1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian. If you've got a tough time 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: walking into repair shop and you're you're under scrutiny and 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: you're not made to feel welcome, and you know, maybe 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: that's not the shop for you. It's it's what are 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: you looking for? You're the car doctor. What are you 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: gonna go buy for five grand? I've been looking at 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: right and you kind of know what you have. Welcome 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight five five five 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey, let's get star. Let's welcome 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: up board and thanks for being here to allow me 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: to partake with you this weekend on what's going on 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: with your automobile? Your automobile questions. Let's go to David 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. David, what's on your mind? Ronaldadi? And at 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: your servicer? Hi, Ron, Uh, well, we all know about 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: the computer stuff you know going on, But I want 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: to build an older truck pull rod drive. I've got 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: a few years before I retire, but I wanted some 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: that's dependent all three quarter time and hopefully a quad cab. 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: But you just don't know what you're do. They start 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: putting the computers and the afford I want to afford 26 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: and uh, further engine swapping. I want to run a 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: gas engine. What are you trying to achieve, David? Or 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: is it just for fun? I'm not. I don't want 29 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: to build a d trucking on like that. I want 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: to possibly pull the trailer for camping and visiting the 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: beautiful country of ours, you know what. So the first 32 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: issue that's gonna come to mind, you know. And I'm 33 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: not hijacking this call, but I'm just gonna tell you 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: this story. When I was in college, I drove a 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: seventy two Monty Carlo. I drove it everywhere, all right, 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: and there's many a time it broke and I'd get 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: out of the car and I had my tools with me, 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: and i'd lock it up, and i'd walk into the 39 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: town or hitchhike to the town and get the parts 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: that I needed if I didn't have it with me, 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: because I usually had stuff with me and I'd bring 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: it back and I'd fix it. I could buy all 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: the parts. The problem is, you know, to take a 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: seventy two Monty Carl at a Boston on a regular 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: basis today would be difficult because I'd walk into a 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: parts store and they'd look at me and go, what 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: are points and condensers? Uh? You know, they just they 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have parts. So, you know, you've got to think 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 1: if you're gonna build this seventy nine or older, you've 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: got to think. You know, it would be nice to 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: have a modern day drive train, so you could get 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: parts for it, or somebody could work on it. But 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: yet it would be kind of old and cool, and 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: it didn't have a computerization on it. If you follow 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's exactly what I'm looking for you. So, 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: why don't we go back a little Why don't we 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: go back a little older? All right? Why are we 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: going to the fifties? I don't know how you know? 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Is that too? Is that too old? To boxy? My 60 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: first truck was a fifty seven. Okay, so you know 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing like going home again. Brother, all right, we 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: get a fifty seven, We go buy a fifty seven 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Ford pick up, but we put a seventy five for 64 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: drive train in it. Well, I think, unless understood, um, 65 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: seventy nine is the oldest I want to go. I 66 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: like the O B S. Let me a little back gard. 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I brought a nineties seven just a little 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: while ago, a year and a half ago. But there's 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: a California truck. I have access to California and Texas 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: to get vehicles. All right, But if you but if 71 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: you go night on the Top, if you go, if 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: you go ninety seven, if you go newer than seventy nine, 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna have a computer on it or mind I 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: just understanding they started putting BM Well you know, GM 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: started computerization, but certain Cadillacs had as early as seventy six. 76 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you don't want a computer on 77 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: a car, if you want nuts, bolts, points and condensers 78 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: kind of stuff you've got, you've got to go older 79 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: than seventy nine. You've got to go, you know, seventy seven, 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: seventy five even I'm trying to remember now, I think 81 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: Ford had electronic ignition back in the late seventies, So 82 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have ignition modules on distributors. You're gonna have 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: to go back if you're looking for points, or if 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: you're looking to put your own ignition system in. You know, 85 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: That's why I say, what are you trying to achieve? 86 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: You're trying to make just an old truck so you 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: don't have to deal with computers, or you're trying to 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: deal with something just a little bit older for classic nostalgia. 89 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: What's you know? What's the it on your mind? Well? 90 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: I liked my ninety seven, but what happened was they 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: had four sixty in it, and the caveaching cover cracked, 92 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: and it's got a darned center in it, and it 93 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: wasn't available in California. You know, they want to eliminate 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: the big watch. But I just obligated to do a nineties. 95 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: But make sure I get it from Texas that's got 96 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: a federal motor, I guess. But now you're gonna buy 97 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: something that's let's see a ninety five Ford. Let's say, 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: if you buy a Ford two thousand five, you're buying 99 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: something that's almost thirty years old. You gotta think about 100 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: you gotta think about parts availability. Ford won't have it. 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff will come out of the aftermarket, 102 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: if the aftermarket has it. I had a customer this 103 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: week at the shop with a two thousand one Ford 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: Ranger sixty miles sixty truck. Nice little truck. It's got some, 105 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: it's got some, it's got some rod on it underneath. 106 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: He uh, he just undercoated it with New Hampshire oil 107 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: undercoating and uh he's hoping that that preserves it to 108 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: keep it going a little bit longer. And the problem 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: is he needs an A B S controller. The NLC 110 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: BRAK control module for it doesn't make for it doesn't 111 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: make it anymore. It's obsolete. There's one dealer well as 112 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: of as of Wednesday, there was one dealer in the 113 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: country that said they had it. And by the time 114 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: we got around to look in again at it Thursday morning, 115 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: it was gone. Either that or the inventory got updated. 116 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: But here's a guy with a truck. What does he do? 117 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, we we can't get parts for twenty year 118 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: old vehicles. How are you gonna get parts for twenty 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: five year old vehicles? That's what I'm saying. If you, 120 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: if you want to do something all stalgic, get something old. 121 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Put a modern day drive train in it this way, 122 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you can welcome too a parts store and say I 123 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: need X, Y and Z, I need an alternator, I 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: need a starter, I need you know, a widget to 125 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: make this thing run. And at least you got a 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: chance of sir vival. That's and then it's something old 127 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: and cool. I don't know if you want to go 128 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: that old, but you know, it's either that or you're 129 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: just gonna put on an old school three or two 130 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: in it with a carburetor and and and a three 131 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: speed trans And that's but I don't know if we 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: can do that, you know, David, I don't know if 133 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: we as a society we could go back to driving 134 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: three speed simple. I don't think people would enjoy that. 135 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: You know. It's it's it takes too much effort to 136 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: drive an older car. Now. You really have to be 137 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: focused and attentive. And I drive my old cars and 138 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I say, my god, how did I do this full 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: time as a kid. I'm I'm worn out, No, I 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: hear you, and I'm not alive it. For my daughter, 141 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: I have a nine five trans Am I'm warring to 142 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: sell because it's too much car for I don't want 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: her to have it, right, you know, so that was 144 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of my budget to get going, you know, and 145 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: I like him man, because half the world can drive 146 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: one's security. Listen, there's no there's no rule that says 147 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: you can only have one old vehicle, build one, you 148 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: want another one, build another one, you want another one, 149 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: build another one. Life's too short. Enjoy the road while 150 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: you can. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I 151 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: insurance guy keeps putting his hand down. Well that's okay, Listen, 152 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: you can't take it with you. I've looked in the 153 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: back of herses. There's no there's no piggy bank. You 154 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: don't get to you don't get to take it with 155 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: you when you go. And my point becomes, don't procrastinate either, 156 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, don't go into analysis, don't go into analysis paralysis. 157 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Buy something, build it and get it going. So, uh, 158 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'm floored by all the guys. I know, 159 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: the older guys. I know that. You know, they've got 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: two or three older hot Rods, big Blocks this and 161 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: big Blocks that, and old rare Chrysler cars, you know, 162 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: and they're in their seventies now, they're older than me, 163 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, I'm gonna get around so I'm 164 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: gonna restore it one of these days. Dude, You're gonna 165 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: be dead one of these days. You know. It's like, 166 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: build the car, get going. Stop. Um So no, I 167 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it. You know, that was a great conversation. Enjoy 168 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: your show. Thank you. Yeah, I hope I did. I 169 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: hope I didn't come down too hard on you know, 170 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: hope I gave you something to think about. But it's like, 171 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, listen, if I was going to build an 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: old truck, I guess the fantasy of mine would be 173 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: I'd want to build a fifties truck, you know, with 174 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: a modern day drive train, and I'd put fuel injection 175 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: in it, and I'd put a modern day computerized fuel 176 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: delivery system. And it's something that I could still get 177 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: parts for because parts are the key, and I would 178 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: drive that as an every day shop truck. I thought 179 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: it would be a really neat thing to do. I've 180 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: played around with taking my nineties seven Ranger and putting 181 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: a V eight in it with a you know, and 182 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: doing the body work, and you know, but it's it's 183 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I've already got three projects in the middle of I 184 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: don't need a fourth. So it's for me. It's just 185 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: a question of time what I want to do. But 186 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: it's just about asking the computer. I guess right, well, 187 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: now you don't want to well, you don't want to 188 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: bypass the computer because you want a modern drive train 189 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: that you can get parts for, that's kay. But you 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: want something that you can upgrade and change. So it's 191 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: just you know, listen, I I question all these modern 192 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: day cars, and then I'm gonna go I question a 193 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: lot of these modern day hot rods that people think 194 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna have twenty and thirty years from now. And 195 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't know where they're gonna get the computer chips 196 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: for him. You know, if it needs a modules a computer, 197 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's not You're just not going to 198 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to unless somebody comes out, unless they 199 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: create an industry that's gonna you know, old school electronics 200 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: or something. I don't know if somebody's ever going to 201 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: do that, but uh, you know, so that's it, sir. 202 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: I hope it helped you did. You did give me 203 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: another train of thought, and that's always welcome. You're very welcome, 204 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. You'd be well take good care of Ron. 205 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Any of the car doctor. We're back right after this. 206 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: That's right. If you call and we're not live, you 207 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: can leave a message and we'll call you back to 208 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: get you on the air with Ron eight five five 209 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron Grey is Hey, 210 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: let's get over Jim and Missouri three four tourist. Jim, 211 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctice, sir, how can I help hither? 212 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. You're welcome. So it's like 213 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: says all three tours um. It starts to its intermitten 214 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: and very intermitting, but it will start to cut out 215 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: and lose power and engine light to come on. And 216 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: it's P zero one nine three fuel tank real fuel 217 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: real pressure sensor circuit issure high. Yeah, so the pressure 218 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: too high. So I studied up on this because I 219 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: don't want to be a part changer, and I decided 220 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: it had to be the the fuel pressure regular module 221 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: which is mounted behind the passenger seats back. Ye, a 222 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: lot of fun. So anyway, I changed that, give it 223 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: back to messages. So she lives an hour away and 224 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: ram fine per day and then came back. It's still 225 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: doing it. In the meantime, she went to a gas 226 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: station card wouldn't start and had to be towed, and 227 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: it was a bad starter. So that shop looked at 228 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: this problem and they're telling her it's a bad fuel pump. 229 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: And I told her not to do that part, and 230 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: she got the start to put on. I drove it 231 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: home first ten minutes. It was ran terrible, and then 232 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: it cleared up and ran perfect rest of the way home. 233 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: So I want your opinion because I don't understand how 234 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: a fuel pump can put pressure too high. The censor 235 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: tells the computer to tell them modo or what to 236 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: do right, because this is a returnless system, so they're 237 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: looking at fuel rail pressure to decide they pulse with 238 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: or they cycle the fuel pump. They don't just turn 239 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: the fuel pump on. They control how how how long, 240 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: how much, how high it allows pressure to build and maintain. Okay, 241 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: that's how I understood. I'm trying to make sure. So 242 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: if you go to the fuel rail pressure sensor which 243 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: is up on the rail, you turn the key on, 244 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: and you go across the white and the yellow wire 245 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: with a voltmeter and start the car um you know, 246 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: and if you could do this with a fuel pressure 247 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: gage attached, if you have forty pounds of fuel pressure. 248 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: Let's say you'll see about two and a half vaults 249 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: at the sensor. That's the correlation. So you could actually, 250 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: if you had a scantil, you could actually measure voltage 251 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: of the fuel rail pressure sensor what it's seeing with 252 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: the computer seeing and then you know if you catch 253 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: it in the act. If you could see you know, 254 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: seven vaults and the max is supposed to be five, 255 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: then and the fuel pump pressure is saying eight, you 256 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: know that that's not right. You know that the sensor 257 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: is out of whack. It's a bad sensor. See this 258 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: could be a bad sensor. Nothing more and nothing less. 259 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: But we can do a couple of tests. We can 260 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: look at the correlation between actual fuel pressure and with 261 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: the fuel pressure sensor is reading voltage wise, and you 262 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: can do that across the white and yellow with a vaultmeter. 263 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: The other the other thing to look at is um 264 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: If you look at that fuel rail pressure sensor, there 265 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: should be a gray and a red wire at the sensor. 266 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: That's ground. If that's a bad ground. If we have 267 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: a bad ground on something, Electrical voltage in most cases 268 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: tends to be high, right correct, So we could have 269 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: a bad ground. So we could have a ground issue, 270 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: all right, so you could you could go and take 271 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: a look at that. Alright, the key will be trying 272 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: to catch this in the act. That's going to be 273 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: the problem. Yeah, I have a scanner on it today 274 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: and it's running party pounds based on the scanner, you know, 275 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: which is normal, right, so good. So while it showed 276 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: it showed that it reached as high as eight. Okay, 277 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: so so while it's working, do this, you know you 278 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: know that it's you know, put it. Do you have 279 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: a fuel pressure gauge? Okay, put a fuel pressure gauge 280 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: on the rail. Nothing like testing a car when it's 281 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: not broken. Right, write all your numbers down, hope, the 282 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: fuel pressure gage up reads fort You go to the sensor, 283 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: it reads whatever in your car it reads two point five, 284 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: two point six, two point seven, whatever it is. That's 285 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: the way your car is. So forty is two point seven. 286 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Let's say all right, now you know now the car 287 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: if you can catch the car in the act, or 288 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: if you can come up with a way to maybe 289 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: put a voltmeter on there and keep it on their 290 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: permanent and put it on the front seat and you 291 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: drive it. Your your sister drive it and you show 292 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: her how to put the voltmeter and record mode. Big deal. 293 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: You wear out of nine volt battery, you can you 294 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: can afford the three dollars, right, and you know it 295 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: will glitch if it glitches. And that's the other thing. 296 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: You may see a glitch driving around with a d 297 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: v o M. A good d v o M anyway, 298 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: be nice with the scope. But you probably you know, 299 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know him out of my realm here. Um, 300 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: it would be it would be nice if you could, 301 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, record it if you momentarily see a glitch 302 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: up to a d p S. I. Yeah, it's kind 303 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: of hard. For a few Usually a fuel pump fails 304 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: by now it would have failed, all right, It wouldn't 305 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: be logical. Now I will say this in all fairness. 306 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Is that the original pump we bought it used but 307 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: to my knowledge as okay pumps twenty years old. Yeah, 308 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, because then the next problem you're gonna have. 309 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Do you have an O'Riley otoparts by you? Yep? Go 310 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: visit them and ask him, ask him what's ask him 311 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: what's the best fuel pump module they've got? Because you know, 312 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't believe Motorcraft or Ford is going to make 313 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: that part anymore, and you know you've got to You know, 314 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Delphi is a good brand. There's some good brands out there, 315 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: but ask I would trust whatever O'Riley Otto Parts says 316 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: they sell them they have no issues with because they're 317 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: they're good people. But I would I would start lining 318 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: that up. And I would also ask them about a 319 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: fuel real pressure sensor, because again we're dealing with an 320 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: almost twenty year old vehicle now. So my my theory 321 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: was that happened in that sense, if the sensor is 322 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: wrong and it's telling the computer at eighty pounds, it's 323 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: kind of have the pump running so slow that I'm 324 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: running out of fuel. But that assumption exactly right, because 325 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: it's trying to you know, when it sees pressure going hi, 326 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: the computer sitting there saying, hey, I can't use all 327 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: this fuel. Let's slow the pump down, and and right 328 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: now it's reaching a d p s. I my guy, 329 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: there's no way if forty five is my normal range, 330 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: now it's double unless unless the guy, the computer is 331 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: saying to itself. Unless this guy's got his foot to 332 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: the headlights and he's trying to you know, get home 333 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: before the pizza gets cold. I don't think he needs 334 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: double the amount of fuel. I'm gonna trim fuel back 335 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: and then you just essentially run out of gas. See, 336 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: don't don't confuse command. Command is what the sensor says. 337 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: The sensor says, I've got eighty pounds or I need 338 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: X because I've got X, I've got y. What the 339 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: pump actually says or does is another story. So you 340 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: can actually look at both of them. All right, do 341 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: those things call me back, let me know what happens. 342 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm curious to be well. Take good care, Jim, Thank 343 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: you very much. I'm running Name of the Car Doctor. 344 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back Running of 345 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor with you want to only open imitated 346 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: and never duplicated Thomas Ray. We we have way too 347 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: much fun on this radio show. We really do. You know. 348 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: Somebody said to me last week. You know, I like 349 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: listening to you guys, because especially when you guys talk together, 350 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: because you sound like you're having fun, and you sound 351 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: like you're you know, you're you entertain your you joke around, 352 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: and boy, if they can only see what happens behind 353 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: the scenes, behind the scenes, behind the scenes. You know, 354 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: we could probably sell that. You know. It's uh, it's 355 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: a It's a phone call in the middle of the 356 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: week at the shop and I just pick it up 357 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: and Tom's like, hey, what's going on? I'm like, where 358 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: are you? You know, I'm hanging off the side of 359 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: a tower three feet in the air out in Arizona 360 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: or something, and uh, the stories just go on from there. 361 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: Let's say, where are we going to Let's go over 362 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: to Matton, Pennsylvania for Alexis Matthew. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 363 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: How can I help? What's on your mind? Hey, Ron, 364 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. I have an opportunity to 365 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: buy a two thousand, four g X for seventy Alexis. 366 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: And I heard you talking about, you know, having trouble 367 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: getting replaced some parts for twenty year old vehicles. Do 368 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: you think I should think twice about that? I think 369 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: if you're okay with manufacturer parts as long as you 370 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: can get them, I think Toyota does a better job 371 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: in some cases than Ford. Quite honestly, I like four 372 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I have FOURD products in the family. But my experience 373 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: has been I'll see Toyota, Alexis make parts a lot 374 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: longer and more available, you know, pre pandemic. I haven't 375 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: tested this theory of late that. I haven't really noticed 376 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: as much with Toyota per se, uh you know versus FOURD. 377 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: I do know for it seems to be having their issues. 378 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: GM seems to be having their issues with parts. So no, 379 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I think if you like the vehicle and you're prepared to, 380 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, deal with what you gotta deal with. How 381 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: many miles we're on it? It's it's locally owned. It 382 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: was brought up from Texas, and if the if the 383 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: trans failed tomorrow, it was eight grand to put a 384 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: trans in that car. Would you I'm playing what if? 385 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: I'm playing what if? Yeah, I'd probably not to be 386 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: quite frank with you. Okay, how many what are you 387 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: paying for the vehicle? I mean about so so now 388 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: take now, take twenty grand and go see what you 389 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: can buy for twenty Yeah, okay, all right. And when 390 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: you find out, well that's that's fine. And when you 391 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: find out you can't buy anything for twenty, go buy 392 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: the Lexus for twelve and roll the dice twelves cheap 393 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: man twelves. Not a lot of money anymore, really, isn't so. 394 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: Second question, okay, another question. My wife had a two 395 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen Chevy Suburban and the transmission went out of 396 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: about a hundred fifteen thousand miles. Um. I would say, 397 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: I would say she's pretty easy on a car, right. 398 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: What could have made that go bad? Do you think 399 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: her just one of those things they have bad tour converters. 400 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: They've had a tour converter issue that GM trucks in 401 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: the last six or seven years. They've had issues with converters. 402 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: They've had issues with the trans is. I'm friends with 403 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: the trans builder one of the local GM dealerships, and 404 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Kevin's always got half a dozen or more trans is 405 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: stacked up around them, you know, doing overhauls lately. Uh, 406 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: they've they've they've had their issues. Um. Right now, the 407 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: biggest problem in GM transmission world is just lack of parts. 408 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: They are not able to get parts of assemblies. So um. 409 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: But then again, listen my old four suburban, my old 410 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: four suburban, and I tell the story like this, the 411 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: one I've changed its diaper every day of its life 412 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: for the past nineteen years. Puke the trans at fifty 413 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: five thousand miles. Yeah, it happens. Man. You know what 414 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: I looked at that the trans, the GM Reman Trans 415 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: was three grand. I couldn't replace the vehicle for less 416 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: than fifty You know, I put a trans and and 417 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm still driving into this day. I think the new 418 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: trans we're putting in is now about yep, Ye GM 419 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: dealer doing it, Jim, Yeah, it's about right, g M 420 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: d are doing it. Ask him and ask them why 421 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: did it fail? Say hey, I hear you guys have 422 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: some tork converter issues. See what they say to that, 423 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: because they do. They may not admit it, but they do, 424 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: and answer, Ask him what the warranty is on that? Okay? 425 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: I did have an extended warrant you it was just 426 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: over We're a hundred fifteen thousand miles and were covered 427 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: up to a hundred thousand ntil. We missed it. Probably 428 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: nothing else we can fall back on, right, No, they 429 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: they you gotta fall on your sword on this one, brother. 430 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: But it's cheaper. It's cheaper than it's cheaper than another car. 431 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: The question is, and the the key element here, and 432 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: I can't stress this enough, is you want a GM 433 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: certified trends, you want a factory unit. You don't want 434 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: anything after market. You don't want anything from uh you know, 435 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: a salvage yard. You want. You want a fresh GM 436 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: trends right from the manufacturer. And that should give you, 437 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: I believe. Don't quote me on this, you'd have to 438 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: look it up, but I believe that gives you a 439 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: three year minimum fifty thousand mile warranty, maybe a hundred 440 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: thousand mile warranty. Okay, I'll check that I had my mechanics, 441 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: I had my mechanic candle all that, that's exactly what 442 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: he ordered for. So but that's and that's what you want. 443 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: And then just just remind him. I'm sure he'll know. 444 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: Make sure he flushes the trans cooler because there's gonna 445 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: be contaminant up in there. You know. When the trans 446 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: failed it, uh, it usually puts fluid up through the cooler, 447 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: and I'll put contaminant through the cooler. And by the 448 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: same token, it's an eighteen, it's now going on five 449 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: years old, it's got a hundred fifteen thousand miles on it. 450 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: If the trans cooler is built into the radiator, maybe 451 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: now is the time they put a radiator in it. 452 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: Just just throwing it out there, you know, I look 453 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: at that. I look at things as systems. You know, um, 454 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: heat is critical. Heat makes things wear out. And again, 455 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: I would strive for a good quality radiator while I 456 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: can still get one. We're gonna be hanging onto our 457 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: cars a lot longer, you know, Matt. It's it's just 458 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: so obvious to me that you know, there's just no 459 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: I heard a story the other day, UM along the 460 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: lines of how hard it is defined cars. A gentleman 461 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: drove seven hours to Alexis dealership, walked in the door. 462 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: The dealership new he was coming. The gentleman walked in 463 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: the door, looked in the corner. There was an ls 464 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: L S six. I think it is UM. He he 465 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: was coming specifically for that car was advertised on their website. 466 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: He walked in the door and looked to the right. 467 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: So the car, I'll take. It didn't sit in, it 468 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: didn't drive, it didn't start it. Took out his checkbook. 469 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: The dealership said, it's number of dollars plus a thirty 470 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollar market incentive. The guy said, who do I 471 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: make the checkout to think about that one? Wow? Staggering, right, staggering. 472 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing anywhere from five to thirty thou dollar market 473 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: incentive cars out of dealerships now, just because there's such 474 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: a shortage and it's going to get worse. I don't 475 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: want to be doom and gloom, but I'm telling you 476 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: it's going to get worse. You've been driving a couple 477 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: of years, right, how many this this this time of year? 478 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Don't you usually see deals for closeouts on twenty two model? 479 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: You would see the previous model, your close out, right, 480 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: twenty Two's where's all the deals? There's no cars drive 481 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: by car dealerships. Look carefully at how the car dealership 482 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: has the vehicles lined up. They're usually parked at an 483 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: angle and there's one and a half spaces between each 484 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: vehicle to give the illusion that they have cars. The 485 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: majority of them are running short on cars. Not their fault. 486 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: It's the manufacturers who can't get it because there's no chips. 487 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: The American automobile industry is three and a half percent 488 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: of the domestic gross product in this country. You're gonna 489 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: see major economic impact if they don't get this thing 490 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: straightened out soon. It's gonna be really interesting. But in 491 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: the meantime, we all have to drive, we all need cars, 492 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: So fix it. I wouldn't be asking a mechanic what's 493 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: the least you could do. I would ask them to 494 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: go over the truck and make sure you get another 495 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles out of it. Alright, sir, you'll be well. 496 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You're very welcome. You'd be well. Take 497 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: good care. Zero the car Doctors cruising back right after this. 498 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: She's real Find my phone nights, she's real Find my 499 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: phone night, my phone, welcome back. Run name the car 500 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: Doctor zero nine zero zero. By the way, it's the 501 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor seven toll free number. You can call, leave 502 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: a message and tom rae we'll call you back and 503 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: put you in the next life. Que. We are live 504 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: on the network Saturday's two to four pm East Coast time, 505 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: and I should point out we've been talking about this. 506 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: We've got to get our act together. We're gonna be 507 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: on vacation. There's gonna be a weekend in August, but 508 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you guys two fresh shows. So we're 509 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna be looking for calls during the week if you've 510 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: got the ability to call in during the week at night. 511 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: We don't know what night of the week we're gonna 512 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: do this by all means call eight five five five 513 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Leave Tom a message and we'll 514 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: get you in the broadcast for the vacation show, as 515 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: we call it, and be fresh shows, good questions, good answers, 516 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: just you know, just we just want to keep you 517 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: guys up to date. That's what we're looking to do. 518 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: So help the Car Doctor go on vacation call in 519 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: um so you don't have to listen to Tom talk 520 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: about cars. Can only imagine. Let's let's go to Bruce 521 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: and Virginia fifteen out and they see what's going on 522 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: here and no start Bruce. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, 523 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: How can I help? Good afternoon. Yeah, I have a 524 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen Auti Q seven. It's a Diesel 525 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: turbo and uh, I parked the car for approximately three weeks, 526 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: and so I went out to start the car. Uh 527 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: it has just just to run it and it has 528 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: a keyless entry and keyless ignition. You you know, you're 529 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: simply sitting the seed, put your foot on the break 530 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: and head starting. It preheats and starts everything up. So 531 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: I went to start it, and it acted like the 532 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: battery was low, and and then and the starter was dragging, 533 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: and then it actually did not start. So I h 534 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: put a battery charger on it. And the second I'll 535 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: put the battery charger on it, the lights came on 536 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: and the horns started honking, and I did that for 537 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: about uh three or four minutes. Then the horns stopped honking, 538 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: the lights stayed on, and I left the charger on 539 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: it for a period of time at two amp, just 540 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: a slow charge, and I went back out an hour 541 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: or so later and it still seemed low and it 542 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't start. I even tried to boost it a little 543 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: bit and then it still wouldn't start, and then I 544 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: had Then you can manually put the key in the ignition, 545 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: so I did. I put the key in the ignition, 546 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: and then the uh the Now I can't get the 547 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: key out of the ignition. It's like it's locked in 548 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: the ignition and the dashboard lights stay on all the time. 549 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: Like get my I would? I would. My first question 550 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: would be is what kind of shape is the battery? 551 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: And at the batter revoltage is low? I've seen that 552 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: malfunction occur. Will it will actually lock up and not 553 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: let the key be released? Is it a fresh battery. 554 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: Is the battery charge to level or you don't know 555 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: now because it won't crank. Well, it's when I look 556 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: at the charger it shows good. I did not put 557 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: a vault leader on it, but it is a new battery. 558 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: Replace the battery about I'm gonna say thirteen months ago. Okay, 559 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: well we all we all know what new means. The 560 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: last time you tried cranking this, it didn't crank well? Correct, Well, 561 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: everything was fine? Uh it was, you know it was. 562 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: We were driving it daily. No, no, no, no, no. 563 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: The last the last time you attempted to start this 564 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: when it didn't start, you just said that it cranks. 565 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: It's still cranks slow after you had charged the battery. No, no, 566 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: it it did not crank slow. It didn't crank at all. 567 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: So it's that for three weeks I tended to start it, 568 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: it dragged, it did not start. I then put the 569 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: battery charger on it for a hour or so. I 570 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: felt like it would have been long enough. You know, 571 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: the charger show good. I tried to start it and 572 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: it does ben even attempt to start. Okay, when you 573 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: say the charger showed good, Bruce, what what sort of 574 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: test does the charger runs and putting a load on 575 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: the battery, or it's just telling you. It's just showing 576 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: you voltage. It's just showing vaulting, right, So it's it's 577 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: just showing I can show you two dozen batteries at 578 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: read twelve and a half vaults in the minute you 579 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: put any kind of load on them. They dropped like 580 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: a stone. So it's it's it's I don't know if 581 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: that's a valid test. I wouldn't take that as a 582 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: valid test. In the shop, I wouldn't consider it a 583 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: valid test. So let's let's let's let's cut to the 584 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: chase before the clock takes me the fact that the 585 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: battery ran down. There's a possibility that under slow cranking 586 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: and darrest you've now set some false codes in the 587 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: vehicle that's keeping it from starting. So a, you've got 588 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: to get the battery charge up to level be that 589 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: should release the key. If it doesn't, you've got to 590 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: get it somewhere that they can scan it to see 591 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: what fault codes are in there. Because I think the 592 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: first part of the problem is the from the sounds 593 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: of your description, what you're describing the battery was low 594 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: on charge, low on charge, will will in some cases 595 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: set false codes, lock the key and prevent the vehicle 596 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: from starting. Once you get a good battery in it, 597 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: or a battery up to level the key outs that 598 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: things start to function normally again, then we can decide 599 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: is there an additional problem. I don't think there will be. 600 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: I think I think from your what you're describing, this 601 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: is a battery problem. Um, as long as the fuel 602 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: in the tank is correct and there was no animal 603 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: intrusion or critter involvement while the vehicle sat. I wish 604 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: I had a better answer for you, bro Um, but 605 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: you know that's basically where I think you're going. Those 606 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: are the things you've got to do in order to 607 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: get this car back on the road. Do that call 608 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: me back next week. Zero. Let's pull over and take 609 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: a pause for the cause. I'll be back right after 610 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: this Welcome back running of the car Doctor Median article. 611 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: Tom said, No. This came from research Kathy about the 612 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: city of Pasadena. The city of Pasadena is adding more 613 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: vehicle charging stations. They've got forty four direct charging stations 614 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: at a municipal parking garage, and they're adding now thinking 615 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: about adding level two charging. They have got level three 616 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: possible sorry DCF for Level three charges and make it 617 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: possible for electric vehicle drivers to charge up in a 618 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: up to one miles in less than thirty minutes. Charging 619 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: from a level too will be completed overnight. Um, they're 620 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: talking about adding fourteen level two charges. They've got fourteen 621 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: level two chargers. They're talking about adding more at various 622 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: fire stations around town. And the point of the article 623 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: was that they're now charging people to actually charge their 624 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: electric vehicles at these charging stations, which kind of makes sense. 625 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I disagree with one point in the article because it says, um, 626 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: they talk about that people are buying more electric vehicles 627 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: over gas power to reduce pollution and conserve energy and 628 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: save money. I don't know how we're conserving energy. If 629 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: the electricity for EV vehicles what was the number Mark 630 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: mills tall? This ten percent comes from solar and renewable 631 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: and the rest comes from coal, natural gas, and nuclear. 632 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how that's saving energy. UM. I'm still 633 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: trying to get over the comment we had last week 634 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: about if if five people show up at your house 635 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: with different cars and everybody needs to charge their car 636 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: at once, how will they do it based on the 637 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: amount of electricity you have in the electrical service you 638 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: have in your house. It just, uh, it doesn't make 639 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: any sense to me. So, but that's going on out 640 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: in Pasadena. Uh, they're going to uh charge you for 641 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: electric energy. Um, I didn't read the article that I 642 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: wanted to about. In Texas. Uh. Texas municipalities have as 643 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: people not to charge their electric vehicles because they're having 644 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: a power shortage this summer. And they're saying that they're 645 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: afraid that they're gonna bring down the grid, which is fragile, 646 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: and they shouldn't they shouldn't charge their electric vehicles at all. Um. 647 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how they're gonna get around. The insanity 648 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: continues until the next time I'm run on any of 649 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: the car doctor reminding each and every one of you, 650 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you