WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, June 4 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.200 Jaguars owner Shot Con part of the ed piece that 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.760 ran yesterday. Let's go to the phone line now and 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.680 welcome in Prid of the Jaguars left tackle Tony Basel A. Tony, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:11.639 it's been a little bit good afternoon. How are you. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.680 I'm doing good. I'm good to talk to you again. UM. Yeah, 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:18.919 it's always good to talk to you, my friend, Same 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.439 to you. Um, things have have changed a bit since 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:28.000 we've spoken the last couple of weeks. It is, Um, 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:32.320 everything is front and center nationally, and it should be that. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.760 That's the way things have been, especially the last week 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.839 or so. And now you're seeing teams around the NFL 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.120 start to make statements. You're seeing players around the National 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.200 Football League going out on their social media pages or 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.560 are going out in the communities where they reside and 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:52.279 and marching and protesting and whatever they feel necessary. Um, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.040 this is obviously the number one storyline, not only in 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.080 the NFL right now, but in our country. And I 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.320 don't think and our generation, certainly my generation, you're not 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.360 that much older than I am. We haven't seen anything 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:10.559 close to this type of response for something like this. Well, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.959 I mean, the closest reminds me of when I was 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.160 at USC and the l a riot. That's Rodney King 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:23.479 uh uh uh police brutality that ended up the riots 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.040 actually broke out after the police officers were let off 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.680 and found innocent. UM, and the city basically was in 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.840 chaos for several days. National guards we brought in. So 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.440 this is very similar. That the difference is while that 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.000 had sprinklings and other communities around the country, it was 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:46.080 largely contained the Los Angeles. UM. This has gone nationwide. UM, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.880 there's a national response. UM. And by the way, there 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:55.440 should be. UM. It's enough and enough. You cannot, um 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.240 what happened to George Floyd Uh is you know cannot 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:04.200 happen our country. UM. Now listen. UH probably the first 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.720 to tell you that the vast majority of police officers 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.519 are greating beings that do an amazing job to serve 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.680 and protect our community. But that's unfortunately, that's not the 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.920 story that we're talking about right now. We shouldn't be. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.480 It's the it's the abuse of power. UM. It's it's 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:25.680 being done to a uh, an African American man who UM. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.760 Regardless of if you want to argue with as if 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.640 there was a non violent crime or not. I don't 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.840 care what it was he did not and that you know, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.120 and there's a time and this time now that we 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:39.560 as a country come together, Um, we listened to each other. UM, 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.480 we have empathy for each other. Um, and we start 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.640 trying to figure out how to move forward in a 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.679 positive way. And uh. And I think that's what these 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.639 protests are about. And its people saying enough enough, and 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.400 we're not going to stand by and allow this to 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.160 happen any longer. Is Pride of the Jaguars left tackling that? 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.440 That's gonna going to be the challenge. I think everybody 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.399 wants answers, They want change, and they want it now. Well, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.840 it's not gonna be now. It's going to be in time, 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.320 and there's no answer to win. The time frame will 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.839 be when there's change and answers. I mean, that's that's 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.839 the real difficult part of what's going on right now. Um. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.720 But this is the beginning of that. Where the end 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.080 is we don't really know well in this I mean 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.080 in our country. This is something that started, you know, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.320 hundreds and hundreds of years ago, generations and generations ago, 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:35.000 and has it improved over the years, especially since the 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.480 civil rights movement led by Martin Luther King Jr. Absolutely, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.160 it's improved, but it's not where it needs to be. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:45.000 And we took a step backwards and what we saw 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.920 and and that's not okay. And so we need need 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.880 to get it needs to be a conscious effort of 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:56.800 everybody to work together to UM make sure that people 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.400 are treated equally. Uh, there's equity in the system. UM 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:05.400 and that UH never should a human being be judged 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.000 or be treated differently because of the color of their skin. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.480 And I said this, I said a couple of times 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.880 now there's like no place in our world, our country. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.360 So where about our country where we live. UM, like 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.520 anyone thinks they're better than somebody else because of their 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.080 skin color is It's just ridiculous to me. And that's 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.839 there's no place for that. And we need to rid that. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.120 And it starts by number one. It starts by leaders 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.120 UM in the community, which the NFL teams are in, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.400 NFL players are and owners aren't, coaches aren't making statements 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.320 and making sure that when we everyone goes there a part. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.920 It also starts in the home of mothers and fathers 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.480 of communicating their kids. I mean, I know I've had 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.680 very serious conversations with my children. UM, we've always started 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.159 to raise them the right way and the understanding, the 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.760 respect everybody, even if they you know, no matter how 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.760 they look, and even if they disagree with them, and 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.080 that you might have a disagreement of a major issue 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.200 doesn't mean to say you should respect them any less 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.440 or treat them less or anything else. That we are 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.839 to love and treat everyone who respect UM. And and 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.720 and so those are the conversations we need to be 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.800 having as fathers and mothers with our because that's where 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.839 it starts, and that's where the change starts. And obviously 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.000 there needs to be I mean, people smarter than you 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.040 and I JP need to be looking at the whole system. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.800 You know, the legal system. I mean you know what legislation, legislator, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.880 legislative changes can we make, UM to make sure it's 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.800 equitable for all, UM. But for us as leaders in 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.360 our homes and our communities and businesses and football teams, 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:48.040 it's about having honest, open communications, listening to each other, UM, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.480 trying to walk in each other's shoes. And that's very difficult. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.960 Like I cannot comprehend what it means to be a 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.760 black man because I'm not and that's okay. But I 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.440 can have compassion and I can listen and try to 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.120 understand and uh, and that's what it's gonna take. And 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.680 it's a long road. I mean, this is not a 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.280 quick fix. This is not something that you wake up 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.120 and it's just over and everything's fine. Um. And I 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.080 think what you have to do, you have to see 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.400 change and needs have to see progress of us going 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.440 in the right direction as a community. Tony Baselli with 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.640 US Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shatrick with you as well. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.680 It's Thursday, June four. Um. The the op ed piece 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.560 from shot Con there. We we just read a snippet 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.120 of it. The full piece available on Jaguars dot com 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.159 and some other media outlets. You know, he goes through 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.160 his background coming into the United States, what he's seen 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.919 through his own eyes, and then the next step. I 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.599 think that made that totally different from any other team's 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:51.279 announcements is what steps he's trying to figure out to 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.679 move forward on this thing. And you know he's something's 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.239 going to happen with Mr Connie's gonna talk with the players, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.520 he said, and see what they want to do as 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.880 a as a group. I think with with him anything, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.200 anytime he says something's going to happen, it's going to happen. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.240 It's just a matter of figure out what the next 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:14.160 step is. I found the piece very thoughtful, um, in depth, 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.320 and the best one I think that that we've seen 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.280 from any team in the NFL. Well, listen, we all 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.320 have you know, we're all shaped from where we come 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.440 from and in the families we were raised, in the 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.920 communities we were raised in it. And I'll tell you 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.800 one of the great things. We digressed for a second. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.920 But I love about professional football and being an athlete 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.640 that I was exposed and around and we're closely with 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.040 people who came from different places tonight it and we're 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.680 raised differently and and experienced different culture. To me, I 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.360 love that that's refreshing, the like I like being around 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.480 different people and experience in trying to understand it and 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.360 in learning about me and me learning about them, because 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.240 we're all we're all different, I mean, and who would 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.720 want it any other way? Like who wants to all 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.200 be the same? That's boring, um, And so I mean. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.080 I told the story of going to USC from Boulder, Colorado, 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.520 where my high school had a handful of African American 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:12.520 students to USC in the middle of that, just outside 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.480 downtown Los Angeles, in a locker room of a college 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.840 football team with a majority of the people are African Americans, 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.520 and to learn and to experience that and be around 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.200 it in the community I lived in UH where USC 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.560 is located. I thought it was fascinating. I learned so 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.600 much that I grew and I loved it. And it 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.600 goes throughout the NFL. We learned to work together and 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.640 to understand each other and respect each other. UM. And 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.480 I say all that because the statement that Sean Khan 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:42.960 made is shaped by his experience as a UH coming 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.600 from Pakistan, as a young man, as a Muslim American. UM. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.000 I mean you think back being a Muslim around UH 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.240 nine eleven, how difficult that was, in the strain and 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.600 the and the Biggot three that we saw happen, And 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.160 because the people being afraid and scared and and everything else. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.120 Because that's where that a lot of that comes from 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.719 a lot of times, his fear of the unknown and 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.199 being scared, and and for the way that he has 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.400 responded in the way that he has found UM a 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:17.600 pathway to be just uber successful. UM is one great 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:22.559 you know story and TESTI money, but also about UM 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:26.840 his passion around of making sure that there is equality 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.800 and there is equity in the system. And and you're right, 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.600 I have little doubt that dot com will put his 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.400 energy and his resources and the old saying his money 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.600 where you know his mouth is because of what he said, 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.040 because that's who he is and that's how I mean 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.560 he is UM. I can only imagine what he has 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.600 gone through and seen it's coming over here at sixteen 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.079 years of age with not much in his back pocket 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.880 as a student, and to work his way through and 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.120 all the different challenges as you know, coming from another 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.760 another country in a Muslim American. All the things you 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.640 talked about, the challenges and what he has overcome has 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.599 shaped him and that's why it's so powerful and I 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.280 think it'll be it would be very powerful what he 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.080 will do UM. And I thought the op ed was powerful. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.080 Tony Boselli with us, let's talk a little ball Tony 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.440 UM coaching and you know that's that's kind of back 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.000 of mind for everybody this week, everything going on. But JP, 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.120 I think that it's back of mind for multiple reasons. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.320 We had I mean, obviously because with four for you know, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.360 in the forefront and should be is what has happened 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.240 and the awakening that it has caused in all of us, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.640 and because I think it's easy for a lot of 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.520 us to take it for granted because we don't experience that, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.679 and not because you know, we want to or we 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.120 feel that's okay or anything else. Just you know, life 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.360 goes fast and you forget about and this is like 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.319 a shock of the system and it's shocking that it 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.920 happened and it's shocking that it can happen in our country. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.880 So that kind of takes the forefront. But even more 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.360 than ever because of the pandemic in the coronavirus, football 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.079 has been so secondary outside that short weekend of the 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.640 draft where we kind of gotta live like everything was normal, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.559 even though it's virtually even you know, football has kind 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.120 of been how do we do it in spite of 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.760 the coronavirus. Well, now you have this other, you know, 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.560 the national story around what we're dealing with and what 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.360 we should be dealing with, and so it's hard because 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.520 you're still not gonna know, you're gonna talk about this. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:31.080 Players are still not coming in it's just coaches. UM. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.719 My big question Doug and everyone, like what do you 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.760 even do? Like why are you coming in? Why can't 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.120 you just do it at your house? I mean it's zoom. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.320 You have all the technology or whatever technology, Microsoft Team, 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.600 whatever you may use. Um, I wonder what is the 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.959 purpose of coming in as the staff if your players 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.600 can't be there? Apparently the league is allowing up to 0:11:54.720 --> 0:12:01.120 one people in each facility starting tomorrow. No, no, no players. UM, 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.240 that's my point. So what's the purpose? I guess my 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.600 question would be because you know, I'll just like even 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.680 to my job often working in healthcare, I mean, what's 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.719 the technology today in this world? I'm just as productive, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.640 maybe more productive, because you're not wasting time, you know, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:24.560 shooting the breeze the fellas in the in the office. Um, 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.840 because you're just grinding one meeting to the next. And 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.679 I imagine that there's a the level of productivity did 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:35.480 not drop because coaches were at home. Um, that would 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.200 be my guests, and so I'd love to be great 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.320 to sit down with with Dave and Duck to find out, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.800 you know, what what this looked like and how is 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.679 their productivity compared to a normal year. Well. Doug sat 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.200 in a conference called last week that the the the 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.520 happiest folks to hear that they're going back to work 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:58.920 is yeah, that's true. Now that maybe that's why they 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.480 should leave, just the all them, I mean to their 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.800 relationships and their families. I know my family will be 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.560 just fine and happy when I can get back on 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.600 a plane and travel again, no doubt. Um. Tony, Hey, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.040 good stuff man. Good to talk to you as always, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.640 and thanks for the insight and the commentary today. We 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.679 appreciate j Thanks, it's good to come on it. I 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.480 do miss seeing everybody. That's one thing. Would be fun 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.040 to get back down there and to see everyone. And 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.559 obviously I know you're no different. You know we need 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:30.959 to be you know, praying about praying for our beauties 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:36.240 and being active and communicating and uh and uh and 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.599 making sure we listened during this time and try to 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.920 make real change. Tony, great stuff. We'll talk to you 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.240 again soon, all right, JP T all right. Tony Boselli, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.360 proud of the Jaguars left tackle, joining us here on 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.120 the program Jaguars Happy Hour. Time now for the community, Spotlight, 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.120 Hungary and pen giving away one thousand pounds of rice 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.240 to those in need. 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We continue away from t I 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:22.560 A A bank Field, the last show at t I 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.880 A bank Field let's see, let's pull out the calendar 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:30.960 was March nineteen. It's been a while. Thank you for 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.600 sticking with us through these times. All dailies and Dailies 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.639 Dash locations are open and operating under normal hours. Pick 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.119 up a fresh may do order, sub or sandwich from 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.160 Daily's Dash to we continue breaking down the shot Khan 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.560 op ed that ran yesterday in different media outlets and 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.600 on Jaguars dot com of course through the Jaguars PR department. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.119 Second part we'll get to here. Quote in Jacksonville, I 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.560 frequently meet with Jaguars players to better understand their experiences 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.480 and concerns. I can only imagine the remainder of emotions 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.280 today in the wake of all that is unfolded in 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.680 I know they are hurting. It also committed to doing 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.000 good in Jacksonville, in the communities where they were raised, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.200 and will always consider home. Mindful of this, I will 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.000 listen to the players in the days ahead with an 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.680 exceptionally keen ear so we can work with them to 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.760 make the transition from conversation to actionable plans in the 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.680 name of lasting change and quote that's from Jags owner 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.560 shot con and the op ed piece that ran yesterday. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:30.160 And if you follow have met or have been around 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.359 or been involved with any capacity shot con, you know 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.560 that those aren't just words on a page. He's gonna 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.440 follow through and and do what he says. He always does. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.600 Jaguar's senior writer John Osier always does what he says 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:50.159 as well. He's with us now, John, Good afternoon. First, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.679 who was the first guest, Tony Tony Vaselli. You might 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.280 have heard of him. Okay, then I've got I've got 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:03.480 an easy, easy twenty minutes. I can outdo coming good 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:11.520 good good, Yeah. Yeah. The fat piece I thought, and 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.879 he goes to that saying was you know, fantastic from 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.160 the heart and a fantastic right word, but well thought out. 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:22.800 And you know, I thought a contrast to maybe a 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:27.080 lot of things that have been put out that maybe 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:31.200 a lot of them and if obligatory is the right word, 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:32.800 but a lot of them said the same thing over 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.520 and over again. And I'm sure that has been the 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:40.239 hard as well. But Shot just yeah, I think he 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:44.679 has a more personal story then maybe a lot of 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.720 corporations that have put out statement, if that makes any sense. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:51.920 I think his was clearly uh based on a lot 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:56.080 of his experience, and as you said, if it's if 0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:02.000 you've been around shot you realize that he's not. I 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.399 don't know how it always comes across when he's had 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.840 a podium JP, but you've been around him when he's told, 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.600 when he talked, and when he he discussed his ideas 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:16.480 and uh, issues like this are important to him, and uh, 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.920 I think that maybe came across in the outfit he's 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.600 more than maybe it does when he's answering questions in 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:29.080 front of a camera. Just because he had more time 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.919 and the words, you know, maybe he was able to 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:35.919 choose them and really think about what he wanted to 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.240 stay in this And I think that's why it sort 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:39.679 of rang true for a lot of people. I got 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.359 a lot of positive feet or positive a lot of 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:46.440 feedback from readers saying that it really touched them. John 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.200 Osan was the Jaguars dot Com senior writer and unless 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.639 the other like I just mentioned a second ago, John, 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.240 if he says he's gonna sit down with players and 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:58.160 figure out the next steps for change and all that 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.280 it's going to happen, Um, yes, what the answer is 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.639 we may not know yet, but all that's going to happen. 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.160 Everything that OpEd piece and you know he's gonna follow 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.359 up to a teat Yeah, it really will. And you know, 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.720 and again I think JP being around the team, you 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:19.240 and I have had opportunity to talk to Shod even 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.240 when we're not holding the microphone. And I don't know 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.320 that I don't know that all fans think maybe some 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.720 fan to have I've got. I've gotten emails over the 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:31.640 years from people who have met Shot out and who 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.040 he's had conversations with when he's trying to figure things 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:39.200 out about the jag H. You know, because you don't 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:43.919 get to his station in life without listening to people. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:48.879 And whenever I've had conversations with him about anything, be 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:53.760