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Speaker 1: What a night it was, preseason game number one. The

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Speaker 1: are reacting, including us, good afternoon and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: day after the show. The day after the game, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio here at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Drive or your partner, New York. The Bills lose

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Speaker 1: game number one. But it was a fun game, Steve.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot going on, a lot of good

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Speaker 1: The two quarterbacks at the start of the first half,

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Speaker 1: Peterman and mccaren over one hundred and eight point eight

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Speaker 1: for mccaren one ten rating Forum for Peterman and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen ended up with an eighty four point five quarterback rating.

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Speaker 1: I mean it just it's almost exactly what you would

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Speaker 1: have expected if if you were um running, you know,

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Speaker 1: just that's just what you would expects, exactly what you

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Speaker 1: would expect. What do you think? What's your biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: from last night's game. That's our topic to start the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls on it eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free from outside Buffalo one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifteen. We'll read some tweets.

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Speaker 1: Sean Piantowski tweets in our offense actually produced. I was

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Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised with Marcus Murphy. It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: who lands the third running back spot. We got Marcus

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Speaker 1: Murphy coming up on the show about ten minutes from now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've seen some good things for Marcus Murphy and training camp,

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Speaker 1: and he's in a you know, a crowded field. McCoy

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Speaker 1: and Ivory top of the depth chart. Then you got

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Speaker 1: Treveris Cadet, Marcus Murphy, Taiwan Jones, Keith Ford. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: consider Taiwan Jones a return specialist, so maybe he's not

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Speaker 1: in the mix. You figure though, between Cadet Murphy and

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Speaker 1: the rookie Keith Ford, they probably keep just one of

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Speaker 1: those guys, Steve Right. Yeah, yeah, I would think so,

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Speaker 1: And it's going to come down to their contributions all

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Speaker 1: over the roster. But Murphy did have He was the

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Speaker 1: guy that raised some eyebrows last night. He kind of

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Speaker 1: burst onto the consciousness of Bills fans. Seven rushes for

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Speaker 1: thirty five. I only had long of nine yards, but

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Speaker 1: I think it was you know, Keith Ford. You know

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Speaker 1: he missed a Blitz pick up last night and got

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Speaker 1: Allan sacked. That was a mistake. But there are other

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Speaker 1: guys on the roster too, other other position groups as

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Speaker 1: well that we're gonna have to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 1: And this, and here's the simple fact of the matter.

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Speaker 1: We've already got people on the tweet sheet saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to see Josh Allen with the number one offense.

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Speaker 1: James Lemington says that Josh Allen needs to be put

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Speaker 1: with the ones. They have a fair evaluation. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well there's three guys that are playing, and what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? You think he's here's the thing, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen may play a little better if he's with the

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Speaker 1: one offensive line, but you know what, is he gonna

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Speaker 1: play better than going nine to ten? Well? You know what,

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Speaker 1: where can I sign up for James Lemington? I'm there.

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Speaker 1: I would play him with the ones against Cleveland. I

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Speaker 1: really would. Let's find out there there were I said

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Speaker 1: this the other day. I wanted Josh Allen to start.

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Speaker 1: Last night he didn't, okay, and they got good play

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Speaker 1: from the other two. Sure, I wanted Josh Allen to

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Speaker 1: start at Cleveland. If you're asking me, he would be

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Speaker 1: my choice. Doesn't start him? Play him the first half?

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna wait his turn? Though? As aja do

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Speaker 1: you have to wait his turn? He's gonna earn it.

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Speaker 1: He's got a tremendous arm, He's got the rank raw

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Speaker 1: material to play the position. What are you waiting for it?

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Maybe he'll fail, maybe he'll he'll spit up

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Speaker 1: all over his shoes against Cleveland, but I'd like to see. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, you're not it's I mean, as much

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Speaker 1: as we like to make it all about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: It's about the fifty three guys. You're trying to get

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Speaker 1: all of them ready to play against Baltimore September ninth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and maybe Josh Allen is the best. Well, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have plenty of time to do that. You got him

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Speaker 1: three more games and you got to get everybody raised.

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Speaker 1: So when it's time for him, here's the thing. When

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Speaker 1: it comes time for him, he better make it when

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Speaker 1: it hit comes his turn. If it's next week, fine,

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Speaker 1: if it's the third weekend find if it's a fourth week, fine,

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Speaker 1: But when it happens, that's gonna be his chance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I say give him his chance. And I agree

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Speaker 1: with the guy on the tweet sheet, James Lemington. Give

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Speaker 1: him his chance sooner rather than later? What do we wait?

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Speaker 1: I think I think you can wait till later for

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen because that gives him an extra week of

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Speaker 1: training camp to get better and make sure he's more successful.

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Speaker 1: If it's gonna be playing in games, then why then,

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Speaker 1: why do you poop poo the fact that I told

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Speaker 1: you should If if that you're a case, why don't

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Speaker 1: you start him? All the preseason games go four quarters?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't want him to get hurt if he

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna be healthy, you'd do it, though, if

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Speaker 1: you guaranteed me he'd be healthy. Yeah, I'd play him everything.

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Speaker 1: Start him at the beginning of the year. Yep. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's see how he plays. Well. I'm going week to

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Speaker 1: week here Gas. Last week, I thought Josh Allen should

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Speaker 1: start yesterday. This next game, a week from today, I

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Speaker 1: think Josh Allen should start playing with the ones. Let's

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Speaker 1: see what he's got, and then why don't you cut

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Speaker 1: AJ and Nate so there's nobody in his way? Well,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to cut him. You're gonna need a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback at Why if he's not gonna get hurt,

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Speaker 1: you guaranteed he wouldn't get hurt. He could get hurt.

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Speaker 1: I know that. You told me. I'm forgetting me getting hurt.

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Speaker 1: What if he stinks, then you're gonna go. Oh, then

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Speaker 1: you lose the preseason you got. Then you got two

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Speaker 1: other guys who haven't take stand you're misunderstanding. Start him

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Speaker 1: next Friday. I'm not saying start him uptemmer night. Start

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Speaker 1: him Friday playing with the ones. Do it sooner rather

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Speaker 1: than later. If he fails Okay, you got mccaren or

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman maybe maybe pretty good alternatives. But next Friday,

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Speaker 1: I'm going week to week here. I'd love to see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they will, but i'd love to see

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen starting. They're gonna start. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: start mccarroen next weekend. You're probably right. I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: Josh and then third preseason game. They'll give Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: three quarters. What do you think that's good? I don't

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Speaker 1: know that the so called dress rehearsal. See then Josh,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has had two extended and he gets the

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Speaker 1: whole second half of the Cleveland game. Then he goes

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Speaker 1: into the third game, gets the whole first half through

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Speaker 1: three quarters. Now he's had a pretty good preseason. So

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Speaker 1: in the you're saying week three the so called dress

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Speaker 1: rehearsal game. If he doesn't start either of these two,

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Speaker 1: you're ready to start Josh Allen. What does that due

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Speaker 1: to the dress rehears What do you mean? What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? Week three typically is considered the regular

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Speaker 1: season dress rehearsal. Right, if he doesn't start next Friday,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me you'd start Josh Allen against the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: It's his turn. Well, yeah, we're not in grade school here,

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Speaker 1: you know, assigning turns of people. You're trying to find

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I'm saying he's got the raw material to

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Speaker 1: be the best of the bunch. Let's find out. Let's

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Speaker 1: find out sooner rather than the finding out every day.

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Speaker 1: And they found out some things last night too, they

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Speaker 1: sure did. All right, we got Marcus Murphy, Stan, anybody

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Speaker 1: to join us. A lot more conversation with you, Steve

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Speaker 1: and I once again at odds about what they should

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Speaker 1: do with Josh Hallib But my plan is better. We'll

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Speaker 1: take a break, we'll come back. Marcus Murphy at the

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Speaker 1: big game last night. We'll join us live on set

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Speaker 1: when we return. We're rolling here till three o'clock. Did

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Speaker 1: I tell you the whole lineup? You know? Great co

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Speaker 1: Sal's coming up at one o'clock. Yeah, I did we

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Speaker 1: reset the Did we see the Twitter poll at all?

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Speaker 1: Or do we get off on that? Well, it's not

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Speaker 1: a poll. You guys overruled the poll, so you deal

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Speaker 1: with that. I'm kind of mad. No, I'm done mad.

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Speaker 1: There is no Twitter poll today. There's a Twitter question

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Speaker 1: because I was help voted by mister Tasker and our producer.

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Speaker 1: They've forgot you will thank me later. Marcus Murphy standing

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Speaker 1: body to join us. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida

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Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill Drive in Orchard Park, New York. Marcus Murphy. That

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Speaker 1: chair that's vacant next to Steve, that's Marcus Murphy's cheat

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Speaker 1: here any minute. He'll be here any minute. He was sick.

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Speaker 1: He found his way into the end zone last night.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about that. Run can find his

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Speaker 1: way and can find his way here. This is nothing. Um, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the game. What's your your take your

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from last night's Bill's loss doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: a loss. That's the beauty, beauty of preseason right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but look at what happened in this place. We've been

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Speaker 1: talking you and I, we've been talking about it every

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Speaker 1: day for for weeks now about you know, question marks

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Speaker 1: at offense. So I think the offensive line is keep

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Speaker 1: What keeps coming back to me because the quarterbacks did

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Speaker 1: look good and the reason they looked good because they

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Speaker 1: had plenty of time to throw the football um when

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Speaker 1: McCarron came in at the beginning of the second quarter

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Speaker 1: for Peterman. After Peterman finished his night, he took a

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Speaker 1: sack on the first play with a number two offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and then from that from that time on, even the

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Speaker 1: second offensive line protected him. Did a really nice job

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Speaker 1: not only in the passing game, but also they did

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Speaker 1: in the run game last night. I was kind of

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Speaker 1: hesitant to give him some praise about the running games

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Speaker 1: we watched the second the first half of it today

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Speaker 1: about now, they did actually do a pretty good job

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Speaker 1: in the run game as well, and it was with

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Speaker 1: guys like uh Murphy and and Ford and Cadet and

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Speaker 1: those guys. So they did It wasn't shady McCoy in

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Speaker 1: their running. They moved some people around and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was really a positive night in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: Certainly the defense in the second half, as the second

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Speaker 1: team defense came onto the field, there was a drop off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as you would expect for a team like Buffalo, who's

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Speaker 1: going to hang their hat on a really good defense

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Speaker 1: up front. Kind of hard to find a really good

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Speaker 1: defense to back him up. Got a call on the

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Speaker 1: line Pat and his cell has some thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo defense. Pat, go ahead, you're on the air with us.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Hey, how are you doing guys? Okay? Uh

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Speaker 1: My takeoy was partly the linebackers. Okay, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: they weren't to sink all night. They didn't do anything

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Speaker 1: at least the words any big cause or anything like that. Um.

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Speaker 1: What I was wondering about was what you guys thought

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Speaker 1: about their linebackers corps. Yeah, that's a good that's a good,

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Speaker 1: good observation. That's a good observation. I thought we were

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Speaker 1: looking for Tremaine Edmonds to come in and, you know,

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Speaker 1: and rock it all over the field. He had like

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Speaker 1: one tackle on the night. Um. I think the strength,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. The defensive line was the story

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Speaker 1: of the defense was star Low two Lele, Harrison Phillips

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Speaker 1: going in and get in a sack in his time there. Um,

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Speaker 1: and and the defensive backs. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard for this linebacking corps to play up to the

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Speaker 1: level of those of the two units that surround them,

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Speaker 1: the fronts, the front four and the secondary. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you they were a little bit non

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Speaker 1: to script last night. They made some tackles, obviously, but

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Speaker 1: short passes that Carolina threw. A couple of miss tackles

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Speaker 1: led to soon but not all those were those weren't

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Speaker 1: all linebackers. That guy's misstackle in the back end of

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Speaker 1: the defense, and I think that hurt him. And I

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Speaker 1: Pat because I thought that was probably one of the

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Speaker 1: most uh, you know, conspicuous problems by its absence, was

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Speaker 1: the linebackers. He just didn't call their names. I think

640
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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander played one maybe two series that was it,

641
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: So he doesn't figure into this equation. Milano, I think

642
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: starting on the week side, you know, he's still a

643
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: little bit undersized, I think, and that hurts them from

644
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: time to time. Julian Stanford, who's primarily a special teamer

645
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: I thought, had good plays and bad play. Steve who

646
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: seemed to be kind of a factor guy, and Dion

647
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: Lacy gets a lot of reps. So kind of an

648
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: undersized linebacker backs up Lorenzo Um again some good some

649
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: bad Tannervlejo played a lot Mike linebacker back up two

650
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: or three in the depth chart. Um, but yeah, I

651
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: agree with you, Pat, there were some issues back there,

652
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: especially as the game went along. Here is a Nick

653
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. Nick, Welcome to the show. You're on the air. Hi, guys,

654
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: thanks for taking the call. Just wanted to say that John.

655
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I get your excitement with Alan, but I totally agree

656
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: with Steve. He needs to earn it. He need to

657
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: be patient, learn his toys. Um. You know he's still

658
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: rougher on the edges yet and h we need to

659
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: work on that. And I did have another thing you

660
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: guys see Brandon Bean and and uh, the coaches and

661
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: the guys in the in the staff a lot, and

662
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you may be able to ask

663
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: them if they're ever going to bring the chills back.

664
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: I heard nothing about that. There's still a lawsuit. Lawsuit

665
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: probably not going to handle the weight, you don't. Yeah,

666
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: it's a rare occurrence when you bring your ex back

667
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: and it works out. So I'm thinking. And by the way, Nick,

668
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: thank you. That's one of nothing me. Murph, Oh, it's

669
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: a poll. We do have a poll, after all, It

670
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: is a poll. Yeah, I am excited about Josh and uh,

671
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how much good being patient will do,

672
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: but we can discuss that. All right, we're gonna take

673
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Speaker 1: a break. We're coming back. Marcus Murphy's gonna join us

674
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: when we return, Steve Tasker and me, John Murphy. One

675
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Speaker 1: Bill's Line from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

676
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. McCarron takes the sad down run. At this time,

677
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy finds a prease head for the income US

678
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: in touchdown. Touchdown Buffalo Martinus Murphy start from Adartown. There

679
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: you go the touchdown from Marcus Murphy last night in

680
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: the game against Carolina Panthers. John Murphy, Steve Tasker here

681
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: at one Life and Marcus Murphy joins us. Congratulations, Marcus

682
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: found the end zone and played a lot yesterday. I

683
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: haven't looked at the plate number, but you had a

684
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: lot of snaps in that game. Yeah, I did. It

685
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: was fun last night, you know, the first time we

686
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: got to line up against some opponents, and you know,

687
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: we came out and I think we did a good job.

688
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the touchdown for a second. I watched

689
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: it over again today. You have a little kind of

690
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: hesitation move that I think set it up. You got

691
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: a good block from new House over on that side

692
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: and a couple of others I think Wyatt Teller, But

693
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: I thought your little hesitation it was like a jab

694
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: step towards the middle and then you cut to the

695
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: outside and made all the difference in the world on

696
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: that play. Yeah, I was just trying to read the blocks.

697
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: They did a good job up front, you know, setting

698
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: it up for me, you know, and I was just

699
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: I just did a little hesitation just to freeze the

700
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: backer and I was able to walk in. Yeah, they

701
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: did a nice job up front for you on that.

702
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about the offensive line because in

703
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: all new faces up there and they're trying to find

704
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the right five. We thought they played extremely well and

705
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: you you're the biggest beneficiary. You led the team in

706
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: rushing with thirty five yards seven carries. You know, talk

707
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: a little bit about the vibe going out because this

708
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: is the first time this team has hit the field.

709
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: What it feels like. It feel good just as an offense.

710
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: You know, we've been working all camp. We've been trying

711
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: to you know, just stack the days and just continue

712
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: to you know, work hard. Pushing up front, you know,

713
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: get some blocks in and just executing the run game

714
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: in the past game, and I think we did good.

715
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, we still have some work to do, but

716
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: I think we did good for the most part. Marcus,

717
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: You've been around the league a little bit with the

718
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: Saints for a couple of years and played considerably thirteen

719
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: games with the Saints couple of years ago, with the

720
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: Jets a little bit last year. Do you handicap you

721
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: know the picture running back knowing you know, you're You're

722
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: got Lasaun McCoy, you got Chris Ivory, and then it's

723
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: you and a bunch of guys, right, And when you

724
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: look at that a lot when you're in training camp

725
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: or even coming out of last night's game. I mean,

726
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: we have a very talented running back group. Um. You know,

727
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of vets in the room. You know. I

728
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: just try to learn a lot from those guys, um,

729
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: and just come out and work hard every day. Um.

730
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: You know, you really try not to look at the

731
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: depth chart and things like that, you know, just I

732
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: focus on controlling what I can control and just making

733
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: the best out of each day and just getting getting better.

734
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: One of the things coming to this game. Nobody knew

735
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: at this offense was gonna look like. And we've been

736
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: talking a little bit order in the show, but a

737
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: lot of different people, a lot of different formations, a

738
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: lot of shifts bringing you, splitting you guys out and

739
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: then bringing you back in for the snap. But it

740
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: all seemed to go. We didn't see too many guys

741
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: messing that up. That takes a lot of time and

742
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: a lot of reps. Yeah, we've been working hard and

743
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: then and that comes to focus. You know, we will

744
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: focus just day in and day out, you know, just

745
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: working on the smaller things, the technique, the fundamentals, and

746
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: just applying it on game day. And I think we

747
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: did well. Like I said, we still have some some

748
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: rooms in some areas to improve, but I think we

749
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: did good for the most part. It seemed like watching

750
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: last night's game that maybe it was a little bit

751
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: of a window into what coach day Bole is. The

752
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators trying to put in there kind of a diverse,

753
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: multi faceted approach, a lot of substitutions, and that keeps guys,

754
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: even backups, death guys on their toes. I would think

755
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: not knowing like hey, now I'm in this package right right,

756
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: and you know, just everyone I think it's like all

757
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: hands on deck type of offense. You know, we have

758
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons, we have a lot of guys

759
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: we can get the ball to in space, and you

760
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys that can do good things,

761
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: you know. So I I like how he kind of

762
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: rotated everybody and got a lot of opportunities for everyone.

763
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: Big thing coming out of preseason always you came out

764
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: all right, But I was asking before you came out

765
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: all right. No bumps, bruises or shaving nicks or anything

766
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: like that. No, just the typical you know after game shortness.

767
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, took a couple of hits, But I'm good. Marks.

768
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: You must feel pretty good last night. You know, people

769
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: watch and saw how you can't contribute to this roster,

770
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: but you did that last year New Year's even in

771
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: the finale at Miami. You must feel like I know

772
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: what I have and I've shown these guys there's coaching

773
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: staff what I have to offer based on your performance

774
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: last year against the Dolphins. Um, I mean, like I said,

775
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just want to come out

776
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: and every opportunity that I get, I just want to

777
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: take advantage. Of it. I work hard every day, day

778
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: in and day out in practice, just learning everything that

779
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I can from the older guys, taking notes and just

780
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: trying to apply it to my own game. So any

781
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: time that I get the chance, I just want to

782
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: be able to make a play. When you guys head

783
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: back to Saint John Fisher, we had back Sunday or

784
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Saturday night for Kurfey. Let's talk about the return work

785
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: just in the remaining a couple of minutes we have it.

786
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: You hear, Marcus, a lot of work on punt returns,

787
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: But you did that punt returns for the Saints two fifteen.

788
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: You brought back twenty eight including a seventy four yard touchdown.

789
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: So that's nothing new for you running back punts, right, Yeah.

790
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I did that a lot in college and even coming

791
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: into the NFL my rookie season. My second season, I

792
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: was doing punt returns and kick returns for the Saints.

793
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, I'm kind of comfortable back there. Um,

794
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: special teams is a big part of my game. Um,

795
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, I just try to make a play whenever

796
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: I have the ball in my hands, and you know,

797
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: if it's on special teams or offense. I just want

798
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: to be a playmaker. Kick returns in your resume a

799
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: little bit too. And you were back there on some

800
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: kick returns yesterday. Yes, sir, he threw me back there.

801
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, I was. I was. I was happy that

802
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I got the opportunity. And I mean we really didn't have,

803
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of kick return opportunities to bring

804
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: it out. But you know, just being back there it

805
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: felt good. What are the early returns? I say that,

806
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: what are the early fun what's the early opinion about

807
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: how this new kickoff is gonna be? What? What's up?

808
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: Did Danny Croftsman say, was the vibe coming off the field? Well,

809
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we only had one opportunity to bring it out,

810
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: so you know, it's kind of still hard to just Um,

811
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: it's still in the air. Um, We're about to go

812
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: to meetings now and you know, kind of figure out

813
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: the things we need to work on, but you know,

814
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: it's still kind of you know, we're still still a

815
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: working process progress. Hey Marcus, before we let you go,

816
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: I want to ask you. In high school, you grew

817
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: up outside Dallas De Soto High School, a little bit

818
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: south of Dallas, Texas. You had a pretty famous high

819
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: school football teammate von Miller Farmer first round pick. You

820
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: went up against him in practice? Yeah, I did. What

821
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: was that like? It was? It was amazing. You know,

822
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from those guys. Um, he was.

823
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: He was just as good as he is now, you know,

824
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he's gotten better. But in high school,

825
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was a dog, you know,

826
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: and just going up against those guys when I was

827
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: I was young. I was a freshman and he was

828
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: a senior. So you know, going against those older guys

829
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: that helped molded me into the player. And what was

830
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: he like? A defensive end? Linebacker? He was a middle linebacker?

831
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Middle linebacker? Yeah, run all day? I bet yeah he could.

832
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: He was a middle linebacker? Andy return Keys. How did

833
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: you deal with that? And he was amazing? Yeah, Yeah,

834
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: he was a superstar. If you keep in touching him

835
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: in all y do him a cross passes? I do

836
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: um In the offseason. You know, we hook up a lot,

837
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: we hang out. Um. You know, I haven't talked to

838
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: him in a while since since we've been in counting.

839
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: But that's that's my guy. That's great. Hey continued success,

840
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: special luck last night stay healthy. Thank you. I'll try.

841
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate for having me. Yeah. Marcus Murphy, Bills running

842
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: back who had the big game last night, both in

843
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: return work and of course uh in the on the

844
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: field as a running back. Seven carries thirty five yards,

845
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: caught some passes to four catches for thirty yards. And

846
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: we thank Marcus for joining us on the show today.

847
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Marcus, John Murphy, Steve Task you're talking

848
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: about last night's game, you can join us as well.

849
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: It's not a Twitter poll today, but it is a

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Speaker 1: Twitter discussion. I was overruled on my pole idea, and

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Speaker 1: I seem a little aunty about that. Yes, what's your

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from the Bills first preseason game against the

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Speaker 1: Panthers twenty eight twenty three loss? But what do you

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Speaker 1: take away from it? Give us a call, let us

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Speaker 1: know what you think. Eight oh three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: or on Twitter. You can reach us on Twitter. Let

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Speaker 1: us know what you think. From the tweet sheet from

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Speaker 1: Wandering Jack, a frequent Twitter contributor. Here he says, as

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Speaker 1: I hoped yesterday starting oh line looked like it will

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Speaker 1: be Okay, that is a huge relief. Also with their

862
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: play last night, neither aj nor Peterman are going down

863
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: without a fight. Could be a few weeks before we

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Speaker 1: have an actual leader in the clubhouse for starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Could be, could be. Yeah, And let me say this too, Steve,

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Speaker 1: we got one game, one game of evidence here on everything,

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Speaker 1: the way the starting offensive line plays, the quarterback battle.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to draw too many conclusions based on

869
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Speaker 1: one preseason. I don't want to talking to circle and

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Speaker 1: come back to where you think. I'm agreeing with you

871
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. But you gotta do you kind of

872
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: gotta start thinking about well. And Sean McDermott alluded to

873
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Speaker 1: it in our production meeting last last week last Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: he didn't want this decision about the quarterback to linger. Yeah,

875
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't have any clarity now either. I mean it

876
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: gets murkier now, Yeah, in a good way. And Kelso

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Speaker 1: brought that up second half. He said, well, are you thinking,

878
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Speaker 1: I guarantee it's not any easier now for them to

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Speaker 1: make the quarterback decision. And I said, and I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you it's it's a much more pleasant decision based on

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Speaker 1: what we saw last night. Well, it does not like

882
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: your dreading making that decision, right right, You're not just

883
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: it's not It doesn't seem like it's the lesser of

884
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: two evils now right, you feel like you've got a

885
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: good choice for both of them. But nevertheless, and I

886
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Speaker 1: get back to it again, you don't want to get

887
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Speaker 1: two guys half ready to play your opener against Baltimore.

888
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Speaker 1: You've got to get one guy ready. Um And Sean

889
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: McDermott said he doesn't want this decision to go on.

890
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: They got to make it. And you know, one one

891
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: preseason game. Yeah, okay, you don't want to make the

892
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Speaker 1: decision now, but man, after Cleveland, you got to start

893
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: thinking about ll think about it in the East terms too.

894
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: And we got a couple of calls on this. If

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Speaker 1: you're the coaching staff here, you might, you know, look

896
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Speaker 1: at the video over this weekend and say, look, we

897
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: got good word from Peterman in the first preseason game,

898
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Speaker 1: we got good word from mccaren. We kind of know

899
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Speaker 1: who they are. There's NFL tape, there's NFL evidence who

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Speaker 1: they are. We have this other guy seventh overall, pick

901
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Speaker 1: a big, strong arm, amazing potential, the future of the franchise.

902
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Speaker 1: He is all of that, Josh Allen, and we don't

903
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Speaker 1: know whether he can you know, we don't know how

904
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Speaker 1: good he can be. So let's find out sooner rather

905
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: than later, you know what I mean? If they wait,

906
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Speaker 1: you would wait and be patient with McCarron or Peterman

907
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: because you kind of know who they are. With Josh Allen,

908
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Speaker 1: maybe he takes off like a rocket if he plays

909
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Speaker 1: with the ones. That's why I'm looking for him to

910
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Speaker 1: start the question how good can he? How fast can

911
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: he get good? Yeah? He's not good. Now he's okay.

912
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Speaker 1: He shows flashes and he you know, he you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of feel like, yeah, okay, I see the

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Speaker 1: seventh rent pick, you know, but how fast can he

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Speaker 1: get good? Let's find out? That's what I said. Anam

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Speaker 1: on the line from Derby Annam, what do you say? Hey, guys? Uh?

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Speaker 1: First off, John and Steve loved the show. I'd like

918
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Speaker 1: to weigh in on the Alan debate. Definitely I agree

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Speaker 1: percent with John. Uh. Start aling the first half in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: get him some first team reps, take that Ferrari out

921
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Speaker 1: of the garage. Thought that Josh are in the playing

922
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Speaker 1: time with what he did with the third team. I

923
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Speaker 1: was at the game last night, and you know, I

924
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Speaker 1: was most impressed with his pocket presence with that third team,

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Speaker 1: even with the line failing. Um. You know, see what

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Speaker 1: mccaron and Peterman do with less clean pocket, you know,

927
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Speaker 1: in playing with the second and the third team, and

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Speaker 1: then give him give him the third game and uh

929
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Speaker 1: with the Bengals. I think that Alan needs some first

930
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: team reps. We want to see what he can do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's the favorite opinion. All right, yeah,

932
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I see it, and it makes good sense

933
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Speaker 1: when you when you say it, like like Adam just

934
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Speaker 1: did you want to see what he can do when

935
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Speaker 1: he's not harried by an unclean pocket. And I will

936
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Speaker 1: say this, I don't know if you saw him. I'm

937
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Speaker 1: sure he did. He completed a really nice pass over

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Speaker 1: the middle, took a shot right on his sternum, kind

939
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: of bent him over a little bit, but he stood

940
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Speaker 1: right back up and went back down the field. But

941
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Speaker 1: I know in the NFL, ultimately your quarterback is going

942
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: to be asked to stand there with a guy running

943
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: right at him and not to run away, but to

944
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: throw the ball and take the hit. And he did

945
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: that last night, first game out, first quarter of his

946
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Speaker 1: first game, first couple of series. I mean, he took

947
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: a shot where he had to stand in the face

948
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Speaker 1: of a rush and get hit right in his chest,

949
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Speaker 1: and it didn't feel good. You could tell his body

950
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: language told you that he kind of got a little

951
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: something on that hit. But he stepped right back in

952
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: the huddle and called the next play and then he

953
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: went on. So I was that was one of the

954
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: things I was probably most impressed with, certainly his arm strength,

955
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: but I kind of knew that we'd been watching in practice.

956
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: That's something I hadn't seen, and that was that was

957
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: his impressive anything he did last night. Call here from

958
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Steve in Ohio. Hello, Steve, welcome, you're on the air

959
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: with us. Hey, guys, it's supposed to you yesterday, Steve,

960
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: God blast you. I hope you don't feel like you're

961
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: getting beat up. But I gotta go with the last

962
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: Taulers till I was away from the TV first second.

963
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: But here's my case. He earned the right because he's

964
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: the number seven draft sick in all of the NFL.

965
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: He is the ferrari you find out more about mccaron

966
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: even though we all know that they have history. There's pay,

967
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: but you will know if they they got to play

968
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: against the twos and three. I think Alan must play

969
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: against Cleveland. He must lay him against the one. He

970
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: needs to throw to Clay. He needs to have Shady

971
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: or have one or the other guys. He's gotta have this.

972
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: It's uh, these guys are twelve months players the old

973
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: days where you see the Bills on Friday Night and

974
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: you know Luca Collons having to be earn a club

975
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: or something. They how the game is gonna be Sunday,

976
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: it's the start. But agree, Well, here's the thing. Yeah,

977
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: and I get it, but here's my take as well.

978
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and I hear what you're saying, and I

979
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. You want to see him, Uh, but you know,

980
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen needs to play to get better. Josh Allen

981
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: needs some reps with the ones. Josh Allen needs to

982
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: practice more with the ones. But you know what, you know,

983
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: the team needs the guy that's going to give him

984
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: the best chance to win, and the team needs a

985
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: quarterback who can do it while everybody else is getting

986
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: better around him. If you're gonna start altering your entire

987
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: practice and it's not just pulling one quarterback out and

988
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: plugging another one in. UM. If you want to alter

989
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: your plan because one guy happens to be UM, you

990
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: know uh. Because here's the thing. Football teams have guys

991
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: that are physical specimens on him all the time. Every year.

992
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: You've got these guys that look the part I mean,

993
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: and I like last night, Logan Thomas had a really

994
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: nice game down inside. I mistake I said he used

995
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: to be a basketball player, not a basketball player. Used

996
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback, which is almost like a basketball player.

997
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: But so that's why I was so bummed. I thought

998
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: I stunk on the broadcast light. I was so bummed.

999
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: But but Logan Thomas, who's a physical specimen, a tall, rangey,

1000
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: huge athlete that used to play quarterback and is now

1001
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: playing tied in. You've got great athletes all over your

1002
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: all over your team. They've got to do everything it

1003
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: takes to play their position. Just because they're big and

1004
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: strong doesn't make them automatically a starter. They gotta play,

1005
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: and they got to do everything that everybody else does

1006
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: to earn their spot on the roster, just like Josh

1007
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: Allen does. Now. Being the seventh pick doesn't earn anything.

1008
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: It gets you a spot in camp, that's it. It

1009
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: doesn't earn you a spot on the depth chart. You

1010
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: have to not your draft status. But I'm with you

1011
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: everybody time to tell you how wrong they think. Oh,

1012
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: because we gotta get to a break. We're coming back

1013
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: with more. Greg Cosell from NFL Network from He'll join

1014
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: us in a moment, from NFL Films, I should say,

1015
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: and ESPN's inside the NFL is what I'm really trying

1016
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: to say. Greg Cosell breaks down some of the quarterback

1017
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: performances last night for the Bills and others. He's coming

1018
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: up next. More of your phone calls to One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bills Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Hills Radio Network Stories. It was a preseason loss,

1021
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: but a pretty good performance by the Buffalo Bills, Game

1022
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: one of the preseason Carolina Panthers scored three second half

1023
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: touchdowns to come from behind and beat the Bills twenty

1024
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: twenty three a crowd of sixty one thousand last night

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00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: at New Air of Field. The Bills encouraged my strong

1026
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Speaker 1: performances from all three quarterbacks, each of whom engineered a

1027
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: touchdown drive during their time on the field. The Buffalo

1028
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: offense was multiple and efficient. New offense coordinator Brian Daball

1029
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: calling the place from upstairs. Bills players working here at

1030
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: one Bills Drive today conditioning and rehabbing. The morning meetings

1031
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: right now, practice late this afternoon. They are off tomorrow

1032
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: and then back on the field of Saint John Fisher

1033
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: for training camp on Sunday two fifteen pm. Practice Sunday.

1034
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Speaker 1: You do need to take it to at ten go

1035
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Speaker 1: to our website Buffalo Bills dot com for the Tails

1036
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: preseason football. Two more games Tonight seven thirty. The Atlanta

1037
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Speaker 1: Falcons played the Jets in New York at a ten

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Speaker 1: thirty Tonight, It's the Lions and the Raiders out west

1039
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: in Oakton. Colts quarterback Andrew Lux says, I really had

1040
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: fun his first game last night against Seattle. He did

1041
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: not play at all. It was his first game in

1042
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: two seventeen. Lux first game since Week seventeen of the

1043
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen season. He did a good job after that

1044
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: right shoulder injury kept him out last year. Baker Mayfield,

1045
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, showed why the Browns made

1046
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: him the first overall pick. He replaced the Browns quarterback

1047
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Tyron Taylor late in the first quarter threw two touchdowns

1048
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: and two plus quarters to help the Browns beat the

1049
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Giants last night twenty to ten. The NFL says they

1050
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: found a deflated football from last night's preseason game in

1051
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh between the Steelers and the Eagles. All footballs were

1052
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: in compliance following the pregaming inspection. They found one bad

1053
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Speaker 1: one and they are looking into it. More. Raiders defensive

1054
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Speaker 1: onen Khalil Mack continues his hold out. He will not

1055
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Speaker 1: be in the team's camp today. That means he'll be

1056
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Speaker 1: find eight hundred and fourteen thousand dollars. Buffalo Baseball Hall

1057
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Speaker 1: of Fame Committee with two new members of the Buffalo

1058
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Tonight, former Bison's manager Marty Brown will

1059
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Speaker 1: be inducted along with former Bisons pitcher Joe Rowa. They'll

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Speaker 1: be formally inducted during Hall of Fame ceremonies during the

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00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: game tonight against Toledo seven or five in the PGA

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Speaker 1: Championship Round two, and Kevin Kisner of the US is

1063
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Speaker 1: the leader. He is at the nine hunder par through

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Speaker 1: a fifteen holes today. That is the update from one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker starting an hour or

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Speaker 1: two of our show the day after the Bills lost

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Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers. Joining us right now on the line.

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Speaker 1: Producer analysts from NFL Network. Senior producer for thirty eight

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Speaker 1: years at NFL Films, our regular Friday guests during the

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Speaker 1: regular season. Very happy to have Greg Cosell back on

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Speaker 1: the line with us. Hi, Greg, John Murphy, and Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker in Buffalo. How are you, Murph, Steve. Good to

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Speaker 1: be with you guys. Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's great

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00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: to have football to talk about. Twelve games last night,

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00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: you must have been totally in your element. I would think, huh, well,

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00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: I actually went down to uh the link to see

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00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Steelers last night, and then I've

1078
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: been trying to get through some tape this morning, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's that time of year. It's it's

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00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: a football time. We'll talk about what you've seen of

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Speaker 1: the Bills Carolina game here last year in New Airfield.

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00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: It's a lot of positives for Bills fans. We think

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00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: of their quarterback. The first two quarterbacks played extremely well,

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00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: high high percentage completion rate, the offensive line looked like

1085
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: they protected very well. Um, what are your thoughts here

1086
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: in the early going? I know it's hard to watch

1087
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: this tape. You got like fifteen games. You gotta watch.

1088
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: What are your impressions? Yeah, I mean, and I try

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00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: to get through as much as I can, particularly the

1090
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: important players. Um, you know, it's a good offensive performance.

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00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think overall, you're looking at the clearly

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00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, because essentially, other than Peterman, you've got

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00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: two new quarterbacks and Josh Allen the seventh pick in

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00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: the draft, and bringing in a j mccaren, So you're

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00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: looking for efficiency. I think you saw that, particularly with

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00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: the first two quarterbacks, because I think their games have

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00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: to be built purely on efficiency. With Josh Allen, I

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00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: think you're you're dealing with a little different kind of player. Obviously,

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00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: you want him to be efficient, but his ability to

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00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: make the more spectacular kind of throws in the pocket

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00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: and then the ability to get outside the pocket and

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00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: make plays is a little different than mccaren and Nathan Peterman.

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00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: But I think overall it was a strong performance by

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Speaker 1: the trio of quarterbacks. I'm Josh Allen, Greg And you

1105
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: mentioned his ability to get outside the pocket everything. You know,

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00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: we go back to the pre draft you know book

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00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: on all of these guys, and everybody said, Josh Allen's

1108
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: a good athlete. You can see that in any game

1109
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: like that, and especially when things break down a little bit.

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00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: He is elusive. He's a very good runner, and I

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00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: think that's gonna work to his benefit as he progresses

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Speaker 1: through his career, especially in the early portion of his career. Well,

1113
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: and you guys have been around him and seeing him

1114
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: up close and personal as I have. And he's a

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00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: big man now, ye, So, I mean he had that

1116
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: one play I think it ended up in an incompletion,

1117
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: but where he was under darrest and he shook off

1118
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: the pass rushers. You know, he looked like a young

1119
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger on a player like that, with his ability to

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00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: shake off the rush and at least preventing negative play.

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00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: And you know, he has that kind of size. Now

1122
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 1: there's a looseness to his game. Clearly he's a little

1123
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: bit undisciplined at this point, and you work through that.

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00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: That's where coaching comes in. Ideally, that's what you're trying

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00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: to do. You're trying to channel the physical talent that's

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00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: there because the one thing about quarterbacks that can make

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00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: plays outside of structure is to me anyway, I think

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Speaker 1: you want that to be a parachute. You want that

1129
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: to be last. You don't want that to be first.

1130
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: But I think he made some throws from the pocket

1131
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: that There are two or three I can think of

1132
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: right now where he sat in the pocket. They were

1133
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: late in the down pocket throws in looting that crossing route,

1134
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: which was a beautiful throw. And that's what I look

1135
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: for things like that. I want to see him stay

1136
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: in the pocket. I want to see him you know

1137
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: what we call a noisy, muddied pocket. You've got to

1138
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: have the ability to stand and deliver. Where do you

1139
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: see the looseness? Where do you see undisciplined on display there? Well,

1140
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: I you know, I think he does have a tendency

1141
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: to move around a little bit. I think there's a

1142
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: tendency because his arm is so strong and so inherently

1143
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: powerful that at times you just see him flick throws

1144
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: with technique and lower body mechanics that are not exactly

1145
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: what you like. And I think that's coaching as well.

1146
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: But I you know, I think the key with someone

1147
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: like Josh is he can make really difficult wow throws.

1148
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: You want to make sure that he does not miss

1149
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: the routine throws, and those throws are often the result

1150
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: of technique and fundamental mechanics. Now you've also you also

1151
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: said you've seen some of these other guys. We've got

1152
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, got sa Quon Barkley, Lamarch Jackson, Mason Rudolf,

1153
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: we got all these new guys that were drafted around

1154
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: and with Josh Allen. What have you seen from some

1155
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: of the other draft picks that look make you think

1156
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: this draft class might might turn out some really star

1157
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: football players. Well, you know, it's funny about Baker Mayfield

1158
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: because I liked Baker Mayfield coming out, And you guys

1159
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: know what I do. It's not about what kind of

1160
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: guy he is or anything like that. I'm just watching

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00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: the tape and I liked him. I mean, as I've

1162
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: told people when people ask me, if I had to

1163
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Speaker 1: rate them coming out, I probably would have had Rose

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Speaker 1: in one and Mayfield two. But I thought Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: had a real solid performance last night. He's a quick

1166
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Speaker 1: footed kid, He's got a compact delivery. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things about Mayfield is that he sees the

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Speaker 1: field well. And I know that a lot of scouts

1169
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: talk about that. Some people think you can teach that,

1170
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: others don't. But I think he sees the field. I

1171
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: was impressed too with his pocket movement. He climbed the pocket,

1172
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Speaker 1: he moved around in the pocket, He found himself off

1173
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: quieter spots to deliver the football. He maintained his vision

1174
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: down field, he reset his feet. I thought he looked

1175
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: good playing the position last night. I thought he looked

1176
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: like he did at Oklahoma. Great Andrew Luck says it

1177
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: was great to be back. He had fun last night.

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Speaker 1: What did you see, if anything, of Lux's performance with

1179
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: the Cults last night? Yeah, I mean I think it was.

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: It was again in a first performance. He was efficient.

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00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny just to bring up a name.

1182
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: You guys are. I know Steve's probably really good friends

1183
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: with him, and I know him too. But Luck talked about,

1184
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: you know how it was good to get hit. I

1185
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: remember years ago interviewing Jim Kelly, and Jim Kelly always

1186
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: told me, he said, you know what, I never felt

1187
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: like I was into a game until I took my

1188
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: first shot. And I know Steve probably knows exactly what

1189
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean when I say that, and and Andrew Luck

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00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: said that in the postgame press conference, and I think

1191
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: for guys who have been away for a while, I

1192
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: think they feel like they need to get some physical

1193
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: contact and they need to sort of feel the game

1194
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: of football as much as play the game of football.

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Speaker 1: And I think for Luck that was a big deal

1196
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: just mentally. Yeah, a lot of people who watched that

1197
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: game last night were reminded just how good he was.

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00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't look like he missed a beat. No, no.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny you say that, Steve, because for some reason,

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Speaker 1: and he was a first pick in a draft, but

1201
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: for some reason, even you know, just before he got hurt,

1202
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: there was some sense that Andrew Luck, you know, was

1203
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: not living up to expectations. And I never quite understood

1204
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: that when I watched. I've watched every drop back he's

1205
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: had in the league since he came in the league.

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: And Andrew Luck is a really good quarterback. Yeah. One

1207
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: of the other kids that was drafted number two overall,

1208
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley, who is hard to imagine having a

1209
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: better A little splash play to start your career as

1210
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: he takes a handoff and heads down the sideline and

1211
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: made what was really a kind of an individual run

1212
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 1: out of an inside dive play. Yeah, and I think

1213
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: that's what he is. You know. I think he'll have

1214
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: big runs, and I think he'll have where he gains

1215
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, a yard or two yards or minus two.

1216
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, that that first run of the game really

1217
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: showed the skill set that he has because that run

1218
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: was designed to go inside to the left and he

1219
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: saw the defense there. And so he's showing that quick

1220
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: feat that stop and start ability, that dynamic lateral quickness.

1221
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: That's what he is. You know. I think he's got

1222
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bounced mentality and when you do,

1223
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: I think you'll have big, big plays. But we'll see.

1224
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no questions he can be spectacular and

1225
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: has dynamic talent. I'm a line with Great Cosll, executive

1226
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: producer analyst for NFL Matchup, senior producer in NFL Films,

1227
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: talking about some of the performances in last night's initial

1228
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: night of preseason football. Well, you were there in Philadelphia

1229
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: and you saw Mason Rudolph for the Steelers, another quarterback

1230
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: drafted in the early rounds back in April. What did

1231
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: you see from him. What do you think of him?

1232
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: You know, Mason Rudolph's an interesting player to me, Murph,

1233
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: because he's a big kid. He looks the part um

1234
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: I always felt watching him. You know, he's not a

1235
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: big armed kid for his size. I think that he's

1236
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback that needs to be comfortable in the pocket.

1237
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: I think he needs to be protected. I think there's

1238
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: there's a rhythm to his game. But I think that

1239
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, I hate to use terms that that get overuse,

1240
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: like system quarterback, but I think he needs a good

1241
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: online and he needs to be in rhythm. Um, he's

1242
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: obviously in competition. I would assume for the number two spot.

1243
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Landry Jones has been there for years, Josh Dobbs is

1244
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: still there. Um, Mason Rudolph played I think the whole

1245
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: second half last night. Uh, you know. And I think

1246
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: the preseason will be important for him, you know, as

1247
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: Steve knows, I think the practices are really important for

1248
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: these players too. We just as fans anyway, we just

1249
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: get to see the games, but I think the coaches

1250
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: are evaluating practice is just as much. The first preseason

1251
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: game in many ways is a glorified scrimmage. But I

1252
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: think you know Mason Rudolph was he was drafted in

1253
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: the third round. When you draft a quarterback into the

1254
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: third round, you think he has a chance to be

1255
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: a starter down the road. Yeah, And certainly he's with

1256
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: an organization that's not going to hurry him along with

1257
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger there, so he's gonna have a chance to

1258
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: at least get his feet underneath him. Maybe not so

1259
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: much with Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen or Sam Darnold either.

1260
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: Talk about one of the things I hope that this

1261
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: is not off the off the map here talk about

1262
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: one of the great stories in the league, Chakim Griffin.

1263
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: From what we heard last night for the Seattle Seahawks,

1264
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: he was all over the football field. And for those

1265
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: of you who don't know, this is the guy who

1266
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: was born without a left hand. Did you get a

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Speaker 1: chance to evaluate him or hear about what he did

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Speaker 1: in Seattle? I did not get a chance to see

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Speaker 1: the tape, so I don't know specifically, but I've read

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Speaker 1: that he's had a very good camp. He's impressed a

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Speaker 1: lot of the veteran defenders there. I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: fascinated to see how he ends up getting used because look,

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: they still have the two linebackers who are really really good,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright. The style of player that

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Speaker 1: Griffin is, he's not a strong side linebacker, and that's

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01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: that's the position that it is theoretically open unless they

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Speaker 1: change their defense around a little bit. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: move kJ Wright, who is two hundred and fifty pounds

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Speaker 1: and give him more of the strong side responsibilities. But

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Speaker 1: you know, Griffin is a lighter guy. He's almost built

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Speaker 1: like a safety, even though he did play linebacker and

1282
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: rushed the quarterback in college. So it'll be interesting to

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01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: see how many snaps he gets on defense as we

1284
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Speaker 1: move along, particularly the first team defense. Yeah, he is

1285
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: an undersized guy, and he is. He's got a brother,

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: there's a twin who is a safety and he's built

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Speaker 1: like him. So he's a he's a lighter guy, and

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Speaker 1: he's not tall. But the thing that sets him apart

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Speaker 1: is obviously he's the fastest linebacker at the combine and

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Speaker 1: probably as fast as any linebacker in the league because

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Speaker 1: that's what he has to be. Yeah, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to be a linebacker. Uh, He's almost built

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Speaker 1: like a guy who's a sub linebacker Steve you know. Again,

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01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: so the question becomes, you know, can he line up

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: in your bass defense and play and take on the run?

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Speaker 1: You know, and look, he's playing in in a division

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01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Todd Gurley, You're gonna have Kyle Shanahan's offense,

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Speaker 1: which starts with bass personnel and a run game. So

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Speaker 1: it'll be interest. You know, Arizona has David Johnson, So

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01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: the question is can he line up in a bass

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Speaker 1: personnel defense and be a run defender at probably two

1302
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds. Great coasell NFL matchup on the

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Speaker 1: line with us. Another first round quarterback to ask you

1304
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: about his second preseason game, Lamar Jackson with the Ravens.

1305
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,479
Speaker 1: What did you hear about his performance in last night's

1306
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: game against the Rams? What do you know about that? Great? Well,

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01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: you would have thought, of course, Murph after his first performance,

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: that this kid couldn't play. I mean, I know so

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01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: many people had to find his entire career after the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. You know, I think he's going

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01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: to be an up and down guy for a while

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Speaker 1: because I think he's a quarterback that needs to be

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Speaker 1: coached hard. He'll make plays with his feet. Look, Steve

1314
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: knows this preseason, when no one game planned specifically, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of looseness to the style of play. Quarterbacks

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: who can move tend to look good in the preseason

1317
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: because they make plays with their legs because no one

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01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: is game planning to force them to stay in the pocket.

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01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: No one's game planning a mush rush or anything like that.

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01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: So quarterbacks who can move around will make some spectacular

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: plays in the preseason, and I would expect that from

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You saw his nine yard touchdown run. I

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01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: mean that's Lamar Jackson. Yeah, yeah, Well, okay, let's move

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: back to here, to Western New York and Buffalo. Over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, the Buffalo Bills traded the Cleveland Browns a

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Speaker 1: seventh round pick for for Corey Coleman. Talk a little

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: bit about what you know about Coleman, what your expectations are,

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Speaker 1: and what Bills fans can expect from him. Well, Coleman's

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01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: an interesting guy because he brings the dimension that you

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: can't coach, which is why he was a first round pick,

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01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: and that speed. Every team would love to have a

1332
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: vertical dimension because of what it does to the defense,

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: so that's a critical piece of any offense. The issue

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Speaker 1: you face with Coleman is where he came from. He

1335
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: played for Art Briles at Baylor, and when you watch

1336
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: Baylor tape under Art Briles, you would see, let's say

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: the play was going to the right and Coleman was

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: on the left, the receivers on the left would just

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01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: stand at the line of scrimmage. They didn't even get

1340
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. So he's not really used

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: to a full pass game concept. So he had to

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01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: be taught that. And I don't know what happened in Cleveland,

1343
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: none of us do, but obviously they soured on him

1344
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So I can't speak to whether he

1345
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: can't learn or what the issue is. But he brings

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: the dimension of speed. Now, if Josh Allen ultimately wins

1347
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: the starting job as a rookie, what you'll see, which

1348
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: you saw a little of last night, is the play

1349
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,959
Speaker 1: action pass game where they want to push the ball

1350
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: down the field because of Josh's ability to make those throws. Now,

1351
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: Coleman gives you a vertical dimension. Maybe he's the kind

1352
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: of receiver you give three routes too, and that's all

1353
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: you ask him to do. I don't know that you know,

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't been a Buffalo long enough for us to

1355
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: know how they see him. But any chance, any opportunity

1356
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: you get to get a guy with that kind of

1357
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: vertical dimension in your offense, you would at least want

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01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: to take a shot. Greg before let you go. Gonna

1359
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: take you back to Josh Allen. You may have detected

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 1: the simmering feud between mister Tasker and myself about what's

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01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: next for Josh Allen. I am of the belief, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about September ninth, opening Day. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about August seventeenth, a week from tonight, Bills at Cleveland

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Speaker 1: preseason game number two. I would like to see the Bill.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they will, but I would like

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01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: to see the Bills start Josh Allen. Let him play

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Speaker 1: with the ones, and let's see just how good he

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01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: might be. Steve disagrees, what do you think? Look, obviously

1369
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: there's two schools of thought, and there's no right or wrong.

1370
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: But I think when you trade off to draft a

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Speaker 1: guy seven, you're expecting him to be your starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: At some point you didn't you didn't do this so

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: he sits for a full year. So all I would

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Speaker 1: say is, I would like to see him start a

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Speaker 1: game in the preseason, before the fourth preseason game, because

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see how he takes a somewhat of

1377
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: a game plan. You're still give a quarterback scripted plays

1378
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: and a plan, even if it's not meant to attack

1379
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: this specific defense that you're playing against. You're still giving

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01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: him a plan, and I'd like to see how he

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: goes out and executes a plan that you've worked on

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Speaker 1: throughout the week. And when I say execute the plan,

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in all areas in the huddle, getting

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: the team in and out of the huddle, making sure

1385
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: everybody's lined up correctly, making sure there's no false start penalties,

1386
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: all the little things that are the nuanced elements of

1387
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: quarterback play. So whether it's this week or the following week,

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Speaker 1: I would like to see him start a game. It's

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: not a knock on the other players, but you did

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01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: trade up to get him. I'd like to see him.

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: You know, I have the chance to go through that process.

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Speaker 1: Greg's you're way too thoughtful and logical for our show,

1393
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: and thank you for coming on. Thanks Greg. Good to

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: talk here. We'll be talking every week I think from

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Speaker 1: now on. Thanks very much for show, guys. I look

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Speaker 1: forward to him too. Greg co Sell on the line

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Speaker 1: with this executive producer analysts NFL Matchup, senior producer of

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01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: NFL Films. I think he agrees with me by the

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Speaker 1: way I do. I'm not going to put words in

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Speaker 1: his mouth, but as he said, you want to you

1401
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: want him to start with the ones if you believe,

1402
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: which most people do that. So he's season game, let

1403
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: me finish preseason game number three is dress rehearsal. Maybe

1404
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: he's not ready to start September night. So next week,

1405
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: next Friday, week to night is the time. I'm not

1406
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: saying throw him to the Wolves. He's starting against the Ravens.

1407
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying next week he should start play with the ones.

1408
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: See what you got. If he's not up to it,

1409
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: you can always go back to McCarron and or Peterman.

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: I know that's what. I understand exactly your point, and

1411
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: don't distort it. I am not trying to distort it.

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: You act like I If I understood you better, I

1413
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: would agree, and I don't. You don't understand or you

1414
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: don't agree. I both. I do understand, but I don't agree. U. Yeah,

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01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: I get it. You do want to see him with

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: the ones. I don't know if you want to give

1417
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: him a preseason game because it's too valuable to all

1418
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: the guys involved. And once again, I go back and

1419
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: we've got a couple of guys on Twitter that are

1420
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: chiming in, and sometimes you get some really good ones.

1421
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: And listen, you don't demote McCarron and Peterman. They played great,

1422
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,959
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't suspend what they're in the middle

1423
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: of trying to get ready to play on September ninth.

1424
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: In order to see what Josh Allen's got with the ones.

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: You might give him, start giving him some reps with

1426
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: the ones in practice if it goes well, if you

1427
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: put him in some tough situations in practice and goes well.

1428
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: I like I said, I and I'm with Greg, you

1429
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: want to do it before the last preseason game. I

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it this next weekend, not when the two

1431
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you've got there played so well to this point.

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Speaker 1: I think it. I think it circumvinced the plan that

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: you're trying to get somebody ready for September ninth. Just

1434
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: to take a look at this guy because you know

1435
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: you Because let's face it, there's another aspect. These coaches

1436
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: and these players, they seen j Josh every day. They

1437
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: know he can throw like that. It wasn't a wild

1438
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: thing for them. That's what he's expected to do. It's

1439
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: all the other stuff that they want to stay away from.

1440
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: It's the heaving the ball up when he's getting tact gold,

1441
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: it's thrown it into a window, or or scrambling a

1442
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: little too quick or whatever. Some of the other things

1443
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: that maybe that we were not privy to. But I

1444
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: don't think you circumvent the process of the first two

1445
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks just because you want to see this guy throw

1446
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: the ball hard. I love Nathan Peterman as a man,

1447
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: and I liked him as a quarterback last night. I

1448
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: appreciate a J. Mccaren don't know him as well, but

1449
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: they're feelings there. It's not important to me. It's Josh Allen.

1450
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: It's Josh Allen. It's getting Josh Allen ready to play,

1451
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: getting Josh Allen right not. I cannot believe you are

1452
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: such a knee jerk fan. It's not knee jerk, and

1453
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: you just want to see you use considerable assets to

1454
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: move up to number seven to get this guy. You

1455
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: got a lot in the bank out of this guy.

1456
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: Let's find out if he can play on September night,

1457
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: and let's start to find out by giving him time

1458
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: with the Ones next week, next Friday. That's all I'm

1459
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: saying Next Friday. I'm not saying he's a lot got

1460
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: to start him against the Ravens. I'm talking about next Friday.

1461
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: I think you run the risk of circumventing guys who

1462
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: have played extremely well. And listen, it's not about Josh Allen.

1463
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: It's about the fifty three. It's about the ninety guys

1464
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: that are there. You're not gonna what are you gonna

1465
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: do with some other position. If somebody they say, you

1466
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: know what, you've been playing great, I'm gonna bench you.

1467
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: It's about winning a championship, and Josh Allen has the

1468
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: highest upside among those three and the most potential to

1469
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: win a championship. All Right, we disagree, we'll talk about this.

1470
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure because we're sick of each other. We've been

1471
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: riding the car six hours every day, or it seems

1472
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: like six hours. Sick of me. I'm not sick. I'm

1473
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: not sick of you, Steve Hey. This is an interesting topic.

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Speaker 1: It shows up on our tweet sheet and it comes

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Speaker 1: from Michael Heiman. Interesting question. Well, put question succinct to

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Speaker 1: the point. We'll talk about when we come back. Michael

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01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 1: Heiman tweeting. Are the Bills now a past first offense?

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: It's worth thinking about and talking about. We'll do that

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Speaker 1: when we come back. John Murphy, Steve Tasker not fighting.

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Speaker 1: One goes live from One Bills Drive and this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Here's the first down play and Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen throws into the end d caught touchdown. What a strike?

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: What a strike throw by Josh Allen the Ray Ray

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01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: McCloud a fourteen yard touchdown path. Josh Allen is on

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Speaker 1: real real estate needs. Sorry about that, Steve, I got

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: a beast. I'll tell you though. That throw he made

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01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: for the touchdown, he threw that through a coin slot. Yeah,

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: fifty six percent complete your percentage? Huh? That was pretty good.

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't have fifty percent last night. No, um,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about yeah, nine to nineteen

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01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: last night. Our Twitter poll is not a poll today.

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 1: Our Twitter question today, want to get your biggest takeaway

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01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: from last night's game. Give us a call eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty, or tweet in a response at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live your biggest takeaway from last night's loss

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01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: to the to the Carolina Panthers. What are you laughing about? So?

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: We got this question and we always you know, we

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: always want feedback, no question about. We gotta between that

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: last We got one hundred and thirty four notifications. Wow,

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01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: I want to know. Want to chime in on the

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: quarterback race? Quarterback Michael Heiman had a good point though

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01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: on our tweet sheet. Are the Bills a pass first offense? Now?

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01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: The reason why that question intreagues me is because again,

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: we got one game of evidence here, right. We got

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01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: a lot of preseason ago, let alone a lot of season,

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: but all we have is that one game. And there

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01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: was a point last night when I thought this is different.

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: The Bills throw it first. The Bills a couple of

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01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: times lined up empty backfield on third and short, third

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: and one third and two. Will they do that when

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: McCoy's availab We'll see, But it was different. At one point.

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01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: I actually said to somebody last night, it's almost as

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01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: if last night the Buffalo Bills took the first few

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: steps into modern day, twenty first century NFL offensive football. Seriously,

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01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: and I credit Dable in the first half last night

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01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: the Bills. In the first half, the Bills ran it

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01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: eleven times and threw it twenty times by the end

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01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: of the game as they try to get out of

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01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: it that well, at the end of the game, they

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01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: threw it thirty nine times and ran at twenty one time.

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01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: So are they in fact to pass first offense. It's

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: worth considering, and it's worth keeping an eye on moving

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: forward here in preseason. I think, Steve, yeah, I agree

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01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: with you. It is gonna be an offense that listen.

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: It's a throwing league. We've known it for three or

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01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: four years. Despite the fact that the Bills three years

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01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: ago led the league and rushing and they were top

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01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: five in the last couple of years. And Lashawn McCoy

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: is in a league running back, whether he's throwing it

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01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: where he's whether he's getting it handed to him or

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01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: catching it. They are they have been a run first team,

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01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: but it's a throwing league, and that's why you know

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01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: team it's been frustrating stretch with Tyrod Taylor's their quarterback,

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01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: and whoever the head coach was, whether it was Rex

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01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: or the first year of Sean it was, it was

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: frustrating at times because they just didn't throw it well

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: enough or efficiently enough. And Greg Cosell alluded to it,

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01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: He's right. The Nate Peterman and AJ McCarn their whole

1544
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: game is going to be efficiency. They're gonna be possession

1545
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,879
Speaker 1: type quarterbacks. They're not gonna be playmaker, off the page,

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: big play type quarterbacks. They're gonna be guys who work

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01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: the offense, and it's gonna be the offense that is successful.

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: If you get a guy like Josh Allen, it's gonna

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01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: be about Josh Allen. It's gonna be about his throws

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: and his ability to make plays. And that's that's a

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: little bit of subtle difference. But this offense, no question,

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: is gonna look way different no matter which of those

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: three guys is pulling the trigger. What's your biggest takeaway

1554
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,520
Speaker 1: from last night's preseason game. Give us a call, shoot

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: us a tweet. Here's a call from Dave and Buffalo. Dave,

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Yeah, I'd just like

1557
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: to say, is I just want Josh Allen to wait

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: maybe a year or two? Bhy whoever's gonna be? Why

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01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: two years? Because we did this with lost Men. You

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: did this as lost men, You did this with Edwards,

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: Woozy who did this? Manuel? Who? Buffalo? These experts to

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01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: saying that these guys should start started starting. He ended

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: up being failured because they didn't have enough time to

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01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: be groomed, to see what it's really like and everything else,

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: and just throwing them in into the free. I can't

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: wait two years. You can't. I guess you can. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that plug in Josh Allen. I'm September ninth.

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm repeating myself. I'm saying next week, I want to

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,839
Speaker 1: see more. I want to see if he might possibly

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01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: be ready for September ninth. You have nothing to do

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01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: with lost Man or Edwards. They can't even hold a

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01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: candle to the talent and the skill set that provides

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: I think any thoughts on that. See, well, listen, I

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: got a tweet. You can play the what if game

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: all you want, you just don't do it with a

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01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: quarterback that was so highly regarded by your franchise that

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01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 1: they made in the highest drafted quarterback in team history.

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01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you John saying, go let's see, let's see,

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01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: let's go again. I'm not committing to anything beyond next

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01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: Friday night. I get I want to see. I want

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01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: to see, and maybe Friday nights the time to do it.

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: But you know, what do you do with the other two?

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 1: What do you tell those other two guys? And here's

1584
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: your paycheck over? Yeah, what are you gonna do if

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01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, Jordan Porrier, Kyle Williams, Trent Murphy, Kelvin Benjamin

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy walk into Sean McDermott's office, he announces they're

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: gonna start, and they go, coach us wrong, started in

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 1: the preseason, gets wrong. I would say, turn around and

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: walk out. This is my job, that's not your job.

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01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: Where it's preseason game number two, You're gonna tell those

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01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: guys that I just listed to get out of your office.

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: It's none of their business. Who starts at quarterback in

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: the preseason game. You don't get a vote. It's not

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01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: a popular already contest. It's not that I'm telling you.

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01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to Steve and his car. Let me just

1596
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: rund here. Your culture on your team stinks. Steve and

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: a car. Hello, you're on the air. How you doing, guys?

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01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm do good? Go ahead. I'm sorry Steve, but here's

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01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: another bad vote for you. Listen, how did this become

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: a vote? We do have a pole and I like it.

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01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: Make it happen, Jay Harris, you trade it up for him? Um,

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01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Like everybody, so, it seems like even

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01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: the coaching staff is so worried that we gotta be

1604
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: careful with them. We can't do this, we can't do that. Well,

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 1: that's fine. You know you'd be careful when the OTAs

1606
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: in mini camp. Now he's in training camp. Put them

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: with the one. See what he can do. You know,

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01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be the first rookie to start in the NFL.

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01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying if he made next week, but physically,

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: the other two quarterbacks are never ever gonna be where

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01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: he's at right now. I can name Listen, I can

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01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: name you some pretty good quarterbacks who are playing good

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01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: in a fella who hint, who can't live up to

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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen his arm. There's a bunch of them, the

1615
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: old guys, all those elite guys that you're talking about.

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01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: None of those guys can hold a candle to him physically.

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck doesn't have his arm. Well, that's my point is,

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: let's see how we can do. Maybe the game isn't

1619
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: too big for him as a rookie, and I think

1620
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: that's something they need to find out and just really

1621
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: unshackle them and let them go. Let's see what we got.

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01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: Let's find out in August, not September ninth. Maybe he is,

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01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: Maybe he isn't. The one thing I would take issue

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: with a little bit there, Steve, is that I haven't

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01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: heard them and I haven't seen them to any great

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01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 1: extent protect Josh Allen yet. Look, if he doesn't start,

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01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: is he don't get a chance to play with the

1628
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: ones next week? All right, a little more evidence, But

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01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,879
Speaker 1: I don't look from what I've seen in the operation

1630
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: now for a year and a half from Brandon Bean

1631
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott, they don't protect players. I mean, they

1632
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: are aggressive, they want to win. They go out and

1633
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: get guys when you don't think they're going to And

1634
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: I think that probably goes holds in this case too.

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: If if they think, uh, Josh Allen has a chance

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: to be really good this year, they're they're gonna put

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01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: him in there. I think they will hold back. I

1638
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: see what you're saying. But here's the thing. They don't

1639
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: have to protect anybody because everybody who gets on the

1640
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: field for them earns it. They don't. They don't just

1641
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: throw guys in there. Hill willing to just decide, Now

1642
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: let's try this guy. Let's let's see what this guy.

1643
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: Let's try this little experiment. Now you earn your opportunity.

1644
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: That's why Josh Allen is not going to start on

1645
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: against Cleveland. He might, Dave and Lackawana, Hello, Dave, you're

1646
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: in the air, Dave. And if he does, we're gonna

1647
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: replay that soundway from YouTube. Questions. I'll back and listen

1648
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: to hear. How many rookies do you think we'll be

1649
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: starting for their prospective teams all over the league? Rookie

1650
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are rookie quarterbacks? Yeah, yeah, that maybe maybe one

1651
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: out of them, maybe one, and maybe and number two.

1652
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: Do you think Cleveland made a mistake by drafting may

1653
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: Fe first? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Um,

1654
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a mistakes And it's way too

1655
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: early to make that call. And you know it's um

1656
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley is gonna, for lack of a better

1657
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: way to put up sae Quon Barkley's got an easier

1658
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: job than need of those quarterbacks that got drafted. Sae

1659
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley's going to take the ball and run where

1660
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: he sees daylight. Some people think the giantsman mistake. That's right,

1661
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: And for a minute, I think I could be maybe

1662
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: rolled into that. They got a quarterback in Eli Manning

1663
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 1: who has not played well, and they had a mountain

1664
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: of young talented guys who were gonna come in and

1665
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: play quarterback in the NFL at some point. Some of

1666
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,879
Speaker 1: them like Josh Allen are very talented, like Baker Mayfield,

1667
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 1: like Josh Rosen, Sam Darneld. I mean, they've got some guys.

1668
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: The Giants bypassed all of them for a running back.

1669
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: I question the wisdom of that, no matter how good

1670
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,879
Speaker 1: sea Quon bar I don't care if he's Barry Sanders

1671
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: or Jim Brown. That's a position that runs the ball

1672
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: in the throwing league. You look around the leagu the

1673
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: most sought after running backs are guys like Alvin Kamara

1674
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: and LaShaun McCoy Christian McCaffrey for the Carolina Panthers. We

1675
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: saw last night. You know why there. It's not because

1676
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: there they run it, it's because they catch it. So

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01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 1: I you know, you can say all you want about

1678
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: sa Kuon Barkley and all those other names. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this league has changed and it's about throwing it. So

1680
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I No, I don't think the

1681
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: Browns made a mistake. Taken Baker Mayfield instead of say

1682
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: Kuon Barkley. I think the Giants made a mistake taken

1683
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: say Quan that high. Let's take a few off the

1684
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: tweet sheet on this topic. Biggest takeaway from last night's

1685
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 1: preseason lost to the Panthers from Charlie and Gleca. He says,

1686
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 1: very healthy quarterback competition. Happy for Peterman to start eighteen

1687
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: so well, Alan as a freak was impressed with the threes.

1688
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,759
Speaker 1: Was impressive Rather with the threes, Alan, He's talking about

1689
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 1: his shot with the Ones could be the separating performance

1690
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: we're looking for most crisp first preseason game. I've ever

1691
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: seen Bill's play, very very well coached team. I agree

1692
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: with almost everything Charlie and Gleca says. There. It was Chris,

1693
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: it was fun and Josh Allen could if he if

1694
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: they give him a chance to play with the Ones

1695
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: on Friday, which some of us me advocate, he could

1696
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 1: separate himself from the others. It could be a revelation.

1697
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: How's he going to separate himself? I don't know. Throw

1698
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns and

1699
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: make some incredible throws that's all, make plays that the

1700
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: other two can't make, and you know and you would know. Okay,

1701
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: now we got to decide can we live with his downside,

1702
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: which right now includes inexperience and maybe a couple of

1703
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: issues as far as, uh, you know, complete command of

1704
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: the playbook? Can we live with that? Knowing the skill

1705
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: set that he has, the throws he can make, That's

1706
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: what the calculation will be. But until my point is,

1707
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: until you get to see him with the Ones against

1708
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: the ones, it's hard to make that decision. It's hard

1709
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: to decide. I mean you think about the miss blitz

1710
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: pickup Keith Ford, right, miss blitz pickup not likely to

1711
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: happen when the ones are out there. That kind of play, Yeah,

1712
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: there'll be there'll be other plays being made, but just

1713
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: plays like that, don't give me him a chance. Sometimes

1714
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks went sixteen of twenty for two hundred

1715
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: and thirty five yards and two touchdowns or a touchdown

1716
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 1: and scored and made three scoring drives. So if Josh

1717
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: Allen comes in and plays a whole half and does

1718
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: that himself, you didn't take it. But we're not I'm

1719
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: not going on numbers. Part of this is potential. Part

1720
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: of this is what you have invested in Josh Allen. Yeah.

1721
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: Part of it is what you see the way he plays,

1722
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: the way and I get it. We're you and I

1723
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: are just talking. We're talking like this this second preseason game. Yeah,

1724
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: it's not like we're talking like the AFC Championship game, right.

1725
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, so I get it, and at some point

1726
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: I do agree with him, and maybe it is this week.

1727
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: You gotta I want to, you gotta see what he

1728
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: can do. But I think they'll do that in practice.

1729
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: We'll get a heads up. Maybe maybe you and I

1730
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: when when you're over there next week, and maybe we're

1731
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: gonna start seeing him take reps with the Ones, and

1732
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, and I and certainly you gotta do it.

1733
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna just throw the guy if

1734
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: it's a three person race unless and you know, he

1735
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: kind of raised your eye. I don't want I don't

1736
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: want to cast a spursion. Maybe you know he hasn't

1737
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: earned a spot Deven take reps with the Ones because

1738
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: of meeting time, because of other stuff that's going on

1739
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He just hasn't, you know, either they

1740
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: don't you know what I mean. I don't know why

1741
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: would you throw that out there? I know, I mean,

1742
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't know why you're desperate. I'm not. I'm just saying,

1743
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: but you're right. At some point, I do want to

1744
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: see him with the Ones. But I think they're going

1745
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: to do that in practice because they do it in

1746
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: the game. He remember, he hasn't done that at all

1747
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: in practice that we know of, excepting walkthroughs. Here's the

1748
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: tweet back to up Steve from j W. Socks says,

1749
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: I like what I saw last night from the number

1750
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: one and number two offense and the starting defense. I

1751
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: think this is him talking. I think Josh Allen was

1752
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable and unsure at times. His arm is terrific,

1753
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 1: but he's not game ready yet. Steve has the right idea,

1754
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: but he does deserve a half with the first team.

1755
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: That what I'm talking about half of the first To

1756
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: get a half of the first team's got to be

1757
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: the first half of one of these games, which means

1758
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: like it's got to be Cleveland or because by the

1759
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: time you play Cincinnati, you want to be kind of

1760
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: locked into who your guy is by the time you

1761
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: get there, but you can't remember too And I'm the

1762
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: schedule is a question because, like you've said earlier, and

1763
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: for those people who don't know, the third preseason game

1764
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: usually you have the starters go all the way into

1765
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 1: the third quarter. Instead of like a last night where

1766
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: Nate Peterman they played one quarter and then they're off

1767
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: for the entire evening, and then AJ McCarron played one

1768
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: quarter and then he sat down for the whole evening.

1769
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: The third preseason game is one where they play their

1770
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: starters and their number ones all the way through halftime,

1771
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: so they come in, run through their halftime routine, go

1772
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: out and make some adjustment, makes some adjustments at halftime,

1773
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: go out and play the second half, and then come

1774
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: off the field after they start the half. That's traditionally

1775
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: what we're talking about these days, though, and I wouldn't

1776
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: be surprised if if there's a trend starting because all

1777
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: the last preseason games are on a Thursday, so that

1778
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 1: they have a full ten days before their opening game.

1779
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that that doesn't change the philosophy about

1780
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: that third preseason game a little bit, but we'll have

1781
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: to wait and see. But if you run down that

1782
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: kind of schedule, so you got this first preseason game

1783
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: that's over, you got another one just like it coming

1784
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: up on Friday again Cleveland, and then that third preseason game,

1785
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: So how do you handle the rotation not just to

1786
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, but like Lashawn McCoy and Kyle Williams who

1787
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: haven't played at all. So I think that's when we

1788
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 1: sit down to the presser with Sean McDermot. We need

1789
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: a grill him about that. I want to find out

1790
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: what the play hey, you know, yeah, I know, And

1791
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: we'll see how far we get with him wearing any anymore. Hey,

1792
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: when we come back. There was an interesting pregame moment

1793
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: before last night's game which some people think was the

1794
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: big story coming out of that game. We'll talk about

1795
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin Cam Newton when we come back. Steve and

1796
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: I back with more. One Bill's Live presented by Kalada

1797
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: Health and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

1798
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 1: the show One Bill's Live from One Bill Drive, John

1799
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker. Well, an interesting thing happened last

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01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: night before the game. Steve, I didn't notice it. I mean,

1801
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm busy before kickoff. You are as well? Did you

1802
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: see this going on? No? I didn't, and I had

1803
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: to go back and look at it on Twitter as well,

1804
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: right before the kickoff. So it goes back to Calvin

1805
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Benjamin Builds receiver Calvin Benjamin's comments last week. He said

1806
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: he would have been better off his first three and

1807
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: a half years of his career had he been with

1808
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback with better accuracy and knowledge of the game

1809
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 1: than Cam Newton. That's what he said. Of course, he

1810
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: was asked about it a lot during the week. Cam

1811
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: Newton obviously he didn't like it, and before kickoff on

1812
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: the field pregame warm ups Newton walks over across the

1813
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: field and sort of confronts Calvin Benjamin. It didn't look ugly, Ei.

1814
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: There were some smiles out there and some some glares too.

1815
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 1: I don't think it app I don't think it approached

1816
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: the point of it being a fight or anything. But

1817
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: clearly it looks like an uncomfortable, awkward conversation with those two.

1818
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: Between those two, what do you think is going on there, Steve,

1819
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Kelvin Benjamin's trying to brush him

1820
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: off and walk away, and Cam, you know, is walking

1821
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: kind of chasing after him, and Kelvin doesn't want to

1822
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: take time to talk to him. Clearly as you would expect.

1823
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: I guess that you know, they're they're not okay. It

1824
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: looks like Benjamin wants to walk away, It doesn't want

1825
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: to deal with it. It looks like Cam is kind

1826
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: of forcing the issue. Nothing came of it, and it's

1827
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: really not that big a deal. I mean, you got

1828
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: some people thinking that was the story of the game,

1829
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: the story of the game. It was not, just as

1830
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Benjamin's comments last week were not that big a deal, right,

1831
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: I mean, is it really a shock when a receiver

1832
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: says I wasn't that quarterback wasn't really good for me

1833
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: or my career. Right the other day Tuesday basically to

1834
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: us that with the with with the let's face it

1835
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: here too. And I'm not saying anybody whatever goes on

1836
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: in Carolina, I have no idea. I know that my

1837
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: old friend Bruce de haven Uh thought Cam Newton was great.

1838
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: I thought he was good, a good leader, good teammate

1839
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 1: and all that. So that there's that. But I know this,

1840
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: when Calvin Benjamin landed here in Buffalo UM the culture

1841
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: that he came into last year, and we all saw it,

1842
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: it was something special. Last year. They were very close

1843
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: knit group. We saw signs of it all over the

1844
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: football field. We saw it in the locker room when

1845
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: when the whole fan base and the team found out

1846
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: they were going to the playoffs at the same time.

1847
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: It was a very close knit group and a very

1848
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: very you know, great good vibe coming out of the

1849
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: Shangri lag vibe coming out of the locker room. And

1850
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Calvin Benjamin responded to it. I think

1851
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: he liked it. How could you not like being a

1852
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: part of that um? And I think when he looks

1853
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: back on his time in Carolina. There's no question that

1854
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: it probably has a little sho how good or bad

1855
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: it was. It doesn't look as good as it did

1856
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 1: when he came into this locker room and this this

1857
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: culture and and the you know, good vibrations coming out

1858
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: of it. So there's no question there's a little of

1859
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,839
Speaker 1: that going on. Um, But I don't think it's that serious.

1860
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't either. Kem Newton didn't answer questions about it

1861
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, I don't think you. Talked to the

1862
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: media after the game yesterday here in Buffalo. Kevin Benjamin did,

1863
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: and he was asked, you know what was going on there?

1864
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 1: How would you describe what happened on the field with

1865
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: Cam Newton before the game? Here's what Kelvin Benjamin said,

1866
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: just moving moving on from you? Our guess. What did

1867
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: he say to him? I mean that serious room. What

1868
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: did you say to him? Moving on from it? It

1869
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: looks like you tried to walk away from a few times.

1870
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: It looked like you tried to walk away from him

1871
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: a few times. Yeah, it's just moving on from you.

1872
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: Didn't want to get into it. Yeah, what was he

1873
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: trying to say to you? I don't even know. I

1874
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 1: was wasn't even trying to listen little TMZ action there.

1875
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like Calvin Benjamin was interested in talking

1876
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: about it at all. Of course, he got reprimanded publicly

1877
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: by Calvin did by his coaching and even as general

1878
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: manager about last week, yes, early last week. And I

1879
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 1: think a lot of that had to do with they

1880
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: don't want to start them. They don't want to They

1881
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: don't want players to accept that going into any game preseason,

1882
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: a regular season, it's okay to disk an opponent or

1883
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: even a former teammate, right, you know. I think that's

1884
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: kind of the they didn't want to establish that president.

1885
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: I think that's what McDermot I think for the organization,

1886
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: No question, Brandon being and Sean McDermott said as much.

1887
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Speaker 1: They wished he would have handled that differently. Yeah, but

1888
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: you got to think he was kind of serious about it.

1889
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Speaker 1: When he doesn't he didn't back off it, right, Um,

1890
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,600
Speaker 1: he really believes it. Yeah, And so yeah, he's not

1891
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna make public. He's gotta gonna keep stirring the pot.

1892
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: But he said it, and I think he really believes it.

1893
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do? I mean, that's fortunately

1894
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: there was so much else going on in that game.

1895
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 1: That's a minor issue, right, Well for me, yeah, I mean,

1896
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: I don't lie. They come on, man, I'm I lived

1897
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: through the night that bickering bills back. You know, team

1898
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: that was the same team exactly. Nobody was getting sent

1899
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 1: to another team, that's right. So yeah, this is nothing.

1900
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: It was a bump in the road. That's done, and

1901
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure both those guys are very happy where they're at. Yeah.

1902
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Speaker 1: Hey uh. In the third and final hour of the show,

1903
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Speaker 1: we're going to continue to talk about your big takeaways

1904
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: from last night's preseason loss. Phone lines will be open

1905
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Speaker 1: eight oh three h five fifty and toll free one

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01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Your biggest

1907
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: takeaway from last night's loss? Where do they go with

1908
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? We discussed that a little bit. We'll get

1909
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: you that continue that discussion, and we're gonna bring in

1910
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Speaker 1: a guy who's usually pretty measured in his thoughts, Chris

1911
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 1: Brown builds inside of Buffalo builds. You never know what Brownie.

1912
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get caffeine up Brownie and he's out of control.

1913
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get to you know, analytical straight Chris Brown,

1914
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna get but we're gonna

1915
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Speaker 1: get him next hour, all right, look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown coming up, One Bills Live, presented by Kalaida

1917
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Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radiofalo

1918
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories. Date turned out to be a

1919
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: preseason loss, but a pretty good performance by the Bills

1920
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 1: last night, game one of the twenty eighteen preseason. Carolina

1921
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: got three second of touchdowns coming from behind, beating the

1922
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Speaker 1: Bills twenty twenty three crowd of sixty one thousand and

1923
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: New Airfield. The Bills have to be encouraged by strong

1924
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Speaker 1: performances from all three quarterbacks, each of whom engineered a

1925
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 1: touchdown drive during their time on the field. The Buffalo

1926
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: offense was multiple efficient. New offense coordinator Brian Dable calling

1927
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Speaker 1: the players from upstairs. Bills players back at work here

1928
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Speaker 1: at New Airfield today, conditioning rehab this morning. Practice coming

1929
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Speaker 1: up later this afternoon. They are off tomorrow back on

1930
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 1: the field of Saint John Fisher for training camp Sunday

1931
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Speaker 1: two fifteen pm practice. You need a ticket to attend.

1932
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: Our website Buffalo Bills dot com more information on the

1933
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Speaker 1: practice schedule and on tickets. A couple of preseason games.

1934
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Speaker 1: Tonight in the NFL, the Falcons played the Jets at

1935
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: seven thirty at MetLife Stadium, and later tonight the Lions

1936
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: play the Raiders in Oakland at ten thirty. Andrew Lucke,

1937
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 1: back in the game first time in nineteen months, got

1938
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,799
Speaker 1: hit twice last night in the Colts game against Seattle.

1939
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: Luck survived it said it was really fun to get

1940
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: back into the NFL. Baker Mayfield, first overall pick, first

1941
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: NFL preseason game last night for Cleveland. He replaced starting

1942
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: quarterback Tyron Taylor late in the first quarter. Through two

1943
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns and two plus quarters, helped the Browns beat the

1944
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,799
Speaker 1: Giants twenty to ten in their preseason opening. Raiders defensive

1945
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: end Khalil Mack continues his holdout will not be in

1946
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: camp today, and by not showing enough to camp before

1947
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,839
Speaker 1: their first preseason game tonight against the Lions, Mac scheduled,

1948
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: will be fined eight hundred and fourteen thousand dollars toward

1949
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: the collective Bargaining Agreement. Entering the final season of his

1950
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: rookie contract. Buffalo Baseball Hall of Fame welcomes two new

1951
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: members tonight. Former Bison's manager Marty Brown and former Bison's

1952
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 1: pitcher Joe Rowa. They'll be formally inducted during special Hall

1953
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 1: of Fame ceremonies during the Bison. It's a game tonight

1954
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: against the Toledo mud Ends seven H five, first pitch

1955
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: in downtown Buffalo. Kevin Kissner has charged into the lead

1956
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 1: at the PGA Championship on day two, the native of

1957
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: Georgia making four birdies in his first six holes to

1958
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: get the seven hunder part or the tournament. That's the

1959
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker joined

1960
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: in studio by our buddy Chris Brown, Bills insider at

1961
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Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot com. Brownie, I'm gonna pay you in

1962
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: the fellows on the website. A compliment checked it out

1963
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: this morning, just you know, there's a ton of information

1964
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: about last night's game. You guys had it all. You

1965
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,480
Speaker 1: had recaps of the game, you had video of highlights

1966
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: and locker rooms sound, you had analysis. It's the place

1967
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: to go postgame. I found that to be I know

1968
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Speaker 1: that's always been the case. Well, wow, I wasn't expecting

1969
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Speaker 1: bouquets today, but thank you very much. We appreciate that.

1970
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Speaker 1: We're handing them out. That'll be it. Okay. By the way,

1971
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's going to Hall of Fame. Thanks. I've heard

1972
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 1: the banter here today. It's been rather entertaining, Steve. When

1973
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: you guys disagree, it's more fun. It is more fun.

1974
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 1: It is more fun, Yes, especially when I'm writing Steve's

1975
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: Wow come Boom. Chris Brown, Bills Insider, Buffalo Bills dot Com.

1976
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: I want to get you right into what we're talking

1977
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: about today. We'll get to the quarterbacks, but big takeaways

1978
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: from last night's game, that's what we got up on Twitter.

1979
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: We'll read some tweets. We'd love to talk to our

1980
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Speaker 1: listeners about it on the telephone nine at eight h

1981
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Speaker 1: three h five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

1982
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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Chris, your biggest takeaways from

1983
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: last night's game. Give us a couple. Please. When I

1984
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: see Brian Dable today, I'm going to hug him. I'm

1985
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: going to give him a big camera on that. You're

1986
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna give him a big bro hug and say thank you,

1987
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: because I would say, not since Chan Gaily have we

1988
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: seen this much creativity in offensive play calling. And I'm

1989
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: excited about what that means for this offense, no matter

1990
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Speaker 1: who the quarterback is. I heard you guys debating are

1991
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: they going to be a passing offense now? No, They're

1992
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna be whatever works that week. And you'd be an

1993
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 1: idiot to bash your head into a wall, you know,

1994
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: twenty times with a run game against the third ranked

1995
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,799
Speaker 1: run defense from last season, which is what the Bills

1996
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: did in Week two last year. They bashed their head

1997
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: against the wall twenty five times, you know, with an

1998
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: antiquated offense that didn't work, and you did your team

1999
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: at disservice. And that's why Rick Dennison is not employed

2000
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 1: here anymore. You know, Brian dabole what he and I

2001
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: said this in the pregame my only concern because he's

2002
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: always talking to players. This past week at camp, a

2003
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: lot of them are saying, I said, I'm hearing you know,

2004
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Brian's tweaking things here and there after practices, between practices,

2005
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 1: sometimes during practices, and they're like, oh, yeah, he's changing stuff,

2006
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 1: like he has an idea and he's already thinking about

2007
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: it walking off the practice field at the end of

2008
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 1: the day. And that gave me a little bit of

2009
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: a concern because while you want to be unpredictable. You

2010
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: want to be multidimensional, you want to be varied. There's

2011
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: a balance you have to strike there by going because

2012
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: if you go too far, now your players have trouble

2013
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: executing it, implementing it, all of that. But if last

2014
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: night is any indication, and I'm ready to hand out

2015
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 1: credit to the players too, because the way they were

2016
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: able to handle it, all the varied formations, the personnel groupings,

2017
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 1: the substitutions coming on and off every single play was

2018
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: very encouraging. And that was the question I asked coach

2019
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: last night after the game. I said, how encouraged were

2020
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: you that the players were able to handle it? And

2021
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 1: he said, I'm very encouraged. So, I mean, Brian, what

2022
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: he did with that offense last night was fantastic. And

2023
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, you come out firing, but why wouldn't you.

2024
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 1: You know, Brad Berry's not playing one of their starting corners.

2025
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:43,520
Speaker 1: Their other starting corner from last year is in Philadelphia,

2026
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, after the trade for Tory Smith, so go

2027
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: after the corners. Keevan Seymour is one of your starting corners.

2028
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Kevan. He's not a top two corners.

2029
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Speaker 1: I mean he's on Kelvin Benjamin. People are like, wow,

2030
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: look at that connection between Nathan Peterman Kelvin Benjamin. It's

2031
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin on Keevan Seymour. It just makes too much sense.

2032
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 1: It makes too much sense. And it's just so nice

2033
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: to see an offensive coordinator because what did I write

2034
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 1: in our countdown to camp? I did that piece on

2035
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: Dable and I said, what are we gonna expect from

2036
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Dabo's offense? Number One, You're gonna see a guy who's

2037
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: focused on matchups first. Yes, he's got scheme and progressions.

2038
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: Match up first. Nathan Peterman's under center. Now, in all likelihood,

2039
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin was probably the first read in the progression

2040
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, but he kept going to

2041
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: him because that's the mismatch. Second thing, tempo variation. We

2042
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: didn't see a ton of it, but there were a

2043
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 1: couple of times where they got up to the line

2044
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker, maybe two or three times the

2045
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 1: whole game. And the third thing is multi dimensional. They

2046
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: were multi dimensional last night and Carolina was on their heels. Yeah,

2047
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 1: it's one thing to do that first game of the

2048
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 1: regular season. They did that in the first game of

2049
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: preseason with new quarterbacks, essentially Peterman with limited experience last year,

2050
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: new quarterbacks, brand new offense, multiplicity and versatility and what

2051
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: they're trying to do and not really any bumps on

2052
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: the road. And I noticed this, and I want to

2053
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 1: see more. We're talking about, as I cautioned Steve, and

2054
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: we all know this it's one game, one sample. I

2055
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 1: want to see more of this. But I'm watching like

2056
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: the entire offensive coaching staff helped to get the right

2057
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: personnel on the field. Chad Hall, offensive assistant, looked to

2058
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: me like he was the one who'd say, Okay, this

2059
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: personnel package number one, number two, number three, whatever it was.

2060
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Boris is sending in the play Dables upstairs, Coullie's working

2061
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks. I mean, it's not just the Brian

2062
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: Dables show here. The whole crew I think did an

2063
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: outstanding job with the mechanics of being so versatile. And

2064
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 1: it will get easier and the roster is smaller. Yeah,

2065
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 1: because any any coach will tell you on the sidelines

2066
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 1: during preseason, especially special teams coaches. Yeah, I mean it's Harry, Yeah,

2067
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: you got a lot to Matt. You're almost managing twice

2068
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 1: the number of players. Listen, you got guys that don't

2069
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 1: even know where they're supposed to be standing on the side,

2070
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: because you know, if you're if there's a personnel grouping

2071
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 1: on offense that you're part of, you got to be

2072
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 1: standing there and you got got yeah, you got helmet on.

2073
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 1: You got guys over there getting drinks, and you know, preseason,

2074
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 1: they just they're just they're all over the place. But

2075
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: I was last night, though, I was trying to keep

2076
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: an eye on this through the course of the night.

2077
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 1: You know, plays getting in, personnel grouping, substitutions getting accomplished.

2078
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: They were getting out of the huddle pretty routinely between

2079
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: sixteen and twelve seconds on the play clock. Um with

2080
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: all that they were changing for a single play, that's

2081
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 1: pretty good, especially for a first time out with different

2082
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting shuttled in. We pooh pooed this a little

2083
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: bit last week when he said it, but we've gone

2084
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: back to a Murph has really gone back to it

2085
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and he's right. You know, what

2086
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: were the you know, Sean McDermott, what are your keys

2087
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: for this game? He was, Listen, we want to have

2088
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: eleven guys on the fielding. They knew that. We laughed,

2089
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: We thought, Okay, he's being he referenced, he's being simplicity

2090
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 1: and he's like and but he was true. And they

2091
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 1: did it too. They knew it was going to be

2092
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: a challenge and they they attacked it and got it done.

2093
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean that if you're gonna be an offense like that,

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Speaker 1: step one being able to get the right guys on

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Speaker 1: the field. And as excited as everybody was about the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I think day boll Trump's it. I really do, because

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have not It's just so refreshing to

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Speaker 1: see creativity, creativity on offense. I mean, Jane Gailey had

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Speaker 1: a measure of creativity that was exciting to watch. He

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Speaker 1: had a wide open attack. It was entertaining. It's probably

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Speaker 1: the reason Ryan Fitzpatrick's career is still going now. But

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Speaker 1: you know, between Brian Dayble and Ted Marchibroda, it's pretty thin.

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01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: It's pretty thin, you know. And so to see this,

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01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: I mean, Murph, you and I have watched a lot

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Speaker 1: of Bills games over the years. This is very I

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01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 1: mean I drove home with a smile on my face

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Speaker 1: and they lost the game. I didn't care because and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. And believe me, I think it was more.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing too, day boll you know,

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01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 1: I think he catered to the strengths of each of

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Speaker 1: those quarterbacks when they stepped on the field. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking to Josh Allen the locker room last night

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Speaker 1: and he says, yeah, right before I was going in

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Speaker 1: for the second half. Coaches talking to me before the kickoff,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, put your right hand up if you

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01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: want Stabs, put your left hand up if you want

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01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: goos and Alan put his left hand up. And what's

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Speaker 1: the first play. It's a sixty two yard bomb down

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Speaker 1: the left sideline, you know, and he threw another one later.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, it's a guy who is giving the

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01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 1: quarterback tell me what you like, tell me what you

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01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: feel good about, even right before he's stepping on the field.

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01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how willing to change he is. And

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01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 1: that's why the most important thing that Brian Dable said

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01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 1: to me in the one on one interviews that I've

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01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: had from the time he got hired in January, the

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01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: number one common he made to me is adjustments don't

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01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: just happen at halftime. They start from the very first

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01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,600
Speaker 1: series of the game. And that is something that he

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01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: learned from Belichick. And finally, finally, when we play that

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01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: damn team a couple of times, you feel like you

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01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 1: got somebody that can match wits for God's sake, on offense.

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01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we got the Brownie. We were looking

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01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: forward to get Brownie the fun Guy Award. Now here's

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01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: the other thing too. And you know, our VP, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Matthews and I have talked about this a number of times.

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Speaker 1: A number of times over the year. Okay, a number

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01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,959
Speaker 1: of times over the year. We've discussed this. Good coaching

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01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 1: and in this league, good quality coaching in this league

2140
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: can win you two extra games a season. I believe,

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01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 1: whether it's you have a lights out coordinator or a

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01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: dynamic head coach one or the other, I think they're

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01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 1: good for two extra wins a season. So you know,

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01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: if day Ball can can keep this up and keep going.

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01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 1: Uh and you have a steady quarterback in there week

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01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: after week, your personnel is reduced from you know, ninety

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01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: some odd players to fifty three. Here's I really encouraged.

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01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Listen, here's the problem. Day Ball is

2149
01:44:58,040 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: gonna come in, you're gonna do this. I'm gonna have

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01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: this great year and day Ball is going to be

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01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: head coach of the Cleveland Browns next. I'm way down,

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01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: one down. And that's the thing too. We've had this,

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01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: We've had this discussion too. Yeah, so Peterman McCarron. Hard

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01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: to imagine both of them playing any better than they did, right,

2155
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 1: both were sharp? So now what do you do? I

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01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: mean we're talking. You got and Josh Allen comes out

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01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 1: and even in okay, even in the first preseason game,

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01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh is physically different. I mean, the guy

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01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 1: can sling it. Um, how much of a chance does

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01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:33,719
Speaker 1: he get? Now, what did he buy last night? Because

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01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, he's playing with the threes and you can,

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01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: you can discount everything that he did, good or bad,

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01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: because he's playing with these guys. I don't I'm not

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Speaker 1: willing to do that. But that's kind of the I'm

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Speaker 1: exaggerating to make this point. What do they do? What

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Speaker 1: do you think the plan is? Here's the thing. Last night,

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01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: we're talking to coach McDermott and there's only a handful

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Speaker 1: of US reporters in the postgame press room because no

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01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: players were coming to the lectern, so a lot of

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01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: media members were like, shoot, I gotta go get the quarterback.

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01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: So a lot of people bolted for the locker room.

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01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: I was down there with a handful of other reporters.

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01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: I think Joeb asked, coach, is it going to be

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Speaker 1: McCarron in the next preseason game since Nathan started this one?

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Speaker 1: And he would not give it. He would not definitively

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01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: say that's what's happening. But he said he wouldn't tell

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Speaker 1: us Peterman was starting this one either. He said, I know,

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Speaker 1: but he has been all about the rotation, and he

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Speaker 1: didn't He was not ready to stay at McCarron as

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Speaker 1: the guy who's going to start next week at Cleveland Now.

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Speaker 1: He said he was citing the fact that he wanted

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01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: to watch the film. So I think he genuinely wants

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01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 1: to review each and every snap of each and every quarterback.

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01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Murph's interest is peaked. And here and here is here's

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01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: the rub, guys, this is the rub you've got. And

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Speaker 1: we've said this and you just said it's Steve. We've

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01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 1: got a quarterback in Josh Allen who is physically superior

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01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 1: in every way to the other two players. He can

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01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: do things that the other two cannot. What he has

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01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: not yet been able to prove is he can be

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01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: as consistent as those two. And when you got one

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01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: that goes nine for nine and another that went what

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01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 1: seven for ten, seven for ten, he was not that.

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01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:19,560
Speaker 1: At the same time, if he is your starting quarterback,

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01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: the playbook opens up so much more. You have so

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01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: many more options to your offense if he is your

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01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks. So with that in mind, if you're trying

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01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 1: to do what's best for the football team, you're doing

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Speaker 1: yourself at disservice if you don't use the preseason to

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01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 1: find out what he is and is not capable of,

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Speaker 1: and whether or not he's ready. Can the other two

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01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: throw that rocket to Ray Ray McCloud in the end

2203
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: zone through that tight window, Probably not. Can the other

2204
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 1: two throw that deep pass to Robert Foster, Yes, in

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01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 1: complete out of bounds, probably not. That's the potential that

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01:47:57,720 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: I see from Josh Allen. I want to see more

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01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 1: that I think he should start Friday night in Cleveland.

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01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: And if there ever was a reason, and we know

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Speaker 1: that coach McDermot says this all the time, he's always

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01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: looking to improve himself as a head coach and he

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01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: learns from his experiences. Well, his experience last year was

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01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 1: based on practice and whatnot. He thought Nathan Peterman was

2213
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 1: ready to play in Los Angeles. He wasn't right, And

2214
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: so how do you improve on that the next time?

2215
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: You put him on the field, and you put your

2216
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: young quarterback on the field in a game situation to

2217
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 1: find out, to gather more information so you more definitively

2218
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 1: can make the decision. Yes he's ready, No, he's not

2219
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 1: a minute and your window of time here is closing, Steve,

2220
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 1: wait a minute. That's how Peterman made the team last year.

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01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: Peterman played lights out in the preseason last year all

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01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: the way until the fourth preseason game. He was lights

2223
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: out all the way through the preseason. So the same

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01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: guy that was lights out in the preseason, like you're

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01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 1: asking Josh Allen to be, came in and stunk when

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01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,640
Speaker 1: he got a start in what's that going to tell you? Well,

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01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna take it down a road that's

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01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: already led to disaster. Right. Well, he was lights out

2229
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 1: in the preseason and then waited ten weeks and was

2230
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: practicing in ten weeks and coach felt he made waiting.

2231
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: He was practicing every day, right. Well, you know what

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01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, starting line. So to me, to me, the

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01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: least the way to approach this with the least amount

2234
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: of risk and getting to what you hope is a

2235
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: more definitive answer is to play him now in the

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01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 1: preseason when the games don't count. He almost that game

2237
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 1: almost cost this team a playoff birth in Week eleven,

2238
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: that loss at LA, it almost did so Listen, Tyrod

2239
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 1: Taylor starting that game was not going to change the

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Speaker 1: outcome of that game. I mean, but it's a valid point.

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01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to dismiss it because their pass rusher

2242
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. But anyway, but I'm but I'm saying, if

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01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: you're if you feel you need to get more information

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01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: to help you make a more definitive decision as to

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01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: when this kid's gonna be ready, you do it in

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01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 1: the preseason when the games don't count and there's nothing

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01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 1: on the line. Yeah. I can determine that. I get

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01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: it from both you guys that you know you want

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01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: to see him. But here's the thing, and it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit like I just talked about Nate Peterman last

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01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: year playing in four games now doesn't help you decide

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01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 1: if he's ready in week twelve or week four, or

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01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: week two or seven or what you picked the week.

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01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: I think you know what I mean. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: you have to decide after watching the film if you

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Speaker 1: feel Josh Allen has made demonstrative progress from what we

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01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 1: saw the first two weeks of training camp in that

2258
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: game last night, if you feel he did, then you

2259
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: have to give him reps somewhere higher on the depth

2260
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: chart to see if he can handle the next thing.

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01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 1: And then if he can, now you gotta give him more,

2262
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 1: right because he's the end game. How he is the endgame,

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01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 1: And that's why it's different. The question is, and Murph

2264
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 1: and I said a little earlier, how fast do you

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01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: think he can get good? Well, yeah, I don't know

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01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 1: if anybody can answer that. That's the and that's and

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01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: again that's why you may have to put him in

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01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: with the starting unit at least for some portion of

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Speaker 1: this game against Cleveland. With Chris Brown, Bills Insider Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com, let's work in a few calls Paul

2271
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,560
Speaker 1: on the line from Eden, go ahead, Paul, Welcome to

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01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 1: the show, to his radio Paul, Paul are you there. Yeah,

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01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: we can't. We can you waited thirty nine minutes Paul

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01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: in Hamburg. Yeah, Paul, are you there? Yes? Here, go

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01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: ahead an the air. Yeah, that's gonna basically say the

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01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: Steve Buffalo area. You don't need to wear a golden coat.

2277
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 1: You're already in Canton as uh, you're You're already. Everybody's

2278
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: mind is a hall of famer. Here. Two shots on

2279
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: the show. Now, every time somebody says yes, okay, yeah,

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01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 1: shots of gona be whatever we're drinking spot all right, Paul,

2281
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: go ahead, three you make the busk until everybody can

2282
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 1: get drunk less and you guys that Paul, that is

2283
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: radio goals. Thank you for that. Paul. Did you have

2284
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 1: a Bill's comment to make you? Is this your go ahead?

2285
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 1: About Josh Allen? I think I think Steve is right.

2286
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I think you're right, but I do think that they

2287
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,799
Speaker 1: should wait for Josh Allen. He has he has great talent,

2288
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 1: but you have to develop him mentally to play that game.

2289
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 1: To read the plays correctly, you had he had to

2290
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 1: the best way to do that is sit him down

2291
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: on the bench and have him go over the film

2292
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: every play. Sit down with someone with knowledge to teach

2293
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: him the proper way of reading, and then you plug

2294
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 1: him in so he so he's not lost and getting

2295
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:55,520
Speaker 1: buried by the defective lion or running around growing interception.

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01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: You know what, Paul, They're doing that as we speak,

2297
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 1: don't you guys think in the meeting room right now,

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01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: day Ball the rest of him, they are pointing out, Josh,

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01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: this was the right read, not that right that's going

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01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: on right now, I believe. Yeah, And what's the risk

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01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 1: of having him play now in the preseason? I agree.

2302
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, guys, you have a You have a

2303
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 1: greater risk playing him with the threes, where the pass

2304
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 1: protection is probably not going to be as good then

2305
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 1: you do with the ones. Are the twos? Stop, here's

2306
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 1: my thing. We all should just stop trying to talk

2307
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: ourselves into getting him to start on opening day. I'm

2308
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 1: not saying that you've got you've got to, I know,

2309
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 1: but that's the thought, is that he's going to be

2310
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 1: so good in that start with the ones that you

2311
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 1: can't do anything else. My point that out, Stop trying

2312
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: to talk yourself into it. When it. When HiT's ready,

2313
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: there won't be anything to debate. It's time to put

2314
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,879
Speaker 1: him in. I want to find out if he's ready.

2315
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 1: You can't rule out the fact that he could be.

2316
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: Say they made no better than we do. I'm sure

2317
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 1: they do. They do, so you know see what they do.

2318
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 1: You know we can. But I'm just good. Everybody, thank you,

2319
01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by. Um. Yeah, don't talk yourself into

2320
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 1: starting him. Wait until that guy the team. Everybody says

2321
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 1: they know what it's time. Well, that's the assessment. The

2322
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 1: problem is, and I get the problem with that is

2323
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 1: because you got two guys there that you got to

2324
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 1: get ready to play and there in the mix too,

2325
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: so you can't just sit here and watch him develop.

2326
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 1: You got a football team to put on the field. Well, right,

2327
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: but that's the football team that needs a starting quarterback.

2328
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 1: So you've got to find out who that guy is.

2329
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: They're not gonna lack for guys to take it. I

2330
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: think I think coach McDermott was not going to definitively

2331
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: say who's starting the next preseason game because I think

2332
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: there was enough that happened out on the field last

2333
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 1: night where he's saying to himself, I really want to

2334
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: take a long look at all of this and then

2335
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: make a determination as to what is best to getting

2336
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,839
Speaker 1: to our end goals, so we're ready for the regular

2337
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: season opener. The two number one goals on offense are

2338
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: get your offense ready to play in a new scheme.

2339
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 1: They looked good doing that, at least the first team

2340
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: did in terms of execution. And number two, get your

2341
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: starting quarterback decided upon number one, and then get him

2342
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: ready for the regular season. Did you hear us talking

2343
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: about this and we were in the you weren't in

2344
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: the production meeting, but he said this, and I've gone

2345
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: to it a couple of times. I thought it was

2346
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was important. He said, I don't want

2347
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 1: this quarterback decision to linger. We got him and he

2348
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: knows that top clock's ticking. You got one game down,

2349
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: and now you're I don't think you're any closer to

2350
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: You may disagree, I don't think you're any closer to

2351
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: deciding where your starting quarterback is. Well, here's another way

2352
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: to look at this whole thing, because the focal point

2353
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: in every discussion with this is what it's Josh Allen,

2354
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Do you feel pretty

2355
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 1: good that you know what Nathan Peterman is as a quarterback? Steve,

2356
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 1: You do you feel pretty good? You know what he is? Well,

2357
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing, right, he's a rhythm passer. Quickly out.

2358
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 1: Do you feel you have somewhat of a handle on

2359
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 1: a j mccairn in the quarterback stronger arm than Nathan Right?

2360
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 1: I told you though, I've told him though. You could

2361
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 1: switch their jerseys in practice sometimes and you might not

2362
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 1: be able to tell which guys which because they're that

2363
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: much alike. You're talking about McCarron and McCallen and Peterman. Okay,

2364
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: so in general you have a handle on what they are. Absolutely,

2365
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: the guy with the most unknowns here is who. It's

2366
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen because of his because he hasn't been as consistent.

2367
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: He's shown positive signs. He's made some wild play flashes.

2368
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: Granted they've been few and far between, and you need

2369
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 1: consistency at the starting quarterback position. But I think last

2370
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 1: night he did make some progress. Now is it enough

2371
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: to earn more time higher up the depth chart? That's

2372
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 1: up to coach McDermot and his offensive staff. My point

2373
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 1: that I'm making here is you have I believe, and

2374
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 1: I've got to believe the coaching staff does too. A

2375
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 1: pretty good handle on what Nathan Peterman is as a

2376
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 1: quarterback and what a Jian McCarron is as a quarterback.

2377
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: They've had the least time with Josh Allen. I'll be

2378
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: at what four weeks, fewer two and a half, three weeks,

2379
01:56:55,560 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: fewers out of twelve or whatever, And so you're trying

2380
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 1: to unearth more answers as to not I think they

2381
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 1: believe they have enough evidence to know what he's capable

2382
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 1: of with a physical skill set that's off the charts.

2383
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: But now I think they need to see him on

2384
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 1: the field more to more accurately determine are those physical

2385
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: skills on display consistently enough? Can he make progress each

2386
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 1: time we put him out there to decide does he

2387
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,839
Speaker 1: need to be more of the conversation with the starters?

2388
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 1: You know? And I think that's those are the answers

2389
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: they're trying to come up with. You're only going to

2390
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 1: come up with him by putting him there with starters

2391
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: and situation. As far as I'm concerned, the most surprising

2392
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 1: thing about this whole scenario, you know, you broadcast on radio,

2393
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 1: I did the game on TV. We've been talking about

2394
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 1: a leading up. We did the whole draft and we

2395
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: have a preseason game. We're further away from deciding on

2396
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback than we were. It only looks less catastrophic

2397
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 1: if you make the wrong if you choose one or

2398
01:57:58,000 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: the other, it just doesn't you know what I mean.

2399
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 1: But it looks like you're okay with both of them now,

2400
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that doesn't make you any closer to making

2401
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: the decision. Well, I'm just that's the weirdest part about

2402
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: this whole thing. I think I think it's more pleasant

2403
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: to be I think coach would like to have a

2404
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: decision made somewhere between the second and the third preseason game.

2405
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: That's because I think that third preseason game he really

2406
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 1: kind of wants to have all the ducks in a row,

2407
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: starters playing a half. That's a longer week and right,

2408
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 1: and that you don't want to get to that fourth

2409
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: game eleven days out from the opener, That's right, you

2410
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So, Hey, Chris Brown is with

2411
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 1: us a couple more minutes. We got to move off quarterbacks.

2412
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot more going on. A couple of calls

2413
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 1: to get us there. I've been in Buffalo ahead a question,

2414
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: I haven't go ahead, Yes, guys, how are you doing

2415
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 1: to day? Okay, okay, So what I want to know

2416
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 1: is which which why receivers and which offensive lineman helped

2417
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 1: or hurt themselves yesterday. It's yesterday's game. Um, that's a

2418
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 1: fair question. Now, I'm I'm like, really, I haven't really

2419
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 1: seen too much from vibracies of it in Benjamin and

2420
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: I think Foster, my you know, I think he might

2421
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 1: be really on a bah good question. I haven't. Let's

2422
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 1: get to it. Let me just start it off by saying,

2423
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 1: I thought Ray Ray McLeod played better than he had

2424
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 1: during training camp first two weeks of camp, so I

2425
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 1: think he helped himself a little bit last night. What

2426
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 1: do you guys? I agree with that, I'd agree with that.

2427
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think I'm surprised Robert Foster didn't

2428
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 1: play better than he didn't last night. He had a

2429
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 1: couple of times on a deep A couple of people

2430
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 1: saw him. We saw it all the place. He thought

2431
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:26,560
Speaker 1: the play was over, turned around and was watching and

2432
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 1: kind of gliding instead of you know, shifting gears. Um,

2433
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, we still haven't seen Zay Jones, Chris Ivory

2434
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought played well at the running back spot. You

2435
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 1: know who I thought played well and I mentioned it

2436
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 1: earlier because I said he was a football a basketball player,

2437
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 1: not a former quarterback. Logan Thomas. Yeah, I saw him

2438
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: go down and you know the thing that about him,

2439
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback. Yeah, he was blocking. Well. Well,

2440
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: we were watching your game and TV in our office

2441
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 1: this morning, and it was a touchdown or a big run.

2442
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas man handled somebody on the d well he

2443
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 1: chit blocked. Yeah. I actually tweeted last night because it

2444
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 1: was he had three good plays all on the same drive, right,

2445
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 1: And I tweeted it right after I said, Logan Thomas

2446
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: is doing the little things really well right now. He

2447
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 1: had the chip block that you referenced where he decked

2448
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 1: the guy. The guy was on his It was like

2449
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 1: a pancake chip block. I've never seen it. Yeah. And

2450
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 1: then he uh, he had a nice block on a

2451
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy run right, I think went for eight or

2452
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 1: nine yards inside block, down, inside cross block on a

2453
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 1: trap block. It was very nice. And he was a

2454
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 1: safety valve on a checkdown play for mccaren That was

2455
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:36,800
Speaker 1: all on the same drive. I mean, that's those are

2456
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:40,600
Speaker 1: little things. Those are the exact little things that coaches

2457
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 1: are looking for when they review the film. It's those

2458
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 1: kinds and so well, you know, I think he knows.

2459
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:50,400
Speaker 1: I think he knows. This maybe his last kick a

2460
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 1: terms of getting on fifty. Crew had a stick and yeah,

2461
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 1: Jason Crum had a nice catch at tight end. And

2462
02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: he's the most athletic of the bunch. It's not even

2463
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:05,400
Speaker 1: close physics or crew, Yeah, physically gifted. Just loosen the

2464
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 1: hips and very you know, I mean, it looks like

2465
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: a wide receiver out there in a tight ends body.

2466
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 1: One more call and this we'll get us to another

2467
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:12,960
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Dave in Florida, Dave, your thoughts

2468
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 1: please on last night's game. Yeah, how are you? How

2469
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 1: you guys doing good? Good? All right, good? I'm calling

2470
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:21,320
Speaker 1: to ask her about the defense. I would hear a

2471
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 1: lot of offense. And I watched the game last night

2472
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 1: down here, and the second half we'll give up twenty

2473
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 1: three points. Was that because it was a two or

2474
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 1: three defense? Yes? Or was the number one defense in

2475
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 1: the whole first half that only gave up seven points?

2476
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: They only got a quarter there, They got a quarter

2477
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 1: and then they went to the number two's for the

2478
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: second quarter, much like they did with the quarterbacks. I

2479
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 1: think the number twos did a nice job as well.

2480
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips got a sack last night on a one

2481
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: on one rush to the left guard. They got they

2482
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 1: had some padded balls batted down. I thought Shack Lawson

2483
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 1: gave a supreme ever. He really played hard when he

2484
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:58,760
Speaker 1: was in the game, as we kind of expected. But

2485
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 1: I also I kind of couch everything I think about

2486
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 1: with this defense because Kyle Williams wasn't on the field

2487
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 1: and Trent Murphy wasn't on the field either, UM, so

2488
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 1: well and that and the defense still played pretty darn good.

2489
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:16,840
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, yeah, defen, yeah, they and

2490
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:19,320
Speaker 1: they pick in his hands right chance of the pick,

2491
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson knocked a pass down UM and they and

2492
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes flushed Cam Newton from the pocket. And if

2493
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't if it was any quarterback other than Cam Newton,

2494
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 1: it might have very well could have been a sack

2495
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:33,640
Speaker 1: that ended up Cam Newton running and sliding for a

2496
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 1: first down or good yardage anyway. So there was a

2497
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:39,880
Speaker 1: lot of things about the defense that were good. But

2498
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 1: for me, I mean, I you know, they were playing,

2499
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 1: uh with two of their starters not in the lineup,

2500
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: and then they still played well, oh for four on

2501
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 1: third down was Carolina in the first half? Yeah, um,

2502
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 1: and they had seventeen rushing yards. I think, um pretty

2503
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 1: because they averaged only two for the game. Now, there

2504
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 1: were a couple that did leak out late in the game.

2505
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 1: But I asked coach about the run defense and he said,

2506
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 1: I can live with the number, he said, I just

2507
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 1: do want us to be a little bit more consistent, um,

2508
02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 1: in terms of not letting some of those leak out runs. Yeah,

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02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:15,000
Speaker 1: get out there for eight, nine and ten. I said

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02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: that as well. They had trouble rallying to little little

2511
02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 1: screen passes and when when one guy missed, you know,

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02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 1: they didn't rally really good to the ball. And he

2513
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:29,280
Speaker 1: missed tackles with the second and third units, Yeah, Davis, Yeah,

2514
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:31,240
Speaker 1: he missed one down the sideline. You're right that that

2515
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 1: was a twenty eight yard play. I think that was

2516
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 1: the longest player the first half of the tarn Johnson

2517
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 1: missed a tackle as well, and so yeah, but overall,

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02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 1: the ones and twos played pretty numbers and they were

2519
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 1: good against the run. Numbers on paper look good. Yeah.

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02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 1: Chris Brown bills inside of Buffalo Bills thatcom. What's coming

2521
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:49,280
Speaker 1: up on the website over the weekend as we continue

2522
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 1: to cover camp in this preseason what do Yeah, we

2523
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 1: do have a nice um feature coming up on a

2524
02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 1: J mccaren. Nice story there with him, just kind of

2525
02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 1: showing we try to you know, when we try to

2526
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 1: do these feature stories, we try to humanize the players

2527
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:05,720
Speaker 1: a little bit so they're more than just a jersey

2528
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:09,040
Speaker 1: and a helmet. And I think this story will hit

2529
02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 1: the mark on AJ. So that'll go up tomorrow on Saturday,

2530
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: kind of a dead day because you know, the players

2531
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: are off. Um. Obviously we'll be covering coaches press conference

2532
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 1: this afternoon, and you know, see if we can pull

2533
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 1: out three things from practice today that we feel fans

2534
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 1: need to know. Five things you may miss from one

2535
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 1: Bill's drive this week that's coming up. That's right, that's

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Speaker 1: written by expertly author. Right, that is expertly no no

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Speaker 1: pseudo names though it's not a Mark Twain take no way.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Chris, you got it. Chris Bills inside a Buffalo

2539
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Steve and I back with more. What's

2540
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Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway from last night's preseason game against the Panthers.

2541
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 1: Give us a call, we'll discuss it. Three five fifty

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's training cap. Gurdon six papers from

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Speaker 1: their own thirty two garn Kilbert picks the stamp out

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Speaker 1: of the guns back to throw, looks right, looks last,

2547
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: boxed around and sack ruck down by horrible Harry Harrison

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02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 1: Phillips Saxon back of the twenty yard line. Great play

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Speaker 1: by the rookie, the advanced alarmed defensive play of the game.

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Speaker 1: home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. He made a play.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked much about Shack Lawson today. I thought

2554
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:40,879
Speaker 1: he had a very good night and a very interesting

2555
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:43,560
Speaker 1: next He played early, made big plays, and then came

2556
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:45,480
Speaker 1: back into the game later on, which got me thinking,

2557
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:47,480
Speaker 1: what are they doing? How are they using him? There's

2558
02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:49,560
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people had good nights last night.

2559
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean we said there's a lot of positives you

2560
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 1: know who really had a good nights. My guy Murph here.

2561
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:56,040
Speaker 1: So we knew Josh Allen was going to come into

2562
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 1: the game, and I knew. I said it on the

2563
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: TV broadcast, kind of sarcastic. Lead to my guy ROBSTONA said, Hey,

2564
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: do you really think he's gonna hand this ball off

2565
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: on his first play? No, he's gonna go for it.

2566
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 1: So sure enough, on the first play of his Buffalo

2567
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: Bill career in the preseason game number one, Josh Allen

2568
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 1: comes in and I, guy, Murf, what a call he made.

2569
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 1: So we got that. Listen to the Murf's call of

2570
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's first play as a quarterback of the Buffalo Bills.

2571
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 1: Allen play action fake, gonna throw it on his first play,

2572
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 1: Gonna throw it deep fucking downfield for Foster and he

2573
02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 1: makes the Cats down inside the twenty yard line. No,

2574
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 1: they were a lot abounds. He aired it out though.

2575
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen went for it. He went for all of

2576
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,080
Speaker 1: it on his first throw as a Buffalo Bill. Yeah,

2577
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:40,880
Speaker 1: a little bags and bass I got into it. I'm sorry.

2578
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:43,480
Speaker 1: I tried to have the cheer, but holy Macro, what

2579
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 1: a way to start laughing. He got a cheer when

2580
02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 1: you're pushing the coup later away, you're trying not to

2581
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 1: drink it. You were gulping it down for just a

2582
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 1: minute there. Boy, you almost had the I V start

2583
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 1: the half like that, his first throw like that. How

2584
02:06:57,080 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 1: great would have been had it been in bounce, that

2585
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 1: would have been in. I could see it coming. And

2586
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of funny. We've been talking a

2587
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 1: lot about day ball. That was a real guy coordinator

2588
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 1: with a real sense for the moment. Yeah, he knew it.

2589
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 1: He knew what that meant right then. He knew what

2590
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:12,920
Speaker 1: people have been talking about, saying what they wanted to

2591
02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 1: see whatever, you know, And he said, okay, how about this,

2592
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:19,600
Speaker 1: and he just said go, he said he put the

2593
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:22,560
Speaker 1: fastest guy on the team on the near side home

2594
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 1: side of the field and said you go, and you

2595
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:30,120
Speaker 1: throw it. And it was great, and the people in

2596
02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:33,320
Speaker 1: the stands went nuts. People in the radio booth when

2597
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:35,560
Speaker 1: the people went in the radio, everywhe nuts. And it

2598
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: was it was well worth the effort. That was That

2599
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 1: was the play of the night and it was an

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02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 1: incomplete bound out bounds. You got a call here from

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02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 1: Vinnie in Saint Louis. Hello, Vinny, go ahead, Hey, how

2602
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 1: you doing John Murphy? Good Vinny appreciation on the show?

2603
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: No grries, go ahead, man, Okay, I just you know,

2604
02:07:56,040 --> 02:07:59,160
Speaker 1: the office looked real good last night. I really like

2605
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,280
Speaker 1: to worry looks. And I know we got rid of

2606
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 1: the Tyro. I'd tell you and I will be advocated.

2607
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 1: So I live with ty Rod. And I was just thinking,

2608
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 1: how do you guys thought he wouldn't he wouldn't make

2609
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: some of the throws they were trying and completing last night.

2610
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: He didn't throw over the middle um. And the last

2611
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 1: couple of years, even though I thought when his first

2612
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 1: year as the starter, tyrode through a good deep ball,

2613
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 1: he didn't throw deep ball the last couple of years.

2614
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he would have a place in

2615
02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 1: this offense because they would figure it out and make

2616
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:35,800
Speaker 1: it work for him. But no, they moved on from Yeah,

2617
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 1: and let me say this, Vinnie and I appreciate we

2618
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: liked Tyrod too, and there I loved he had buckets

2619
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:42,600
Speaker 1: of all the stuff you wanted a quarterback, but he

2620
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 1: did not throw the football well enough, and they had

2621
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 1: to the offense looked the way it needed to look

2622
02:08:47,560 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 1: so Tyrod could do what they do something and do

2623
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 1: what he The things he could do well one z

2624
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 1: he didn't throw the he didn't fumble it. He could

2625
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 1: scramble around and they had to call pass patterns where

2626
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:00,320
Speaker 1: the guys were running wide open, and that's it's hard

2627
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 1: to do in the NFL. So Tyrod's gone because they

2628
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 1: couldn't throw the football effectively enough. And by the way,

2629
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 1: for those of you who haven't looked, last night, Tyrod

2630
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:15,960
Speaker 1: was five for five for Cleveland. For I think he

2631
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:19,800
Speaker 1: was five for five with one touchdown, ninety nine yards,

2632
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 1: one touchdown, and he had a perfect quarterback rating in

2633
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:28,080
Speaker 1: his one series for the Cleveland Browns. But listen, show

2634
02:09:28,120 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 1: me that over the course of a season what they're

2635
02:09:29,560 --> 02:09:32,680
Speaker 1: gonna do and we'll see. But yeah, I don't. It

2636
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 1: would not have looked like it did last night if

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02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 1: Tyrod would have been playing. I said this to Kelso

2638
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 1: on the radio last night. Fourth quarter probably see him

2639
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:40,600
Speaker 1: and looked, and I believe this. I want to get

2640
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:42,480
Speaker 1: your reaction. I don't know who's going to be the

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02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:45,120
Speaker 1: starting quarterback here in September ninth. I don't, I really don't,

2642
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 1: and I don't know how that's gonna play out. When

2643
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: Josh will play or anything like that. But I do

2644
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:52,640
Speaker 1: know this. I believe this. This passing offense is in

2645
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:55,040
Speaker 1: much better hands and is going to be much better

2646
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 1: no matter who it is any of those three, mostly

2647
02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:59,440
Speaker 1: because of Dable and what he has brought and what

2648
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:01,320
Speaker 1: he's trying to get done here, they're gonna be They're

2649
02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 1: not gonna be the thirty first passing offense in the NFL.

2650
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: They can make some significant steps forward. I think no

2651
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 1: matter which one of those three is a starter. Yeah,

2652
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:13,000
Speaker 1: I agree. We've been saying that since they made the

2653
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 1: move and traded him. Um, you know it's they're just

2654
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to then and to take another step forward

2655
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 1: and get you know, to win their way into the

2656
02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:22,680
Speaker 1: playoffs on the last week of the season, or to

2657
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: win the division to make a deeper run into the playoffs,

2658
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: they had to throw the football better than they were

2659
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 1: able to. Let's try one more cost see being can

2660
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 1: squeeze it in, Bob and Ripley, New York Ahead, Bob, Hi,

2661
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 1: John Hi, doing great? What's on your mind? Well, what's

2662
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:42,560
Speaker 1: on my mind? I agree? It was the Hall of

2663
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 1: Famer Steve Taster you drink Yeah, yeah, I think that.

2664
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allene should be uh, you know, sat for a while.

2665
02:10:53,760 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 1: He's still green. He needs time to mature. And I

2666
02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 1: think Peterman is our best bet right now. Okay, you

2667
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 1: may be right. He played well last night. I really

2668
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 1: like Nathan Peterman. Um. I don't know if maybe he'll

2669
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 1: start September ninth, maybe he won't. I think he is

2670
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 1: a better chance today of starting September nine than he

2671
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 1: did twenty four hours. And I don't listen. I don't

2672
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:20,600
Speaker 1: want to like put and I got I got a

2673
02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 1: tweet from guys saying lay Steve tasks like the old

2674
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:25,560
Speaker 1: one of those old NHL guys that says everybody's got

2675
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 1: I've got a tweet says old yeah NHL guys who

2676
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 1: says all the young players have to ride the bus

2677
02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:36,680
Speaker 1: for two years before they get a shot in the NHL. Okay, maybe,

2678
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:40,800
Speaker 1: but no, I do think and I'm not saying you

2679
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 1: got to throw Josh Allen onto a shelf and leave

2680
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 1: him there for two years. But whatever he gets, make

2681
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 1: sure he's ready for it, and make you make him

2682
02:11:49,160 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 1: earn it. All right, a break, We're back with more.

2683
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalaida Health from One Built

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Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Oh, we're almost out of

2685
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Speaker 1: time here. What have we learned from today's show? Presented

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Speaker 1: a home theater provider, or the Buffalo Bills. What have

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Speaker 1: we learned from Great co Sell, one of our favorite

2690
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:25,120
Speaker 1: guests back on Fridays with Us, We asked him the

2691
02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 1: question that it had Steve and I at odds for

2692
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 1: most of the show. Should Josh Allen start preseason game

2693
02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:32,200
Speaker 1: number two with Cleveland? Here's what Great co Sell said.

2694
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 1: I think when you trade off to draft a guy seven,

2695
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:38,800
Speaker 1: you're expecting him to be your starting quarterback. At some

2696
02:12:38,920 --> 02:12:41,320
Speaker 1: point you didn't. You didn't do this, so he sits

2697
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 1: for a full year. So all I would say is,

2698
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:46,240
Speaker 1: I would like to see him start a game in

2699
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 1: the preseason, before the fourth preseason game, because I'd like

2700
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 1: to see how he takes a somewhat of a game plan.

2701
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:55,040
Speaker 1: You're still giving a quarterback scripted plays and a plan,

2702
02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:58,240
Speaker 1: even if it's not meant to attack this specific defense

2703
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 1: that you're playing against. You're still giving him a plan.

2704
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 1: And I'd like to see how he goes out and

2705
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 1: executes a plan that you've worked on throughout the week.

2706
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:09,800
Speaker 1: So whether it's this week or the following week, I

2707
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 1: would like to see him start again. It's not a

2708
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:14,760
Speaker 1: knock on the other players, but you did trade up

2709
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:16,760
Speaker 1: to get him. I'd like to see him. You know,

2710
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:19,400
Speaker 1: I have the chance to go through that process. Well,

2711
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:21,800
Speaker 1: see how it works. There's no right answer on this, Steve, really,

2712
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 1: and it's good arguing with you. Hey, you know it was.

2713
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:26,680
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was a fun show. An argument

2714
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:29,720
Speaker 1: on your side, he commits. I won. Hey, you got

2715
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:31,880
Speaker 1: the long weekend coming up, so you're paying over losing.

2716
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 1: The argument will be lessened a little bit. We'll get

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Speaker 1: your back end training camp on Wednesday. Yeah, this is yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is my last. This is it. I got meetings,

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Speaker 1: I got meetings, I got meetings in New York. I

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Speaker 1: got to go to at the end of this month.

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Speaker 1: But then, you know, you know, I worre seven days.

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Speaker 1: You know, yes, work well, you know it is Hey,

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Speaker 1: you have a good weekend, everybody. We'll see him Monday

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