1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Pash Podcast. I'm your host Arizona Cardinals an ESPN announcer 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Dave Pash. My guest this week is Jason Light, who 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: is the general manager for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: a former executive with the Arizona Cardinals. We cover a 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: lot of subjects. Most importantly for a lot of nfhealth fans, 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. We talk about his return, whether Jason was 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: concerned at all about when Tom wasn't there during camp, 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: when he first thought Brady was coming back after his 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: January retirement. The first time I got an inkling that 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: this might not be forever retirement was from text sent 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: to me during the Super Bowl, and you could just 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: feel that the fire was still there. And that was 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: when I told my wife, I said, I don't think 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: this is over. Also Gronk's future, Jason's time with the Cardinals, 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: what he learned from Steve Kim, and much more. 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When you first hear our interview, 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: you might wonder why I'm talking about a steak dinner 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: with Jason. Well, here's the inside story. Jason texted Wolf 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: and I during a telecast in the preseason a year 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: ago after the Buccaneers had won the Super Bowl, and 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Jason said, Hey, if you can work into the telecast, 31 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm still friends with Steve Kim, I'll buy you a 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: steak dinner. Now. I get a lot of requests from 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: people texting or in person, sometimes players saying, Hey, it's 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: my mother's birthday, can you give her a shout out? 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: You discern, okay, what's going to serve the viewer and 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: what's not. So normally you say sorry, we can't really 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: do that, But in this case, you know, it's a 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: preseason game, the Buccaneers had won the Super Bowl. We 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: can tie this into the Cardinals, and we'll also get 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: a stake dinner out of it. We made it happen. 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: So we tell our producer, Hey, when we come back 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: from break, give us a shot of Michael Bidwill and 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Steve Kinne. So we come out of break and again, 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: this is about a minute after we got the text 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: from Jason. We come out of break and I say, 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell, Cardinals owner, Steve Kine, the general manager. Steve 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: has had so much success as a GM, and he's 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: also had some people under him that have gone on 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: to have success, like Jason Light who's now the GM 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Congrats to Jason and the 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: Bucks on winning the Super Bowl. And by the way, 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: Jason and Steve are still close friends today. And within 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: about five seconds, I get a text from Jason saint 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: darn it because he knew he had just lost out 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: on a steake dinner. But the statute of limitations has passed. 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: We're a year after that. So I guilted Jason into 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: coming on the podcast instead of the steak dinner. So 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: here he is Tampa Bay Buccaneers General Manager Jason l Well. Jason, 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: while I would have loved to have had this conversation 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: with the over a steak dinner. I'm good with this man. 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Just catching up with you is great. How you been, brother, 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: I've been good. How about you? I'm good, man, Camp's been. 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: You can rehatch it over a steak dinner. Sounds good. Yeah. No, 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: at some point like our paths are going to cross again. 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll have maybe a college football 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: game in Tampa, but maybe when you're here over Christmas 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: or something, we'll hook up. Sounds good. You know, of 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: all the guys, you're one of my favorites of the 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: guys that have come through here, and I'm so happy 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: for your success. And I'm curious, Jason, as you look back, 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been you've been the GM now in 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: Tampa since twenty fourteen, But as you think back to 73 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: your time in Arizona, and I know you were here 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: for two stints, but in particular the second time that 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you were here, what are some of your biggest takeaways 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: from working with Steve Kime and working here with the 77 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals that helped you prepare to run the team in Tampa. 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot, I would say, I reflect on this 79 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot, and we I talked this, you know, talked 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: to a lot of my people about this that asked 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: the question. And I was, you know, fortunate enough to 82 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: be with some really good organizations the Patriots twice, the 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: Eagles and being two of the teams and had a 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: lot of success. Those teams had a lot of success. 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: So I was able to see how those good teams 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: were built and you know, how they were managed and 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: coached and all those things, and worked with some great people, 88 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, I mean, just to name a couple, 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: but I would say that what prepared me the most 90 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: for this position was working for Steve and seeing how 91 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: he was afforded. I was afforded the luxury just based 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: on our relationship and he's still one of my closest friends. 93 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: Of getting a front row seat to all of the 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: things that go on behind the scenes and how things 95 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: are handled, and that's what that's what gms aren't ready for. 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: In most cases. You we we spend our career either 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: on the road or in the office evaluating players. And 98 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: in my case and in terms of you know, going 99 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: to getting the GM job based on my coming up 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: through the scouting routes and you know, you you evaluate players. 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: You're right before it. So you have the meetings, you 102 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: stand on the table for certain players and um, you know, 103 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: you say stay away from certain players. But and that's 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that's the easy part. That 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: certainly isn't easy, but that's what I was trained to do. 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: I wasn't trained to deal with the injuries and the 107 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: relationships and the you know, some off field things that 108 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: come up with every team and with Steve and him 109 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: allowing me to be there in the room with him 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: when these things were discussed on how we're going to 111 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: handle them with pr things like that with Mark Dalton, 112 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: who I think is one of the best in the league. 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I would have been I 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: don't think it would have been a very smooth situation 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: for me. And now it wasn't smooth the first here 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: for me either, But I don't know if I would 117 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: have gotten through these times, those times, those rough times 118 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: without that experience with Steve. Well. One of the things 119 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: that I think Steve is really good at that maybe 120 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: fans don't see, and I think you're the same way, 121 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: is look player evaluation, putting together a roster winning games. 122 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Obviously that's what matters most, and that's what the fans see. 123 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: But building relationships goes a long way to getting deals done, 124 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: to finding out information that maybe other Scouts or gems 125 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: may not be able to get from certain people. How 126 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: do you think your ability to deal with people helps 127 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: you be a good GM. I think it's of the 128 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: utmost importance. I've always liked people in general, liked having relationships, 129 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: building relationships, keeping relationships. And Steve is one of the 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: best I've ever been around. And he's just got a knack. 131 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Everybody feels like they've been a close friend or compident 132 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: of Steve their entire life, even if they he meets 133 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: them for the first time. And I've taken a lot 134 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: that's rubbed off on me a little bit my times 135 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: with him. He he would always say, you know, it's 136 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: it's not always the excess and O's, it's the Jimmy's 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: and Joe's and and He's right. You You you want talent, 138 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: you want to bring in the best talent you can, 139 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: but you also want people that um are able to 140 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: communicate and able to get along with everybody. And you know, 141 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: one team one causes Ba's was BEA's one of his 142 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: expressions that he used all the time, and Steve is 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: just a phenomenal people person, and I felt like, you know, 144 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: we were naturally attracted to each other's friends because we 145 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: both have that quality, I think, And that's not patting 146 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: myself on the back. I just think we both like 147 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: generally like people and getting through rough waters. It's all 148 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: about relationships. This is a relationship business, just like any 149 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: other business. And Jason, I'm not asking you to pat 150 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: yourself on the back with this question, but I am curious. 151 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: Is there somebody that you look back on your time 152 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: here in Arizona and you mentioned, you know, the metaphor 153 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: of standing on the table for a guy. Is there 154 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: somebody that's having success now with the Cardinals that you 155 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: were really bullish about at the time and had to 156 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: stand on the table for, so to speak. Well, that's 157 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: always that's always a tough question to answer for this 158 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: reason that we all have our ideas and suggestions and 159 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: and players that we that we like and we want 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: to stand on the table or we stand on the 161 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: table four But at the end of the day, it's 162 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: it's the GM that pulls that card off the board, 163 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's it's it's a team. It's teamwork, 164 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a we all work together to 165 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: to to make the decision and build the board the 166 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: right way, but it's always the GM that to make 167 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: the final call. And in that in that case back then, 168 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: Steve obviously, So to take credit for someone it's it's 169 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: a little bit uh, it gets a it's a little 170 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: bit muddy, um because you know I could have stood 171 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: on the table. You know, Steve was He and I 172 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: saw eye to eye on most players, and I mean 173 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: really liked Tyr and Matthew and Um. I sat in 174 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Steve's office and we watched a ton of tape on 175 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: Tyrn and and and he at the time i'd been 176 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: in their earth at LSU, and we watched it together 177 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, you're right, you know, 178 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: just heaving player. He would have come up with that, 179 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: that would he would have come to that buy on 180 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: his own, I'm sure at some point. So you know, 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to say that, you know, I stood on 182 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: the table. This is I'm the reason that these particular 183 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: players are there, if you know what I'm saying. Sure, sure, 184 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: well enough on your past job here with Arizona, let's 185 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: talk about your current position, Jason and your team, the 186 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously, the big story the last few 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: days has been Tom Brady's absince Tom was back at 188 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: practice today. Let me take a wild guess. He looked 189 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady? Am I right? Yeah? All was good 190 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: again today the Waters were home. In a situation like 191 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: that where a player the caliber of Tom Brady that 192 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: you've had a relationship with for two decades is missing 193 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: time for personal reasons, I have to think and tell 194 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong that it's a matter of trust, 195 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: Like you know, Tom's going to bring it week one, 196 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: regardless of time missed. Well, there's no question he's I 197 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: have never been around a player that prepares as conscientiously, 198 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: diligently and does it the right way then Tom Brady. 199 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: And you know he was gone for whatever it was 200 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: eleven days. I know he was preparing in those eleven 201 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: days as well, So it a total trust with him. 202 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: And you know, it's obviously it's great to have him 203 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: back in the building. The vibe picks up even more 204 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: when he's gone. But the foundation that he's set already 205 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: then you know in the last two years that we've 206 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: been with that he's been with us, it carries over 207 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: whenever he's done. That was one of the things that 208 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: we talked about before we signed him and for agency 209 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty was however long he plays, two, three, four, 210 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: whatever breaths, his presence is going to be sold for 211 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: a long time just because of the standard that he sets. 212 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: You want a Super Bowl as part of the Patriots 213 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady in two thousand and two, and then 214 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: you're also there back with the Patriots two thousand and 215 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: nine to two eleven. Has Tom changed much at all 216 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: being around him now compared to his early years in 217 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: the NFL? Or is he at the core the same guy? 218 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: I think you've gotten better looked in and I think 219 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: that he's actually a stronger arm. But it's amazing. I mean, 220 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: look what he's done. The story obviously, in terms of 221 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: the greatest stories in the history of the NFL, it's 222 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: at the top of the list. And then you know, 223 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: after the playoff loss to the Rams, Tom decides to 224 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: retire for the time being. How much were you and 225 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Tom in conversation during his retirement and talking about the 226 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: possibility of coming back we first time, well we we 227 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: had sent text back and forth because we do have 228 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: a good relationship. He did the same thing with Beau, 229 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: kept in touch. The first time I got an inkling 230 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: that this might not be forever retirement was some text 231 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: sent to me during the Super Bowl and you could 232 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: just feel that he was the fire was still there, 233 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: that he wishes that he was playing in that game, 234 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and you know, he always feels like he could beat 235 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: any team, so you know, I could just feel the fire. 236 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: And that was when I pulled Blair my wife. I said, 237 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't think this is over. So really it was 238 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: a matter of weeks then, because that that loss was 239 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: what towards the end of January. So a couple of 240 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: weeks passes and not surprising based on his competitive nature's 241 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: he's ready to come back to you guys. I'm also 242 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: curious about Todd Bowles, who everybody here in Arizona knows 243 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: from his time here, and you were here during some 244 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: of the those years when Todd was a defensive coordinator. 245 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: How long did it take you, guys to make that 246 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: decision once BA stepped down to go with Todd, Well, 247 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: it was it was very quickly. We do have the 248 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: luxury here of having a lot of very very good coaches, 249 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Um byron Um, Harold Goodwin, who you know, uh, Keith 250 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Armstrong and you know Glisz kind of goes on on 251 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: Larry Foot. We've we've got some excellent coaches here. But 252 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: we just felt Todd and b A felt Todd with 253 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: his experience as being a head coach in New York 254 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: and go the way he wanted it and necessarily felt 255 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: that was all should have fallen on Todd. Um. We felt, 256 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, his his the way he commands a room, 257 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: the way he's such a great keep up in terms 258 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: of relationships with players and getting the most out of him. 259 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: It didn't take long at all. It's Ba's involvement. I 260 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: know his title as senior advisor to you the GM. 261 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: How much are you and BA conversing daily weekly about 262 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: the team and how heavily involved is BA with you guys. 263 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: BA and I talk along with my directors and scouts constantly. 264 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: He's been a part of those conversations talking about how 265 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: this roster is shaping up this year, who we feel 266 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: like gives us the best chance to win m I 267 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: sit with BA during our games. He's I know, he's 268 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: he talks with Todd a lot and the other coaches 269 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: he's been Uh, you know, he still has a lot 270 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: of passion for the game, but he is loving life 271 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: right now. He's loving his role. He looks great. He's 272 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: got a ton of energy, and I know he's very excited. 273 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: As if when I talk to him about this team 274 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: and you know the potential that we have, you would 275 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: think that he was still coaching. He's just not actually 276 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: coaching the players. How did your time as a bartender 277 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: prepare you to work with BA? It comes in handy. 278 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: I will say, Man, you are pretty funny on Twitter 279 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: because there's all these tweets and pictures of UNBA with 280 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: a beer in your hand or I think I saw 281 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: one with you guys on a beach with Rick Christophel 282 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: one of the assistant coaches, with may tie or something 283 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that was I think that was the 284 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: week after we won the Super Bowl, so we were 285 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: back at work. It's great, man, No people got to 286 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: follow you on Twitter. And then I think I saw 287 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: one with the ac DC shirt. That might have been 288 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: another with the Metallica shirt. So you're you're a huge 289 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: heavy metal guy. Are you still like a big heavy 290 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: metal guy? Well, I'm kind of stuck in my genre. 291 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm born in seventy one, and all through high school 292 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: and college I was a big Tallica AC DC fan. 293 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: And during that twenty twenty season, I'm a I'm a 294 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: little stitious, not superstitious, but a little stitious. And I 295 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: had had a lucky shirt and through the playoffs and 296 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: it was Metallica shirt. And then after the game, I 297 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of pictures with Gronk and with Brady 298 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: and BA and Metallica actually reached out to me through 299 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: their general manager. Maybe he and I can do a 300 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: trade um someday. But they gave they gave me some 301 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: VIP tickets that happened to be on our bye weekend 302 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: through their concert in Fort Lauderdale. So I went, and 303 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was unbelieved. It was like 304 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: it was one of the best moments. I can imagine 305 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: us the best concert I've ever been to. So yeah, 306 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: I would say I'm a pretty pretty pretty big fan. 307 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: And you talked about being stitious not superstitious. Is that 308 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: part of it again? This goes back to your Twitter feed. 309 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: You used to jump into your pool in a full 310 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: suit when you guys win. Are you still doing that 311 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: or is that just one year that you were doing that. 312 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: It was one year now, one year that I was 313 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: actually posting it. Um still do it from time to 314 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: time with my kids. They love it. That year, particularly year, 315 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: we had just we had been we had won a 316 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: lot of games, and we had talked about when I 317 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: got the job that you know, after we win, I'll 318 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: come home, we'll have a pool party and with the family. 319 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: And it just wasn't happy. I was coming home and 320 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: we weren't having parties at all. Nobody wanted to talk 321 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: to dad because I was in such a bad mood. 322 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: And then we won that first game versus the Saints, 323 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: So I came home and jump jumped into the pool 324 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: at my kids and I kind of took off that 325 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: year as a little tradition that we do, but I 326 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: backed off on that recently. But now I'm going to 327 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: save it for the big wins. Well, like any executive, 328 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure you live and die with success and failure. 329 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious Jason was this offseason after winning a super 330 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: Bowl the previous year and then losing in the playoffs 331 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: and not getting the opportunity to get back, which is 332 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: very hard to do. In the NFL, but not getting 333 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: that opportunity to come back. Was this in some ways, 334 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: along with obviously everything else he was going out in 335 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: the organization. Was this a harder offseason for you because 336 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: you had you had tasted that championship success the year before. 337 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: I would say the last two off seasons were very 338 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: difficult for me. Like it's, you know, one of the 339 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: first place I worked with the Dolphins an intern when 340 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Don Shul's head coach, and then Jimmy Johnson came in 341 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: the next year, and Jimmy had promoted me to a 342 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: full time position. But so I kept in touch with 343 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy over the years, and so after we won the 344 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he texted me, I mean almost immediately and 345 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: he said, now now the hard part starts, And he 346 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: was right, it's you know, the expectations are one thing, 347 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: but it's just managing everybody's egos. And we have a 348 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: great locker room, so that part wasn't real difficult, but 349 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: just keeping the team together. Then also, you know, you 350 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: get that taste of winning and being the best team 351 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL at the time after winning the Super Bowl, 352 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: and you want to do everything you can to make 353 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: sure you have an opportunity to do that again. So 354 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: life becomes a little bit more stressful during those off 355 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: seasons than they do in years past. And you mentioned 356 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: earlier you had an inkling during the Super Bowl that 357 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: maybe Tom was thinking about coming back. Do you still 358 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: have a feeling that Gronk will return or do you 359 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: feel like this is it, He's really done? You know, 360 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: I just he's he puts himself out there a lot 361 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: on social media. Looks like he's having a hell of 362 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: a time. So I don't I'm not crossing my fingers 363 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: on this one. Um, We'll have to see what happens 364 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: in terms of some of you know, the players that 365 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: are on the rush right now, You've had some injuries 366 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: in camp with the offensive lineup. How big of a 367 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: concern is that group right now for you? Well, internally, 368 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: it's it's not the concern that seems to be Externally. 369 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: We have a lot of we have a lot of 370 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: faith in some of these young players that we've drafted 371 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: and drafted high in the last couple of years, Robert 372 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: Hainsey and Kadecki, and we took him for a reason 373 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: and to be in this position if we needed them. 374 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: So we also have a couple of young guys that 375 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: we've had with us for a while, UM, that have 376 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: gotten better and better. We have excellent coaches here that 377 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: have developed these offensive linemen. Um, so we feel good 378 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: about where we're at. And um it's not as you know, 379 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: as you you you might read the story here or 380 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: there that thinks that we're ready to hit the panic button, 381 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: but we're not. So we feel very good about the 382 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: group that we have. How about the weapons around tom 383 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: how do you feel about those guys? Well, Mike Evans 384 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: is an unbelievable player. Chris Godwin has been awesome for us, 385 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: and he's looking good out here in his rehab. And 386 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: then Julio has been everything and more than what we 387 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: were expecting. These these aw fully help right now making 388 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: plays every day that he's out there practicing. Um, I'm 389 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: really excited to the regular season to start have those 390 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: three and then Russell Gage and then some players that 391 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: we've already had on our roster, so Cam Braid, m 392 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: Leonard Pournette, there's a couple of rookies that were really 393 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: really high on right now. So really, the regular season 394 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: can't come here fast enough for me. Sure, I think 395 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: Mike Evans was your first pick when you were the 396 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: GM in Tampa. I'm if I'm correct there, where does 397 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: he in terms of the best players that you've scouted 398 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: over all your years doing this, where does he rank? 399 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: He was phenomenal in college. You know, it was a 400 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: big part of the reason Johnny Manziel won the Heisman 401 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: that year because of how productive he was and I 402 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: unstoppable he was at A and M. Yeah, he sure 403 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: was looking back on that year that that was my 404 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: first draft and there's a lot of good players in 405 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: that draft, and we the question was always watching the 406 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: A and M tape is basically was which came first 407 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: to chicken or the egg? Was it Manzel or was 408 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: it Evans? Was it both? We think we got it 409 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: right thinking of with Evans, and uh, I'm pretty sure 410 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: we did. And he's right up there and one of 411 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: the best players I did look at. Now, there's some 412 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: evaluate now there were some really good ones in that draft. 413 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: But you know, going back in time, I'm glad that 414 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: we I'm glad we got Mike. He's one of my 415 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: favorite people and not just players. He's an unbelievable teammate, 416 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: unbelievable human being and at our house. We kind of 417 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: feel like he's part of our family just because my 418 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: kids talk about him constantly and he's he's such a 419 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: good role model for them. Last one for you, Jason. 420 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: When the schedule came out and you saw that, first 421 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: of all, you're playing on Christmas, second you're playing on 422 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: the road, and third you're playing the Cardinals, what were 423 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: your thought? We were actually pretty excited about that because 424 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: my kids they're too young. My oldest two were there 425 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: when I was there. Field was just born in October, 426 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: and we left in you know, for the this job 427 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: in February, so he was six months old. Um, we 428 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: we have they've always had a fondness for Arizona, just 429 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: because my wife and I talked about it all the time, 430 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: how right up a time we had living there, working 431 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: for Michael, working for Steve um a lot of memories. 432 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: So the first thing we did was just made made 433 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: plans that we're all going to be out there for Christmas, 434 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: um and be together and staying there. So the the 435 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: kids now living it, they don't really know what snow is, 436 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: so we're hoping maybe we can they can get up 437 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: to flag flagstaff and maybe ski before we get out 438 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: there as a team so that we're really really looking 439 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: forward to it. So they'll come out early in the 440 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: week and then you'll fly out with the team a 441 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: day before. Yeah, that's the plan right now, gotcha? All right, man, listen, 442 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: I'll let you go, Jason. I really appreciate the time. 443 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: It's great catching up with you. As I said earlier, Man, 444 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for your success, and I'm not the 445 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: only one in the Cardinals organization that feels the same way. 446 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: You're still very thought, fondly thought of here amongst everybody 447 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: in the organization, and we wish you the best of 448 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: us success in twenty twenty two, with the exception of 449 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: Christmas night. Man, I appreciate it, Dave. All right, Jason, 450 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: take care, brother. So a lot there from Jason about 451 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and his return. When Jason knew it sounded 452 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: like he knew just a couple of weeks after the 453 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: announcement was made by Tom that he was retiring. Sounded 454 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: like Jason knew based on his reaction to a text 455 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: from Tom during the Super Bowl, that Brady might be 456 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: coming back. Jason also talked very fondly about his time 457 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: here with the Cardinals, his relationship with Steve Kime, how 458 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: much Steve helped prepare him for his role as general manager, 459 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: a position that he's held since twenty fourteen. 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