WEBVTT - Miami Misery Loves Company 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.840 And we're back with another episode of Separation and Anxiety. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:13.200 I'm your host, Marcus. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.480 Jordan and I'm Larsa Pippen. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.520 And it's been a little minute since we've done an episode, right, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:18.239 I know. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.800 I feel like it's definitely been a minute, and we 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.239 have so much to talk about it. I feel like 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.560 it's time to start. We need to start talking. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.160 Yeah, I feel like we've been living life. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.320 You know, there's a lot of drama, there's a lot 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.560 of content going on, and so I think it's a 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.519 great time to kind of reignite the podcast. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.760 Well, I kind of feel like when you know, when 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:39.040 we're filming Housewives, it's a lot like yes, summer in Miami, 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.800 filming Housewives is like hot, We're filming all the time, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.320 you know, we're bickerings. It's kind of stressful. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.040 Yeah, I mean, obviously you finished filming Housewives. You took 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.000 like two weeks off, and then we went to Scotland 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.640 to film The Traders, and so it's definitely been a busy, 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.640 busy you know, past few weeks. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:58.160 We obviously had Bravo. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.360 Khan, the new season of Real Housewives of Mine Yammi 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:01.840 is on, So it's definitely it's been crazy. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:02.680 It's hectic right now. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.760 So let me ask you a question. Would you do 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.600 The Traders again? If you were asked to be on 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.000 it again, I definitely. 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:08.399 Would do it again. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.600 It was it was a unique experience, you know. I 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.480 didn't realize how serious they take the competition there in 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.240 terms of like, you know, being secluded away from one 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.240 another and not being able to talk about the game 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.560 all the time. No phones, no phones, no controllers in 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:24.240 the rooms. 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:25.920 No, it was just a lot. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:27.839 It was like we didn't even have our key cards 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.840 to our room, you know, we had to be escorted 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.880 to and from and I think the hardest part for 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.000 me is not being able to stay with you. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.840 You know, we couldn't stay in the same room, which 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:36.480 is crazy. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:37.279 Yeah, I'm excited. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.560 I do feel like being on The Traders, Like if 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.280 I had to compare The Traders to Housewives, it's so 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.679 different because I feel like the physical aspect of it 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.400 is hard. It's like challenging, Like we had a couple 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:49.720 of those things I thought I was going to die on. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.000 Yeah. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.120 No, but I think that was my favorite part, just 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.080 because like the missions, you know, it just you know, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.280 I grew up watching MTV's the Challenge and like Survivor 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.880 and all that stuff, and so to be thrown into 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.000 that type of universe, I think it was fun. And plus, 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.520 you know, you don't have your phones, there's no outside distractions, 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.800 and so I felt like every day we were looking 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.200 forward to the suspense of like what's today's mission is 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.359 going to be, and like, I we survive. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.920 You know, literally, I was stressed out every morning. I'm like, 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.080 oh my god, am I going to be murdered? Am I? Like? 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.799 Just so many different things, and then, like you said, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.640 the missions were really challenging. Yeah, she was very physical, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.480 and I thought I was in great sheep until I 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.000 got there, and then I realized I can be in 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:27.480 better shape. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.480 Now you're definitely in great shape. I mean I look 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.320 at you every day. So which one do you think 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.840 is harder to do? Is it Housewives in Miami or 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:35.440 The Traders? 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.440 I kind of feel like the Traders because it's more 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:40.359 stressful every day. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:40.720 Yeah. 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.160 Yeah, and you're being thrown into a castle with a 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:45.960 bunch of people you don't know, and it's hard to 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.120 like gauge people and who you're gonna like. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:49.680 No, it's definitely a unique game. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.519 So but I love it. I would do it again 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:53.000 for sure. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.960 I definitely would do it again. I feel like it was. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.800 Uh and honestly, the producers were amazing. The cast that 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.120 they chose was so much fun. I ended up we 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.160 ended up liking everyone. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.880 So yeah, it was a great cast and so I'm 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.359 excited for it to, you know, air next year. But 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.320 I guess we'll have to We'll have to wait for 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:07.920 that right now. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.800 Okay, let's talk about Bravo Con. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.120 Let's talk about it. You know. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.280 You know, I'm still sick from Bravokan. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.799 Yeah, I mean you definitely were a little under the 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.160 weather all weekend, but you pushed through. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:19.520 I mean you had a busy schedule. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.959 Yeah, there was a lot going on. But it's amazing 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.920 to see how much Bravo has really grown. Yeah. I 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.320 like it way better in Las Vegas than New York. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.680 Yeah, I just feel like it becomes like a true 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.720 destination thing. It's like, you go to Vegas for Bravocan. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.680 When it's in New York, I feel like there's so 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.920 many other things happening in the city that's it kind 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.800 of gets lost in the sauce a little bit. Yeah, 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.440 but they did a great job in Vegas. The production 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.840 was through the through the roof. I mean, Andy's always, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.080 you know, a top notch dude. Shout out to Andy now, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:48.640 he's the best. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.960 We had so much fun. I feel like getting you know, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.480 getting a chance to see all the other you know, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.160 franchises and just where half these people have come from me, 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:58.360 you know. 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.680 Now it was over one hundred and fifty voelebrities from 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.400 all different types of shows, and you know, there was 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.360 a little bit of drama. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.440 I feel like it and the beef is real on 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.560 these shows, you guys, like it's definitely real, and I 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.440 felt like I was kind of witnessing it. Yeah, like 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.160 when we're hanging out with like Terreesa Judais and then 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:17.919 like I'm scared to post her because I feel like, 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.919 am I going to offend Melissa. It's like a weird situation. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.320 But I almost feel like it's like other people's beef 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.520 and we shouldn't get involved. Yeah, and then I feel 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.280 like Caroline Stanbury, she's one of my best friends. She 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.480 has beef with a lot of people. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.880 Yeah, So I think that was something that I, you know, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.679 didn't really know going into Bravo Khan, but leaving, I realized, like, Okay, 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.920 you know she's allegedly she's a shit starter, is what 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:39.599 people say. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.640 No, I mean I love her so much, she's so 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.559 not But I do feel like when I was meeting 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.279 I met a couple of girls on her show, and 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.479 they're like, Oh, we wanted to say hi to you 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.800 last year at Bravo Con, but you know we were 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.240 scared because we knew how close you are to Caroline. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.200 And I'm like, oh, so then I can't be nice 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:55.920 to you. And I literally said that to him, like, oh, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.280 I'm very loyal to my girlfriend, so by the way, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:04:59.960 I can't really be friends with you now. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:00.280 Yeah. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.440 No, I think it's easier for the guys, for sure, 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.840 just because you know, for us, we don't get as 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.840 tangled as much in the drama. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.480 So you know, I was hanging out with Louis, who's 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:11.560 Teresa's husband. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.760 Yeah, I was hanging out with Joe, who's Melissa's husband, 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.279 hanging out with Sergio, who's Caroline's man, and so you know, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.400 I just feel like it's easier for the guys to 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.000 kind of navigate because it's less Caddy. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.839 I guess, no, for sure, But what about Jennifer Aiden 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.960 and Danielle. I felt like, I'm so close to Jennifer 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.400 that I don't know Danielle, and so I'm going to 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:33.440 leave that one alone. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:34.880 Yeah, I mean, look, it's different. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.279 Their situation got physical. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.120 Yeah, that's wild, you know, and it happens. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.720 But you know, I feel like if it's hard to 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.839 I feel like you have to make your own opinion 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.919 about people. You know, as you interact with them, you 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.720 can kind of make your decision on you know, who's right, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.000 who's wrong. But if you don't interact with that person, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.800 then it's kind of like just let it be. Just 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.240 let it be, stay out of the way, you know. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.839 Okay, So we're two episodes into The Real Housewives in Miami, Okay, 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.239 and how do you feel seeing yourself on TV? 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.360 You know, I feel like it's easy. You know, Look, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.640 I played basketball my whole life. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.080 I've obviously been someone in the limelight my whole life, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.279 and so you know, filming I felt was natural for me. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.400 And so but the thing, the tricky thing about watching 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.279 it is that you are at the mercy of the editors, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.920 you know a little bit. And so that's the one 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.680 thing that I was a little nervous about is am 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.480 I gonna look right on TV and I feel like 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.080 I'm doing doing fun killing you. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.240 No, you're great. But I did see a few of 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.560 the girls rolling their eyes like mirrorsol when we or 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.320 when we were kind of like all over each other. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:31.680 Yeah, I mean, I think we're gonna get to that 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.240 in a little bit. But uh, I just think, you know, look, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.160 misery loves company, and I think we love each other 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.440 so much that sometimes it either helps other couples or 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.800 it could be a distraction for other couples or put 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.480 their relationship on notice, because you know, if you're not 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.360 happy in the confines of your relationship and you get 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.839 around us with so lovey dovey and touchy and stuff, 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.520 it's it's sometimes like why don't I have that? Or 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.400 I would like to go have that? And so I 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.440 think we've seen it a lot in our personal lives, 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.560 and so Bravo was like an extension. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.039 Of that, you know, no, totally. Even Sergio Sergio was 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.520 like Caroline's husband. He was like, I want Caroline to 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.960 be grabbing me the way you grab market, right, And 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.760 I was like, We're just used to being all over 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:11.520 each other at all the time. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.320 I think people have different love languages, you know, and 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.000 one of our love languages is touch and you know, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.480 being all over each other and hints the title of 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.240 our podcast, Separation Anxiety. You know, we always want to 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.120 be together, I know. But talking about going back to 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.680 brabo com for a second, were there any other provelebrities 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.840 that you bumped into that maybe you didn't get along 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.720 with or you were surprised that they were so friendly? 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.520 No, I feel like everyone has always been pretty friendly 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.520 to us. Yeah, I think so, I do. I mean, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.040 we did run into Gerty, and I've just been avoiding her. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.480 You know, I feel like it's a situation that's so delicate. Yeah, 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:48.480 that's the word delicate. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:49.520 Yeah, No, for sure. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.360 I mean, obviously, you know, her health is the main priority, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.520 and you know, I'm happy to hear that she's cancer 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.520 free now, at least that's what she said at Bravo Com. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.720 But you know, as the show plays out, you know, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.200 you have a little bit of a of a spat 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.960 and so, uh, you know, what's what's your takes on 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:07.080 how it's gone so far? 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.680 You know, what me not knowing? You know, the first 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.760 two episodes, I didn't know that she had cancer and 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.240 she was crying and she was saying, I'm gonna call 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.800 for you. But we're not close like that, so I 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:20.120 don't know what she's saying. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:20.360 You know. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.200 I think when you have a real friendship and a 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.600 real bond, you don't have to say the words and 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.960 I'll understand what you're saying. But her and I have 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.160 never really been close, so it's kind of hard to 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.960 gauge where she's coming from and you know what's going 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.560 on because one minute she's yelling at me and then 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.920 she's saying, I'm going to call for you. Yeah, And 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.520 so for me, I just I'm just confused. And I 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.640 don't want to come off like as being a bitch, 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.360 because it's not what I am. But at the same time, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.440 I'm like, I just don't know what's going on. I'm 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.720 so lost, like genuinely, like I'm completely lost, and so 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:51.040 I'm you know. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.360 Yeah, no, I think over the next few episodes, or 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.400 at least the course of the season, you know, you'll 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.959 see the story play out. And honestly, I'm looking forward 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.360 to the reunion just because you know, at the nally 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.560 and they tease it in the trailer, you know, Russell 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.439 got a little vocal with you also, and so I'm 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.800 you know, I'm looking forward to having that conversation with Russell, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.319 like y'all keep that same energy, because when I'm around 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:10.600 he's pretty quiet. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.280 You know, well why is he talking to me? Why 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:13.400 does to stop? 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.040 And that's my main thing is like, look, as a 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.880 man on the housewife franchise, stay out of the women's business, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.280 stay out of the women's drama. Let the ladies handle 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.920 their thing, you know what I'm saying, don't get in 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.160 the middle of it. And so, you know, I don't know, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.679 we'll see, We'll see as the as the season progresses. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:31.679 But yeah, how about you, know, like you said, two 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.160 episodes of aired, are you do you feel like family 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.280 and friends are reaching out to you? I know my 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:37.920 mom has you know, We've been sending my mom the 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.800 episodes a little early, just trying to keep her in 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.880 the loop. She's a huge Andy Cohen fan, and so 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.400 you know, she's reached out. She's excited about it, at 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:47.040 least so far. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.560 But what about you, I mean, I feel like it's good. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.520 It's just I feel like my my situation this season 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.360 is going to be challenging because it's like I'm arguing 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.559 with someone that you know is sick, and how do 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.319 you art like I? And I'm the funny thing is 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:02.400 I'm not even arguing. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.079 With her, well, I think, And that's the thing is like, as. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.000 It progresses, I'm the beneficiary of the like you know, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.360 I'm the punching bag. So it's like hard for me to. 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.360 Like, I think your personalities are very different, very different, 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.640 and you know, I think the way you guys communicate 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.400 is very different. And so I just think that there's 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.040 a lot of misconceptions. I know that you come from 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.440 a good place, your intentions are always you know well, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:28.839 and so yeah, I don't want to give too much 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:29.679 away without you. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.000 Know, lives there. But I also feel like before Alexias party, 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.679 her New Horizon party, I had called and texted Gertie 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.600 when she said that I was being fake, And so 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.160 when I saw her, what other choice do I have 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.280 besides address it, like, Hey, why did you say I 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.600 was fake? It's not like I wanted to like ask 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.520 that Alexias party, but I just wanted clarity. I was like, Hey, 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.959 I called, I texted you. Why would you say that 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.200 about me when I've always been there to support you? 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.560 I've been her biggest fan, and so for me, I 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.560 just don't like, you know, not having ann standing of 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.520 where we are in our relationship. I feel like clarity 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.440 is really important any relationship, and so it you know, 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:07.720 I just wanted to know what was going on. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.360 I think one of the things that I love about 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.040 you the most is that you like to tackle shit 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.839 right away, you know, and so if somebody says something, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.960 or if there's a task for you to do, you know, 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.440 you like to address it in as soon as you can. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.360 And so I think that's a little bit of what 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.520 happened in that episode is that was the first time 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.440 you'd seen Gerty since that comment, and you wanted to 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.640 address it. And so obviously she's had she's got other 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.920 things on her mind dealing with her diagnosis. But you know, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.080 you didn't know that. So your thought process is let me, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.199 you know, let me clear the air. You don't like 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.200 murky water, which you've said repeatedly, and you know that's 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:43.760 that's kind of how it all fell out. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.600 So let me ask you a question. What did you 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.880 think about the whole thing with Alexis party. So, yeah, 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.240 so I asked Gerty the question, Yeah, but with Todd 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.920 not being there. Was it weird for you going to 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.040 Todd's apartment and him not being there, or were you fine? 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.200 You know, I didn't realize that Todd wasn't there until, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.160 you know, half way through the party, and so I 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:03.679 definitely think it was a little bit weird. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:03.920 You know. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.280 I understand, you know, his concerns and his you know 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.000 cause for pause or whatever. 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.880 But you know, I just don't. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.320 As all the guys were there except for Todd, you know, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.360 and so I just feel like it was a little 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.000 bit weird. But I also kind of understand, you know, 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.720 where he's coming from. But I will say, you know, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.080 once you guys started turning up a little bit, and 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.719 I think it was Julia and Marisol started going at 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.600 it a little bit on the couch. That's kind of 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.480 like my cue to like peace out, go grab some tequila, 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.280 you know, let the ladies do their thing. I think 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.240 Anthony was the first one to step out, and I 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.080 jokingly said, look, I'm not far behind you, and I 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:40.400 really wasn't. No. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.360 I know, sometimes you know, and our arguments are like 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.040 we like to kind of get it off our chuest. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.839 You know, we spend a lot of time together and 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.920 if we have issues, it's hard to like just throw 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.720 them under the rug, you know, like sweep them under 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.720 the work rug. We're not good like that. I feel 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.200 like we're all outspoken with strong women, so it's like 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.760 if we have issues with each other, I feel like 0:12:58.760 --> 0:12:59.600 we address them. 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.680 Yeah, And I think, look, as a guy in that instance, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.959 you know, you have to always support your woman, right 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:05.839 or wrong, you. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.960 Know, but I'm always right though, right, You're always right. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.120 But I just think, you know, it's as much as 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.040 you can let the women handle their business, you know 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.480 what I'm saying, don't get in the middle of it 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:16.800 at all. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:28.720 Yeah, totally. So a lot of people were questioning, you know, Alexia, like, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.920 so did Todd not show up because of Adriana or 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:34.240 was Alexia hiding something? 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:35.560 Yeah? 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.600 You know, look, I think that's kind of the hidden 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.600 storyline right now, is that there's trouble in Paradise or 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.000 there's financial issues whatever. You know, from what I've seen, 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.280 I think that they're doing fine. 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:46.400 I do too. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.400 You know, I'm a big Alexi and Todd fan. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.120 You know, we do dinner with them all the time 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.640 when we're in Miami, and so, you know, I don't 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.840 know I think it's interesting. You know, you never know 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.599 what the conversations are that you're not privy to, you know, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:13:59.800 what I'm saying, and so you kind of have to 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.120 wait to watch the episodes to see how everything is 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.520 playing out. And so I guess we'll see, you know. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.920 I think the first two episodes they kind of address it, and. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.240 Yeah, you know they I also feel I also feel 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.200 like Todd has a right to change his mind. Maybe 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:12.840 he just didn't want to be around all those people. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.559 I go through things like that sometimes where I wake 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.040 up and I'm like, by the way, I don't want 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:17.800 to go to that party. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.360 Yeah, and you know, look, it's not easy always being 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.600 miked up and having the cameras on you, and you know, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.240 you got to be on your A game, and so 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.720 sometimes you know, people are human and so sometimes you know, 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.040 they might want to take a step back or you know, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:33.240 chill out, sit one out. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.240 You know, yeah, totally, which is I think what he 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:35.680 was doing. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.400 So, you know, Marisol, when we were and a Bravo, 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.360 Khan said, you know, I really didn't mean everything that 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:42.800 I said when I said, you guys are you know 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.720 when I was making all those faces because you guys 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.680 are always all over each other. Yeah, I was joking. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.920 I didn't mean it, and I was like, oh, it's fine. Like, 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.320 you know, I feel like a lot of people in 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.400 relationships should be more loving, but I also think it's contagious. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.640 So if you hang out with a couple that's loving 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.360 and gives each other attention, I feel like you're more 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.840 apt to do that too. But if you hang out 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.160 with people that don't really like each other, that can 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:09.160 be contagious too. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.480 I think, you know, misery loves company, and people hate 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.120 the fact that we are so happy together. And I 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.080 guess where we come from, our histories, you know, backgrounds, whatever, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.240 and so you know, to hear Kiki talking shit, and I. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.240 Think, first of all, Keiki is dying for a boyfriend, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.440 so why is she talking about our relationship exactly? 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.680 And I think Lisa had some comments to you know, look, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.880 I mean it was at that point, very early in 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.600 our relationship also, and so we had never really been 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.280 a part for longer than a week or anything like that. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.600 And so you know, like I appreciate it. You know, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.240 it's I appreciate anytime you want to throw me a party, 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.120 feel free, you know, my birthday is coming up too. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.120 You know what's interesting, I feel like a lot of people, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.920 you know, we do podcasts, and when people talk about us, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.440