Speaker 1: Yoseidel Yasha Man, Nick Cannon aka Dresse Jackson, AK mister Popular,
Speaker 1: ak Yo, Daddy's Daddy.
Speaker 2: We're getting it in. This is the Bootleg keV Podcast.
Speaker 2: Let's go. It's incredible.
Speaker 3: Bootlet keV Show. A big special guest in here, big
Speaker 3: inspiration of mine. One of the hardest working guys in entertainment,
Speaker 3: he also has quite possibly the most impressive hit list
Speaker 3: of all time. And here he go. Nick, I hit
Speaker 3: it first, Cannon.
Speaker 2: Dude, what's good man, I'll take the intro, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: What's up, belove it?
Speaker 3: You're good. I told you this because you call on
Speaker 3: the show. I was like, I'm just glad you ain't
Speaker 3: a powering the six anymore because now we can have
Speaker 3: you on the show.
Speaker 2: I know, man, but that's see I was talking a
Speaker 2: big about that. It was always love.
Speaker 3: It was always love.
Speaker 2: But you know, like that's old mentality.
Speaker 1: Like first of all, everybody owns all of their content
Speaker 1: now everybody like so the people move like dinnahs.
Speaker 2: So like this is our gang and that's your gag.
Speaker 3: I agree with you. We gotta let that.
Speaker 2: You gotta let that ship go.
Speaker 3: Listen. I totally agree with you. The problem is is
Speaker 3: that there are people who are in charge.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. We can't be maneuvering like
Speaker 1: well paid servants, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like you know there's like like my thing is, it's
Speaker 3: like damn, like I fuck with like so many people
Speaker 3: at Power one six.
Speaker 1: But that was like, first of all, I never like
Speaker 1: I didn't work for Power one six. I was with
Speaker 1: partners with them.
Speaker 3: So I heard did they give you a restaurant or
Speaker 3: something like that?
Speaker 2: A little we make some money, you know.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, like we got to stop
Speaker 1: thinking like especially I encourage anybody who wants to get
Speaker 1: into space of media entertainment, specifically podcasts and ready own
Speaker 1: your ship. Because when you do that, then if your
Speaker 1: boy got a podcast, I got a pocket, then we
Speaker 1: can get money together. But this mentality of like this
Speaker 1: is my station, that's your station.
Speaker 3: That's when you don't own the radio stations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's always like you gang banging on blocks
Speaker 2: your don't own.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, it's like you could wake up tomorrow
Speaker 3: and the company can be like we're flipping.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got to go get a job.
Speaker 1: Over at the places and then doesn't even exist anymore, right, Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but that's why I was always love like it was
Speaker 1: never like but I mean, like you said, the powers
Speaker 1: that be, because some of them get still stuck in
Speaker 1: that old school mentality of like the competition is how
Speaker 1: we come on.
Speaker 2: Man, we all can get numbers, we all can do.
Speaker 3: I think, what is something you learned from? Because you've
Speaker 3: done radio a lot. I don't think people understand you
Speaker 3: were on moving to New York. You still have the
Speaker 3: syndicated show with.
Speaker 1: Always my syndicated show, my syndicated countdown a decade.
Speaker 3: Right, You've been doing that for a long time. But then, like,
Speaker 3: you know, what did what did you learn from the
Speaker 3: Powerwin O six experience, because it obviously there was upstairs downs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think again, like I always say,
Speaker 1: like you got to move like a boss at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, and even more so like a leader.
Speaker 1: I mean, like we know what that brand means to
Speaker 1: our community, to hip hop and.
Speaker 3: So the legendary radio station.
Speaker 1: So that was the whole purpose for me even being
Speaker 1: over there, wanting to be like this. I was had
Speaker 1: a daily talk show at the same time I had,
Speaker 1: you know, mass singer whil'n out. So it was just
Speaker 1: another outlet for that I felt like was a real
Speaker 1: uh probably like fixture in the community that I could
Speaker 1: really harness. And even at time there was times where
Speaker 1: I was you know, they asked me if I wanted
Speaker 1: to buy the station now once once we looked into it,
Speaker 1: there's no point in, like, you know, it's probably overpriced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need to pay for dinosaurs, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean when you can go create something of your own,
Speaker 1: uh and invest the same amount of money and you
Speaker 1: only one hundred percent uh and you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about you know, satellite towers.
Speaker 3: And so they offered you to buy it. Yeah, oh wow,
Speaker 3: what what did you could jellus? How much it was?
Speaker 2: I mean it was six No, no, no, not that much.
Speaker 3: Oh really it was less. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just somewhere around around that area. So but
Speaker 1: to say all of that, it's like, you know, even
Speaker 1: the things like I've been able to you know, I'm
Speaker 1: probably one of the few people in entertainment that I
Speaker 1: was able to have deals at you know, NBC and
Speaker 1: Universal and Fox and Viacom and all those places at
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 3: It is kind of crazy yeah, I'm on every network. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so give me your okay. So when you're doing mornings
Speaker 3: and you have the TV show and you have mass Singer,
Speaker 3: and you have wild'n Out and you have.
Speaker 1: Don't forget my new number one show, Celebrity Prank Wars
Speaker 1: with Kevin number one, and you have the biggest family
Speaker 1: family know to man me NBA young boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had number eleven. He had number eleven.
Speaker 1: He might catch me because he started earlier than me.
Speaker 1: I had no kids. I was thirty.
Speaker 3: So what do you do in terms of like just scheduling,
Speaker 3: making sure you don't go crazy, making sure you have
Speaker 3: time for the kids, making sure you have time for yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2: I'll tell everybody it's like energy management. Man.
Speaker 1: If you see me, I'm cool, calm, collected. I know
Speaker 1: how to manage my energy probably better than most.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't move off of emotion.
Speaker 1: Or other people's energy because people think it's time management.
Speaker 1: But time is, you know, a man made construct that
Speaker 1: we all subscribe to. Like you can get enough of
Speaker 1: that you can get, but it's having the right team
Speaker 1: and knowing how to delegate your energy. Because I've been
Speaker 1: in situations where I've overly stressed myself. I've been in
Speaker 1: situations where there was literally too much on my plate
Speaker 1: and people were just constantly pulling at me. But when
Speaker 1: you know how to manage your energy, I think that
Speaker 1: that allows you to do more than the average human being.
Speaker 3: So it's about the key would be delegation.
Speaker 2: A little bit of it, I mean, how to delegate them.
Speaker 1: And also because we got some people who delegate in
Speaker 1: a way that like it's stressful and it's toxic, but.
Speaker 2: Like you just got to allow people.
Speaker 1: You know people's strengths, you know people's weaknesses, you know
Speaker 1: the ability to say I have this much to give,
Speaker 1: then I gotta go recharge.
Speaker 3: Right. And also so much like everything you do, you're
Speaker 3: you're you have to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 3: You're doing stuff you can do from the crib or
Speaker 3: you can like do on a laptop. No, you have
Speaker 3: to literally be in front of a camera.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But like somebody asks me or tell me, like, man,
Speaker 1: you don't have no free time. It's like all my
Speaker 1: time is free times perspective, it's how you look at it.
Speaker 1: Everything I do, I love it. So my vocation is
Speaker 1: my vacation. So it's a situational where, like I would
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff I get paid to do, I
Speaker 1: would pay to do, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I think that's that's really the nature of what I
Speaker 1: talk about, managing your band with your spiritual band, within
Speaker 1: your energy because from that standpoint, we make time for
Speaker 1: the things we want right and you know, as a father,
Speaker 1: you got to make that a number one priority. But
Speaker 1: then everything else is really just a big ass hobby.
Speaker 3: Wild'n Out is season twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we coming up on twenty right now.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because I do feel like when we think
Speaker 3: of like the most successful TV shows ever, I think
Speaker 3: that like wild'n Out has surpassed so many of the
Speaker 3: shows that we look back on and be like this,
Speaker 3: Like I think sometimes it's almost like when Lebron's playing,
Speaker 3: we don't realize we're watching Lebron. And I feel like,
Speaker 3: one day when wild'n Out's over.
Speaker 2: They're gonna appreciate it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be like, damn, wild Out was on for
Speaker 3: X amount and was heat and there was all these
Speaker 3: moments with all these fucking legendary artists, just so many
Speaker 3: just memorable and the.
Speaker 1: Fact that was dope about it because you bring up
Speaker 1: a good point of like what the definition of what
Speaker 1: a TV show is? We know, because that's our generation.
Speaker 1: The kids today don't even understand it to be a
Speaker 1: TV show. They understand it's like TikTok YouTube viral sensation.
Speaker 2: Kids.
Speaker 1: Kids used to come up to me and be like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I love your show. It's my favorite show. Now kids
Speaker 1: come up to me like, man, I love your videos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love I love you know, like they I love
Speaker 1: the content, Like they literally say that. So it's like
Speaker 1: nobody watches the big shit on the wall anymore. It's
Speaker 1: like it's in their hands on the iPads. And we're
Speaker 1: probably more successful online than we've ever been than we
Speaker 1: were on television.
Speaker 3: Well, the show is like very great for work. Today's
Speaker 3: like environment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, clips yep, the small we know how the compartmentalize
Speaker 1: and break up those clips for you know, all day long.
Speaker 2: And so one of the most I think we're.
Speaker 1: Probably the biggest UH digital imprint in UH the whole
Speaker 1: entire paramount network that includes Comedy Central, that includes b
Speaker 1: T Yeah, wilding Out. And we have more followers on YouTube,
Speaker 1: more followers on TikTok uh than anything else in the
Speaker 1: paramount ecosystem.
Speaker 2: So maybe the Daily Show might be like close on
Speaker 2: one of those.
Speaker 3: Can you give me some insight on like the beginning
Speaker 3: of wilding out, like the break, like you're like, this
Speaker 3: is your baby, this is your your you know your idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was just really trying to give my
Speaker 1: friends jobs. Like at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: people didn't know who Kevin Hart and A Crockett, d
Speaker 1: Ray Davis.
Speaker 2: Made a lot of these guys, they didn't.
Speaker 3: I don't want that, but you helped shine, You helped
Speaker 3: put them on the National Show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And because actually they were all my
Speaker 1: my colleagues and counterparts.
Speaker 3: They were they were you were that.
Speaker 2: I came up.
Speaker 3: You were doing a little stand up at a certain
Speaker 3: pointing time where I started, as you started in San
Speaker 3: Diego doing stand up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I started doing stand I mean I started, yeah,
Speaker 1: I started in that spat. I started in music obviously
Speaker 1: when I was even younger, but stand ups will put
Speaker 1: me on the mat, got me my first deal at
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox's Lallapalooza uh in Atlanta, and then from.
Speaker 3: There by the way, willis Jamie Fox.
Speaker 1: Yeah, always I'm believing in one hundred percent complete healing.
Speaker 2: That's my brother right there. We've been playing strong.
Speaker 3: For I might need security. One of the best specials ever. Yeah.
Speaker 2: First of all, he's the most talented man on the planet.
Speaker 3: One hundred say, I say it's either him or Chris Brown.
Speaker 2: Those are the one and two.
Speaker 1: Those are one and two and nobody else, because Chris
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to spread his wings the way Fox has.
Speaker 3: And I look at Chris is like, Chris is really
Speaker 3: good at basketball. Yeah, and he can paint a mural yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fact like all the other think about, like Jamie
Speaker 1: is amazing at football, stand up a classical piano impression
Speaker 1: between the two and both.
Speaker 2: Of them like the nicest human beings in the world.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's you want to go to either
Speaker 2: party at either one of those dudes out.
Speaker 3: So for whiling out, you kind of come from the
Speaker 3: stand up background. These are your friends, These are guys
Speaker 3: who you consider your peers, and for you, it was like, what,
Speaker 3: there's not an outlet.
Speaker 2: Well, I was doing movies and music and stuff at
Speaker 2: the time, so I left.
Speaker 3: Them cost the thing was already on. You were you
Speaker 3: were popping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those couchs looking at me like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: spread the love. So I was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to the MTV because I was I was
Speaker 1: hosting TRL doing all that stuff. So I went to
Speaker 1: them and they didn't understand it at first. They was
Speaker 1: like you want to do what? And I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: we got this comedy club and we do this this.
Speaker 1: Then it's like they ain't really understand it. So I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I rent the comedy club on myself,
Speaker 1: got some cameras together, uh, called everybody to the club,
Speaker 1: and we shot that ship. And therefore I owned the
Speaker 1: IP since the day one.
Speaker 3: So you bankrolled the demo, shot the demo yourself, facts,
Speaker 3: and then shopped it around and.
Speaker 2: Then then now I had. Now I had all of
Speaker 2: the equity and the negotiating power.
Speaker 3: Because how so for people who don't know, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of people are a little bit more familiar
Speaker 3: with like record deals.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you're trying to get a TV show deal,
Speaker 3: usually a production company comes in with the money to
Speaker 3: pay for the pilot, and that's their excuse to take
Speaker 3: ownership exactly. But if you handle that yourself, then you
Speaker 3: can at the table. I already got this handled. Yeah
Speaker 3: you want it or not?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then that everything from the wild and Out
Speaker 2: logo to all this it was all owned by me.
Speaker 3: Was it a scary situation where they tried getting you
Speaker 3: up out of here and it felt like they took
Speaker 3: you off TV?
Speaker 2: It was like it was got of cancel me like
Speaker 2: at least once a year.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, no, I know, there was the time
Speaker 3: I think it was a couple of years ago and
Speaker 3: you had the interview. I forget, I don't even want
Speaker 3: to get into this specific, but that's I mean, that
Speaker 3: was a learning moment that you went through with everybody.
Speaker 2: One percent, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, Like moments like that either show
Speaker 1: show your toughness and show how quickly you could fold.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think Martin Luther King said it best,
Speaker 1: is like the test of the true test of a
Speaker 1: man's character isn't in times of comfort, but in times
Speaker 1: of controversy. So that just showed you how solid I
Speaker 1: was to every community to where where most people instantly
Speaker 1: or they waiver, and where like I leaned into it
Speaker 1: and then began to understand and really focus not only
Speaker 1: on my business and saw who was riding with me
Speaker 1: and who wasn't. But then at the same time, any
Speaker 1: wrongdoings that I made, I corrected as every man should.
Speaker 3: And I think we need to be more. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy because we don't give a lot
Speaker 3: of people that opportunity anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean I got another show that I'm
Speaker 1: creating right now that I already created, that we already shot,
Speaker 1: that'll be debuting pretty soon. But literally does what deals
Speaker 1: with that? I mean, I coined the frame counsel culture.
Speaker 1: It's not about cancel culture. It's counsel culture. Don't cancel
Speaker 1: on another council one, and that to take your brother
Speaker 1: and show them how to shake it up and how
Speaker 1: to really get it right and give them an opportunity.
Speaker 1: None of us are greater than God, and so we
Speaker 1: should allow him to be the one to judge.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like in a time where like we're
Speaker 3: so at least perceived, I think we have a lot
Speaker 3: more in common than people would like to talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they always said there's more.
Speaker 3: There's likeilarities, they're differently small things that people are far
Speaker 3: apart out. But everything else. Everyone loves their family, Everyone
Speaker 3: wants to be safe. Everyone wants to be prospered. But
Speaker 3: if you don't agree on this or this, it's like
Speaker 3: you got to hate the other person.
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, and that's I mean a Buddhist
Speaker 1: mentality is we are one without uh, one without none,
Speaker 1: and none without one. So and that idea of like
Speaker 1: we got we need each other to operate. And if
Speaker 1: we keep allowing the powers that be to split us up.
Speaker 3: It really feels like it is some powers to be
Speaker 3: ship broa because.
Speaker 1: That's how they control you. They control you, divide and conquer.
Speaker 1: That's what they would really understand. Like again, like we
Speaker 1: got more similarities and differences and the ship that we
Speaker 1: bicker about. I mean, that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: I say while I was the most progressive show on television,
Speaker 1: because we can have people from two different walks of life.
Speaker 1: We can have someone from the Jewish community something from
Speaker 1: the Ransom community.
Speaker 2: And they go at it and hug it out at
Speaker 2: the end.
Speaker 1: We can have a homophobic person and a transgender person
Speaker 1: go at it and hug it out at the end.
Speaker 1: Because but they talk the most shit, say the most
Speaker 1: stereotypical offensive stuff. But when you say it's up all
Speaker 1: the guides of family and comedy and humor, we win.
Speaker 1: So but when you allow that stuff to be rooted
Speaker 1: and hate and therefore you think you better than somebody
Speaker 1: else because of your life experience trice versas, that's where
Speaker 1: shit goes wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's like people will talk out of
Speaker 3: like people will make mistakes, and I think that's just
Speaker 3: human nature. So if someone makes a mistake that's not
Speaker 3: from a hateful place exactly, talk to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they put the racist on pencils. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like, yo, fuck with earthlings.
Speaker 3: So the new show that you're working on is called
Speaker 3: it's called Council Culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you getting exclusive here because I actually
Speaker 1: it wasn't supposed to talk about that yet.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: It's something I kind of realized, man that when I
Speaker 1: was doing my daytime talk shows, like this ain't where
Speaker 1: the bag is, you know what I mean? All of
Speaker 1: that Llen money and Oprah money, they came and scooped
Speaker 1: all of that up.
Speaker 3: So like they kind of got the last of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I went in there, I was like, this,
Speaker 1: no way that this makes sense to make.
Speaker 2: It takes sixteen hours to make one hour and.
Speaker 3: The bandwidth of doing it every day, like.
Speaker 1: It was trying to do radio, Like it was literally
Speaker 1: draining me. So I had to step away. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I want to be able to do the
Speaker 1: same thing, have the same type of impact, but you know,
Speaker 1: consolidated and.
Speaker 3: Do all episodes of season or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but really, what even even though on a daily perspective,
Speaker 1: it's like it has to be able to be a
Speaker 1: part of my lifestyle opposed to me trying to come
Speaker 1: here and show up for work, like I don't work
Speaker 1: for nobody, So.
Speaker 2: It's like, if it feels like I got a job,
Speaker 2: then I'm out.
Speaker 1: But the fact that I can actually live my life
Speaker 1: and document the process and show the process and actually
Speaker 1: truly help people, and you know, the fact that I
Speaker 1: go to therapy a few times a week, how can
Speaker 1: I bring that to the table. The fact that you know,
Speaker 1: I have great relationships with the mothers and my children,
Speaker 1: and knowing how fascinated intrigue people are by my life,
Speaker 1: how can I offer that in a way to not
Speaker 1: only I can be open and honest and control my
Speaker 1: own narrative, but then at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: monetize it for.
Speaker 3: You talk about like you are. Listen, twelve children, Yes,
Speaker 3: twelve kids.
Speaker 1: Obviously you're and counting something they say and counting. Nah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm good with my dirty dozen right now.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you something. Do you ever regret not
Speaker 3: getting Kim Kardashian pregnant?
Speaker 2: You try to go viral?
Speaker 3: I'm just asking. I'm just asking because I look back
Speaker 3: at your history, and I'm like, man, if there was
Speaker 3: ever anyone that you could have put one up a
Speaker 3: bun in the oven, it could have been a billionaire,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 1: I believe that would alone. I'm tired of going viral
Speaker 1: every week. They already got mad at me about what
Speaker 1: I said about Taylor Swift. Oh you did say christ
Speaker 1: so I know that's now he says he's gonna get
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 3: He regrets because how would were Howard was kimming? You dated?
Speaker 2: We were both like in the mid twenties.
Speaker 3: Was this post Love Don't Cost a Thing?
Speaker 2: Or just right after Love Don't such a classic?
Speaker 3: Fucking just like a great movie.
Speaker 2: Mah man, it's fun. We're back.
Speaker 1: I've been I stepped away from from I kind of
Speaker 1: make like one movie a year that I own and
Speaker 1: control but I think I'm gonna dive back into movies
Speaker 1: in a little bit, like probably in the next five
Speaker 1: years and kind of get back to that space of
Speaker 1: like making classic content for our community.
Speaker 3: Have you thought about like they're like the lack of
Speaker 3: good comedies and it's crazy like done, I think cancel culture, yeah,
Speaker 3: or just over sensitizing.
Speaker 1: Just we lost all our r rated comedies that made
Speaker 1: it good comedy. Yeah, Hangup was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like since since some Hangover. Yeah, Girls, Trip
Speaker 3: and Bride'smaids are the only two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and those are I don't I don't where
Speaker 1: those I guess those where those are rated comedies.
Speaker 3: But like it's been twelve years since we've gotten like
Speaker 3: a classic hardcore comedy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I'm even in the sense of, like you said,
Speaker 1: to just stuff that even that you know you can
Speaker 1: sit around and watch it the family too, Like we
Speaker 1: don't have none of those like family film, we don't
Speaker 1: have it. We're our forest gumps where you know, like
Speaker 1: where's the stuff like that?
Speaker 3: Everything's like Marvel or yeah.
Speaker 2: Like Billy Madison or water Boy like that. Shit.
Speaker 1: I remember water Boy opening eighty million dollars this first week,
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's kind of crazy because I always think,
Speaker 3: like I'm like someone rich enough hello, uh needs to
Speaker 3: come along and just be like fuck it.
Speaker 2: You gotta focus on it though.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that to make a good movie, you
Speaker 1: gotta focus on that shit. Like one, it takes the money,
Speaker 1: but then it also you got to make sure your
Speaker 1: marketing is together on the post and even like you
Speaker 1: can't make a good movie without having a great script.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's stuff like that that you just
Speaker 1: It's like I've done independent films really well too. But
Speaker 1: then because you can make the greatest independent film in
Speaker 1: the world, but if it don't reach the amount of people,
Speaker 1: then nobody ever really really know except for the festivals
Speaker 1: that gave you, you know, your little laurels and crests.
Speaker 1: So if you to do a great classic film, you
Speaker 1: gotta check the boxes from development all the way to
Speaker 1: it's actually in the theaters. So it takes it. It
Speaker 1: takes to trust me. People ask me all the time
Speaker 1: and you should do more movies. It's like that's the
Speaker 1: most time consumer ship out there.
Speaker 2: It's to make a good movie.
Speaker 3: Good movie you could put you could put some Hood
Speaker 3: classic TV ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it shouts out to toob I fuck with them heavy,
Speaker 1: but he's running it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but if you if you want to make some
Speaker 1: classic ship, if you want to make minutes of society.
Speaker 2: Boards in the hood drum line. I love don't cost
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean like I think, you know, probably for the
Speaker 1: culture that they did it the right way. I love
Speaker 1: with what Mike b is doing from you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like creed to go down classics.
Speaker 2: I feel like Black Panther go down as classics.
Speaker 1: But anything else for the culture ain't resonated except for
Speaker 1: like those those Jordans.
Speaker 3: Obviously Jordan Peele's putting out some crazy Yeah, but would
Speaker 3: you horror movie? Yeah? With that? Is that?
Speaker 1: Are we are we gonna be talking about? I'm just
Speaker 1: a question, like I think get out absolutely out for
Speaker 1: sure out I'm not sure us or.
Speaker 2: What's the the other one?
Speaker 3: Fuck? It just came out, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like, but no offense.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, because you only can and what time
Speaker 1: will tell as well, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: like people, people didn't really start fucking with love don't
Speaker 1: cross the thing heavy into back then it was out
Speaker 1: on home video.
Speaker 2: I mean it. They're decent in the in the theaters.
Speaker 1: But then once it was constantly playing that your Auntie
Speaker 1: and your Mama's House all the time, then it became
Speaker 1: a classic. So you know, maybe these films that we're
Speaker 1: talking about today, but I'm saying the ones that feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about, we talking about Love Jones,
Speaker 1: we talk about do the right.
Speaker 2: Thing, We talk about the wood boys in the hood.
Speaker 1: There's none of that ship it's crazy or people try,
Speaker 1: but they come short.
Speaker 2: Every time I've come short, you know.
Speaker 1: But it was like, damn, you know why because the
Speaker 1: studio didn't like I made a film called that everybody
Speaker 1: it's a hood classic like school Dance, but everybody was talking.
Speaker 3: About is that the one James is in?
Speaker 1: James Jefferson, Yeah, yeah, but everybody was talking like when
Speaker 1: we was making it, they was like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: like the next Friday, because yeah, Pete Day saying, Tiffany Hattish,
Speaker 1: Kat Williams, George Lopez, Mike Epps, Kevin Hart, little Duvaut
Speaker 1: like now we had everybody in this motherfucker and it's
Speaker 1: hilarious if you watch it. But because Lionsgate didn't market
Speaker 1: it correctly and they didn't.
Speaker 2: They did, They didn't really know what they had. They
Speaker 2: just threw that ship out there.
Speaker 1: So it's like you got it going, I say, from
Speaker 1: the script to the time, like it's fucking in the
Speaker 1: theaters and like the marketing, all of everything gotta be pristine.
Speaker 3: Would you ever try to develop like a scripted like
Speaker 3: drama or comedy or something like.
Speaker 1: We got some shit, we got some shit coming, Like
Speaker 1: I got it. I got it pretty like I said,
Speaker 1: I got deals at all of these difference.
Speaker 3: Instead of like I do feel like we don't get
Speaker 3: it in movies anymore, but we do get it in shows. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we do, and that's old false fire. There's some great
Speaker 3: comedy shows.
Speaker 1: So I got We've been developing for a while and
Speaker 1: I just you know, I like making more moves and
Speaker 1: less announcements. But I can I can tell you about
Speaker 1: the ship that we've been cooking up and spending money on.
Speaker 1: Is a me E forty and too short, got yay
Speaker 1: area project? Is that the one Simpson?
Speaker 2: Uh no, no, not that one.
Speaker 3: That one's fire like that playing too short?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I heard about it.
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about this is like a series that
Speaker 1: the three of us are producing. That's gonna be like
Speaker 1: the same way that you see the BMF, the Powers,
Speaker 1: the Wise.
Speaker 3: A home for you or you just trying to put
Speaker 3: it together and then try some things.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about right now, but you're fifty cents
Speaker 1: leaving stars.
Speaker 3: They could use you.
Speaker 2: Na hey, that's good business over there.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, I do have a few deal
Speaker 1: set up around town that allow me to do scripted things,
Speaker 1: so we excited about it.
Speaker 3: I do feel like what I appreciated about your YouTube
Speaker 3: show it was Cannon's Class right, Yeah, yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like you were doing like a lot of dope, like
Speaker 3: necessary interviews conversations, and they've kind of gone away.
Speaker 2: Well see we launched the Canyons Class again.
Speaker 1: I actually kind of never went away, but now even
Speaker 1: on a bigger level again because now I was doing
Speaker 1: that before. Podcasting was the thing to do and it
Speaker 1: was really part of our college career Leman Howard University.
Speaker 3: Now, I just love the YouTube channel. I remember when
Speaker 3: we were one. Yeah, you had some dope episode.
Speaker 1: We back on that too, We definitely, and you'll start
Speaker 1: seeing that stuff roll back out. It was just I
Speaker 1: had to get I had to get everything a line
Speaker 1: because I do have so many shows that I wanted
Speaker 1: people to recognize and and respect what the content was
Speaker 1: coming from.
Speaker 3: Okay, your schedule on December twenty fifth every year? What
Speaker 3: are we doing?
Speaker 2: I'm saint nick baby?
Speaker 3: Are we bringing everyone to the same crib?
Speaker 2: I think I always said I was saying this.
Speaker 1: I think that only benefits me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because then everybody has to come to me, And I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty selfish.
Speaker 3: Kids, you got twenty four hours in a day on Christmas.
Speaker 3: Just the half Latino ones get Christmas Eve because that's
Speaker 3: their day.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what they're to your point, you're joking,
Speaker 1: that's the truth, because Abby and her kids.
Speaker 2: Bag they celebrate Christmas on the twenty four See you
Speaker 2: know how this works? Like, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: No. To be honest, though, it is really about I
Speaker 1: mean not just it just happened, even agetting with Easter.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you don't you don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: to operate based off of the social construct that everybody
Speaker 1: else is subscribed to. So we make sure that we
Speaker 1: celebrate Christmas however long we want to celebrate Christmas. I
Speaker 1: mean not that late, but I mean like it's a
Speaker 1: it's could be the twenty second. Yeah, you know, they
Speaker 1: always wonder how Santa Claus can deliver all those presents
Speaker 1: to still get home to Missus Clauses by the morning.
Speaker 1: So it's we move around and I'm I'm festive like that.
Speaker 1: As much as holidays, the pagan holidays don't matter to me.
Speaker 1: I love what it does for children, So I'm always
Speaker 1: dressing up. And Chris, it ain't Christmas Day, It's Christmas week,
Speaker 1: you know in my house a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be a week. Yeah, like we're.
Speaker 2: Throwing Easter egg hunts all week long when it's Easter time.
Speaker 3: I mean, all the moms and kids live in Cali.
Speaker 3: Besides Mariah, she lives in Cali too. Oy. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean she got property every.
Speaker 2: Special, but that's usually it is.
Speaker 1: You know, we got we got houses on the and
Speaker 1: the west coast, so we everybody's.
Speaker 3: The newer children are all in Cali.
Speaker 1: U currently, I tell you, I got calabasses on lot.
Speaker 1: You just canabasas cannon basses.
Speaker 3: Everyone's over there.
Speaker 2: Everybody's over there.
Speaker 3: That ralps got it. Mom's got to be running into
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 2: Ralphs and shit, we lit, we tear, we tear, the commons. Up.
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Speaker 3: are are your kids mom's friends at all?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: I never like to generalize because or they or are
Speaker 1: they at least cordial friend like they don't like the
Speaker 1: ones who like they? I leave that up to them
Speaker 1: in the narratives in which they share every No, like
Speaker 1: everybody is like nurturing and loving and respectful enough that
Speaker 1: they understand what's going on. So nobody got any problems
Speaker 1: or any negativity. Like we fly on a higher frequency
Speaker 1: than that. So like, but i't, you know, don't expect
Speaker 1: everybody to be hanging out together.
Speaker 3: But it's like, listen, I'm just trying to figure because
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of these cults are coldon cult
Speaker 3: Netflix documentaries recently.
Speaker 2: Are the cannon cults?
Speaker 1: Is the cannon cults of thing you must wear a
Speaker 1: turbine and bears a term seven.
Speaker 3: Let's have at least one base.
Speaker 2: To operate against the Circadian clock.
Speaker 1: Nah Man, I think it's it's just I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: I'm probably just more open and honest about my very
Speaker 1: very transparent about I think look at look at you know,
Speaker 1: everybody from the Bob Marley's to the Muhammad A. L's
Speaker 1: to the you know, Quincy Joneses of the world. All
Speaker 1: of these great men have are fathers of many and right.
Speaker 3: But I do think what you did was you did
Speaker 3: it all at once.
Speaker 2: Hey man, the clock is ticket.
Speaker 3: It felt like it was so crazy because like, we
Speaker 3: do a nationally syndicated radio show every day and I
Speaker 3: couldn't talk about you on the show because our biggest
Speaker 3: affiliate was Real ninety two three power six.
Speaker 2: And did they literally tell you don't talk about it.
Speaker 3: I just you know, just shoutut to doc. I ain't
Speaker 3: fucking with doctors. Of course he is.
Speaker 2: But our kids was playing together when we competition, so
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: Be crazy because me and James would be like, fuck,
Speaker 3: Nick's having another. I felt like every six weeks there
Speaker 3: was just a new I think it's it's it's you know,
Speaker 3: because all the kids are going to be pretty.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be an interesting upbringing. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure there will be some challenges, but I think
Speaker 1: there'll be some beautiful things.
Speaker 3: Come Gradua. Put them all in the same school.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I mean, in the same area. It all depends,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know, even some
Speaker 1: of my kids right now, at home school. So it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll figure all of that stuff, but what what will
Speaker 1: school be in ten years? If you want to be
Speaker 1: honest with it, you know, based off of the way
Speaker 1: the world is going. So I think, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of my kids right now are active in extracurricular
Speaker 1: activities and sports and stuff, so that probably might become
Speaker 1: challenging to where you know, they're definitely going to try
Speaker 1: to make a certain simular games on certain days now,
Speaker 1: you know, baseball, basketball, and track overlap, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So even sometimes they can't even make it
Speaker 1: to their own games. So it's like it's always going
Speaker 1: to be something.
Speaker 3: I've only been married once tomorrow, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, only will be married once. It's only going to
Speaker 2: happen once.
Speaker 3: So when all this starts first happening, right, does Mariah
Speaker 3: call you be like what the fuck are you doing? Broh?
Speaker 1: Not really we have that type of like type of conversation,
Speaker 1: but she's a little bit more understanding. She's kind of
Speaker 1: be like, I see you out there making waves, Like
Speaker 1: she kind of comes from it more from that perspective.
Speaker 1: But there was no I think only sometimes maybe when
Speaker 1: things in the media get misconstrued or people make up
Speaker 1: stuff like you.
Speaker 3: Got to clear it up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got, we got We talk every day, so
Speaker 1: it be like yo, like it was some wild ship
Speaker 1: of like saying that we were having like a custody
Speaker 1: battle or something. I saw that, and it's like I
Speaker 1: was like, we just was at dinner yesterday. You ain't
Speaker 1: telling me, you know. But it's like once we kind
Speaker 1: of do away with all the rumors, because people do
Speaker 1: like to start rumors and operating that low frequency, but
Speaker 1: we all we all be on the same phase.
Speaker 3: Do you still have the tattoo? Did you cover it up?
Speaker 2: I added to it. Shall we say it's my whole?
Speaker 2: That was my only tattoo at one time? Now I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember I was like this this guy's outside, Yeah
Speaker 3: he got the whole.
Speaker 1: Mariah Carriers damn right, our game I or nothing that
Speaker 1: she gave by Ryan Carrey was.
Speaker 3: My as a small child. She was like my first crush.
Speaker 3: So when I saw it, I was like shot out
Speaker 3: to Nick man it was Brian Jlo And actually my
Speaker 3: boy ended up being with Jlo Casper. Smart.
Speaker 2: Look at these young tin cools out here in these.
Speaker 3: Street getting it together. Man. How I want to talk
Speaker 3: about because I don't feel like you get enough credit
Speaker 3: in terms of your ear for talent on the music side.
Speaker 3: A girl like Kailani somebody who was signed with you initially,
Speaker 3: her was signed when she was eleven to you too
Speaker 3: incredible you have like a.
Speaker 1: Now she went in Oscars and Grammys and stuff, shouts
Speaker 1: out the young Gabby.
Speaker 3: Yeah. How like for you? Like, why do you think
Speaker 3: you get enough credit?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: When it comes to the music shit? Because I feel
Speaker 3: like I think I feel like people obviously listen, you've
Speaker 3: put out some dope records, but I also feel like
Speaker 3: people don't really take you serious as an as an
Speaker 3: artist ever tried to push it well also because I
Speaker 3: feel like we just see you as.
Speaker 1: Doing so many things, and like I came up in
Speaker 1: a time where you couldn't do more than one thing,
Speaker 1: so I had your pick and choose. So I chose,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, comedy and movies and shit, but
Speaker 1: so you couldn't do both when I was young.
Speaker 2: But what's dope is that I was a DJ and.
Speaker 1: A producer, like all through high school, so I didn't
Speaker 1: really I never wanted to be in front of the camera.
Speaker 1: So throughout my career I've written and produced records that
Speaker 1: I got platinum records all day long. But it's just
Speaker 1: like I never was like, this is me looking and
Speaker 1: paying attention to me even when it came to the
Speaker 1: artistry stuff. I never was really on that. So what
Speaker 1: I've done now, just because obviously the spotlight is hot,
Speaker 1: I created a new show for BT called Future Superstars
Speaker 1: and it's a tour as well.
Speaker 3: So so you just were on tour with us, all
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 1: So the fact that now the television show will show
Speaker 1: that journey. They will show you know, me as a
Speaker 1: music man and show me in the space of talent
Speaker 1: discovery or show me me as a producer and all
Speaker 1: of that type of stuff. So I'm excited about that
Speaker 1: that wave of my career because it.
Speaker 2: Has I haven't talked about it.
Speaker 1: It has been the afterthought a lot of times, even
Speaker 1: though I've been doing you know, I make all the
Speaker 1: music on wild'n Out, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I it's a I'm a musician's musician. So that's where
Speaker 1: like the fact that you know I could play drums, piano, guitar,
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, I've never really been like, oh well,
Speaker 1: look out, well I rhyme these words together.
Speaker 2: Shouts out to everybody who does that.
Speaker 1: But that was never like my main focus because I
Speaker 1: was more about creating movements and creating opportunities. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad now that I get the opportunity to kind of
Speaker 1: take that side of my career.
Speaker 3: Seriously, when you have like someone like her, you sign
Speaker 3: her as a kid, sign her as a kid or Kaylanie?
Speaker 3: Was she signed you before she was eighteen? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was right before she finished high school.
Speaker 3: What was the name of the group that went on
Speaker 3: tour with Tech nine psych Woord Druggies that kid passed away?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan ba address is soul Man.
Speaker 3: That was my man, super But do you like, like
Speaker 3: you let them out of their deals that the deals
Speaker 3: run their course.
Speaker 1: I'm not even one of them dudes, Like everybody else
Speaker 1: around me wants me to be one of those dudes,
Speaker 1: Like take the credited sign on it, you need your
Speaker 1: logo on it. I'm like, look, give me the credit
Speaker 1: when you want to give me the credit.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's cool, Like I'm a handshake type
Speaker 1: of person. I don't want nothing from you except to
Speaker 1: see you win. So that's a rare thing in this game.
Speaker 1: But it's like I always tell the artists that I
Speaker 1: rock with, Look, I'm gonna be rich whether you make
Speaker 1: it or not.
Speaker 2: Like, so I don't need like those ideas.
Speaker 1: It is like I don't need anything from you, Like
Speaker 1: I'm cool help you out.
Speaker 2: So all I want to let me help you. I'll
Speaker 2: give you advice and see how you run.
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously a lot of people think that
Speaker 1: you know, I should, I should be taking percentages and
Speaker 1: doing all of that. So usually I only ask for
Speaker 1: you know, ask back for the money that I put
Speaker 1: in if you're if you're stable enough to do that.
Speaker 2: But I don't even ask.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, these major labels still owe me,
Speaker 1: owe me checks for you know, the artists that I
Speaker 1: kindly just gave them. So but I just I did
Speaker 1: that because I wanted to see those artists when and
Speaker 1: didn't want them to get into a deal in debt.
Speaker 2: So I can always step away.
Speaker 1: But you know those big record execs, you know, you
Speaker 1: know who you owe.
Speaker 3: You some money?
Speaker 1: Absolutely yes for her, and I mean if they look
Speaker 1: up the paperwork. But I mean I'm good with all
Speaker 1: of those people just based off of the But I definitely,
Speaker 1: like I said, I never wanted anything from them, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I always wanted them to succeed, And even the arrangements
Speaker 1: that we made with various management and various record labels,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'll be I'll step back now
Speaker 1: that I know they're in good hands. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: off to the next thing, because I really don't want
Speaker 1: anything from anybody. But when those major systems who make
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars off.
Speaker 3: Of these artists, like, yeah, let me get my investment back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, at least give me the money that
Speaker 1: I spent to bring them to you.
Speaker 2: So, you know, but again I ain't that's small paper count.
Speaker 3: Was there anyone who you almost signed that it got
Speaker 3: right to the finish line? But for whatever, Yeah, a couple.
Speaker 2: Of people like Becky G.
Speaker 1: I remember Becky g early on, you know she was
Speaker 1: she was like a little fourteen year old girl rapping.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so many people.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I used to run Teen Island at death,
Speaker 1: jam l A. Reed put me a charge of all
Speaker 1: of the teen acts and you know, obviously the it was.
Speaker 1: It was a cool roster. It was a group I
Speaker 1: created called the school Girls. Artist named Aaron Fresh, who
Speaker 1: was super dope, and we had an arsenal of artists
Speaker 1: and I was making I was putting them all in.
Speaker 1: The Gabby was a part of that as well. We
Speaker 1: put them all on in these Nickelodeon movies that we
Speaker 1: were making. And the first the star at the time
Speaker 1: and the one that obviously the biggest act on Teen
Speaker 1: Island he just was bubbling up the internet was this
Speaker 1: young kid named Justin Bieber who.
Speaker 2: The rest is history.
Speaker 1: Really, the whole Teen Island budget just folded then went
Speaker 1: into Beaver's career and it's the Justin Bieber that we
Speaker 1: know to this day.
Speaker 3: So was that prior to him linking with Usher It
Speaker 3: was during.
Speaker 1: The same time, same time that feel like it was,
Speaker 1: like I said, te he got the deal in the building,
Speaker 1: but as you you know.
Speaker 3: They upstreamed him quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like.
Speaker 1: I think the Nickelodeon movie that we put on, it
Speaker 1: was Justin's first thing ever on television, so in the
Speaker 1: first movie and stuff that he had ever did, because
Speaker 1: before then he was just this dope little kid from
Speaker 1: YouTube that they were about to put out a record
Speaker 1: and all that, and so I was like, yo, he
Speaker 1: about to go and then he he he went.
Speaker 3: He went, can you give for people who are watching
Speaker 3: this who want to get involved in making original content,
Speaker 3: or maybe they want to try to figure out how
Speaker 3: to get an idea they have for a TV show
Speaker 3: going or something like that, but maybe they might not
Speaker 3: necessarily have the relationships, the resources, whatever it is, what
Speaker 3: would be some advice you would give them?
Speaker 1: Don't stop, I mean to think about like everybody and
Speaker 1: do all of this literally from their phone. That's even
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I'm excited about launching a
Speaker 1: daily canning because it's like it's literally from your phone
Speaker 1: if need be, Like the fact you can make millions
Speaker 1: of dollars from your phone, so there's no more excuses.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I used to have to shoot
Speaker 1: pilots and rent cameras and stay all of that stuff
Speaker 1: to just to get my ideas out. Now you can
Speaker 1: do the same level of content from your phone. Like
Speaker 1: if you listen to DC Young Fly story man he
Speaker 1: was he didn't even have a phone. He had to
Speaker 1: steal somebody's phone and make the content to you know,
Speaker 1: now do is a millionaire in a household name, So
Speaker 1: it's like there are no excuses. You could do it
Speaker 1: from the trap you could do it from your projects.
Speaker 3: You could get you know, the homie WATSOI Kwan. He's like, dude,
Speaker 3: I do everything on my phone. Everything you see is
Speaker 3: edited on my iPhone. These are the two apps I use.
Speaker 3: There's no excuse.
Speaker 2: You know that was somebody you know, I saw his movement.
Speaker 1: We gave him opportunity on wild'n Out, So it's like
Speaker 1: there's no excuses out there. Talk about the new radio
Speaker 1: show Daily Canning. Man, it's a new platform. It's on
Speaker 1: a Yeah Yeah, yeah so, which is owned by Amazon,
Speaker 1: so we over there cooking.
Speaker 2: But it's like it's beauty.
Speaker 1: It's reinventing radio and kind of bringing social media and
Speaker 1: podcasting all into the same form. So it's dope because
Speaker 1: in the same way, like I'm always I remember when
Speaker 1: Twitter first popped off, I remember when TikTok was musically
Speaker 1: I was in there, and like, I feel like, I
Speaker 1: feel like the same buzz is going on now with
Speaker 1: these ideas of like community and we've seen it pop
Speaker 1: with Clubhouse, but I feel like AMP is even taken
Speaker 1: to another level because now you're allowed to have your
Speaker 1: own show and your own content and your own brand,
Speaker 1: and they're empowering you like, through the system of Amazon,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's no more talking at people as
Speaker 1: talking with people. So everybody can have a show, everybody
Speaker 1: can have listeners. So that's how we rocking, you know,
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, six am to nine am.
Speaker 3: So you're doing that Monday through Friday, six to nine
Speaker 3: live live, what the fuck? And this is with Abby?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's gonna be on there too. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Abby DJ Abby de la Rossa.
Speaker 3: She's playing music. Yeah, oh so she's playing music your hosting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's part of the show too, but you
Speaker 1: got to have her talk with that rat voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's up, but she she runs it.
Speaker 1: She's the musical director as well, so she's she's getting
Speaker 1: it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Abby for people who don't know, you're
Speaker 3: to your kids she had twins, Yeah yeah, yeah. She
Speaker 3: she been on radio for a long time.
Speaker 2: Started she was a star before before the cannon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like you were like yo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she she's a master in this space. If anything,
Speaker 1: I need her more than she needs me in this space.
Speaker 3: So that's six to nine wilding out. Then the new
Speaker 3: show with Kevin Hart where you're you're pretty much. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like filling a space that has been vacated
Speaker 3: for a very long time. Because back in the day
Speaker 3: we had punked.
Speaker 1: Yeah before that candy camera, uh, celebrity bloopers and practical
Speaker 1: jokes and all that stuff. But now we just did it.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody knows me. And ever since we got money,
Speaker 1: we started playing pranks on each other, right uh, and
Speaker 1: you know that's what rich friends do to each other.
Speaker 1: So we wanted to be like, Yo, we could, we
Speaker 1: should turn this into a TV show and let the
Speaker 1: world in on it, because I mean, we were doing
Speaker 1: it through social media already, but now it's a number
Speaker 1: one show on e Yo.
Speaker 3: You mentioned you being rich. You have all the money.
Speaker 3: You don't leave no money for nobody else.
Speaker 1: Now I'm at this stage my life where I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get everybody else. It's lonely at the top, baby, like,
Speaker 1: I want my friends to be rich too. So that's
Speaker 1: always been the concept. So now I'm at the stage
Speaker 1: it ain't. I don't care about making.
Speaker 2: Money no more.
Speaker 3: I want I want some financial friends. Financial literary literacy
Speaker 3: advice from Nick Cannon, Yes, give me, give me a
Speaker 3: few gems, some tax listen I have lots.
Speaker 1: Of babies, and instead of giving them the money, create
Speaker 1: trust in their name. So by the time the eighteen
Speaker 1: year old their CEOs of their own company and it
Speaker 1: could be whatever the company they want to be.
Speaker 2: And you finance it. So now you birth the business.
Speaker 3: And also, isn't there some sort of like account that
Speaker 3: you can put a certain amount of money in for
Speaker 3: each kid? That's an account, it's a tax ran off
Speaker 3: every year.
Speaker 1: Well that don't fuck with irs. We ain't trying to
Speaker 1: get no tax, right. I give all my money to
Speaker 1: where it's.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be.
Speaker 1: You pay taxes, yeah, absolutely, but no, but see what
Speaker 1: it is. You got to understand you got to have
Speaker 1: your tax money make money. But we'll get into that
Speaker 1: another conversation. But I'll give the government everything they ask for.
Speaker 3: Your tax money make money.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you again, I give the government everything they
Speaker 1: ask for.
Speaker 3: I'm just really I get out of it, like Nick,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, listen, Nick, I'm sarting to do pretty good
Speaker 3: right now. I really just need some advice not to
Speaker 3: pay I.
Speaker 1: Mean honestly that that's don't ever play with the I
Speaker 1: r s oh, I'm not trying to No, fuck that, Okay,
Speaker 1: because that's where they go. You see that the biggest
Speaker 1: gangsters in the world what they imprisoned.
Speaker 3: For tax evasion exactly. So shout out to Wesley Snipe.
Speaker 1: Do not play like give them the money that they
Speaker 1: ask for, but learn how to how to get your
Speaker 1: money and operate and give them everything that they need.
Speaker 1: But there's ways to actually if you're a wise business man,
Speaker 1: you got good business man.
Speaker 3: There's like there's stuff in the tax school you can
Speaker 3: take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see like I make and not to get
Speaker 1: it to like I make so much money that like
Speaker 1: all of that that that concept of oh or tax
Speaker 1: write offs, that's only for when you when you're in
Speaker 1: a certain level, when you make more, when you pay
Speaker 1: more in taxes than most people make in a lifetime.
Speaker 3: Just you always hear how like Jeff Bezos doesn't pay
Speaker 3: taxes stuff.
Speaker 1: But that's actually that Yeah, that's not what they're So
Speaker 1: what they're saying is there's infrastructure set up.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a perfect.
Speaker 1: Example, like and that's it was probably gonna get a
Speaker 1: little too deep. But when you get into like the
Speaker 1: world of like lobbyists, in the world of like even
Speaker 1: nonprofits in that sense, to where there's levels you can
Speaker 1: give an abundant amount of money to things that you
Speaker 1: really care.
Speaker 3: About, and and and that you'd rather do that than
Speaker 3: give it to the I R. S or And that's legal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you can give you can you can have
Speaker 1: charitable philanthropic efforts where you can give hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars.
Speaker 2: Away to education, to childcare too. Uh.
Speaker 3: And you would rather do that than give it to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because and and you're saying that's not you're saying, hey, government,
Speaker 1: let me do what you're doing, right, You know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: It looks like you would rather spend your tax money
Speaker 3: on stuff that you care about exactly. So what lobbyist
Speaker 3: is Nick Cannon? What are we lobbying for? Nick?
Speaker 2: Well? See, that's where you know, I feel.
Speaker 3: Like nobody knows where you are on the political spectacs.
Speaker 2: And that's how it should Yeah, that's how it should be,
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon.
Speaker 3: You're like in a enigma.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I let you know. I'll let them live how
Speaker 2: they want to live.
Speaker 3: Yo. Did you ever regret bringing all the wilding out
Speaker 3: boys into your beef with Eminem?
Speaker 2: No? That was amazing.
Speaker 3: You had you dragged all these guys, and now all
Speaker 3: these toxic mountain dude drinking cargo, short wearing mfs.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, your attention is my currency, baby, keep it going.
Speaker 1: All of those guys are a lot more popular now
Speaker 1: and than they were before they started. And that was
Speaker 1: I mean, that was all again, that was all the media.
Speaker 1: That was just trying to get people to watch Wilding Out.
Speaker 1: You shot a music video for that, Oh, we shot several. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were on the set of Wilding Out. But the
Speaker 1: logos is all in the back.
Speaker 3: Do you think MGK be Eminem in their battle? What?
Speaker 2: What? It depends on beat?
Speaker 3: I think I think he won.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I won.
Speaker 3: I don't agree with I don't. I don't agree.
Speaker 1: If somebody picks a fight but doesn't show up to
Speaker 1: the fight.
Speaker 3: I don't think he would.
Speaker 2: So so who won? How did he win.
Speaker 3: By not responding?
Speaker 2: He did respond? First of all, I responded to him.
Speaker 3: He start talking ship first.
Speaker 2: He was on Fat Joe's record talking all.
Speaker 1: How many years and see, but that's the thing everybody thinks.
Speaker 2: I don't I love Eminem. He started sucking with me
Speaker 2: and then right off like a little bitch like so you.
Speaker 3: Think his Eminem didn't reply to your record.
Speaker 2: He did not know he started. He started making records
Speaker 2: about me.
Speaker 3: Said on the Fat Joe record, He's.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, something like a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I went on. I was like,
Speaker 1: why are you fucking with me? Like and I know,
Speaker 1: like for it was some shit. He says he's gonna
Speaker 1: cut my dick off of some weird ship like that,
Speaker 1: like and I was like.
Speaker 2: Huh, like that was years ago.
Speaker 3: So then you replied.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, let's have some fun. And
Speaker 1: I had a great fucking time. He got sug on
Speaker 1: the record.
Speaker 3: It was he was licked shooting on the song. It's
Speaker 3: from jam he made the record just called in like
Speaker 3: fucking back in the day, who was that rapper from
Speaker 3: Sacramento X rated?
Speaker 1: No, but I think it was off of Sport. I
Speaker 1: mean I love him, I mean I love I mean
Speaker 1: even so.
Speaker 3: You think you won the battle absolutely like we're talking
Speaker 3: for the sport.
Speaker 2: He didn't respond.
Speaker 3: I don't think he needed to.
Speaker 2: He started it.
Speaker 1: See you wanted you wanted the mother Mountain do motherfuckers
Speaker 1: on Twitter was the greatest.
Speaker 3: While I'm sitting here drinking a fucking energy drink, one.
Speaker 2: Of those guys. I didn't. First of all, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I would love it if.
Speaker 1: I mean he responded with a tweet and all that,
Speaker 1: because that became the narrative. Because if you remember how
Speaker 1: the narrative, I smashed him over the head, people like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: this ship is hot. Then I gotta look. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I smashed him over the head. Then I came again
Speaker 1: and they were like, that's when I brought you know,
Speaker 1: the Black Squad and all the battle Rappers.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, this is a little too much.
Speaker 2: They're beating them now, you guys are bullying him.
Speaker 1: That was the thing. And then and then when I
Speaker 1: did no, that's what they said. They said we were
Speaker 1: bullying him. He was like, it's three on one. You
Speaker 1: had to go get.
Speaker 3: Battle rap what I said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Then the third time I started bringing race into it.
Speaker 1: Now that's why I went too far. I should have
Speaker 1: Then it just looked like I was I did too much.
Speaker 1: I should have stopped at the second record.
Speaker 3: You should have put Benzino on a song. I was, hey,
Speaker 3: that was that everlast just pulled all his fucking.
Speaker 2: But we all know Eminem is the goat and like
Speaker 2: he's one of them. Yeah, he can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely, you know, top five. But I think
Speaker 1: Drake is coming for a spot though, Like that's that's s.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's an argument you made Drake, because it's
Speaker 3: all about numbers, Drake might have passed him and them.
Speaker 2: So then him might not have a fifth spot.
Speaker 1: Eminem is a better rapper, though, what is what is
Speaker 1: your definition of better?
Speaker 2: I mean Eminem is.
Speaker 3: A better word smith. Lyrics, he's better.
Speaker 1: I don't all about lyricist, well, I mean we've definitely
Speaker 1: we've heard lower and storyteller.
Speaker 3: We have heard Drake reference tracks.
Speaker 1: But see, I don't want to get into that, because
Speaker 1: Drake is a better songmaker than the majority of the industry.
Speaker 3: One million percent. Drake will wipe his ass with Eminem
Speaker 3: as a songmaker.
Speaker 1: But if we're talking about bar for bar, punchline and lyricism,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Drake wordplay even because only thing
Speaker 1: about because word prey is difficult because wordplay has to
Speaker 1: do with flow and Eminem is the king of flow.
Speaker 3: You think Drake bar for bar is better than Eminem? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What was he that? Life?
Speaker 1: Strictly if you're if you're because lyrics like Eminem is
Speaker 1: a great storyteller. Might be one of my favorite storytellers
Speaker 1: in hip hop, and that's I got him Cube Biggie
Speaker 1: slick Rick storytelling, and that, to me is probably the
Speaker 1: most difficult part of hip hop. Sure pock as well.
Speaker 1: You know Brenda's got a baby keep your Oh yeah
Speaker 1: it see, I don't whole is a great storytelling. Maybe
Speaker 1: he has a song called Meet the Parents. It's on
Speaker 1: the blueprint too. It's one of the best storytelled records ever.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean just Streets is watching and that
Speaker 1: whole project. But if we're going to guys who can
Speaker 1: tell a fucking story, Eminem is probably number one because
Speaker 1: ain't nobody topping stand, ain't nobody topping. He's good, but
Speaker 1: he's not consistent with It's not like with lyricism now.
Speaker 3: But Nas did a whole story backwards backwards.
Speaker 1: I mean Nas did a whole record as a bullet
Speaker 1: like creativity is out of here. But if we're talking storytellers,
Speaker 1: Eminem is a better storyteller than Drake. But if we're
Speaker 1: going ooh that bar for Barr, Eminem's never said nothing
Speaker 1: bar wise.
Speaker 2: That blew my mind.
Speaker 3: What is he said? Hey, listen, I'm just letting you talk,
Speaker 3: Mom Spaghetti spoken from a man who lost the battle.
Speaker 2: You care.
Speaker 3: I did not lose, and you might not have lost,
Speaker 3: but you didn't win.
Speaker 2: I showed up to the fight, motherfucker. You did show up,
Speaker 2: like but and that's that, you know.
Speaker 1: I was just in Detroit last week with my man Roy,
Speaker 1: So that's it's all.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, listen, that's that's great.
Speaker 1: But I think if we're talking about the sport of it,
Speaker 1: like to me, hip hop is wrestling, I.
Speaker 3: Think MGK won his battle because I think the fact
Speaker 3: we even questioned it again, I think he had a
Speaker 3: better song, yes, and I think like he was actually
Speaker 3: saying shit that people were like kind of thinking, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this guy just wears fucking stupid sweatpants. He's been wearing
Speaker 3: the same Jordan jumpsuit for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: But I think I think.
Speaker 1: MGK made the same mistake that I made, that we
Speaker 1: were probably a little too excited into over zealous that
Speaker 1: we got to battle with the gleamed into it that
Speaker 1: we got to get in the ring with one of
Speaker 1: the best to ever do it right, I'm I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna for I was excited.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, he's paying attention.
Speaker 1: Let's go, We're gonna get so many whild out like,
Speaker 1: because the whole goal was to get attention. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why everyone's on social media. Don't give it fucked up.
Speaker 1: You all sold your souls.
Speaker 3: The all content. You got a fucking Instagram account.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sold your soul to the devil a Instagram.
Speaker 1: Uh. But so we were and the real goal, and
Speaker 1: I mean it was conversations that we're being had behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, like we was trying to get them at
Speaker 1: least to even just give just the step.
Speaker 2: Foot on one of your minions, Sen Royce. No, that's why.
Speaker 2: First of all, Royce is a goat by himself, one
Speaker 2: of the greatest lyrics.
Speaker 3: Hey, there's an argument you made lyrically roices.
Speaker 2: Just it's good. It's eminem. I'm just saying, if not better,
Speaker 2: damn it.
Speaker 1: I said it like like but uh, and I mean
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure m would say the same thing. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why I invested in him and made him
Speaker 1: his partner and put his arm around him. But uh,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, it is what it is, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: we know what it is. We know these marketing machines
Speaker 1: are massive.
Speaker 3: Yo, You're kind of like Switzerland in so many ways.
Speaker 3: I feel like you're cool with so many people. Have
Speaker 3: you tried to ever, like bring people together that are
Speaker 3: having disagreements?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time. But the best in the game
Speaker 1: to do that is Fat Joe. Fat Joe's the one
Speaker 1: that got me and him too. I mean it wasn't beefing,
Speaker 1: but Fat Joe was like because one it started over
Speaker 1: his record and then uh and then he was like, man, come.
Speaker 3: On, y'all, y'all was that on the Lean Back remix?
Speaker 2: Now long ago?
Speaker 3: It was like, what what was doing?
Speaker 2: It was Joe's last album.
Speaker 3: Oh, Eminem is a song that's what started all this ship.
Speaker 2: I was on the station at power and people like
Speaker 2: you heard Eminem. I was like, you mean twenty years ago, there's.
Speaker 3: Like no today, Lord Above. I think I heard it
Speaker 3: one time.
Speaker 2: He brought up all some old ship.
Speaker 3: Damn Eminem. Can't let go? Man, I was, do you
Speaker 3: think he's just sitting at home watching while and out like,
Speaker 3: fuck this monk that's twenty seasons. Fucked this Scott Nah.
Speaker 2: I think at this at this point, I think you know.
Speaker 3: Because what was it all over? Mariah?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I guess that's where he started talking ship. And then
Speaker 1: that's where you know again.
Speaker 3: I always never knew what the fuck actually because he
Speaker 3: would bring up Mariah so much in raps. I was like,
Speaker 3: that was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I think it's a little bizarre. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know he's a.
Speaker 3: Bizarre Yeah shout bizarre from twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna be coming at you. Funk you cav.
Speaker 2: That's why your boot leg.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be give someone. That's what they'd say exactly.
Speaker 2: That's those guys on.
Speaker 3: Twitter that I know do I see the comments all
Speaker 3: the time. Now, I know why I call you.
Speaker 2: You don't come up with nothing original?
Speaker 3: Who you got in a lot of Nikki battle?
Speaker 1: Oh, nik I gotta ask. I mean I love stir
Speaker 1: it up. That's like I feel, so where if you ask.
Speaker 2: Me Kim or Nicky, I'm gonna go Kim.
Speaker 3: Really, she didn't write her ship.
Speaker 1: Well, you make a good point, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: she's still the only reason I say I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the hierarchy.
Speaker 2: Queen nikis.
Speaker 3: I think Nikki is the female goat.
Speaker 1: She is.
Speaker 2: I think, first of all, that's not disrespect. Nikki is
Speaker 2: a goat. Whether whatever her ginger.
Speaker 3: You know for sure she is one.
Speaker 1: Of the coldest artists in the last decade, like we
Speaker 1: can't sleep on the like her skill, her pen sonically,
Speaker 1: she changed.
Speaker 3: The goats on the on records.
Speaker 1: That's what exactly. When she came with that Monster, that
Speaker 1: was her record and she that was whole Kanye Ross
Speaker 1: like she is whatever, gender aside, sex aside.
Speaker 3: She she's that bit dope.
Speaker 1: She's the only person in that that she could to me,
Speaker 1: that has the same level of talent and that you
Speaker 1: should even we should even be comparing her.
Speaker 2: To is Lauren.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Lauren, those three, that's those, that's
Speaker 1: those kind of I agree.
Speaker 3: Missy to me, probably out of the three we just named,
Speaker 3: has my favorite music. I just think that like when
Speaker 3: over Lauren, well, I mean Lauren went out, Missy got more.
Speaker 3: Well there was the Score and then the mis Education,
Speaker 3: but I just feel like Missy had like a four
Speaker 3: or five album run that was just like Jesus right,
Speaker 3: But those those are the three she was working with,
Speaker 3: timbaland Missy helping right for fucking genuine.
Speaker 1: And everybody everybody that's w V missus, but so Missy
Speaker 1: Nikki as well, as Lauren, who's your overall top five
Speaker 1: all time in no order? I don't make you put
Speaker 1: so difficult. I mean we do this on my show
Speaker 1: all the time. We break it down in categories. That's
Speaker 1: why I was talking like storyteller. But if we're just
Speaker 1: saying overall pack, okay, there's like just the most influential
Speaker 1: person in hip hop to ever do it, then the
Speaker 1: best to ever do it. From the authenticity, I agree.
Speaker 1: Just like I said, we went from influence, uh, then
Speaker 1: we went to uh. Then it gets tricky because there's
Speaker 1: so many other people that could check this box. But
Speaker 1: I need, like, like more the the effect on the
Speaker 1: culture with your lyricism.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's when you.
Speaker 1: Got to give it to the g So that's where
Speaker 1: you got to go in the spaces like the rock hymns,
Speaker 1: the ls, the ice cubes like that's I if I
Speaker 1: they're equal to me. But if I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: go most successful, I'm gonna go cube Q. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so cute. So I go cube as three uh and
Speaker 1: then ship. That's where we get to that sticky point of.
Speaker 3: Well you already said that top five, but that's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying because I'm still I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: my last three and this is six to get me six.
Speaker 1: So it has to be between Kendrick, Drake, and m.
Speaker 3: I love that you put Kendrick in there.
Speaker 2: It has to. I agree with you man like it
Speaker 2: got so but I don't know where those three go.
Speaker 1: That's fair, like can like Drake might cancel out for
Speaker 1: him and put him at six. Kendrick might cancel out
Speaker 1: Drake and put him at like, I don't know where
Speaker 1: those last three gos. Like, well really, because there's only
Speaker 1: two spots left and I got three people.
Speaker 3: I love the it's a good six, so it's a
Speaker 3: respectable six. Yeah, the only person missing is Nas in
Speaker 3: my opinion, See where would he go? Though? And I
Speaker 3: would take Cuba?
Speaker 2: Would what Cube is done for the culture?
Speaker 1: Though? I know CE got bigger record, he's got classics,
Speaker 1: Q got way bigger. If the cub did a versus
Speaker 1: Q wins all day long. I agree he wins the
Speaker 1: versus so and and and really who wins the love?
Speaker 2: Nas?
Speaker 1: But are we talking about is illmatic? No America's KKK.
Speaker 1: We got lethal injection, we.
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Speaker 1: Nah? I mean, Dago is a weird city too, because
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of it's a lot of tension
Speaker 1: between the two communities. Just not not but it's like
Speaker 1: even you know, like you know, my I got you know,
Speaker 1: half of my family is Latino and stuff too, So
Speaker 1: even it's always been loving, respecting that nature. But I
Speaker 1: think because people don't give San Diego to respect that
Speaker 1: it deserves. So the culture is constantly trying to prove
Speaker 1: itself to.
Speaker 3: Itself, almost like prove itself to l A a little.
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm saying, even more like trying to
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Speaker 3: So it's a lot of people trying to tear each
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Speaker 3: Rob Stone and Little Rob. Yeah, Jill Felony was semester.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Bully Loco, shout out to j O Felly.
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Speaker 1: Gonna be have because I know this ship going viral.
Speaker 1: You don't have me say all type of wild ship
Speaker 1: that so, uh, you've got the new TV show level
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Speaker 3: Wars, which is on E Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wild'n Out new season is Erand that's I go against
Speaker 1: myself on my own time slode. You're going Great Wars
Speaker 1: and wild Out on the same time network and they
Speaker 1: are the same owners.
Speaker 2: To no, two different companies. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's NB got that in your contract. Because I'm me,
Speaker 1: funk about all about I'm him.
Speaker 2: No, I'm me. It's a difference. You can beat him.
Speaker 2: I'm me. There's only one me.
Speaker 3: That's when who you're voting for? Joe biden Er, Donald.
Speaker 2: Trump, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Let's go, you're voting for Trump. I don't even vote
Speaker 1: for nothing. I don't believe in this corrupt government system.
Speaker 1: But I fuck with Trump. I like how I like
Speaker 1: how Trump tell everybody kiss his ass.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna go with Trump if it's between the
Speaker 3: old fogie in the old red hair by The only
Speaker 3: thing is.
Speaker 2: Because Trump I like my racism served right to my face.
Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of people say that.
Speaker 2: I don't like people lying to me and then in
Speaker 2: front and.
Speaker 3: It's it's almost like you'd rather have someone tell you
Speaker 3: what they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Do, someone square up, then to punch me in the
Speaker 2: back of my head. M simple is that?
Speaker 1: Because now I got a fair fight, all right, But
Speaker 1: don't don't act like you fuck with me and then
Speaker 1: throw some shit at me like that. So the thing
Speaker 1: about Trump, I know what I know the feel I
Speaker 1: know what I'm playing with. But let's keep it all
Speaker 1: like WB the Boy said this, there's no such thing
Speaker 1: as two parties, just one party with two names. One
Speaker 1: evil party is what WB the Boy.
Speaker 3: Said, Hey, you are somebody who could literally be the
Speaker 3: president of the United States.
Speaker 2: Says that people are saying that I've been trying to
Speaker 2: fuck up on purpose, so they don't.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, you could be the president, bro. But
Speaker 3: one day you could be the You could be the governor.
Speaker 3: You could be the governor of California. You could be
Speaker 3: a senator.
Speaker 1: You could grow your I don't want that job, but
Speaker 1: people have told me that all my life. But like because,
Speaker 1: but it's politics. But if you felt like you gotta
Speaker 1: lie to people for a living, I don't you want
Speaker 1: to be to you.
Speaker 3: Might be able to like be the guy who doesn't
Speaker 3: lie to people for that.
Speaker 1: I think that's what Trump tried to do and everybody
Speaker 1: turned it on them, and now Moucker might go to jail.
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, Like I did too much dirt
Speaker 1: that have to like, I mean, I'd rather spilling I'd
Speaker 1: rather spend all my money and like uh on children
Speaker 1: in other countries and building like I can probably do
Speaker 1: just as much good in the world with just philanthropy
Speaker 1: and humanitarianism, then I could if I because because just
Speaker 1: think about it, politics and especially the presidential campaign, it's
Speaker 1: all about ego. It's not about like, it's about like
Speaker 1: about power, likable. But even until this is like who
Speaker 1: wants to rule the bit? I don't want that job.
Speaker 1: I want to be in charge of war. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be charge of killing people. Like as much
Speaker 1: like I love Barack Obama, but I guarantee you he's
Speaker 1: like yo. If I would have known, I had to
Speaker 1: make some of the decisions, I make sure.
Speaker 3: He has a hard time sleeping the night because I mean,
Speaker 3: he was letting them drones fly right ship, but Rock
Speaker 3: had them drones like, we ain't gonna talk.
Speaker 2: About some of the ship that happened in Africa. I'm like, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 2: that way, hold on, but we ain't gonna get it
Speaker 2: to that. We're going too deep anyway.
Speaker 1: But to say, I don't want I don't want none
Speaker 1: of them problems. So I'd rather spend all my money
Speaker 1: help the world. I'd rather let's do it in your way.
Speaker 1: Let's name some hospitals after me. Let's let's name some library.
Speaker 1: I'll buy all of that ship. I do not want
Speaker 1: to be in the game of politics. Yo.
Speaker 3: I want to see you going to Joe Rogan show.
Speaker 2: I love that's my man. You haven't I haven't done
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan Show, but I'm going to know each other.
Speaker 3: Legendary Joe.
Speaker 2: Fuck with your boy, or have Joe come on my show.
Speaker 2: We got nothing.
Speaker 3: Bring the fucking podcast back. It was so good. Bring
Speaker 3: the same table back.
Speaker 2: All of that's coming, bro. I got you.
Speaker 3: You be on the same page. Nick Cannon, I appreciate
Speaker 3: you all day, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Let's go