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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntire. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Monday, October twenty First, we are closing in

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Speaker 2: on Halloween. It's exactly ten days away. We've got two

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Speaker 2: Monday night football games tonight, exciting. We'll do best bets

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Speaker 2: at the end of the podcast. We have a World

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Speaker 2: Series matchup that is set and it is what I've

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Speaker 2: been begging for for months. Yankees Dodgers. Obviously the two

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Speaker 2: I guess they're the two highest pay rolls on or

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Speaker 2: two of the highest payrolls in the league, probably number

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Speaker 2: one and two. And you get the star power with Otani,

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Speaker 2: you get Bets, you get Judge, you get Soto. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be magnificent. And uh, obviously I've got friends

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Speaker 2: already texting me, Hey, how about take us to the

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Speaker 2: get My families say, hey, can you make it happen?

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Speaker 2: And I just looked at the schedule. I'm like, there's

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Speaker 2: no shot. You know, I'll t have a ticket that's

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Speaker 2: gonna be in La. Yankees Dodgers all like the A list,

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Speaker 2: B list, C list. I'm down there like f Liss celebrity,

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Speaker 2: I got no shot, folks, none, but I will try. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we got to start the podcast with the NFL. No,

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Speaker 2: we're not starting with the freakin Jets. I can't. I

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Speaker 2: can't do that to myself.

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Speaker 1: But I can.

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Speaker 2: I can start with the Niners, who I love this week,

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Speaker 2: by the way, two and three in the contest, Niners

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Speaker 2: let me down. I also lost with the freaking Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: which was a last second play. It nearly panned out,

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Speaker 2: but we're not getting into that crap, unbelievable non cover

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Speaker 2: from the genius Mike McDaniel. And then the other one

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Speaker 2: I had was Vikings, which was a tough loss ordinarily

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Speaker 2: Vikings Lions, phenomenal game. We talk about it. But there's

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Speaker 2: three other way bigger stories, starting with the Chiefs kind

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Speaker 2: of sort of dismantling the Niners. I don't know, twenty

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Speaker 2: eight eighteen, I say dismantling. But folks, if you just

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Speaker 2: look at the box score, you're like, wait, who won

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Speaker 2: this game? The Chiefs averaged four point eight yards per play.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes drew for no, is it? That's all. Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes really one hundred and fifty four yards passing two interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt grinding out twenty two carries for seventy eight yards.

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Speaker 2: How the hell did they win this game? Well, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you right now. The Chiefs. They moved to six

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Speaker 2: and zero, the only undefeated team left in the league,

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Speaker 2: and then won because yes, brock Perdy did throw three interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Not all of them were his fault, but kind of

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Speaker 2: sort of important and being glossed over was the Deebo

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Speaker 2: Samuel played a whopping three plays. He was sick. I

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Speaker 2: didn't see any reporter break this news, or anyone who

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Speaker 2: started in fantasy would have probably benched him. Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 2: played three plays. Juwan Jennings did not play. We knew

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Speaker 2: that coming in. He was ruled out. So those are

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Speaker 2: two good options. And then Brendon and I pops his

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Speaker 2: ACL early third quarter and is down. And so when

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Speaker 2: you're they missed the extra point, which are stupid. They

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Speaker 2: should have just gone for two down fourteen twelve, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Brock Purty starts dropping back to pass,

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Speaker 2: and okay, let me see if Jacob Cowing is opened.

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Speaker 2: Let me see if the rookie Ricky Piarsow can get

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Speaker 2: any separation. Oh there's Ronnie Bell. Remember the guy who

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Speaker 2: dropped the pass against the Rams. That's who brock Purty's

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Speaker 2: throwing to, trying to come back and win the game,

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Speaker 2: and guess what, it didn't quite happen. Now, Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs defense is excellent. Spagnolo for my money, best defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator in the league. I'd go Flores second party did

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Speaker 2: not have a good game. But look, don't let this

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Speaker 2: be an indictment on brock Purty. Okay, don't say he's

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Speaker 2: not worth forty million or whatever the number is. Don't

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Speaker 2: do that. Okay, we have enough data on brock Purty

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Speaker 2: that he's good. Is he good without Deebo Samuel super

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Speaker 2: Bowl near MVP Juwan Jennings who is a really damn

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Speaker 2: good player, and then Brandon Ayuk is now gone for

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Speaker 2: the season, Like what? What? Holy hell?

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Speaker 1: To me?

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Speaker 2: This was more about the Niners. I'm sorry, guys, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not being a Chiefs hater. Obviously I don't like

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Speaker 2: this team. Patrick Mahomes is very likable to sit down

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Speaker 2: an interview with Brady. I'm sure you guys saw that

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Speaker 2: excellent stuff. I like Mahomes a lot. I was Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelce for Halloween last year. I'm a Taylor Swift fan.

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Speaker 2: You guys know that, but I'm just gonna tell you.

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Speaker 2: I could give you three cracks at who the leading

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Speaker 2: receiver was for the Chiefs on Sunday and you'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. So the leading receiver was Noah Gray,

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Speaker 2: the number two tight end, who had four catches for

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Speaker 2: sixty six yards. Okay. Samaj p Ryan yardage wise was

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Speaker 2: receiver was Xavier Worthy three catches nineteen yards, Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 2: four catches, seventeen yards. They don't have an offense, people,

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Speaker 2: This is not like me being negative. Sky Moore does

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Speaker 2: not belong on a football field and would not be

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Speaker 2: surprised if he's not even on the team. Juju Smith

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Speaker 2: got hurt, Juju Smith, Schuster got hurt. Sorry, Justin Watson

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Speaker 1: Whoopie, damn?

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Speaker 2: Do they don't have an offense? I know I can

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Speaker 2: finish your sentence because I hear you. And they still

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Speaker 2: beat the Niners. Well, the Niners are banged up. Okay,

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Speaker 2: clearly the Niners were not on their game. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: won with his legs. He had an incredible scramble where

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Speaker 2: he faked it, eluded Warner and then you know, went

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Speaker 2: down the sideline because you don't want to hit Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes do the sideline and get fifteen yards. So the

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Speaker 2: linebacker like kind of pulled up. Mahomes kept dancing. Listen, man,

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Speaker 2: it was not a good performance from the Niners. I'm

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Speaker 2: not excusing it. I know Rob might come in a

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Speaker 2: little hotter because I saw his tweets, but to me,

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Speaker 2: this is still not an impressive Kansas City Chiefs team. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they are six to zero, the only undefeated team. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm an idiot for saying maybe they missed the playoffs, folks.

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Speaker 2: The bottom line is, and they can play the Raiders

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Speaker 2: this week. They're already it looks like ten point favorites

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Speaker 2: probably gonna go North to ten Raiders. I mean, Antonio,

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Speaker 2: your Piers down eight kicks a field goal with three

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Speaker 2: up against. Come on, that's just comical. But the kids

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Speaker 2: to the Chiefs right now, they are undefeated. Yes, that's

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Speaker 2: a fact. Another fact is they're not a strong football

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Speaker 2: our mind around that. Yes, they have Patrick Mahomes. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinators are amazing. Yes, Andy Reid is a master. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's stupid to get in front of the Chiefs off

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Speaker 2: of a bye. Patrick Mahomes is an underdog twelve one.

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Speaker 2: And what again? The spread? We have all that, we know,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, but if you watch the game, nobody

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Speaker 2: on that Chiefs offense scares you. And honestly, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how they continue to win these close games. Now,

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Speaker 2: this wasn't very close. The Chiefs had a gave up

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Speaker 2: much of the fourth quarter. Perty had a brutal interception

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Speaker 2: He had a misconnection with the receiver on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Looked like the receiver ran the wrong route. Listen, Perdy

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna leave you with the most impressive stat

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Speaker 2: is the first quarterback since twenty fifteen to start six

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Speaker 2: and oh and have more interceptions than touchdowns. You probably

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Speaker 2: don't know who the quarterback is who started six and

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Speaker 2: oh and had more picks than touchdowns. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: help you. His name was Peyton Manning. And that was

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Speaker 2: the year with the Broncos that you started to see

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Speaker 2: him look a little washed. He was at one point

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Speaker 2: benched late in the season. He threw for I think

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Speaker 2: a bucks sixty two in the Super Bowl and they

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Speaker 2: won it with defense, and that might be where we're

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Speaker 2: headed with Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: by the way, just to reiterate, he had zero touchdowns

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Speaker 2: you could look at any of the advanced stats you want. Guys,

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Speaker 2: I'm not being a hater. This is what the numbers say.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes has not been a good quarterback this year.

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Speaker 2: He has six touchdowns, ten interceptions, and yet the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: remain the only undefeated team in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Jason, I'm glad you brought up that infamous what is

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Speaker 3: it or fourth quarter thirty three yard carry by Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes that had the twitters fear and the broadcast team

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Speaker 3: just fawning over Patrick. Oh, you see Patrick Mahomes making

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Speaker 3: something out of nothing. That's why he's the goat, that's

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Speaker 3: why he's the MVP, that's why he's the best player

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Speaker 3: in football. And it's like, is that really where we're

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Speaker 3: at now with Patrick rohms? No, but it's like that's

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Speaker 3: where we're at where I mean, it was a big play.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna credit to him, it was a great run,

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Speaker 3: it worked out. It was probably the difference in the

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Speaker 3: game could allow them to assalted away. But Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 3: and I tweeted this out on Sunday, has had more

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Speaker 3: more than enough great games that we can admit when

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Speaker 3: he's not playing well and we don't need to fawn

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Speaker 3: over him when he makes one good play. Okay, Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes point blank period, has not been good this season. Okay.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday, in a game that they want, going away

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Speaker 3: by double digits, had the lowest passer rating of his

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Speaker 3: career forty four point four. Okay, here's the other one. Now,

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Speaker 3: this is something that I know is going to ruffle

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Speaker 3: some feathers and might even ruffle your feather because I

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Speaker 3: Rob Parker, who I work with Money through Friday and

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, has been on a anti Mahomes

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Speaker 3: you know run for some time now, okay, and he's

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Speaker 3: been especially in bold in this season and for good reason, Micaus,

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes just has not been good this year. So

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, he was going on his

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Speaker 3: you know, latest rant against Patrick Mahomes, and he was

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out how he wanted to phrase his

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Speaker 3: biggest point about what he was saying, like, look, he's

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Speaker 3: got all these inner turnovers, he's got a light of interceptions,

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Speaker 3: but you know, he keeps winning these games. And we

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Speaker 3: were talking before the show and we came up with

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Speaker 3: the headline that struck a nerve with people both at

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the Chiefs Kingdom fan base, and

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Speaker 3: that is that Patrick Mahomes this season is Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: with a great defense.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Now, of course, that kid, I'm not going sounds ridiculous

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Speaker 3: on its face, right Like that just sounds like the

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Speaker 3: most hot take, blasphemoust thing you've ever heard until you

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Speaker 3: dive into the stats and you look it up and

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Speaker 3: you're like, wait a minute, Patrick Mahomes passer rating is

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Speaker 3: nineteenth and Daniel Jones is twenty seventh. So you mean

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Speaker 3: to tell me that the gap between Mahomes and Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones at the same gap as you know, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: and Justin Fiel. Is that what we're saying. Are you

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Speaker 3: saying that Daniel Jones actually throws for more yards than

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes? Are you saying that Daniel Jones turns the

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Speaker 3: ball over less frequently than Patrick Robs? Yet, Like, I know,

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Speaker 3: it sounds crazy to say, and even when Rob Parker

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Speaker 3: said it, Nashell, I was like, you know, this is

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Speaker 3: kind of going to ruffles and feathers. But the fact

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Speaker 3: of the matter remains, the Chiefs are winning almost in

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Speaker 2: Now that I am warm, I do feel okay to

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Speaker 2: what's crazy about this game? My gosh, So the Jets

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Speaker 2: I said, Aaron Rodgers fail, he failed the Jets. It

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Speaker 2: a lot of Jason, what are you talking about. He's

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Speaker 2: not a failure. Why are you blaming Rogers because he's

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any quotes about this, but it was

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Speaker 3: your mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

426
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Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh Steelers, who could not complete a forward pass

427
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Speaker 3: until Sunday twenty point seven. The Jacksonville Jaguars, who have,

428
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: for my money, one of the most disappointing offenses in

429
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: all of football twenty point seven. The Denver Broncos bo Nicks,

430
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: who can't complete a pass beyond four yards. Average is

431
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: more than twenty one game. The Indianapolis Colts with Joe

432
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: Flacco coming up off the couch score more than twenty

433
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Speaker 3: points per game. And the New York Jets with Aaron

434
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 3: Rodgers and Bryce Hall and Garrett Wilson and Tyron Smith

435
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: and then they just add DeVante Adams are giving you

436
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: eighteen point eight a game. It is incredible. How much,

437
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: and I hate to blame it all of him, but

438
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: he's the face of the franchise. How much this Aaron

439
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 3: Rodgers acquisition has blown up in their face so spectacularly.

440
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: Every single move that he pushed for has failed, and

441
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: not just failed, It's been like similar to when the

442
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: Lakers trader for Russell Westbrook. It's one thing for you

443
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: to miss, it's another thing to set your franchise back

444
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: in a way that you just can't recover from. And

445
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: the Nathaniel Hackett offense, even with Todd Downey calling the plays,

446
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: is just not good enough. There's not no imagination, there's

447
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: no motion, There's nothing that's going to lead you to

448
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: believe that this offense is scary.

449
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: Okay, did you see DeVante Adams hamstring had to leave

450
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: and didn't return. Did you see that? I mean, I

451
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: would not be shocked if they said we're holding you

452
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Speaker 2: out of the Patriots game this week, DeVante, because we

453
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: have Thursday night against the Texans, and we on a

454
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Speaker 2: short we can't have you getting hurt again with the hammy,

455
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: and it's a short week. I would not be shocked

456
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: if Davante sat this week.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then here's the other thing. And again, I

458
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: don't want to blame it all Aaron Rodgers, because he's

459
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: not the only reason why they're bad. You know, his penalties.

460
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 3: The defense, which was supposed to be elite, suddenly can't

461
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: tackle the last few weeks. But Aaron Rodgers when they

462
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: brought him in. The idea was he was the elixir.

463
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: He was the big eraser that was going to erase

464
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: all their most glaring mistakes, and a game that they

465
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: normally would have lost seventeen thirteen, they win twenty one

466
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 3: to seventeen. Right, Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty four, compared

467
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: to his career, Again, this is a Hall of Fame careers.

468
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: They can always worth, though this season last and compared

469
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: to own his own ratings, his worst in passer rating,

470
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: his worst TD interception exception ratio, his worst in EPA

471
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Speaker 3: per dropback, his worst and explosive percentage, and his second

472
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Speaker 3: worst in completion percentage. He just has not been good

473
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Speaker 3: enough for what relative to what they needed him to be.

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Speaker 3: And when you put all your eggs in the Aaron

475
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 3: Rodgers basket and he's not living up to his end

476
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 3: of the bargain, you're left with guys like me looking

477
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: really freaking stupid for picking the Jets to make the

478
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

479
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: It's possible that he gets some cover with the Yankees

480
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: going to the World Series, right sure, And everybody celebrates

481
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: the New York media celebrates the Mets awesome season, even

482
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: though it's over. Maybe Rogers gets some cover there, but Rob,

483
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. It feels like it's over to me,

484
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: and it's just disappointing. As a Jets fan. You get

485
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: so you get all worked up about this and then nothing,

486
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: nothing ever comes of it. The final big story I thought,

487
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: not my great call on the Eagles. By the way,

488
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: how about the two no sweat winners I gave out

489
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: that I loved my two best picks Falcons and Eagles. Sorry,

490
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: Seahawks and Eagles both coast. The New York Giants are

491
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: so bad, Oh my gosh. But anyways, I thought that

492
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: the next biggest story Rob had to be one unfolded

493
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. So the Bengals take back the opening kick.

494
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: They take a seven to nothing lead, and you're like,

495
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: oh boy, here we go. Browns are a disaster. They're

496
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: gonna get just trucked. And then the Cincinnati offense did

497
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: like nothing, and it's not like Cleveland could really do much.

498
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: But you know, Deshaun Watson was having arguably the best

499
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Speaker 2: game of his young season fifteen of seventeen for a

500
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Speaker 2: buck twenty eight. Now, the problem is it wasn't resulting

501
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: in any real points or damage. They did have a

502
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: miss field goal, and there were a ton of punts,

503
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: but it was like the kind of thing where we're like, okay,

504
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: Jame not Jamis. Deshaun Watson is starting to look kinda

505
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: sorta okay, and they finally get the touchdown drive. The

506
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: problem is on the touchdown drive, Deshaun Watson ins. I

507
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: think it was like right near the red zone, Deshaun

508
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: Watson drops back to pass. He looked like he wanted

509
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: to run, and he did that thing where he stepped

510
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: back and tried to accelerate rapidly and instantly goes down.

511
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Speaker 2: It's an achilles. His season's over. And this is where

512
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: an interesting thing happened. The jabbronis in the Dog Pound

513
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: and throughout the stadium were basically cheering when Watson went

514
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: down and he had to come out of the game,

515
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: and that's kind of messed up. You got to be

516
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: a heartless, gutless kind of fan to root an injury. Okay,

517
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: this is a guy's livelihood, and I don't want to

518
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: get hyperbolic here, but I'm gonna be honest with you guys.

519
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: There's a chance that was the last time we see

520
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: Deshaan Watson on a football field. This season, for sure,

521
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: it's an achilles, but going forward, I don't know. We're

522
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: talking about a nine to twelve month rehab process. We're

523
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: talking about a guy who has been at the bottom,

524
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: and I'm talking for months now with his play. We're

525
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: talking about a guy who you know, I know, he's

526
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: got a lot of money coming his way, and hey,

527
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: don't cry for him, Crocodile's tears and all that, but

528
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: I think it's over for him. In Cleveland, they fault,

529
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: they lose the game. DTR comes in as the backup,

530
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: then he gets it's a pinky injury. It's an interesting story.

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Speaker 2: Why was DTR the backup and Jamis was the emergency quarterback?

532
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: If you want to get conspiracy theorist, the owner or

533
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Watson was like, hey, man, we hear the Winston stuff.

534
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: You want to shut it down and make him the

535
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 2: emergency quarterback. Winston was the emergency, but he actually had

536
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: to come in led them to a late touchdown drive

537
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the game. They didn't quite cover

538
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: the spread. But going forward, Jameis Winston's going to be

539
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: the starter for this team. It ain't gonna be Dtr.

540
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: We don't know how long he's gonna be out with

541
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: this hand finger thing. But what got really interesting was

542
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: after the game, Jameis Winston gave like passionate speech to

543
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: the media about how kind of cold and messed up

544
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: it was that the Browns fans were cheering Watson as

545
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: he's getting carted off and not in a good way

546
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: like finally he's gone, you know, or booing him like

547
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: get out of here, you suck. Like Miles Garrett step

548
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: to the podium and did the same thing, like it

549
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: is interesting that these guys seem to genuinely like Deshaun Watson. Now,

550
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 2: Garrett and Jamis are two outsized personalities. I don't know

551
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: if like offensive Lineman would feel the same way because

552
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: it's been a tough go for those guys with Watson.

553
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: But just a weird scene in Cleveland, and I'm I

554
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: think there's no way around it. Browns are headed toward

555
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: a top five pick and you have to draft a

556
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: quarterback and at that point, oh, the dead money did

557
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 2: just stop with the dead money guys. Four of the

558
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: top five teams in dead money salary last year made

559
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Not only can it be done, but it's

560
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: a quick, not solution, but it's quickly and wisely pulling

561
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: the plug so you can adjust on the fly. Hey,

562
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: by the way, how's that working out for Denver? After

563
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: the Russell Wilson dead cap? Oh my gosh, look at

564
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: all that dead cap. They're four and three, the defense

565
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: is playing great. You clean out the locker room of

566
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: the russ drama, and you just basically hit the reset button.

567
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: I don't even think the Broncos make the playoffs rop,

568
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter. They're on the path toward a

569
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: new beginning, a new start. The longer you keep the

570
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: Watson experience going, it still is a talking point. I honestly,

571
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: I think he's done in Cleveland at that point. Who's

572
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: picking up a guy coming off in Achilles with all

573
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: this baggage. I mean, Watson's got a lot to prove.

574
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: It is one of the weirdest career arcs I can

575
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: recall for a quarterback. I mean, I know Mike Vick

576
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: went through some stuff. Obviously, he ended up going to prison,

577
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: which is a little different than Watson, who simply went

578
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: to court and ended up paying a lot of money

579
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: and was suspended and now he's back, and it was

580
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: it was just a weird saga for him and Nan.

581
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 2: The Deshaun Watson at Clemson is nothing like the Deshaun

582
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: Watson that we saw this year with the Cleveland Browns,

583
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Speaker 2: and I do think it's over for him.

584
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Speaker 3: I would mostly agree with you at a minimum, it's

585
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: gonna put the Cleveland As to a decision. They're gonna

586
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: have to decide because we imagine they're going to be

587
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: picking somewhere in the top five to ten, maybe even

588
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: at number one. Of tell the rest of the season

589
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 3: goes well.

590
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: The Panthers are.

591
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: Really I mean so so the Patriots, so you know,

592
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: you know Patriots, My Raiders are bad, So they'll they'll

593
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: be up there. And there is going to be at

594
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: least one or two quarterbacks that should be available between

595
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: five and ten that many would view as potential franchise

596
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: type quarterbacks, you know, depending who you like. But there's

597
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: going to be someone available. We'll see though, because again

598
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski all the last month and a half has

599
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: maintained no matter how bad Deshaun Watson looked, and statistically

600
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: he has been the worst quarterback this season by far,

601
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: but one of the worst quarterbacks of the last twenty

602
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: years if you go by EPA like it's him and

603
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: JaMarcus Russell. We're in a battle to see who could

604
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: you know, have the worst mark Like that, that's how

605
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: bad we're talking with Deshaun Watson. So again, coming off

606
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: the Achilles on one hand, you say, hey, Kirk Cousins said,

607
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: looked okay, you know, coming off of torn Achilles. Aaron

608
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: Rodgers for all of his faults. So we just talked

609
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: about ten minutes ago has not looked, you know, like

610
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: a statue back there. He's looked okay as far as

611
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: you know, as a quarterback at his age. But Deshaun Watson,

612
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: the floor was so low already, and he's the guy

613
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: who historically relies on athleticism to make things happen. I

614
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: know he hasn't really in Cleveland, but so that kind

615
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: of changes the geometry a little bit. As far as

616
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: the fans booing, let me preface it by saying, I

617
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 3: personally would not boo him if it was me, if

618
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: I was, if I was he played for my Raiders

619
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: that happened I was at the game, I would not

620
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: boo him. Get in the Achilles pod, right, That's just

621
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: not me. At the same time, I would not condemn

622
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: anyone who did so, for Miles Garrett to say that

623
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 3: Watson has quote been a model citizen through college and

624
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: most of the pros. And for Jameis Winston, who, again

625
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: he gave that impassioned speech after the game, says, I'm

626
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: upset with the reaction to a man that has had

627
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: the world against him for the past four years and

628
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: he put his body and life on the line for

629
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: the city every single day. I hope that they understand.

630
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: For Lebron James, I want to read this tweet too,

631
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: because I know that he was in the locker room.

632
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: Here's what he said, Cleveland fans, you know how much

633
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: we've been throughout the year is good and bad and

634
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: and different. That being said, Booing anyone that's down with

635
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: an injury, let alone your own player, is lame af

636
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: to the ones who didn't salute again, I'm think I'm

637
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: speaking out to turn here. I don't believe the people

638
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: who were booing Deshaun Watson were booing him or cheering

639
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: his injury because he's been a bad quarterback. I don't

640
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: think they were cheering him because they were so anxious

641
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: to see Jameis Winston or to see dtr Under Center

642
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: because they think they can salvage the season. The people

643
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: who are booing Deshaun Watson and that injury or cheering

644
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: the injury has nothing to do with the on field product,

645
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: and everything to do with twenty seven sexual assault lawsuits,

646
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: everything to do with him and the front office basically

647
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: sweeping all of this under the rug and making it

648
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: seem like he's a victim in this situation, like he

649
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: deserves some sort of grace, and not the twenty seven

650
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: accusers that have all basically had the same version of

651
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: the same story over and over and over. I think

652
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: those are the ones who are cheering to see him

653
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: go down because in many ways, it's like you escape

654
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: any kind of prosecution legally whether there was any kind

655
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: of criminal case, and obviously there wasn't because they couldn't

656
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: bring charges up against them. You escape any kind of

657
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: real punishment from the NFL. You actually got rewarded with

658
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: the largest guarantee in NFL history at the time, and

659
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: you're still gonna get this money no matter how bad

660
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: you play, because the owner, rightly or wrongly, is committed

661
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: to you and in this financial situation, so to them,

662
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: it's like you allegedly committed some of the most heinous

663
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: crimes anyone can any free man can do, and not

664
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 3: only are you escaping any kind of punishment, you're thriving financially.

665
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: So I think that's where a lot of the victual

666
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: was coming from. And so for those guys to condemn

667
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: the fans, I understand standing up for your teammate, but

668
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: it's also a little bit tone deaf, to be honest

669
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: with you.

670
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean, my gut tells me it was more about

671
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: the play on the field only because we're if Watson

672
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: were throwing touchdown passes, he would be cheering. I at

673
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: least I think they wouldn't be like, oh, this guy's injured,

674
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: but you suck it out.

675
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: You know.

676
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: If he were playing well and got injured, I think

677
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: they would be sad, right, But he's playing awful and

678
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: he has that baggage. You know, if you win, it'll

679
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: cover up almost anything.

680
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Right.

681
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: We've seen a guy's historically go from not being like

682
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: to oh my gosh, he's a factor in winning. We

683
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: love him again, you know, and root for them. So

684
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: I think it's a tough one, but it's a good one.

685
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: But it is also good that we don't have to

686
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: talk about the Shaw Wonts for like another year. You know,

687
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: there's other tidbits I have. So I had my son

688
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: had his first volleyball tournament of the season. So I

689
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: was at the tournament Sunday, and of course I'm watching

690
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: on my phone and trying to watch his game and stuff,

691
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: and I didn't actually realize that Drake may Rob had

692
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: like a pretty good game. Now I didn't wake up

693
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: for that crap, but I'm you know, the volleyball starts

694
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: super early, so I was watching a little bit of

695
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: it and it was Jacksonville dominating when I'm watching, But

696
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Drake may actually had a pretty good game. And it's

697
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: weird because all of a sudden, you know, I know,

698
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels got injured and we'll see, hopefully it's not bad.

699
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, it's like, Okay, Caleb Williams

700
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: is on something of a heater, bo Nix is serviceable,

701
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: and like Drake Male, this quarterback class is starting to

702
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: come together, which I'm a little bit shocked by. I didn't.

703
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: I mean, especially early returns were like, oh, but these

704
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: guys are starting to look good.

705
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: NFL.

706
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: It's wow, man, I know people are gonna dislike my

707
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: Chiefs take and that's fine and whatever.

708
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: Guys, I get it.

709
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: You love certain people love the Chiefs. I just know

710
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: it's like an NBA fan, I love me a dynasty.

711
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: I love the eighties Lakers versus Celtics. I didn't like

712
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: the Bulls dynasty, but man, I could not stop watching

713
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: the Knicks try to take them down. The Pistons had

714
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: a mini dynasty. I think three trips to the finals

715
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: in four years or something like that. Obviously Jordan's Bulls.

716
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: Then you had Lebron had his own mini dynasty. Shaq

717
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: and Kobe had their own dynasty. The Curry Warriors, like

718
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: I love it. A dynasty is in the NBA For

719
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: some reason, I just don't like them in the NFL.

720
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: Now.

721
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: Maybe it's that the only dynasties we've seen, and I

722
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: remember the Cowboys from the nineties. I don't think I

723
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: had a strong opinion either way. I definitely didn't like

724
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: the Patriots dynasty because I'm a Jets fan. But I'm

725
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: just so over this Chiefs dynasty. Man, I can't get

726
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: behind it. And that's why I like rooting against them weekly.

727
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: Just like the NFL is about parody. They want everybody

728
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: to have a chance, and right now it kind of

729
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: feels like nobody has a chance. And the problem is

730
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: the Chiefs aren't even good. We went through it like

731
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: if they were you know the page. Listen, you guys know,

732
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't like the Patriots when they had Moss. You

733
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: couldn't take your eyes off that team. I think they

734
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: said an NFL scoring record that year, right, exciting fun

735
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: these cheese are that chainse game was so dull. This

736
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: game against the Niners was just boring. They're they're not explosive,

737
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 2: they don't have playmakers. They just went they grind it out.

738
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know, Ron, Maybe it's just me complaining,

739
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: but even like the Eagles win, to me, that's like

740
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: unwatchable football. I'm gonna rattle off for you. The only

741
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 2: receivers who had over one hundred yards on Sunday this

742
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: week so far, Okay, Number one was Keyon Coleman. A

743
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: lot of it had to do with a fifty seven

744
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: yard catchum run. Then it was Amara Saint Brown, who's

745
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: very good. Then it was Pickens against the Jets, and

746
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: then it was Breeze Haull, the running back. A lot

747
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: of that was on a fifty seven yarder. That's it.

748
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: Four guys over one hundred yards. Really, DK Metcalf had

749
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: ninety nine yards. Oh, by the way, his injuries doesn't

750
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: look good. Hopefully they get a good, good report. But

751
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: they got the Bills this week and no DK Metcalf.

752
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: That's not good. I like exciting and explosive, and this

753
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: league is largely becoming a lot of three yards and

754
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: a cloud of dust. Tank Bigsby twenty six carries Joe

755
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: Mixon twenty five. By the way, nobody we didn't even

756
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: talk about the Texans, but like I think CJ. Stroutford

757
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: threw for like ninety seven yards. Rob they had like

758
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: one hundred ninety seven yards of offense and most of

759
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: it was Joe Mixon. Like these these offenses are getting

760
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: really basic and afraid to make mistakes. And it just

761
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: a lot of boring football other than Minnesota Detroit and

762
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: kind of sort of green Bay Houston, although the numbers

763
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: say green Bay dominated that game. I didn't think the

764
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: games were particular interesting, did you. I found myself switching

765
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: a lot to baseball last night, obviously Dodgers and World Series,

766
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: but I just didn't think it was like an awesome

767
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: weekend of football, did you NFL that.

768
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: Is no, and I agree with you. I mean, the

769
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: Minnesota Detroit game was awesome like that. There was Haymakers

770
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: throwing both sides back and forth, and it's a shame

771
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: there were't not SA any more on talking about it.

772
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: But the reality is, you know, we got to talk

773
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: about what sells and what's going to get any interest.

774
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: And the Chiefs, even when they're not fun to talk about,

775
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: they get people to click. Deshaun Watson the same thing.

776
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: It's just I wish we could pinpoint exactly what it

777
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: was that makes these games less exciting, like it's it

778
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: can't be as simple as the too deep. There's got

779
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: to be more like I don't know if it's the

780
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: there's more to it right. I will say though, having

781
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: having most of my eye on the biggest screen on

782
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: that Packers Texans game and the second biggest screen was

783
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: on Lions Vikings. I don't know if this is a

784
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: hot take, but I think it was pretty clear a

785
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: month and a half into the season that the three

786
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: best teams of the NFC all play in the NFC North.

787
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't even think it's particularly close in some order

788
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 3: it's Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay and whatever.

789
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: No, no Eagles, no, just watching them just yeah.

790
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 3: I mean the Niners, they they've been they haven't looked

791
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: like everybody, they haven't looked like a good all season.

792
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: But those three, and I think Jordan Love changes the

793
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: trajectory for the Green Bay Packers because since he's come back,

794
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: even with all the turnovers, he's lighting people up through

795
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: the air and they have so many.

796
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 2: If they didn't turn it over all the time yesterday,

797
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: they wouldn't.

798
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: Mean they might be getting thirty five to forty points

799
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: a game if they if he didn't throw at least

800
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: two picks a game. But those three teams, to me,

801
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: not only can they score in bunches, which is what

802
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: we saw all on Sunday, but they play a brand

803
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: of football that is I'm not gonna say it's like

804
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: running gun like big twelve offense, like that's not what

805
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: it is. But it's unique play calling. It's creative, it's

806
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: physical when it has to be, like if they just

807
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: want to ground and pound you, they can, But they

808
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: can also run a trick play like Detroit run three

809
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: or four offensive lineman plays against Dallas last week. You know,

810
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: Green Bay has so many unique route combinations with all

811
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: their different receivers because they have so many that you

812
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: never know which guy's gonna pop off because they might

813
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: be dropping a play for Jaden Reid one play and

814
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 3: Christian Watson next th you know, oh Craft is going

815
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: to have a deep touchdown and he makes the circus

816
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: catch in the end zone. Like those three teams I

817
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: feel like are ahead of the curve, especially in the NFC,

818
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: and they're one of that little inner circle is like

819
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: one of the few groups that you feel confident going

820
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: on a week to week basis they at least going

821
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 3: to be an entertaining game.

822
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: Two of those will have to go on the road

823
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: in exactly. I don't think I totally disagree with you. Yeah,

824
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: it should be should be fascinating.

825
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,719
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831
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Speaker 2: I just want to put it out there because early

832
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: week betting helps. If you bet the Rams at four

833
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: and a half last Sunday early early Monday, then you covered.

834
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: If not it was up five, five and a half,

835
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: six seven, you didn't cover because Antonio Pierce is a buffoon.

836
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: So just so you're just so it's on the record

837
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: here early Monday morning. I have bet the Niners minus

838
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: five against Dallas Sunday Night football, Dallas off of by.

839
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: I don't care unless Deebo Samuel's you know, gonna miss

840
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: the game, then I get shafted. I think he'll be back.

841
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: My guess is Jennings is back. I think it's just

842
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: a bad schematic matchup for the Cowboys, so I think

843
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: the the Niners roll them. And I bet the Packers

844
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: minus four and a half against the Jags. I don't

845
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: know why the number is so low. Perhaps there's an

846
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: injury I missed, but rob, but those are the only

847
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: two I'm on for next week now for Monday night football.

848
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: You're not gonna like this. I have a total for

849
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: you over forty four Chargers Cardinals. I saw Marvin Harrison

850
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: is in. He's back from concussion protocol, so he'll play.

851
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: That's obviously key. The Connor Harrison McBride Murray quartet should

852
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: be formidable against the Chargers. However, I also don't believe

853
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: in the Arizona defense, so I'm on the over rooting. Obviously,

854
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: I'll root a little bit Chargers here, just simply because

855
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: you know they're an LA team. I want him to

856
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: be good. I like Justin Herbert, but nothing big for

857
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: me here, just on the total and then on the side.

858
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: In the other game, I was waiting for a four.

859
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a four. I had to take the

860
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: plus three and a half with Tampa, so I didn't

861
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: go significant at all here a medium sized bet on

862
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: Tampa plus three and a half. Here's hoping that the surface,

863
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: which is not a track and field set up for

864
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: for Baltimore, holds true and Tampa's able to kind of

865
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: hang in there with their three running backs. Unfortunately, if

866
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: you're doing fantasy, Bucky Irving, Rashad White, and Sean Tucker

867
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: all expected to get touches. That's not great. Mike Evans

868
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: is ago. I think Evans and Godwin could be in

869
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: line for big games. By the way, how about a

870
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: resurgence Chris Godwin. I thought he was done like last

871
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: year and they would move on from him. He is

872
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: having a monster year. I will be putting some on

873
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: Tampa money line. I just I have a feeling Tampa

874
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: shows up here and I know the Lamar stat twenty

875
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: two one one against the NFC. I got it, Jason.

876
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: How dumb are you? You got in front of the

877
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: Lions in the contest, you got in front of the Chiefs,

878
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: read off a bye, and now you're betting against Lamar.

879
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 2: Do you hate money? Somebody out there is saying that, Rob,

880
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, I think Tampa really is going to

881
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: be live here, and I'm sure because I'm backing Baker,

882
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: he will let me down the lose thirty five ten

883
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: anything from you.

884
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: Rob, Well, first off, Jason, I mean it's funny that

885
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: you don't care about money, because I think you've lost

886
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: more money in your couch than I make in a year.

887
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: So that's why it's not a big deal for you

888
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: to throw it like, oh yeah, I'll take the bucks.

889
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: You know, by the way, winning Saturday, winning day Saturday

890
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: and hit Georgia against Texas and winning day Sunday. I

891
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: just didn't win in the contest anyways.

892
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So I decided before you started, you know, making

893
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: your spiel for these picks that fresh off of one

894
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: and four friendly fade week and Week seven, there was

895
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: no way I was going to pick against the spread

896
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: heading into Monday night. I just not seeing the board correctly.

897
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't have the right mojo. I'm going to be

898
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: leading our listeners astray if I try to make a

899
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: pick against the spread. So I was like, you know what,

900
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna zig and zag and I'm going to take

901
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: us total. So when you took a total off the top,

902
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: I was like, well, there it goes all of my

903
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: you know, fun adding to this podcast. But unlike you,

904
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: instead of going Chargers Cardinals total, I'm leaning on Ravens

905
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: Bucks total. Because usually when you have two teams that

906
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: are this good, it ends up being at a lower

907
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: scoring affair, right because the defenses are or the teams

908
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: are too good, they're too well coached, and it's never

909
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: as high scoring as you expect. I don't think people realize, though,

910
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: that Baltimore and Tampa entering Week seven were one and

911
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: two in the NFL in scoring, Like maybe because it's

912
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield and people have this idea that he's just

913
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: an okay average quarterback. He is, quietly, I believe leading

914
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: the NFL in touchdown passes. Entering Week seven, this total

915
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: has crept up and up and up. I personally bet

916
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: it on Friday when it was at forty nine and

917
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: a half. It's now ticked up to fifty even still,

918
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: I got a pounty over on this one. I think

919
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna have over fireworks on Monday night in Tampa Bay.

920
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: Now that's interesting because I know I'm well, hold on,

921
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: let me just check. I think Washington Carolina, I think

922
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: that closed it fifty one, and of course Washington leads

923
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: twenty seven to nothing at the half that Jadon Daniels

924
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: gets hurt Lands on forty seven, Washington scored forty and

925
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: the other one that was over fifty was I guess

926
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: Lions Vikings, and that did clear the total. Yeah, fifty

927
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: one's a big number in the NFL. We shall see

928
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: should be a good night of football. Congrats to the

929
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: Dodgers and Yankees. Congrats basically to everybody but the Jets.

930
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow.