Speaker 1: And we're back with another episode of Separation and Anxiety.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Marcus.
Speaker 2: Jordan and I'm Larsa Pippen.
Speaker 1: And it's been a little minute since we've done an episode, right,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's definitely been a minute, and we
Speaker 2: have so much to talk about it. I feel like
Speaker 2: it's time to start. We need to start talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we've been living life.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of drama, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of content going on, and so I think it's a
Speaker 1: great time to kind of reignite the podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, I kind of feel like when you know, when
Speaker 2: we're filming Housewives, it's a lot like yes, summer in Miami,
Speaker 2: filming Housewives is like hot, We're filming all the time,
Speaker 2: you know, we're bickerings. It's kind of stressful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously you finished filming Housewives. You took
Speaker 1: like two weeks off, and then we went to Scotland
Speaker 1: to film The Traders, and so it's definitely been a busy,
Speaker 1: busy you know, past few weeks.
Speaker 3: We obviously had Bravo.
Speaker 1: Khan, the new season of Real Housewives of Mine Yammi
Speaker 1: is on, So it's definitely it's been crazy.
Speaker 3: It's hectic right now.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. Would you do
Speaker 2: The Traders again? If you were asked to be on
Speaker 2: it again, I definitely.
Speaker 3: Would do it again.
Speaker 1: It was it was a unique experience, you know. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize how serious they take the competition there in
Speaker 1: terms of like, you know, being secluded away from one
Speaker 1: another and not being able to talk about the game
Speaker 1: all the time. No phones, no phones, no controllers in
Speaker 1: the rooms.
Speaker 3: No, it was just a lot.
Speaker 1: It was like we didn't even have our key cards
Speaker 1: to our room, you know, we had to be escorted
Speaker 1: to and from and I think the hardest part for
Speaker 1: me is not being able to stay with you.
Speaker 2: You know, we couldn't stay in the same room, which
Speaker 2: is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I do feel like being on The Traders, Like if
Speaker 2: I had to compare The Traders to Housewives, it's so
Speaker 2: different because I feel like the physical aspect of it
Speaker 2: is hard. It's like challenging, Like we had a couple
Speaker 2: of those things I thought I was going to die on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, but I think that was my favorite part, just
Speaker 1: because like the missions, you know, it just you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up watching MTV's the Challenge and like Survivor
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and so to be thrown into
Speaker 1: that type of universe, I think it was fun. And plus,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have your phones, there's no outside distractions,
Speaker 1: and so I felt like every day we were looking
Speaker 1: forward to the suspense of like what's today's mission is
Speaker 1: going to be, and like, I we survive.
Speaker 2: You know, literally, I was stressed out every morning. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, am I going to be murdered? Am I? Like?
Speaker 2: Just so many different things, and then, like you said,
Speaker 2: the missions were really challenging. Yeah, she was very physical,
Speaker 2: and I thought I was in great sheep until I
Speaker 2: got there, and then I realized I can be in
Speaker 2: better shape.
Speaker 1: Now you're definitely in great shape. I mean I look
Speaker 1: at you every day. So which one do you think
Speaker 1: is harder to do? Is it Housewives in Miami or
Speaker 1: The Traders?
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like the Traders because it's more
Speaker 2: stressful every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're being thrown into a castle with a
Speaker 2: bunch of people you don't know, and it's hard to
Speaker 2: like gauge people and who you're gonna like.
Speaker 3: No, it's definitely a unique game.
Speaker 2: So but I love it. I would do it again
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: I definitely would do it again. I feel like it was.
Speaker 2: Uh and honestly, the producers were amazing. The cast that
Speaker 2: they chose was so much fun. I ended up we
Speaker 2: ended up liking everyone.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a great cast and so I'm
Speaker 1: excited for it to, you know, air next year. But
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to We'll have to wait for
Speaker 1: that right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about Bravo Con.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it. You know.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm still sick from Bravokan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you definitely were a little under the
Speaker 1: weather all weekend, but you pushed through.
Speaker 3: I mean you had a busy schedule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot going on. But it's amazing
Speaker 2: to see how much Bravo has really grown. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: like it way better in Las Vegas than New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like it becomes like a true
Speaker 1: destination thing. It's like, you go to Vegas for Bravocan.
Speaker 1: When it's in New York, I feel like there's so
Speaker 1: many other things happening in the city that's it kind
Speaker 1: of gets lost in the sauce a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they did a great job in Vegas. The production
Speaker 1: was through the through the roof. I mean, Andy's always,
Speaker 1: you know, a top notch dude. Shout out to Andy now,
Speaker 1: he's the best.
Speaker 2: We had so much fun. I feel like getting you know,
Speaker 2: getting a chance to see all the other you know,
Speaker 2: franchises and just where half these people have come from me,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Now it was over one hundred and fifty voelebrities from
Speaker 1: all different types of shows, and you know, there was
Speaker 1: a little bit of drama.
Speaker 2: I feel like it and the beef is real on
Speaker 2: these shows, you guys, like it's definitely real, and I
Speaker 2: felt like I was kind of witnessing it. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: when we're hanging out with like Terreesa Judais and then
Speaker 2: like I'm scared to post her because I feel like,
Speaker 2: am I going to offend Melissa. It's like a weird situation.
Speaker 2: But I almost feel like it's like other people's beef
Speaker 2: and we shouldn't get involved. Yeah, and then I feel
Speaker 2: like Caroline Stanbury, she's one of my best friends. She
Speaker 2: has beef with a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that was something that I, you know,
Speaker 1: didn't really know going into Bravo Khan, but leaving, I realized, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know she's allegedly she's a shit starter, is what
Speaker 1: people say.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I love her so much, she's so
Speaker 2: not But I do feel like when I was meeting
Speaker 2: I met a couple of girls on her show, and
Speaker 2: they're like, Oh, we wanted to say hi to you
Speaker 2: last year at Bravo Con, but you know we were
Speaker 2: scared because we knew how close you are to Caroline.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, so then I can't be nice
Speaker 2: to you. And I literally said that to him, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm very loyal to my girlfriend, so by the way,
Speaker 2: I can't really be friends with you now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's easier for the guys, for sure,
Speaker 1: just because you know, for us, we don't get as
Speaker 1: tangled as much in the drama.
Speaker 3: So you know, I was hanging out with Louis, who's
Speaker 3: Teresa's husband.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was hanging out with Joe, who's Melissa's husband,
Speaker 1: hanging out with Sergio, who's Caroline's man, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's easier for the guys to
Speaker 1: kind of navigate because it's less Caddy.
Speaker 2: I guess, no, for sure, But what about Jennifer Aiden
Speaker 2: and Danielle. I felt like, I'm so close to Jennifer
Speaker 2: that I don't know Danielle, and so I'm going to
Speaker 2: leave that one alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's different.
Speaker 2: Their situation got physical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild, you know, and it happens.
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like if it's hard to
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to make your own opinion
Speaker 1: about people. You know, as you interact with them, you
Speaker 1: can kind of make your decision on you know, who's right,
Speaker 1: who's wrong. But if you don't interact with that person,
Speaker 1: then it's kind of like just let it be. Just
Speaker 1: let it be, stay out of the way, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we're two episodes into The Real Housewives in Miami, Okay,
Speaker 2: and how do you feel seeing yourself on TV?
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like it's easy. You know, Look,
Speaker 3: I played basketball my whole life.
Speaker 1: I've obviously been someone in the limelight my whole life,
Speaker 1: and so you know, filming I felt was natural for me.
Speaker 1: And so but the thing, the tricky thing about watching
Speaker 1: it is that you are at the mercy of the editors,
Speaker 1: you know a little bit. And so that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that I was a little nervous about is am
Speaker 1: I gonna look right on TV and I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm doing doing fun killing you.
Speaker 2: No, you're great. But I did see a few of
Speaker 2: the girls rolling their eyes like mirrorsol when we or
Speaker 2: when we were kind of like all over each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think we're gonna get to that
Speaker 1: in a little bit. But uh, I just think, you know, look,
Speaker 1: misery loves company, and I think we love each other
Speaker 1: so much that sometimes it either helps other couples or
Speaker 1: it could be a distraction for other couples or put
Speaker 1: their relationship on notice, because you know, if you're not
Speaker 1: happy in the confines of your relationship and you get
Speaker 1: around us with so lovey dovey and touchy and stuff,
Speaker 1: it's it's sometimes like why don't I have that? Or
Speaker 1: I would like to go have that? And so I
Speaker 1: think we've seen it a lot in our personal lives,
Speaker 1: and so Bravo was like an extension.
Speaker 2: Of that, you know, no, totally. Even Sergio Sergio was
Speaker 2: like Caroline's husband. He was like, I want Caroline to
Speaker 2: be grabbing me the way you grab market, right, And
Speaker 2: I was like, We're just used to being all over
Speaker 2: each other at all the time.
Speaker 1: I think people have different love languages, you know, and
Speaker 1: one of our love languages is touch and you know,
Speaker 1: being all over each other and hints the title of
Speaker 1: our podcast, Separation Anxiety. You know, we always want to
Speaker 1: be together, I know. But talking about going back to
Speaker 1: brabo com for a second, were there any other provelebrities
Speaker 1: that you bumped into that maybe you didn't get along
Speaker 1: with or you were surprised that they were so friendly?
Speaker 2: No, I feel like everyone has always been pretty friendly
Speaker 2: to us. Yeah, I think so, I do. I mean,
Speaker 2: we did run into Gerty, and I've just been avoiding her.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it's a situation that's so delicate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the word delicate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you know, her health is the main priority,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm happy to hear that she's cancer
Speaker 1: free now, at least that's what she said at Bravo Com.
Speaker 1: But you know, as the show plays out, you know,
Speaker 1: you have a little bit of a of a spat
Speaker 1: and so, uh, you know, what's what's your takes on
Speaker 1: how it's gone so far?
Speaker 2: You know, what me not knowing? You know, the first
Speaker 2: two episodes, I didn't know that she had cancer and
Speaker 2: she was crying and she was saying, I'm gonna call
Speaker 2: for you. But we're not close like that, so I
Speaker 2: don't know what she's saying.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think when you have a real friendship and a
Speaker 2: real bond, you don't have to say the words and
Speaker 2: I'll understand what you're saying. But her and I have
Speaker 2: never really been close, so it's kind of hard to
Speaker 2: gauge where she's coming from and you know what's going
Speaker 2: on because one minute she's yelling at me and then
Speaker 2: she's saying, I'm going to call for you. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: so for me, I just I'm just confused. And I
Speaker 2: don't want to come off like as being a bitch,
Speaker 2: because it's not what I am. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just don't know what's going on. I'm
Speaker 2: so lost, like genuinely, like I'm completely lost, and so
Speaker 2: I'm you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think over the next few episodes, or
Speaker 1: at least the course of the season, you know, you'll
Speaker 1: see the story play out. And honestly, I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to the reunion just because you know, at the nally
Speaker 1: and they tease it in the trailer, you know, Russell
Speaker 1: got a little vocal with you also, and so I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking forward to having that conversation with Russell,
Speaker 1: like y'all keep that same energy, because when I'm around
Speaker 1: he's pretty quiet.
Speaker 2: You know, well why is he talking to me? Why
Speaker 2: does to stop?
Speaker 1: And that's my main thing is like, look, as a
Speaker 1: man on the housewife franchise, stay out of the women's business,
Speaker 1: stay out of the women's drama. Let the ladies handle
Speaker 1: their thing, you know what I'm saying, don't get in
Speaker 1: the middle of it. And so, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see as the as the season progresses.
Speaker 1: But yeah, how about you, know, like you said, two
Speaker 1: episodes of aired, are you do you feel like family
Speaker 1: and friends are reaching out to you? I know my
Speaker 1: mom has you know, We've been sending my mom the
Speaker 1: episodes a little early, just trying to keep her in
Speaker 1: the loop. She's a huge Andy Cohen fan, and so
Speaker 1: you know, she's reached out. She's excited about it, at
Speaker 1: least so far.
Speaker 2: But what about you, I mean, I feel like it's good.
Speaker 2: It's just I feel like my my situation this season
Speaker 2: is going to be challenging because it's like I'm arguing
Speaker 2: with someone that you know is sick, and how do
Speaker 2: you art like I? And I'm the funny thing is
Speaker 2: I'm not even arguing.
Speaker 3: With her, well, I think, And that's the thing is like, as.
Speaker 2: It progresses, I'm the beneficiary of the like you know,
Speaker 2: I'm the punching bag. So it's like hard for me to.
Speaker 1: Like, I think your personalities are very different, very different,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think the way you guys communicate
Speaker 1: is very different. And so I just think that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of misconceptions. I know that you come from
Speaker 1: a good place, your intentions are always you know well,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I don't want to give too much
Speaker 1: away without you.
Speaker 2: Know, lives there. But I also feel like before Alexias party,
Speaker 2: her New Horizon party, I had called and texted Gertie
Speaker 2: when she said that I was being fake, And so
Speaker 2: when I saw her, what other choice do I have
Speaker 2: besides address it, like, Hey, why did you say I
Speaker 2: was fake? It's not like I wanted to like ask
Speaker 2: that Alexias party, but I just wanted clarity. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I called, I texted you. Why would you say that
Speaker 2: about me when I've always been there to support you?
Speaker 2: I've been her biggest fan, and so for me, I
Speaker 2: just don't like, you know, not having ann standing of
Speaker 2: where we are in our relationship. I feel like clarity
Speaker 2: is really important any relationship, and so it you know,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know what was going on.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I love about
Speaker 1: you the most is that you like to tackle shit
Speaker 1: right away, you know, and so if somebody says something,
Speaker 1: or if there's a task for you to do, you know,
Speaker 1: you like to address it in as soon as you can.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's a little bit of what
Speaker 1: happened in that episode is that was the first time
Speaker 1: you'd seen Gerty since that comment, and you wanted to
Speaker 1: address it. And so obviously she's had she's got other
Speaker 1: things on her mind dealing with her diagnosis. But you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't know that. So your thought process is let me,
Speaker 1: you know, let me clear the air. You don't like
Speaker 1: murky water, which you've said repeatedly, and you know that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it all fell out.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. What did you
Speaker 2: think about the whole thing with Alexis party. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: so I asked Gerty the question, Yeah, but with Todd
Speaker 2: not being there. Was it weird for you going to
Speaker 2: Todd's apartment and him not being there, or were you fine?
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't realize that Todd wasn't there until,
Speaker 1: you know, half way through the party, and so I
Speaker 1: definitely think it was a little bit weird.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I understand, you know, his concerns and his you know
Speaker 1: cause for pause or whatever.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just don't.
Speaker 1: As all the guys were there except for Todd, you know,
Speaker 1: and so I just feel like it was a little
Speaker 1: bit weird. But I also kind of understand, you know,
Speaker 1: where he's coming from. But I will say, you know,
Speaker 1: once you guys started turning up a little bit, and
Speaker 1: I think it was Julia and Marisol started going at
Speaker 1: it a little bit on the couch. That's kind of
Speaker 1: like my cue to like peace out, go grab some tequila,
Speaker 1: you know, let the ladies do their thing. I think
Speaker 1: Anthony was the first one to step out, and I
Speaker 1: jokingly said, look, I'm not far behind you, and I
Speaker 1: really wasn't. No.
Speaker 2: I know, sometimes you know, and our arguments are like
Speaker 2: we like to kind of get it off our chuest.
Speaker 2: You know, we spend a lot of time together and
Speaker 2: if we have issues, it's hard to like just throw
Speaker 2: them under the rug, you know, like sweep them under
Speaker 2: the work rug. We're not good like that. I feel
Speaker 2: like we're all outspoken with strong women, so it's like
Speaker 2: if we have issues with each other, I feel like
Speaker 2: we address them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, look, as a guy in that instance,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to always support your woman, right
Speaker 1: or wrong, you.
Speaker 2: Know, but I'm always right though, right, You're always right.
Speaker 1: But I just think, you know, it's as much as
Speaker 1: you can let the women handle their business, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, don't get in the middle of it
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. So a lot of people were questioning, you know, Alexia, like,
Speaker 2: so did Todd not show up because of Adriana or
Speaker 2: was Alexia hiding something?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, look, I think that's kind of the hidden
Speaker 1: storyline right now, is that there's trouble in Paradise or
Speaker 1: there's financial issues whatever. You know, from what I've seen,
Speaker 1: I think that they're doing fine.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a big Alexi and Todd fan.
Speaker 1: You know, we do dinner with them all the time
Speaker 1: when we're in Miami, and so, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know I think it's interesting. You know, you never know
Speaker 1: what the conversations are that you're not privy to, you know,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and so you kind of have to
Speaker 1: wait to watch the episodes to see how everything is
Speaker 1: playing out. And so I guess we'll see, you know.
Speaker 1: I think the first two episodes they kind of address it, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they I also feel I also feel
Speaker 2: like Todd has a right to change his mind. Maybe
Speaker 2: he just didn't want to be around all those people.
Speaker 2: I go through things like that sometimes where I wake
Speaker 2: up and I'm like, by the way, I don't want
Speaker 2: to go to that party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, look, it's not easy always being
Speaker 1: miked up and having the cameras on you, and you know,
Speaker 1: you got to be on your A game, and so
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, people are human and so sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: they might want to take a step back or you know,
Speaker 1: chill out, sit one out.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, totally, which is I think what he
Speaker 3: was doing.
Speaker 2: So, you know, Marisol, when we were and a Bravo,
Speaker 2: Khan said, you know, I really didn't mean everything that
Speaker 2: I said when I said, you guys are you know
Speaker 2: when I was making all those faces because you guys
Speaker 2: are always all over each other. Yeah, I was joking.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean it, and I was like, oh, it's fine. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like a lot of people in
Speaker 2: relationships should be more loving, but I also think it's contagious.
Speaker 2: So if you hang out with a couple that's loving
Speaker 2: and gives each other attention, I feel like you're more
Speaker 2: apt to do that too. But if you hang out
Speaker 2: with people that don't really like each other, that can
Speaker 2: be contagious too.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, misery loves company, and people hate
Speaker 1: the fact that we are so happy together. And I
Speaker 1: guess where we come from, our histories, you know, backgrounds, whatever,
Speaker 1: and so you know, to hear Kiki talking shit, and I.
Speaker 2: Think, first of all, Keiki is dying for a boyfriend,
Speaker 2: so why is she talking about our relationship exactly?
Speaker 1: And I think Lisa had some comments to you know, look,
Speaker 1: I mean it was at that point, very early in
Speaker 1: our relationship also, and so we had never really been
Speaker 1: a part for longer than a week or anything like that.
Speaker 1: And so you know, like I appreciate it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's I appreciate anytime you want to throw me a party,
Speaker 1: feel free, you know, my birthday is coming up too.
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, I feel like a lot of people,
Speaker 2: you know, we do podcasts, and when people talk about us,
Speaker 2: I feel like they still don't know who we are.
Speaker 2: And you know, we did a podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a week ago, we did Pablo Torre's podcasts and
Speaker 1: you talk a lot of shit, a lot of shit,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, I wasn't too familiar with
Speaker 1: the format of his show. Maybe that's on us not
Speaker 1: doing our research or whatever, but uh, yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like the first half segment of the show was talking
Speaker 1: crazy and so you know, it's just funny because then
Speaker 1: when we did our interview, they didn't really keep that
Speaker 1: same energy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, obviously they were they had
Speaker 1: listened to the podcast, they were familiar with.
Speaker 3: It, but they our interview was very fluffy.
Speaker 2: It was very one.
Speaker 1: It was very fluffy, and I feel like their commentary
Speaker 1: that aired before our interview was, you know.
Speaker 3: It was pretty biased.
Speaker 2: It was a hit piece.
Speaker 3: It was a little bit of a hit piece.
Speaker 1: And now I actually having watched it back, I wish
Speaker 1: that that producer, you know, there was some off I
Speaker 1: can't remember the dude's name. I just wish he was there,
Speaker 1: because I feel like our interview would have taken a
Speaker 1: different tone and we would have been able to clap
Speaker 1: back a little bit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what the problem is. I think we're
Speaker 2: too nice because we really don't talk about people, and
Speaker 2: I think we do come from a place of like
Speaker 2: we just want to be together, I think. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I feel like, why are all these
Speaker 2: people hating on us? They are miserable?
Speaker 1: That has to be what it is, because I feel
Speaker 1: like we're good at clapping back. We will respond to negativity,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's like we don't start shit,
Speaker 1: we finish it, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 1: I just wish that we had an opportunity. Actually, we
Speaker 1: should try to invite them onto our podcast. That's what
Speaker 1: we should do. Oh my gosh, But I don't really know.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I feel like the people that have
Speaker 2: so much to say are so miserable in their real lives.
Speaker 2: If we took five seconds to research that much, I
Speaker 2: would never even do because they're not worth our time.
Speaker 2: You'd really realize these people are a bunch of losers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like they really are losers.
Speaker 1: So it's all good. I think, you know, you take
Speaker 1: the good with the bad. And I still feel like
Speaker 1: we came out on top of that.
Speaker 2: No, totally. I just feel like when people like, it's
Speaker 2: that other guy too, what's his name that vlat TV
Speaker 2: or whatever?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean that's another dude.
Speaker 2: I mean it's funny to me how many times he
Speaker 2: says my like.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, that's my thing is like him Cameron.
Speaker 1: Like these guys that love to bring like that, they
Speaker 1: love to bring you up, you know, just to take clear.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: What's amazing to me when they think that there's so
Speaker 2: much beef with me in my ex by the way,
Speaker 2: there's not. Yeah, by the way, Like it's not like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like what I don't like is guys
Speaker 1: talking negatively about women and you know, publicly. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the tone that Vlad takes all the time, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, Cameron and makes with their little podcast or
Speaker 1: whatever it is.
Speaker 3: They always got.
Speaker 1: Something slick to say, and I just think it's funny,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, don't throw stones when you
Speaker 1: live in a glass houses.
Speaker 2: What I should say, well, not just that, but I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, when you know you're really mature,
Speaker 2: when you want to see your ex happy. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I feel like I've always been in that place, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I want to see everyone happy
Speaker 2: for sure, and so I feel like some of these
Speaker 2: people apparently are not that happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just think it's hard for people to get over
Speaker 1: the fact of our past and our background, like where
Speaker 1: we come from, you know. And and you know, I
Speaker 1: just think that people can't put themselves in our shoes,
Speaker 1: so they want to talk shit.
Speaker 3: And I also feel like.
Speaker 2: They got they can never fit the shoe, by the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they also have weak shows that are looking
Speaker 1: to get ratings also, so you know you're hot, you're hot.
Speaker 3: If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping baby,
Speaker 3: So I guess not. That's kind of how that goes.
Speaker 1: How do you feel like shooting this season of the
Speaker 1: Housewives has changed our relationship in any way?
Speaker 2: I think shooting Housewives and doing the Traders has definitely
Speaker 2: made us closer. Yeah, just because we've been spending so
Speaker 2: much more time together, Like we used to spend twenty
Speaker 2: three and a half hours a day together and now
Speaker 2: we're spending twenty four hours a day together. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's definitely made us closer working with each other.
Speaker 1: I feel like, Yeah, I feel like it just gives
Speaker 1: us an opportunity to kind of dive deeper into our
Speaker 1: relationship a little bit. And you know, honestly, people always
Speaker 1: say that putting your relationship in the spotlight, you know,
Speaker 1: could be the downfall of it, or you know, filming
Speaker 1: on reality TV might break people.
Speaker 3: Up or something like that.
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's actually made us a lot
Speaker 1: closer just because you know, we were always were constantly
Speaker 1: talking about, Okay.
Speaker 3: This is what we've got to do today, this is
Speaker 3: what you've got.
Speaker 1: You support me, I support you, you know, And so
Speaker 1: I just think that different strokes for different folks, you.
Speaker 2: Know, for sure. But I will say that if you
Speaker 2: have issues off, you know, if you have issues in
Speaker 2: your real life, the camera will catch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think, you know what, let it be
Speaker 2: what it's going to be. I feel like, if you,
Speaker 2: you know, put yourself out there and you're in a
Speaker 2: good place, great, And I'm sure I've seen so many
Speaker 2: people go through multiple divorces on reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, look, the longer that you are on
Speaker 1: you know, a reality show, the more that your life,
Speaker 1: your real life, will come out, you know, and so
Speaker 1: you know the good, the bad, and ugly. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you know, people that have been
Speaker 1: on reality TV for twelve thirteen years have been through divorce, marriage,
Speaker 1: divorced again, married again, and so I just think, you know,
Speaker 1: it just it just depends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's life. You know, when you're living,
Speaker 2: you're going to go and you're going to experience things,
Speaker 2: and you're going to go through things, and that's kind
Speaker 2: of what, you know, what happens in real life, and
Speaker 2: the cameras are to catch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so do you think that there was any
Speaker 3: friction between us when we filmed on the show? No?
Speaker 2: Why would I would address it on camera. I wouldn't care.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it. I feel that.
Speaker 2: No, I feel like we had a great time shooting Housewives.
Speaker 2: It was super fun for sure, for sure, and it's
Speaker 2: kind of fun for me also because I feel like
Speaker 2: it's like I'm in a new place in my life
Speaker 2: and I couldn't really date anyone and put them on
Speaker 2: the show. Before you, just because I wasn't solid like
Speaker 2: that with anyone. And I hate when I see like
Speaker 2: girls on these shows bring guys on that they know
Speaker 2: that they don't really have a connection with or relationship with,
Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, I'm going to bring this model
Speaker 2: into film. You know, I've gone on one date with him,
Speaker 2: but I feel like it's not genuine and it's not real,
Speaker 2: And for me, I would never want to do that.
Speaker 2: I would never want to put, you know, myself out
Speaker 2: like that was someone that I'm not comfortable with and
Speaker 2: that I'm not like in a great place with.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I definitely feel like there were times where we
Speaker 1: were filming Housewives where they wanted us to shoot with
Speaker 1: other people and I'm like, look, if it's not a
Speaker 1: real relationship or if it's not authentic, then like keep
Speaker 1: us out of it, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: we're not here to validate somebody else's you know, fake
Speaker 1: storyline or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, they you know, when
Speaker 2: Kiki goes on dates sometimes she's like, Hey, I want
Speaker 2: you guys to come, can we film it? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't think my boyfriend wants to sit through, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to sit through first date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I can't say.
Speaker 1: It's one thing if it's a first date, it's another
Speaker 1: thing if it's like somebody that you've been spending time
Speaker 1: with over a period of time, you know, And so
Speaker 1: you know, I just think that, you know, as long
Speaker 1: as I can steer, you know, clear, I'm here. I'm
Speaker 1: there to support you. I'm not necessarily there to meet
Speaker 1: anybody else or make friends. You know, I hear you,
Speaker 1: what is your take on anybody else? I'm like, Bravo
Speaker 1: kind with Lisa. I know, you guys did the right
Speaker 1: carpet a little bit together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Lisa is in a better place.
Speaker 3: She's definitely in a good spot. Shout out Jody.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like she's talking a little bit too.
Speaker 2: I feel like she's talking, you know less.
Speaker 3: About her situation, her ex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, should even say his name?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, you know, I think it was
Speaker 1: an overall good past two weeks, you know, with Bravo
Speaker 1: Khan the first two episodes next Wednesday. I think that's
Speaker 1: the other thing too. People don't realize that is that
Speaker 1: your show is back on Bravo. Yeah, on Wednesdays, you know,
Speaker 1: and so Wednesday night o'clock, make sure people tune in
Speaker 1: Wednesday nine o'clock on Bravo and then it reruns on
Speaker 1: Peacock on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Yep. I feel like a lot of people don't know
Speaker 2: that because it comes on right after Her House a
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we've had a great couple of
Speaker 2: weeks for the last couple of weeks, and I feel
Speaker 2: like we need to, you know, ramp things up.
Speaker 3: I think we're back, you know.
Speaker 1: I think now our schedules are a little you know,
Speaker 1: slowing down a little bit. We're going into the holidays,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's time to pick this
Speaker 1: energy back up on the podcast.
Speaker 2: I love that for us. I love that for us
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely been fun catching up. We've definitely been
Speaker 1: feeling some separation and anxiety since.
Speaker 3: Our last episode.
Speaker 1: You know, we missed you guys, missed you guys a lot,
Speaker 1: and so make sure to follow us on Instagram at
Speaker 1: Separation Underscore Anxiety Underscore Podcast and catch you next up.
Speaker 2: Guys, Love you, Peace,