Speaker 1: Jaguars owner Shot Con part of the ed piece that
Speaker 1: ran yesterday. Let's go to the phone line now and
Speaker 1: welcome in Prid of the Jaguars left tackle Tony Basel A. Tony,
Speaker 1: it's been a little bit good afternoon. How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm good to talk to you again. UM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always good to talk to you, my friend, Same
Speaker 1: to you. Um, things have have changed a bit since
Speaker 1: we've spoken the last couple of weeks. It is, Um,
Speaker 1: everything is front and center nationally, and it should be that.
Speaker 1: That's the way things have been, especially the last week
Speaker 1: or so. And now you're seeing teams around the NFL
Speaker 1: start to make statements. You're seeing players around the National
Speaker 1: Football League going out on their social media pages or
Speaker 1: are going out in the communities where they reside and
Speaker 1: and marching and protesting and whatever they feel necessary. Um,
Speaker 1: this is obviously the number one storyline, not only in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, but in our country. And I
Speaker 1: don't think and our generation, certainly my generation, you're not
Speaker 1: that much older than I am. We haven't seen anything
Speaker 1: close to this type of response for something like this. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, the closest reminds me of when I was
Speaker 1: at USC and the l a riot. That's Rodney King
Speaker 1: uh uh uh police brutality that ended up the riots
Speaker 1: actually broke out after the police officers were let off
Speaker 1: and found innocent. UM, and the city basically was in
Speaker 1: chaos for several days. National guards we brought in. So
Speaker 1: this is very similar. That the difference is while that
Speaker 1: had sprinklings and other communities around the country, it was
Speaker 1: largely contained the Los Angeles. UM. This has gone nationwide. UM,
Speaker 1: there's a national response. UM. And by the way, there
Speaker 1: should be. UM. It's enough and enough. You cannot, um
Speaker 1: what happened to George Floyd Uh is you know cannot
Speaker 1: happen our country. UM. Now listen. UH probably the first
Speaker 1: to tell you that the vast majority of police officers
Speaker 1: are greating beings that do an amazing job to serve
Speaker 1: and protect our community. But that's unfortunately, that's not the
Speaker 1: story that we're talking about right now. We shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: It's the it's the abuse of power. UM. It's it's
Speaker 1: being done to a uh, an African American man who UM.
Speaker 1: Regardless of if you want to argue with as if
Speaker 1: there was a non violent crime or not. I don't
Speaker 1: care what it was he did not and that you know,
Speaker 1: and there's a time and this time now that we
Speaker 1: as a country come together, Um, we listened to each other. UM,
Speaker 1: we have empathy for each other. Um, and we start
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to move forward in a
Speaker 1: positive way. And uh. And I think that's what these
Speaker 1: protests are about. And its people saying enough enough, and
Speaker 1: we're not going to stand by and allow this to
Speaker 1: happen any longer. Is Pride of the Jaguars left tackling that?
Speaker 1: That's gonna going to be the challenge. I think everybody
Speaker 1: wants answers, They want change, and they want it now. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be now. It's going to be in time,
Speaker 1: and there's no answer to win. The time frame will
Speaker 1: be when there's change and answers. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: the real difficult part of what's going on right now. Um.
Speaker 1: But this is the beginning of that. Where the end
Speaker 1: is we don't really know well in this I mean
Speaker 1: in our country. This is something that started, you know,
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of years ago, generations and generations ago,
Speaker 1: and has it improved over the years, especially since the
Speaker 1: civil rights movement led by Martin Luther King Jr. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's improved, but it's not where it needs to be.
Speaker 1: And we took a step backwards and what we saw
Speaker 1: and and that's not okay. And so we need need
Speaker 1: to get it needs to be a conscious effort of
Speaker 1: everybody to work together to UM make sure that people
Speaker 1: are treated equally. Uh, there's equity in the system. UM
Speaker 1: and that UH never should a human being be judged
Speaker 1: or be treated differently because of the color of their skin.
Speaker 1: And I said this, I said a couple of times
Speaker 1: now there's like no place in our world, our country.
Speaker 1: So where about our country where we live. UM, like
Speaker 1: anyone thinks they're better than somebody else because of their
Speaker 1: skin color is It's just ridiculous to me. And that's
Speaker 1: there's no place for that. And we need to rid that.
Speaker 1: And it starts by number one. It starts by leaders
Speaker 1: UM in the community, which the NFL teams are in,
Speaker 1: NFL players are and owners aren't, coaches aren't making statements
Speaker 1: and making sure that when we everyone goes there a part.
Speaker 1: It also starts in the home of mothers and fathers
Speaker 1: of communicating their kids. I mean, I know I've had
Speaker 1: very serious conversations with my children. UM, we've always started
Speaker 1: to raise them the right way and the understanding, the
Speaker 1: respect everybody, even if they you know, no matter how
Speaker 1: they look, and even if they disagree with them, and
Speaker 1: that you might have a disagreement of a major issue
Speaker 1: doesn't mean to say you should respect them any less
Speaker 1: or treat them less or anything else. That we are
Speaker 1: to love and treat everyone who respect UM. And and
Speaker 1: and so those are the conversations we need to be
Speaker 1: having as fathers and mothers with our because that's where
Speaker 1: it starts, and that's where the change starts. And obviously
Speaker 1: there needs to be I mean, people smarter than you
Speaker 1: and I JP need to be looking at the whole system.
Speaker 1: You know, the legal system. I mean you know what legislation, legislator,
Speaker 1: legislative changes can we make, UM to make sure it's
Speaker 1: equitable for all, UM. But for us as leaders in
Speaker 1: our homes and our communities and businesses and football teams,
Speaker 1: it's about having honest, open communications, listening to each other, UM,
Speaker 1: trying to walk in each other's shoes. And that's very difficult.
Speaker 1: Like I cannot comprehend what it means to be a
Speaker 1: black man because I'm not and that's okay. But I
Speaker 1: can have compassion and I can listen and try to
Speaker 1: understand and uh, and that's what it's gonna take. And
Speaker 1: it's a long road. I mean, this is not a
Speaker 1: quick fix. This is not something that you wake up
Speaker 1: and it's just over and everything's fine. Um. And I
Speaker 1: think what you have to do, you have to see
Speaker 1: change and needs have to see progress of us going
Speaker 1: in the right direction as a community. Tony Baselli with
Speaker 1: US Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shatrick with you as well.
Speaker 1: It's Thursday, June four. Um. The the op ed piece
Speaker 1: from shot Con there. We we just read a snippet
Speaker 1: of it. The full piece available on Jaguars dot com
Speaker 1: and some other media outlets. You know, he goes through
Speaker 1: his background coming into the United States, what he's seen
Speaker 1: through his own eyes, and then the next step. I
Speaker 1: think that made that totally different from any other team's
Speaker 1: announcements is what steps he's trying to figure out to
Speaker 1: move forward on this thing. And you know he's something's
Speaker 1: going to happen with Mr Connie's gonna talk with the players,
Speaker 1: he said, and see what they want to do as
Speaker 1: a as a group. I think with with him anything,
Speaker 1: anytime he says something's going to happen, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of figure out what the next
Speaker 1: step is. I found the piece very thoughtful, um, in depth,
Speaker 1: and the best one I think that that we've seen
Speaker 1: from any team in the NFL. Well, listen, we all
Speaker 1: have you know, we're all shaped from where we come
Speaker 1: from and in the families we were raised, in the
Speaker 1: communities we were raised in it. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: one of the great things. We digressed for a second.
Speaker 1: But I love about professional football and being an athlete
Speaker 1: that I was exposed and around and we're closely with
Speaker 1: people who came from different places tonight it and we're
Speaker 1: raised differently and and experienced different culture. To me, I
Speaker 1: love that that's refreshing, the like I like being around
Speaker 1: different people and experience in trying to understand it and
Speaker 1: in learning about me and me learning about them, because
Speaker 1: we're all we're all different, I mean, and who would
Speaker 1: want it any other way? Like who wants to all
Speaker 1: be the same? That's boring, um, And so I mean.
Speaker 1: I told the story of going to USC from Boulder, Colorado,
Speaker 1: where my high school had a handful of African American
Speaker 1: students to USC in the middle of that, just outside
Speaker 1: downtown Los Angeles, in a locker room of a college
Speaker 1: football team with a majority of the people are African Americans,
Speaker 1: and to learn and to experience that and be around
Speaker 1: it in the community I lived in UH where USC
Speaker 1: is located. I thought it was fascinating. I learned so
Speaker 1: much that I grew and I loved it. And it
Speaker 1: goes throughout the NFL. We learned to work together and
Speaker 1: to understand each other and respect each other. UM. And
Speaker 1: I say all that because the statement that Sean Khan
Speaker 1: made is shaped by his experience as a UH coming
Speaker 1: from Pakistan, as a young man, as a Muslim American. UM.
Speaker 1: I mean you think back being a Muslim around UH
Speaker 1: nine eleven, how difficult that was, in the strain and
Speaker 1: the and the Biggot three that we saw happen, And
Speaker 1: because the people being afraid and scared and and everything else.
Speaker 1: Because that's where that a lot of that comes from
Speaker 1: a lot of times, his fear of the unknown and
Speaker 1: being scared, and and for the way that he has
Speaker 1: responded in the way that he has found UM a
Speaker 1: pathway to be just uber successful. UM is one great
Speaker 1: you know story and TESTI money, but also about UM
Speaker 1: his passion around of making sure that there is equality
Speaker 1: and there is equity in the system. And and you're right,
Speaker 1: I have little doubt that dot com will put his
Speaker 1: energy and his resources and the old saying his money
Speaker 1: where you know his mouth is because of what he said,
Speaker 1: because that's who he is and that's how I mean
Speaker 1: he is UM. I can only imagine what he has
Speaker 1: gone through and seen it's coming over here at sixteen
Speaker 1: years of age with not much in his back pocket
Speaker 1: as a student, and to work his way through and
Speaker 1: all the different challenges as you know, coming from another
Speaker 1: another country in a Muslim American. All the things you
Speaker 1: talked about, the challenges and what he has overcome has
Speaker 1: shaped him and that's why it's so powerful and I
Speaker 1: think it'll be it would be very powerful what he
Speaker 1: will do UM. And I thought the op ed was powerful.
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli with us, let's talk a little ball Tony
Speaker 1: UM coaching and you know that's that's kind of back
Speaker 1: of mind for everybody this week, everything going on. But JP,
Speaker 1: I think that it's back of mind for multiple reasons.
Speaker 1: We had I mean, obviously because with four for you know,
Speaker 1: in the forefront and should be is what has happened
Speaker 1: and the awakening that it has caused in all of us,
Speaker 1: and because I think it's easy for a lot of
Speaker 1: us to take it for granted because we don't experience that,
Speaker 1: and not because you know, we want to or we
Speaker 1: feel that's okay or anything else. Just you know, life
Speaker 1: goes fast and you forget about and this is like
Speaker 1: a shock of the system and it's shocking that it
Speaker 1: happened and it's shocking that it can happen in our country.
Speaker 1: So that kind of takes the forefront. But even more
Speaker 1: than ever because of the pandemic in the coronavirus, football
Speaker 1: has been so secondary outside that short weekend of the
Speaker 1: draft where we kind of gotta live like everything was normal,
Speaker 1: even though it's virtually even you know, football has kind
Speaker 1: of been how do we do it in spite of
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. Well, now you have this other, you know,
Speaker 1: the national story around what we're dealing with and what
Speaker 1: we should be dealing with, and so it's hard because
Speaker 1: you're still not gonna know, you're gonna talk about this.
Speaker 1: Players are still not coming in it's just coaches. UM.
Speaker 1: My big question Doug and everyone, like what do you
Speaker 1: even do? Like why are you coming in? Why can't
Speaker 1: you just do it at your house? I mean it's zoom.
Speaker 1: You have all the technology or whatever technology, Microsoft Team,
Speaker 1: whatever you may use. Um, I wonder what is the
Speaker 1: purpose of coming in as the staff if your players
Speaker 1: can't be there? Apparently the league is allowing up to
Speaker 1: one people in each facility starting tomorrow. No, no, no players. UM,
Speaker 1: that's my point. So what's the purpose? I guess my
Speaker 1: question would be because you know, I'll just like even
Speaker 1: to my job often working in healthcare, I mean, what's
Speaker 1: the technology today in this world? I'm just as productive,
Speaker 1: maybe more productive, because you're not wasting time, you know,
Speaker 1: shooting the breeze the fellas in the in the office. Um,
Speaker 1: because you're just grinding one meeting to the next. And
Speaker 1: I imagine that there's a the level of productivity did
Speaker 1: not drop because coaches were at home. Um, that would
Speaker 1: be my guests, and so I'd love to be great
Speaker 1: to sit down with with Dave and Duck to find out,
Speaker 1: you know, what what this looked like and how is
Speaker 1: their productivity compared to a normal year. Well. Doug sat
Speaker 1: in a conference called last week that the the the
Speaker 1: happiest folks to hear that they're going back to work
Speaker 1: is yeah, that's true. Now that maybe that's why they
Speaker 1: should leave, just the all them, I mean to their
Speaker 1: relationships and their families. I know my family will be
Speaker 1: just fine and happy when I can get back on
Speaker 1: a plane and travel again, no doubt. Um. Tony, Hey,
Speaker 1: good stuff man. Good to talk to you as always,
Speaker 1: and thanks for the insight and the commentary today. We
Speaker 1: appreciate j Thanks, it's good to come on it. I
Speaker 1: do miss seeing everybody. That's one thing. Would be fun
Speaker 1: to get back down there and to see everyone. And
Speaker 1: obviously I know you're no different. You know we need
Speaker 1: to be you know, praying about praying for our beauties
Speaker 1: and being active and communicating and uh and uh and
Speaker 1: making sure we listened during this time and try to
Speaker 1: make real change. Tony, great stuff. We'll talk to you
Speaker 1: again soon, all right, JP T all right. Tony Boselli,
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Speaker 1: from the home studio. We continue away from t I
Speaker 1: A A bank Field, the last show at t I
Speaker 1: A bank Field let's see, let's pull out the calendar
Speaker 1: was March nineteen. It's been a while. Thank you for
Speaker 1: sticking with us through these times. All dailies and Dailies
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Speaker 1: op ed that ran yesterday in different media outlets and
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com of course through the Jaguars PR department.
Speaker 1: Second part we'll get to here. Quote in Jacksonville, I
Speaker 1: frequently meet with Jaguars players to better understand their experiences
Speaker 1: and concerns. I can only imagine the remainder of emotions
Speaker 1: today in the wake of all that is unfolded in
Speaker 1: I know they are hurting. It also committed to doing
Speaker 1: good in Jacksonville, in the communities where they were raised,
Speaker 1: and will always consider home. Mindful of this, I will
Speaker 1: listen to the players in the days ahead with an
Speaker 1: exceptionally keen ear so we can work with them to
Speaker 1: make the transition from conversation to actionable plans in the
Speaker 1: name of lasting change and quote that's from Jags owner
Speaker 1: shot con and the op ed piece that ran yesterday.
Speaker 1: And if you follow have met or have been around
Speaker 1: or been involved with any capacity shot con, you know
Speaker 1: that those aren't just words on a page. He's gonna
Speaker 1: follow through and and do what he says. He always does.
Speaker 1: Jaguar's senior writer John Osier always does what he says
Speaker 1: as well. He's with us now, John, Good afternoon. First,
Speaker 1: who was the first guest, Tony Tony Vaselli. You might
Speaker 1: have heard of him. Okay, then I've got I've got
Speaker 1: an easy, easy twenty minutes. I can outdo coming good
Speaker 1: good good, Yeah. Yeah. The fat piece I thought, and
Speaker 1: he goes to that saying was you know, fantastic from
Speaker 1: the heart and a fantastic right word, but well thought out.
Speaker 1: And you know, I thought a contrast to maybe a
Speaker 1: lot of things that have been put out that maybe
Speaker 1: a lot of them and if obligatory is the right word,
Speaker 1: but a lot of them said the same thing over
Speaker 1: and over again. And I'm sure that has been the
Speaker 1: hard as well. But Shot just yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: has a more personal story then maybe a lot of
Speaker 1: corporations that have put out statement, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: I think his was clearly uh based on a lot
Speaker 1: of his experience, and as you said, if it's if
Speaker 1: you've been around shot you realize that he's not. I
Speaker 1: don't know how it always comes across when he's had
Speaker 1: a podium JP, but you've been around him when he's told,
Speaker 1: when he talked, and when he he discussed his ideas
Speaker 1: and uh, issues like this are important to him, and uh,
Speaker 1: I think that maybe came across in the outfit he's
Speaker 1: more than maybe it does when he's answering questions in
Speaker 1: front of a camera. Just because he had more time
Speaker 1: and the words, you know, maybe he was able to
Speaker 1: choose them and really think about what he wanted to
Speaker 1: stay in this And I think that's why it sort
Speaker 1: of rang true for a lot of people. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of positive feet or positive a lot of
Speaker 1: feedback from readers saying that it really touched them. John
Speaker 1: Osan was the Jaguars dot Com senior writer and unless
Speaker 1: the other like I just mentioned a second ago, John,
Speaker 1: if he says he's gonna sit down with players and
Speaker 1: figure out the next steps for change and all that
Speaker 1: it's going to happen, Um, yes, what the answer is
Speaker 1: we may not know yet, but all that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Everything that OpEd piece and you know he's gonna follow
Speaker 1: up to a teat Yeah, it really will. And you know,
Speaker 1: and again I think JP being around the team, you
Speaker 1: and I have had opportunity to talk to Shod even
Speaker 1: when we're not holding the microphone. And I don't know
Speaker 1: that I don't know that all fans think maybe some
Speaker 1: fan to have I've got. I've gotten emails over the
Speaker 1: years from people who have met Shot out and who
Speaker 1: he's had conversations with when he's trying to figure things
Speaker 1: out about the jag H. You know, because you don't
Speaker 1: get to his station in life without listening to people.
Speaker 1: And whenever I've had conversations with him about anything, be
Speaker 1: it on the website, be at the nature of my job, whatever. Now,
Speaker 1: when Shod Khan listens JP, he listens to a point
Speaker 1: where it's it's almost intimidating to a degree because he
Speaker 1: is listening to you. And I've been in conversations where
Speaker 1: he does not want to hear, uh what he thinks
Speaker 1: somebody in my position but is way down the line
Speaker 1: of the team is going to quote stay too an owner,
Speaker 1: just to get out of the conversation. That makes any sense.
Speaker 1: I think you've had the same kind of conversations. When
Speaker 1: he asked you a question, he wants an answer that's real,
Speaker 1: that cuts through any cliche or whatever you might call it.
Speaker 1: And you know, I can only imagine I have not
Speaker 1: talked with about this issue, but my guess is when
Speaker 1: he talks to players about this, he is gonna want
Speaker 1: to hear real thing, not what they think he wants
Speaker 1: to hear. Is probably better way of putting it. So
Speaker 1: you know, um, I'm not sure if I'm describing that right,
Speaker 1: and free to sort of help me, I has to
Speaker 1: push me in the right direction. But I've gotten next
Speaker 1: feeling in conversation with shot about thinks before. I've got
Speaker 1: to think that he's bringing that a hundred percent in
Speaker 1: this situation. When he talks to people, he is going
Speaker 1: to want to know what's real, What do you think
Speaker 1: can be done? How can we maybe get that message
Speaker 1: or do something real across? So, uh, yeah, the eight
Speaker 1: hundred words of what ever he wrote yesterday, he's not
Speaker 1: lip service on that Friday. He wants those to be real.
Speaker 1: He wants action to fall and if it's not real,
Speaker 1: it's onto the next conversation. That that's the way his time,
Speaker 1: his timing works. He has to work because if you
Speaker 1: to a point where again it can be intimidating talking
Speaker 1: to us. He is a no nonsense individual, uh, and
Speaker 1: you know it probably goes without saying he's brilliant, So
Speaker 1: when he wants to find out something about an issue,
Speaker 1: you better try to have something to say that as
Speaker 1: the conversation and his radar goes down pretty quick if
Speaker 1: it's not real. So you know, I guess I'm just
Speaker 1: going through all this to try to explain to fan
Speaker 1: and when he talks about stuff like this it is
Speaker 1: not a in one ear out the other situation. He's
Speaker 1: going to try to absorb it and try to turn
Speaker 1: that into action. John Ozan with US Jaguars dot Com
Speaker 1: Senior Writers Jaguars Happy Hour on Thursday, June four. Glad
Speaker 1: you're along with us this afternoon. You know, this is
Speaker 1: obviously this whole offseason, John, is one we've never experienced before.
Speaker 1: Everybody's at home and well, we've experienced that before in
Speaker 1: the lockout, I guess, but um, with the meetings virtually
Speaker 1: and and the way the league has operated over the
Speaker 1: last two to three months, I don't think we've seen that.
Speaker 1: And the question is going to be moving ahead here.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the coaches are allowed back in tomorrow, um,
Speaker 1: and then there's questions whether there will be any on
Speaker 1: field work in the off season program. The feeling I
Speaker 1: guess that we've kind of had is that, how no,
Speaker 1: it's already June, and you know, you'd have to have
Speaker 1: a plan of attack to get those guys back in
Speaker 1: the building, and that's just not a feeling. So add
Speaker 1: this to the mix, and you know, leadership for this
Speaker 1: football team has had to juggle a lot. They're having
Speaker 1: to juggle this as well, which is fine that that's
Speaker 1: the way it should be right now, but that is
Speaker 1: a lot going on without any football happening at all, John,
Speaker 1: It might be the busiest, um, most important office, the
Speaker 1: most important offseason we've had in the well, it's certainly
Speaker 1: strangest and uh the most packed with uh you know,
Speaker 1: you know situations that really uh forced promote you to think.
Speaker 1: You know, COVID obviously made you think about a lot
Speaker 1: of things. Uh, this situation, if you're not thinking about it,
Speaker 1: you know, your tone deaf and you know you're not
Speaker 1: checked in with the world. So uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how to predict what the current unrest
Speaker 1: and how players and the conversations that are going on,
Speaker 1: how that's going to play out. I I am sure
Speaker 1: that they will do something the players the team. I
Speaker 1: say they meaning a journalist covering the team. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt they're gonna do something. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that's going to entail. So if I could talk
Speaker 1: separately in terms of what the football stuff is going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, I can't imagine there being football
Speaker 1: players practicing until training camp. Maybe I'm wrong on that,
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel that way. I think the coaches going
Speaker 1: back is it is probably can be seen more as
Speaker 1: it's a good sign, a good step towards the concept
Speaker 1: of football in the fall. I don't know that much
Speaker 1: is going to change in terms of communication with players
Speaker 1: until they're actually back in the building. You know, I
Speaker 1: think they have I would guess they have figured out
Speaker 1: a way to communicate through Zoom where they feel like
Speaker 1: that is going strongly. Meetings. You know, us as a
Speaker 1: department JP, we've had our meeting. At first, it was
Speaker 1: kind of clunky, and now when we meet, we get
Speaker 1: our information out there and I feel like we're communicating
Speaker 1: I'm sure coaches and players have hit that point, but
Speaker 1: I don't know how much the news the coaches are
Speaker 1: in the building is going to change preparation until the
Speaker 1: players are actually back in the building. So uh, but
Speaker 1: all teams are in the same boat on that front.
Speaker 1: I think one thing that's interesting is Gardner Minshew's leadership,
Speaker 1: the fact that he's reaching out the players. The fact
Speaker 1: that if it's this gardener, but players are talking during
Speaker 1: all this and they're motivated focus. That to me is
Speaker 1: a good sign for the Jaguars And maybe I take
Speaker 1: more from that than anything else right now. Well, they
Speaker 1: need to because there's a lot to learn. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a new offense, a new new regime basically,
Speaker 1: and um, if they don't take take it by the horns,
Speaker 1: and they're not going to take it, they have to
Speaker 1: go do it. You know. It's easy for fans and
Speaker 1: observers think, well that any team would do that, any
Speaker 1: players are going to do that. Yes, But the the
Speaker 1: level to which is teams do it, I think I
Speaker 1: think varies. During the lockout last time you heard reports
Speaker 1: different teams got together out away from the facility on
Speaker 1: different levels. Um, I'm sure not every team. Right now,
Speaker 1: all thirty two are are communicating at the same levels,
Speaker 1: are putting as much in to learn in the offense.
Speaker 1: Maybe some teams don't have as much to do. I'm
Speaker 1: encouraged by the amount that when Gardner and you're different
Speaker 1: players talk. You hear these guys talking about the zoom
Speaker 1: meetings where they're going through plays, where they're calling each
Speaker 1: other afterwards. Um, you know, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: quantify it, but I'd sure rather be hearing that than
Speaker 1: not hearing about it. Dot Com. I'm senior writer. I
Speaker 1: know it's been a different week, so there has not
Speaker 1: been as much written coverage on the site as we
Speaker 1: would normally have. What do you have coming up though
Speaker 1: down the pike here? Well, and to explain it, you
Speaker 1: just said a reason I really didn't writ anything the
Speaker 1: last couple of days on the website. Shod has his
Speaker 1: op ed or or essay. I think it's the department.
Speaker 1: Everybody felt like that's what people should be focused on
Speaker 1: when they come to the site. That's important right now.
Speaker 1: So the decision was, may, hey, we'll back off and
Speaker 1: there will be a time in the next couple of
Speaker 1: days we get back to writing football. So really the
Speaker 1: football things on the site podcast with Peter King on Monday. UM,
Speaker 1: I think anybody who's listening to Peter knows he's very insightful.
Speaker 1: We recorded it before really uh the unrest and the
Speaker 1: issue uh that we're all dealing with with the racism
Speaker 1: really became forefront. So that's not on there. But he
Speaker 1: talked a lot about COVID. He talked a lot about
Speaker 1: what a already what an amazingly complex off season it was.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that would be now. But he
Speaker 1: also had some good things today about Gardner Minshew, about
Speaker 1: the pressure that's facing him about the franchise itself. So
Speaker 1: as you know JP, you know Peter, you've talked to
Speaker 1: him anytime he talks to an issue. It's interesting that
Speaker 1: recommend people to job check that out. It's worth listening
Speaker 1: to check it out. The official podcast network on wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcast, also available on Jaguars dot com.
Speaker 1: The ozone podcast coming up, uh and then from last
Speaker 1: week two. Oh sure, good to talk to you as always,
Speaker 1: but thanks for your time JP. Always we'll talk to anybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you. John O's senior writer Jaguars dot Com, joining
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Speaker 1: dot com senior writer for joining us earlier in the program.
Speaker 1: And we continue in the shot Kohn OpEd that was
Speaker 1: announced released yesterday. We're going through the final few paragraphs
Speaker 1: of that here on the program. The full piece available
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com and other media outlets as well.
Speaker 1: Another excerpt from yesterday quote racial discrimination and no place
Speaker 1: in our society that's been set at, But what's been done?
Speaker 1: We must have the answer today and we'll work with players,
Speaker 1: staff and more to arrive at a timely response because
Speaker 1: this moment, while agonizing, lee similar in any ways, is
Speaker 1: unlike any other in our history for underserved people and
Speaker 1: communities in the United States. We cannot attack the virus
Speaker 1: of racism within difference or periodic attention. We cannot expect
Speaker 1: an easy cure or give up when the quest becomes
Speaker 1: inconvenient or uncomfortable. And quote that's from Shot Khan's op
Speaker 1: ed yesterday on Jaguars dot com. We go to the
Speaker 1: phone now, Jeff Loghman, Jaguars analysts joining us. Jeff, Good afternoon, sir.
Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, Good to talk to you,
Speaker 1: as always, and it's always it's always good to be heard,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Yes, it is. Indeed, Uh,
Speaker 1: we are. It's been quite a week obviously around the NFL,
Speaker 1: but not only there, but around our country with everything
Speaker 1: that is happening currently and has happened and will happen
Speaker 1: in the days and weeks and months ahead. What did
Speaker 1: you make of Mr Khan's op ed yesterday? When you
Speaker 1: read well well said? Uh, certainly uniquely qualified to be
Speaker 1: able to speak on that topic. And I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people have tried to voice their opinion and
Speaker 1: their concerns. But who better to hear from than uh
Speaker 1: dot com who is the minority himself and has had
Speaker 1: to deal with discrimination as a Muslim American and Uh
Speaker 1: I've I read it and I thought it was extremely powerful.
Speaker 1: It is. It certainly is. I think, as we said
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, I think it's the most powerful
Speaker 1: of anything that any of the teams have put out,
Speaker 1: because well, I think the one thing that I liked
Speaker 1: about it and it really spoke, I think, to the
Speaker 1: foundation of what some of the unrest is about, which
Speaker 1: is which is the systematic racism. But also it also
Speaker 1: gave I think a very upfront explanation and that, look,
Speaker 1: there are opportunities that still exist up and I'm living
Speaker 1: an example of that, and that I was helped along
Speaker 1: the way, and so let's not feel that there is
Speaker 1: absolutely no hope, you know. So I think it was
Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of two phone and accomplished
Speaker 1: a couple of different things, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: it was so unique in nature and that it did
Speaker 1: kind of cover multiple areas of what's going on. Jeff
Speaker 1: Lockman with this Jaguars Analyst Jaguars Happy Hour. The reactions
Speaker 1: from players around the National Football League and it's front
Speaker 1: and center of the NFL news right now. You know,
Speaker 1: it was interesting to me the Drew Brees situation that
Speaker 1: happened yesterday the day before his comments came out. Many
Speaker 1: of his teammates came out immediately um on the other
Speaker 1: side of it and against Drew Brees. And since then
Speaker 1: there have been there's been an apology from Breeze and
Speaker 1: the acceptance of the apology by some of those But
Speaker 1: that's just one example of way a comment can go
Speaker 1: one way, and then the entire locker room is is
Speaker 1: kind of on the other side of this thing, or
Speaker 1: is on the other side of this thing. How's this
Speaker 1: going to play in certain locker rooms? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: I think the locker room is very unique, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that would be considered taboo in
Speaker 1: a workplace setting that they're never they're never taboo in
Speaker 1: a locker room. And I think that's what makes an
Speaker 1: NFL locker room so unique. And when players leave the game,
Speaker 1: it's very hard to find something that even that it
Speaker 1: even comes close to them. But uh, to get to
Speaker 1: Drew Brees first and foremost, the video of George Floyd
Speaker 1: getting killed, murdered. It was so powerful and moving, I
Speaker 1: think to a lot of different people. And I don't
Speaker 1: know really the basis where the response on Drew Brees
Speaker 1: came about. Where he started talking about he didn't want
Speaker 1: to disrespect the country in the nation by kneeling for
Speaker 1: the flag, which why in the where are you even
Speaker 1: going there? What does that have to do with anything
Speaker 1: that is going on right now? So Drew Brees stuck
Speaker 1: his foot in his mouth and he deserved every response
Speaker 1: that he got the nature of the question. But clearly
Speaker 1: that shouldn't even have been on his mind or on
Speaker 1: his lips to be spoken. So his teammates will write
Speaker 1: and criticizing him, and Drew Brees was right and trying
Speaker 1: to apologize for some of the some of that commentary.
Speaker 1: And I thought that Karen Jordan's I think spoke very well.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins I thought responded to it, uh in a
Speaker 1: proper way. So I think Drew Brees learned a lot
Speaker 1: and that he's got to be a little bit more
Speaker 1: careful with his words, and especially right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to be careful with your words if you're
Speaker 1: in NU player and UH. But at the same token,
Speaker 1: you also don't want people to be so careful that
Speaker 1: they're not speaking from the heart, because I think when
Speaker 1: you get to the heart of them matter, you want
Speaker 1: people speaking from the heart so people can understand different perspectives.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a challenging time and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people that are very disappointed, as they should be.
Speaker 1: And and I hate to say is sometimes with tragedy
Speaker 1: comes comes I don't want to say reward, but also
Speaker 1: comes change, and uh, you hope that that happens, and
Speaker 1: you hope that the nation can heal and some leadership
Speaker 1: can step up and help all of that happen. And
Speaker 1: the timing of that is just two knows. I mean
Speaker 1: that that that's what we don't have an an answer to,
Speaker 1: but that the progress has started, I believe. And Jeff
Speaker 1: Logman is with US Jaguars analysts a little football talk analogs.
Speaker 1: Coaches are allowed back in the building tomorrow. That's a
Speaker 1: good step in the right direction. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they can do differently that they can't do now in
Speaker 1: the office, but at least they can be at the office.
Speaker 1: That's step one. Yeah, until I heard Tony earlier talking
Speaker 1: about you know, what difference does it make, I mean,
Speaker 1: until you let the players come back, I mean, what
Speaker 1: difference does it really make, you know, letting coaches come back. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it makes a difference, first of all, especially
Speaker 1: when you've got a new offensive staff. You know, the
Speaker 1: ability to communicate in the same room for that offensive
Speaker 1: staff so that people can start to formulate game plans
Speaker 1: and formulate theories on what their offense is gonna look
Speaker 1: like with the staff that's never been together. So I
Speaker 1: think there's great benefits to having the coaches to be
Speaker 1: able to come back to work and to be in
Speaker 1: the same room together, especially for the Jaguars on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, for the for the players themselves.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be anything in the all
Speaker 1: season for anybody, and nor do I think there should be.
Speaker 1: I think the NFL needs to concentrate fully on getting
Speaker 1: teams prepared for the start of training camp and trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what that may look like or what
Speaker 1: it may not look like, and also trying to figure
Speaker 1: out exactly what they want to do to accomplish as
Speaker 1: close to a full season as they can before the
Speaker 1: virus is expected to come back. So, uh, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things to focus on, and all season is
Speaker 1: certainly not one of the for the players. From all
Speaker 1: season activity, I don't think that's really anything to worry about,
Speaker 1: it to be concerned about right now. And then of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, as this summer goes along, the next
Speaker 1: few weeks, month or so, we'll get a clearer picture
Speaker 1: of how that training camp is going to look and
Speaker 1: preseason if there is, and then to the regular season.
Speaker 1: Just a little too early to tell right now. I
Speaker 1: think they've got to get through some calendar before they
Speaker 1: even start making moves on that front. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's Look, this is a whole different the head of
Speaker 1: parameters to be dealing with from an Nimhealth Teams perspective,
Speaker 1: and much like what we're talking about with some of
Speaker 1: the things going on in our society. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are happening that haven't happened,
Speaker 1: aren't aren't part of you know, this time of year
Speaker 1: with the national pandemic, worldwide pandemic going on at the
Speaker 1: same time, and boy, you talk about challenges for for everybody,
Speaker 1: and h this is certainly a challenging year for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. I don't remember. I mean, I've been
Speaker 1: in the leagues, with my ninth season in the league,
Speaker 1: but I've watched the league obviously over the years. You've
Speaker 1: been around it longer than I have. That I don't remember.
Speaker 1: At more. Let's call it tumultuous off season, considering there's
Speaker 1: no football going on, right, I mean everything that happ no, no,
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing that's even come close to it, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean when you're talking about worldwide pandemic and and
Speaker 1: you have where we're at now with Holy Kel, I
Speaker 1: mean the killing of George Boyd. And here here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. Why why weren't these other officers charged as well?
Speaker 1: They had to have them. They have been good, they
Speaker 1: have been since then. Hon't anybody stand by and sit
Speaker 1: there and watch what happened? I mean, that's to me
Speaker 1: that that is completely baffling. How anybody would stand by
Speaker 1: and sit there and accept what happened, or to sit
Speaker 1: there and allow that to happen. I don't understand that. Right,
Speaker 1: So the others have been since charged. The last day
Speaker 1: or two, I think that the charges have changed, and
Speaker 1: then up the charge to murder too charged for the
Speaker 1: lead officer in that situation. So with that combined the
Speaker 1: unrest that has followed that around the country, around the NFL,
Speaker 1: this is uncharted water, sure, And I think we're only
Speaker 1: just beginning logs, which is we said that about two
Speaker 1: months ago too, I think, so, I mean it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, everything is in the category right now. And
Speaker 1: to try to comment on me, you can only speculate.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a there's a lot of different things
Speaker 1: that are in our life that we're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out right now. I mean a lot of things that
Speaker 1: are unknown for a lot of people, you know, from
Speaker 1: from a work standpoint to a schooling standpoint, to a
Speaker 1: societal standpoint to a sports standpoint. The list goes on
Speaker 1: and on of issues that families in America are dealing with,
Speaker 1: and some are dealing with more than others. And it
Speaker 1: makes Corn Corney certainly a year that well hard to
Speaker 1: be forgotten, that's for sure. You get that, right. We're
Speaker 1: only June four, so we got a lot of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty left to go here. Likes, Hey, good stuff, man,
Speaker 1: Gonna talk to you as always. Appreciate your time, all right,
Speaker 1: j P. Good talking with you, and look forward to
Speaker 1: the point where me and and Bow and Joe and
Speaker 1: maybe even Johnny O Shirk can all be in the
Speaker 1: same room together and we can have a handshake and
Speaker 1: a cold ice Coca Cola unsweet and nice tea, of
Speaker 1: course is what we'll have. Absolutely, that's right. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to you soon. Jeff Jeff Logman, Jaguars analyst with US
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Speaker 1: it has been quite a week around the National Football
Speaker 1: League with everything that has happened, the response after the
Speaker 1: George Floyd situation in Milwaukee, and that has moved into
Speaker 1: cities around the country and of course around the National
Speaker 1: Football League as well. We've we mentioned the Drew brees
Speaker 1: A situation in New Orleans, some of his comments and
Speaker 1: the reaction to those comments Since then, Breeze is issues
Speaker 1: in apology and some of those players who came out
Speaker 1: publicly in response to Breeze originally have said they have
Speaker 1: accepted it. The conversation continues down in New Orleans. That's
Speaker 1: really has been the biggest over the last couple of
Speaker 1: days around the NFL, the biggest response reaction, at least
Speaker 1: in my opinion, to what has happened. The Union apparently
Speaker 1: is updating players today on getting back to work at
Speaker 1: team facilities in a video conference that should be ongoing
Speaker 1: about right now. The the Player Association. We'll update players
Speaker 1: on the discussions of reopening facilities and a return to
Speaker 1: football activity at some point. When that is, uh, nobody
Speaker 1: really knows, and there's the feeling that it might not
Speaker 1: be until training camp. And it's June four currently, so
Speaker 1: training camp is late July on the calendar. That's a
Speaker 1: long time between now and then for a lot of
Speaker 1: things to happen, So we shall see. Those are the
Speaker 1: biggest news from around the National Football League. You've heard
Speaker 1: off to the side if you you're following football and
Speaker 1: college football, especially some colleges trying to get back and
Speaker 1: get players back at some point. Well, today, apparently a
Speaker 1: report came out that five Alabama players tested positive for
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen after workouts they were working out as a
Speaker 1: group together. The workout included nearly fifty players. They were
Speaker 1: tested Tuesday, they practiced together on Wednesday, and they got
Speaker 1: the results. Apparently today. Voluntary workouts start on June eight,
Speaker 1: officially in the Southeastern Conference, So that's something to watch um,
Speaker 1: with large groups of players starting to gather on their
Speaker 1: own ahead of that time. How that response happens and
Speaker 1: and how those groups settings happened. Um, we'll see if
Speaker 1: the league has any follow to their response in the
Speaker 1: Southeastern Conference. Those are some of the biggest storylines from
Speaker 1: around the NFL. Of course, three cheers this week, and
Speaker 1: you know what, let's give it out to the people
Speaker 1: here in the city of Jacksonville UM. After a little
Speaker 1: bit of unrest on Saturday downtown UM, which didn't go
Speaker 1: too far. It did go too far, but it didn't
Speaker 1: go for too long. Let's say, it was shut down
Speaker 1: pretty quickly by the j s O. Since then, at
Speaker 1: least as far as I know, everything has been peaceful,
Speaker 1: everything has been organized and has gone the right way.
Speaker 1: There was a march in San Marco last night, not
Speaker 1: far from the house here, and by all accounts that
Speaker 1: went fantastic with thousands of people involved, marching from south
Speaker 1: Side Park behind the library, through San Marco Square and
Speaker 1: back UM and it went very well. And that is
Speaker 1: that's that's a great sign. So three cheers this week
Speaker 1: to the people here in the city of Jacksonville who
Speaker 1: are exercising their right to get out and protest, and
Speaker 1: they should and they've they've done a great job of it.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it up here in the city of Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Interested to see what's ahead for the Jacksonville Jaguars. It
Speaker 1: is still the off season program meetings are happening online.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this has been a topic of conversation in
Speaker 1: those meetings between the team, coaching staff and all of that.
Speaker 1: We saw Shot Khan's op ed this week, and as
Speaker 1: we said earlier in the show, everything that was said
Speaker 1: in that, if you know Mr Khan will happen. So
Speaker 1: what does the organization as a whole do next? Will
Speaker 1: there be something publicly we'll see? I'm I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: shocked by that at all, and uh, it's certainly possible, man,
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't be surprised at that in the least.
Speaker 1: So thank you for joining us today. That'll do it
Speaker 1: for our programmer, Thanks to Tony was Selling, John Osier
Speaker 1: and Jeff Lockman. For everyone involved, I'm JP Shadrick. We
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