Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave
Speaker 1: Pash Podcast. I'm your host Arizona Cardinals an ESPN announcer
Speaker 1: Dave Pash. My guest this week is Jason Light, who
Speaker 1: is the general manager for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and
Speaker 1: a former executive with the Arizona Cardinals. We cover a
Speaker 1: lot of subjects. Most importantly for a lot of nfhealth fans,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. We talk about his return, whether Jason was
Speaker 1: concerned at all about when Tom wasn't there during camp,
Speaker 1: when he first thought Brady was coming back after his
Speaker 1: January retirement. The first time I got an inkling that
Speaker 1: this might not be forever retirement was from text sent
Speaker 1: to me during the Super Bowl, and you could just
Speaker 1: feel that the fire was still there. And that was
Speaker 1: when I told my wife, I said, I don't think
Speaker 1: this is over. Also Gronk's future, Jason's time with the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: what he learned from Steve Kim, and much more. We
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Speaker 1: hundred Next step. Now. When you first hear our interview,
Speaker 1: you might wonder why I'm talking about a steak dinner
Speaker 1: with Jason. Well, here's the inside story. Jason texted Wolf
Speaker 1: and I during a telecast in the preseason a year
Speaker 1: ago after the Buccaneers had won the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: Jason said, Hey, if you can work into the telecast,
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with Steve Kim, I'll buy you a
Speaker 1: steak dinner. Now. I get a lot of requests from
Speaker 1: people texting or in person, sometimes players saying, Hey, it's
Speaker 1: my mother's birthday, can you give her a shout out?
Speaker 1: You discern, okay, what's going to serve the viewer and
Speaker 1: what's not. So normally you say sorry, we can't really
Speaker 1: do that, But in this case, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: preseason game, the Buccaneers had won the Super Bowl. We
Speaker 1: can tie this into the Cardinals, and we'll also get
Speaker 1: a stake dinner out of it. We made it happen.
Speaker 1: So we tell our producer, Hey, when we come back
Speaker 1: from break, give us a shot of Michael Bidwill and
Speaker 1: Steve Kinne. So we come out of break and again,
Speaker 1: this is about a minute after we got the text
Speaker 1: from Jason. We come out of break and I say,
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell, Cardinals owner, Steve Kine, the general manager. Steve
Speaker 1: has had so much success as a GM, and he's
Speaker 1: also had some people under him that have gone on
Speaker 1: to have success, like Jason Light who's now the GM
Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Congrats to Jason and the
Speaker 1: Bucks on winning the Super Bowl. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Jason and Steve are still close friends today. And within
Speaker 1: about five seconds, I get a text from Jason saint
Speaker 1: darn it because he knew he had just lost out
Speaker 1: on a steake dinner. But the statute of limitations has passed.
Speaker 1: We're a year after that. So I guilted Jason into
Speaker 1: coming on the podcast instead of the steak dinner. So
Speaker 1: here he is Tampa Bay Buccaneers General Manager Jason l Well. Jason,
Speaker 1: while I would have loved to have had this conversation
Speaker 1: with the over a steak dinner. I'm good with this man.
Speaker 1: Just catching up with you is great. How you been, brother,
Speaker 1: I've been good. How about you? I'm good, man, Camp's been.
Speaker 1: You can rehatch it over a steak dinner. Sounds good. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: at some point like our paths are going to cross again.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll have maybe a college football
Speaker 1: game in Tampa, but maybe when you're here over Christmas
Speaker 1: or something, we'll hook up. Sounds good. You know, of
Speaker 1: all the guys, you're one of my favorites of the
Speaker 1: guys that have come through here, and I'm so happy
Speaker 1: for your success. And I'm curious, Jason, as you look back,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been you've been the GM now in
Speaker 1: Tampa since twenty fourteen, But as you think back to
Speaker 1: your time in Arizona, and I know you were here
Speaker 1: for two stints, but in particular the second time that
Speaker 1: you were here, what are some of your biggest takeaways
Speaker 1: from working with Steve Kime and working here with the
Speaker 1: Cardinals that helped you prepare to run the team in Tampa.
Speaker 1: There's a lot, I would say, I reflect on this
Speaker 1: a lot, and we I talked this, you know, talked
Speaker 1: to a lot of my people about this that asked
Speaker 1: the question. And I was, you know, fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: be with some really good organizations the Patriots twice, the
Speaker 1: Eagles and being two of the teams and had a
Speaker 1: lot of success. Those teams had a lot of success.
Speaker 1: So I was able to see how those good teams
Speaker 1: were built and you know, how they were managed and
Speaker 1: coached and all those things, and worked with some great people,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, I mean, just to name a couple,
Speaker 1: but I would say that what prepared me the most
Speaker 1: for this position was working for Steve and seeing how
Speaker 1: he was afforded. I was afforded the luxury just based
Speaker 1: on our relationship and he's still one of my closest friends.
Speaker 1: Of getting a front row seat to all of the
Speaker 1: things that go on behind the scenes and how things
Speaker 1: are handled, and that's what that's what gms aren't ready for.
Speaker 1: In most cases. You we we spend our career either
Speaker 1: on the road or in the office evaluating players. And
Speaker 1: in my case and in terms of you know, going
Speaker 1: to getting the GM job based on my coming up
Speaker 1: through the scouting routes and you know, you you evaluate players.
Speaker 1: You're right before it. So you have the meetings, you
Speaker 1: stand on the table for certain players and um, you know,
Speaker 1: you say stay away from certain players. But and that's
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that's the easy part. That
Speaker 1: certainly isn't easy, but that's what I was trained to do.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trained to deal with the injuries and the
Speaker 1: relationships and the you know, some off field things that
Speaker 1: come up with every team and with Steve and him
Speaker 1: allowing me to be there in the room with him
Speaker 1: when these things were discussed on how we're going to
Speaker 1: handle them with pr things like that with Mark Dalton,
Speaker 1: who I think is one of the best in the league.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I would have been I
Speaker 1: don't think it would have been a very smooth situation
Speaker 1: for me. And now it wasn't smooth the first here
Speaker 1: for me either, But I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: have gotten through these times, those times, those rough times
Speaker 1: without that experience with Steve. Well. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I think Steve is really good at that maybe
Speaker 1: fans don't see, and I think you're the same way,
Speaker 1: is look player evaluation, putting together a roster winning games.
Speaker 1: Obviously that's what matters most, and that's what the fans see.
Speaker 1: But building relationships goes a long way to getting deals done,
Speaker 1: to finding out information that maybe other Scouts or gems
Speaker 1: may not be able to get from certain people. How
Speaker 1: do you think your ability to deal with people helps
Speaker 1: you be a good GM. I think it's of the
Speaker 1: utmost importance. I've always liked people in general, liked having relationships,
Speaker 1: building relationships, keeping relationships. And Steve is one of the
Speaker 1: best I've ever been around. And he's just got a knack.
Speaker 1: Everybody feels like they've been a close friend or compident
Speaker 1: of Steve their entire life, even if they he meets
Speaker 1: them for the first time. And I've taken a lot
Speaker 1: that's rubbed off on me a little bit my times
Speaker 1: with him. He he would always say, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's not always the excess and O's, it's the Jimmy's
Speaker 1: and Joe's and and He's right. You You you want talent,
Speaker 1: you want to bring in the best talent you can,
Speaker 1: but you also want people that um are able to
Speaker 1: communicate and able to get along with everybody. And you know,
Speaker 1: one team one causes Ba's was BEA's one of his
Speaker 1: expressions that he used all the time, and Steve is
Speaker 1: just a phenomenal people person, and I felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: we were naturally attracted to each other's friends because we
Speaker 1: both have that quality, I think, And that's not patting
Speaker 1: myself on the back. I just think we both like
Speaker 1: generally like people and getting through rough waters. It's all
Speaker 1: about relationships. This is a relationship business, just like any
Speaker 1: other business. And Jason, I'm not asking you to pat
Speaker 1: yourself on the back with this question, but I am curious.
Speaker 1: Is there somebody that you look back on your time
Speaker 1: here in Arizona and you mentioned, you know, the metaphor
Speaker 1: of standing on the table for a guy. Is there
Speaker 1: somebody that's having success now with the Cardinals that you
Speaker 1: were really bullish about at the time and had to
Speaker 1: stand on the table for, so to speak. Well, that's
Speaker 1: always that's always a tough question to answer for this
Speaker 1: reason that we all have our ideas and suggestions and
Speaker 1: and players that we that we like and we want
Speaker 1: to stand on the table or we stand on the
Speaker 1: table four But at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: it's the GM that pulls that card off the board,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's it's it's a team. It's teamwork,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a we all work together to
Speaker 1: to to make the decision and build the board the
Speaker 1: right way, but it's always the GM that to make
Speaker 1: the final call. And in that in that case back then,
Speaker 1: Steve obviously, So to take credit for someone it's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit uh, it gets a it's a little
Speaker 1: bit muddy, um because you know I could have stood
Speaker 1: on the table. You know, Steve was He and I
Speaker 1: saw eye to eye on most players, and I mean
Speaker 1: really liked Tyr and Matthew and Um. I sat in
Speaker 1: Steve's office and we watched a ton of tape on
Speaker 1: Tyrn and and and he at the time i'd been
Speaker 1: in their earth at LSU, and we watched it together
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, you're right, you know,
Speaker 1: just heaving player. He would have come up with that,
Speaker 1: that would he would have come to that buy on
Speaker 1: his own, I'm sure at some point. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say that, you know, I stood on
Speaker 1: the table. This is I'm the reason that these particular
Speaker 1: players are there, if you know what I'm saying. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: well enough on your past job here with Arizona, let's
Speaker 1: talk about your current position, Jason and your team, the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously, the big story the last few
Speaker 1: days has been Tom Brady's absince Tom was back at
Speaker 1: practice today. Let me take a wild guess. He looked
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady? Am I right? Yeah? All was good
Speaker 1: again today the Waters were home. In a situation like
Speaker 1: that where a player the caliber of Tom Brady that
Speaker 1: you've had a relationship with for two decades is missing
Speaker 1: time for personal reasons, I have to think and tell
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong that it's a matter of trust,
Speaker 1: Like you know, Tom's going to bring it week one,
Speaker 1: regardless of time missed. Well, there's no question he's I
Speaker 1: have never been around a player that prepares as conscientiously,
Speaker 1: diligently and does it the right way then Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: And you know he was gone for whatever it was
Speaker 1: eleven days. I know he was preparing in those eleven
Speaker 1: days as well, So it a total trust with him.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's obviously it's great to have him
Speaker 1: back in the building. The vibe picks up even more
Speaker 1: when he's gone. But the foundation that he's set already
Speaker 1: then you know in the last two years that we've
Speaker 1: been with that he's been with us, it carries over
Speaker 1: whenever he's done. That was one of the things that
Speaker 1: we talked about before we signed him and for agency
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty was however long he plays, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: whatever breaths, his presence is going to be sold for
Speaker 1: a long time just because of the standard that he sets.
Speaker 1: You want a Super Bowl as part of the Patriots
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady in two thousand and two, and then
Speaker 1: you're also there back with the Patriots two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine to two eleven. Has Tom changed much at all
Speaker 1: being around him now compared to his early years in
Speaker 1: the NFL? Or is he at the core the same guy?
Speaker 1: I think you've gotten better looked in and I think
Speaker 1: that he's actually a stronger arm. But it's amazing. I mean,
Speaker 1: look what he's done. The story obviously, in terms of
Speaker 1: the greatest stories in the history of the NFL, it's
Speaker 1: at the top of the list. And then you know,
Speaker 1: after the playoff loss to the Rams, Tom decides to
Speaker 1: retire for the time being. How much were you and
Speaker 1: Tom in conversation during his retirement and talking about the
Speaker 1: possibility of coming back we first time, well we we
Speaker 1: had sent text back and forth because we do have
Speaker 1: a good relationship. He did the same thing with Beau,
Speaker 1: kept in touch. The first time I got an inkling
Speaker 1: that this might not be forever retirement was some text
Speaker 1: sent to me during the Super Bowl and you could
Speaker 1: just feel that he was the fire was still there,
Speaker 1: that he wishes that he was playing in that game,
Speaker 1: and you know, he always feels like he could beat
Speaker 1: any team, so you know, I could just feel the fire.
Speaker 1: And that was when I pulled Blair my wife. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is over. So really it was
Speaker 1: a matter of weeks then, because that that loss was
Speaker 1: what towards the end of January. So a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks passes and not surprising based on his competitive nature's
Speaker 1: he's ready to come back to you guys. I'm also
Speaker 1: curious about Todd Bowles, who everybody here in Arizona knows
Speaker 1: from his time here, and you were here during some
Speaker 1: of the those years when Todd was a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: How long did it take you, guys to make that
Speaker 1: decision once BA stepped down to go with Todd, Well,
Speaker 1: it was it was very quickly. We do have the
Speaker 1: luxury here of having a lot of very very good coaches,
Speaker 1: Um byron Um, Harold Goodwin, who you know, uh, Keith
Speaker 1: Armstrong and you know Glisz kind of goes on on
Speaker 1: Larry Foot. We've we've got some excellent coaches here. But
Speaker 1: we just felt Todd and b A felt Todd with
Speaker 1: his experience as being a head coach in New York
Speaker 1: and go the way he wanted it and necessarily felt
Speaker 1: that was all should have fallen on Todd. Um. We felt,
Speaker 1: you know, his his the way he commands a room,
Speaker 1: the way he's such a great keep up in terms
Speaker 1: of relationships with players and getting the most out of him.
Speaker 1: It didn't take long at all. It's Ba's involvement. I
Speaker 1: know his title as senior advisor to you the GM.
Speaker 1: How much are you and BA conversing daily weekly about
Speaker 1: the team and how heavily involved is BA with you guys.
Speaker 1: BA and I talk along with my directors and scouts constantly.
Speaker 1: He's been a part of those conversations talking about how
Speaker 1: this roster is shaping up this year, who we feel
Speaker 1: like gives us the best chance to win m I
Speaker 1: sit with BA during our games. He's I know, he's
Speaker 1: he talks with Todd a lot and the other coaches
Speaker 1: he's been Uh, you know, he still has a lot
Speaker 1: of passion for the game, but he is loving life
Speaker 1: right now. He's loving his role. He looks great. He's
Speaker 1: got a ton of energy, and I know he's very excited.
Speaker 1: As if when I talk to him about this team
Speaker 1: and you know the potential that we have, you would
Speaker 1: think that he was still coaching. He's just not actually
Speaker 1: coaching the players. How did your time as a bartender
Speaker 1: prepare you to work with BA? It comes in handy.
Speaker 1: I will say, Man, you are pretty funny on Twitter
Speaker 1: because there's all these tweets and pictures of UNBA with
Speaker 1: a beer in your hand or I think I saw
Speaker 1: one with you guys on a beach with Rick Christophel
Speaker 1: one of the assistant coaches, with may tie or something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that was I think that was the
Speaker 1: week after we won the Super Bowl, so we were
Speaker 1: back at work. It's great, man, No people got to
Speaker 1: follow you on Twitter. And then I think I saw
Speaker 1: one with the ac DC shirt. That might have been
Speaker 1: another with the Metallica shirt. So you're you're a huge
Speaker 1: heavy metal guy. Are you still like a big heavy
Speaker 1: metal guy? Well, I'm kind of stuck in my genre.
Speaker 1: I'm born in seventy one, and all through high school
Speaker 1: and college I was a big Tallica AC DC fan.
Speaker 1: And during that twenty twenty season, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: little stitious, not superstitious, but a little stitious. And I
Speaker 1: had had a lucky shirt and through the playoffs and
Speaker 1: it was Metallica shirt. And then after the game, I
Speaker 1: had a couple of pictures with Gronk and with Brady
Speaker 1: and BA and Metallica actually reached out to me through
Speaker 1: their general manager. Maybe he and I can do a
Speaker 1: trade um someday. But they gave they gave me some
Speaker 1: VIP tickets that happened to be on our bye weekend
Speaker 1: through their concert in Fort Lauderdale. So I went, and
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was unbelieved. It was like
Speaker 1: it was one of the best moments. I can imagine
Speaker 1: us the best concert I've ever been to. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say I'm a pretty pretty pretty big fan.
Speaker 1: And you talked about being stitious not superstitious. Is that
Speaker 1: part of it again? This goes back to your Twitter feed.
Speaker 1: You used to jump into your pool in a full
Speaker 1: suit when you guys win. Are you still doing that
Speaker 1: or is that just one year that you were doing that.
Speaker 1: It was one year now, one year that I was
Speaker 1: actually posting it. Um still do it from time to
Speaker 1: time with my kids. They love it. That year, particularly year,
Speaker 1: we had just we had been we had won a
Speaker 1: lot of games, and we had talked about when I
Speaker 1: got the job that you know, after we win, I'll
Speaker 1: come home, we'll have a pool party and with the family.
Speaker 1: And it just wasn't happy. I was coming home and
Speaker 1: we weren't having parties at all. Nobody wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to dad because I was in such a bad mood.
Speaker 1: And then we won that first game versus the Saints,
Speaker 1: So I came home and jump jumped into the pool
Speaker 1: at my kids and I kind of took off that
Speaker 1: year as a little tradition that we do, but I
Speaker 1: backed off on that recently. But now I'm going to
Speaker 1: save it for the big wins. Well, like any executive,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you live and die with success and failure.
Speaker 1: I'm curious Jason was this offseason after winning a super
Speaker 1: Bowl the previous year and then losing in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and not getting the opportunity to get back, which is
Speaker 1: very hard to do. In the NFL, but not getting
Speaker 1: that opportunity to come back. Was this in some ways,
Speaker 1: along with obviously everything else he was going out in
Speaker 1: the organization. Was this a harder offseason for you because
Speaker 1: you had you had tasted that championship success the year before.
Speaker 1: I would say the last two off seasons were very
Speaker 1: difficult for me. Like it's, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: first place I worked with the Dolphins an intern when
Speaker 1: Don Shul's head coach, and then Jimmy Johnson came in
Speaker 1: the next year, and Jimmy had promoted me to a
Speaker 1: full time position. But so I kept in touch with
Speaker 1: Jimmy over the years, and so after we won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he texted me, I mean almost immediately and
Speaker 1: he said, now now the hard part starts, And he
Speaker 1: was right, it's you know, the expectations are one thing,
Speaker 1: but it's just managing everybody's egos. And we have a
Speaker 1: great locker room, so that part wasn't real difficult, but
Speaker 1: just keeping the team together. Then also, you know, you
Speaker 1: get that taste of winning and being the best team
Speaker 1: in the NFL at the time after winning the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and you want to do everything you can to make
Speaker 1: sure you have an opportunity to do that again. So
Speaker 1: life becomes a little bit more stressful during those off
Speaker 1: seasons than they do in years past. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier you had an inkling during the Super Bowl that
Speaker 1: maybe Tom was thinking about coming back. Do you still
Speaker 1: have a feeling that Gronk will return or do you
Speaker 1: feel like this is it, He's really done? You know,
Speaker 1: I just he's he puts himself out there a lot
Speaker 1: on social media. Looks like he's having a hell of
Speaker 1: a time. So I don't I'm not crossing my fingers
Speaker 1: on this one. Um, We'll have to see what happens
Speaker 1: in terms of some of you know, the players that
Speaker 1: are on the rush right now, You've had some injuries
Speaker 1: in camp with the offensive lineup. How big of a
Speaker 1: concern is that group right now for you? Well, internally,
Speaker 1: it's it's not the concern that seems to be Externally.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of we have a lot of
Speaker 1: faith in some of these young players that we've drafted
Speaker 1: and drafted high in the last couple of years, Robert
Speaker 1: Hainsey and Kadecki, and we took him for a reason
Speaker 1: and to be in this position if we needed them.
Speaker 1: So we also have a couple of young guys that
Speaker 1: we've had with us for a while, UM, that have
Speaker 1: gotten better and better. We have excellent coaches here that
Speaker 1: have developed these offensive linemen. Um, so we feel good
Speaker 1: about where we're at. And um it's not as you know,
Speaker 1: as you you you might read the story here or
Speaker 1: there that thinks that we're ready to hit the panic button,
Speaker 1: but we're not. So we feel very good about the
Speaker 1: group that we have. How about the weapons around tom
Speaker 1: how do you feel about those guys? Well, Mike Evans
Speaker 1: is an unbelievable player. Chris Godwin has been awesome for us,
Speaker 1: and he's looking good out here in his rehab. And
Speaker 1: then Julio has been everything and more than what we
Speaker 1: were expecting. These these aw fully help right now making
Speaker 1: plays every day that he's out there practicing. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: really excited to the regular season to start have those
Speaker 1: three and then Russell Gage and then some players that
Speaker 1: we've already had on our roster, so Cam Braid, m
Speaker 1: Leonard Pournette, there's a couple of rookies that were really
Speaker 1: really high on right now. So really, the regular season
Speaker 1: can't come here fast enough for me. Sure, I think
Speaker 1: Mike Evans was your first pick when you were the
Speaker 1: GM in Tampa. I'm if I'm correct there, where does
Speaker 1: he in terms of the best players that you've scouted
Speaker 1: over all your years doing this, where does he rank?
Speaker 1: He was phenomenal in college. You know, it was a
Speaker 1: big part of the reason Johnny Manziel won the Heisman
Speaker 1: that year because of how productive he was and I
Speaker 1: unstoppable he was at A and M. Yeah, he sure
Speaker 1: was looking back on that year that that was my
Speaker 1: first draft and there's a lot of good players in
Speaker 1: that draft, and we the question was always watching the
Speaker 1: A and M tape is basically was which came first
Speaker 1: to chicken or the egg? Was it Manzel or was
Speaker 1: it Evans? Was it both? We think we got it
Speaker 1: right thinking of with Evans, and uh, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: we did. And he's right up there and one of
Speaker 1: the best players I did look at. Now, there's some
Speaker 1: evaluate now there were some really good ones in that draft.
Speaker 1: But you know, going back in time, I'm glad that
Speaker 1: we I'm glad we got Mike. He's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people and not just players. He's an unbelievable teammate,
Speaker 1: unbelievable human being and at our house. We kind of
Speaker 1: feel like he's part of our family just because my
Speaker 1: kids talk about him constantly and he's he's such a
Speaker 1: good role model for them. Last one for you, Jason.
Speaker 1: When the schedule came out and you saw that, first
Speaker 1: of all, you're playing on Christmas, second you're playing on
Speaker 1: the road, and third you're playing the Cardinals, what were
Speaker 1: your thought? We were actually pretty excited about that because
Speaker 1: my kids they're too young. My oldest two were there
Speaker 1: when I was there. Field was just born in October,
Speaker 1: and we left in you know, for the this job
Speaker 1: in February, so he was six months old. Um, we
Speaker 1: we have they've always had a fondness for Arizona, just
Speaker 1: because my wife and I talked about it all the time,
Speaker 1: how right up a time we had living there, working
Speaker 1: for Michael, working for Steve um a lot of memories.
Speaker 1: So the first thing we did was just made made
Speaker 1: plans that we're all going to be out there for Christmas,
Speaker 1: um and be together and staying there. So the the
Speaker 1: kids now living it, they don't really know what snow is,
Speaker 1: so we're hoping maybe we can they can get up
Speaker 1: to flag flagstaff and maybe ski before we get out
Speaker 1: there as a team so that we're really really looking
Speaker 1: forward to it. So they'll come out early in the
Speaker 1: week and then you'll fly out with the team a
Speaker 1: day before. Yeah, that's the plan right now, gotcha? All right, man, listen,
Speaker 1: I'll let you go, Jason. I really appreciate the time.
Speaker 1: It's great catching up with you. As I said earlier, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for your success, and I'm not the
Speaker 1: only one in the Cardinals organization that feels the same way.
Speaker 1: You're still very thought, fondly thought of here amongst everybody
Speaker 1: in the organization, and we wish you the best of
Speaker 1: us success in twenty twenty two, with the exception of
Speaker 1: Christmas night. Man, I appreciate it, Dave. All right, Jason,
Speaker 1: take care, brother. So a lot there from Jason about
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and his return. When Jason knew it sounded
Speaker 1: like he knew just a couple of weeks after the
Speaker 1: announcement was made by Tom that he was retiring. Sounded
Speaker 1: like Jason knew based on his reaction to a text
Speaker 1: from Tom during the Super Bowl, that Brady might be
Speaker 1: coming back. Jason also talked very fondly about his time
Speaker 1: here with the Cardinals, his relationship with Steve Kime, how
Speaker 1: much Steve helped prepare him for his role as general manager,
Speaker 1: a position that he's held since twenty fourteen. So a
Speaker 1: lot of great stuff there from bucks GM Jason Life.
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Speaker 1: Over the next few weeks, you'll hear from Clemson head
Speaker 1: coach Dabo Sweeney several Clemson Cardinals connections that we'll talk
Speaker 1: to Dabo about. Also Charles Davis, CBS announcer and ESPN
Speaker 1: NFL analyst Marcus Spears. Thanks again to bucks GM, Jason Light,
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