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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Numbers Game podcast, Ryan Grodowski, thank

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Speaker 1: you all for being here. Today is an action packed episode.

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Speaker 1: I have elections, I have early votes, I have polls,

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Speaker 1: I have gossip that tease steaming hot. Right now, this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a great episode. Okay, we're going

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Speaker 1: to get to the story about Congressman Tony Gonzalez, who

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Speaker 1: represents South Texas, and the death of his aid slash mistress.

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Speaker 1: And now I believe I mentioned it to you on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. I went back for a few episodes. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't find it, but I know I've tweeted about it.

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Speaker 1: I know I've talked about it, and I heard about

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Speaker 1: it when it first happened. Tony Gonzalez, for those who

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Speaker 1: don't know, represents South Texas, is very disliked, allegedly among

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Speaker 1: colleagues in the Congress. He denied the allegations of this affair.

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Speaker 1: Evidence is mounted the affair was real, that he had

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Speaker 1: ghosted his mistress who ended up killing herself. It is

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Speaker 1: wild the claims. We will get to that during our interview,

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. I want to first talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys about the state of polls going into

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Speaker 1: this midterms. And I want to start about California, a

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Speaker 1: state that I don't cover a ton. California has thing

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Speaker 1: called a jungle primary. Basically every party candidate runs in

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Speaker 1: the same primary, and then the top two go to

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Speaker 1: the general. And of course there's universal mail in ballots,

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Speaker 1: so mel in votings big turnout, takes days and if

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Speaker 1: not weeks to count all the votes, especially if elections

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Speaker 1: are close in California because it's a Third World country

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Speaker 1: over there sometimes. But this is the state of the race.

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Speaker 1: There are sixteen Democrats, nine Republicans, a Green Party candidate,

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Speaker 1: four independents, and a partridge in a pear tree running

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Speaker 1: for this June second, twenty twenty sixth primary. As I said,

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Speaker 1: the top two go on to November. Now, on the

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Speaker 1: Democratic side, there are multiple serious candidates running. There's Xavier Bakara,

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Speaker 1: the state's former attorney general and he was the HHS

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Speaker 1: mayor of San Jose's I wouldn't say a moderate, but

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Speaker 1: She is running a shios around statewide once and lost.

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Speaker 1: A former presidential candidate, a billionaire named Tom Steyer is running.

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Speaker 1: He's going to spend a kajillion dollars on this race.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Eric Slowell, he was the one involved with the

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Speaker 1: Field, and they are splitting endorsements from unions, They're splitting

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Speaker 1: And then on the Republican side of this incredibly important

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Speaker 1: hosts Steves Hilton and Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco. Now,

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Speaker 1: the leading candidate first for governor right now in the

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Speaker 1: first round in the Jungle primary is Republican Steve Hilton,

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is underwater with California voters. He's a negative

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Speaker 1: to Biden's by twelve points in California. Okay, so far,

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Speaker 1: Independents are breaking towards Steve Hilton, He's getting twenty two

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Speaker 1: This race is so neck and neck that while there,

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Speaker 1: ninety days, I'm sure Democrats would work to get him,

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Speaker 1: That's the top of the ballot. If there's no Democrat,

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Speaker 1: many democrats Democratic voters will likely not show up in November.

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Speaker 1: Republicans got forty one percent in the general election. Steve

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Speaker 1: Hilton and Bianco Chad Bianco need to basically split twenty

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Speaker 1: Democrats need to split the rest of the vote fairly evenly.

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Speaker 1: in California. Your election in June matters more than your

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Speaker 1: Next up is the governor's race in Oregon. I have

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Speaker 1: your email now, Jonathan. There was I finally a poll done.

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Speaker 1: if they're super accurate. They found that Democrat Tina Koteca,

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Speaker 1: the incumbent governor is leading a likely Republican challenger, Christina Dresen,

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Speaker 1: the last three consecutive governor elections in Oregon, the Republican

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Speaker 1: one point lead against each candidate. Now, it will remind

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Speaker 1: rank choice voting Maine has a stupid form of elections

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Speaker 1: that she has a lead in that primary. In that

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, Susan Collins was down in thirty three

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Speaker 1: she's still unsingable. Susan Collins also, unlike a lot of

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Speaker 1: about Tony Gonzalez. Congressman Tony Gonzalez from South Texas. He

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Speaker 1: Regina Santos Avileez. I think I'm pronouncing hunting correctly, she

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Speaker 1: Take it from there, Tony. What happened in the immediate aftermath,

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Speaker 3: It was via self immolation, so via fire, right, which

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Speaker 3: look at her. Mother rushed to the house. Regina was

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Speaker 3: Correct, And when the firefighters arrived on scene, the mother

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Speaker 1: Okay, you spoke to the husband, I know immediately afterwards.

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Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't feel good to call somebody about

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Speaker 3: And he did not deny anything. He just said he

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Speaker 1: Okay, what was Tony Gonzalez's reaction when this happened and

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Speaker 3: She had approached the congressman and said, hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: So what broke recently that actually showed there was an affair.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's twofold, right, and this is doubly bad for Gonzales.

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Speaker 3: Not only did a stafford come forward, so initially, a

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Speaker 1: Because that that's a very awkward office when you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just an affair happening in the office, as

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Speaker 3: Well, this is even worse. The husband finally went forward

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Speaker 2: Well, she lost her marriage, her son.

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Speaker 1: was having an affair with the staff or there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of proven evidence she killed herself after he ghosted her.

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Speaker 1: What is the Texas Republican Party talking about. I know

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Speaker 1: he lost ONRSEMRO a major newspaper. There is there and

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Speaker 1: he's a primary challenge. The primary is only a few

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Speaker 1: weeks away. What are people talking about in South Texas now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is major news. Right. His primary opponent

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Speaker 3: is Brandon Herrera, who's a YouTuber, right, and.

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Speaker 2: He's a wild character on his zone.

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Speaker 3: I like him. He's very funny, he's interesting.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's got a political that you would imagine,

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Speaker 1: you've not you would if you ask groc to make

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Speaker 1: you an image of a candidate, it would never come

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Speaker 1: up Brandon Herrera, I'll just say that.

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Speaker 3: Right, And if he were to win, I think he

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Speaker 3: may be the first YouTuber elected official, which is kind

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Speaker 3: of interesting. But yeah, that's his primary opponent. And for

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Speaker 3: for for background, uh, this is not Herrera's first swing

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Speaker 3: at Gonzales. He went after him last election and I

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Speaker 3: think he was within less than five hundred votes that actually,

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Speaker 3: he came very close, and that was without this scandal, right,

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Speaker 3: So now you've got the scandal, and so what are

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Speaker 3: people talking about? So you know, this is this has

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Speaker 3: made major news. People are talking about it. You know,

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Speaker 3: politicians and major figures are kind of keeping quiet about it.

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Speaker 3: Gonzales did get the Trump endorsement, which is really disappointing,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: But he got it before all this news broke, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And President Trump has not pulled that endorsement. I saw

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Speaker 3: some tweets by some DC journalists that we're saying that

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Speaker 3: they're hearing that everybody's kind of having a holding pattern,

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Speaker 3: kind of waiting to see how everything plays out. But

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Speaker 3: that was before the husband came forward. So now that

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Speaker 3: the husband's came board, you've got a stafford, you've got

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Speaker 3: a husband, and with a lot of text messages and

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Speaker 3: you know, a lot of evidence, and Gonzalez is he's

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Speaker 3: he's throwing it back at Herrera. He's saying that Herrera

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Speaker 3: is capitalizing on this and using it for political gain,

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Speaker 3: and he's trying to tweet his way through it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was kind of embarrassing this this whole the handle

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Speaker 3: came out and Gonzalez the very next tweet was happy

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Speaker 3: Lunar New Year with the it's the Year of the

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Speaker 3: fire Horse.

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Speaker 1: Because you know people in South Texas, there's so many

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Speaker 1: people observing Chinese New Year's in Southeast right. This is

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Speaker 1: wild though, that he is that he's just trying to

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Speaker 1: tweet his way through it and hope it doesn't doesn't

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Speaker 1: get to him. And I mean, he's incredibly unpopular among

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Speaker 1: Texas Republicans, very famously back in twenty twenty four. This

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Speaker 1: is one to my audience, and Tony probably knows the story.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, when Texas Republicans were or probably

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Speaker 1: before them, rather, Texas Republicans were supporting this bill for

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Speaker 1: an immigration It was before so Biden was president and

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Speaker 1: Tony was the sole and they needed every Republican and

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Speaker 1: supported because the margins were so tight, and Tony was

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Speaker 1: the sole Texas delegate to oppose it, and allegedly when

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Speaker 1: they got a meeting of the Texas delegation, he called

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Speaker 1: them all racist for supporting an immigration enforcement bill. It

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Speaker 1: was definitely before twenty two four, twenty twenty two, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one three, and there is a lot of bad

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Speaker 1: blood allegedly between members of the delegation and twenty artis

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Speaker 1: and they would not be not twenty sorry Tony Gonzalez,

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Speaker 1: and they would not be so upset to see him go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I was genuinely pretty shocked at the

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Speaker 3: Trump endorsement though, although you know President Trump, his endorsements

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Speaker 3: on are are not always as great as they should be.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see what ends up happening. I'm curious if

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Speaker 3: this gets more coverage and more news if Trump pulls

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Speaker 3: the endorsement, or if this is how this affects Gonzale's

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Speaker 3: numbers again last cycle, Gonzale is almost lost by four

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Speaker 3: hundred Herrera almost be Gonzalz by like four or five

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Speaker 3: hundred votes. Now you've got this huge scandal. Herrera is putting,

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, a little more work into it. He's

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Speaker 3: got a little more name id So Gonzales I ran

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Speaker 3: a more professional campaign.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, speaking of the Trump endorsement, there's two big

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Speaker 1: other Republicans running or three rather with that do not

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Speaker 1: have the Trump endorsement. I want to go through them quickly.

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Speaker 1: One is Dan Crenshaw, the congressman. He is the sole

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Speaker 1: incumbent in Texas to not get a Trump endorsement. He's

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Speaker 1: a very good fundraiser in my opinion. He's actually a

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Speaker 1: very good speaker too. In the media. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's agree with him, but he does his job well.

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Speaker 1: Is there a real chance Crenshaw who went to a

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Speaker 1: runoff last time, He didn't even win his primary outright

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Speaker 1: last time, and Trump was on the ballot, so it

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Speaker 1: turned out a lot more mag of people. Is there

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Speaker 1: any real push to unsee Crenshaw this time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So his challenger is Steve Toath, who's a former

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Speaker 3: state representative. Toath is well loved in the district. He's

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Speaker 3: got a lot of name id He's substantially older than Crenshaw,

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Speaker 3: but you know, he's been around. And I am told

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Speaker 3: by people in the area and consultants and everybody kind

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Speaker 3: of surrounding the both campaigns that there is genuine concern.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of up in the air. This is I

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Speaker 3: think Crenshaw's first real serious opponent and potential chance of

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Speaker 3: losing a Crenshaw's nervous. I mean, we did a we

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Speaker 3: did an article. It was kind of funny. Crenshaw had

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Speaker 3: hired an SEO company to do some SEO work. I

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Speaker 3: think they paid them somewhere between thirty seven thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: or less, and we caught the owner of the SEO

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Speaker 3: company has a Wikipedia contributor account, and she was going

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Speaker 3: in and making negative changes to Steve Toate's Wikipedia page

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Speaker 3: and positive changes to Dan Crenshaw's campaign, which is not illegal,

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Speaker 3: but it's generally kind of slanging.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people do that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so there's stuff we're concerned there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's interesting. I could. I mean, I will

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Speaker 2: tell you. I went to an event in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: It was a social event and wasn't a fundraiser with

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Speaker 1: a Republican member of Congress in Texas, and a donor

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Speaker 1: walked up in and said, I will give you a

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Speaker 1: million dollars to find someone to beat Dan Crenshaw. And

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Speaker 1: the congressman said, if you make a two million, I'll

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Speaker 1: find someone with no eyes instead of just one. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: the other person who did not get a Trump endorsement

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Speaker 1: that surprised a lot of people is the very, very

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Speaker 1: messy former Congressman Mayra Flores. She is running for I

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Speaker 1: think her fourth run. She won a special in South Texas,

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Speaker 1: then she lost her reelection, and she lost the third time.

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Speaker 1: This is her fourth time, and finally the Trump team

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Speaker 1: cut her loose endorsed her opponent in the primary. She

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Speaker 1: is a very messy woman. Allegedly, Let's go to first

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Speaker 1: what is going on with her race before I get

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Speaker 1: into all the allegeds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, Trump has endorsed her opponent, another Flores,

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Speaker 3: Eric Flores, right in that primary. She's yeah, she's got

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Speaker 3: a lot of problems right, there's the alleged and again

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Speaker 3: alleged affair between her and Corey Mills and Florida. Right,

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Speaker 3: that's interesting. We did a report the other day. We

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Speaker 3: had found out that she had booked a couple flights

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Speaker 3: to Florida, and then we got we got a photo

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Speaker 3: of her coming back from the airport with Disney bags

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Speaker 3: and she had expensed this trip to Disney, Disney Resort

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Speaker 3: bags and she had expensed this trip plus a Disney hotel.

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Speaker 3: To her campaign report. She has got a substantial amount

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Speaker 3: of friends and family and family's boyfriends on her campaign account.

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Speaker 3: She is taking a substantial salary.

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Speaker 1: She's saying it's so rare for a congressional kind to

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Speaker 1: take a salary, but she is taking a salary from donations.

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Speaker 1: I literally, I probably she's probably one of three I've

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Speaker 1: ever heard of.

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Speaker 2: Even doing this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a substantial amount. Right. And you know, we've

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Speaker 3: kind of coined the term candidate as a career, and

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what she's turned her race into. And

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Speaker 3: she has faced a lot of embarrassing little mini scandals.

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Speaker 3: Grubgate was a big one, I think like a year

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Speaker 3: or two years ago, where you know, she she loved

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Speaker 3: previously loved to post photos of her meals on social media,

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Speaker 3: things she had cooked and things she had going on.

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Speaker 1: Millennials can be so embarrassing sometimes it gets much information.

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Speaker 1: Is so embarrassing. Go ahead, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 3: It's much worse than that. We had thrown her social

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Speaker 3: media food pictures in reverse image searched and we determined

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Speaker 3: that almost all of them she had stook, like taken

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Speaker 3: from other web pages and other things. She was passing

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Speaker 3: them off as her own. In one case, she had

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Speaker 3: taken a food that wasn't even Latin American and she

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Speaker 3: passed it off as Latin American dish, claiming that she

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Speaker 3: had cooked it, and she told she had she had

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Speaker 3: stolen it from a Facebook page from like five six

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Speaker 3: years ago. He was super embarrassing, and even the mainstream

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Speaker 3: media covered it and it was called grubcakes.

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Speaker 2: What is so bad that.

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Speaker 3: It's so weird?

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Speaker 2: Why would you No one cares what your food intake?

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Speaker 2: That's so weird.

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Speaker 1: Allegedly, she was having this long standing affair with Congressman

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Speaker 1: Corey Mills while he was allegedly married, and once again

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Speaker 1: allegedly that big fight that happened in Corey Mills's house

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Speaker 1: between him and his girlfriend where the cops were called.

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Speaker 1: That is because allegedly the girlfriend came home and Myra

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Speaker 1: was there. And also Myra allegedly went to the RNC

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Speaker 1: with Corey, who had three hotel rooms allegedly for a

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Speaker 1: different girl each night. None of them knew about each other.

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Speaker 1: Messiest people on the planet. And Myra is crazy. I

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Speaker 1: have so many starts of her and Corey, so many

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Speaker 1: stories about her and Corey and her divorce too, and

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Speaker 1: how insane that was her ex husband.

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Speaker 2: Could could come out with a real, real page turner.

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Speaker 1: Okay, last person I want to talk about when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Republican side, I want to ask about

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Speaker 1: Jazz and Crockett a second. But the last person want

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Speaker 1: to talk about is the incumbent center, John Cornyan, who's

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Speaker 1: in the fight for his life against both Ken Paxton

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Speaker 1: and Wesley Hunt. He Trump said he endorsed all three

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Speaker 1: of them. He basically said, I endorse everybody. I guess

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Speaker 1: the way to safeguard your win rate, you're always going

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Speaker 1: to come ahead. And but John Cornyn is really struggling

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Speaker 1: and donors are even thinking about cutting him loosing it's

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Speaker 1: just too expensive to keep him going because he can

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Speaker 1: come out in the top two of a runoff, but

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Speaker 1: I don't see a single poll where he ends up

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Speaker 1: winning a runoff.

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Speaker 3: It's a He's had a lot of scandals recently too,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately not of his own fault. Is a comms

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Speaker 3: director recently faced a lot of heat because he had

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Speaker 3: quote unquote docksed Wesley Hunt. He had published Wesley Hunt's

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Speaker 3: voter record and DD two fourteen's and didn't redact any information.

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Speaker 3: It had the last four of his social at birth,

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Speaker 3: It had his full address on there. And Congreshman Hunt

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Speaker 3: filed a police report against that stafford.

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Speaker 1: And you know it'd be different if this one impacton,

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Speaker 1: tweeted Wesley Hunt, saying we're going to get to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's very recent. I think it was last week.

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Speaker 3: And you know it'd be different if Senator Gordon had

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Speaker 3: distanced himself for this or apologize for it. But he

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Speaker 3: doubled down and he defended the stafford and was like,

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Speaker 3: this is public invote and it's not a good People

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Speaker 3: don't like that sort of thing. And you know, Cornyn's

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Speaker 3: always been labeled as kind of the quote unquote rhino

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Speaker 3: and Ken Paxton is well loved, beloved by a lot

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Speaker 3: of the right here in Texas As. He's been a

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Speaker 3: phenomenal Attorney General. That's not to say that Ken Paxton

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Speaker 3: hasn't had his own smooth scandals himself.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you a Ken Paxton story. I was

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Speaker 1: at an event in Texas maybe two weeks ago. I

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Speaker 1: flew and flew out, so I wasn't there for long,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't see anybody, but so I didn't call

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Speaker 1: any friends. But I met the ex wife, Ken Paxson's

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Speaker 1: ex wife, who was a state senator in Texas. And

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Speaker 1: it was a public event, and there were a big people.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of people there. It was a

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Speaker 1: private mund there was a lot of people there, nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: and not the ex wife, but her staff were speaking

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Speaker 1: so openly about Ken Paxton in a way that I,

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Speaker 1: who loved a little bit of drama, felt awkward and

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Speaker 1: kept on trying to change the conversation to about school

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Speaker 1: boards or something else. And I said, yeah, I never

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Speaker 1: met Attorney General packs and I tried to meet him,

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Speaker 1: but he was in Italy, I think when I tried

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Speaker 1: when I had a meeting to and the staffer said,

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Speaker 1: allegedly the staffer said, yeah, with his mistress, with his girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: and when on, I mean every four and five letter

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Speaker 1: word you could think of came out of their mouth

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Speaker 1: to discuss Ken Paxson. It was why and at the

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Speaker 1: end I said, it was like okay, well, lovely meeting everybody.

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Speaker 1: They were like, don't worry, God will make sure everything

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Speaker 1: gets right with him. I mean they that I did

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Speaker 1: not know how bad the blood was between him and

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Speaker 1: his ex wife as soon to be ex wife.

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Speaker 2: I don't know they actually out divorced yet, but it

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Speaker 2: was bad.

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Speaker 1: Like bad, bad, bad, and speaking very openly where people

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Speaker 1: could hear about how nasty their marriage towards the end

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Speaker 1: and their divorces. And they had four children together. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the kids are out campaigning Kim Paxson.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen them, but they know they're not. I

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Speaker 1: don't they he allegedly. I mean, I don't say it,

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Speaker 1: but it's he did their mom wrong. So I could

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Speaker 1: see I could see why they're not out there. And

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Speaker 1: everyone in Texas always says the same thing to me.

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Speaker 1: They say, you know, Ken's krook, but he's our krook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's the thing, like when you say did

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Speaker 3: it wrong, like you, you couldn't be more right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, he had had that affair with the first

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Speaker 3: woman and it became public and to my knowledge, and

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Speaker 3: again all alledged. This is all ledge, everything we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: To my knowledge, she kind of forgave him, right and

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Speaker 3: they went to couples counting together, and you know, it

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Speaker 3: was very embarrassing because the staff was covering his own

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Speaker 3: staff was covering for him. And there was photos. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've got a photo of this woman in lingerie in

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Speaker 3: a hotel room, like it's just not it's not a

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Speaker 3: good look, right, and uh, you know. And then and

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Speaker 3: then he allegedly had an affair with the exact same woman,

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Speaker 3: so it happened again, right, And then the most recent

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Speaker 3: one is this affair with well, I guess it's no

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Speaker 3: longer an affair now, but with this Christian influencer. And

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Speaker 3: that's what's really crazy that crack up, because this Christian

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Speaker 3: influencer is on her Instagram posting stories about God and

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Speaker 3: Jesus and you know, God makes the greatest decisions and

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Speaker 3: all this stuff. And I'm like, man, you you you

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Speaker 3: slept with the Mary? Yeah, this is wild, right, and

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Speaker 3: you know Angela Paxton is now well, soon to be

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Speaker 3: ex wife. Like she's out there and you could tell

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Speaker 3: she's she's dressing a little bit nicer, She's carrying herself

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Speaker 3: a little bit more confidently. The makeup looks a little more.

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Speaker 2: She was lovely.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I met her, she was a very

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Speaker 1: nice person, very nice. We wasn't doing the bashing, but

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Speaker 1: it was the staff talking. But they all said, if

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Speaker 1: you want to, she'll talk about it. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I do not want to. This is getting This is

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Speaker 1: like hearing mom and mom bashed Dad in front of me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm getting I'm getting PTSD right now. So I

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Speaker 1: need to stop this conversation absolutely. So Okay, last thing

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Speaker 1: is what's going on with the Democrats. Jasmine Crockett's campaign

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Speaker 1: and our associates are. I mean, they're blatantly accusing the

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Speaker 1: other Democrat of being a racist. They're saying that he's

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Speaker 1: a racist, and then he's been racial against blacks in Texas.

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Speaker 1: Black turnout is through the roof right now in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little lagging in Houston, but in

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Speaker 1: Dallas it's very high. She came out with Kelly Rowlands

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Speaker 1: of destiny child fame to campaign for her. She is

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Speaker 1: pulling out the stops for millennial women and gen X women,

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Speaker 1: especially black women, and saying now is our time, like

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Speaker 1: support me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they tried manufacturing this, this racism claim, and it

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Speaker 3: didn't really hit a A Democrat or liberal influencer came

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Speaker 3: out and alleged that James Tallarico had had a conversation

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Speaker 3: with her and said something along the lines that like

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Speaker 3: Colin Alirid was a disappointing black man.

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Speaker 2: Colin was the Democratic now the last time in first

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Speaker 2: Senate by the way, okay.

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Speaker 3: Right, And you know Colin Allread posted a video and

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Speaker 3: he always posts these social media videos of him in

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Speaker 3: like a tank top in front of his garage gym

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Speaker 3: workout session, and he had he kind of been attacking

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Speaker 3: tall Rico and the UH and JASMANC. Crockett also tried

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Speaker 3: to capitalize it, and it didn't mean Like, I don't

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Speaker 3: think I don't think it worked. Democrats didn't buy it,

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Speaker 3: and normally they do. But this inner party accusations of racism,

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Speaker 3: it just doesn't work as well as like accusing a

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Speaker 3: Republican of being bitsist. Right, and Democrats have maybe discovered

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Speaker 3: this this formula of they need to run like a

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Speaker 3: decent looking white dude or at least a normal white

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Speaker 3: guy to win races in Texas. That's how they got st.

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Speaker 3: Nine and it didn't land. So now you've got this

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Speaker 3: this tall Rico is attempting to get more name id

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Speaker 3: and he you have this another what I would call

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Speaker 3: manufactured controversy where he was on the Today Show with

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Speaker 3: John Stewart and I think it's Today's show. I don't

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Speaker 3: even watch Johnston.

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Speaker 1: Now Johnson was on Johnson has a podcast. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: go on a late night with Stephen Colbert, Stephen Colbert.

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Speaker 1: See this is this shows you how I don't watch

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Speaker 1: these these people. I don't know who watches this Today

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Speaker 1: Show is the Morning but some boomer stuff, right, And

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Speaker 1: so anyway, Colbert claimed that he had to take or

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Speaker 1: he wasn't able to broadcast his interview with Tall Rico

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Speaker 1: because the FCC had warned them about this, and CBS

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Speaker 1: came out.

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Speaker 3: And claimed that Colbert was not telling the truth on this.

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Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of this manufactured fighting.

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Speaker 2: But that raised a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he raised a ton of money in the cont

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Speaker 3: the Democrats. I was reading the Reddit Liberal forums and

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Speaker 3: they were like, Oh, they're trying to sign this Tallarrigo

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Speaker 3: because he's the greatest that threat to Republicans. And they're

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Speaker 3: not half wrong about that. Democrats or Republicans in Texas

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Speaker 3: are more concerned about a taller Rico run than they

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Speaker 3: are about Crockett. Republicans are praying, including myself, that the

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Speaker 3: Crockett wins because it's not only is it entertaining, but

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Speaker 3: she doesn't really have a real serious chance of winning it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have listened.

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Speaker 1: I have said that Jazz and Crockett is a middle

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Speaker 1: aged woman who's faking her black scent. I have said

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Speaker 1: that she is the dime store CARDI b. I have

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Speaker 1: said many things of Jazz and Crockett. But let me

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Speaker 1: tell you, if you're a Republican and you don't like

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Speaker 1: Ken Paxson, and you don't know who Wesley Hunt is,

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Speaker 1: and you know like John Cornyn, let's vote for our girl,

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Speaker 1: Jasmin Crockett. I've gotten at least four Republicans to vote

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Speaker 1: for Jasmine Crockett in this primary. I'm like, guys, just

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Speaker 1: down ware of the Republican line, get out there and

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Speaker 1: make sure Jasmin Crockett pulls over the finish line. Anyone

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Speaker 1: else that I've missed, by the way, Tony that that's

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Speaker 1: stirring right now in Texas.

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Speaker 2: That's worth noting about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our attorney general race is pretty We've got actually,

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Speaker 3: if you've cut a decent lineup. The good news if

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Speaker 3: you're a Texan is that the attorney general, the candidates

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Speaker 3: in the attorney general's race are all pretty decent. They're

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Speaker 3: all good. We've got Chip Roy, we've got May's Middleton,

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Speaker 3: we've got Aaron Rights, and we've got Joan Hoffman, and

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Speaker 3: they're all pretty great. But they're battling it out pretty hardcore.

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Speaker 3: Paxton's endorsed. Aaron Rights is a former staffer of his.

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Speaker 3: I know him, Yeah, yeah, you know. He's really popular

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Speaker 3: on the internet. The polls I haven't I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of polls. I haven't seen a

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Speaker 3: single poll of him pulling any anything higher than five

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Speaker 3: or six percent. But on Twitter, you'd think the guy.

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Speaker 3: If elections were run on Twitter dot com, you would

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Speaker 3: already have it in the back.

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Speaker 2: Where is Ted Cruz posit?

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Speaker 3: Ted Cruz has endorsed Chip Roy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Ted Cruis listen, Ted Cruis's name ID in Texas

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Speaker 1: means a lot.

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Speaker 2: It pulls a lot of support. All right, Tony.

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Speaker 1: Where people go to get the best political gossip website

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Speaker 1: on the internet where peple go to breed with your stuff.

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Speaker 3: If you're a Texan and you love political gossip, you

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Speaker 3: have to subscribe to Current Revolt dot com. We're on

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Speaker 3: Twitter at Courage Revolt.

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Speaker 2: Tony, thanks for coming on this podcast, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for the Ask Me Anything segment eighty

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Speaker 1: Oney part of the Ask Me Anything segment. Email me

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Speaker 1: Ryan at Numbers Gamepodcast dot com. Ryan at Numbers Plural,

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Speaker 1: Numbers Gamepodcast dot com. First email comes from Joseph. He said,

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Speaker 1: I'm worried Republicans are in for a big blot in

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Speaker 1: the midterms. Trump keeps endorsing bad candidates and we have

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Speaker 1: not enough to address the economy, is cost of living

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Speaker 1: and caved into the demands of immigration. How bad do

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Speaker 1: you think it will be, Joseph, I think the economy

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Speaker 1: is a big part of it. I know that Susie

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Speaker 1: Wilds had a meeting. This was reported by I think

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Speaker 1: it was Politico. I believe it's Politico. The su Wats

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Speaker 1: had a meeting with Tony Barbrizio, the polster for the president,

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Speaker 1: and members of Congress and candidates, and they emphasize that

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Speaker 1: they need to get something done on healthcare, on the economy,

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Speaker 1: and emphasize tax cuts and bring that up. I think

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Speaker 1: that the economy is really where it is, and it's

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Speaker 1: not because the economy is doing so badly. In some

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Speaker 1: areas of the country. It's not doing great, but it's

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Speaker 1: because anxiety over the country is real. And feelings And

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about Ben Shapiro with this, and I like

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Speaker 1: Ben a lot. Feelings do matter more than facts. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I try to dismiss that in this podcast. I try

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Speaker 1: to give you guys facts and numbers, but feelings matter

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Speaker 1: a lot, and voters do feel anxious, whether we like

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Speaker 1: that or not.

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Speaker 2: And it's just a natural can flip.

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Speaker 1: Though this is what happens all the time, it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be this shocking lesson is that, oh, we're going to

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Speaker 1: lose the House.

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Speaker 2: This always happens like this literally always happens.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, redistricting adds a lot to this as far as

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Speaker 1: how many seats are going to go which way, but

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Speaker 1: the number of swing seats is much smaller.

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Speaker 2: Than it ever was before.

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Speaker 1: So the chance of Democrats getting fifty seats or forty

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Speaker 1: seeds whatever very very minimal to nonexistent. That in mind,

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the aisle, the amount where people

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Speaker 1: could swing is very very very small. There's actually more

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Speaker 1: Democrats in swinging districts than there are Republicans in the

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Speaker 1: next case.

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Speaker 2: Of the next election. Next question comes from Greg.

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Speaker 1: He writes, lately, I know you've been very supportive of

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Speaker 1: Jdvan since you worked on his campaign before, and I

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Speaker 1: could tell very much one to be the Republican nominee

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Speaker 1: European populist aside, since we clearly are not Europe. When

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Speaker 1: you google populism and what shows is the definition of

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Speaker 1: dividing the pure people versus the corrupt elite that represent

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Speaker 1: the general will of the people.

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Speaker 2: That's not what the term of populism is. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Google is wrong.

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Speaker 1: So by the standards, some notable populace would be Fidel

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Speaker 1: Castro and Ugo Chavez. I mean Fidel Castro was never elected,

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Speaker 1: so also not really not a fair assessment, Greg. The

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Speaker 1: two of these people railed against American influence in politicies,

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Speaker 1: most notably in Venezuela to kick out American oil and

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Speaker 1: Fidel Castro to kick out the mafia who ran the casinos.

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Speaker 1: Populism is not actual policy that puts America first. Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has been doing a very nice job with foreign

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Speaker 1: policy a la Marc Rubio and I would definitely not

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Speaker 1: call Donald Trump a populist. That's very strange, Okay, Greg,

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Speaker 1: He's very much a populist. He's very much a realist.

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Speaker 1: That is also true about populous is that because you're

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Speaker 1: not wielded to consistent ideology, like being a conservative, you

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Speaker 1: have more room to sit there and decide how to

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Speaker 1: handle an issue based upon the moment. Would then Jdvan's

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Speaker 1: running completely away from Donald Trump's foreign policy, which is

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Speaker 1: the form policy I believe will shape the next couple

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Speaker 1: of decades, as opposed to say, we will not interfere

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Speaker 1: in anyone's problems, which always becomes our problem regardless. What

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Speaker 1: is your opinion, Ryan, Okay, Greg? Here is there's a

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Speaker 1: couple things. There was a lot to chew on. So

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Speaker 1: first of all, it's not I am not rooting for

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Speaker 1: Jdvans out loud to my audience.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I know him, I've known him for a couple of

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Speaker 1: years now. I still speak to him occasionally. He is

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Speaker 1: the vice president, so it's not a lot. I am

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Speaker 1: giving you guys the numbers as they are. If Jdvans

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Speaker 1: was polling at zero, I would tell you guys, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a chance. I would be completely honest. I

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Speaker 1: don't have he doesn't pay my bills. I have a

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Speaker 1: loyalty to this audience to tell them the truth. The

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Speaker 1: truth is the newest poll that came out in the

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire primary, JD leads fifty three percent to nine

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Speaker 1: against Nikki Haley and seven to Marco Rubio. This Rubio

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Speaker 1: surge is single digits in the mind of voters. Voters

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Speaker 1: vote for the vice president. By the way, on the

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Speaker 1: Democratic side, that same pole had people to Jedge leading everybody.

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Speaker 1: But that's besides the point.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: The truth is that if he runs, he will be

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Speaker 1: the nominee unless there is a major scan on the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration. Unless something happens there was a major scan

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Speaker 1: on this personal light that affects him. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that would even affect it, or voters sour on

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Speaker 1: Trump because he is connected to Trump. Both those things

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Speaker 1: are real, right, so that let me get that part

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Speaker 1: out on the flat. I am I know Jdvans. I

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Speaker 1: like Gdvance. I would love Jadvance to be a president

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Speaker 1: one day. However, when I'm narrating to my audience about something,

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Speaker 1: I am telling you guys something divorced of my emotions

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Speaker 1: because I want you to come off with more knowledge

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Speaker 1: than than you have before this episode came through. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's one. Secondly, when you're talking about populism, populism

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Speaker 1: is a is a argument between those who are the

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Speaker 1: workers and those who are the elite right. That is

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Speaker 1: the main essence of populism. Populism exists though in democratic structures.

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Speaker 1: You cannot call Putin a populist. You cannot call Castro

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Speaker 1: a populist. You cannot call you can call Shavaz a

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Speaker 1: populist when he ran, not when he governed because he

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Speaker 1: suspended elections.

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Speaker 2: You cannot call people who do not have any forms of.

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Speaker 1: Democratic means populists right or Bonn is a populist, Lapen

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Speaker 1: is a populist, Faraj is the populist, Bernie Sanders is

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Speaker 1: a populist. You have both left wing and right wing,

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Speaker 1: so it's accurate to call me but Trump is also

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Speaker 1: a populist, right, It's not an ugly term. Don't don't

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Speaker 1: feel it that way. That's an ugly term. As far

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Speaker 1: as Jad's FORIGN policy, I have to tell you I

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Speaker 1: have had very limited conversations with JD around FORIGN policy

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Speaker 1: throughout all the years that I've known, and we've never

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Speaker 1: really talked about. We talked about the Iraq War, which was,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, a mistake in JD's opinion, a mistake,

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Speaker 1: I believe. So. I believe that He's said over and

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Speaker 1: over again, in Donald Trump's opinion, a mistake. By the way,

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Speaker 1: all these people have come to the consensus of the

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Speaker 1: Iraq War was a mistake. That's what I've really talked about.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his opinion per se is. I

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Speaker 1: have policy disagreements with JD. I have voiced them to

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Speaker 1: him privately on a number of occasions, and I said

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Speaker 1: this is wrong, that's wrong, whatever, and we get into

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Speaker 1: discussions and arguments. He's very open to hearing other opinions,

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Speaker 1: which I like a lot about him. Doesn't always come

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Speaker 1: out with the right answer, but he will hear other

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Speaker 1: opinions aside from the one that he believes whether you

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Speaker 1: like it or not, whether I like it or not,

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Speaker 1: we are in a different phase of politics than we

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Speaker 1: were ten years ago, twenty years ago, or years ago.

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Speaker 1: Rubio is doing a fabulous job in the job he

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Speaker 1: has right now. He, however, is not the Marco Rubio

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Speaker 1: of two thousand and sixteen, the Mark Ruby of twenty

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Speaker 1: ten when he was first elected. He's Mark Ruby four

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Speaker 1: point zero right now. I don't know if there'll be

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Speaker 1: in a different Mark Ruby at five point zero or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if JD is fighting against military interventions

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Speaker 1: everywhere or encouraging them. I know when they leave the room,

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Speaker 1: they're all in the same ticket and I on the

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Speaker 1: same They have the same message, and I would recommend

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Speaker 1: holding back and waiting for Jad to come out with

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Speaker 1: his own foreign policy prescriptions for the world. I don't

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Speaker 1: imagine he's going to leave the Trump administrations as vice

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Speaker 1: as just vice president, not being the nominee, and not

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Speaker 1: be endorsing Trump's intervention. I just don't. I don't see

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Speaker 1: that's possibility. And I will say one more thing, with

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Speaker 1: the Trump intervention. While he's been extraordinarily successfu well in

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Speaker 1: a number of his interventions across the world. From bombing

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Speaker 1: of Iran to the arrest of Maduro to the ceasefire

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Speaker 1: in Israel, Trump has been less aggressive than past presidents

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Speaker 1: one and two. I think that Trump is willing. Trump's

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Speaker 1: willingness to make forum policy his legacy making thing, because

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Speaker 1: he wants a legacy. Every president, by the way, makes

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Speaker 1: their second term a foreign policy is also hurting Republicans

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Speaker 1: because voters do not believe he is focused on the

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Speaker 1: right issues. I think that that's actually a big part

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Speaker 1: of it. But we will see hold back. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to make that very I'm not

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Speaker 1: yelling at you, Greg, I'm just saying to you, I

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Speaker 1: am never doing that. I will tell you when I

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Speaker 1: work for a Canada, when I'm getting paid them, unless

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Speaker 1: you give me a paycheck, even if I know you,

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Speaker 1: even if I like you, if you're screwing up royally,

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Speaker 1: I will tell my audience. If you're pulling a zero,

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Speaker 1: I will tell my audience. I'm not here to sugarcoat anything.

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Speaker 1: I am a brash you know, hard nails New Yorker

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Speaker 1: who doesn't. I mean, I get three Christmas cars a

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Speaker 1: year for a reason. I don't sit there and put

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Speaker 1: it on easy. My friend James Johnson was on this

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Speaker 1: podcast last week told me I thought you were being mean,

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Speaker 1: but you were just being yourself, so he said to

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Speaker 1: me in private, but that is that is just who

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Speaker 1: I am. So I want to make that very very clear.

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Speaker 1: I think your terms of populism are not accurate, and

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Speaker 1: I think that Trump is a populist. And I think

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Speaker 1: as far as JD's FORIGN policy goes, we have to

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Speaker 1: wait and see and hear more from the actual canon himself.

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Speaker 1: Remember also, form policy is constantly changing, because the world's

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Speaker 1: constantly changing. If you like this podcast, please like and

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Speaker 1: subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get

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Speaker 1: this podcast, and on YouTube. It's always great when I

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Speaker 1: see my YouTube numbers coming up.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you all. I will talk to you guys

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Speaker 2: on Monday.