. Okay, So so look, 324 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: there's criticism out there on Caldwell, but look, don't criticize 325 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: him as far as the draft picks that he's been 326 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: able to get with these two trades specifically, because I 327 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: think he's done a pretty good job with East two. 328 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: And look, you never want to trade good players away, 329 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: but for for the players that you traded away, what 330 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: you got, I think I think the price that has 331 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: been received has been very good. Let's come back. Pete 332 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Prisco is at it again. 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All loan subject 396 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: to approval, insured by n c U. A. Well, I've 397 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: done a lot of workout him coming out. I think 398 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: he's a fun guy to watch. He's got a lot 399 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: of energy. He plays like it. He plays like yes, 400 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Arizon fires like sometimes you just want to calm down. 401 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: You know when you watch a filver, you like taking 402 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: a deep breath, catching your breath. Watching off schedule plays 403 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: is what the NFL is all about. Now. You know, 404 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: we can call plays all day long, but the ones 405 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: that are covered or guard mrs block or whatever. The 406 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: quarterback gets out of his pocket, and that's what he 407 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: really excels that Nick is a true pocket pastor within 408 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: great arm and the winds that he's had in some 409 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: of the games that he's competed in and and performed 410 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: well in or well documented. Really two different styles of quarterback, 411 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: which is fun. Jake Bruden with Ashland Sullivan. The full 412 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: conversation available on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Social media 413 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: and welcome back to Jaguars, Happy our j P, Shadrick, 414 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Lagman, the off season is here. Then on the 415 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: eight team. Then yes, let's go to the tweet we got. 416 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: We got a tweet about you're you're still hung up 417 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: on So it's fine. I mean it's a big but 418 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of people we'll get 419 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: back to quarterbacks in a moment. A lot of times 420 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: people end up having they get fixated on one particular 421 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: stat and this stat on a j boy go ahead 422 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: and read it. It's a touchdown percentage again against corners 423 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: in the National Football Jack's bos said, please show this 424 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: to logs and it was a next gen stat about 425 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: a J boy um with Jalen Ramsey's Partridge. Twenty nineteen, 426 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: the Jaguars have now traded away the only two defensive 427 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: backs that have allowed a t d on fewer than 428 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: two and a half percent of their targets since a 429 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: J Boy was at one eight percent, number one in 430 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: that area. Okay, um, just real quick uh PFF, which 431 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: does usually a pretty good job of grading cornerback football focus. Yes, 432 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: and a J Boy a Jenn Ramsey were one two 433 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: or two one right there? It was back and forth 434 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: the whole s Okay, uh boy, it wasn't even in 435 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: the top thirty the last two years. Okay, boy over 436 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years has a lot of completion 437 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: percentage about sixty when he's been targeted, and a quarterback 438 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: rating of over a hundred. Okay, So find another stat 439 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: that that might reflect better on a J. Look. Look, 440 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: I like a J as a person. I'm not saying 441 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: it's a bad player. I'm just saying, is that third 442 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: teen million for the level of play? They don't marry 443 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 1: It wasn't the same player he was in. No, they 444 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: don't marry you know. So Look, you can throw out 445 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: stats and where he's at the top of touchdown percentage, 446 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: but look, that might be the only stat that you 447 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: find because completion percentage, quarterback rating, uh, pass breakups, interceptions, 448 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: I think he's had one interception a year for the 449 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: last two years and seventeen. Look, that's not a great number. Okay, 450 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: so find another stat. I mean, if if you want 451 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: to throw stat at me, I'll throw you a stat 452 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: right back the battle. We can do that because I mean, look, 453 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: though sometimes stats can be can be cherry picked in 454 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: some cases to to make your case however you want 455 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: to make your case. We heard from Jake Gruden there 456 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: coming out offensive coordinator. First time we've heard from him, 457 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: by the way, and the first I think visiting Jacksonville 458 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: with any of the media was with Ashland and the 459 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: full visit there. It's notable obviously what his thoughts are 460 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: on the quarterback situation. That's another topic we really didn't 461 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: get into yet was Nick Foles and the stories this 462 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: week in the NFL network that he could be available 463 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: and maybe being pushed out there on the trading block 464 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: as well. That'd be like a reverse trade, like get 465 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: out of here and here's something to take with him 466 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: maybe maybe, I mean in order when or for a 467 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: team to take the cap number, team would pay some money, 468 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: give up a pick to be able to move him on. 469 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: You know. So the one thing I will say that 470 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: conversation with Ashlands, if you read between the lines, I mean, 471 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: maybe I'm reading between the wrong lines here, but I 472 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: get the impression that he liked Gordier Minshew a lot 473 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: more than he likes Nick Falls from that bite we heard, sure, right, 474 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: And if you listen to the whole and it's it's 475 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: a it's an all scheduled league, he makes more off 476 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: scheduled plays. Um, you know. But the reality is is 477 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: that this team needs to covert both quarterbacks right now, 478 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: because if you downgrade one or the other, then it's 479 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna downgrade the value of a player that 480 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: you may want to move one way or the other. 481 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: So but I think it's gonna be in. I mean, 482 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: that's the most interesting question among many questions with his 483 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: football team for is what what's going to happen at 484 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback position? And if it is Gardner Minshew, can 485 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: he take this team and can he take the next step? 486 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: And can he take this team to the next step? 487 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: What's his ceiling? That's the big question. What can he 488 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: be as a quarterback? I don't I don't know the 489 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: answer to that. I think anybody knows the answer to that. 490 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: And I don't think people in the building know the answer. Well, 491 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: I I do know this. Players that pick that are 492 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: picked in the later rounds typically aren't viewed as having 493 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: a very high sale. There's a reason they're drafting that, right, 494 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: So I think that I think from from that. But look, 495 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: here's the reality. Tom Brady was a six round pick. Yeah, 496 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: but I mean that's the once in a lifetime type guy. 497 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: And I get it, see it. But but I'm just saying, 498 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: is that, look at things like that do happen. Carl 499 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: Mecklenburg was he was like a twelfth round pick or 500 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: something like that for the for the Denver bron Because 501 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: we're talking about a Hall of Fame player, hall of 502 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: Fame type player. I mean, so uh, you can't end 503 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: up pigeonholing somebody just because of where they were drafted. 504 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: But I do know this and that if if you 505 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: believe that Gardner Minshew is the guy and you're not 506 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: gonna do your homework on the quarterbacks in this draft, 507 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: you're making a mistake. I think you have to have 508 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: an approach. And then I you know, following the news 509 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: around the league, which we do all the time, we 510 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: we we read it and we h we we talked 511 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: to people that are in this building, We talk to 512 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: people that are in other buildings, We read clips from 513 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: other places. And look, look at the Redskins. Maron Rivera 514 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: is hired in Washington. They have a first round pick 515 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: quarterback that was drafted last year in the building, and 516 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: they have said they're gonna do their due diligence on 517 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback class of this year because I believe Washington 518 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Redskins had the second overall pick in the draft. And 519 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: do do you you can you can get a pretty 520 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: good quarterback in say look, yeah, I mean, look, you 521 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: might think that Dwayne Haskins is gonna be a good 522 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: football player. But if you think that Toa is gonna 523 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: be better, do you do you pass them up? Just 524 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: because you drafted one last year? You take them right, 525 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: So you're thinking that, I mean, no matter what happens, 526 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: if what if full stage, I'm not saying that you 527 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback JP. I'm what I'm saying this is, 528 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: this is just in general, Ignore Nick Foles. This is 529 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: this is saying Nick Foles and gardnerment you are on this, 530 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't care. Still look through and where you are 531 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: at and nine look, if you fall in love with 532 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: one of these guys that are not named two up 533 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 1: because he's probably gonna go before nine, and Joe Burrow, 534 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: who is going to go before nine. But if they're 535 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: one of these other guys you love okay, the kid 536 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: from Oregon, No, he love them okay, and he's available 537 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: at nine, take him, take him right, and then you 538 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: can you have something to deal with if you you know, 539 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: you can get rid of the other guy. If you don't, 540 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: here's the thing, it doesn't matter. See, all of that 541 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The most important important thing is is trying 542 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: to find greatness at the quarterback position. You are not 543 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: trying to find we're okay, we're good, we're okay at 544 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: that position. You're trying to find greatness because if you 545 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: don't find if you continue to be average at that position, 546 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: which this team hasn't been average at that position, has 547 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: been average at best, and that's a long stretch, yes, 548 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: but if you can finally find a way to find 549 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: greatness at that position, your team has a chance at greatness. 550 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: That's why you never closed the door on the quarterback position. 551 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: Never more. Ahead will get into logs. Thoughts on DeAndre 552 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: Hopkins we haven't touched on that at that point to okay, 553 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: that's one year. 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What a show 626 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: It's gonna be? Jack Chadwick Jeff Flagerman because Jaguars Happy Hour, 627 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: and we're joined by Chad Johnson, Senior VP of Sales 628 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: and Service for the Jags. Good to see it, Chad, 629 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: what's up. It's always great to be here. Guys. Thanks 630 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: glad to have you back in the studio here. And 631 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: a guy, I got a question right out of the game, 632 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: please tell me what the six pack is. Well, listen, 633 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: we're lucky enough here to be launching this biggest rock 634 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: tour in the country this summer here in Jacksonville. The 635 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: band's gonna be here for a week rehearsing. All media, 636 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: all markets gonna be looking at us, so we have 637 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: to show everybody what we're all about. So we want 638 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: to pack this building. We want to make sure it's 639 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: the biggest selling show on the tour. So we're launching 640 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: this six pack, which is a really heavy promotionally priced ticket. 641 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: But what's really cool about it, we know how important 642 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: the military is in this market. So for every six 643 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: pack we sell, the Jaguar are gonna donate two tickets 644 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: to the USO for military men and women to come 645 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: out and enjoy the show. For France. Really cool, man, 646 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: really cool. It's a good lineup. I mean, first of all, 647 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: def Leppard and Motley Crue can I mean can stand 648 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: on their own sure, And for me personally, I mean 649 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: I saw Motley Crue play in nasall cal sum years ago, 650 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: back in the early nineties. So we go with the 651 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: lockupens Tommy Lee was playing the drums up on the 652 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: in the ceiling. Well, if you look across this table, 653 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: it's probably right at all of our wheelhouses right now. 654 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: But it is the biggest rock show in the summer 655 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: and they're doing thirty one dates. They're selling like crazy everywhere, 656 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: So we were really fortunate to be able to get 657 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: this first show and kick off the tour. Um. It's 658 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a five hour party, you know when you 659 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: look at that lineup, it's a long, long, fun night 660 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: and we'll drink some beers and have a good time. 661 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: What's the what's the date? June eighteen, June eight Thursday night. 662 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: We can go right after the show, We're gonna walk 663 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: right out of the tunnel and we'll be right here 664 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: inside t I a bank field and this has turned 665 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: in to a venue. Now that you've been a couple 666 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: of big stadium shows, you're obviously Leonard Skinner and that 667 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: whole deal all day long. It was fantastic. And then 668 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: of course the Rolling Stones coming here and packed the 669 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: place too, So this is really turning into a place 670 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: where these tours want to come. When you look at 671 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: Shodd's vision of opening Daily's Place and our bullish reputation 672 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: of what we can deliver here, we knew we could 673 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: be a great market, but we had to earn it 674 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 1: the right way. Right We opened slowly with Daily's Place, 675 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: put on some great acts, put on that Skinner show 676 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: in their hometown. That was incredible, by the way. I mean, 677 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: first of all, Skinner was great, but BlackBerry Smoke all 678 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: the way through with ken Rock was that was one 679 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: of the best times I've had in a long time. Well, 680 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: the artists loved it and the fans loved and when 681 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: those two things happen, people start knocking on your door 682 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: to come back. And that's what's been a really special 683 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: and fun thing to see evolve here. I think that 684 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: was one of the cool things about the Skinner show 685 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: For me personally, I thought BlackBerry Smokes to all the 686 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: show and for me, and they're coming back to Daily's Place, 687 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: by the way, that was just just the Almond Brothers band, 688 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,479 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a special tribute show and and 689 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: and that's where they have such a good time here, 690 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: they wanted to come back. That's what we want to 691 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: see happen every time. This definite Leppard show is going 692 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: to be fantastic and uh, tickets obviously are on sale now, 693 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: but the six pack is the way to go. This 694 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: is the way to get in here. It's across all 695 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: price points, so it's not just the upper level or 696 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: anything else. We have a six pack across all price points. 697 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: We had an awesome day to day when we launched it. 698 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: You know, I'm hoping that we can sell eight ten 699 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: thousand of these and that lets us donate a couple 700 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: of thousand tickets to military, which will be an awesome 701 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: thing for everybody. The the the design of the stadium 702 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: has has that already kind of been configured as far 703 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: as how the setup will be. Is it gonna be 704 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: one stage? Is it gonna be multiple stages? Because when 705 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about this era of bands, they all kind 706 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: of have their own little thing that they do. Ye 707 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, we we've been working through the production. It 708 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: is one stage. What I'm hoping though, is we have 709 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: to keep moving that stage back further and further and 710 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: further because more and more people are coming. And that's 711 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: that's the great thing about the flexibility of our stadium 712 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: that we can do. Um. But you're right, each one 713 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: of those puts on a pretty intense performance. So the 714 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: the change over piece is a really well orchestrated but 715 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: really difficult thing to go from one band to the 716 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: other with this group, do you have do you have 717 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: dressing rooms for all these live acts that come in 718 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: the different bands each got their own dressing well. Uh, 719 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: if you've seen what we've done in with the new 720 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: locker rooms, that was part of building those out as 721 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: we need a new backup house rooms for those. If 722 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: you look at what we did with the Rolling Stones, 723 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: we built the whole artist village depending on how many 724 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: artists we have where we bring in resources and we 725 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: want them to leave thinking this was the best place 726 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: they played in the country. So we really put a 727 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: lot into making sure that artist experience is the best 728 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: it can be for them. Make sure you have plenty 729 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: of makeup artists for Poison. I am sure they are 730 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: traveling well equipped. They might have worned but besides kiss Okay, 731 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: they might have worn more makeup than any of the 732 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: hair bands from back in the day. I am sure 733 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: they're all coming ready, ready and prepared. I might have 734 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more makeup on these days, you know, 735 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, getting little a little older, you know, making 736 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: itself look good like that good stuff. So obviously this 737 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: is a musically inclined city and area, So make it 738 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: out to def Leopard, Montley Crue, Poison jone jet Je. 739 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: Get the six pack offer in now at ticketmaster dot com. 740 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: While we have you here, it is season ticket member 741 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: renewal time. What do we need to know about that process, 742 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: how it's going so far, the deadlines and what's coming. 743 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: So so we launched on Thursday. We do know that 744 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: this year there's some unique things that are happening around 745 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: the building with the construction a lot j development, parking. 746 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, people have talked about the two games in 747 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: London and what does that mean. So we've really had 748 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: to make ourselves accessible right now. There's a lot of 749 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: long conversations and making sure people understand exactly what's happening 750 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: and what we've done with pricing that's favorable for them 751 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: and those types of things. So we know that this 752 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: will be a little bit of a longer burn than 753 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: maybe in the past. Are deadlines at the end of March. March, 754 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: we have a big golf tournament in town next week, 755 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: so you know, there's a little disruption there. So it 756 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: was important that we gave it a long runway to 757 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: make sure we can talk to everybody. Now. I'm sure 758 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who want to have a 759 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: conversation and looking and having a lot of patients for 760 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: on on your end, I'm sure it is required, and 761 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: kudos to you guys, because I'm sure that there are 762 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: challenges and every year comes different challenges and this is 763 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: no different. No, I mean, there's no doubt this will 764 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: be a tricky off season because we have to re 765 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: educate them on and maybe some of their experiences have 766 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: been the same for twenty five years are now going 767 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: to be a little different. Well, And I think a 768 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: lot of questions of people might have I mean, because 769 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: this these are some of the questions that have posed 770 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: to me because of what I do and and for 771 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: so long people want to ask me like I have 772 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: the answers to all of that, and I don't. But 773 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: the one of the big questions, how will the schedule 774 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: be managed when you have to London games that typically 775 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: in the past at least the London game has fallen 776 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of the schedule. I mean we've seen, 777 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, quite a long window where there hasn't been 778 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: a game here at t i A bank Field, And 779 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: so I mean, are we looking at maybe another window? 780 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: You know that's gonna be interested in how that's managed. 781 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: Because the schedule doesn't come out one until April. We 782 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: know in the long term that our goal would be 783 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: too if there are games moved, to move them at 784 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: a time that's the least desirable for our fans. We 785 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: know that September games and things like that could be 786 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: a challenge, so there there's no doubt attention to try 787 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: to address it and make it the easiest for our 788 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: fans and the most beneficial. That way. That's gonna take 789 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: some time, and like you said, we don't have full control. 790 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: If we did, it would be a little different, but 791 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 1: we're at the mercy of scheduling and some other things 792 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: that are outside of the Jaguars control itself. Chad, great stuff, 793 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time. And as you said, Logs, 794 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you and your staff. Chat are 795 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: working your tails off over there, and I walked through 796 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: there occasionally in the phones are ringing. Everybody's from from 797 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: open to close talking to our fans, and we appreciate 798 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: what you guys do. Thank you much. All right, So 799 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: real quick question your favorite band out of the June 800 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: the June concert coming here, y'all. I'm gonna let you 801 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: know that I like all of them. Of course, I'm 802 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: out here trying to book more and more, and I 803 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: want to tell you I love every artist that comes 804 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: through here just the same. 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They want to pull Leon 876 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: Lett before we get to the ins, because then somebody 877 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: might pull a don be beyond. That's correct, um the 878 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: speaking of um, Well, this has nothing to do with that. 879 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: But DeAndre Hopkins, we were earlier discussing cornerbacks and a 880 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: j boy and how you replace that spot on this 881 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: football team, certainly considering, and you said your argument was 882 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter. There's speeded receiver all around the NFL. 883 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: But in this division, there are some talented top end receivers, 884 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: let's say it that way, in this division. And you 885 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 1: said that maybe DeAndre Hopkins numbers what weren't what you 886 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: thought they would be in terms of yards per catch. Well, 887 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins doesn't run a ton of vertical routes. I mean, 888 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: that's will four. He's the one that's going down. I mean, 889 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,479 Speaker 1: he he's the guy that that takes the top off 890 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: of a defense. And I'm not trying to to disparage 891 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins whatsoever. He's one of the best receivers in 892 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 1: the game period. His his catch radius and catch percentage 893 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. But if you look at his numbers, they 894 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: have they have crept down throughout his career where to 895 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: the point where and you can see the trend to 896 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: where when he was younger he was fifteen ish yards 897 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: per catch, and where last year two years ago he 898 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 1: might have been like twelve three years ago, about thirteen 899 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: two years ago, about twelve this past year round eleven ish? 900 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: Am I right point two this year okay? And the 901 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: year before that it was thirteen point seven okay. So 902 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean you can see the trend where he's kind 903 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: of going down a little bit. But I mean, he's 904 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: still a great receiver. I'm not trying to to criticize 905 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: him in any way, shape or form. I'm just trying 906 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: to say that he's not the guy that you worry about, 907 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: which is will Fuller. I mean, that's why will Fuller 908 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: made took that offense to a different level when he 909 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: was acting when he was hurt, it was not the 910 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: same group, because now you're talking about DeAndre Hopkins being 911 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: even better just because of the attention that Will Fuller 912 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: Garner going vertical. So all that said, the JAG's gotta 913 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: figure that out next year. Corner. I mean, I'd be 914 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: more worried about finding a guy that's gonna cover cover 915 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Hopkins and Fuller and Fuller. I mean in 916 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: the division. I mean, if you look at the Tennessee, 917 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 1: does Tennessee have a guy that's been scaring you? The 918 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: old guy? He's a guy and up and coming, the rookie? Uh, 919 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: DK metcalf is a guy that was Is that him 920 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: D came out? Was that the guy in Seattle? I'm 921 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: trying to remember the two? A J. Brown? A J. Brown, 922 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: he's but A Brown fantastic and he's big, He's got 923 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: size to him. So, uh, does Indianapolis have a look? 924 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: T Y Hilton doesn't scare me anymore. I don't know. 925 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: Just the memories I have of him against this football 926 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's memories like you know he has 927 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, and is it is a quarterback related maybe, 928 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: but against the secondary, that's not that that could be 929 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: subpar in theory, that's not a good matchup. Stuff never is, 930 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: but t Y Hilton does not scare me anymore. Let's 931 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: go around the national Let's do that. Let's do it. 932 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: Let's start off with our friend Pete Priscoe. He was 933 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: back at it today on CBS Sports dot Com. Here's 934 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: the title of the article, logs how Jaguars. Pete does 935 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: not write the title. Well, he writes the lead. We'll 936 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: get to that in a moment. The title is how 937 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars went from doorstep of the Super Bowl to a 938 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: dysfunctional mess in just two seasons. The subtitle is the 939 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars went off script on a key third down in 940 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game and never right of 941 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: the ship. So here's the lead. This is the first 942 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: sentence of the entire story, and it's filled with commas, 943 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: and it goes on and on and on. It's hard 944 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: to believe one play, one simple play in a season 945 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: full of deciding plays, could actually turn a franchise completely around, 946 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: taking it from a team of rising young cockey players 947 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: on the verge of special times to a team in disarray, 948 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: with players being discarded by an angry former coach, in 949 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: fighting in the locker room and a team that again 950 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 1: has become what it's been for much of its twenty 951 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: five year existence, a punching bag to the rest of 952 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: the league and especially the national media. The next sentence, yes, 953 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and he 954 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 1: goes throughout the story of about six main reasons why 955 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 1: that was the case over the last couple of years, 956 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: and and really went after the team. Well, I mean, wasn't. 957 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: He's not the only one that's going after the team. 958 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: There's been other articles. In fact, a couple of days ago, 959 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: a guy that writes for CBS Sports wrote an article 960 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: that was not very complementary of the Jaguars organization, and 961 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't Pete. So, look, the reality is, you gotta win. 962 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 1: When you when you start putting out four wins, six wins, 963 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: and your success rate over the last number of years 964 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: is amongst the bottom of the league, you have to 965 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 1: change the narrative. And the only way that you change 966 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: the narrative is by winning. That's it. No other way. 967 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to have articles written about you like 968 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: that right when, I don't want to have other people 969 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 1: around the league laughing at you win. Quite simple let's 970 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: move on. It's quite simple. The problem about people talking 971 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: about you, but changing where you are to get to 972 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: the point to winning is not easy. It's not don't 973 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: we know If it was easy, everybody would be doing it, 974 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: and this team has not been doing it. No, it's 975 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,479 Speaker 1: not easy. Player voting has opened on the new labor deal. 976 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: All members of the nfl p A from last season 977 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen league year will be eligible to vote electronically. 978 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: Remains open until March twelve, that's about a week away 979 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: at eleven pm Eastern time. A simple majority gets it 980 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: ratified plus one to get the new CBA in effective. 981 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Will you think it will pass? 982 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: It'll pass, It'll pass at um it's very very difficult. 983 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: Having having been involved actively involved with the union for 984 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: many years, I was a player rep. I was a 985 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,919 Speaker 1: vice president, which is executive of committee member. And first 986 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: of all, there are a lot of positives with this 987 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: new deal. Um. Things that the players are going to 988 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: receive money wise, reduction and training, um. But most importantly 989 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: the increase in money. And you're talking about a significant 990 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: increase in money for the guys that are on the 991 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: lower end of the pay spectrum, which is that's the 992 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: bulk of your vote, the rank and file players in league. 993 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 1: That the bulk of your votes right there. So from 994 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, it'll pass, and as it should pass, 995 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: because the only way that it doesn't pass is that 996 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: you've got to have a complete player body that is 997 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: willing to not play football and to not get paid 998 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: for a year or two. And I don't I don't 999 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: see I don't see the union and its membership willing 1000 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: to do that. It's hard. It's hard, JP. I mean, 1001 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about the average career length on the National 1002 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: Football leagu is about three and a half four years. 1003 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: And look, you know what most guys thoughts are, I'm 1004 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 1: not giving up my chicken. I'm not sacrificing my chicken 1005 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: for some guy down the road. Forget it. I'm not 1006 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 1: doing it about my chicken. Speaking of chicken. Princeton, Yes, 1007 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: Princeton University announcing that Marshawn Lynch has been named the 1008 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: senior Class Day speaker in June, and Princeton promoted his 1009 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: quote sustained professional excellence. This is not the commencement ceremony. 1010 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,399 Speaker 1: This is a different ceremony before the commencement. The op head, 1011 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: though the student newspaper came out a little later against 1012 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: the selection process. Uh. And of course, his notable quote 1013 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: after the playoff loss to the Packers last year was 1014 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 1: start taking care of y'all, mentals, your bodies, your chicken, 1015 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 1: and when you're ready to walk away, you'll walk away 1016 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: and be able to do what you wanna do. Let's 1017 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 1: see if um. I mean Also, it's a it's a rooster. 1018 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: It's all you know, it's all good advice. I guess right, 1019 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: We'll see what he says. He's got a great messages 1020 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: his Uh, it's a different way of presenting it when 1021 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: he starts talking about chickens and mentals and and all 1022 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But I think that's actually a 1023 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: very interesting mix. Marshawn Lynz at at the campus of Princeton, 1024 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: and uh, Princeton's uh great school, and I think that 1025 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynz would add a lot as a speaker. I 1026 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: think he would be very interesting and very entertaining. And 1027 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: I think it would be good for the student body 1028 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 1: of Princeton to hear that. We'll see what happens. But 1029 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: some of the student body don't necessarily think so, because 1030 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: some of them have been criticizing Marshawn Lynch because you're 1031 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: talking about bringing in a speaker who has in his past, 1032 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: and they made note of this in his past has 1033 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: refused to speak at different times. For a speaker, that's 1034 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: kind of one of the qualifications you need to speak first, 1035 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: where he sometimes instead the only time reason he wants 1036 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: to speak because they didn't want to get fined. But interesting, nonetheless, 1037 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: reports reports today our final one here. I think I 1038 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: saw this first in the New York Post today that 1039 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: ESPN is plotting a dream Monday Night Football announced Booth 1040 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: al Michael's and Peyton Manning could be in the fold 1041 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: with the ESPN. They're trying to acquire Michaels, who's under 1042 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: contract with NBC. Tarko's the air apparent. It seems like 1043 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: an NBC. Of course, the end of Michael's contract coincide 1044 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl in l a and early now. 1045 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: If you remember, Al Michaels was traded basically the last 1046 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: time he went over to NBC, well, he was at 1047 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: ABC on Monday Night Football, John Madden left to go 1048 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: to NBC. He still had a contract, but to let 1049 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: him out of the contract. ESPN run by Disney wanted 1050 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: the Nights to Oswald the Lucky Rabbit back from NBC Universal, 1051 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: which is the precursor character to Mickey Mouse. So they 1052 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: made that trade, and now Michaels went to NBC. I 1053 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: think the league got involved with that a little bit too. 1054 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see what happens. Could come back the other way. 1055 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: That would be a great Monday Night crew, It would 1056 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: be I would watch it more because I can tell 1057 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: you what I listened to last year was terrible. I did. 1058 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: In fact, I turned the volume off on Monday Night 1059 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: Football last year, and I hope that changes this year because, uh, 1060 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: continuing on with that is just ridiculous. Blugs, good to 1061 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: see it, good to be good, to be back good 1062 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: and uh, we'll catch you next week. You got it. 1063 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Logan, J P. Shattrick, our entire crew, thank you 1064 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: for listening. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital 1065 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: Network