Speaker 1: Big Bank and DJ Scream bring you Big Facts in
Speaker 1: the street, a.
Speaker 2: Live from Revolt Studios in the at L Big Facts
Speaker 2: is time, Big Bank?
Speaker 1: What up?
Speaker 2: DJ scream, I'm here, the money is here on Big Fat.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Due? Everything? Good?
Speaker 2: Happy birthday to you. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 2: know made the age of twenty five. Man, congrats to you.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing. Life is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: Thank water. Yes.
Speaker 1: So what the money been on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: You know your name been in the headlines for a
Speaker 2: lot of different reasons.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, What the money been on?
Speaker 3: Working? Working, family, Jim, that's it.
Speaker 2: Work family, gym, your father of kids. You got a daughter,
Speaker 2: you got a daughter, tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: How to change you?
Speaker 3: Figuring out where my time should be spent, quality of
Speaker 3: a quantity, knowing that it's bigger than me. It's not
Speaker 3: about me shoes, So it's just a different gear. I
Speaker 3: don't switch.
Speaker 2: I feel like m hm, when the when the baby
Speaker 2: actually comes out, like at the hospital, tell my own experience, like,
Speaker 2: what's what's that?
Speaker 1: What was that feeling like for you?
Speaker 3: I would say hearing the first cry baby come out.
Speaker 3: Hearing the cries like damn, it's.
Speaker 1: Real make you think about life different, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's first thing I thought, like d it was.
Speaker 3: It was an idea at first in my head, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I don't really know how
Speaker 3: it's gonna feel, But damn, she came out and I
Speaker 3: heard that crys like yeah, this is the real deal.
Speaker 3: M m. Yeah.
Speaker 4: How do having a little girl make you just look
Speaker 4: at women in general?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say I grew up with sisters, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't much of a much of a change I would,
Speaker 3: I would say, not from a gender perspective, but just
Speaker 3: like a a parent perspective, like me, me knowing what
Speaker 3: I gotta do, and uh me thinking how my parents
Speaker 3: have had to do the same thing, and how then
Speaker 3: had a child around the same age that my parents
Speaker 3: had me. And like I would say, that perspective has
Speaker 3: changed me, but not like a gender role. I feel
Speaker 3: like I've always been understanding and you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I had sisters, so I never would
Speaker 3: want to treat a woman how I would want a
Speaker 3: man treating my women around me?
Speaker 2: You know, in fact, because you like, you know, one
Speaker 2: of the quieter people in the family. I think sometimes
Speaker 2: like when you drop music, people be like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: we didn't know, Like there's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 2: they particularly don't know about you that they might have
Speaker 2: you fucked up on. Like what's some of the things
Speaker 2: outside of the music that you might be like, Man,
Speaker 2: people kind of got me fucked up, Like I can
Speaker 2: do this, I can do this on fire, this on fire, this.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. Man. I mean before the music,
Speaker 3: I was into a lot of stuff, Yeah, anything creative,
Speaker 3: hands on, building something. I just wanted to see how
Speaker 3: stuff worked, taking apart stuff. I used to take my
Speaker 3: toys apart, try to build my toys, drawing, painting, stitching,
Speaker 3: cutting up clothes. But I was just doing a bunch
Speaker 3: of stuff, just hands on, like I said, But I
Speaker 3: never spend as much time with something else that I
Speaker 3: have with music.
Speaker 1: With music, when you know you had.
Speaker 3: It, I don't think I got it.
Speaker 1: You don't think you got it.
Speaker 3: Nah, come on, now the money stood it.
Speaker 1: Man, that's good, but you know you get it.
Speaker 3: It's always something, it's a little bit genetic, it's always
Speaker 3: something to learn. It's always something that could be better.
Speaker 3: Good I mean better as possible. Good is not enough.
Speaker 3: I feel like I got it? What else is there
Speaker 3: to do? Got you?
Speaker 2: But you kind of know when you got it though, right,
Speaker 2: you know you got some I don't got that perspective.
Speaker 3: Okay. I respect that.
Speaker 2: That's gonna keep you working, that's gonna keep you grounded,
Speaker 2: that's gonna keep you focused and get you where you
Speaker 2: need to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm telling you you got it, just mine,
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Get caught up in
Speaker 1: that mindset?
Speaker 3: Ain't no point? Yeah what is that? That sound like
Speaker 3: the end? Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you go? Ahead?
Speaker 4: You just feel like as long as you on this earth,
Speaker 4: you're gonna be creating.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, I don't want to master nothing. Back to
Speaker 3: what he was saying, I don't want to master nothing, man.
Speaker 3: So mastering it sound like you feel like you reached
Speaker 3: their ceiling, like this is it? Like I know I
Speaker 3: know how this go. And that's when it all just
Speaker 3: switch up and you don't realize you know nothing. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you shore you do it at five five? No,
Speaker 1: that's really shit.
Speaker 4: So as you mester some shit, then you get a
Speaker 4: gut gut complex about some shit and then you fuck
Speaker 4: around to make a mistake and some shit you thought
Speaker 4: you mestered.
Speaker 3: Right now, you're looking like an idiot. Yes, I don't.
Speaker 3: I honestly don't feel like I got it.
Speaker 4: You feel like you got something special when you get
Speaker 4: on the court, Do you feel like you have something
Speaker 4: special and unique?
Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna put one hundred and ten percent
Speaker 3: every single thing. Yeah, and how people perceive it, how
Speaker 3: it translates to the world, had nothing to do with me, Like, uh,
Speaker 3: that's all I know. I'm put one hundred ten percent
Speaker 3: into it. I know I'm excited about trying new things,
Speaker 3: and I'm excited about music, and I hear what people
Speaker 3: say in their feedback, and that's when I know if
Speaker 3: it's translating and if people paying attention to it as
Speaker 3: much as I've been paying attention to it. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two records you had to do, we'll just
Speaker 2: call them to protect your family, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: We'll call it them type of records. What was your
Speaker 2: mindset going into the records, Because this side of you
Speaker 2: is like.
Speaker 1: We love it.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm very humble, very grounded. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: saying like I said, that's gonna get you the where
Speaker 2: you got to go. But what clicked in you to
Speaker 2: get in that mold? Because that's a different I feel
Speaker 2: like if we would have talked to you that night,
Speaker 2: you would have been a little.
Speaker 1: Bit in a different character.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, it just moved me, man, It moved it
Speaker 3: moved my It's just real. It moved me, moved my
Speaker 3: pen and I really had them questions and King ended
Speaker 3: up I like to sit in the car and right
Speaker 3: every this whole past maybe three four five years, I've
Speaker 3: been just going in the car writing, even when I'm
Speaker 3: at the studio. I tell him send me to beat.
Speaker 3: I go sit in the car, write and then go
Speaker 3: back and record. So King heard the beat while I
Speaker 3: was playing in the car, came to the car like
Speaker 3: what you doing? Like, shoot, Man, just writing. I ain't
Speaker 3: know what I was writing, but shoot yeah, he just
Speaker 3: smile and they just win the studio. But it just
Speaker 3: moved me, man, I just know. I had started asking
Speaker 3: myself like why you know what I'm saying, why could
Speaker 3: someone do this? And then then I started seeing patterns.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Dan, why wonder like where this came from?
Speaker 3: What could make this person feel like doing this to
Speaker 3: other people like that and taking this route. So I
Speaker 3: guess that's where it came from.
Speaker 4: What you draw inspiration on most though what you draw
Speaker 4: inspiration from most.
Speaker 3: Really ain't no telling, man, I ain't dove into it
Speaker 3: enough to ask myself. But it could be anything. This
Speaker 3: conversation could be a food I ate honestly, could be
Speaker 3: me thinking how many people came in this room? How
Speaker 3: many what? What has these four whiles seeing? You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like, get creative. That's why I was saying,
Speaker 3: like that's where the excitement comes from with the music,
Speaker 3: Like it's so many different ways to attack it and
Speaker 3: to express myself. Could never feel like I got it
Speaker 3: or I'm done or I'm mastering something. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, It's always an angle for me to look
Speaker 3: at it and try it a different way.
Speaker 2: You feel like you and King balance each other out
Speaker 2: because y'all like kind of like polar opposites.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we say the yeah and yang.
Speaker 2: Just sometimes when you tell him like bro, all on chill,
Speaker 2: or sometimes he might tell you like bro, come on,
Speaker 2: fuck this ship.
Speaker 3: Like that's all the time, every day. That's always saying
Speaker 3: it to each other. But we we like we've grown
Speaker 3: to accept each other, and now we've seen that we
Speaker 3: kind of we're confident that we know how to handle
Speaker 3: each other, you know what I'm saying, We know how
Speaker 3: to handle ourselves in certain situations, Like King don't feel
Speaker 3: like I won't stand up or speak for myself. You don't.
Speaker 3: He don't feel like that no more. I don't feel
Speaker 3: like King would wouldn't be able to peep the room
Speaker 3: and realize, you know, it's not worth it. I don't
Speaker 3: feel like that about him no more. He don't feel
Speaker 3: like that about me no more.
Speaker 4: So how important it is to like separate your identity
Speaker 4: like to the world like far us what you do
Speaker 4: and what he do?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I used to think that was everything. I
Speaker 3: used to think that was everything. Now I don't really
Speaker 3: I don't look at it like that no more for real.
Speaker 4: For like they can see it, they can just see it,
Speaker 4: see it as it go.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But you thought at first, like I have to
Speaker 4: I gotta let people know, like I'm not my dad,
Speaker 4: I'm not my brother, I'm not my you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: From me to the point where I need to get
Speaker 3: away from them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's what you thought at first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to get away from them. I need
Speaker 3: to shoot. If we're going to an event, I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna go. I'm in the studio. I'm locked in. I
Speaker 3: don't know if we all walking together, we're gonna be
Speaker 3: in the back. Pop's gonna be in the front. These
Speaker 3: his kids, you know what I'm saying. That's Tip and
Speaker 3: that's his kids. You know what I'm saying. I felt
Speaker 3: like it was very important for me to be uh
Speaker 3: the money before his kids, or at least know the name.
Speaker 3: They'd be like kid, which one who's like, you.
Speaker 1: Didn't want to get lost? No, you didn't want to
Speaker 1: get lost in that?
Speaker 3: No, for sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah no, because even though you know y'all got the
Speaker 4: same morals and the same feminine origin, you could tell
Speaker 4: that everybody had their own identity.
Speaker 1: But that's what makes it make.
Speaker 3: Sense, right. I feel like I done got to a
Speaker 3: point where it's like I don't explain that people understand
Speaker 3: that I didn't want that to happen what I really
Speaker 3: wanted to happen. And now it's like, man, I'm just
Speaker 3: enjoying it. I'm glad I don't feel that way. I'm
Speaker 3: glad I don't got that cloud over you no more,
Speaker 3: and we're starting to see what that looks like for
Speaker 3: the money to really just be himself.
Speaker 4: I feel to know like you walking New York, but
Speaker 4: I don't know what it rang right.
Speaker 1: Thing? Hey, let me uh what I just said?
Speaker 3: I feel authentic path? What you saying ship, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just do my train out.
Speaker 4: I feel I feel to know you on your path
Speaker 4: or yeah, something like that my path.
Speaker 1: I hear people.
Speaker 3: I hear people tell me like, yo, don't change nothing,
Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing. And I hear that, Like
Speaker 3: I said, I don't really switch perspectives, try to look
Speaker 3: at it from the outside. I don't. I don't do that.
Speaker 3: I don't see no real value in that. I gotta
Speaker 3: stay in the game, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: it feels good knowing that it's translating properly, knowing that
Speaker 3: I'm helping people, me expressing myself as giving other people
Speaker 3: or the confidence they express themselves. Or maybe I'm saying
Speaker 3: something that they always wanted to say. You never felt
Speaker 3: like saying it, you never never thought they could say
Speaker 3: it here I am. So that always feels good.
Speaker 4: What about like being yourself is basically being different because
Speaker 4: everybody's trying to be the same in this world living
Speaker 4: in Right, we all agree on that, Like most people
Speaker 4: want to be the same, like want to fit in
Speaker 4: and be like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: that comes with a lot of disagreement with different people. Right,
Speaker 4: how do you handle like those comfort You let people
Speaker 4: have their perspective do it, or you try to god
Speaker 4: damn getting them to see your point, or you just.
Speaker 3: Let it be right. If I have a real debate
Speaker 3: with somebody, it's like I really rock with them, because
Speaker 3: if I'm having if someone else saying something I really
Speaker 3: don't agree with, then I don't really rock with them.
Speaker 3: Or it's like I don't feel like it's worth explaining
Speaker 3: my perspective because you already believe what you believe you're
Speaker 3: gonna I'm not, Finnah, trying to alter your thinking. Already
Speaker 3: said what I said, and I gave you enough to
Speaker 3: spark the idea for you to do your own research.
Speaker 3: Other than that you got it. So I just I
Speaker 3: just be trying to wig how much it's worth it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm wasting my time? Am
Speaker 3: I Am I saying something you really listening? Or am
Speaker 3: I just talking in there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, So, but if it's somebody you care.
Speaker 4: About, you want them to see at least see your perspective,
Speaker 4: like bro, just hit me out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I be real passionate, a real passionate about people
Speaker 3: that I care about, trying to explain if I feel
Speaker 3: like they doing something the wrong way, like talking about
Speaker 3: content content, or just how how artists be thinking like
Speaker 3: we be. We be so engulfed in the music and
Speaker 3: we realized until we realize that jump really not all
Speaker 3: about the music. Music. Probably music is a plus honestly
Speaker 3: everything else. If you're trying to be in the music
Speaker 3: business and how this john support your family and in
Speaker 3: generation down the line, you gotta put different hats on.
Speaker 3: You can't just just be creative, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I'll be passionate about stuff like that.
Speaker 2: What you feel like is your most precious asset obviously
Speaker 2: like not nothing material, but like what's your most precious asset?
Speaker 3: Mm hm uh. I would say being able to fill
Speaker 3: the room, being able to feel like the.
Speaker 1: Vibes of people, like discernment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, could relate understanding shooting, how to uh, explain that,
Speaker 3: how to how to paint pictures, and ways to explain
Speaker 3: things to other people?
Speaker 4: What's the pros and posing pros and cons for growing
Speaker 4: up growing up in the spotlight?
Speaker 3: Hey, pros and cons. Pros you're not starting from ground one.
Speaker 3: You're not starting from ground zero. H. Even if it's
Speaker 3: people knowing you for the reason you don't want to
Speaker 3: be known for, they know you're not starting for.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could change the narrative. So that's a pro con.
Speaker 2: H.
Speaker 3: Same thing. If you don't know how to change the narrative,
Speaker 3: you're stuck. If if you want to change it, you
Speaker 3: could be stuck if you don't know how to change it. Cons.
Speaker 3: People don't like damn, let me see. People don't like
Speaker 3: realizing what they thought is not actually what it is.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So eyeballs always on you?
Speaker 3: All of these things now I'm think about it could
Speaker 3: be just everything that I'm saying. It could be a
Speaker 3: pro or a con because you could.
Speaker 1: Want all eyeballs on you.
Speaker 3: You couldnt want all eyeballs on you. Yeah, So shoot,
Speaker 3: now you're right.
Speaker 1: Hey, have you ever.
Speaker 4: You know like how your daddy can teach you a
Speaker 4: lesson or give you some advice on something and then
Speaker 4: laid on down the line. You have to give him
Speaker 4: that same advice, Like, Bro, you remember you told me this,
Speaker 4: cause my son do that to me all the time.
Speaker 4: Come on being y ain't sticking to what you told
Speaker 4: me because you said it did before.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had to do that with tip man?
Speaker 3: Man, that's a good question. I'm pretty sure I have.
Speaker 3: But if I did, I wouldn't want to let it.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to tell it to him like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because record he got such
Speaker 3: an ego, but.
Speaker 1: He'll he'll clean it to remix it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to remix it, but he'll even though
Speaker 3: he got such a big ego, he'll clean it up
Speaker 3: around us and make and be more like receptive man,
Speaker 3: because I mean we were family. We can with me
Speaker 3: just keeping that in mind. I don't want to tamper
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 4: My all, Like come on there, you said it like
Speaker 4: I do some ship inn that ship I told him,
Speaker 4: but the Internet ship LIKEE and I go do something
Speaker 4: the other day like yeah, just be saying anything trolling whatever.
Speaker 3: That's King, that's Kim and King. But that's their relationship.
Speaker 3: Sometimes King would say something junk before me or too
Speaker 3: much you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, Or too much.
Speaker 3: I'll be handed down like hey this pops man, like like,
Speaker 3: come on King, nah man. But it's different though, can
Speaker 3: he'll do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hey, did you did you ever get slip ice even
Speaker 4: from your mom or your dad that you couldn't see
Speaker 4: as a kid, that you can see now?
Speaker 3: Dang, man, you that's a deep question. I just came
Speaker 3: from laughing. Damn, I can't think of uh shooting, I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't got nothing for you right now.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know how like when you're young, they might say
Speaker 4: everybody ain't your friend or this or that, and you
Speaker 4: couldn't see that, like man, these people love me. And
Speaker 4: then you get grown to be like, damn, everybody ain't
Speaker 4: my friend?
Speaker 1: Really everything man, just everything.
Speaker 3: Everything is my mom my, pops. Everything. They don't say.
Speaker 3: It's just like, how when am I gonna see it?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I can't pinpoint what have
Speaker 3: I seen so far right now, but it's just about
Speaker 3: it's a matter of time. It's always gonna be like dang,
Speaker 3: that's what they were talking.
Speaker 4: About what about the music injury, like something that you
Speaker 4: might have been warned about the music injury that you
Speaker 4: couldn't see and you end up seeing it.
Speaker 1: It don't have to be from them, just appear anybody.
Speaker 3: All money not good money. Uh, some people be weird,
Speaker 3: people do be weird. Uh, every some stuff could be
Speaker 3: too good to be true. Shoot, and everybody, everybody not
Speaker 3: your friend, like you said, but everybody gonna talk a
Speaker 3: good game, you know what I'm saying. That's that's their job.
Speaker 3: And everybody, Oh, they gonna try.
Speaker 5: They don't try, they gonna try.
Speaker 3: They gotta try. So that's just up to you about
Speaker 3: how you deal with it. But don't be upset when
Speaker 3: they gonna.
Speaker 4: Try it, you know how you navigating weed through the
Speaker 4: weird ship?
Speaker 3: Stay focused man, Stay focused. Hm, it don't mean too
Speaker 3: much to me, like because I don't expect much. I
Speaker 3: don't expect the utmost respect from people or just for
Speaker 3: people to just be like me. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't expect that, So I don't get too upset or
Speaker 3: devastated hopes up about stuff.
Speaker 2: Like that when you get into like the music ship,
Speaker 2: Like did you get in with like certain particular goals
Speaker 2: or did you just jump in on something like, Man,
Speaker 2: this is just how I'm feeling nothing to get into
Speaker 2: the music and and start creating as a way to
Speaker 2: just express myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got into it as a kid, so I
Speaker 3: didn't know none of I wasn't thinking about, no, honey.
Speaker 3: I knew what it looked like to be a celebrity
Speaker 3: or a rich artist or just famous, but the actual
Speaker 3: money I wasn't thinking about none of that.
Speaker 1: Thinking about him more now the business.
Speaker 3: Because I got a family, got a family, and just
Speaker 3: because like I would do it for free, but.
Speaker 1: You don't have to.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it for free, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's like and then it's bigger than me. Man,
Speaker 3: It's it's bigger than me. And shoot, they gonna get paid.
Speaker 3: So it's like, why you're not getting get paid? Was
Speaker 3: gonna get paid from me?
Speaker 1: Was gonna make money and some music being put out?
Speaker 2: You right, somebody gonna make some money when I get.
Speaker 4: And what make you take like the grind route instead
Speaker 4: of ship you favors of my family name.
Speaker 3: I was so young making them decisions. I'd be asking myself.
Speaker 3: I'd be sometimes myself the same thing, but I would
Speaker 3: guess maybe it didn't feel real or it didn't feel
Speaker 3: like you would have been the uncompassingent, like, yeah, it
Speaker 3: didn't feel right, Like I wanted to be able to,
Speaker 3: uh do it. You know what I'm saying. I wanted
Speaker 3: to be able to do it, and I knew if
Speaker 3: I did it, it's gonna be me. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, It's gonna be one hundred percent of meat
Speaker 3: because this is how I did it. I knew it
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna be respected, but even bigger than that, it
Speaker 3: wasn't me. I wanted it to be me, And I
Speaker 3: guess maybe that comes from years of me feeling like
Speaker 3: people didn't see me or didn't know me. Mm hmmm hm.
Speaker 2: What's like just coming up and listening and obviously you
Speaker 2: heard a lot of your pops music like What's What's
Speaker 2: What's one of the records of mixed tastes of albums
Speaker 2: we here like Man Pops Snap and it kind of
Speaker 2: motivated probably Man King.
Speaker 3: Urban Leisure, Urban Leisure paper trail.
Speaker 2: Do you tell your stuff d Do y'all have that
Speaker 2: open relationship where like, if something ain't it, y'all express
Speaker 2: that to each other, y'all ain't a fan of it, Like, well,
Speaker 2: he tell you like, I don't know you can go
Speaker 2: harder than that when you tell him the same, y'all
Speaker 2: got that type of relationship.
Speaker 4: The hardest in the house out of everybody. What I'm saying,
Speaker 4: like who the hardest? Who the family favor? Okay, we
Speaker 4: know Tip got the bigger name of the rapper, but
Speaker 4: who the hardest rapper?
Speaker 3: Like heat the hardest? We got different stuff here you go.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying somewhere it's like you got the spoon
Speaker 3: knife for it? Like who how it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: But if y'all want to get on the song to yell,
Speaker 4: who's gonna kill it the most?
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving? Man? We got we got all uten Everything you
Speaker 3: need is right there in front of you with that,
Speaker 3: that's all it is, big feast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you feel like, what generation, even though you
Speaker 4: fit in this generation perfect, what generation do you think
Speaker 4: your style would have fit in the most if you
Speaker 4: can go to a generation?
Speaker 3: I think I'm dope, bro, no dope any like anyone. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just because I'm gonna put one hundred and temper cent
Speaker 3: into something. So it's like it's just about how bad
Speaker 3: somebody want it so, and it's about translating. You gotta
Speaker 3: speak like I look at that like speaking that generation's language,
Speaker 3: or because you can't, you can't. We it's two totally
Speaker 3: different generations. Like what they understood, we may not understand
Speaker 3: now and vice versa. So it's just about, Man, I
Speaker 3: feel like I want it bad enough to where I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make sure it's translating. Like if we have the
Speaker 3: conversation and let's say you speak a slightly different language
Speaker 3: and I still don't want to get this message to you,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure I get this message across the ship.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, I'm gonna get told for this, but I
Speaker 2: got to go ahead and put it out there. So
Speaker 2: I'm in the barbershop right in my homies noticed in
Speaker 2: the group chat my debate is that, And I know
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna say too much about it, man, I'll
Speaker 2: be like, Man, the Money harder than J Cole to me,
Speaker 2: I listened to more the Money and J Cole that's
Speaker 2: just me personally, you know what I'm saying. And that
Speaker 2: just came up because of styles of music and vibes
Speaker 2: and music and stuff like that. In your respect, how
Speaker 2: would you What would be your reply to that? If
Speaker 2: I text you something like that, I said, bro, we
Speaker 2: was in the barbershop, because it's a true story, actually happened.
Speaker 1: What would be your response to that.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I already knew what it was I received that.
Speaker 3: I don't take that lightly. That cool. I just had
Speaker 3: to put it out there because I know the homies
Speaker 3: was they was on my neck.
Speaker 2: Two of us agreed, though two of us adamantly like agreed,
Speaker 2: like nah, we agree. But the rest of them, you know,
Speaker 2: they feel like you got a little more work to
Speaker 2: put in before that particular place.
Speaker 3: But you know, well that's dope right there, the barbershop conversations.
Speaker 3: I feel like we all want to be in the
Speaker 3: barber for auto accolades and the charts and the man.
Speaker 1: You would be in the mix of your people right exactly.
Speaker 3: So that's dope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, did anything, He'll stick with you, like like
Speaker 4: just a surprising support, you know, like somebody can hit you,
Speaker 4: like somebody hit you with something like that. If you
Speaker 4: hit you with that, tics like what's the most memorable
Speaker 4: message or support that you don't got, Like damn that ship?
Speaker 1: That makes me feel different right there?
Speaker 3: Uh, man, Kendrick Andre just just letting me know that
Speaker 3: I'm on the right path like that John was dope. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so simple stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Man, the type of energy that give you though.
Speaker 3: Confirmation. Yeah, like let you know, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm doing it. Yeah, and I got it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess you you. I would I move a little bit
Speaker 3: different knowing that anyone would move a little bit like you.
Speaker 3: It's no longer when it's my time, I'm gonna kill it. No, yes,
Speaker 3: kill it there, yes your time. You on stage right now?
Speaker 1: What you do the elements is for a classical album.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Thank I will say. That's a good question. Man. It
Speaker 3: gotta be today. It gotta be today, meaning I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about that the generation question we were talking about. You
Speaker 3: gotta speak the language of the day that you're in.
Speaker 3: You gotta bring people together, multiple generations, gotta bridge some
Speaker 3: gaps mm hmm. It gotta you gotta tell a story
Speaker 3: that probably hasn't been told before. Different perspective, paint a
Speaker 3: different picture that we probably dang like, I didn't think
Speaker 3: about that, you know, I didn't know about that. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, we can still enjoy it while
Speaker 3: we're making memories, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 3: a part of our memories. You play it if you
Speaker 3: had a function, you at the club, you play it
Speaker 3: in the car. You can play it with a vibe,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And that's how you make
Speaker 3: it a part of people's lives, all the all them things.
Speaker 1: Like people will go back and say, like.
Speaker 2: You talking about two thousand and five, and oh, that's
Speaker 2: when that was out, you know what I'm saying, or
Speaker 2: twenty or that's when that was out. That's what I
Speaker 2: feel like it is when it's kind of like you say,
Speaker 2: like a bookmark for the time in history that you
Speaker 2: know is classic, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Then that's when you know how you get older, you
Speaker 3: be like, man, you don't know nothing about this. You
Speaker 3: don't even know what was going on? Did this from that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you were able to say stuff like that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: when you know there's timeless.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you major major made that project a part of
Speaker 4: the coaches Like even if you just like the twenty
Speaker 4: sixteen challenge came, Yeah, everybody started posting the race triminems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that is that.
Speaker 4: Was that took over twenty six Yeah, what is called
Speaker 4: a mallein talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, ah, stuff like that. Man, if someone is
Speaker 3: able to say that, man, you know, if you were
Speaker 3: there at this time, you knew what was going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is yeah man.
Speaker 2: Since since twenty twenty, though, do you feel like them
Speaker 2: years missed them projects? Because now I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 2: like what was what? Twenty twenty was honestually fucked up?
Speaker 2: But you feel like some of them years missed them projects? Well,
Speaker 2: not just because of COVID. I like we talking about
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. I can think of twenty all the way
Speaker 2: up to wind Nip Passed. I could think of like
Speaker 2: the album that kind of like represented that year, and
Speaker 2: then Baby had his album that one year, and you
Speaker 2: know he was going crazy and shit. But like twenty twenty, twenty,
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty two, I don't really have an album
Speaker 2: that I associate with them years me personally, that's a
Speaker 2: good one.
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like you said the baby a
Speaker 3: little baby. Let's see, uh.
Speaker 1: Colorilla Gloria go crazy that yeah.
Speaker 2: Females yeah, Travis, Yeah, Okay that we.
Speaker 4: Literally in right now y'all think gonna live like right again,
Speaker 4: what what does happened like in twenty twenty six, that
Speaker 4: y'all think of live l like they'll be talking about
Speaker 4: for thirty.
Speaker 2: Years musically, just period shout as warship, whoa the war
Speaker 2: that's going on and oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're gonna talk about that for that history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's history.
Speaker 3: I was thinking of music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, music, I'm just.
Speaker 4: Saying it was in general, but yeah, the cultural anything,
Speaker 4: the cultural music.
Speaker 3: The war. I don't say, God damn me thinking music.
Speaker 2: Man, Drake and Kendrick, Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's
Speaker 2: twenty four though, right, But I feel this time just
Speaker 2: in the time period, yeah, Drake and Kendrick for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't a lot of ship been going on? Man,
Speaker 1: That's what I was just saying.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing in the Centers movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see try wow yeah watch your trial for sure.
Speaker 2: That's history, the Puff trial. Yeah yeah, Puffy, yep, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be feel yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah man, and all these sense of his murders and
Speaker 4: ship like that last level and niggas just pantsing away.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What youall think? How you think twenty twenty six is
Speaker 1: gonna play out?
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts?
Speaker 1: How I feel so far?
Speaker 3: Man? For a while, I don't feeling like this the
Speaker 3: wild wild West right now. So it's like we it's
Speaker 3: not so cookie cut it like compared to how I
Speaker 3: think it was, uh fifteen twenty years ago. We all realizing,
Speaker 3: I mean, because we don't in all switch social media
Speaker 3: with the algorithm. It's like your followers don't matter as much.
Speaker 3: It's like you gotta put out some dope stuff. You gotta,
Speaker 3: you gotta people gotta say this is dope in order
Speaker 3: for it to really travel. So I think the tables
Speaker 3: have turned, and like people see that and they know, like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I gotta come on my a game.
Speaker 2: Even with AI and all this ship that people actually got. Yeah,
Speaker 2: people actually got to work harder. Though that's kind of
Speaker 2: what I was saying.
Speaker 3: Too much competition.
Speaker 1: They got work harder with AI.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it makes it seem like you don't a
Speaker 4: lot of people trying to make it seem like a
Speaker 4: I can think for you them.
Speaker 1: Then it can. But what's gonna separate you from the
Speaker 1: next person?
Speaker 3: If you competing with AI, you're probably gonna go harder
Speaker 3: than if you before. You said so if you're competing
Speaker 3: with if you're an artist, whether you you painting them,
Speaker 3: you do photography, photos, you do film, or you do music,
Speaker 3: and you know you got AI out here and you
Speaker 3: compete with AI. Don'te else to just use AI, or
Speaker 3: they could choose to use you.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get, you know how, the bad ship because
Speaker 4: you're coming from your thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're finnah, turn up, you're finish. Try to make
Speaker 3: something that their computer can't make, you know, yeah, or
Speaker 3: even just knowing that these kids, it's kids out here
Speaker 3: with no budget, no nothing, blowing up getting the opportunities
Speaker 3: that I want. I gotta go crazy. They just doing
Speaker 3: this off of a phone. Yeah, I gotta go crazy.
Speaker 3: I got this.
Speaker 4: I got no excuses, no real crazy though. I don't
Speaker 4: think I don't start seeing music videos and stuff with
Speaker 4: the AI the ship looking at.
Speaker 1: Her, little man.
Speaker 3: It ain't ain't got me yet.
Speaker 1: It ain't got me yet, But I'm just saying it'll work. Work.
Speaker 3: You still feel like it's a out of like you
Speaker 3: just AI. That kind of disconnect me just a little bit.
Speaker 3: But it's cool that I'm watching something, but it's like
Speaker 3: it's AI.
Speaker 4: You think the world going into the y'all think it's
Speaker 4: gonna go to that though. You think the raw shit
Speaker 4: gonna start looking weird and that she's gonna start looking
Speaker 4: on them. Not, of course not because it's you gotta
Speaker 4: think CDs looked like CD before when tapes came out,
Speaker 4: CDs looked like niggas didn't.
Speaker 1: Want to I'm keeping Mone out in the iPod. She
Speaker 1: don't got on your phone.
Speaker 4: People saying that, like, Bro, I'm sticking to the COLDE.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep my CD and you start seeing moke Van.
Speaker 1: So's that ship gonna be the new normal?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ai is gonna be there for sure in that respect,
Speaker 3: even though we could still say I think it's gonna
Speaker 3: get the point where we don't we ain't gonna be
Speaker 3: able to tell whether aar or not. But even if
Speaker 3: we do tell like, we're gonna be more like some
Speaker 3: what is Ai? It's cool.
Speaker 1: It's just how she just changes.
Speaker 2: I think the best knowledgy I heard is that man
Speaker 2: Ai is the slave and it still need a slave driver.
Speaker 3: Somebody still got to tell her what to do.
Speaker 4: Ship different, Bro, Like the more you typing everything, you're
Speaker 4: putting personality inside of the computers. Every second, everything you do,
Speaker 4: where you're talking, you moving, whatever you're doing, these content
Speaker 4: you putting personality inside.
Speaker 3: Hey, I just.
Speaker 4: Building more personality than a kid, than anybody, because it's
Speaker 4: down everybody in the world is feeding into this ship
Speaker 4: just by typing and living and walking in front of
Speaker 4: the cameras and ship.
Speaker 1: You giving this ship personality. Get this ship. Show you
Speaker 1: how to walk through everything?
Speaker 3: You like this conversation?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like I do that.
Speaker 3: I like a like.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know how to use it. I want
Speaker 1: to learn slave driver.
Speaker 4: No, but I'm telling you, bro, you can type. I
Speaker 4: don'et type ship in there before and they ship.
Speaker 1: Tell you no for sure?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Like like knowing facts and stuff.
Speaker 1: Just like SAFENSI don't even really need no lawyer.
Speaker 4: No more do these little country I don't stick the
Speaker 4: countries and the Hey put it in a rebublal. They
Speaker 4: said that ship right back to the far like man say,
Speaker 4: I just paid my lawyer two and twenty five hundred
Speaker 4: drop drift U the pay.
Speaker 3: I just did it right, that's real. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: tool for sure fulk But knowing that a lawyer may
Speaker 3: feel like, you know what I gotta I gotta come
Speaker 3: with something. I gotta bring something a little bit different.
Speaker 1: What can you bring in that situation.
Speaker 4: Now, fight for me and I can't get a out
Speaker 4: of walking there if I got a speeding ticket to
Speaker 4: fight for me.
Speaker 1: No, But but if you.
Speaker 3: Study enough, you may have more relationships.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, I'm like a contract, Like right now,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to sign the money to god damn.
Speaker 1: To do to write for me.
Speaker 4: I can send you a proposer that I don't need
Speaker 4: to pay my lawyer to do right now through AI
Speaker 4: easy through check.
Speaker 1: And it'll be legit. So how can they compete with that?
Speaker 3: Relationships?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Relationship everything?
Speaker 4: We already got relationship, me and you? What the fuck
Speaker 4: will need talk for me and you?
Speaker 2: I think wouldn't I think would have come to maybe
Speaker 2: let's say you.
Speaker 1: Doing money negotiations. The lawyer might be able to lean
Speaker 1: and have that.
Speaker 3: I know what I want, all right?
Speaker 1: What I want?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I feel what you said. It works.
Speaker 2: No, it works, it works for sure, no question about it.
Speaker 2: But still even though they got no way more cars
Speaker 2: driving around the ships fuck up sometime and run over.
Speaker 4: Dolls, fuck up sometimes and run over doll.
Speaker 1: It's more regular people than that car.
Speaker 3: Well, the way more just started.
Speaker 1: It's been long enough go ahead.
Speaker 3: The whole reason Uber created Like well I heard like
Speaker 3: someone told me the company Uber don't really profit or
Speaker 3: make too much money because they give it all to
Speaker 3: the drivers. They waiting on the self driving cars. And
Speaker 3: then that's when they're gonna get all.
Speaker 2: The or the world trying to cut out the middle
Speaker 2: man on everything. That's gonna be. That's gonna be the
Speaker 2: way of the world.
Speaker 4: It's gonna come affect because would you ready to get
Speaker 4: in the cold the nigga?
Speaker 1: You on know, a car just keeping a break. Get
Speaker 1: you don't know, this is just a car. Once they
Speaker 1: make bigger way modes, I'm getting in them right now.
Speaker 3: They're just too small, bag and forth with no computer though,
Speaker 3: Like if it's a dude in the car and he
Speaker 3: may want some ill attention, you know, it's like a
Speaker 3: possibility you could probably talk to him. Wait a minute,
Speaker 3: hey man, what's going on? Like how much? What's going on?
Speaker 3: I got what you need? You can't stop.
Speaker 5: You can negotiate, brother, brother, here you go, I got kids,
Speaker 5: call your heff and take you where you are.
Speaker 3: The button is already pressed. That's that's a perspective.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he look at it like that ship. I take
Speaker 4: my chance with their car with the computer. Shoot one
Speaker 4: is out there now. But I'm just saying the new
Speaker 4: normal is is among us for sure, and we you.
Speaker 1: Could be stuck in old times if you want to.
Speaker 1: That ain't gonna work for you.
Speaker 4: Break so many niggas that feel like they sticking to
Speaker 4: the cold that would never prosper because that mindset won't
Speaker 4: work in these times.
Speaker 1: I almost been one of them niggas, like feeling like
Speaker 1: I could just.
Speaker 4: Be stuck on an old ass cold that don't exist
Speaker 4: no more, it don't even exist, especially not in the world.
Speaker 1: That we're trying to be.
Speaker 4: Enough I was in the streets, it probably would because
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, that that code just automatically
Speaker 4: what it is. I'm saying, been in the industry and
Speaker 4: in front of cameras and how the fuck I'm going
Speaker 4: to be a street nigga and sitting in him doing
Speaker 4: the podcast that don't even make sense? How the fuck
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a street nigga and a podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seem like in some street ship.
Speaker 4: And I still gotta come to work now that niggas
Speaker 4: put my business out because I'm a street nigga that
Speaker 4: don't even make sense.
Speaker 1: That don't make.
Speaker 2: Sense, we said, saying, like we always said, the game,
Speaker 2: the rule book is different.
Speaker 4: You have to when the game you get in, you
Speaker 4: may have to start at the bottom and figure that
Speaker 4: game out and build that up. I know how to do.
Speaker 4: I know how to leave this ship right now and
Speaker 4: go stand on the block and everything, what to do,
Speaker 4: how to peak? Who are police rub me? I know
Speaker 4: how everything I mastered that we keeping the break. I
Speaker 4: know how to slimb gime whatever. I know how to
Speaker 4: do whatever to give me someone out the streets.
Speaker 1: But that ain't the same ship.
Speaker 2: So that's that, like he was kind of saying earlier,
Speaker 2: since you know you mastered that, it's not that light
Speaker 2: not even give you the thriller of even think about
Speaker 2: that ship.
Speaker 4: And this gives you because this gives you more a
Speaker 4: thrillin That's why I play golf, because I normally hit.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hit way more bad shot and good shot.
Speaker 4: But I'm challenging myself this ship here, this a podcast game.
Speaker 1: Here here they leave us off all the lists.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like we don't even exist,
Speaker 4: big fat, But that ship give me a drive because
Speaker 4: I did start right here.
Speaker 1: I don't know, nark.
Speaker 4: I came out the streets.
Speaker 1: So for me to even be able to have money
Speaker 1: on my ship, no me, No, let me know I'm
Speaker 1: doing something right. I can get there because I got there.
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. Then when we do that,
Speaker 4: what's the next ship?
Speaker 3: You feel?
Speaker 1: I could be driven?
Speaker 3: But so what's some confirmations like oppose, like outside of
Speaker 3: having different guests, because you could just have a good
Speaker 3: relationship with with twenty one with me, Like, what's some
Speaker 3: confirmations that let you know like yesterday's price is not
Speaker 3: today's price? Like you you really moving?
Speaker 4: Uh, the more comfortable I get at doing it, it
Speaker 4: ain't got nothing to do with the money, none of
Speaker 4: that ship or or who I can get on because
Speaker 4: I got I call any of these niggas, they'll come
Speaker 4: get on the podcast. I just wait till they call me.
Speaker 4: I call any niggas and won't take no for us.
Speaker 1: Like damn, yeah, damn easy to do that. These are
Speaker 1: my friends.
Speaker 4: But the confirmation is just the more comfortable I get
Speaker 4: at doing it, year by year, month by month, more
Speaker 4: comfortable get the more I don't feel like I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck. Basically, like I don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: it if y'all know I can't really speak and talk
Speaker 4: and pronounce my words like that this bank. So the
Speaker 4: more comfortable I get with me being me, that's my confirmation.
Speaker 3: That's dope. Is there an amount of money? Is there
Speaker 3: an amount of money that like like you're saying this bank,
Speaker 3: this you like you comfortable, you say whatever you want
Speaker 3: to say? Is there an amount of money that you
Speaker 3: would take? Be like, you know what, I ain't gonna
Speaker 3: say that. I ain't gonna say I'm gonna dial it back.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it money. Yes, yeah, yeah, I ain't Kanye.
Speaker 4: Okay, because you ain't gonna say, Hey, they ain't paying
Speaker 4: me the ship the fuck up?
Speaker 1: Don't wait, No, I'm gonna talk to the ship the
Speaker 1: fuck up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amount of money. Ain't the amount of money
Speaker 4: they can get for me to not be me? But
Speaker 4: I die back because sometimes I say ship and I
Speaker 4: be craying, like damn, I shouldn't probaly see myself.
Speaker 3: Sure, so here here.
Speaker 1: They could pay me to not sation shit. I know
Speaker 1: I shouldn't take.
Speaker 3: That's real shit.
Speaker 2: Talk about that project man forever lasted the tape. How
Speaker 2: I come together, how you feel about it? What's been
Speaker 2: the response? All that type of.
Speaker 3: Shit came together because people like the song forever Lasting
Speaker 3: me DC on fly set, the Hindreds. People like that.
Speaker 3: They said they wanted a longer version, more versus, they
Speaker 3: wanted more people on it. And then I've been hearing
Speaker 3: people say, you know what, you give me a whole
Speaker 3: project with that vibe. And then I started listening. I said,
Speaker 3: you know what, there actually is more to the story.
Speaker 3: So I made a part two of Forever Lasting, and
Speaker 3: then I told a fuller story of Forever Lasting, which
Speaker 3: turned out to be the tape, and she got like
Speaker 3: an international feel on it.
Speaker 4: That's good, Yeah, would you like more recording? The recording
Speaker 4: process of getting in front of the fan.
Speaker 3: Hmm, getting in front of the fans for sure, getting it,
Speaker 3: getting in front because man, ain't nothing like seeing an
Speaker 3: idea turn to reality and see how it's translating. Uh,
Speaker 3: that ain't nothing like that for real, for real, because
Speaker 3: you you knowing in your head, damn, I just thought
Speaker 3: of this stuff, said this is just how I felt.
Speaker 3: Were just having a good time and started in the studio.
Speaker 3: Three people in the room, now thousands of people out
Speaker 3: here screaming the words. So ain't nothing like that.
Speaker 4: You just didn't came out to it with k Camp.
Speaker 4: What's the shit you learned on on the tour on
Speaker 4: this tour that you never just learned just by doing
Speaker 4: shows on y'all.
Speaker 3: Too and ship me and Camp cool. So he allowed
Speaker 3: me to see like, uh more of the back end
Speaker 3: on the on the tour and like how to move
Speaker 3: in pieces work. Uh shoot, man, this junk costs this.
Speaker 3: This you happened this, I was doing this like this
Speaker 3: before I did this. These people helped me do it.
Speaker 3: Like he he really showed me some stuff like that
Speaker 3: because we already had a relationship and and he's just
Speaker 3: that type of guy. I would say that's the difference
Speaker 3: in just seeing seeing the type of crowd he could
Speaker 3: bring together like he got he got a good energy
Speaker 3: in the venue every single night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah sold that co Yeah, just get their hometown love.
Speaker 4: Just see people just fuck with you also like right
Speaker 4: here for me too, man.
Speaker 3: That was felt amazing. Man. But you know, I always
Speaker 3: know at the end of the day, I feel like
Speaker 3: there's more work to be done. Man. But but that's
Speaker 3: when I rode out my candles and they was going
Speaker 3: crazy about the candles.
Speaker 1: Bring candles either, man, you see we got candles on
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 3: The mind dang get us right, I'm gonna get y'all one.
Speaker 3: But that show probably like the last last week of
Speaker 3: the tour, candles just going crazy. And then Atlanta showed
Speaker 3: me like, okay, these folks they not even talking about
Speaker 3: none now, they just saying where the candles? Where the candles?
Speaker 3: I like the show, but you got some cans like god, damn, okay,
Speaker 3: look at that you put them up on the site.
Speaker 3: Damn the site right now, the cannon's been going crazy.
Speaker 1: Man booming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, so you gave your phone number the fans
Speaker 4: whatever about?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So that was just a conversation. Man. You know
Speaker 3: how you're talking to a girl and you're all right,
Speaker 3: that's the same information. Take my nuther, let me get
Speaker 3: your number. What we're doing. It was a conversation. I
Speaker 3: didn't think too much about it. I ain't know it
Speaker 3: was gonna go as crazy as it went, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was just as simple as that. A lot of
Speaker 3: my songs be conversations. I just said my number.
Speaker 4: Did you get did you get any text that stuck
Speaker 4: with you?
Speaker 3: Plenty? Text messages and plenty of voice messages cause good vibes.
Speaker 3: And that's another way people ask me, do I regret it?
Speaker 3: I don't regret it. It's not too much. That's a
Speaker 3: way where I can know in real time how stuff
Speaker 3: is translating, because people gonna call me, they gonna tell me.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like the relationship I got with
Speaker 3: my fans, with my people, they know that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I could be real with them. Sometimes
Speaker 3: they'd be like, you know what, I like your stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that one. I gotta see where
Speaker 3: you're going through. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But yeah, hey, do you like to send records for
Speaker 4: people to jump on and get create the vibe together?
Speaker 3: Whatever is necessary. However, we need to get it done
Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, we can get in right now for sure,
Speaker 3: so we know in real time what we need to do.
Speaker 3: Do we need to pivot? Do we need to change it?
Speaker 3: What you want to do? I can let you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: you got or range, you got, you got full creativity,
Speaker 3: do what you want. A lot of time, when I
Speaker 3: send records or when people send records to me, we
Speaker 3: don't know like it. It's a lot of unknown things.
Speaker 3: We don't know how much they want me to do. Uh,
Speaker 3: Can I do less bars? More bars? Can I be
Speaker 3: more creative? You know what I'm saying? Then you don't
Speaker 3: want to step on Nobody told me like, I don't
Speaker 3: want to go too crazy, and then they don't use it.
Speaker 3: So it's like sometimes when you in the room, all
Speaker 3: of them things could be answered in real time and
Speaker 3: you can figure out more and y'all can feed off
Speaker 3: of each other and make each other go crazier. So
Speaker 3: it's just really about whatever's needed. If I got to
Speaker 3: send it, I'm gonna send it and let you know, X,
Speaker 3: Y and Z whatever's needed. Man.
Speaker 4: On the Dreaming record that you and getting in the studio, y'all, yeah.
Speaker 3: We was in there with the vibe. That was one
Speaker 3: of the best sessions man, because it was so unpredictable
Speaker 3: just last minute. I an't even know we I ain't
Speaker 3: know that was gonna happen. So I be I got
Speaker 3: my pops page because he it was a time where
Speaker 3: he didn't want to be on Instagram, he didn't want
Speaker 3: to be on his phone. The only person he trusted
Speaker 3: was me, so he was like, shoot, you got my page?
Speaker 3: You know the content junk. You got it. So I
Speaker 3: said Key Glott had reached out, So I said, I
Speaker 3: let him know. I said, yeah, key Clot reached out.
Speaker 3: He said, yeah, talk to him. So I'm talking to
Speaker 3: Key Clock as at like I'm Pops, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, he said, he said he had a show.
Speaker 3: He wanted Pops to come out. I said, all right, bet,
Speaker 3: I told Pats, you gotta go to the show. He
Speaker 3: wants you to come out. It went to the show,
Speaker 3: he performed, and then he told Key Glott pull up
Speaker 3: to the studio, but he'd like double booked himself. He
Speaker 3: forgot he had to be somewhere else. So when Key
Speaker 3: Glock got to the studio, io told me to go
Speaker 3: to the studio make sure he was straight because he
Speaker 3: wasn't able to pull up at the time. All right, bet,
Speaker 3: So we got there, we started talking. I did make
Speaker 3: sure he's straight, and then it was a point where
Speaker 3: I was like, shoot, it's working on You got to
Speaker 3: his like you're gonna do something. He said, yeah, we
Speaker 3: made that song.
Speaker 4: That's hard again. Memphis in Atlanta. What you think connected
Speaker 4: with both of y'all? What y'all think connected like Memphis
Speaker 4: in Atlanta Ortis is how they just connect like.
Speaker 1: That sound that based at eight o eight. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We all came up on like three six Tommy Wright,
Speaker 2: all that type of ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean we really like, you know, they be having
Speaker 2: a little crunk and whatever. The name of that ship
Speaker 2: was debate back and forth, but it's always like respecting
Speaker 2: love at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm be real, I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar.
Speaker 1: Who like three six?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, little John.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The sound of that basically, yeah, that whole debate John
Speaker 2: from Atlanta, Well, John from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But they had this ship called get Buck in Memphis.
Speaker 4: Really did start in memphid did because what's the name
Speaker 4: that they were doing three season?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I can't say, because we'll bring some people
Speaker 1: in here. We're gonna bring some mephitis. Oh Jesus to
Speaker 1: let us know about this ship. But we were on
Speaker 1: booty shape musically, Yeah, that's what we.
Speaker 2: Was on, so we gotta But then it kind of
Speaker 2: started adapting to that, like if you go back to
Speaker 2: like the five five nine to Gate all that type
Speaker 2: of shit. That was the sound in there, Ball and
Speaker 2: g you know what I'm saying, all that type of shit.
Speaker 2: So Significent in Atlanta is like locked in and all
Speaker 2: the songs.
Speaker 4: On the project, which one like tell your story the most?
Speaker 3: Waiting so Long? Because that's about me, uh, trying to
Speaker 3: balance being gone to chase my dreams and provide and
Speaker 3: create that stability, trying to balance that life with being
Speaker 3: there and being at the house, being a father, being
Speaker 3: a partner, being a good a good man. So I'm
Speaker 3: trying to balance them things at the same time. And
Speaker 3: I feel like that's relatable with just all men, Like
Speaker 3: we all got to figure out that balance, Like we
Speaker 3: hate leaving, but we know we gotta leave. Shoot. So
Speaker 3: I would say Waiting so Long, that's that's the one.
Speaker 4: What's your struggles right now to this day? Like listen,
Speaker 4: shit you struggle with the world might not know.
Speaker 3: I gotta read more books, shoot, prioritizing my time more.
Speaker 3: Let's see being more? Ah, what is it? Not even
Speaker 3: not more emotional, but knowing because sometimes it takes, sometimes
Speaker 3: it takes for me to leave a situation, for me
Speaker 3: to think about it in my head and play it
Speaker 3: over in my head, for me to realize what happened
Speaker 3: or what was really what that person was really saying,
Speaker 3: what was really going on? I was saying being there emotionally.
Speaker 4: You're saying being able to process things quickly in the moment.
Speaker 3: In the moment, yeah for sure.
Speaker 4: Like I want to be the processes right now because
Speaker 4: emotional Yeah, because people are taking away feeling like you
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck, but then you go home with
Speaker 4: process and then you give a fuck to really give.
Speaker 3: A fuck, and I didn't know that that's what was
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a good right there a lot of
Speaker 4: people where do you think they come from though?
Speaker 3: Just being so down then? And then I would say,
Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like I gotta be or it's best
Speaker 3: for me to be the man, like unphased, like so
Speaker 3: they're so they'll feel comfortable to tell me some stuff
Speaker 3: like that time I just get a little too unfazed
Speaker 3: where I really don't feel it. It's really like I'm
Speaker 3: not feeling it. I feel like I want you to
Speaker 3: be comfortable to express yourself. And if I'm feeling it
Speaker 3: in real time with you, you might feel like that
Speaker 3: I should have told him that that just affected him
Speaker 3: a little bit too much. So probably that, but but
Speaker 3: being too diwed in for sure. But I want people
Speaker 3: to feel comfortable telling me stuff, so I don't want
Speaker 3: them seeing it affected me. So I'm trying to figure
Speaker 3: out how to express that. But not you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: It was just this comes from a documentary I was
Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, just talking about like how artists maybe
Speaker 2: you can get too big, like you might have disrupted
Speaker 2: the well being a Michael Jackson not being normal printing
Speaker 2: justin Bieber's and all these other people.
Speaker 1: Do you think the artist can get too big?
Speaker 3: I think it's all intentional for the most work. Now
Speaker 3: you could you could, you could aim for that. I
Speaker 3: believe Michael Jackson he aimed for that. You wanted. He
Speaker 3: didn't probably know what it, what it really meant and
Speaker 3: what that, but he probably said I want to be
Speaker 3: the most famous person in the whole wide world. He
Speaker 3: aimed for that, you think.
Speaker 2: But do you think if he could do it all
Speaker 2: over again, rest his soul, would he do that? Because
Speaker 2: that ultimately lead to his demise.
Speaker 3: I think Mike wanted to be the best man. I
Speaker 3: think he will probably want to handle it different, but
Speaker 3: he wanted to be the best.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, what's your aim? Like, what's success
Speaker 4: meaning to you?
Speaker 3: Okay, she says, doing the stuff that I love to do.
Speaker 3: I have said this before too, so that's why I
Speaker 3: sound like this. Doing the stuff that I love to do.
Speaker 3: Have that jump fund my lifestyle and make it the
Speaker 3: word I'm able to tell the people that I love. Yes,
Speaker 3: I want to be like, yeah, mom says she want
Speaker 3: to go and do this. Yeah, we could do that.
Speaker 3: We can do that because I'm working, But it don't
Speaker 3: feel like I'm working because I'm doing what I love
Speaker 3: to do. Shoot that success but at the same time,
Speaker 3: not having to be away, not having to be with,
Speaker 3: not having to be away from home. Okay yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: choosing to do what I need to do, what I
Speaker 3: want to do. That success, man, being able to work
Speaker 3: without realizing I'm working because what I love to do,
Speaker 3: and it's putting me in a position to provide and
Speaker 3: say yes to the people. I love it.
Speaker 4: You know, what's some accolades that you want? Do you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying that the music came like, grandman,
Speaker 4: what kind of accolades you want?
Speaker 3: I just want to be able to make music with
Speaker 3: the people I want to make music with. I don't
Speaker 3: want to feel like someone else feel like it's not
Speaker 3: worth it. You know what I'm saying. Ah, Man, he's not.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be worth it.
Speaker 1: You don't need validation basic.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just like, if I feel like dang, Kendrick
Speaker 3: gonna sound dope on this, I want him to want
Speaker 3: to do it too. I want him to be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to get on that. I don't want him
Speaker 3: to feel like or no one feel like dang, bro,
Speaker 3: you gotta work a little bit harder, like you can't
Speaker 3: just unlock me. Yeah. So I want to be able
Speaker 3: to use all the tools and work with all the people.
Speaker 2: What's your process of doing the feature for somebody else,
Speaker 2: because now that you got fans, some of those fans
Speaker 2: are obviously gonna be a artists too late.
Speaker 1: How do you pick and choose?
Speaker 3: Damn, I just dope stuff. I just whatever resonates with me.
Speaker 3: It maybe sometimes when I'm not there, like I'm not
Speaker 3: there in life, like I don't feel like I could
Speaker 3: get at with what I think it deserves. I'm not
Speaker 3: in that space and it be like that that's real.
Speaker 3: So I just want to be able to complete the mission. Man,
Speaker 3: give it what the song. Give the song what I
Speaker 3: feel like it deserves for sure the money.
Speaker 4: Hey do you feel like did you see yourself get better?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: You know how you like? Damn?
Speaker 1: Sometimes I can see like, damn, I just killed that shit.
Speaker 1: How often that happened?
Speaker 3: Seeing myself get better? Yep? I see for the most
Speaker 3: part today is me seeing me balance get better with
Speaker 3: balancing some stuff like I'm not leaning too much over there.
Speaker 3: It's not too lyrical, but not a song at the
Speaker 3: same time, because sometimes you could be barred up. But
Speaker 3: it's like they really want a song, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So balancing that, balancing, working with people. Shoot,
Speaker 3: then it's a lot of political stuff like balancing, balancing
Speaker 3: that if you and it's like guitar Hero, like guitar
Speaker 3: Hero and you hit the right buttons at the right
Speaker 3: time and they say perfect, perfect, multiple things at the
Speaker 3: same time. Like if I want to make a song
Speaker 3: with the producer being from Atlanta, the feature being from Atlanta,
Speaker 3: the sample from Atlanta, all them things lined up and
Speaker 3: it's a dope song and I still got bars and
Speaker 3: it's you know what I'm saying, Like I'm getting I
Speaker 3: see myself getting better with balance and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: being more accurate. That's what I would say.
Speaker 4: Do you do you did you ever recorded a song
Speaker 4: that exceeded the expectation of the song you was trying
Speaker 4: to record, like damn crt.
Speaker 3: Hmm, okay, so the best I don't know how to
Speaker 3: answer that, but I'm gonna say the best the stuff
Speaker 3: that did with some stuff that I didn't think was like.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is what I'm saying, like this shill shock you,
Speaker 4: like this is what they want that I ain't even putting,
Speaker 4: no really no effort into this ship.
Speaker 3: And that could be confusing because because that was forever,
Speaker 3: last time, forever lasting. We was genuinely just having a
Speaker 3: good time. We didn't know what was going just you
Speaker 3: pull up, all right, let's.
Speaker 1: Do it, magic ship magic.
Speaker 3: But then that could make you feel like this, how
Speaker 3: need to treat everything?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, you can't because it's your music,
Speaker 4: really is your your journal and your diary. Like you're
Speaker 4: still letting us in and let us get to know you.
Speaker 4: But okay, cool, it's gonna come the magic moments. It's
Speaker 4: gonna keep happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just how they're gonna keep happening as you
Speaker 1: keep doing what you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but artists could get confused because it's like the
Speaker 3: stuff that they probably the best versus the best double
Speaker 3: line times like triple people don't even care about it,
Speaker 3: people not listening to it. But then this right here,
Speaker 3: so people could be confused. Yeah, that's why I choose
Speaker 3: not to get into it like that. It don't it's
Speaker 3: not helpful for me to look at it in that way.
Speaker 4: Then you start chasing that and lose yourself lose Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: there it is lost.
Speaker 1: So you don't. Yeah, the artists expression.
Speaker 2: Man, as long as you're expressing yourself and being true
Speaker 2: to yourself, then you're on you're on the right path.
Speaker 2: That's how I look at it. It's when people start
Speaker 2: trying to express other people's whatever live stories, journeys or
Speaker 2: whatever the case is, that's when it gets flawed.
Speaker 4: But it's hard not to He's god damn success when
Speaker 4: you see you can do it, okay, ship, then you
Speaker 4: go to things with that what they want from me?
Speaker 4: I mean telling you heard nigga say that, But this
Speaker 4: is what they.
Speaker 1: Want from me, bro for sure, Like tell you no
Speaker 1: stick up brother? Fuck that?
Speaker 4: Then what they want from me this ship working, you
Speaker 4: go to chasing it, you go down a rabbit hole
Speaker 4: and then you get stuck in character.
Speaker 1: True story.
Speaker 3: That's why I feel like I don't got it, bro,
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm good. You mean like I'm always
Speaker 3: willing to learn something.
Speaker 1: That that dope?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's real, that's real. I respect that got
Speaker 2: it is. What I'm saying is got it is you
Speaker 2: on the court, you're hooping and you know you got something.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I belong here, You
Speaker 2: feel like you belong in that studio. Do Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 3: Anybody got something?
Speaker 1: You know, everybody got everybody on the don't put me
Speaker 1: on the court. I ain't got nothing you can make.
Speaker 3: You're gonna make a shot at the right time, the
Speaker 3: right person looking and be.
Speaker 1: Like hey luck, I got luck.
Speaker 3: Yeah enough luck.
Speaker 2: Though, I feel like it's the same thing how you
Speaker 2: feel it, how you feel about the Golffe. There's confidence,
Speaker 2: but there's like humility and the same respect, like right
Speaker 2: and y'all like that.
Speaker 3: You respect for life though you know any time table
Speaker 3: could turn.
Speaker 4: Yeah eleven eleven year old the money looking at the
Speaker 4: money now, want to know how you get to be you,
Speaker 4: what would you tell me?
Speaker 3: Follow your spirit, man, follow your heart one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: because that's literally everything that I done. Win against some
Speaker 3: people what they say, they think I should do, what
Speaker 3: they what the industry said we should do. I did
Speaker 3: some stuff that I probably don't like. I don't know
Speaker 3: what what made me do that, but following my spirit,
Speaker 3: following my heart manner. I don't got to tell my
Speaker 3: young self nothing because I'm so hard hited. I'm finna
Speaker 3: do that. I'm finna do it. So what, man, We're finished?
Speaker 3: See this due, Let's see what happened you see?
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think you done. Congratulations on the project too, bro.
Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate to your open door anytime. Man, any
Speaker 2: find words of the people.
Speaker 3: Keep doing what y'all doing, Man, I ain't got y'all
Speaker 3: hurt everything. Honestly, it's really all that main stuff. You
Speaker 3: can do anything you put your mind to. Read some books,
Speaker 3: drink water.
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