1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, living the dream 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: once again here on a fully loaded sports Sunday. This 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are here in the 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios getting ready for one of those days. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: You got the final round of the PGA Golf Championship. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: The leaders Scotti Scheffler is gonna be teen off here 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: in about forty minutes, so we'll keep our eye on 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: the PGA Championship scoreboard. We got a Game seven that's 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna tip off in about an hour and a half 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: between the Nuggets and OKC so VJ. As we sit 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: here on this Sunday, it's always a glorious day. We'll 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: get into the NFL schedule that came out this week. 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: We got the Pete Rose situation getting reinstated for an 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to get into the Hall of Fame down the road. 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: But this is one of those days, especially with the 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: final round of a major, where I like to sort 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: of settle in. You know, you only get four of 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: these every year. If you're a golf fan. You and 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: I are both golf fans. We like to watch these majors, 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: and we saw Scotty Scheffler yesterday he was all up 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: and down, and then all of a sudden, after boging thirteen, 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: that drivable fourteenth hole, not only does he drive it 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: on the green, he basically has a tapping for an eagle, 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: and then he birdies three of the next four holes, 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, oh, that's right. 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: This guy is the number one golfer in the world. 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: And I would imagine we're gonna have a coronation for 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler today. 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that. 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: Man. 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: You know how the last round of these Majors go 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: and you got Nora in at eight hunders three strokes behind. 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: They're both gonna t off T forty. They're in the 34 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: last group together. I just it's not a given. That's 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: just my day. It's not a given. We've seen people 36 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: cough up leads and majors. We've seen guys gaff on 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: five foot putts. We were sitting here watching Rory in 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: the Masters, and you know, before we left he hadn't 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: even I don't think he eat off by the time 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: we got off the air, but he had a chance 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: to milk that thing and put it away, and he 42 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: missed that short put which calls the overtime. 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Yes, oh, and he did win it. 44 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: But we we they ain't have to say we've seen 45 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: this before where a big name number one in the world. 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: If it wasn't Tiger Woods, Oh, whoa whoa two thousand 47 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: and nine Tiger Woods at that point was fourteen for 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: fourteen and. 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: Major's leading going in the final round. 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: He was leading in the final round in the two 51 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: thousand and nine PGA and he lost to ye E Yang. Yeah, 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: wy e Yang dat Tiger and snapped the streak. So 53 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: if ye Yang can do it, who knows? Maybe in 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Alex Norn, Davis Riley j T posts. 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: Right right, these guys I think have a shot. Listen, 56 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: it's Scheffler. If you think about it, he's two bogue's 57 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: away from having a one shot lead. All right, let's 58 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: just he's two buge. He's away from having a one 59 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: shot lead. And that's if Norm's playing park golf. 60 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: Believe John Rahm, do you think ram Is at Saxo 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: was in great position yesterday and then he hit it 62 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: into the water at seventeen for the double row gate Exactly. 63 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: He's about to tee off right now. So those are 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: the two big names you got Ram at six under 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: to Shamble at five under. They're still a long way 66 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: behind the number one. 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but long way depending upon how the number one plays. 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: If I had to pick a name between Riley, you 69 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: got pots in there, and then you have a you 70 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: have Rom, I'd put some money on Rom to be 71 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: a guy to make a run. He's been here before, 72 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: he's one majors. We know about him. He's he's been 73 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: a top player for years. It's not some guy we 74 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: don't know who he is. He's coming out of the 75 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: wood work. This is a no Johnny come lately golfer. 76 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: This guy is a perennial world class golfer. And five 77 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: strokes you would go all come on, vj Hey. But 78 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: like I said, all Scheffler's got to do is gaff 79 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: couple of holes. Say this guy burns a couple of holes. 80 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: And guess what, we're the one to two point. We're 81 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: the one to two stroke lead right there and now 82 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: game on Pressure Major Sunday, knowing nothing else is on 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: other than this game seven. The world's watching. I mean, 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: you know, hard Course down there is Charlotte Man. Hard 85 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: Course is humid, it's hot, it's muggy. All right, let's 86 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: not matters. 87 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question about Scotty Scheffler, who, 88 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: by the way, he has had more consecutive weeks ranked 89 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: number one golfer in the world. 90 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: They started the golf rankings in the mid eighties. 91 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Only one golfer, Tiger Woods, on two different streaks, has 92 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: had more consecutive weeks ranked number one than Scotty Scheffler's 93 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: current streak. Right now, that being said, is there any 94 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: way that Scotty Scheffer, with his personality or non personality, 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: is there any way that he can jump off the 96 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: golf page and actually get people interested in him with 97 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: his dominance? I mean, if he starts rattling off majors, 98 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: will that change the dynamic ever for Scotty Scheffer? You know, 99 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: substances there, but the lack of style. Does that just 100 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: hold him back from ever actually being anything other than 101 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: a hardcore golfer. 102 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'll answer your question by asking a question, 103 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: how many majors does he have? 104 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: Well, he has two to two masters? 105 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: Okay, So he's got two masters, so today could be three, okay, 106 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: so it could be there. So he's got two all right, 107 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: So we can't start. I don't care how many weeks 108 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: you were ranked number one. We see this in college football, 109 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: we see this in college basketball. Even be ranked number one. 110 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: All you want who's standing at the end Tiger was 111 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: on a run run. I am not gonna be the 112 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: guy who is gonna sit here and try to put 113 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: any current golfer on God's green planet, maybe other than 114 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: Charlie who just misqualifying for the US Open last week. 115 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: With the Charlie thing. I love that kid. I love 116 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: that kid. It's not easy to be a Tiger Wood's son, 117 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: but he's not gonna He's never gonna be a professional 118 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: golfer that level. 119 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: Probably not, probably not, but the name is still just 120 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: gonna carry it away. 121 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it's not like the Brownie situation where they can 122 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: draft you. Seeing golf, it's an individual sport where you 123 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: actually have to You gotta make yourself, have somebody pull 124 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: you in and say, oh, you're here. And if Tiger could, 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: I bet he would, but he can't. 126 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: But I'm I'm not gonna put any any walking golfer 127 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: on God's green earth right now, and that's currently playing 128 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: in the category of a Tiger Woods. Do I think 129 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: he can win a couple of You know, do I 130 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: think Scheffler can win a couple of major more? 131 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 132 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: Bro, But you're a long way away from me and Tiger. 133 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: So now I say that just to go against the 134 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: whole you know, number one consecutive week Street. I don't 135 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: care how many majors are you winning, how many attorneys 136 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: are you winning while you're ranked number one, you could 137 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: be righting. 138 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: Serena was ranked number. 139 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: One and she was smashing everybody. Tiger was ranked number one, 140 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: he was smashing everybody. Duke in the nineties of rate 141 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: number one, Carolina unlv you'r UCLA Bruins back in it 142 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: when they're righting of those those type of rate number ones. 143 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: When you're smashing everybody right number one and you're the 144 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: last one standing there holding the trophy, then the rank 145 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: number one mean something to me to be right number 146 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: one and then losing the Elite eight to be right 147 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: number one and gett knocked out in the sweet succeeed. 148 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I agree it is here. Here's the thing. If Scheffler 149 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: were to duplicate the Tiger Slam, like if he were 150 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: to rattle off three or four okay, okay, that all 151 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, start the start the talk. But again, 152 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: if you're if you're going to get to that Rarefy 153 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: era of the Tiger Woods and the and the Michael Jordan's. 154 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: And that you've got to have style, and. 155 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you like a personality, your your your personality, 156 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: guy you want. 157 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't have that. He just doesn't. 158 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't. Remember we were gonna get this with Jordan'speth, 159 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: Remember we were gonna get this with Sergio Garcia. 160 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: I can name them all. 161 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: Day one of the greatest seasons of all he did. 162 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: He got a Jordan deal out of it, signed the 163 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: Jordan deal the day the morning after he won. 164 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: The Mass and he was twenty one at the time. 165 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: And it looked like he was at that point. 166 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: At that point he I remember on the air, I 167 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: was like, don't look down. This guy actually is ahead 168 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: of where Tiger was at the same point. 169 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I heard. And then all of a sudden, 170 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: it's like, because man, it's hard. That's why greatness is greatness. 171 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: That's why I hate the fact that we disrespect passed 172 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: greatness for what we see today. Do you know how 173 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: hard it is to win six NBA Championships, five NBA championships. 174 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Just five majors. 175 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: How about five, Let's just start at five. We can't 176 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: even get the double digit you got with five. He 177 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: got Brooks, Koepka with five, and Michelson has six. Yeah, exactly, 178 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: So those that's it, Trevino six. You know, that's still 179 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: a rarefied air. But it's hard to do. It's ridiculous. 180 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Its hard to do. Let's just think about this seventeen 181 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: you have. 182 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I know they have the PGA professionals, twenty of those 183 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: in this PGA field, we got ninety eight of the 184 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: top one hundred golfers in the world in this field, 185 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty six golfers. One guy wins. 186 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: What right? What right? 187 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: What? 188 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: They all get a paycheck though, well they do. 189 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: They all get it cut, all right. So, by the way, 190 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: we are definitely going to get into what's going on 191 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: with the NBA plays. We got Game seven coming up 192 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: today between the Nuggets and the OKC Thunder. We'll get 193 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: into a little more depth in this game VJA a 194 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: little bit later on as we get ready for tip off, 195 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: which is coming up in about an hour and twenty minutes. 196 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: But just a little overview as I sit here right 197 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: now looking at this matchup, well, there is there's a 198 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: little element that has been sort of talked about, at 199 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: least by me, and some other people are picking up 200 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: on this. Why hasn't the NBA announced the MVP award 201 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: so normally? Normally the way this works is the NBA, 202 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: first of all, I think they do with themselves a 203 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: disservice and Baseball. They announced all the regular season awards 204 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: after the World Series, like they come out in November 205 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: and like, oh yeah, I forgot about that. 206 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, right. 207 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: But then the NBA they actually started announcing the winners 208 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: during the playoffs. But the last two years, the NBA's 209 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: MVP was announced on May eighth, and the year before 210 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: May second. Let's check the calendar May eighteen, and I'm 211 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, look, we know Shay Gildess Alexander is 212 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: going to be the MVP. Why did they not announce 213 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: it before Game five? It was a two two series, 214 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: it was a home game for OKC. It's a nice 215 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: situation where he gets recognized by the home fans, doesn't 216 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: have a huge. 217 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: Bear in series because it's two to two. 218 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: Now we got a Game seven and it's like, are 219 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: they going to announce a game seven. Imagine this Sceinnario 220 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: two scenarios. Before the game tonight or this afternoon, they 221 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: announced Shay Gilders as the MVP, and he got Denver 222 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: over there on the other side, like we need any 223 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: more motivation. We're probably gonna be down a man here, 224 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: but you know, our guys. 225 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: The MVP there are gonna be down, but he's out. 226 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: If Dever wins today, then you missed an opportunity to 227 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: honor Shay Gilsis Alexander in front of his home fans. 228 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: I don't care nothing about that. I actually like the 229 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: way this is setting up. Really, yes, I do. Whoever 230 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: wins this game today is the MVP in my book, 231 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: Whoever wins this game. If Yo Kic, if Nicola Nicola Jokic, 232 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: Joker goes in here in the game seven down a 233 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: very integral part. It looks like Gordon's not gonna play 234 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: all right. He's got a Grade two hamstring springt that 235 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: that's hard to come back, that's hard to try to 236 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: get out there and play with. Yes, he's not expecting, 237 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: not expects to play. If he goes out and has 238 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: forty nineteen and eleven and they pull off for one 239 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: point dumb. Sorry SGA, Sorry, bro, Like, we gotta stop 240 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: this idea that I like the awards to be a 241 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: complete year award. I'm tired of this. It's a regular 242 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: season award, which is true. Okay, but that doesn't mean 243 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: you can't change it. You're changing everything else. Why not 244 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: change that. No, we'll get out the award because that's 245 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: not that's not right then, because if you like, let's say, okay, 246 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: see got knocked out in the first round, is as 247 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: J stood the MVP? I'm asking is he is he stod. 248 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Yes, because it's a regular season award. You got four 249 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: team sports, all of them have regular season awards and 250 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: guess what they have postseason awards. You could make the 251 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: argument what's more valuable on your resume in the NFL 252 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: being a regular season MVP or being a Super Bowl MVP. 253 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Same thing with the NBA Finals, like we had Chauncey 254 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: Billups got in the Hall of Fame. He was an 255 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: NBA Finals MVP, right, big shot. That's why he got 256 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. He's got that on his resume. 257 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: You know, people have been making an argument about Iguodala 258 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: down the road. He's got four rings but he was 259 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: a finals MVP. Okay, But the point is is that 260 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: you start doing that. No. I the the problem for 261 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: the NBA is they should do what Major League Baseball does. 262 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Don't announce the awards during the playoffs. Wait until the 263 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: playoffs are over, and then you can go back and say, 264 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: all right, here was the regular season honorees for all 265 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: the awards. When you do it during the playoffs, we 266 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: had the awkward situation when Dirk Novinsky was named as 267 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: the MVP. As they go down belly up in the 268 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs to an inferior Golden State 269 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: team when they won sixty seven games, You're. 270 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: Like, how did he get MVP? 271 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: This team sucks? 272 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: Exactly. That's my whole point. I'll throw this at you too. 273 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: How do we judge players at the end of the day? 274 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: Guys like you and I have seen her and get 275 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: paid the duce. How do we judge players at the 276 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: end of the day. We don't judge players by their 277 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: regular season performances. We'll use those numbers for arguments that 278 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, when all the chips 279 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: was pushed to the middle of the table and all 280 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: the money was down and there were no more cards 281 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: to draw, and everybody had to flip their cards over. 282 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: That is how we talk and judge about sports all 283 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: day long, so that should be included. And you being 284 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: it's like, I may Shack has one m v P 285 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: one one, but Shaq was dominant, Kobe had one one one, 286 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: Barkley got one. 287 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Thing here here's a I don't On the other side, 288 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: I want to follow up on sure. Also, well, we'll 289 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: have much more on these NBA, but we got to 290 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: get into the end of the Celtics season. I hate 291 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: the Celtics. By the way, the next time the VJ 292 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: says you want to bet, you want to bet, I 293 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: might take him up. You could You could have had 294 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: a free unch, you said you could have as soon. 295 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: As I picked the Knicks to beat the Celtics. 296 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: And I only did that because olden polonies convinced me 297 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: they were going to win. Your immediate response, ses, you 298 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: want to bet. 299 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have had a free burger from I 300 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: had a little orange Fantasota. 301 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: All right, we'll finish up with that and get in 302 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: on the Celtics future. You know, the devastating injury Jason Tatum. 303 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: How does that add of an effect on. 304 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: What they're gonna do next. 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So those are 318 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: the two big names that are still within started breathing 319 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: distance of the top. The rest of them are are 320 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: Journeyman now the Tony Fenales also there, you know a 321 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: little bit. Although he's never won a major, but Scotti 322 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: Scheffler should have a coronation today, but he could blow it. 323 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: We've seen it before again. If Whye Yang can overtake 324 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, at the PGA as he did in two 325 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Believe me, anything is possible, all right, PJ. 326 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: We've been talking about this MVP award and your insistence 327 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: that it would be a far more valid award if 328 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: it were announced after all the games were played. And 329 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: as I said, I don't have a problem with the 330 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: separation of the awards. You can weigh what is more important, 331 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: and I would agree with you. When we look back 332 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: on players career, whatever the sport is, you're more apt 333 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: to think about what they did in the postseason than 334 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: anything they did in the regular season, which is why, 335 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: of course they do have separate postseason awards. And then 336 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: it just comes down to what value do you place 337 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: on those awards. But here's the other thing. So when 338 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: Kobe was with the Lakers, and Kobe, Kobe was very 339 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: conscious of awards that he won and everything else. And 340 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: by the way, I thought that was honest. I always 341 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: the one to go, I don't really care about awards. 342 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: Get out of here. Of course you do. You're fighting 343 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,239 Speaker 1: to be recognized as the best. Thing. If we're rewarded, 344 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: it's acknowledgement that you are recognized by your as one 345 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: of the best But when you talk about someone's resume 346 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: in a team sport, then they talk about MVP awards 347 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: or All League or All Stars and all this, and 348 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: then they get hand, I won five rings. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, 349 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: whoa whoa. That's not an individual honor. That's a team honor. 350 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: In other words, that's not when you're rattling off your 351 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: resume and you say, well, I won six championships or 352 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: I won fit. No, you didn't. 353 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: You were part of five championship teams. And this is 354 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: why when I like to. 355 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Separate the individual awards from the regular season as opposed 356 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: to the postseason. The postseason in a team sport is 357 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: still a team effort. You could be the best player 358 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: and get a Finals MVP or something along that. But 359 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: I do not equate team success and put it on 360 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: the same page as individual honors. To me, they're completely separate. 361 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant did not win five NBA championships. Kobe Bryant 362 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: was a member of five NBA championship teams. 363 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I disagree. Oh really, yeah, yeah, 364 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: I disagree with that because you're using him as the example. 365 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: So are you saying, Michael Jordan is not a six 366 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 3: time finals AV. He was time champion. He's part of 367 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: the team. 368 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: He is a He was a member of six m 369 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: championship teams. Robert Ory was a member of seven NBA 370 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: championship teams. 371 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and Robert Rorry got lucky and just blessed, 372 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: very blessed in his career. 373 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: He had no contribution to those teams. 374 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: They had contribution, but they didn't win those rings because 375 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: of Robert Ry. And they didn't lose the years they 376 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: had Robert What about the years that Robert Ry was 377 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 3: on teams, but then they didn't win championship. 378 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: But that's a team accomplishment. 379 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: I remember sitting there one time in studio with Michael Thompson, 380 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: my former co host. He won two rings as a 381 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: player as a member of the Lakers, and we had 382 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson in studio who never won a Super Bowl ring. 383 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson was in the studio with his super with 384 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame ring. 385 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 2: Okay, and and uh, you know I brought it up. 386 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: I said, well, what my let me ask you this, 387 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: would you trade your championship rings for that Hall of 388 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: Fame ring? And he goes not in a heart beat, 389 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: and then I asked Garrett Geric, would you trade that 390 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: ring for a super Bowl ring? He goes, not in 391 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: a heart beat. You know, it's not my fault that 392 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: we didn't have a quarterback. Was it my fault that 393 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: I was on team capable of beating the forty nine ers? 394 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: You know? 395 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: But I was able to achieve individual success. 396 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot fewer of these Hall of Fame rings 397 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: than there are super Bowl rings that they pass out 398 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: dime a dozen. 399 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: But I think that's just what he's gonna say, because 400 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: he doesn't have the super Bowl ring, and no one's 401 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: gonna trade in what they already have. 402 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Do you think Charles Barkley would trade all his individual 403 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: accolades for one championship ring? Really? You don't think he said, gee, 404 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been nice if I had Scottie Pippin 405 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: on my team. 406 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 3: No, if Charles Barkley can trade in that nineteen ninety 407 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: four I believe it is a ninety three MVP for 408 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 3: one championship for one. 409 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: Who was He was the MVP that year, and you 410 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: have to say this, he was more valuable to that 411 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: Phoenix team's success than Jordan was for the Bull. 412 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: He didn't have a batman, he had no it was 413 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 3: Marlee Oliver Miller, Ri Dumas, Frankie Johnson. 414 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: Isn't the argument we can make this? I remember we 415 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: could make the argument every year that you know, Jordan 416 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: should have been the MV because he was the most 417 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: valuable player in the league, the greatest player in that 418 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: season that was I believe Phoenix won like sixty two 419 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: by yea and yeah they at home court. Okay, who 420 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: was more valuable to their team in terms of taking 421 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: them off that team and the team's success. Was it 422 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: Charles Barcleave of Phoenix or was it Michael Jordan with 423 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: the Bulls. 424 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: Well, if you take either one on them of if 425 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: they're not winning at all, that's number one. So I 426 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: don't care who gets further because I know the argument 427 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: is sometimes well, when Jordan left, Scottie Pipps still got 428 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: to I think the second roard of Easy Carmons. I 429 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: was like, okay, and because he didn't have Jordan, where 430 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: didn't he get to He didn't get to the finals. 431 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: But when he had Jordan, where did he get He 432 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: got to the finals six times and won on six lines. 433 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: So think Jordan was pretty dark important. I just think 434 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: that if when you every player says I got magic. 435 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: Johnson when he was going back and forth with Anthony 436 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: Edwards said, hey, man, listen, I don't I don't even 437 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: respond to people if you ain't never won a championship. 438 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: I won five. He didn't say we won five, he said, 439 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: I every magic. 440 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: Johnson would have won those five championships without Kareem Abdul Jabbar. 441 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: No, but you you great player. Great players need great player. Well, 442 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: Kareem won one without him. He had big oh, but 443 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: he won one without him. Nobody else had big oh. 444 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah he had big oh. Great players need other really 445 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: good or great players. It's very rarely can you get 446 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: a guy that doesn't have a twenty point score and 447 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: his team win a championship to make him. 448 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: My point of why when we talk about individual accolades, 449 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: championships and team sports should not be on the list. 450 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: Because you're part of a team. 451 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: Part of a team, but you're you are the reason why. 452 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: Kobe's the reason why, Okay, they won championship. Shacks the 453 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: reason why. Jordan's the reason why. You're the reason why do. 454 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: You think that Kobe would have won championships if Phil 455 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Jackson had not been named the coach of the Lakers. 456 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: What's on the first numb or seconds on either one? Well, 457 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: I mean without coach Jackson five of his but without 458 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: Phil Jackson, him and Shock was getting swept. 459 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: They were getting swept with Del Harrika. So that's the 460 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: other point. Now, you got the coach factory, right, but 461 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: the coach teammates, so you can't do It's not an 462 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: individual honor. So do the coach. Can the coach say 463 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: I won? Or does he have to say, well, that's 464 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: the only thing he has on its resume as a coach, right? Yeah, 465 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: the only thing you could go by with a coach 466 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: is how many games you win, how many championships? Right? 467 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: So why can't it be like that for the players 468 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: to just because you got on the teammates out there's 469 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: not It's not Kobe or Jordan of these great players 470 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: fault that the NBA doctor Natesmith put five players on 471 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: the court. He could have made it a one on 472 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: one game, but he didn't. He made it five. So 473 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: you gotta have a you gotta have a dog. You 474 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: gotta have a big dog. You gotta have a SuperStar's 475 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: you even have a shot eighteen sport. 476 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: It's not like golf. It's not like that's where you're 477 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: out there by yourself and you can take one hundred 478 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: percent credit when you win. 479 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: The only sport I will I will put that to 480 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: is baseball, because you can have like a dominant pitcher. Right, 481 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: you can have Randy Johnson, you can have Roger Clemens, 482 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 3: you can have Nolan Ryan, and you have a mayor 483 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: out of Rovere. Right that the greatest closer, Dennis Extra Lead, 484 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Trevor haff Me and these closers. But kind of need 485 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: a really good shortstop, might might need a really good 486 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: center fielder. Might want to have a really good left 487 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: fielder with a strong arm. Might want to have a 488 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: really good leadoff guy. I could get on and those 489 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: on the bus like, that's the only sport I would go. 490 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: You can't go, well, the Yankees. The Yankees quarterbacks, the quarterback. 491 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: You don't have a quarterback. You don't have a shot. 492 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: You have had great quarterbacks who put up prolific numbers 493 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: and they have no defense. 494 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: But that's rare. That's Dan Dan Fouts with the Chargers 495 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: back in the day. Eric Corey Rolling was really good. 496 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 3: I don't know if I ever called Dan Felts a great. 497 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: Quarter rush the record book three years in a row. 498 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: I get it with Air Corrio. 499 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: It was the number one offense that we had ever 500 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: seen at that point. 501 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: Mike mean, Daniel did that say. 502 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Right exactly when you're losing gains forty four to thirty 503 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: seven and you're like, well, you're a loser, Like I 504 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: was a loser. I threw four touchdown back. 505 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: For the most part, I mean super Bowl winners, there 506 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: have been like fifty eight, fifty nine, right, like fifty okay, 507 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: Dann Marino, I would say, because forty eight, I would 508 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: say at least forty five of those Super Bowls are 509 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: because of the quarterback that was on those starts. 510 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: But here's the there, and people like you take quarterback 511 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: and you ask great quarterbacks, who is the best quarterback? 512 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: You know what most guys say, Dan Marino, Dan Marino, 513 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: man hero super Bowl. We played it in seventeen years. 514 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: Lost to the Niners. 515 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: Never had a running game, defenses were inconsistent, never had 516 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: a thousand year rush. Actual Hall of Fame quarterbacks, who 517 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: is the best you've seen? And they'll say Dann Marino. 518 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: But that's an anomaly. That's one guy out of fifty nine. 519 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: That's one guy out of fifty nine super Bowls. Like, 520 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: for the most part, there's a Mahomes, there's a Brady, 521 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 3: there's an l Way, there's an Akman, there's a Peyton, 522 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: there's a far I mean, come on, I just named 523 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: like twenty five of the winners right there super Bowls. 524 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: Right there, you were Dilferd. There's a Nick Foles. 525 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: Right there, there's a Brad Johnson. But once again, there's 526 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: been fifty nine winners, right my favorite forty five. I'm 527 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 3: curious forty five of them were won by great quarterback. 528 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: My fatherite is dilfer because Dilferd is he only got 529 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl and get released and get. 530 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: Released by his team after winning the Super Bowl because 531 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 2: he was. 532 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: Got release pretty quick. He was he was just a 533 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: stopcat guy in the playoffs and there he got released 534 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. 535 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: In anybody, I don't want to use anybody, Chris but 536 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: not anybody, but anybody at quarterback that was competent and 537 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: just didn't turn the ball over was gonna win with 538 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: that Ravens defense. We've heard, We've heard Ray We've heard 539 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: Ray Lewis say it we've heard ed Ree said, they 540 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: said they used to go to him and say, look, yeah, difference, 541 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: give us thirteen points. How how many you to a quarterback? 542 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: Give me thirteen points and will win today. 543 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: Let me ask this if Matt's like, because you bring 544 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 5: up Dan Marino and you bring up a lot of 545 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: guys talk about how Dan Marino is their favorite quarterback 546 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: for guys to play the league. That was for a 547 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 5: lot of guys in this past generation. Matthew Stafford. Now, 548 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 5: if Matthew Stafford hadn't won a ring with the Rams, 549 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 5: suddenly like that's I think this is talking to. 550 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: Every year record Stafford put up a lot of numbers. 551 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: Because I'm not saying that he doesn't have great throwing ability, 552 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: because he does, but he biled up a lot of 553 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: numbers in garbage time. Let's face it with your team 554 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: when your team is losing all the time. And yeah, 555 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: he also had Megatron, but Joe Montana didn't have Jerry Rice. 556 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: Not for the first dude, he's that argument and what's 557 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: he got? What's what's he had? All these years? 558 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, Reggie did anyone predict that Reggie Wayne and 559 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison were going to be stars. 560 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: You know, made him stars. It's the same thing about 561 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I'll give you that, you know, and Matt 562 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: Stafford made a star out of Megatron. Yeah. About the 563 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: fact that Tom Brady remade Randy Moss as a star 564 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: after he disappeared in Oakland for two years and completely 565 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: fall off the mount. 566 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: He didn't remake Randy. Randy. 567 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: We know, Randy still have to have a quarterback to 568 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: put the ball in your hands. 569 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't remake Randy. Randy just took a year 570 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: and a half off. He didn't Randy because Randy just 571 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: shut the. 572 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Face of receiver. If you don't have a quarterback that 573 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: can at least throw the ball in your vicinity, that 574 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: was the problem for Randy with the Raiders. 575 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now. 576 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: We're on fire early. I feel like, are you going 577 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: to race this show today? Manzi? 578 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 6: Hello? 579 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: Are you today? 580 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 4: Oh? 581 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, just Dandy, So you're decked out with your 582 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Dodger cat. 583 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: They can't beat the lowly Angels. Who the hell's going on? 584 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 6: You really can't. But here's the thing. 585 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 7: Everybody wants to bring their best a game when it 586 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 7: comes to playing the Dodgers, of course, and it's baseball. 587 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 6: It's baseball. 588 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: All I know is this. I'm watching the Dodge. I 589 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: was at the game Friday night, and then yesterday. This 590 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: was an Angel team that came into this Freeway Series, 591 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: as they call it, with the lowest batting average in 592 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: the league two fourteen doctors had the number one at 593 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: two seventy two. 594 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: And it was like batting practice yesterday Kershaw, you know. 595 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 6: But it's okay. 596 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 7: We were just excited to have Kershaw back. Well, you 597 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 7: and it's early in the season. The Angels were gonna 598 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 7: win some games eventually. It's eventually, you know. 599 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 6: I'm just happen to be against us down the freeway. 600 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 6: It's okay, Yes, So I'm. 601 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 7: Wearing a LA hat to see if I can inspire 602 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 7: them to not get swept. 603 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 604 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 6: That would be good. But we'll start in baseball. 605 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 7: You know, Raphael Devers doesn't want to play any position, 606 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: not first base. 607 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 6: Not outfield. 608 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 7: He doesn't want to do anything. He just wants to 609 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 7: designate hit. And you know what, he's not doing too shabby. 610 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 7: He actually is it a Grand Slam today already for 611 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 7: the Red Sox. 612 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 6: But they are tied against the Braves. It's four to 613 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 6: four bottom of the fourth inning. 614 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 7: About to start all Rangers so far VJ against the 615 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 7: Astros three zero, bottom of the sixth. 616 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 6: In me there the Nationals are shutting out the Orioles. 617 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: Who Orioles? What happened from last year to this? 618 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: Last two years? 619 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 7: Good? 620 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: Last two years? 621 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: Team win team And I saw, I said, whoa yeah 622 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 3: were they? 623 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: And they and the idea was this young nucleus of 624 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: potential superstars and the others set for the future. 625 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: No, and you don't. 626 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 6: Know they just man, what baseball has he just said? 627 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 3: Right? 628 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 7: Year to year year year National seven zero against the 629 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 7: Orioles in Baltimore. 630 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 6: In fact, CJ. Abrams has already homeered twice in this one. 631 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 7: The Tigers have a two to one lead over the 632 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 7: Blue Jays bottom of the fourth inning. Raise up on 633 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 7: the Marlins one zero bottom of the third and the 634 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 7: Cubs on the scoreboard. First against the White Sox. It's 635 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 7: one zero, the Pirates and the Phillies are scoreless top 636 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 7: of the fifth inning. But baseball Today's suspended Phillies closer 637 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 7: Ho said about ill eighty games without pay after he 638 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 7: tested positive for. 639 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 6: A performance enhancing substance. 640 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 7: Alorado would also be ineligible for the postseason should the 641 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 7: Phillies make it. 642 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: They said that he got this, they Dombrowski, the g 643 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: on there, that he got it from a diet product. 644 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 6: Sure he did, Sure he did. 645 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 7: In the NBA Game seven of the Western Conference semi 646 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 7: Finals from Oklahoma City between the Thunder and Denver tipop 647 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 7: is at three thirty easterns, about an hour away. This morning, 648 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 7: ESPN reported that Aaron Gordon denver Ford was gonna need 649 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 7: several weeks to recover from his left hamstring string, making 650 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 7: it physically improbable for him to play today. 651 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: The latest reports, according to David Adelman, is that if 652 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 6: he can go, he's gonna go. 653 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 7: That's who he is. Real toughness there. It's very tough. 654 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 7: He can get hurt in the way. But apparently they're 655 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 7: gonna see how he does in pregame warm up. 656 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 6: But if he can go, Aaron is gonna go. Is 657 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 6: the latest. 658 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 7: There is another Game seven today, but it's on the ice. 659 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 7: Panthers will be taking on the maple leaves with the 660 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 7: puck set to drop at seven thirty eastern. And yes, 661 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 7: Scottie Scheffler caught fire yesterday at the PGA Championship. 662 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 6: He is set to tee off soon. 663 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 7: He's at the top of the leaderboard, three shots ahead 664 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 7: of everybody else, but he is eleven under part over all, 665 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 7: back to you, guys, we. 666 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Ever win another cup? The last cup the least one 667 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven was the last year of the 668 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: original six, and ever since expansion, the Maple Leafs have 669 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: been looking for another cup. 670 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 6: Maybe this is a year. 671 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Maybe, Monxi. If you're airing and you go today. 672 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 6: You know that's a really hard decision to say. 673 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: You win, and you handre it even more Now you're 674 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: out the Western Conference finals just for one game. 675 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: The question to me is can you help him? 676 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Are you injured to the point where you're actually hurting 677 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: your team and not helping you. 678 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: You know, sports line, you're either hurt or injured. If 679 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: you're hurt, you can play. If you're injury, you're injured, 680 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: you can't. 681 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 6: But you know, hamstrings are so tricky. 682 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 7: So it's like, I have knock on, would I have 683 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 7: never dealt with a hamstring injury? 684 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: Well, imagine playing basketball with a hamstring, right, I don't know, 685 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: because I feel like with all the other injuries you play, right, 686 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: But this is the one where it's like, do you 687 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: is it worth it? You know, he wants to He's 688 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: a champion, part of a championship. 689 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 6: I see, I see. 690 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 7: If there's even a small percentage that he can laying 691 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 7: it doesn't make it a lot worse. 692 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna play well again, can he help the team? 693 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 6: Can here? 694 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: Is he healthy enough to help the team. If he is, 695 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: then he will definitely play. All right, Mounzi, thank you 696 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: very much once again, Hartman and Husky here Fox Sports Sunday. 697 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: We're in the Fox Sports radio studios. Oh okay. Now, 698 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: by the way, just so I was watching here, Scotti 699 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: Scheffler should be teeing off here in a couple of minutes. 700 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: So the only guys making a move right now are 701 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: guys like Harris English and Ben Griffin. So John Rahm 702 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: and bryceon de Shamba not making a move so far 703 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: up that leader board. All right. So again, when we're 704 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: talking about team's success versus individual success, and this all 705 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: gets back to I think the NBA would serve itself 706 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: well if they were to do what baseball does and 707 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: that give out the awards after the season. All right, 708 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: So I want to switch gears here and start in 709 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: on a subject we're definitely gonna get into, and that 710 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: is the fall of the Boston Celts. 711 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, just real fast on the team versus 712 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: individual because it just my mind. I just wrote it down. 713 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: So if you don't want players saying I want championships, 714 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: that you have to eliminate the Hall of Fame, then 715 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: why is that? 716 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: Because you're calling it all team? 717 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: Then so now teams for certain year like like like 718 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: like the like the eighty three Niners, not the eighty three. 719 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: The whole First, it's in a hall, no no, no, no, no, Right, 720 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the Hall of Fame, you are 721 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: gauged on your individual honors, whether it was MVP Awards, 722 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: All League Awards, or All Star Games. That's your ticket 723 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: of championships to a lot of those championships in the Hall. 724 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: Well, but a lot of them don't have championships. 725 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: I wonder what that number is. I would love to 726 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: see what I will say though. 727 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: And hockey is the worst on this with its Hall 728 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: of Fame, but it's very prevalent in the basketball Hall 729 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: of Fame as well, where you are a member of 730 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: a lot of championship teams. You're like the fourth, fifth, 731 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: sixth best player on that team, but because you have 732 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of chance. They do this with the Hockey 733 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame constantly, like they put like almost every 734 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: Edmonton oiler from the eighties, you know, Like I mean, 735 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: come on, if I were in charge of all hall 736 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: of Fames, which I should be, if I were in 737 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: charge of all sports hall of Fames, I would I 738 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: would be like Doge, I would get rid of excess, 739 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: like real quick, I'm sorry, I'm taking this plaque down, 740 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm removing this bus. You are not a Hall of Famer. 741 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: When you set the bar like the Baseball Hall of Fame, 742 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: the first five guys, Ty cow Babe, Ruth Hanutspider, Christy 743 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: Mathews and Walter Johnson. That is like a Mount Rushmore. Okay, 744 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: when you start lowering the bar, you know, a couple 745 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: of years later they put Nap lash Away and Willie Keith, 746 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how how much further down are we 747 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: gonna lower this bar? I've said this about Hall of Fame. 748 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: If I give you a name and I say, is 749 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: he a Hall of Famer? And you paused for a thought, 750 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: He's not a Hall of Fame it's got to be. 751 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: It's got be absolutely, you know Manning, Yes, and you'd say, okay, 752 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: how about Eli Manning? 753 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: Yes, no, oh we disagree, but yes, Matt Matthew Stafford. 754 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: You you put. 755 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning and Eli Manning on the same level. 756 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: I didn't put him on the same level. I'm putting 757 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: Eli Manning in the Hall of Fame. Why because Eli Mannly. 758 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Dan Marino was the Eli Manning. Joe Montana 759 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: was he Brett Farr. 760 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: But what he was, what he was was very consistent. 761 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: That's not available. And then he's in the Hall of 762 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: the very put put up, put up some good numbers 763 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: in his career and then beat the Goat twice head 764 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: to head in the Super Bowl. Let me ask you 765 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: you to the Hall of Fame in my book, wouldn't you. 766 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: Say that if you're a Hall of Famer, at some 767 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: point of your career, you had to be the best 768 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: at your position. At some point you had to be 769 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: acknowledged when you played that you were the best. 770 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't disagree with that, but that's not 771 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 3: the criteria. 772 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know it's not right. 773 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: I would agree with that, but that's not the criteria. 774 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: We go anymore. 775 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: If I were, there would be there would be maybe 776 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen quarterbacks total in the Hall of Fame, 777 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: maybe Auto Ram, Sammy Baugh, maybe go old timers, SI, 778 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: Johnny and das Uh. 779 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: You play Tony Jerkison in. No, okay, I'm just asking. 780 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: Just Terry Bradshaw. No, Bradshaw doesn't get in now, Terry 781 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 3: brow topic. 782 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: He was a he was a passenger on a luxury liner. 783 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yes, Nolan Swan, No, John Stalworth, No, Terry Bradshaw. 784 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: Franco gets in. He's the only guy in the offense. 785 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: Joe Green is their number one. You've got Lambert jack 786 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: Ham yet. 787 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: Ye in blunt, Okay, that's it. 788 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: Wow. No, Terry Brandt, Mike Webster, no way, Gray Mansfield place. 789 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to and more into this. Yes, 790 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: just getting started here. Once we got a Game seven 791 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: in the NBA tipping off in forty five minutes. This 792 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Sunday. 793 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 794 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 795 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 796 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 4: listen live. 797 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: Harbin and Husky Here. Fox Sports Sunday, We're in the 798 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports radio studios having a great time as always, 799 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: and Scotti Scheffler is off and running seeing if he 800 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: can secure his third major championship. He's won a couple 801 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: of Masters, and now he's a three shot lead going 802 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: into the final round of this year's Masters, So we'll 803 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: see how this all plays out for him. By the way, 804 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: John Rahm, who's even on the day, has already snuck 805 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: into a tie for third. To show you the Davis 806 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: Riley and JT posting these guys up on the leaderboard, 807 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: they both bogie the first hole, so you know those 808 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: guys aren't going anywhere today. 809 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: So my beef with Scotti Scheffler is honestly man like 810 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: you said, he's got the two Masters, right, yeah, but 811 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: why can't you win a US Open? Why can't you 812 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: win an Open, a British Open. 813 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 5: Way? 814 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: Why can't you like? 815 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, cool, okay. 816 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: Well, here's a little fact for you. The same course 817 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: every year, as far as the Golf Hall of Fame 818 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: is concern every golfer except for two guys back in 819 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century that won Open championships at a time 820 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: that obviously no one cares. Every single golfer that has 821 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: won at least three majors three is in the Hall 822 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: of Fame. 823 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: Three is the cut. There's a lot of guys with 824 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: two that are not in the Hall of Fame. 825 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: But if you win three, Now, the guys that are 826 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: not eligible yet would be Rory McElroy, Brooks Koepka. 827 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: Jordan Speith. Those are the guys currently not eligible. 828 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: You have to be forty five years of age to 829 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: be eligible for the golf Phil's already in Tiger z 830 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: Oory and all those guys. But that if again, Scottie 831 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: Scheffler wins this. Uh, for instance, Podrog Harrington, he won 832 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: three majors and he's in the Hall of Fame. Do 833 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: you lay three is the cut? I think it does. 834 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: It's a it's I mean, you could raise a bar 835 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: even more. Yeah we again. Okay, now you're getting back 836 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: to what we were talking about about the Hall of Fame. 837 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, you want to put Eli Manny in the 838 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: same class with Brett Favre and Dan Marino and Johnny 839 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: Nightis and Joe Montegna. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, 840 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: Well let me just because my thing about Eli Manny 841 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: is he put Eli Manning in, then why isn't Jim Plunkett. 842 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: Is okay, all right, But this is why Eli man 843 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 3: is shavin because I was just looking this stuff of 844 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: doing commercial rate. Number eleven in yards, number eleven in touchdowns, 845 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 3: sixty percent completion percent is now sixty percent completion percent 846 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: is so let's remember that, which is. 847 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Really low in the rider, right right right, But but no, 848 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: we can't do that. We can't do modern age. 849 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: We get these are just the numbers that is higher 850 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 3: than John Elway Hall of Famer, Stallback Hall of Famer, 851 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: Commal Hall of Famer, compared Dan Fouts Hall of Famer, 852 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: Bar Star Hall of Famer, France Tarkets and Hall of Famer. 853 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: He was a guy who's number eleven in yards, number 854 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 3: eleven in touchdown passes, it has, it has a higher. 855 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's ahead of him in all those categories. Anyone 856 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: who's in the award Matt Ryan's Hall of Famer. How 857 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: how are you gonna put Matthew Stafford in. 858 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 3: The Hall of Fame, not Matt Ryan. I'm sorry, Matthew 859 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 3: Stafford to me is a Hall of Famer. 860 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan has better numbers than Eli Manning. 861 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: In his career, I got it. Doesn't have that? 862 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: What though, well, what about Philip Rivers. 863 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 3: Doesn't have that? 864 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: What I love? 865 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: I love Philip Phil. 866 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: Seven Pro Bowls, like I know. Wait to say, Eli 867 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: Manning four Pro Bowls and never do legit and. 868 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 3: But never led his team to Super Bowl Sunday. 869 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: That's gonna matter. You don't believe the Giants defense was 870 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: most responsible for those two wins against the Patriots. 871 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: To make a play, but it's the facts. Play back, 872 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: start the facts of this. See I'm a tape guy, 873 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 3: being a high school football coach. I'm a tape guy. 874 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: Put the tape on. 875 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Okay, in the moment when the moment was there for Eli, 876 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: what did he do? And they say, what he did? 877 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: Hit me a dump? 878 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: And he did it. You know what he did. 879 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 2: He didn't screw it up. That's what he does. 880 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: Eli Manning gets credit for not screwing up those two 881 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: games as the the Giants defense found a way to 882 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: shut down Tom Brady. 883 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, listen, guy, listen. The undefeated Patriots team, 884 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 3: yet the defense to front seven. Great job pushing up 885 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: the middle. Tom Brady doesn't like people around his feet. 886 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: We know that. 887 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: But all right. 888 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: Well, on the other side, I'm gonna finally get to 889 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 2: where I want to go. 890 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 1: That's the Boston Celtics. 891 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 3: What is their future? 892 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, all right, 893 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: rolling along here on a big Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Sunday. 894 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: We are once again in the Fox Sports Radio studio. 895 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler. Bogie's the first hole, but so did Alex 896 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: Norin who's playing with him in that final pairing. So 897 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: right now it's still a three shot lead with Scheffler 898 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: as they head to the second hole. John Ram part 899 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: of the first two holes, so he's crept within four 900 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: of the league. So we'll keep you updated on the 901 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: PGA scoreboard. And of course, coming up here in about 902 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: a half an hour, tip off Game seven between the 903 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: Nuggets and the OKC Thunder. Good game, all right, I 904 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: want to get away from the hall for a second. Okay, Now, 905 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: it was a few week weeks ago where I got 906 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: a lot of heat talking about Jason Tatum and how 907 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: boring he is, and you know, then he goes down 908 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: with the Achilles and that's horrific. 909 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: I hate to see that. It was obvious. I don't 910 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: know what they were delaying that he had some kind 911 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 2: of leggings where I'm. 912 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: Like, dude, you saw his achilles bop, it's over, and 913 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: now you got a Celtic team, and look at all admission. 914 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: I hate the Celtics. I have hated that the Celtics 915 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: my entire lifetime. Okay, So watching the Celtics lose, especially 916 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: as they pretty much mailed in that last game getting 917 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: blown off the court by the Knicks, I mean, where 918 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: was the fight none? 919 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 3: Where does the hate Celtic ha come from? Just really 920 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: really Lakers? Okay, okay, all right? 921 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: Our first NBA Finals literally I watched. I was in 922 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: fifth grade. It was the first year of Wilt sixty 923 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: eight sixty nine season. Jerry West was my hero fifty 924 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: three in the first game Lakers. The Lakers won the 925 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: first two games at the Forum, they go back to 926 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: Boston Guard and Sam Jones hit a game, win a 927 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: game for it. Then they go back to so the Home. 928 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: He won the first six games with game seven is 929 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: at the Forum and Bill Russell won that game and 930 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 1: of course announced his retirement after the game, and from 931 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: that point on, I hate hisself. That being said, this 932 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: is going to be a very difficult offseason for the 933 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: Celtics because let's start with the obvious one. Exactly is 934 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum going to come back? And is he going 935 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: to come back? The bottom line is is when we 936 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: talk about Achilles injuries, the only exception to the rule 937 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: was Dominic Wilkins. He's the only guy who suffered an 938 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: Achilles tear and was able to come back on a 939 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: level as good, if not better than he was before 940 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: the injury almost everybody else. We started with the Clippers, right, well, 941 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: he came back with the Clippers, but even even before 942 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: that with the Hawks, you know he had had that injury, 943 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: he came back and he was at least temporarily as 944 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: good everybody else. So not only are you dealing with 945 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: the timetable which is very uncertain on one exact Tatum, 946 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 1: is he going to sit out all the next year? 947 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean? And if he does come back, how good 948 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: is he going to be? And then you've got cap 949 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: implications up the Ying Yang right now for the Celtics. 950 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: So you know, this is going to be a very 951 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: tough off season for Brad Stevens in company to try 952 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: to figure this out. Like you do, you say goodbye 953 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: to persingas are you going to start? You know? And 954 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people said going into this postseason, 955 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: this is the last time you're going to see this 956 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: Celtic team. So let's talk about the Tatum situation first here, 957 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: because look, this is not a knock on Jason Tatum 958 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: the player. This is what I call and look at 959 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: the look at his last game. Look, I mean he 960 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: was unbelievable right over forty points. I mean, the guy's 961 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: a great, great player. What I what we talked about before, 962 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: We talk about a Scotty Scheffler. Why is Scotty Scheffler 963 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: never going to jump off the page even if he 964 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: has a dominant game because he doesn't have the personality. 965 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: Same thing with Jason Tatum. 966 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: He doesn't have any personality. 967 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: He's just like this straight arrow guy. 968 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: He goes out, he puts up big numbers, he's a 969 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: legit all star, he's a legit franchise player. But his 970 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: personality doesn't transcend the sport and that's what holds him back. 971 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: So what do you do right now? For you're the Celtics? 972 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: Do you do you game plan the idea that Tatum 973 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: eventually will be the Jason Tatum. We saw before the injury, all. 974 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 3: Right, Number one, Jayson Tatum's out all next year. Yes, 975 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: he's not gonna play the next season. Guys, it would 976 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 3: make very little sense. I mean, hell, Kyrie might be 977 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 3: out all next year, and he tore his achilles before 978 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 3: the before. I mean it's a cl before the season, 979 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 3: before the playoffs. 980 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: Tart Now doctors could be we have to admit, Like again, 981 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: medica is a totally different things. It used to be, 982 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: like knee injuries used to end careers and they don't anymore. 983 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 3: But I talked to him at the last Laker game. 984 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 3: Now was that I talked to Kyri over the last 985 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,959 Speaker 3: Laker games out He's walking, but you could just still 986 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 3: see it's a ginger walk. He didn't have crutches, he'd 987 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 3: have a brace or anything on. He's at the game 988 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: sitting court side with one of the former Laker assistant coaches, 989 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 3: and had a chance to talk to him. How's the name, 990 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be hard, I'm and that's all. That's all 991 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 3: he would get me, And that's fine. But I think 992 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 3: he he would even be pushing to come back next year. 993 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 3: But Tatum's done. I got a real hot take on 994 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics right now. And that's because I'm a 995 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 3: guy that always says, I don't care who you are, 996 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: what players you got. Championship windows close very very fast. 997 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's crazy to see the Chiefs so 998 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 3: good right this long, the Patriots so good that long, 999 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 3: the Lakers, the Spurs, gods that ladies, gentlemen, boys, and girth. 1000 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 3: That happens very rarely, very richly. Look at look at 1001 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Bucks, they won a championship. Look at the 1002 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 3: different Nuggets, they won a championship. They can't even get 1003 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 3: out the second round the following year. Boston now makes 1004 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 3: it seven straight NBA champions that were eliminated in the 1005 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: second round the following year. We're almost to a decade. 1006 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 3: We can't even get the team to get back to 1007 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 3: the finals, let her know, just even a conference finals. 1008 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 3: So I think Boston's window is completely closed. They had 1009 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: their shot, they got the two finals, they lost the 1010 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 3: two to one lead against the Warriors, but then they 1011 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 3: finally cashed in. But this stuff weighs on your body. 1012 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 3: It weighs on you mentally. These guys just played in 1013 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 3: the Olympics and you didn't get any time off, you 1014 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 3: come back, you're down against the Knicks. It was a 1015 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 3: lot on this man, and that's how that thing pops 1016 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 3: that easy, just taking a step. And I just think 1017 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 3: this team is gonna look completely different now. You hear 1018 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 3: about the slight maniscus tear and Jalen Brown Porzingis is 1019 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 3: doing this close out interview and he's like, my body 1020 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 3: just doesn't feel this and feels weird and this and that, 1021 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: and like, we don't know where this team's going. I'm 1022 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 3: on record right now as saying it was fun wild 1023 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 3: last And now that's not to say they're gonna win 1024 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 3: twenty games next year, But the Boston Celtics championship window 1025 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: is officially closed. That means getting to the finals, ladies 1026 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 3: and gentlemen, That means having a legitimate shot to win 1027 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 3: a championship. Can they win fifty something games next year? 1028 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 3: People will tweet me and go, oh, I thought their 1029 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 3: window was closed, VJ. It is. They'll win some games guys, well, 1030 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: but their championship window is officially closed. All right. 1031 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: So here is no team right now on paper is 1032 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna get a bigger leap in team salary, team payroll 1033 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: than the Celtics. The difference is Jason Tatum. He's got 1034 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar increase in pay next year for 1035 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: a year that he probably won't play. So he's on 1036 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 1: the books for fifty four million next year, free money. 1037 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,720 Speaker 1: He's got three more years after that, guaranteed money. Jalen Brown. 1038 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,959 Speaker 1: These guys are signed lock solid, fully guaranteed deals through 1039 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: the twenty eight twenty nine season. So now you look 1040 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, Persingus is an obvious He's 1041 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: got one year left on his deal, thirty million, try 1042 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: to move. Who's gonna take per single moneywy games? Did? 1043 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 2: He played forty games this year? 1044 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: But you know how he's a broken down guy and 1045 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna put thirty million on your payroll. 1046 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: You've worked in pro sports front offices next to owners. 1047 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 3: You know how this thing goes. 1048 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 1: You'll need firing contract. 1049 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 3: You only need one GM to think we can use that. 1050 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 3: I'll give you a team right now. You don't think Dallas, 1051 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 3: and that's where he was. But you don't think Dallas 1052 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: might look at this and say, you know what, man, Well, 1053 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see. He's got something. I think right now, 1054 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 3: it's some equilibrium. It's some mental things. 1055 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 7: All right. 1056 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot going on for Zingis. But if you're Boston, 1057 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 3: I might try to move him. Somebody might take an 1058 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: inspiring contract that's trying to reload and reset their franchise. 1059 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 8: All right. 1060 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: Another guy in the Celtics gonna get a bump and 1061 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: pay is Derek White. I have no problem with that. 1062 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: Ca you's sending that twenty eight million next year, thirty 1063 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: thirty two, so he's not going anywhere. No Drew Holiday. 1064 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: So Drew Holliday has two more guarantees thirty two million 1065 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: next year, thirty four million the next, so he's under contract, 1066 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,479 Speaker 1: got a player option for twenty seven to twenty eight. 1067 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday, to me, is a movable player. 1068 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got something what you're getting for him though, 1069 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 3: that's that's that's the thing. 1070 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 1: He's a movable player. If I were them, I'm looking 1071 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: for a big because Persingis is out of here, so 1072 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 1: I need a big. 1073 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 3: Can I throw a name, a superstar name at you? 1074 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 3: Do you call Phoenix to see what they want to 1075 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: do with Kevin Durant if you're Boston, and and then 1076 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 3: then you can add a Porzingis expiring contract. Remember two 1077 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 3: weeks Ago. I thought that we taught the JP mah JP. 1078 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 3: I said, hey, there's a team out west that needs 1079 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 3: the reset. It's not working. You got to reset that 1080 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 3: whole thing. I would like the Pistons to call about Booker. 1081 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 3: He's from Michigan. He's a Michigan guy. Kevin Durant's not 1082 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 3: gonna want to be there by himself. Right, Well, here's 1083 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 3: the thing, so they got to break that thing up. 1084 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: But if you're Boston, well, yeah, here's what you're looking at. 1085 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: But you're looking at this if you get Durant, he's 1086 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: on expiring contract, but you but you're. 1087 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 3: Just trying to You might just want to get him 1088 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 3: just for you don't want to fall off the map. 1089 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: If you're Boston, you don't want to fall off. 1090 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 3: No Jason Tat What did they look like without Jason Tatum? 1091 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,760 Speaker 1: What did that team look like when the court without 1092 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: Jason Tata? 1093 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 8: If it? 1094 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: First of all, the one game five I thought they 1095 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: showed up for that game five a TV. Right right 1096 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: after that game, I was gonna craw like, how valuable 1097 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: him is? 1098 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum? As good as they blew out the Knicks 1099 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 2: late in a. 1100 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 3: Game, the Knicks have been up and down all postseason though, right, 1101 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 3: the Nicks have been up and down as they lost 1102 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: two games in. 1103 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: So you're you're okay again where you're you're making the 1104 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: argument here that Boston's time is ended, right, but you're 1105 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: now saying it's worth to somehow take on Kevin Durant 1106 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: with an expiring deal first shot to be relevant, because 1107 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: if you have no Tatum and you have, let's be 1108 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: generous and aging Kevin Durant, who could not even get 1109 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: his team into the playing round. 1110 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 3: There was a lot going on in Phoenix. There's a 1111 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,479 Speaker 3: lot going on in I'm not putting that on Kevin Durant. 1112 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm not putting that on Kevin Dariens. A 1113 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 3: lot going on in Phoenix. None of those guys stepped 1114 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 3: up and performed. They were all knocked and injured. They 1115 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 3: never played together. It was just it was just a 1116 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 3: felt experiment. 1117 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: Its owner. You had Devin Vail and a great supporting guys. 1118 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: You did stay with that because you want. 1119 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, you know why, because it's the higher seed 1120 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 3: they got there, you know what handed to him by 1121 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets. 1122 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: And that was the reaction. So it was that was 1123 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: a bad loss. Yeah, well yeah, but you threw away 1124 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: everything and then you bring on Kevin Duran and this 1125 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,280 Speaker 1: is remembered. This also, I have to get have without 1126 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,959 Speaker 1: Steph Curry zero, thank you zero. 1127 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 3: I mean Draymond told him we won before you will 1128 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 3: win after you, and then they did. But if you're 1129 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 3: Boston now, I don't want to make it seem like 1130 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 3: a contradicted myself. I think their windows closed. But if 1131 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 3: you telling me that Boston is going to just field 1132 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 3: this exact same team with maybe one edition of a 1133 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 3: role player somebody next year, forty three wins, forty three wins. 1134 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: Yes, JAB because Jameson Taylor maybe. So what about Jalen Brown? 1135 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 3: Come on, he's not never thought he was a one. 1136 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 2: I never thought he was a one Finals MVP. 1137 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 3: I don't care about that, man, Yeah, early do care 1138 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 3: about this, And so is Andre Igodala. 1139 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna put him in the conversation with I'm. 1140 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,879 Speaker 3: Just saying, if you're telling me, well, he won finals MV. Okay, yeah, yeah, 1141 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 3: he won finals. 1142 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: In you think that Jalen Brown is a legit All 1143 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: NBA player, not first team but second and third team 1144 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: All NBA player. 1145 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 3: Okay, well that's a NBA yeah, thirteen, I give him that. 1146 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 3: But Jayson Tatum is first team. 1147 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: He has been. 1148 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 3: Jayson Tatum. There you go, Jayson Tatum is first team. 1149 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll see how it plays out. But 1150 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: that Durant twist, that's an interesting one. He may be boring, 1151 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: but he's one of the top five players. 1152 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 3: In the league. No, no, no, no, Jason Tatum. 1153 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: You think Tatum's one of the top five players in 1154 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: the league, you gotta be. 1155 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 3: If you're NBA first team, just be a name. First 1156 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 3: team means top five players. Okay, who would you rather 1157 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 3: have in your team? Jason Tatum or Luka Doncic, Jayson Tatum, 1158 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 3: Zulka Doncis plays no defense and he can't stay in shape. 1159 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 3: Whoa whoa WHOA champion championship does Luca High? 1160 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: He went head up. He went head up with Jayson 1161 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: Tatum last year. Now you're getting back to individuals win 1162 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 1: team championships. No, they don't. The Celtics had the best 1163 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: team in the East over a five year span and 1164 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: they were able to go away with one championships. Harding 1165 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: eight seats might have. 1166 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 3: Hard to win, it's hard, man, But when you get 1167 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: one that that is for the rest of your life. 1168 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: They can never take it from his education. All right, 1169 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: let's forget about the team out of the playoffs. How 1170 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: about the Knicks. How important would it be for the 1171 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: NBA if the New York Knicks won their first championship 1172 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: since Richard Nixon was president. 1173 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 2: We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve 1174 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 2: Harmin VJ. 1175 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: Husker. Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We are in the Fox 1176 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios. We are nineteen minutes away from tip 1177 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: off between the Nuggets and the Thunder. Game seven winner 1178 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 1: will move on to the Western Conference Finals against the 1179 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves. I find it interesting in how people talk 1180 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: about the Pacers and the Timberwolves, like how did they 1181 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: get there? 1182 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 2: And I'm like, you mean, how did they both get there? 1183 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 1: For the second year in a recond year in a row. 1184 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: These two teams are exactly where they were a year ago. 1185 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: And you know, when we talk about remember before the 1186 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: playoffs began, before they all began, we're all buzzing about 1187 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: Lakers Celtics. Lakers got all the way to it. Three seed. 1188 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: Celtics were like, you know, a walk through in the East. 1189 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: That was the you know, the league is looking forward 1190 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 1: to another Lakers Celtics final, when then we were sort 1191 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: of saying, I'll tell you what they don't want is 1192 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: Cleveland and Oklahoma City, Like that's okay, we're not gonna 1193 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 1: get that, But you know what we could get Indiana Minnesota. 1194 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: You have to say that the Pacers and the tee Wolves. 1195 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: You can actually look at their postseason right Granted, the 1196 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: te Wolves lucked out with Curry being out and everything else, 1197 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: but they're playing the best basketball right now, Beason. And 1198 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: if you thought the potential of a Cleveland Okase Finals 1199 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: would be a nightmare for the league, try Indiana Minnesota. 1200 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: Two franchises with zero combined NBA titles, both in the Midwest, 1201 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: both in smaller markets. I mean, it would be a catastrophe. 1202 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: Which is why the New York Knicks forget this game, 1203 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: gets seven OK seed Denver, it doesn't matter. 1204 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 2: There's only one team that matters right now to the. 1205 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: NBA, and that is the New York Knicks. And I'll 1206 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: say I'll say this again, I'm no New York Knicks 1207 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I know this. 1208 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 2: If you're the NBA, you want the Lakers to be relevant. 1209 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: You want the Celtics to be relevant, and after probably 1210 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: the worst managed team upper managed team over the last 1211 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,439 Speaker 1: two decades, to get the Knicks back to the Promised Land. 1212 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: And if they actually were to walk away with an 1213 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 1: NBA championship led by the great Jalen Brunson, that would. 1214 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 2: Be huge for the NBA. 1215 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: Like it or not. 1216 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 2: A Knicks win in New York would be huge. 1217 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: But the NBA it's not gonna You know why it's 1218 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 3: not gonna happen. 1219 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,479 Speaker 1: Steve, because they did a nicke Obacha. I understand first 1220 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: of all. You know, like Dolan is holy seen up 1221 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: the trophy? 1222 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 3: No, man, no, I don't have nothing to say about him. 1223 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 3: I cost myself a job three years ago. I'm opening 1224 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 3: my mouth about him. I'm not talking about that guy ever. 1225 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:02,479 Speaker 1: Again. 1226 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 3: Listen, if when you really look at this Nikoboca team, 1227 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 3: I used to always have an infatuation with the Knicks. 1228 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm a big Pistons fan, pisses hardcore all my life. 1229 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 3: Kobe was my guys. Here is my guy that That's 1230 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 3: how I rock in basketball. But the Nikoboccus is just 1231 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 3: always a team I always liked because they those had 1232 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 3: guys I like like I was an Allen Houston fan. 1233 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 3: I used to like Spreewell. I used to like Grandmama 1234 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 3: Larry Johnson. I grew up in the DC, Virginia area, 1235 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 3: so I remember when Patrick Ewen was at Georgetown, and 1236 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 3: I used to love Patrick Ewing as a kid. They 1237 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 3: were always a team that didn't hate and I didn't love, 1238 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 3: but when they won, I didn't mind it. Like I 1239 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,479 Speaker 3: went for them against the Bulls when. 1240 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 1: They played the balls. 1241 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 3: Come on starts when he dunked on Horse Grand them 1242 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 3: that night. I remember getting my older brother Dennis mad 1243 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 3: at me because I was cheered so hard for him 1244 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 3: and he Charls Smith, Daniel come on, like all of 1245 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 3: them both, Charwell, Charles Smith if he can actually make 1246 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 3: a lay up right there in Game five, letting Jordan 1247 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 3: and Horace Grant smack him in all upside the head 1248 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 3: and block him from behind instead of just dunking it. 1249 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing with the finger roll miss against the pay 1250 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 3: so instead of dunking it as a seven footer. They 1251 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 3: just always have these moments where you think they're right there. 1252 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 2: Lynsanity come on Game six against the. 1253 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 3: Rockets, John Starks and Derek Harper and those guys shot 1254 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 3: them out of a championship. They're up three to two 1255 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 3: against Rudy, Tom Johnovich and the chem Olaja want of those. 1256 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 2: Guys, John Starks game seven. 1257 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 3: Is gracious shot him out of a championship. And then 1258 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 3: they put in Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis goes three for 1259 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 3: four in like three minutes. He's banging threes just like 1260 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 3: you had Hubert Davis on the bitch. 1261 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 2: Based on what's left, five teams that are left. 1262 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 3: That's where I'm going. 1263 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: The knickt winning is by far the biggest thing going 1264 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: for the NBA at the end of the season. 1265 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 3: The team that needs to win this whole thing. And 1266 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 3: it's because it's what you have said about superstar personality. 1267 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 3: Some some some some some some. 1268 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 2: Looks some juice. 1269 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 3: The guy that actually to the Olympics and told Lebron 1270 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,959 Speaker 3: and Steph and ran all of them. No, no, no, y'all, 1271 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 3: ain't the dudes no more. I'm the dude now. And 1272 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 3: that's my man, Anthony Edwards. 1273 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 4: I know. 1274 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 3: And if you agree with you, Jen Jalen ain't got 1275 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 3: no character. Jay ain't got no personality. 1276 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: By the way, if you end up with a Minnesota 1277 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: Knicks final. You got two teams and made a huge 1278 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: trade the benefit of both teams. 1279 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 3: And you got those guys going against each other exactly. 1280 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: So there's a great storyline. So we don't we always 1281 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: talked to fixes in. We just saw it again with 1282 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: Dallas with a one point eight percent. 1283 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 3: Get me going, don't you know, hey, trade you trade 1284 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 3: Luca and we'll make it up to you down at 1285 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 3: Wing Wing will make. 1286 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 1: It percent Harrison. What you're like, how is Nico Harrison 1287 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: nothing carried out in a stretcher god with Cooper flex. 1288 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're not take a place. 1289 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, all right, I'll hold off the alright, 1290 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: you know. Men, But again, when we talk about so 1291 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: many times, especially with the NBA, we look at like 1292 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: when they get to the finals, not every time, because 1293 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: obviously we get some upsets along the way, but you 1294 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: finally get like a storyline that makes a sense. And 1295 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: right now, the storyline that makes all the sense in 1296 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: the world is a Nicks t Wolves NBA Finals because 1297 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: of a huge trade that is one of those rare 1298 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: trades or big names are traded because don't forget, I 1299 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: mean not just Julius random Dvicenzo. 1300 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 3: Not just him, Tim's coach there too, exactly. So there's 1301 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 3: a lot of times back. 1302 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: So we talk about that trade, you know, Carl Anthony 1303 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: Towns moving on, I mean worked for both teams. And 1304 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: then you get full display in an NBA Finals matchup. 1305 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: That's a storyline that people get interested. 1306 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm a seven. What would that be a 1307 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 3: six versus three in the finals, right, yeah, six versus 1308 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 3: three in the finals. Now, as far as the Knicks go, though, 1309 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 3: this feels like the Bucks championship year because the Bucks 1310 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 3: kind of, you know, got some fuck. I always go 1311 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 3: back to that Eastern Conference Finals. If Kyrie Irvin doesn't 1312 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 3: step on Giannis's foot, Remember they're whooping the Bucks up 1313 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 3: and down the court in Game three, a game where 1314 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 3: they're already up two to zero in that series. They're 1315 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 3: kicking their butt. Kyrie goes down, and that whole series changing. 1316 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 3: If Kevin Durant had a half a foot short of 1317 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 3: a aasage shoot, if he had half a sage smaller, 1318 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 3: that's a win instead of pushing it into overtime. And 1319 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,439 Speaker 3: then the Bucks didn't get the Atlanta Hawks and Trey 1320 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 3: Young in Eastern Conference Finals to go get that championship, 1321 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 3: and then they get Phoenix and Chris Paul who was 1322 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 3: a little banged up, and they ain't never won none, 1323 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 3: and that's how they kind of got that chip. This 1324 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 3: next team kind of feels like that because I. 1325 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Know they did just personal Jalen Brunson. Let me ask 1326 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: you this personality, Oh I do he has a personality game. 1327 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 3: I can't stand guy, but you can't know was clutch 1328 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 3: player of the Year. 1329 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: So he foul Jalen Brunson. I'm not saying it's a 1330 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: better player. He's a more valuable player than Jason Tatum. 1331 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunton's value to the absolutely not come. 1332 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely not when he absolutely not Jalen. Jason Tatum is 1333 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 3: way more important to the Boston Celtics than the New 1334 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 3: York nickaboxas absolutely listen, we can probably call it even top, 1335 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 3: but I'm not giving it to Jalen. 1336 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm not giving that's fine. The reason was he was 1337 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: voted as the clutch player of the Year in the NBA. 1338 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Get I get all that. That means. 1339 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 2: Also, game was on the line. 1340 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: Who was the guy that made the most who. 1341 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 3: Did the best Jalen, Jalen Bond and couldn't beat none 1342 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 3: of the good team really, the top teams this year 1343 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 3: couldn't really beat him in. 1344 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 1: The Rugt Stadium. 1345 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, well they I mean beating him banged up 1346 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 3: now he's been Yeah, Boston, Boston. I don't want to 1347 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 3: blame it. I don't want to blame it on the injuries. 1348 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 3: But Jayson Tatum does go down. 1349 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: You know something for the Knicks? Now, it's nothing for that. 1350 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 3: I do got something for the Knicks. 1351 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, should your Pistons have already 1352 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: knocked out the Knicks? 1353 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 3: They don't talk about that serious man, that thing got 1354 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 3: handed to the Knicks. But but they want serious, they 1355 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 3: want a series that serious got handed to the Knicks. 1356 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,959 Speaker 3: But you said, uh, who's more important to the NBA 1357 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 3: Detroit and New York. You said it yourself that weekend 1358 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 3: on the show, it's the Knicks. And I get where 1359 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 3: you're going because you're right the big market. Listen, LA 1360 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 3: New York guys, we get what it is. 1361 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 1: Can I get Chris in on this as well? Chris, 1362 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: let me ask you again, Uh, we're talking about the 1363 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Knicks right now. Should the Pistons have already knocked out 1364 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 1: the Knicks. I mean they didn't, so I'm not sure, 1365 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Like what the well, I mean, the insinuation is is 1366 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: that that wasn't the better storyline. We needed to get 1367 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: the Knicks past the Pistons and get him into that 1368 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: series against the Celtics. 1369 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, what the calls look like 1370 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 5: is that officiating. I don't know if I can say 1371 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 5: that fully about the entire series. Like at the end 1372 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 5: of the day, the Pistons are just We're a young team, 1373 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 5: and they played like a young team that just were 1374 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 5: not able to withstand. Like I think back to Game one, 1375 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 5: the twenty one to zero run, like that's just a 1376 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 5: young team sitting there taking it to the face from 1377 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 5: the Knicks. I do have questions about the next going 1378 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 5: far in that they got past a young team in 1379 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 5: the Knicks, in the Pistons, that had, you know, a 1380 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 5: lot of that youth kind of going against them, while 1381 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 5: at the same time getting a Celtics team that lost 1382 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 5: Jason Tatum and ran out of gas by the time 1383 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 5: they hit Game six. But like watch how everyone was 1384 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 5: like sweating their their bleeps off over over Boston, forcing 1385 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 5: a Game six itself. Like I don't think the next 1386 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 5: team is very deep and it's going to really show 1387 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 5: in this next series against the Pacers. The Pacers are 1388 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 5: kind of like talk about the Pistons that four rosters 1389 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 5: like this is kind of where you have to build 1390 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 5: teams now. The Pacers build teams in according to the 1391 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 5: new CBA, which is you just have to have a 1392 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 5: solid roster at this point. 1393 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 3: And they played like a college team. They pick you 1394 01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 3: up ninety feet they picked They pressure it and pick 1395 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 3: you up Jalen Brunson. 1396 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 5: They don't have any great scorers like Tyre's Halliburton, but 1397 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 5: like they don't need to. They just play good, solid basketball. 1398 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 3: Bronx is gonna be in foul trouble in this series 1399 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 3: because they're gonna pick him up full court and he 1400 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 3: pushes off almost every time he puts the ball on 1401 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 3: the floor. He's gonna get caught with some early fouls 1402 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 3: some of these games just something to look for. 1403 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they have allowed a lot 1404 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 1: more physical play in these NBA playoffs than we've seen 1405 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: over the last few years. By the way, as I'm 1406 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 1: watching for getting ready for the tip off of this 1407 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: game that's on the four letter Denver and OKC, Why again, 1408 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: do they get rid of Van Gundy and Mark Jackson? 1409 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 3: Man stop it and Mark and Mark Jackson is doing commercials, 1410 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 3: chime commercials with all his signature. Mama, there goes that 1411 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 3: man man and him. So Mark Jackson, I'm happy to 1412 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 3: see him making some money. 1413 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Mark, I mean, they had such a good dynamic. 1414 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 3: It was it was great. You got rid of him 1415 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 3: for what them and the TNT crew. That's the best 1416 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 3: NBA thing had gone. Breen Jackson and Van Gundy and 1417 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 3: the TNT guys. It's the two best things the NBA 1418 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 3: had going. 1419 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what is trending right now. 1420 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: The best thing we have going here is Monty Belanas. 1421 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 1: I'll stop by far, I'll stop. 1422 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Well, you know you're the best day girl in the business. 1423 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 3: Not playing with his girls. 1424 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Well, she's hosting. She does everything around. 1425 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 6: Don't pitch Intomi into ankerj. 1426 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 2: Well whenever needed. 1427 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 3: I was about to mention you on the Dodger field 1428 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 3: just the other day, with which your old tiny shirt 1429 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 3: and bobblehead. He hits two home runs and then come on, 1430 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 3: I know what you. 1431 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 6: Do, says well, but they lost. So he hits two 1432 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 6: home runs. 1433 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 1: In the movie she Aaron Gordon warming up right now, guys. 1434 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he's playing. He's starting. They already announced it. 1435 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 6: They announced it not long ago. 1436 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 7: He is going to start and play in Game seven 1437 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 7: of the Western Conference semifinals Thunder and Denver. He does 1438 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 7: have a great two hamstring string that requires weeks to heal. 1439 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 6: But we were talking about it. Does he play VJ, 1440 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 6: you asked, and it's like, you. 1441 01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,439 Speaker 9: Play rights because if you win this game, you risk 1442 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 9: Right now, you're a Western Conference final and this Minnesota 1443 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 9: team is resting and they're coming at you. 1444 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 7: Yes, no, absolute, But it's like he's let's he's not 1445 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 7: gonna play I think the next series. 1446 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 6: But it's like, does he help them at least get 1447 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 6: to the next series? You know, I don't know. 1448 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: You up, bus, Shut up. 1449 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 7: He's suiting up and he's supposed to start. We'll see 1450 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 7: how much he actually plays. Is this like a tactic 1451 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 7: to like scare them, not scare them, but to be 1452 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 7: like he. 1453 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 6: Is playing, like you know what I'm saying, Is it 1454 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 6: a mental thing? We'll see how many. 1455 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 3: Minutes we're gonna see it really fast in this game 1456 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 3: with his movement monster, We're we're gonna see really fast 1457 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 3: exactly yes we are, and. 1458 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 6: He's starting, so yeah, we're gonna see it early on. 1459 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 7: This game is almost set to start Game seven, two 1460 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 7: greatest words in sports. 1461 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 6: Another Game seven today, also. 1462 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 7: Guys, but it's on the ice Panthers taking on the 1463 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 7: maple leaves. The puck is set to drop for that 1464 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 7: one at seven thirty Eastern. We'll go to baseball, where 1465 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 7: the Astros are now on top of the Rangers four 1466 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 7: to three. They're about to start the ninth inning in Texas. 1467 01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 7: The Braves have a seven to four lead over the 1468 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 7: rest Sox. Top of the eighth inning. Philly is still 1469 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 7: edging the Pirates one zero. It's the top of the 1470 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 7: ninth inning in Philadelphia and Philly's closer, Hosel a. Bad Allo, 1471 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 7: was suspended today eighty games without pay after he tested 1472 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 7: positive for a performance enhancing substance. He would also be 1473 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 7: ineligible for the postseason if the. 1474 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 6: Phillies were to make it. 1475 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 7: The Nationals still on top of the Orioles eight four, 1476 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 7: bottom of the seventh inning. The Tigers are on top 1477 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 7: of the Blue Jays three to two. Bottom of the seventh. 1478 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 7: The Reds are shutting out the Guardians three zero, bottom 1479 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 7: of the six Marlins have added some more runs. They're 1480 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 7: beating the Raise five to one bottom of the seventh 1481 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 7: inning about to start. The Twins have won thirteen in 1482 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 7: a row, but Rhina, Minnesota is losing to the Brewers 1483 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:38,920 Speaker 7: four to one. 1484 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 6: Bottom of the fifth inning. About to start. 1485 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 7: The Cardinals and the Royals are tied at one apiece 1486 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 7: bottom of the fifth inning, and the White Sox and 1487 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 7: the Cubs are also tied at win a piece, also 1488 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 7: bottom of the fifth inning. In tennis, Carlos Alcoraz won 1489 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 7: the Italian Open, defeating Jenets Cinner in that one. At 1490 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 7: the PGA Championship, Scotti Scheffler has a four shot lead. 1491 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 6: He did already start his final round. 1492 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 7: He's even through four holes, but he's still eleven under. 1493 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 7: Now has a five shot lead over everybody else that's 1494 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 7: in trying to fight for second place. 1495 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, mont See, I'm gonna 1496 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 1: tell you one guy that is not happy about the 1497 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon situation in a moment here. First of all, 1498 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: this is Hartman and Huski we at the Fox Sports 1499 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,879 Speaker 1: Radio studios. Be sure to check out Fox Sports Radio's 1500 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. There's a ton of great videos for many 1501 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 1: of our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search Fox Sports 1502 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: Radio on YouTube and you see a whole bunch of 1503 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 1: video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so 1504 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: you always have instant access on our Fox Sports Radio 1505 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,600 Speaker 1: videos right there on YouTube. If you're going to be 1506 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 1: recognized as the NBA insider, you need to get it right, 1507 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: and Shams unfortunately did not. 1508 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: It was about about two hours ago. 1509 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Hour and a half ago he posted that Denver's Aaron 1510 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: Gordon has a Grade two hamstring strain needs several weeks 1511 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 1: to recover from the injury. Nuggets playoff star has been 1512 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: searched for ways to play in today's Game seven, but 1513 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: it is becoming physically improbable to do so. And then 1514 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 1: he just posted this, Aaron Gordon will play and start 1515 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 1: Game seven gutting out a Grade two hamstring string. It 1516 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 1: s the the other thing about that position. This guy 1517 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 1: does great job. I'm not putting it down, but when 1518 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 1: you are that guy and you put it out there, 1519 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: especially for the gambling community, give me some insight. What's 1520 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 1: the deal on Gordon's he's gonna play? He's not gonna play. 1521 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: Shams puts it out there, it's gonna be improbable that 1522 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 1: he is. So you run and say, all right, no, Gordon, 1523 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my money down on OKC. 1524 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 2: And then you're turning on the TV. What the hell's 1525 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 2: happening here? 1526 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 1: He's in uniform, He's gonna start the game. You gave 1527 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 1: me pump information, dude. 1528 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 3: And okay, see is eight and a half favorite right 1529 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 3: now as it stands, right now. So I'm not a 1530 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 3: big Insiders guy because just too many times I just 1531 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: honestly feel like the Insider stuff you can put it 1532 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 3: out there and then it's never, oh my bad, I 1533 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 3: got that wrong. You can just put out another another poem. 1534 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 3: But when you're the guy, never have to really admit 1535 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 3: when you were wrong. 1536 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Geord Szanarowski, I mean he wasn't perfect either, believe me. 1537 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: He had some bad stories out there. But that's the 1538 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: problem if you're at the top, you know, if you're 1539 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: recognizes the guy, Uh, you got to get it right. 1540 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 1: So we'll see how it plays out with there. Gordon 1541 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: could be a very short lived play for him. I 1542 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 1: mean he's out, you know, shooting baskets, you know, before 1543 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: the game. Let's see if he can actually play with 1544 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 1: that injury. So that game's kicking off by the way, 1545 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: we got Scotti. Scheffler still sitting on a four shot 1546 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: lead right now. Nobody making a move. John Rahm is 1547 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: even par on the day, so is Bryce and to Shambo. 1548 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 1: So the two big names, they're just sort of sitting there. Scheffler, 1549 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: he can play even golf today. He didn't have to 1550 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: make a move. It's it's up to somebody else to 1551 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 1: make a move on it. 1552 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 3: It just it feels like he if he, I mean, 1553 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 3: if he didn't just blow it. I don't know if 1554 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 3: anybody like you know, I got my money on rom 1555 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 3: to try to make a little runs. 1556 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 2: Too smart a player to put himself in the right everything. 1557 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,679 Speaker 3: Listen, put it in the green, put it in the fairway. 1558 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 3: You can stay out of the rough, stay out at 1559 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 3: the bunkers. They out of the water on seventeen, and 1560 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 3: you you know you can walk away with. 1561 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 1: You You know, it was that way. I don't want 1562 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: to talk too much golf here, but Nick Faldough when 1563 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 1: his very first major was the nineteen eighty seven Open 1564 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Championship Final round eighteen pars, no birdies, no bogeys, eighteen 1565 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: pars good enough to walk away with a win. 1566 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 3: Why why Jack Nicholas was this way? 1567 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: Why Jack Wild? Why play it any other way? 1568 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,719 Speaker 2: Honestly, Tiger was this way. 1569 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,080 Speaker 1: The reason he never blew those is that he said, 1570 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 1: I'll do whatever I have to do. Somebody puts pressure 1571 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: on me, fine, then maybe I got to get a 1572 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: couple of birdies along the way. But if no one's 1573 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: breathing around my neck, I just play even cruise. 1574 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 3: And this cruise for his first first Masters, where he 1575 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,439 Speaker 3: just went where he just blew the field and he 1576 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 3: just kept going. Now, his first Masters, yeah, eighteen shots, right, 1577 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 3: he just and he was he saw him behind, like, yeah, 1578 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 3: I want them further back. 1579 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 1: He won by twelve shots. 1580 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want them further back. 1581 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: In the US Open, when he won by fifteen shots 1582 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 1: and then he goes to Saint Andrews and win by 1583 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: eight shots, he was. 1584 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 3: Just God, that's why you can't put nobody in this 1585 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 3: guy's category. 1586 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Nobody is putting them in their category. I said last 1587 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I had to do a TV prediction last night, and 1588 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 1: one of my producers there is a lifelong diehard Nuggets fan, right, 1589 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: and I told him, I will do you a favor 1590 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 1: based on my prognostication skills. I will pick OKC. But begrudgingly, honestly, 1591 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 1: I hate to hedge on a game, but this is 1592 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 1: really to me a coin flip game, I really think 1593 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: because OKAC, to me has not shown the level of 1594 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: play you would expect from a team that won sixty 1595 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: eight games during the regular season with an average margin 1596 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 1: of victory of almost fourteen points a game. We have 1597 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,599 Speaker 1: not seen that OKC team in this postseason. In Denver. 1598 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,559 Speaker 1: You know, you fire your coach, you know, with three 1599 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: games do on the regular season, and we've seen the 1600 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: joker step on a big way. Murray obviously is a 1601 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,839 Speaker 1: big game player, and I have this in the back. 1602 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 3: Of my mind. 1603 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Denver season last year ended in the second round with 1604 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: an ungodly home loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves. Perhaps the 1605 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: basketball gods will reverse that in the game. You will 1606 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 1: do the winning on the road today in Game seven. 1607 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 1: So if I'm leaning right now sort of thinking about 1608 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 1: this bye by OKAC, Hello Denver Nuggets. 1609 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 3: I'm not leaning. I'm already on a complete side. Give 1610 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 3: me the Nuggets in this one. And just simply because 1611 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 3: championship mental it matters teams that have been there before, 1612 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 3: teams that have done it before, and young teams just 1613 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 3: don't win championships. And this guy with the ball right 1614 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 3: in there, a number one five and you got Brown, 1615 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, Michael Porter Junior. And then Murray, Murray needs 1616 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 3: to have a big night tonight. But when it comes 1617 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 3: down to it, and this game is close, if they're 1618 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 3: gonna have the weather to storm, right, okay, he's gonna 1619 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 3: come out. 1620 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 1: This crowd is gonna be gonna be hot the same time. 1621 01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 3: Shirt, if you can weather to early storm like they 1622 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 3: did in game five, I believe it was weather that 1623 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 3: early storm, and keep this thing close, and then let 1624 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,839 Speaker 3: your championship experience. The years that you've been in the grind, 1625 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 3: the years that you want a championship, let that then 1626 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 3: shine through. Because there's nobody on that OKC roster that 1627 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 3: even knows remotely what that feel. 1628 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 1: But they have the league's MVP, Shay Gildess, Alexander, this 1629 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: is his game. 1630 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 2: It's a game seven, Shay Gildess, if you. 1631 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Are the player that you're gonna be rewarded with that 1632 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 1: MVP award, which we know eventually they're gonna announce that 1633 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 1: you're the MVP. This is the game. You have to 1634 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,720 Speaker 1: show it. I'm with you on this whole thing at 1635 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: the start. I mean again, when we look and judge 1636 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 1: players on their value to their careers, their teams, the league, 1637 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 1: it's based on what you do in the biggest games. 1638 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: And right now we got Denver off to an early 1639 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 1: four to two league all right. Coming up on the 1640 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 1: other side, will continue on our coverage of this game 1641 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 1: seven between OKAC and Denver. We'll also talk about what 1642 01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,200 Speaker 1: happened this week in Major League Baseball. Well, Pete Rose 1643 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 1: is back sort of, we'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday, 1644 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: Harvin and Husky here, Fox Sports Sunday. We're in the 1645 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios. So far, advantage Nuggets early in 1646 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 1: this game against the Thunder, very early on. We're watching 1647 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon right now and he's not moving very well 1648 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: predictably with that hamstring situation. So as we were talking, 1649 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 1: as long as he's moving, it sort of keeps it loose. 1650 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 1: But the second he has to sit, that's when it's 1651 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: going to tighten up. So he's trying out there right now. 1652 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 1: Twelve to eight Nuggets lead OKC. We're less than four 1653 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: minutes into that game. Scotty Scheffler now is a five 1654 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:38,679 Speaker 1: shot lead. 1655 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 3: But he just also, somebody just yanked there was a 1656 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 3: bad leader. 1657 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 1: So no one making a move on Scheffler, and he 1658 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 1: is coasting right now with a five shot lead final 1659 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 1: round of the PGA Championship. All right, So big baseball 1660 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: story this week was announced that well, I'll put it 1661 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: this way, Commissioner Manfred decided that if you have a 1662 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 1: lifetime suspension from baseball, that once your life ends, you're 1663 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: no longer suspended. You have served your life suspension. So 1664 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 1: all those that were on the suspended lists that are 1665 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: deceased are no longer on the suspended list. Are still players, 1666 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 1: by the way, on that list that are alive. But 1667 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,479 Speaker 1: if you have been if you died like Shoeless Joe 1668 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 1: Jackson did seventy years ago, or Pete Rose last year, 1669 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 1: you're no longer on the list. So all these headlines 1670 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: are like doors now open for Pete to be in 1671 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,719 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Let me make this clear, Pete 1672 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Rose will never be in the Hall of Fame. And 1673 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: it's not obviously because he deserves it or not. I've 1674 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 1: said from day one he deserves it. Go back. Paul 1675 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 1: Horney Alex Kris were best two of the best players 1676 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They were caught betting on their teams 1677 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 1: to win while they were playing. They were both suspended 1678 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: for one year, both reinstated. Both are in the Hall 1679 01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 1: of Fame, okay, but not with Pete Rose. And that 1680 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 1: is because the way it configures. First of all, he's 1681 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: not even eligible for consideration for two more years before 1682 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 1: that era committee that he would be lumped in with 1683 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,560 Speaker 1: would actually vote. You have sixteen members on that committee. 1684 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 1: Six of them are former Hall of Famers, the rest 1685 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,960 Speaker 1: of former executives and media people. There's no way he's 1686 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: going to get twelve out of sixteen votes. There's just 1687 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 1: going to be too much negative push on a guy 1688 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: that was suspended for life for gambling on the game 1689 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 1: for him to get in the Hall of Fame. Now 1690 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,240 Speaker 1: what I vote him in, it would he should have 1691 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 1: been the Hall of Fame immediately. And by the way, 1692 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 1: to further complicated down the road for him, they just 1693 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 1: put in a new rule for these era committees saying 1694 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 1: that if you don't get at least five votes, you're 1695 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 1: not even eligible three years later when that same committee 1696 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,639 Speaker 1: meets again, and then three years after that you get 1697 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,719 Speaker 1: one more shot. If you don't get the five votes, 1698 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: then you are completely eliminated by the way they put 1699 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,839 Speaker 1: that in place for the Barry Bonds, the Roger Clemens, 1700 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 1: all the ped guys that they're trying to permanently eliminate 1701 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: from the Hall of Fame. The Baseball Hall of Fame 1702 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: is a joke. But here's the reality, folks. Under the 1703 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,799 Speaker 1: current rules of the Hall of Fame, he rose still 1704 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 1: will not make it to the Hall of Fame. 1705 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Baseball Hall of Fame is the weirdest Hall 1706 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,759 Speaker 3: of Fame to me. The percentage of votes you need 1707 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 3: and the rules, and you can't get in this year, 1708 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 3: then you got to wait another two to three years 1709 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 3: for this or that. It's just it's so weird that 1710 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 3: it's like how like, for instance, there's guys that tested 1711 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 3: positive that are in. David Ortiz tested positive. He was 1712 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 3: on the list, but you. 1713 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: Let him in the Hall, Pud Rodriguez. 1714 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 3: Pudch but you didn't let Barry Bonds, who clearly it's 1715 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 3: one of the top ten complete five two baseball players 1716 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 3: that God's ever created to put on earth. He was 1717 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 3: a forty to forty guy when he was in Pittsburgh, 1718 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:55,760 Speaker 3: went in multiple MVPs seven. But because that you had 1719 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 3: to hold him and maguire social stuff. You're not gonna 1720 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,479 Speaker 3: you're act the baseball acts like none of these like 1721 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,639 Speaker 3: alexro Alex Rodriguez, y'all gonna add like he wasn't good 1722 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 3: before all of that. 1723 01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Y'all gonna act like. 1724 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 3: That he wasn't good. 1725 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Here's the thing before all of that stuff, Like come on, okay, VJ, 1726 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 1: here's the joke of the matter is. And by the way, 1727 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 1: John Palm Morosi will not be joining us today. He's 1728 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,559 Speaker 1: got some family stuff. But I've said this a JP 1729 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,480 Speaker 1: as well. When you talk about, well, these guys jeopardize 1730 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the integrity of the game, and I'm like, the integrity 1731 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 1: of a sport that's been an entire race of people 1732 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: for sixty years. 1733 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 3: Right, you're worried about the integrity of what integrity are 1734 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:30,639 Speaker 3: we talking about? 1735 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,919 Speaker 1: If you really want integrity on the history of baseball, 1736 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 1: then any anything that happened before nineteen forty seven should 1737 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 1: have an asterisk. The entire career of babro should have 1738 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 1: an asterisk. Because you weren't an all inclusive sport. You 1739 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 1: had a segregated sport. So this idea that you jeopardize 1740 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 1: the integrity of the sport is ridiculous. There's never been integrity. 1741 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,680 Speaker 1: There's always been cheating in baseball. It's part of what 1742 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 1: makes the game the game. It is, so I mean 1743 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: to single out the PD users or somebody to bet 1744 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,840 Speaker 1: on their team to actually win. No evidence ever bet 1745 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: against this team. It is a mockery, all right, VJ. 1746 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 1: I know you got lots to say about this on 1747 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 1: the other side, plus more on these NBA playoffs. It's 1748 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,919 Speaker 1: some Fox Sports Sunday, huge day in the world of sports, 1749 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 1: and we are all over it here on Fox Sports 1750 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 1: Sunday once again in the Fox Sports Radio studios. And 1751 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 1: right now a really bad start for OKC Denver twenty 1752 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 1: one thunder ten. By the way, Aaron Gordon, this game 1753 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 1: sort we got five rebounds. 1754 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 3: Hey, that's all Just being out there is enough right now. 1755 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 3: But this is championship Mintel you're seeing right here? 1756 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Okay, see they have not been here, man, this Denver 1757 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:53,080 Speaker 1: team has and at ten points with your MVP. Yeah, 1758 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 1: as far as are you ready for this? Short one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 1759 01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 1: eight nine. Scottie Scheffler bogeing another hole. He's ad ten under. 1760 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 1: There are nine golfers nine tied at six under nine. 1761 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: There's a nine way tie for second place right now, 1762 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: including Bryson, De'shambo and John Rahm. So but they're just 1763 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,240 Speaker 1: sitting there, both, they're just sitting there and so no 1764 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 1: real pressure on Scheffler yet. But John Rahm is one 1765 01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 1: of those guys you know, trying you get a couple 1766 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 1: of birdies, you know, get get within a couple of shots. 1767 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 1: I need put a little heat on Scheffler, But right 1768 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 1: now he's still sitting there with a four shot lead 1769 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,680 Speaker 1: through six holes here in the final round of the 1770 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 1: PGA Golf Championship. All right, so we have had a 1771 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,759 Speaker 1: quite a day today. I wanted to get your thoughts 1772 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,240 Speaker 1: as we were finishing off on the whole the Pete 1773 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,559 Speaker 1: Rose situation and again this this this idea of the 1774 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame Hall of Fames in general, there's 1775 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 1: no perfect formula. Some I think. I think the Pro 1776 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame does it best. They fall they 1777 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,599 Speaker 1: have a smaller voting committee. They're very public about it. 1778 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, you get the breakdown of the fire list 1779 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,720 Speaker 1: and everything else. We don't know anything about basketball Hall 1780 01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 1: of Fame. No, we don't even know who's on the 1781 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 1: voting committee. I guess it's Jerry Colangelo doing it himself. 1782 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,680 Speaker 1: And baseball has got way too many people and they 1783 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 1: put everybody in. I think the Pro Football Hall of 1784 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 1: Fame does it best. At least you have everyone in 1785 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: the same room. They're talking about it. You know, you 1786 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 1: get a name like Peyton Mann, You're like, Okay, let's 1787 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,640 Speaker 1: move on to the next guy. But there's a lot 1788 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 1: of guys that can make arguments one way. You know, 1789 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Eli Manning is one of those guys. There'll be people 1790 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,800 Speaker 1: will argue for him. I'll get against him. So at 1791 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 1: least you have an open conversation about that. The Baseball 1792 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, though, especially these committees when they talk 1793 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,200 Speaker 1: about the seniors committees, and I don't know, I mean 1794 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 1: to me, frankly, I get having a separate committee for 1795 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,680 Speaker 1: managers and executives and umpires, right because they're not on 1796 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,520 Speaker 1: the baseball player's ballot, But why are we still considering 1797 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 1: players like if you haven't been in after forty years, 1798 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean really, and you know, and then that's that's 1799 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,840 Speaker 1: the problem. For a Barry Bonds and for a Roger 1800 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 1: Clemens and a Raphae pal Merrow or Mark McGuire or 1801 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,680 Speaker 1: Sammy Sosser and a rod or Manny Ormers are all 1802 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: these guys that had a Hall of Fame career's Gary Sheffield. 1803 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 1: The committee is saying, well, they didn't. They didn't like you, right, 1804 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: and so you know, you know, we'll put in a 1805 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Fred McGriff. He seems safe. You know. 1806 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,920 Speaker 3: They put mcgret a word I don't even I don't 1807 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:21,720 Speaker 3: even think I've ever heard. 1808 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: We'll put in Harold Bain's. 1809 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 3: Right, Harold Bain, Haryld bain Man. It's a hall as 1810 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. 1811 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 1: You know. 1812 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm like that with basketball too. Somebody's listen, I made 1813 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,760 Speaker 3: a big gap. I'm talking to Paul Pierce at a 1814 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 3: Lakers so it's a game covering the Lakers. I'm talking 1815 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,800 Speaker 3: to Paul Pierce. I forgot that Paul Pierce did get 1816 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,000 Speaker 3: in the Hall. I think in twenty one, like twenty 1817 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:43,800 Speaker 3: or twenty. 1818 01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,639 Speaker 1: One year he didn't. Yeah, you got in a second. Yeah. 1819 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,080 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. 1820 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 3: It's like, it's Paul Pierce, a Hall of Fame player, 1821 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,280 Speaker 3: really really really really really good. 1822 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 1: It is a Hall of Fame. Paul Pierce is the 1823 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,240 Speaker 1: same player in different games, but the same kind of 1824 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 1: career as Reggie Miller, and they're both in the Hall 1825 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:02,559 Speaker 1: of Fame. 1826 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if Reggie Miller is a Hall of Famer. 1827 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Right exactly, he's not. I mean again, it's like you're 1828 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: you're coming around to where I am here. You know again, 1829 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,120 Speaker 1: if I if I give you a name like Larry 1830 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: Bird's a Hall of Famer? Was Kevin McHale a Hall 1831 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 1: of Famer? Was Robert Parrish a Hall of Famer? They're 1832 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame both, were you. 1833 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:24,920 Speaker 3: Know Robert. 1834 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 2: When you when you what do you when you look at. 1835 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:35,360 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, Yes, Kareem abdul Jabbar, yes, Worthy, yes, Worthy. 1836 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yes. And then it kind of stops right there 1837 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,759 Speaker 3: for me. But I know, I know, didn't. 1838 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 1: Cooper just get in? Michael Cooper just got in great defender, 1839 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: I get it. I bought mcadow's in. 1840 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,559 Speaker 3: Right, former Piston, former Laker, You know. 1841 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,400 Speaker 1: I means mcgrady's in, and I light t mac but 1842 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 1: hall of famer? Well, he actually had seven all NBA, 1843 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 1: don't Was Chris Weber a Hall of Fame? 1844 01:24:58,920 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 7: Well? 1845 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 1: First of all, you again again, when you're saying now, 1846 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 1: McGrady obviously didn't play any college ball, it came out. Yeah, 1847 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 1: So the Basketball Hall of Fame is all inclusive. That's 1848 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,720 Speaker 1: why Ralph Sampson is in the Hall of Fame. He 1849 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in the NBA Hall of Fame, but he 1850 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,599 Speaker 1: was a college Hall of Fame. But irony is actually 1851 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 1: having so good. 1852 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 3: Three years saw a good three year career out of 1853 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 3: your basketball life gets you in. I have a beef 1854 01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 3: with that. So don't go akay the UVA years, bet. 1855 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,360 Speaker 3: But then even if you play at eight or nine 1856 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 3: years in the NBA, we don't remember none of your 1857 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 3: NBA stuff. So you got in off of two to 1858 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 3: three years of what you did at UV eight to 1859 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:34,720 Speaker 3: the Basketball Hall. 1860 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Ben Wallace is in the 1861 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. 1862 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,559 Speaker 3: Ben Wallace is also a four time NBA Defensive Player 1863 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,559 Speaker 3: of the Year and one of the better, one of 1864 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 3: the best rebounders. 1865 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,479 Speaker 1: And that little five year run with a really great 1866 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Pistons team, he did nothing. You know that, right, I 1867 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 1: understand that. 1868 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 3: But within that little run he was the best defender 1869 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 3: in basketball that won four Yeah, I see the hoop 1870 01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,400 Speaker 3: and also saw him guard Shack and stop shot too. 1871 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 3: There's sometimes he was Shack put him in a hoop, 1872 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 3: but there's also. 1873 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes he was bi. But if you're talking centers, when 1874 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 1: you put a Ma Tambo or a Wallace in for 1875 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 1: their defense, are they on the same level as Shaq 1876 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 1: team Ojan, I mean, that's my that's my But. 1877 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 3: Shack will tell you too, he won't a great rebound 1878 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 3: or a great defender. He's just a dominant offensive force. 1879 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 3: So Shaq went a great defender. You can score on 1880 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 3: Shack and Shaq went. 1881 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard getting in the Hall of Fame absolutely what. 1882 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,960 Speaker 1: He's another four time NBA defensive player. 1883 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 3: Way I know. But winning to me also has the matter. 1884 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 3: Winning to me goes into the equations. So if you 1885 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 3: so we had a charge, yeah, you know how I 1886 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,840 Speaker 3: feel about the buverine. Don't get me starting. But coo on, 1887 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 3: let's just put an imaginary chart up and there's categories, right, 1888 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:41,519 Speaker 3: So there's. 1889 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: Wait to say Ben Wallace over Dwight Howard. 1890 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, come on, He's part of the reason he won 1891 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,280 Speaker 3: the championship. Dwight ain't never get no champion, No deps 1892 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 3: did even make That's what I'm saying. So so so 1893 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,720 Speaker 3: here's our imaginary chart. So you have offense and you 1894 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 3: can go how many NBA, NBA selections, how many personal 1895 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 3: awards and champion there's other categories, but those be like 1896 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,880 Speaker 3: the championship and that matters nine even matters winning as 1897 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:07,320 Speaker 3: a team. 1898 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,719 Speaker 1: That's a team on plates. And why aren't you putting 1899 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:10,799 Speaker 1: Robert Ry in the Hall. 1900 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 3: Of Fame Because Robert Rory was a role player? Ben 1901 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:15,679 Speaker 3: Wallace wasn't a role player? 1902 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 2: Is a key role player on every team. 1903 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,120 Speaker 3: Has key role players. It doesn't make you a hall 1904 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,839 Speaker 3: of Fame? Is Vernon Maxwell and Kinny Smith hall of famers? 1905 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 3: They were? 1906 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 1: They didn't win seven rings. They didn't win multiple rings 1907 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,200 Speaker 1: with three different franchise. There's only one guy he's ever 1908 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 1: done that, and that's Robert or I know, But Robert 1909 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Rory is not a Hall of Fame player. 1910 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 3: Man, he was a he was. 1911 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 1: A great role player. That okay, is Steve Kerr hall 1912 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:38,800 Speaker 1: of Famer? No? 1913 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,280 Speaker 3: Right, and Steve he doesn't. 1914 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't and he's not kind of it's just kind 1915 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 1: of the same. Robert Roy has seven rings. Okay, it's 1916 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 1: one more than Jordan's, all right now, I know that. 1917 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 3: But he also like caught fire goy what he got 1918 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 3: some with the Lakers got some with the Spurs, and 1919 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,560 Speaker 3: got some and got some with the Rockets. 1920 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,719 Speaker 2: He very franchise. 1921 01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't like to say the word. 1922 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,719 Speaker 3: Look, he was very blessed to get to some teams 1923 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 3: and play with some coaches and play with them. 1924 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 1: He was smart. 1925 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 3: Let's just say that. 1926 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 1: In his agent think about it. 1927 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,720 Speaker 3: You know you can ask and Robert Orie at that 1928 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 3: time you could kind of pick where you want to 1929 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,360 Speaker 3: go right as a free agent, and yeah, I want 1930 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,720 Speaker 3: to go to San Antonio. You know, I want to 1931 01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:12,320 Speaker 3: go to the Lakers. 1932 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,520 Speaker 1: You know they put in the Hall of Fame Chris Bosh. 1933 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,960 Speaker 3: And that's yeah, that's that's to me. That's Ray Allen. 1934 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 3: You think Ray he's in the Hall of Fame? Is 1935 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 3: he really? 1936 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1937 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:22,559 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1938 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 1: Really Jesus Shuttlesworth, No, Jesus, I think you better look 1939 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,360 Speaker 1: up Ray Allen. First of all, he's a ten times. 1940 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,200 Speaker 1: Three of his All Stars were when he was the 1941 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 1: commissioner pick Ray was. Ray was a good guy in 1942 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,280 Speaker 1: the league. Really like, Ray Allen's numbers are not nowhere 1943 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 1: near I mean, he's like a poor man's Reggie Miller. 1944 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 1: Oh stop it. He was a more man shooter. 1945 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 3: No, he was more way at do you remember young 1946 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Ray Allen with the Milwaukee Bucks. That was just a 1947 01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:50,679 Speaker 3: three point shooter. 1948 01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,679 Speaker 1: I forgot to me. Your faith Ray Allen was Seattle. 1949 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,559 Speaker 1: Come on now, I mean, look if you look at 1950 01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,799 Speaker 1: if you I'll put Paul Pierce over Ray Allen any day. 1951 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,640 Speaker 3: And then you can look at rayality we talk about basketball. 1952 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 3: Look at his career Yukon. Look at what he was 1953 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,400 Speaker 3: doing there at Yukon. He had the game, win a 1954 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,240 Speaker 3: shot in the Biggies championship game over a idnight. 1955 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 1: Sorry, did they win a national championship? 1956 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 3: They didn't win a national championship. 1957 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 2: We knocked him out. That would be u c l 1958 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,759 Speaker 2: A thank you, bru. 1959 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 1: Ty. 1960 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 3: Is that the baby coast to coast? 1961 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they took out Ray Allen. 1962 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, Sweet sixteen, Sweet sixteen, the leader. 1963 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,160 Speaker 1: It was a lead that was there was bye by Yukon. 1964 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:33,960 Speaker 1: See you later. You'll have to wait another day at 1965 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,439 Speaker 1: those champions By the way, good news for you. John 1966 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 1: rom just got a birdie. 1967 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 3: There we go. 1968 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 1: He is now closed within three shots of the lead. 1969 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,280 Speaker 1: So Scheffler is sitting there at number seven right now, 1970 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,559 Speaker 1: coming off a bogie and his lead is down two three. 1971 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 3: And that could have been an eagle if he didn't, 1972 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:52,560 Speaker 3: if he didn't miss the green and end up in 1973 01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 3: the rough. He gets a nice pitch onto the green 1974 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 3: then and able to get the bogies. He could have 1975 01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,439 Speaker 3: had an eagle and it would have been a two 1976 01:29:58,479 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 3: shot lead. 1977 01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So when we we started this conversation, Denver was 1978 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 1: up twenty one to ten. Is now twenty six to 1979 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 1: twenty three. Here come the thunder. All right, we'll continue 1980 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:08,799 Speaker 1: on and. 1981 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,520 Speaker 2: By the way, on the other side, a new favorite. 1982 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Segment here on our show. Yes, and that is over under. 1983 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,240 Speaker 1: Chris Burfett is on the board, and Chris has got 1984 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 1: over unders for us. We still unresolved over unders from 1985 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,920 Speaker 1: last week, to be honest with you, but we'll get 1986 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 1: our score in the long term one. Yeah, we'll have 1987 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,799 Speaker 1: our latest scorecard on this. We'll have some over unders. 1988 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 1: By the way, Okac is about to take the lead 1989 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 1: right now as Denver is collapsing. And there it is, 1990 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,920 Speaker 1: oh a block and one and Okase has taken the 1991 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 1: lead over Denver as we have started the second quarter. 1992 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 1: There we're all over it. This is Fox Board Sunday, 1993 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 1: Harvin Husky, Fox Sports Sunday. We're in the Fox Sports 1994 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,640 Speaker 1: Radio studios. Well, it has been all thunder in the 1995 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,920 Speaker 1: second quarter about score the Nuggets eleven to three. Okay, 1996 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 1: see right now with a thirty two to twenty nine 1997 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 1: lead eight minutes to go in the first half in 1998 01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:13,320 Speaker 1: that game. So Denver has cooled off tremendously here and 1999 01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 1: OKASE got off to a horrific start and now they're 2000 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,360 Speaker 1: catching fires. So it's big game seven. There's gonna be 2001 01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,960 Speaker 1: little runs and early run went to Denver and now 2002 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:28,040 Speaker 1: is with OKC. All right, let's get into a subject matter. 2003 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:32,920 Speaker 1: This is the genius of Chris. Chris Purfett used with me, 2004 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 1: but he happened upon well actually for me personally. It 2005 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,840 Speaker 1: started with an over under. He gave me on how 2006 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:48,639 Speaker 1: many this was off air? How many starts will Shadoor Sanders? 2007 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,559 Speaker 1: How he snaps? It was actually snaps snaps? Yet will 2008 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders take in the regular season this year? And 2009 01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,799 Speaker 1: the over under was a half meaning will he actually 2010 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:06,479 Speaker 1: play at all this year in the NFL? Or will 2011 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 1: he not? And I thought, well, that's pretty outrageous. Why 2012 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,360 Speaker 1: don't you ask that one of VJ? He did, and 2013 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 1: you were a gast that's such a insulting question. But 2014 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,040 Speaker 1: it happened upon the idea, well, these overrunners could actually 2015 01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,959 Speaker 1: work for us, So, Chris, before we get to today's 2016 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,320 Speaker 1: over unders, remind us of some of the over unders 2017 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,599 Speaker 1: we had last week. 2018 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 5: So last week's a bit of a wash because one's 2019 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 5: a long term bet. I granted both you guys took 2020 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:36,240 Speaker 5: over on this full season's Belichick coaches at North Carolina, 2021 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 5: by the way. 2022 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,759 Speaker 1: You imagined that, and and the over under was a half, 2023 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,920 Speaker 1: and I was of the story. Yet yeah, yeah, the 2024 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: story out there is that it may not actually get 2025 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,000 Speaker 1: to the start of the season. VJ. 2026 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:48,160 Speaker 3: I don't buy it. 2027 01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,639 Speaker 2: There's some buzz that Belichick may never coach a. 2028 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:53,120 Speaker 1: Game at North Carolina always because there is a buyout 2029 01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 1: in his deal. It's only a million dollars. The problem again, 2030 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 1: is what about the assistance that they have hired. You'd 2031 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,880 Speaker 1: have to pay off there contract. 2032 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 3: Not only that, guys, you'd have to bring in an 2033 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:07,280 Speaker 3: entire new coaching staff after June first, and college football 2034 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,000 Speaker 3: that makes zero. You're mailing a year in. 2035 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:11,559 Speaker 1: Well, it was more. 2036 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,800 Speaker 5: It was more a reaction to just how bad the 2037 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,519 Speaker 5: Jordan Hudson story had been getting at this point. And 2038 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,680 Speaker 5: it's the eternal question is is UNC is? 2039 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:18,840 Speaker 1: This? 2040 01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 5: Is this worth the squeeze for UNC? So that one's 2041 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,400 Speaker 5: a wash. Although you both went over on that one 2042 01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:27,200 Speaker 5: Commander's National Game six and a half. I think we 2043 01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,679 Speaker 5: interpreted that as prime time VJ had over Steve had under. 2044 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,559 Speaker 5: I believe the number came out at five. On the 2045 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 5: flip side, Rockies wins by next week at a half. 2046 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,560 Speaker 5: They actually won that game that was on, which was 2047 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:45,679 Speaker 5: the Padres game, So that's Steve over VJ under. 2048 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:47,400 Speaker 1: Game. 2049 01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:49,200 Speaker 3: That game counted the game that was going on. 2050 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,880 Speaker 5: All that counter And the one we're still waiting on 2051 01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,880 Speaker 5: is Jokic first place MVP boats twenty and a half. 2052 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,760 Speaker 5: I think that's right number Steve had over, but they 2053 01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,519 Speaker 5: haven't put out the MVP. I still believe that number 2054 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,840 Speaker 5: is gonna be between fifteen and twenty five. I think 2055 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 5: it's gonna be right around there. But yeah, we still 2056 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 5: have to have no idea. 2057 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 1: And again, if OKC loses this game right now, they're 2058 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,200 Speaker 1: well eading thirty seven to thirty five, the idea of 2059 01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,160 Speaker 1: presenting him the award in front of his hometown fans 2060 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,639 Speaker 1: would go out the window because their season would be over. 2061 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:18,920 Speaker 1: So there you go. 2062 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,400 Speaker 5: It's very odd. I mean I wrote that anticipating we 2063 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:22,479 Speaker 5: at least get an answer on. 2064 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,840 Speaker 1: It should have been announced Tuesday before Game five. It 2065 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,800 Speaker 1: was a two ten series, and okase, I don't know 2066 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 1: what's going on. I was sitting here like they already 2067 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,360 Speaker 1: gave away all the other votes, and by the way, 2068 01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,200 Speaker 1: holding out the MVP is also holding up the announcement 2069 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,680 Speaker 1: of the all link teams, all defense, all rookie. So 2070 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2071 01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,559 Speaker 5: The NBA is all over the place, all over the place. 2072 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 5: Let's get to some of the new ones. We get 2073 01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,360 Speaker 5: four each week, and I'm saving all these just in 2074 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,240 Speaker 5: case we have some long term ones. There is one 2075 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,880 Speaker 5: long term one here, but I'm keeping spreadsheets. We'll always 2076 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 5: have these around. Let's just start Karl Anthony Towns. We'll 2077 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 5: start with an easy one here. We're gonna have two games. 2078 01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,160 Speaker 5: He's gonna play two games before our next show. So 2079 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,519 Speaker 5: over under cat seventy excuse me, fifty seven and a 2080 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 5: half points combined in the first two games, the first 2081 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 5: two games before we're on the air next under fifty 2082 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,599 Speaker 5: seven and a half. That's a big number they're saying 2083 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,639 Speaker 5: for two games for two games for the season itself, 2084 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:22,320 Speaker 5: I think he averaged something like twenty six point three. 2085 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was fifty two. That's that's way under. 2086 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's been up and down in this post. 2087 01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,599 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think from the Pacers standpoint, I mean, 2088 01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,200 Speaker 1: who are they putting up against him? 2089 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:37,240 Speaker 3: They got bodies? I was about to say, they got bodies? 2090 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,120 Speaker 3: And his three point shots been off. He started one for, 2091 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,640 Speaker 3: he was one for, he was one for twelve of 2092 01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,160 Speaker 3: his last thirteen at one point against against the. 2093 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 1: Sole Let me the scorecard, says Hartman, two VJ. Nothing. 2094 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 1: Is that what I'm reading on those that are? I believe? 2095 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 4: So? 2096 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,040 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So I feel like I got some wiggle 2097 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,800 Speaker 1: room here, go ahead, Do I really go? I feel 2098 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,479 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure when the when, the where the 2099 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:05,320 Speaker 1: date is for the end of this, but yeah, okay, okay, 2100 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 1: Well that's run it all summer fifty seven and a half. 2101 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 1: Could you make it fifty two and a half. 2102 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 5: I thought about it, but I decided to want to 2103 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,679 Speaker 5: lecture juice. It is the playoffs. This is your big star. 2104 01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:17,559 Speaker 5: He's got to step up. He's not the big star. 2105 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson is a big star. I'd have to say 2106 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,200 Speaker 5: under two. I would like to take. 2107 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 3: The wiggle room, Steve don't don't don't know. 2108 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,360 Speaker 1: If he said fifty and a half, I would have 2109 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 1: said over thirty points a game. 2110 01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,800 Speaker 3: No, all right, all right, no misom. 2111 01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2112 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,920 Speaker 5: NFL rules, we're going to get some proposals this coming week. 2113 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,720 Speaker 5: We've talked a lot about the proposal to change the 2114 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:49,679 Speaker 5: uh the playoff seating to be record rather than divisional, 2115 01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,840 Speaker 5: posed by the Detroit Lions. Apparently the NFL kind of 2116 01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,519 Speaker 5: urged it after hearing Aman Ross Saint Brown talk about 2117 01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 5: it on a podcast, and it would probably a reaction to, 2118 01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:00,960 Speaker 5: you know, the Vikings go on the road and loose 2119 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,440 Speaker 5: the Rams rather than have the chance to be embarrassed 2120 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,240 Speaker 5: at home for themselves. 2121 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,160 Speaker 1: So we got that. But also one of. 2122 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,360 Speaker 5: The rules proposals that they're voting on this week is 2123 01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 5: going to be allowing players to vote, I mean, excuse me, 2124 01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,440 Speaker 5: to play flag football in the twenty twenty eight Olympics, 2125 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,639 Speaker 5: and that has a lot of big implications. I'm just saying, 2126 01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,800 Speaker 5: there's a there's a couple of rules proposals on the 2127 01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,639 Speaker 5: table here, So I'm asking you over under a half 2128 01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,719 Speaker 5: a rule past in this week's owners meeting. 2129 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 2: Well, wait a second. How many different rules are on 2130 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,400 Speaker 2: the table those. 2131 01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:34,599 Speaker 3: Two that I am aware of. I think he's asking 2132 01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,880 Speaker 3: about just those two. Well, you can only ask about 2133 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,120 Speaker 3: those two, all right. We'll just ask about those two. 2134 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:45,200 Speaker 3: Between those two, layoff changes and flag football participation, do 2135 01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 3: any of them get passed? No, give me under They 2136 01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,519 Speaker 3: are not. These owners are not going to allow their cash, 2137 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,520 Speaker 3: their cash product to go out here and tearing acl 2138 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,760 Speaker 3: I will say hamstring or a groin in the Olympics 2139 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:00,280 Speaker 3: and flag for ball. 2140 01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,840 Speaker 1: I actually think they're more apt to say fine with 2141 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 1: that one. The playoff changes is not gonna that is 2142 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,200 Speaker 1: not going to I'll go over on this. I think 2143 01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,479 Speaker 1: that they might there might be some something wiggle rim 2144 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,080 Speaker 1: on the flag football. The reason I'm saying that is 2145 01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,520 Speaker 1: when you watch NFL games, they're plugging flag football constantly, 2146 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 1: like this is their big hype job. And if they 2147 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,680 Speaker 1: get NFL players out there playing flag football and a 2148 01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,800 Speaker 1: way to promote it, so I'm gonna go home. I 2149 01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,360 Speaker 1: think they say thumbs up on the flag, thumbs down 2150 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 1: on the play. 2151 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 3: This is why thumbs down on the flag football, because 2152 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,840 Speaker 3: football is in an American American sport. How many current 2153 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:47,040 Speaker 3: NFL players can go actually play for another country. Most 2154 01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,840 Speaker 3: of American NFL players are American just. 2155 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 1: But we do know this. Canada understand this. We know 2156 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 1: there is going to be flag football in these Olympics. 2157 01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,960 Speaker 1: They've already announced that for both men and win. 2158 01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 8: No. 2159 01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,639 Speaker 1: I know you have a chance to showcase your NFL 2160 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,360 Speaker 1: players at the Olympics. Germany has their own domestic league. 2161 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, but what I'm saying is NFL players they can't Okay, 2162 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,559 Speaker 3: we can't just go field an NFL team. 2163 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,320 Speaker 1: How do you feel about the NBA players on. 2164 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,080 Speaker 5: Then there would probably be a lot of One of 2165 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:16,720 Speaker 5: the things they have to talk about is there is 2166 01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 5: a lot of restrictions to the American team for flag football. 2167 01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,679 Speaker 1: It's I say it's over. 2168 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,760 Speaker 5: I'll go all right, I'll take yeah, and again you're 2169 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 5: getting the with the room on the I I think 2170 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,240 Speaker 5: the playoff thing has more legs than you think. 2171 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:29,519 Speaker 1: But we'll see no. 2172 01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,400 Speaker 3: Zero, they're not giving up that divisional rights. I kept looking. 2173 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,680 Speaker 3: I will say this, I kept looking to see if 2174 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 3: I could get if the votes Republic, if I could 2175 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 3: get the actual vote breakdown it over under. 2176 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:41,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. 2177 01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 3: We've we've heard this for years and first, they're never 2178 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,639 Speaker 3: going to give up that winning. They're not taking away 2179 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 3: what win in the division means. 2180 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,160 Speaker 1: Now, No, that's fine. The waiting a lot more home 2181 01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,519 Speaker 1: games for the Annapolis Colts or something. I guess why 2182 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,160 Speaker 1: do you think the Patriots were so good? They played 2183 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,400 Speaker 1: in that weak AFC East all those years up wins 2184 01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:00,640 Speaker 1: against the bill Jets and the. 2185 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,960 Speaker 5: Tourist in the villain of North Carolina. Thanks you, National 2186 01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 5: Football League. Let's move on. The forty nine Ers gave 2187 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:12,640 Speaker 5: brock Purty a contract extension here. Uh, couple that with 2188 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,320 Speaker 5: Eric Edholm NFL ranking. Their schedule is the most favorable 2189 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,639 Speaker 5: schedule on there. They do play a fourth place schedule. 2190 01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,240 Speaker 5: The divisions work out a certain way. 2191 01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:23,040 Speaker 1: Checked it. 2192 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 5: This is natural Vegas lines. Let's talk about this. On 2193 01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 5: their season over and a half ten and a half 2194 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 5: wins under. 2195 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 1: They were six and eleven last year brock party was 2196 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:36,599 Speaker 1: six and nine under. 2197 01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:42,920 Speaker 3: HM, know who won some a deebo. You get a 2198 01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,920 Speaker 3: healthy McCaffrey back, that's a big how long you got 2199 01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,920 Speaker 3: it right? Right, Listen, I've been saying it for years. 2200 01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:51,799 Speaker 3: Bro I never was sold on McCaffrey being a healthy, 2201 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 3: all the time player. He was he was banned up 2202 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:55,760 Speaker 3: in college, just banned up in Carolina. 2203 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:57,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 2204 01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:58,240 Speaker 3: Ten and a half. 2205 01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's That's what why I think because it 2206 01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,360 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just wow. 2207 01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 5: I know my eyes are popping a little bit seeing 2208 01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:04,719 Speaker 5: double digits at Division. 2209 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,560 Speaker 3: You know, Arizona a R. So you look at the Arizona. 2210 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:13,280 Speaker 3: Arizona's in flooded, Shattle Seattle. You know who knows, honestly, 2211 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:13,920 Speaker 3: who knows what? 2212 01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:17,400 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold? You know what? 2213 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:17,800 Speaker 5: Man? 2214 01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,719 Speaker 3: Shannon Han's a great offensive mine. I don't dislike Party 2215 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,680 Speaker 3: or love him as much as everybody else Doesh'm kind 2216 01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,800 Speaker 3: of in the middle of the road about Party. I 2217 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 3: always knew they were gonna pay him the same. You 2218 01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,240 Speaker 3: have to pay your quarterback. It's only a matter of time. 2219 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 3: I said. 2220 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:33,800 Speaker 1: They have a bounce back year. 2221 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:34,000 Speaker 4: Man. 2222 01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,120 Speaker 3: Most teams don't go back to back with those type 2223 01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,519 Speaker 3: of anomaly bad seasons. I'll take. I'll take. I can 2224 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,760 Speaker 3: see eleven and six out of San Francisco in the 2225 01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,160 Speaker 3: long term. Pile well, I mean, let's put it eleven 2226 01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:45,520 Speaker 3: in six out of San Francisco. 2227 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:49,600 Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. Jed York, the owner of 2228 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,439 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers for him to sign off on 2229 01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:59,720 Speaker 1: this deal. Basically told both Shanahan and Lynch, if this 2230 01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 1: does and work, yeah, you're gone. You're gone. 2231 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:02,120 Speaker 3: You're gone. 2232 01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,840 Speaker 1: This is it. You sure you want to go all 2233 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,160 Speaker 1: in on brock Party, because that's what we're doing. You're 2234 01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 1: going all in on brock Party, who, by the way, 2235 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,680 Speaker 1: now will be paid more per game than he was 2236 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:18,839 Speaker 1: paid in total total for three years in the NFL 2237 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,600 Speaker 1: per game, more than the schedule. 2238 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,960 Speaker 3: Is very in their favor this year. I was just 2239 01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,200 Speaker 3: looking yea, yeah, pull it up, pull up and see 2240 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,000 Speaker 3: that's why with you? That's wrong with you, Chris. If 2241 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,840 Speaker 3: you look at now, I know most people, Steve, we 2242 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,559 Speaker 3: were talking before the show. You're talking to harmon schedule. 2243 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,720 Speaker 3: This schedule that I get where people come from. Where 2244 01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,160 Speaker 3: schedule I mean anything schedule. But it does give you, 2245 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,840 Speaker 3: it does give you a template to look at. It 2246 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 3: does give you a template to say, we know every 2247 01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,920 Speaker 3: year in the NFL is different. Okay, we get that, 2248 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,519 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, your schedule is 2249 01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:52,759 Speaker 3: still your schedule. 2250 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,280 Speaker 5: And if you're looking for their last six games will 2251 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,200 Speaker 5: be at home, right And if you look at even 2252 01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,680 Speaker 5: the way this season even starts, they start off or 2253 01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,439 Speaker 5: they San Francisco, they have Seattle, they have the Saints, 2254 01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:05,640 Speaker 5: and they have the Cardinals. 2255 01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,439 Speaker 1: They easily could start three and Ugh White and your 2256 01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,800 Speaker 1: Jackson Stanisville exactly, Jacksonville comes in, they can easily be 2257 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,400 Speaker 1: sitting at four. No, have you have you lost sight 2258 01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,800 Speaker 1: of the fact this was a six and eleven forty 2259 01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 1: nine er team. I haven't. And you were talking about 2260 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,120 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel who had one great year has not been that. 2261 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,240 Speaker 1: Players soon gone, and then all of a sudden you 2262 01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:31,840 Speaker 1: have Christiancioffrey constantly hurt and brock Purty guys come on, 2263 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,360 Speaker 1: he was also banged up last year. 2264 01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 3: But last year, my, my, My description of last year 2265 01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:38,960 Speaker 3: San Francisco forty ninety team is like how I think 2266 01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,040 Speaker 3: about the Boss of Celtis. They've been to two Super Bowls, 2267 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,760 Speaker 3: They've been playing a lot of football, and it just 2268 01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,680 Speaker 3: catches up to you, guys. And last year was the 2269 01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,479 Speaker 3: year it caught up to San Francisco. Guys got banged up, 2270 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,200 Speaker 3: Guys got hurt, Guys missed time that one in the 2271 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 3: case the previous three to four years where they were 2272 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:55,880 Speaker 3: ending up in the NFC Championship game in the Super 2273 01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:59,160 Speaker 3: Bowl every year twice. It catches up to you. But 2274 01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,160 Speaker 3: it gives you a chance to reset. It gives you 2275 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 3: a chance to let some veterans go, which they did. 2276 01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,040 Speaker 3: It gives you a chance to rework some contracts, which 2277 01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,920 Speaker 3: they did, draft some new guys, which they did. And 2278 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,280 Speaker 3: I and then you pay your quarterback. And once again, 2279 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,639 Speaker 3: I'm looking at this schedule. It's it's you know, at 2280 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,160 Speaker 3: the Giants, and we talked about c. J. Strott. 2281 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:17,439 Speaker 1: I think the league's caught up to CJ. 2282 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,320 Speaker 3: Strott. I never believed that CJ. Strott. I was not 2283 01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:21,880 Speaker 3: bright Shaw was the rifle number one pick. You're looking 2284 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,559 Speaker 3: at that game, sitting there on October twenty six. You know, 2285 01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,639 Speaker 3: the division is kind of up in the air late 2286 01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,400 Speaker 3: in the year at Cleveland, Tennessee, Indiana. 2287 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,519 Speaker 1: Okay, but you're again there, here's the bear. Yes, to 2288 01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 1: get a fourth place schedule. But we're under the assumption 2289 01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,840 Speaker 1: that last year was an anomaly. I am not okay, 2290 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,679 Speaker 1: I am I'm not so sure it was an anomaly. 2291 01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:44,200 Speaker 3: I like eleven. I can I can see them at eleven. Look, 2292 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,040 Speaker 3: the team that won this division was ten and seven 2293 01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,920 Speaker 3: last year. Guys, so one that these teams just blew 2294 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:49,639 Speaker 3: them away. 2295 01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:50,360 Speaker 1: Not a good division. 2296 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:52,439 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. I think the rams would be a 2297 01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:54,160 Speaker 3: lot better than they were at the bottom of a 2298 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,400 Speaker 3: very The rams might be better, but I didn't see 2299 01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,120 Speaker 3: two teams coming out of that west as well. 2300 01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:03,120 Speaker 5: I could see it much better really, right anyway, Okay, 2301 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna skip this. I I really wanted to do 2302 01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,439 Speaker 5: one on Clayton Kershaw. I just haven't figured out a 2303 01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,280 Speaker 5: good way to really do it. This was a rough 2304 01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:10,000 Speaker 5: start for him. 2305 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:11,439 Speaker 1: Tell you what. 2306 01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,680 Speaker 5: I'll keep thinking about this while we jump along to 2307 01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:18,200 Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark, who got a flagrant. Was it a flagrant one? 2308 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:22,120 Speaker 5: I believe yes, where I'm not sure why you would 2309 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,760 Speaker 5: have challenged Angel Reese who is forty four point five 2310 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 5: percent from inside five feet just let her miss the layup. 2311 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,320 Speaker 1: No, that was a purpose That was a purpose foul. 2312 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:35,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, considering how chippy the WNBA is going to be, 2313 01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 5: Kayln Clark half a flagrant by next show. 2314 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,400 Speaker 1: Well, they're not playing Chicago again, that's true, she said, 2315 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,280 Speaker 1: I'd say, under look at it was a message foul. 2316 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,360 Speaker 1: It was absolutely when Kayln Clark last year, you know, 2317 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,800 Speaker 1: having this sort of you know, easier way with all 2318 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,960 Speaker 1: the negativity coming out of the w NBA this year, 2319 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,760 Speaker 1: Gloves are off. Gloves are off for Caitlin Clark. She's 2320 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,080 Speaker 1: looking around the WNBA and reminding them, you need me 2321 01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:05,000 Speaker 1: way more than I. 2322 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:10,120 Speaker 3: Know what I'm gonna go over on this, And I say, yep, 2323 01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,559 Speaker 3: and I think she should. And I'm not the biggest 2324 01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,000 Speaker 3: Kaitlan car fan. I'm just looking at her as an athlete. 2325 01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:18,120 Speaker 3: I think it's in her best interest to be chippy. 2326 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,000 Speaker 3: I think it's in her best interest to say, Okay, 2327 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 3: you know what, Like you said, maybe I tried to 2328 01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:22,960 Speaker 3: play a little nice. 2329 01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,320 Speaker 1: You guys aren't gonna play nice right in your life, right. 2330 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,559 Speaker 3: You can only be nice to somebody long enough before 2331 01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,479 Speaker 3: you go off. Okay, buddy, if this is what we're doing, 2332 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,719 Speaker 3: if this is how you want to be with me, okay, 2333 01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,920 Speaker 3: I could be just I could be just as chippy 2334 01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:37,840 Speaker 3: or just as much as a jerk, or just as 2335 01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 3: mean or just as now. It may not be always 2336 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:42,160 Speaker 3: the right, just way to live. They won that student 2337 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,360 Speaker 3: rights to take in life right. 2338 01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:44,920 Speaker 1: They won that game by thirty five. 2339 01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:46,519 Speaker 3: No, I mean she listened. First of all, she looked 2340 01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,040 Speaker 3: great Yesterdaykaylea look great yesterday. She's legit she's gonna be 2341 01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,160 Speaker 3: a star in this league. She's gonna win multiple MVPs, 2342 01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,040 Speaker 3: and she's gonna win championships in this league. I'm like 2343 01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,000 Speaker 3: I said, and I'm not even the biggest Kaitlan car fan. 2344 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,160 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at it as a sports date. I 2345 01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,360 Speaker 3: think she picks up another flavoring because I think other 2346 01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,760 Speaker 3: players are going to continue to come at her. She's 2347 01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,439 Speaker 3: gonna have to retaliate and she's gonna catch yourself another 2348 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,439 Speaker 3: flavor one Yeah, gloves yeap, gloves her off. If I'm hurt, 2349 01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,760 Speaker 3: stay chippy, and let's just do a bonus one real quick. 2350 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,280 Speaker 3: I threw and I mentioned Kershaw. 2351 01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,960 Speaker 5: He needs thirty strikeouts for three thousand and five earned 2352 01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,200 Speaker 5: runs last start over under I don't know, let's just 2353 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,720 Speaker 5: say three and a half earned runs in his next start. 2354 01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:25,400 Speaker 3: Oh over Yeah, he's the man. 2355 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,160 Speaker 2: I have to say more and a half, honestly. 2356 01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean the pitch that he threw that was hit 2357 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:33,800 Speaker 1: for a home run like eight miles, that thing is 2358 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,040 Speaker 1: still in orbit. That was eighty five mile an hour 2359 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,479 Speaker 1: something that was right over the middle. I think he's 2360 01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:43,599 Speaker 1: can hit thirty thousand strikeouts. They'll get you mean three 2361 01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,560 Speaker 1: thousand strike excuse me, yes, three thousands. 2362 01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,880 Speaker 2: He will, yeah, thirty, he'll get the thirty strikeouts. 2363 01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:51,160 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be ugly. 2364 01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:53,559 Speaker 3: It's gonna be and it's gonna take all year. 2365 01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,920 Speaker 2: He's got eleven twenty five in take all year. 2366 01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:56,800 Speaker 1: He's got a five. 2367 01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,200 Speaker 3: He's got like a six or seven strikeout game in 2368 01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,120 Speaker 3: him this year. He's gonna have one of these nights 2369 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,920 Speaker 3: where people gonna go, oh, look, Kershawn's back, and that'll 2370 01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,120 Speaker 3: take a little chunk out of it. 2371 01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,280 Speaker 2: But it's it's hard to watch for strikeouts here. 2372 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 1: Old I think at this point is just kind of 2373 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,360 Speaker 1: the it's it's the it's the career. 2374 01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know, I'm gonna change my mind under 2375 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:18,200 Speaker 3: Under he could because he'll get hurt again. He'll get her, 2376 01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,200 Speaker 3: he'll get hurt and he'll get put on the d L. 2377 01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:22,639 Speaker 1: And that'll take some of his surgery. 2378 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:23,960 Speaker 3: That'll take some of it. Starts away. 2379 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,920 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, good stuff, good stuff, Chris. 2380 01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:27,439 Speaker 3: I like this one. 2381 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right. We need to find out what's 2382 01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:34,200 Speaker 1: trending right now because Monsey's standing by Moncey is another 2383 01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,880 Speaker 1: one you agree with us on Caitlin Clark. Like last year, 2384 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,160 Speaker 1: she's sort of had an easier way into the league. 2385 01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,599 Speaker 1: Really take a lot of crap, and this year she's like, 2386 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,240 Speaker 1: that's over. This year stayed chippy, right, Yeah, I mean 2387 01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:47,799 Speaker 1: that was that was a jepanie. 2388 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,160 Speaker 6: But yes, she should stand her ground more than she 2389 01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 6: did last year. 2390 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:55,639 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I love the fact that when she blatantly hacked 2391 01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,680 Speaker 1: Angel Reese and then she turned her back and like. 2392 01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:01,120 Speaker 7: Walked away because it wasn't a flacker and foul and 2393 01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,520 Speaker 7: an Angel ree reacted with the flop to the foul, 2394 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:05,760 Speaker 7: that was a flop. 2395 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:06,759 Speaker 6: And she reacted. 2396 01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,000 Speaker 7: And to say that there is not a high tensions 2397 01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,400 Speaker 7: when those two play would be a lie. I don't 2398 01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,120 Speaker 7: think Angel Reyes reacts like that if somebody else fails her. 2399 01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:16,840 Speaker 6: I think she got hacked in the head last year. 2400 01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,960 Speaker 1: She made I think Clark is I'm tired of carrying you. 2401 01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,800 Speaker 3: I think they truly don't like each other. I think 2402 01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:31,000 Speaker 3: those two ladies do not like each other, which is fine. 2403 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,559 Speaker 6: Just don't don't tell me that, and tell me one 2404 01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:36,000 Speaker 6: of us are. 2405 01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 1: Believing that she looks at Angel Reese as someone that's 2406 01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,240 Speaker 1: latched herself onto her. To get that, I. 2407 01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:44,960 Speaker 7: Will say that even if you think that Angel Reese 2408 01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,080 Speaker 7: latched herself onto her. 2409 01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,479 Speaker 6: It wasn't Angel Reese who did that. Everyone else did that. 2410 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:49,760 Speaker 3: Everybody else, do you know what I mean? 2411 01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,000 Speaker 1: And then like the problem is for Angel Reess, she's 2412 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,679 Speaker 1: a good enough She let the league rebound. 2413 01:49:53,800 --> 01:50:00,960 Speaker 7: Absolutely, she absolutely, And I I like that she has 2414 01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:02,360 Speaker 7: that tough mentality. 2415 01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:03,880 Speaker 6: I like that about Angel rees you. 2416 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:04,679 Speaker 3: Know what's Baltimore. 2417 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, like absolutely, I like all that about her. But yeah, 2418 01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,040 Speaker 6: you know that that whole thing, Yeah, don't. 2419 01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:10,680 Speaker 3: They don't like it. 2420 01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,880 Speaker 6: They don't like each they don't like each other. And 2421 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:14,840 Speaker 6: that's okay, And that is not a big deal. 2422 01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,680 Speaker 1: Guys. We got a blowout going on right now. 2423 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:18,639 Speaker 6: I don't know about a blowout. 2424 01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:20,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, But you know what's crazy is in the first quarter, 2425 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,960 Speaker 7: the Nuggets were shooting about fifty eight percent from the field. 2426 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,639 Speaker 7: They are now down to thirty seven percent from the field. 2427 01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,040 Speaker 7: They've kind of gone cold in this second quarter. They 2428 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,360 Speaker 7: have been outscored by the Thunder thirty five to seventeen. 2429 01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:34,120 Speaker 7: And we're coming down to the final minute of the 2430 01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,800 Speaker 7: first half and the Thunder are just pulling away. 2431 01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:39,320 Speaker 6: So right now the score is fifty six to forty three. 2432 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:43,360 Speaker 7: Again, final minute of the first half, Shay Gilges Alexander 2433 01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,719 Speaker 7: possible MVP. He's got ten points, but it's Jalen Williams 2434 01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 7: who's got fifteen points for the Thunder to lead them 2435 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,799 Speaker 7: right now. For Denver, Nicole Jokic has fourteen points, Christian 2436 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:57,080 Speaker 7: Brown has twelve points, and Aaron Gordon he's played sixteen 2437 01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,920 Speaker 7: minutes on that Grade two hamstring strand there's been moments 2438 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,080 Speaker 7: where it looks like a tweak here and there, you could. 2439 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:03,280 Speaker 6: Just see it. 2440 01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,960 Speaker 7: He's got eight points and eight rebounds so far in 2441 01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,560 Speaker 7: this one. And yeah, so we're gonna head to have 2442 01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:11,120 Speaker 7: time with Thunder with a large lead. There is another 2443 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,839 Speaker 7: game seven later today on the ice between the Panthers 2444 01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:14,840 Speaker 7: and the Maple Leaves. 2445 01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,880 Speaker 6: Don't forget that one. We'll check in. And baseball going 2446 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:18,400 Speaker 6: on right now. 2447 01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:20,679 Speaker 7: The Cubs have added some more runs against the White Sox, 2448 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,719 Speaker 7: five to one, top of the eighth inning. The Giants 2449 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,000 Speaker 7: have scored first against the A's. It's one zero after 2450 01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:28,000 Speaker 7: two innings. The Angels looking to sweet the Dodgers what 2451 01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,559 Speaker 7: zach Neto and Taylor Ward have both homeward for the Angels. 2452 01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:33,479 Speaker 7: They're up on the Dodgers three zero, top of the 2453 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,719 Speaker 7: second inning, the Diamondbacks on the scoreboard one zero against 2454 01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,599 Speaker 7: the Rockies at home. Top of the second as well, 2455 01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:41,680 Speaker 7: Fernando Tattoos Junior put the Padres on the scoreboard with 2456 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:43,960 Speaker 7: a solo shot, so they're up on the Mariners one zero, 2457 01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,439 Speaker 7: bottom of this second inning. The games that have wrapped 2458 01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,160 Speaker 7: up well, the Brewers, they snapped the twins thirteen game 2459 01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,360 Speaker 7: winning streak. They had a five to two win. The 2460 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,880 Speaker 7: Phillies edged the Pirates one zero, and the Astros did 2461 01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,600 Speaker 7: top the Rangers four to three. The Nationals defeated the 2462 01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,840 Speaker 7: Orioles ten four, so Baltimore has lost six in a row. 2463 01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:01,720 Speaker 7: And the Marlins had a five to one win over 2464 01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:04,320 Speaker 7: the Rays. And something you don't see often in this 2465 01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:05,320 Speaker 7: Marlins game. 2466 01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:09,800 Speaker 6: Their picture Cal Quantrill. Yeah Quantrill. He tossed an immaculate 2467 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,080 Speaker 6: inning in the fourth inning. 2468 01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:12,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see it is yep. 2469 01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:13,880 Speaker 6: You don't see that very often. 2470 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,040 Speaker 2: Nine pitches, nine strikes, three out. 2471 01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:16,400 Speaker 6: That's it. 2472 01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:17,880 Speaker 2: One's two three doesn't. 2473 01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,280 Speaker 1: Happen often, but that that's an immaculateating. 2474 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:25,439 Speaker 3: Working from the boat, bakers, working from the I love. 2475 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,639 Speaker 7: That, yeah, because you don't see it, so it's fun 2476 01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:29,800 Speaker 7: to watch. And Scottie Scheffler is still in the lead, 2477 01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:33,320 Speaker 7: but John Rahm has cut that leads to two. Scotty 2478 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:37,080 Speaker 7: Scheffler's up ten under part overall, he is one over 2479 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,000 Speaker 7: though for today's round through eight holes and John Rahm 2480 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,800 Speaker 7: now is eight unders, so he's creeping up there. 2481 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,040 Speaker 2: Back to you guys, thank you very much. 2482 01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,400 Speaker 1: Man see by the way, uh, we'll update you on 2483 01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:51,240 Speaker 1: that golf in the second here. Reminder again, shortly after 2484 01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:52,960 Speaker 1: the show, our podcast is going up, so if you 2485 01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,840 Speaker 1: miss any of today's show, check out the podcast. Just 2486 01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 1: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Then 2487 01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:02,439 Speaker 1: follow and review the podcast again. Just search Fox Sports 2488 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,960 Speaker 1: Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see today's show 2489 01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:07,679 Speaker 1: posted right after we get off the air. So Scheffler 2490 01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:09,880 Speaker 1: right now in the ninth toll. He is one over 2491 01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,240 Speaker 1: on the day. Ram is two under on the day, 2492 01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,880 Speaker 1: so that lead is just two Deshambo can't make a putt, 2493 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,080 Speaker 1: so he's not making any kind of move right now, 2494 01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,000 Speaker 1: but we'll keep an eye on a guy that knows 2495 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,200 Speaker 1: how to win majors. Ram, of course, a Master champion, 2496 01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,639 Speaker 1: US Open champion, has not played well on Masters since 2497 01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,799 Speaker 1: he joined the Live tour, but yesterday you could see 2498 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,240 Speaker 1: some of that John Rahm where he used to be 2499 01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,360 Speaker 1: on that a list of contenders at Major's back, and 2500 01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:37,120 Speaker 1: he's playing pretty well today. By the way, didn't you 2501 01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,880 Speaker 1: tell me before the game we were talking about this 2502 01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:44,000 Speaker 1: OKC Denver Gaming. You were questioning whether OKASE had anyone else. 2503 01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,200 Speaker 1: I said, they do have another All Star Jayalen Williams 2504 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,120 Speaker 1: was an All Star this year, made his first All 2505 01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,519 Speaker 1: Star team, and right now he's their leading scorer. 2506 01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:53,840 Speaker 3: Well, you gotta have the muss halves. I call him 2507 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,400 Speaker 3: the mussouth. I know shacks like to call them of us, 2508 01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:58,240 Speaker 3: but I like to call them the muss Haves. And 2509 01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,720 Speaker 3: these the guys you must have when you're raw, that 2510 01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:04,040 Speaker 3: must have good performances and must win games Game seven. 2511 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,000 Speaker 3: I don't care what sport it is, what level is. 2512 01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 3: It's a must win game because this Game seven is 2513 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:11,240 Speaker 3: winner go home. So your must haves must have really 2514 01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 3: good games. And that's what he's doing for his team. 2515 01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,839 Speaker 3: I don't give credit for guys in the role positions 2516 01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,479 Speaker 3: or the number two option doing what you're supposed to do. 2517 01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:21,120 Speaker 3: This is what you're supposed to do. Because Shay Gills 2518 01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,680 Speaker 3: Alexander's not having like a superb super game. Four to 2519 01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,280 Speaker 3: seven from the field right now, one on one, from 2520 01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:28,719 Speaker 3: three to three or four from the line, twelve points. 2521 01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,439 Speaker 3: But he's a plus twelve right now. And you look 2522 01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,080 Speaker 3: at Jalen Williams who is eight for twelve. He's taking 2523 01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:36,800 Speaker 3: the shot, he's gunning, So they're actually getting the ball. 2524 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,120 Speaker 3: What difference doing is they're blitzing and trapping Sga and 2525 01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:41,640 Speaker 3: they're getting the ball out of his hands and he's 2526 01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,080 Speaker 3: getting it to Williams and Williams is making shots on 2527 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,960 Speaker 3: the other side. Jamal Murray, my man, wake up, bro. 2528 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,920 Speaker 3: Two for seven on a minus six on your plus 2529 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:54,040 Speaker 3: minus for four points in the first half is not 2530 01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:56,560 Speaker 3: gonna help this team and get it done. 2531 01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,520 Speaker 1: That's the bench. How about Russell Westbrook thirteen minutes of 2532 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,680 Speaker 1: some mining twenty three. Yeah, so Denver's bench. 2533 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,640 Speaker 3: Is boards though too assists he's out there. 2534 01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Peyton Watson, my former bruin eight minutes minus 2535 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,640 Speaker 1: twenty one? Why are you on the court all right? 2536 01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:13,640 Speaker 1: Coming up with the other side. Well, look ahead to 2537 01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,640 Speaker 1: these conference finals. We'll get our early predictions in This 2538 01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:23,839 Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Sunday, Hartbin and Husky. Fox Sports Sunday 2539 01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,640 Speaker 1: we are in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Want to 2540 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:33,160 Speaker 1: thank our crew today. Monsey as valuable as any member 2541 01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:41,200 Speaker 1: here the Fox Sports Radio team. Chris was per fet today. 2542 01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:45,960 Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. I've never used that before. I've been 2543 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,120 Speaker 1: sort of waiting for that one, but there it is. 2544 01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:50,280 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how long have you been holding 2545 01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:50,600 Speaker 3: on to. 2546 01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:53,400 Speaker 1: That one forever? Shay. It's definitely not the first time 2547 01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,440 Speaker 1: I've heard it either. I know that, but I had 2548 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,760 Speaker 1: not used it. Shay. 2549 01:55:58,880 --> 01:55:59,480 Speaker 3: How are we doing? 2550 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,800 Speaker 1: We're doing good, and you know, it's been interesting. It's 2551 01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,280 Speaker 1: getting a little more interesting that we now have tied 2552 01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:07,960 Speaker 1: for the lead between Scotty Scheffler and John Rahm. He 2553 01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,400 Speaker 1: has caught him. They're both at nine under. 2554 01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:10,640 Speaker 2: Park. 2555 01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:11,120 Speaker 1: Let's go. 2556 01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,200 Speaker 3: Rom made me look good, baby, appreciate. 2557 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:17,520 Speaker 1: John Rahm, who started the day five shots back of Scheffler, 2558 01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:19,520 Speaker 1: is now tied for the lead. 2559 01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,800 Speaker 3: I think he was six under and yeah, yeah. 2560 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was five shots off the lead. 2561 01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,400 Speaker 3: And this is why I question Scheffler. This is why, 2562 01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,200 Speaker 3: like you, you can't gift this up today. You had 2563 01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,280 Speaker 3: a five shot lead going in this thing and you're 2564 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,839 Speaker 3: tied now coming down to back nine. 2565 01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,200 Speaker 1: By the way, if Rom does win the PGA, he 2566 01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,360 Speaker 1: will only need one more for the career Grand Slam. 2567 01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 1: The Open Championship would be the last missing piece. He's 2568 01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,480 Speaker 1: won the Masters, won the US Open, and now trying 2569 01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:48,320 Speaker 1: to win the PGA. So I'm gonna have an exciting finish. 2570 01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,440 Speaker 1: The two great golfer. Cheffer, by the way, good news 2571 01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,320 Speaker 1: for live golf, and was as well. If rom were 2572 01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,240 Speaker 1: to win this TGA Championship. 2573 01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:58,880 Speaker 8: I have a bet out there right now for him 2574 01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,600 Speaker 8: to win the US Open. Actually really interesting. 2575 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,880 Speaker 3: I'll put I'll ride with John now when I like you, 2576 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:09,760 Speaker 3: I like I think it's great golf for big told. 2577 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,160 Speaker 1: The knock on Ram has been since he joined the 2578 01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,640 Speaker 1: Live Tour. He hasn't really shown up at the majors. 2579 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:16,480 Speaker 8: He got like he got a bag, he got some money, 2580 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,800 Speaker 8: and now he's like, you know what I want that 2581 01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:20,400 Speaker 8: Grand Slam. 2582 01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't turn that live bag. 2583 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:24,080 Speaker 3: I know there was a big thing about Live Aaron 2584 01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,880 Speaker 3: Torres and I talked about it a few years ago. 2585 01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:29,480 Speaker 3: Man about where the money comes from in this listen, 2586 01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:33,280 Speaker 3: when money when you could take care of your family generationally. 2587 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:37,080 Speaker 3: The answer is, yes, you don't turn that down. You 2588 01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:38,720 Speaker 3: take that Live golf money. 2589 01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:40,920 Speaker 1: Mane, Well, I look at it. I agree with you 2590 01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,240 Speaker 1: and the way it's looking, it's it's interesting when we're 2591 01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,920 Speaker 1: talking about the merger and Live keeps reminding the PGA, 2592 01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,360 Speaker 1: we're the ones that are gonna call the shots. We 2593 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:53,040 Speaker 1: have the money. The money will control the outcome of 2594 01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:57,040 Speaker 1: this so called merger between Live Golf and the PGA Tour. 2595 01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,920 Speaker 3: Surprise, surprise, that money's going to rule out in America. 2596 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:01,600 Speaker 3: I've never had that, never seen that before. 2597 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,920 Speaker 1: One guy, that's by the way, Matt Fitzpatrick, former US 2598 01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,720 Speaker 1: Open champion, just chipped in for an eagle at fourteen 2599 01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:12,840 Speaker 1: to get to seven under. It's getting good. It's getting good. 2600 01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:14,760 Speaker 3: This has been golf on a Sunday, Man. 2601 01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:20,000 Speaker 1: This is major championships. Great finishes on Sunday. That's what 2602 01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:21,840 Speaker 1: you want to see on the back nine. All right, 2603 01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,720 Speaker 1: let's talk about these conference finals. Obviously we don't know 2604 01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,320 Speaker 1: the West yet, but let's start with the East. I'm 2605 01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna get you on record right now. We got the Knicks, 2606 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,720 Speaker 1: we got the Pacers, which one of those two teams 2607 01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,240 Speaker 1: will advance to the NBA Finals. 2608 01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to be the Pacers, but I think I 2609 01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,520 Speaker 3: feel you on the NBA wanting to be the Knicks 2610 01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:42,480 Speaker 3: and the NBA. They just keep showing us. I don't 2611 01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:44,720 Speaker 3: like to use the word fix, but they just keep 2612 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,760 Speaker 3: showing us that fans have a reason to question. They 2613 01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:49,560 Speaker 3: just keep showing us that what the Dallas mavers is 2614 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:53,720 Speaker 3: getting the number one pick. So reluctantly, I'll much rather 2615 01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,200 Speaker 3: be right than go with my heart on this one. 2616 01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:59,520 Speaker 3: Give me the Nickson six. I just think the calls 2617 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,320 Speaker 3: are going to go down there. 2618 01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:05,640 Speaker 1: It's so funny. I obviously what I'm always trying to 2619 01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:07,520 Speaker 1: do with you is trying to get you to go 2620 01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:11,960 Speaker 1: my way. And and then you brought up the one 2621 01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,920 Speaker 1: thing about the Knicks is that the next to the Knicks. 2622 01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:18,040 Speaker 1: Let's not forget that. And so I'm gonna go with 2623 01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:21,560 Speaker 1: what you said, the Knicks are the Knicks, because it 2624 01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,640 Speaker 1: does look like it's all set up. It has to 2625 01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,640 Speaker 1: be the You're not gonna have the Pacers in the 2626 01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:30,720 Speaker 1: NBA finals. You are gonna have the Pacers in the 2627 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:31,680 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. 2628 01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:32,760 Speaker 3: And what six or seven? 2629 01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,800 Speaker 1: Are you thinking? Five? No, okay, it'll be six because 2630 01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,160 Speaker 1: Game six will be in Indiana, So that's where they're 2631 01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna close it out, all right. Western Conference does it 2632 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,960 Speaker 1: matter if OKC or Denver wins today in terms of 2633 01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:46,160 Speaker 1: your choice to win. 2634 01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:50,960 Speaker 3: The Western Minnesota team looks prime and and Ant feels like, Okay, 2635 01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,720 Speaker 3: this is my moment to have my Dwayne Wade kind 2636 01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,320 Speaker 3: of birth to the NBA. Even though they know who 2637 01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,160 Speaker 3: I am. Let me get to a finals. Give me 2638 01:59:58,240 --> 01:59:59,440 Speaker 3: Minnesota or girls who. 2639 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,160 Speaker 1: They play and se I like Minnesota as well, but 2640 02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:06,440 Speaker 1: I'll take him in six. Yeah, Indiana, Minnesota, your dream 2641 02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:10,600 Speaker 1: NBA front can't wait. Keep it here. This is what 2642 02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:11,640 Speaker 1: everyone video 2643 02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:15,720 Speaker 8: No