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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, thanks for tuning in to six Degrees with

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon. My guest today. Rachel Brosnahan, fabulous, fabulous actor.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have been such a fan of hers

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Speaker 1: from the first time that I saw her. I think

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Speaker 1: she just has really phenomenal chops. And while we were

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Speaker 1: unable to speak specifically about projects, given that we were

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the strike, we were able to

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Speaker 1: talk about process and about some of the things also

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Speaker 1: that she just cares very very deeply about. She's a

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Speaker 1: great person, incredible talent. I think you're going to enjoy

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Speaker 1: our conversation, so Lena in, I'm glad you're Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being here with me today. Rachel Brosnahan,

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Speaker 1: the fabulous Rachel Brosnahan, who, as you know, and I've

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Speaker 1: told you, I'm just a giant fan of yours and

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Speaker 1: of your beautiful, beautiful work on so many things, many

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Speaker 1: of which, since we're still knee deep in our Screen

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Speaker 1: Actors Guild strike, we're not actually allowed to address directly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, have you done any interviews like this

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Speaker 1: where you try to avoid, like what you do with

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Speaker 1: your entire life while you're doing.

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Speaker 2: The interview I haven't, and so I've admittedly have been

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Speaker 2: slightly nervous because I've been sort of in a quiet

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Speaker 2: hole focused on the producing side of things over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of months. And so this is my first

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Speaker 2: rodeo trying not to talk about all the things we're

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Speaker 2: not supposed to talk about.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I have found a really interesting because,

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Speaker 1: as you know, and I think, actually, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about this. During this strike, it has hit

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Speaker 1: me that such a big part of what I do

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Speaker 1: is the promotional piece of it. Yeah, and it's the

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Speaker 1: part that I never really wanted from the jump street.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's I don't you know people say to

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Speaker 1: you when you become an actor and you go to

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Speaker 1: a photo session or you go to do an interview,

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Speaker 1: and they go, well, you know, kid, that's just part

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Speaker 1: the I mean, is it really? Does it have to be?

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Speaker 1: I do a lot of promoting of the of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that I'm in. I'm a very good boy, you know,

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Speaker 1: I show up and I don't turn things down, and

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Speaker 1: you know, people count on that. But when they started

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Speaker 1: to include a certain amount of promotion in the agreement

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Speaker 1: I just kind of felt like I started pushing back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've struggled with this a lot because I became

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Speaker 2: blah blah all that, you know, all that actor stuff

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Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with this side of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm a part of an interesting generation. And then I

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Speaker 2: the characters I'm playing, over seeing the funny story that

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Speaker 1: Told that same story, by the way, on the late

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at the same time, I've also seen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I completely agree with you, and and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've often said that an interview is it

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Speaker 1: while not actually doing it. This is going to be

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Speaker 1: this is a very cynical start to this episode. So

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Speaker 1: that being said, tell me all about yourself and why

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Speaker 1: you became an actor. Where are you from? I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm from just north of Chicago. I'm from Highland Park, Illinois. Okay, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: where are you from? I don't think I know?

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Speaker 1: This is Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Do you make it back often.

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Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do. I have family still there.

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Speaker 1: I got let's say, two sisters, my brother's got a

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Speaker 1: moved to New York when I was pretty pretty young.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But Hiland Parker is awesome. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it was a great place to grow up.

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Speaker 2: I feel like i've this is again one of those

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Speaker 2: my famed role as Tree number three in my kindergartenersion

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure you're amazing. Okay, this is just classic.

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Speaker 1: This is just classic New York. And I'm going to

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Speaker 1: For those people who don't know, that's exactly what was happening.

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Speaker 2: No, No, not in my immediate family. My my dad

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Speaker 2: But they were sorely disappointed. I was like, Mom, Dad,

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Speaker 1: What sports did you play?

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Speaker 2: I snowboarded and I wrestled.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow? They were disappointed, though, I mean, what do

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Speaker 2: I think literally anything else? You know, they were I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they were disappointed. They were just they were.

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Speaker 2: don't know if she's got it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay, Wow, that's pretty harsh if they could

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Speaker 1: tell from your tree performance that you didn't have the

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Speaker 1: be a Were you a high school wrestler?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was briefly. I did two years, and then

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Speaker 2: the wrestling season. I don't know about how this was

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Speaker 2: I joined the wrestling team, and then my sophomore year

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Speaker 2: a half other hats, producer, actor, wearer of beautiful clothes,

439
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Speaker 2: and Jeremy became a huge champion for this and helped

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Speaker 2: bring together a lot of other people who helped make

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Speaker 2: it possible for us to keep going. And honestly, what

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Speaker 2: an incredible gift to get to do something that you

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Speaker 2: think is over. We didn't know we were transferring by

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Speaker 2: the time the show closed. I often have this experience,

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Speaker 2: whether it's in theater or in a film or on television,

446
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Speaker 2: where you finish it and then suddenly you're like, HU,

447
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Speaker 2: should I get it now? I understand that I didn't

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Speaker 2: understand for all that time, And so we got to

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Speaker 2: have that experience and then come back and get back

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Speaker 2: into the rehearsal room for two days. But you know,

451
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Speaker 2: even two days of getting to crack this thing back

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Speaker 2: open with such a huge gift, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: the show transformed in those three weeks that we had

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Speaker 2: off and then became stronger and more cohesive and a

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Speaker 2: little bit shorter. When that's really cool we brought it

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Speaker 2: to Broadway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if you've ever been in an

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Speaker 1: experience where you've had to go back and do a reshoot,

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Speaker 1: either for a technical reason or for the you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, the one they want to change the

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Speaker 1: ending of a a movie or a pilot or you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. And I'm always like, oh shit, God,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I already did it,

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Speaker 1: and I want to do it again. I already did it.

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Speaker 1: And then inevitably you go, oh yeah, there was that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can you know it. It's it's I've

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Speaker 1: never had to do that and had it be like worse,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not. And it's a little scary when

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Speaker 1: you think about it, because then you think to yourself, well, really,

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Speaker 1: what I should do is go back and reshoot the

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Speaker 1: entire movie, you know, and you just could, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: do one, finish that one and then just I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are people that do that. Who does reshoots like that?

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Speaker 1: I think maybe I don't know. I'm sure they've heard

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Speaker 1: about direct Woody Allen or so something like that does

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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of times, does things I forget it was somebody was

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Speaker 2: saying to me, And I wish I could have ever

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Speaker 2: a really well known director who used to shoot the

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Speaker 2: beginning of a movie and then reshoot the first three

481
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Speaker 2: days because you're trying to find your footing in those

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Speaker 2: first couple of days. And yeah, you always felt like

483
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Speaker 2: it was better the second time, rut. Yeah, but crippling

484
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Speaker 2: insecurity or whatever it may be. I think I'm never

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Speaker 2: going to complain about another shot and getting to take

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Speaker 2: another swing at something. Yeah, and I agree, I feel

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Speaker 2: like it's rarely ever been worse the second time.

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Speaker 1: I often like to say that I discover, I discover

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Speaker 1: the essence of my big scene in a film in

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Speaker 1: the van on the way home. That's where Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was it.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you said you can't sing, and that's

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Speaker 1: not true, because I just saw you sing about a

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago or so. I saw you in a

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Speaker 1: read like when yeah, I know, uh, Kira, my wife

497
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Speaker 1: was in a reading that I saw of a new

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Speaker 1: play with Rachel. And I bring this up because I'm

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Speaker 1: so often and it's and I was, and I was

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Speaker 1: really especially knocked out that day by you and her

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Speaker 1: and everybody else in this cast. It's not it wasn't

502
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Speaker 1: really a musical per se, but it was a play,

503
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Speaker 1: very heavy play where people the family has a tradition

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Speaker 1: of kind of performing folk songs together. So here's this

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Speaker 1: group of actors that are brought together having never done

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Speaker 1: this play as far as I know, and there is

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Speaker 1: one rehearsal and everybody sits there lined up with the

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Speaker 1: script in their laps, and you know, tries to deliver

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Speaker 1: a theatrical experience. By the way I might mention that

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Speaker 1: the rehearsal is that day, I don't even know if

511
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Speaker 1: you could call it a rehearsal. And there was a

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Speaker 1: musical director who had a piano there, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm watching this thing. The performances are magnetic,

514
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Speaker 1: just timing amazing and harmony and people just singing their

515
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Speaker 1: asses off. I you know it just actors sometimes just

516
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Speaker 1: below my mind when when they when they have the

517
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Speaker 1: ability to do that, and we talk about doing theater right,

518
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Speaker 1: and you you do theater and you rehearse for four

519
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Speaker 1: weeks or whatever it ends up being, uh, and then

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Speaker 1: you have like two months of previews and you know,

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Speaker 1: you still don't really feel that you're getting to it yet,

522
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Speaker 1: and then you see something like this where people just

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Speaker 1: come in and just do it. It's it's just it

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Speaker 1: just blows my mind and you were magnificent.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. But they say, I mean, they say you

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Speaker 2: spend the entire rehearsal process trying to get back to

527
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Speaker 2: that first reading, because in someways, right, the best part

528
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Speaker 2: of something like that is that there are no stakes,

529
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Speaker 2: There was no time to rehearse. There were some really

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Speaker 2: beautiful singers who are just stunn including Cure by the way,

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Speaker 2: she was amazing in this, who can pick up harmonies

532
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Speaker 2: at the drop of the hat. And then there's folks

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Speaker 2: like me who can you know, we're actors who can

534
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Speaker 2: carry a tune, who need a little bit of this

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Speaker 2: distance and probably a lot more time to get there.

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Speaker 2: But you have nothing to lose. You know, there's no

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Speaker 2: big audience, there's no reviews coming out. You just get

538
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Speaker 2: to come into a room in front of a group

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Speaker 2: of people who just love art and are there to

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Speaker 2: hear something out loud and see if there's anything there,

541
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Speaker 2: and you just get to throw down and then leave

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Speaker 2: and walk to the subway and go get a shake

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Speaker 2: shack or something and go on with the rest of

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Speaker 2: your afternoon. And it's those experiences that make theaters so special.

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Speaker 2: But you do you spend the next four weeks trying

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Speaker 2: to get the magic back of was that one afternoon

547
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Speaker 2: when nobody had anything to lose and we all just

548
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Speaker 2: chucked it into the universe together.

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Speaker 1: It was great. It's great. I just I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I love love seeing that. And while I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled that there's great, you know, plays like Sign

552
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Sydney Bristine's Window to get a revival, I'm also really

553
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: a big supporter of new theater and new voices and

554
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: new playwrights and anyway, I hope something happens happens with that.

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Speaker 1: So, Rachel, you're here today highlight Covenant House, which is

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Speaker 1: a nonprofit right that supports youth facing homelessness and survivors

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Speaker 1: of sex trafficking. I want to bring on Bill Beadrosian now,

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Speaker 1: who is the president and CEO of Covenant House International. Hey, Bill,

568
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Speaker 1: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hi Bill, So good to see you.

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Speaker 1: What we do here is, obviously we shoot the breeze

571
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Speaker 1: and about stuff, you know, acting, music, art, whatever it is,

572
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: sports and uh. And then we highlight causes that are

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Speaker 1: important to whoever our celebrity guest happens to be. And

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Speaker 1: in this case, Rachel is on the board of the

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Speaker 1: Covenant House correct and Bill uh runs it. So how

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Speaker 1: did how did you get involved? Rachel? And and and Bill?

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Speaker 1: How long have you been working there? Tell me tell

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Speaker 1: me how this all came together.

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Speaker 2: So I got involved actually through the theater community. About

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Speaker 2: a little bit over ten years ago, I was making

581
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Speaker 2: my Broadway debut in a show called The Big Knife.

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Speaker 2: And at the time to Peythia Jenkins and Stephanie J. Block,

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Speaker 2: who were two fantastic theater actors, had been involved with

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Speaker 2: Covenant House, who they lovingly referred to as our Broadway neighbors,

585
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Speaker 2: because the Covenant House is on forty first and tent

586
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Speaker 2: at least that original one was right on the corner.

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Speaker 2: And we did an event called a sleepout where a

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Speaker 2: group of Broadway Community members spent a night in the

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Speaker 2: courtyard in front of the Covenant House, sleeping in solidarity

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Speaker 2: with the young people overcoming homelessness who call Covenant House home.

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Speaker 2: And that night, to put it lightly, profoundly changed my life.

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Speaker 2: I was sitting across the table at twenty three years

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Speaker 2: old from a young man who was also twenty three

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Speaker 2: and was talking to me about his experience and how

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Speaker 2: he'd arrived at Covenant House in New York, and I

596
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Speaker 2: was just struck that through a very small shift in circumstances,

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Speaker 2: we could be so on other the opposite sides of

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Speaker 2: the table. And at the end of that night, Kevin Ryan,

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Speaker 2: who was then the president of Covenant House, asked us

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Speaker 2: to make a commitment to coming back, to staying involved,

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Speaker 2: to doing something to better the lives or be a

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Speaker 2: part of the lives of young people overcoming homelessness. And

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Speaker 2: so that began what's now an eleven year long relationship

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Speaker 2: with Covenant House, and I joined the board after being

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Speaker 2: invited by Kevin about five years ago. Sorry, pandemic time,

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Speaker 2: it's all.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a flat yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then Bill stepped in, and I've been so thrilled

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Speaker 2: to be a part of this board under Bill's leadership.

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Speaker 1: And so, Bill, how did you get involved?

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Speaker 3: So I've been involved with Covenant House for about ten years.

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Speaker 3: Covenant House is actually in thirty four cities across five countries,

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Speaker 3: and so I was actually leading the effort out in

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Speaker 3: California for many years before becoming the President CEO of

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Speaker 3: Comany House International, and really kind of got into this

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Speaker 3: work as a result of my family and my parents'

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Speaker 3: commitment to working with young people my entire life, and

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Speaker 3: so that's how I kind of found out through the

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Speaker 3: foster care system what was going on with many of

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Speaker 3: the young people and learned about how many young people

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Speaker 3: were becoming almost out of foster care and just want

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Speaker 3: to be part of the solution and kind of launched

624
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Speaker 3: been now a thirty plus year career and working with

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Speaker 3: foster youth and former foster youth.

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Speaker 1: And young people who are vulnerable tell us because I

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Speaker 1: think people would find this interesting your personal connection to

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Speaker 1: the foster system and your parents that you mentioned your parents, youn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I actually have connections to both the

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Speaker 3: communities you guys grow up And I was born and

631
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Speaker 3: raised in Philadelphia, and my parents said, Yeah, my parents

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Speaker 3: had me as teenagers, and so really kind of changed

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Speaker 3: the trajectory of their lives and kind of how they

634
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Speaker 3: viewed the world and how people perceive that. And so

635
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Speaker 3: from a very young age they started thinking about helping

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Speaker 3: other people who may have not experienced acceptance when they

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00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: had life experiences that were different from others. And so

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Speaker 3: even as a little kid, my mom and dad brought

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Speaker 3: in other pregnant teen girls into our home, and so

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Speaker 3: I got to kind of see just like what caring

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Speaker 3: about community was and that there were people out there

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Speaker 3: that maybe weren't it, even as fortunate as us, as

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Speaker 3: poor as we were in Philadelphia. And then when we

644
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Speaker 3: moved to the suburbs of Chicago when I was a teenager,

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Speaker 3: my parents started fostering, and over a twenty year period,

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Speaker 3: they ended up adopting eight of the many foster kids

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Speaker 3: we had in the home, and so there ended up

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Speaker 3: twelve of us total. Wow, with a range of about

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Speaker 3: thirty years in between.

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Speaker 1: Wow, your parents, that's amazing. Yeah, wait, so there were

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Speaker 1: how many of you?

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Speaker 3: Don't say that, you know, so there's twelve. Well no,

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Speaker 3: most of them could probably are young enough to be

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Speaker 3: my kids at some point, because I was a teenager

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Speaker 3: when they started, uh fostering in the Chicago area.

656
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Speaker 1: But yeah, all all my.

657
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: Siblings were a pretty close knit group. And so we've

658
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: dispersed around the country, most of us looking for warmth

659
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: after spending a few winters in Chicago, and but we

660
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: get together all the time. We go to games, big

661
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: Philadelphia sports fans. We travel to see Eagles games and

662
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: Phillies games and go words and just secondary all the

663
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: kids who were born in Chicago are big, big bear

664
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: stands and cum fans.

665
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: That's funny. That's like a commercial that I saw recently.

666
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, the people to the two sides of

667
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: the family sitting on the couch and in the competing jerseys.

668
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: Well that is boy talk about a personal talk about

669
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: a personal connection. But that being said, Bill, you know, uh,

670
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: you you also could be growing up in that world

671
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: and decide, Okay, well what do I want to do

672
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: with my life? I just want to go I want

673
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: to be a painter, or I want to or I

674
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: want to make a whole boatload of money, or you know,

675
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: I want to There's a lot of other things that

676
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: that you know, you're you're a lot of a path

677
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: that you could have taken. So I'm just curious what

678
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: it is that I'm always curious when somebody just decides

679
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: to devote their life to because it's not what I

680
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: do to to the to the idea of trying to

681
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: give back.

682
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: Well, you're right, I actually, you know, out of college,

683
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: I did want to make a boat load of money.

684
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: I actually studied finance and I studied for my serious

685
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: sevenths license to be a you know, a stockbrooker and

686
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: work on the Chicago Board of Trade. And I sort of,

687
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: you know, always felt kind of called to working with

688
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: young people and loved being around young people. And I

689
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: had kind of a come to Jesus quote unquote moment

690
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: working on the Chicago Board of Trade for a couple

691
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: of weeks and I had a helmeless guy actually asked

692
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: me for some money, and I was on my giant

693
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: Soul cell phone, you know those old cell phones we

694
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: had in the mid nineties that were like as big

695
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: as a forearm, trying to act cool. I probably was

696
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: talking to my mob, I don't know, or something. Boy,

697
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: no one else would talk to me. And the guy

698
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: asked me for money, and I said, I just kind

699
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: of ignored him, and he he goes, hey, asshole, I

700
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: just asked he for some money. You got five thousand

701
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: dollars suit on. You can't even give me a little money.

702
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: First of all, my suit was probably from like TJ

703
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: Max or something. It definitely was not a five thousand

704
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: dollars suit. But I was like, I was stunned and

705
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: like really jarred, and I turned around and looked at him,

706
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: and I just stopped and just realized kind of like, man,

707
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: this is a guy who needs something. Hundreds of people

708
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: are just walking past and completely ignoring him, and like

709
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: how sad that was, And just it really moved me

710
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: to say, you know, one, I'm going to help this

711
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: guy out, and then two like this is not what

712
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: I should be doing with my life. And I actually

713
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: just went back to graduate school in Chicago, got my

714
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: masters in social work, and then started working in the

715
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 3: foster care system out in Los Angeles, and largest foster

716
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 3: care system in the world.

717
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: Thought I could.

718
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: Change the world then was not right, but did get

719
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: a lot of experience and really started understanding how vulnerable

720
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: young people coming out of foster care system were if

721
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: they didn't have a support system. My expectation, my experience

722
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: was there was families like mine who not only would

723
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: love and care for kids, but they'd enable them to

724
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: go to college or help them start businesses. And the

725
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: truth was most of the kids that ended up in

726
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: foster care were not landing in situations like my family,

727
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: and so just really wanted to be a part of

728
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: something like Covenant House that kind of creates that environment

729
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: for young people that didn't have it to be able

730
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: to thrive and pursue their dreams.

731
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Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit to where we're at

732
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: in terms of kids, teens and the biggest issues and

733
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: the homeless situation for young people in this country right

734
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: now and elsewhere.

735
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think one of the most alarming

736
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: statistics to me is that in the US alone in

737
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, there will be four point two million

738
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: young people who will have at least one night where

739
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: they don't have a safe place to sleep. That means

740
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: somebody we know, you know, a niece or a neighbor

741
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: or a cousin is probably having something happened this year

742
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: where they're not going to have a safe place to sleep.

743
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: And it's really alarming to me. In a country that

744
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: you know, purports ourselves to be so wealthy and have

745
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: everything together, we've got some major problems if our young

746
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 3: people don't have safe places to sleep. And when you

747
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: look at who these young people are, Rachel's right, it

748
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: could be any one of us that could be in

749
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: this scenario. A lot of young people coming out of

750
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: foster care juvenile justice systems that you know, we took

751
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: into systems under the pretense of having to protect them

752
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: or keep them safe, and then they turn eighteen and

753
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: we're saying good luck. Meanwhile, most of us with our

754
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: own kids are staying in our homes till they're twenty

755
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: six or thirty years old, and we're trying to figure out, like,

756
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: what do we do here? So it's just unrealistic expectations

757
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: for what young people are going to be able to

758
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: do after, you know, years of being in system care.

759
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: The other thing that's so startling to me is that

760
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, forty percent of young people nationally the experience

761
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: homelessness identify as LGBTQ. So you've got kids who are

762
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: becoming homeless as the result of their identity and being

763
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: rejected by their families or their communities because of their identity.

764
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: And as a parent, that one's really hard for me

765
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: to reconcile as well. I just can't imagine anything my

766
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: kid would do or be or say that would you know,

767
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: have me push them out of my house? And so

768
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: I think we've got some real education and some real

769
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: peer accountability that we need to start creating in our

770
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: communities to say, hey, these are our kids and we

771
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: got to take care of them.

772
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: That is a really fascinating overlap between intolerance and struggle

773
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: and homelessness. And I that I'm really shocked to hear

774
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: that that's not a statistic I was aware of either

775
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: one of those. That is really really, really fascinating. Can

776
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: you tell me, sort of like on a day to

777
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: day basis, what what the work of Covened House is doing?

778
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: So just kind of explain if you were a kid

779
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: or you know, what, what what how would it function?

780
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, either one of you, I'm sure you've had experience,

781
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, being on the board, Rachel. So I'm just

782
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: curious about, Uh, you know what is what's what's the day,

783
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: what's the what's the day's work at Covenant House?

784
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I I'll tell you the last ten

785
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: years be that Covenant House has been one of the

786
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: It has been the greatest joy in my life from

787
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: having to be around these young people and hear their

788
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: stories and just see how resilient they.

789
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: Are and how hopeful they are.

790
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: And what we're trying to do in these thirty five

791
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: cities across the America is is just creating an experience

792
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: for them where they get to feel unconditional love, acceptance,

793
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: and then just people who pursue them in a way

794
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: that they may not feel worthy of. And so I

795
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: say that because where we start in most cities is

796
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: doing street outreache, actually looking for young people, and even

797
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: if we don't have beds for them, because we're full.

798
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: In every city that we work in, we want to

799
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: demonstrate to young people that they're worthy of being pursued,

800
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: that there's people out there that care about them, and

801
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: that we want to create connection for them so that

802
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: they can have their basic needs and that and most importantly,

803
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: we're trying to show them that they're loved and that

804
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 3: they're worthy of love, and so once they come into

805
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: our programs, we're really creating an environment that has kind

806
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: of a full continue of support everything from short term

807
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: housing to long term house housing, but the medical attention,

808
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: mental health support, educational and employment support, and just engaging

809
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: them also in the ways the things that bring them joy.

810
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: And so like Rachel and her team, they've done kind

811
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: of actor workshops with our young.

812
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: People are cool come in that.

813
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: Do game nights or playing basketball. I mean, one of

814
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: the most beautiful thing I think about our Covenant House

815
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 3: communities is that we ask people to volunteer and engage

816
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: in a way that they're doing things they love to do,

817
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: so that when they're doing it with our young people,

818
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: they get to experience that joy and doing something new

819
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 3: that they may have never ever experienced, that opens their

820
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 3: eyes to you know, develop relationships with people and have

821
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: a good time.

822
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: Because this is one of the things I think we

823
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: don't talk about a lot, especially as it relates to

824
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: young people experiencing and overcoming homelessness, is that it looks

825
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: like so much more than what we can imagine. You know,

826
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: Bill was talking about these staggering numbers of young people

827
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: who are going to experience some form of homelessness that

828
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: could mean that they have housing instabilities for one night,

829
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: or experience kind of bouncing around between family members but

830
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: not exactly knowing where they're going to sleep at night

831
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: for a month, you know. And at the same time,

832
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: a lot of young people at Covenant House, and a

833
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: lot of young people who arrive at Covenant House are

834
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: trying to balance their lives in school and sometimes work responsibilities,

835
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: and so young people who are arriving at Covenant House.

836
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: And one of the things I've been so grateful for

837
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: during my time there has been to learn about so

838
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: many of these different stories, and they vary so far.

839
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: These are our future lawyers and doctors and artists and teachers,

840
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 2: and brothers and sisters and sons and daughters and friends

841
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: of other people. And so one of the things that

842
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: I feel like Covenant House does so successfully is, as

843
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: Bill mentioned, you know, there's this continuum of care. There's

844
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: so many different avenues for support, and so many different

845
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: potential avenues for the direction that young people can head

846
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: in with additional support after their time at Covenant House.

847
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: You know, as Bill said, you know, I had been

848
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: a part of some arts workshops with the young people there.

849
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: But I've got friends who have come in and helped

850
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: with job readiness, so preparing young people to do job

851
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: interviews to find employment. Bill, I know that for a while,

852
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if this is still a program that

853
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: we've been doing, but the partnership with the US open

854
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: or we were training young people to be security guards,

855
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: for example, there was an avenue towards nursing programs towards

856
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: obtaining a ged if that's necessary. Legal support. You know

857
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 2: something that I didn't know before working with Covenant House

858
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: is that a lot of young people, as you can imagine,

859
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: especially if you're spending time on the street, may have

860
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: run into legal trouble, even for things as small as

861
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: jumping a turnstile, or may not have access to proper identification,

862
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: to birth certificates or driver's licenses. And this is all

863
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: support that Covenant House can offer. I feel like it

864
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: is about meeting young people exactly where they're at and

865
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: then asking them and acknowledging whatever their dreams are and

866
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: figuring out how we can be a part of getting

867
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: them between where they are and where they want to be.

868
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so fascinating and so helpful and built.

869
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: I have.

870
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: There is a two prong question. Number one is what

871
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: would you say is the most pressing need right now

872
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Speaker 1: for COVET in house and how can people get involved

873
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: and help out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think there's a couple things. I

875
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: mean one is just like you've been surprised by some

876
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 3: of the things you're here today, right, And I think

877
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: that's part One of our biggest issues is people just

878
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: don't know. People don't know how many young people in

879
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: our country are at risk. You talk about four point

880
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: two million that aren't going to have a safe place

881
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: to sleep at least one night this year. We've really

882
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: got to get the word out and people understand that, hey,

883
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of young people are at risk here.

884
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: And the truth is that if you experience homelessness as

885
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: an adolescent, you're so much more likely to be one

886
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: of those people who then end up being chronically homeless

887
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Speaker 3: as an adult. And this is so preventable. There's just

888
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: no reason that this should happen. We should be able

889
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: to ensure that our young people have a safety net.

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Speaker 3: So raising the awareness, we've got to change some laws

891
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: to ensure that kids coming out of foster care and

892
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: juvenile justice.

893
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: And we're growing up in welfare.

894
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: Don't have to fall through the cracks and end up

895
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: in these really vulnerable situations. And then one of the

896
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: other biggest drivers of homelessness that's starting to happen is

897
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Speaker 3: just the lack of affordable housing, not just for young

898
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: people but anybody. But in no major city in North

899
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: America right now can you make a living wage and

900
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: afford a market rate apartment. So we used to tell

901
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: people like, well, just get a job and then you

902
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: won't be homeless. The truth is you could be working

903
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: fifty sixty hours a week and still not afford to

904
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 3: be in an apartment. So we've got some real work

905
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: to do to address that housing disparity. And you know,

906
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Speaker 3: one of the things that I think, you know, Covenant

907
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: House has taught me is that none of these young

908
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: people deserved to be given up on. And even in

909
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 3: the situations where you think like, well that's a hopeless situation,

910
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: there is hopefulness and they have dreams. And there's a

911
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 3: young man named Derek I just want to share about

912
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: because he just is such an inspiration. I mean, he

913
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: grew up on skid row in Los Angeles, So his

914
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: whole life, people would drive by and be like, you know,

915
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: that kid doesn't have a chance. Had to stop going

916
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: to school of third and fourth grade because his mom

917
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: was homeless and struggled with addiction. And this is a

918
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: guy who came to Covenant House at the age of

919
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: eighteen and got back into school and started thinking about

920
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: what was possible for himself as a result of people

921
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: believing in him. And what was remarkable to me is

922
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Speaker 3: despite his mother's addiction and mental health issues and the

923
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: way he grew up, she loved him and she always

924
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: instilled in him a kind of a sense of gratitude.

925
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: And so throughout Derek's journey at Covenant House, he always

926
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: had this sense of joy and I guess just kind

927
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: of this resilience that always inspired me. And Derek stayed

928
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: with us for a couple of years, kind of worked

929
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: through our housing programs and got into his own apartment,

930
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: worked a couple jobs at a time to be able

931
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 3: to afford this apartment. It was so amazing is a

932
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: lot of the young men that he would meet at

933
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: Covenant House would not have it as good as him.

934
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Speaker 3: Kind of the year after they moved out and Derek

935
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: would let them come to his house and crash at

936
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: his house until he got them on their feet. But

937
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 3: his way of getting them back on the feet was

938
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: reconnecting with Covenant House and saying, hey, this is your family.

939
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 3: If you have a challenge after you leave Covenant House,

940
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: you got to go back. They're going to help you.

941
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 3: It was just so amazing. He's been such a great

942
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: ambassador for us. And I saw him a couple of

943
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: weeks ago and could not have been more happy for

944
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: him because he became the property manager of our first

945
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: affordable housing site in Los Angeles, where he's going to

946
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: live there and kind of maintain the culture and accountability

947
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: for another twenty five young people that are going to

948
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: come into their own apartments that are working, and he

949
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: gets to set an example for them of just living

950
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: in joy and living in purpose in a way that

951
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: no one ever thought was possible for him as they

952
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: drove by this little kid on skid row. And so

953
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 3: I think it just speaks to the power of being

954
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: enabled to invest in a young person, even when they're

955
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: an adolescent, that there is so much purpose and possibility

956
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: for them that we can be a part of. And

957
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: it's been a joy for me to be a part

958
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: of stories like Derek's and hundreds and hundreds of more

959
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: that I've gotten to see over the last ten years.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love that story. And if anybody wants

961
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: to check out the work, it's Covenant House dot org.

962
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: Is that correct, that's right, Covenanhouse dot or Covenant House

963
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: dot org. Well, I want to thank Bill Badrosian for

964
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: being here today and telling us about this amazing organization.

965
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: I think that people will be really fascinated to see

966
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: it here and look at all that good work that

967
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: you're doing. And thank you so much for taking the time, Bill,

968
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Speaker 1: and to the marvelous Rachel Brasnahan for being here with

969
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: us today and sharing just hanging out with me. I mean,

970
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: I could talk to you all day about the process,

971
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: and as I said, I'm thrilled with you as a

972
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: performer and I can't wait to see what you what

973
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: you do next.

974
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Speaker 2: Well, this is really cool. Thank you for taking the time,

975
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: and you've also just been such a kind champion of

976
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: mine for such a long time, even from Afar, So

977
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Speaker 2: thank you and thank you for taking the time to

978
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: highlight Covenant House and the important work that they do,

979
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Speaker 2: and I also just want to very quickly at as

980
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: far as ways that people who might be listening could

981
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: get involved.

982
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: She's a good board member, she's a good board member.

983
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: Of great great board member.

984
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: You said, you know, you mentioned you can go to

985
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: Covenant House dot org to learn more about the organization.

986
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: Follow Covenant House International or your local Covenant House. As

987
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 2: Bill mentioned, Covenant House operates in thirty is it thirty

988
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: five cities now built? Thirty four to thirty five cities

989
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: across Yeah, across the US, Canada, Latin America. So you

990
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: can follow your local Covenant House, your closest Covenant House

991
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: and see how you might be able to get involved

992
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: on a local level on Instagram, on Twitter, and there's

993
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: also there are sleepout events that happen either one that

994
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: you can create during what is this event called now,

995
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 2: Bill the sleepout that happens all over the country.

996
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a national sleepout.

997
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: National sleepout. It's changed titles a couple times over the years.

998
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: But you can start a sleepout event where you can

999
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: sleep out with friends or family or colleague or community

1000
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: members to support young people overcoming homelessness. You can raise

1001
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: money and awareness through your own sleepout. You can join

1002
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: a sleepout if you happen to live near one that's happening.

1003
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Speaker 2: There are so many different ways to get involved, so

1004
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: keep track of these various Covenant Houses through these different channels,

1005
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: because we would love, we would love to have you

1006
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: join us.

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00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for that, and thank you guys,

1008
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: and thank you everybody for listening, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time. Hey, everybody, thanks for listening to another episode

1010
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Speaker 1: of Six Degrees with Kevin Bacan. And if you want

1011
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: to learn more about Covenant House and all the amazing

1012
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: war that they are up to over there, just go

1013
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: to their website, which is Covenanthouse dot org. You can

1014
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: find all the links in our show notes, and hey,

1015
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: if you like what you hear, make sure you subscribe

1016
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Speaker 1: to the show and tune in through the rest of

1017
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Speaker 1: our episodes. You can find Six Degrees with Kevin Bacon

1018
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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you next time.

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