1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown and 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: a bishous ambitious ambition, ambition, ambition, Hey, mandra, just a 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: little glow, a little glow ooh sorry if we're talking 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: about we're glow. 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: There is this, you know, like everybody's now into Korean 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: beauty and I told myself I was not gonna jump on, 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: but there's this bomb like this. 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I should have brought with me this. I saw 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: it on social. 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: And like, I think a lot of people don't realize 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: that if you've got oily skin, oftentimes it looks oil 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: because actually you have dry skin and that's so it's 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: actually not oily. And so sometimes in my t zone, 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: especially during the summertime, because I walk so much, that 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: my skin will. 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Dry out and it will kind of look oily. 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: And I didn't notice how bad it looked until if 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: you ever get your lashes done, in your brain, I 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: was done, and you're under that fluorescent light and they 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: give you the mirror to see and you see your skin. 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: Your skin's like I wish they wouldn't, Like, I don't 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: want to see my skin after a facial. I don't 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: want to see anything. I feel bad for them. 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: Girl, but I've been using this bomb. I'm going to 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: find the like the name of it. It's like, I 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: don't know. 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: It's a Korean beauty. It like little and. 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: Look like basically it's like a face chapstick. And so 29 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: every night I put it like, you know, like T 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: zone girl. 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: I just got my arm. 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: I was done, obviously, and when they brought me the mirror, 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: I said, yes, the. 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Skin was skinning. I said, thank you Korea getting this 35 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: blacker together. 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Aw. But yeah, so I was in Cali for a 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: week and a long ago. Yes, it yes, And it 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: was that if you guys have been listening, you know, 39 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: I bought a ticket to a conference that I had 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: no business being at. It was not for me, but 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: I got really excited because I heard the founder speaking 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm gonna do this. And it 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: was like almost three thousand dollars. Okay, it was less 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: than my mortgage, but more than my daycare bill each month. 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: And then it's all the way in California, right, and anyway, 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: the date was getting closer and closer, and I'm like, 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: what am I going to do? There's no refunds. So 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: I decided I think it was my publisher Krashawn. She said, 49 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: why don't you turn it into a writing retreat, And 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: that's exactly what I did. So on the way to 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: LA I dropped the boys off in Saint Louis with 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: my mama and said bye. And they were there for 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: all week, like seven days, and I went on to 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, Beverly either that or troop Beverly Hills through 55 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: We've seen that trip Beverly Hills. Oh is that like 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: a Okay? That's this is when the millennial and Gen 57 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: XX separates us. Oh my god, I got to put 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: you on Shelley Long Rest in peace. Okay, but I 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: got so lucky. When I tell you, I gave you 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: a tour the Airbnb, Tiffany, I would not shut up 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: about this Airbnb. I was probably annoying everybody, Like I 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: went to the conference one day and like, you know, uh, canodled? No, 63 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: that's what did I do? Schmoozed just like metal with 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: a boob, but okay, yeah, yah yah, not no canoodling, 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: new canodling, just schmoozing. And the next day I went 66 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: back and everybody was like, how's the Airbnb? And I 67 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: was like, damn, I must have been. 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Talking about. 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 3: The whole time. I was like, Okay, I'll find something 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: else to beat my personality today. State farm agents are 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: small business owners too, so they know how to help 72 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: you choose personalized policies that fit your needs, like a 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: good neighbor. State farm is there. Talk to your local 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: agent today. Oh my god. So there's this host in 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills. So she never rents out her guesthouse. Like 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: back in the pool in the pool area, there's a 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: guest house. And I mean it's basically a little retreat. 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: It's just a one bedroom, but I had a bathroom, 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: had everything you needed in the doors. The French doors 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: opened directly onto the stunning pool. And she had the 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: most incredible landscaping for a small yard, just like palm 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: trees and banana leaves and complete like twenty foot hedges 83 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: and a jacuzzi and it was all mine. And she 84 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: told me, she was like, maybe I never rent this out. 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: She unfortunately had some health issues and during the pandemic 86 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: had to close her business down. So now this is 87 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 3: like a little way for her to bring in extra money. 88 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: But she was super scared about it because she lives 89 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: by herself and she's in her sixties. Anyway, it just 90 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: so happened that the one day her son was there 91 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: when he was like, Mom, you have a request, and 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: she was like, I know, I have been ignoring it. 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: And he was like, just she looks nice, go ahead, 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: like say yes, and we are pals. 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Now of course you are. 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was just so special. Oh my god, 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: it was so special. I think I'd discover the hack 98 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: of all life hacks for any families, like forget the 99 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: family vacation, just like forget it, pack up the car, 100 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: take the kids places. No, stop it, No, you're doing 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: it wrong. This is the thing. You book your own vacation. 102 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: Then you go somewhere by yourself, moms, and then the 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: kids you send them together somewhere else like Grandma's house 104 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: or whoever, whatever seems suitable and trustworthy, and then your 105 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 3: husband gets to stay home and do whatever he wants. 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: What you know, what you know is like get I 107 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: came home to two brand new Sono speakers. But you 108 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: know what I mean, I don't want to talk about 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: it. It was worth it, because I swear I was so 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: happy just being alone with all of my brain. I 111 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: fell in love with myself again. I didn't know I 112 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: was a I didn't know you could do that in 113 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: your thirties, like after two kids. I mean, I like myself, 114 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: but I fell in love with me again. I was 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: like I was telling you to when we were talking, 116 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: just I felt exactly how I felt when I was 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: twenty two, traveling being like, you know, different different countries 118 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: and meeting new people and it was so much fun. 119 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: And I just remembered how great I am. 120 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 2: Yes, I like that fun because you are cute. Chatting 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: with you, I was like, look at Mannie. First of all, 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: that place was gorgeous because you don't have to FaceTime. Yeah, 123 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: the pool was amazing. Mandy looks so happy, and yeah, 124 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: we just were just a key a key ing, okay 125 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: king Yes, And honestly, I'm gonna be like girl the 126 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: next time I go to Cali. 127 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like with your friend because. 128 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: I know, I was like, Terry, you don't understand. I 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: kind of have a podcast and like sometimes when I 130 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 3: say stuff, more than one person hears it. So if 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: I talk about this, she said, I can send anyone 132 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: who I think is wonderful. Oh, she would love you. 133 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: She would love to have more black girls at her 134 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: at her at her Airbnb. I know she would. 135 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: Oh she was so. 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: She was one of those white ladies that you just 137 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: you know, I just maybe it's because my mom is white, 138 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: but I just I just loved her. Even though she 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: said problematic things. I just forgave her and I moved on. 140 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, like, she's doing 141 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: what she She's doing what she's doing. It's not my 142 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: job to make her do anything different. Nothing. I was 143 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: not in danger. I love to be tokenized when you 144 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: have that exquisite of a backyard. 145 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: And Loki HAIKEI, I mean my daddy saying plopactic. 146 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not daddy. 147 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm again, I'm going to talk about some racist immigrants 148 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: like oh my gosh, minority is talking about other minorities. 149 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: I will say this though, he has come a long 150 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Nigerian way, because you know. 151 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: He used to be like a gay what is that? 152 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: And now the other time he was. 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I hope Allah chooses Pete Buddha check 154 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: and he was like him and his partner Daisy I said, 155 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: not partner from a Nigerian. 156 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: He said diner. Yeah. I was like and he was 157 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: like always was I like him. 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: He seemed like a good dad, a good I was like, 159 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: oh my god, you know who really turned him around? 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow. 161 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: Oh I think you've told us that before. Rachel Maddow. 162 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. He was like, I think she's gay. I said nothing, definitely, 163 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: And I could tell he was. 164 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: Struggling with her, like, oh my god, like god, she's 165 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: so smile. 166 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: And then he was like all the things I've been told, 167 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: he said, lie, Because. 168 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: I was like, if Rachel's not going to heaven. 169 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: No, no, Sometimes we got to give parents a little 170 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: grace and facecause group at a time about where things 171 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: were not okay, and you know, and of course, certainly 172 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying we got to excuse all 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: the bad behavior. 174 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: But I love you know, we love a turnaround story. 175 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: And so the fact that he said partner, I was like, 176 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: what in the. 177 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: Let me just tell you. Every white person in Beverly 178 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: Hills love to tell me how excited they were about 179 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: Kamala when I they were so proud, including my Airbnb host, 180 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: and she would go to her friend's house and come 181 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: back three sheets to the why just I loved it. 182 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: I just loved her as a character. I just was like, oh, 183 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: you are everything, and she'd be like, we were all 184 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: talking about Kamala and I told her about you know, 185 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: they did the white lady version of the Zoom. 186 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did great. 187 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: It was Glennon Doyle, but to be clear, they were 188 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: coached and the words advised by Lovey, a black woman. 189 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: Love you really m hm. 190 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: She a very hard gig. 191 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: Well, she and Glenna are really close. They've been friends 192 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: for a number of years. And so yeah, when Glenn saw, 193 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: because you know, Glenn is a super ally so when 194 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: went in saw you know, the what black women had done, 195 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: she was like, no, we have to stand up and 196 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: do something. They broke Zoom. I think they had one 197 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: hundred and forty fifty fifty thousand women on Doom and 198 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: kindly they were. 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: It was incredible. 200 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: They raised about two million dollars on that one call alone. 201 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, so I just want to be yes, it 202 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: is and also too, I just want to be I 203 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: love the fact that her name is Joe Cad, Joe Cardie, 204 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: Joe Kate. She's a woman who started the Black Women 205 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 2: Like Women. You know, I'm gonna say her name incorrectly, 206 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: which I hate. 207 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: Take a breath. Find out the. 208 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am gonna find Joe j Okay. I feel 209 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: like I'm still gonna say it wrong. 210 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: Even though do the Google thing where it like reads 211 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: the name out oh maybe sucks or LinkedIn also does that. 212 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes they will put their name up. I love that. 213 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh, but I don't even know how to no. 214 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: There she is okay so ja oh, Joe Taka, j 215 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: O t. 216 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: A k a Okaya Taka. 217 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Yes. 218 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: So I met her at first because I had done 219 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: something with own. 220 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: She worked with Oprah a lot. 221 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: I done something with own some of the years back. 222 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: It was like some mini talk show like Black Women 223 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: in Money, and she was the host. So I met 224 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: her there, Joe Taka. She was so nice, edie. And 225 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: then I actually saw her again. Remember I went to 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: like it was like the International Women's Day or whatever, 227 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: and they held it at the White House all the time. 228 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: So and so I saw her there. 229 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: She was so great. She was she literally took pictures 230 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: of me. She's like, sit on this couch. 231 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: He asked, girl, yes, and so was her m hm, 232 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: so nice. 233 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: And so when I saw that, it was she behind 234 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: kind of like this movement so black women. If I'm 235 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: being candid, I know so many of us heard that 236 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: the current president, Joe Biden, president of Minden, was not 237 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: going to seek re election and nomination. That we were like, 238 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: and he said, you know, I'm throwing my weight behind Kamala. 239 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: I think all of us were like. 240 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, like that would be great, but America 241 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: not America, if you will. 242 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: So I think we're all nervous, like I guess not 243 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: because of her qualifications, but more so. 244 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: Like I don't know, will vote for her? 245 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 246 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: Yes, And then you know, Jotaka was like, girl, we 247 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: are about to do that. 248 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: That same boom, she said black women. She set the 249 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: tone and since then, I've seen white women for Kamala. 250 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: I sawt like there's a there was this, uh, I 251 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: guess wherever Trump has something in Florida, like whatever neighborhood 252 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: they mark, So they did a golf a golf cart 253 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: like like in that area for Kamala. 254 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love that troll him within an 255 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: interest of life America. 256 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean, and all these uber wealthy older white Americans 257 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: that you would think, no way, they're all going to 258 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: vote for no. And so yeah, it has been you know, 259 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: like amazing and so low key high key. When I 260 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: went to the Vice President's residence. Like a member of 261 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: her staff was like, oh, this is before it was announced, 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: and I don't know that even she knew, but anyway, 263 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: they had asked she's on an economic empowerment tour I 264 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: think an economic compairment tour, and they were like, Tipicanly, 265 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: we'd love for you to join her on tour. 266 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: I was like what, And. 267 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 2: You know, I was like, okay, But you know, now 268 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: with all these changes, I don't know what that means 269 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: about being candid because we can all see, like because 270 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: now it's more than an economic empowerment tour and so 271 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what it all would look like or 272 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: even that offers to open I'm certainly talking behind the scenes, 273 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: so you might see your girl on tour with. 274 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: The first you told you. When you told me that 275 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: news the first time, I was like, thank God, it's you. 276 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: Like I think they're doing the right thing when they're 277 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: reaching out to you to be yeah, to be a 278 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: conduit for that message, and I'm so happy for you. 279 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: So, like I said, we'll see because we have you know, 280 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: like it's it's still up in the air because of 281 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: all that's happened. 282 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: That's when I spoken to you know, her office. 283 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: They were like, oh, as you can imagine, it's a 284 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: little scrambly over here, but let's connect this week and 285 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: see like what that might look like. And so I said, girl, 286 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: just let me know, tag me in and like, can 287 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: you imagine when she wins the presidency, I will have 288 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: a video of the President of the United States talking 289 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: about talking hey mommy to my mom. 290 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: Girl, my mother. Their first black president, not just I 291 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: mean sorry, the first black female president and South Asian president. 292 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: My mom is gonna be like, you're not gonna be 293 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: able to tell Sylvia Oli not a damn thing. 294 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, oh my god, I'm so ready And ba 295 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: fam where I told y'all before we even knew about Kamala, 296 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: I said, I'm choosing hope, I'm choosing optimism, and I'm 297 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: lining up all these great guests. We're gonna have the 298 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: most incredible fun time. We're gonna have an actual fun 299 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: time talking about the election and all the issues that 300 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: matter to black women. I cannot wait. 301 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a special Yeah, we're not gonna say. 302 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: We can't say, but I think there's three guests who 303 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: I have been dying to have on the show and 304 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: I am so excited. So get ready it's all gonna 305 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: start in September October, the Road to twenty twenty four. 306 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh huh, but no, cydbar you told me something 307 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: not to be in all your business, which you had 308 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: to say is something you were at this conference that 309 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: you realize something about yourself. 310 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: That attributed to your ability to like be a really 311 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: good negotiator. And it's it's not something that people would 312 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: think do you want to say? It was like, you know, 313 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: it's a two personal don't take it personal. 314 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: I have been I am dying to share it with 315 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: you and shake and thank you to Chris Brown of 316 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Popcorn Finance, my new brother from another mother, brother from 317 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: another mother, because he was the first audience. I worked 318 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: out this, like, uh, this train of thought on while 319 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: we were hiking in the canyons, like you know, trying 320 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: to be cool in California and dying from heat stroke. 321 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: And so I get so butterfly when I when I 322 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: say this, Okay, so I realized why I am so 323 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: effing good at what I do? And you know, Chris 324 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: was like, so where do you think that comes from? 325 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: I've been asked before, like how do you negotiate. I 326 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: was telling him all these tips. He's like, I got 327 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: this agent and he told me one of the deals 328 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: the agent got and I was like, please, here's what 329 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: I would ask for. And he's like, where does that 330 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: come from? And then I was like starting to back 331 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: up to the day before we hung out. I had 332 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: invited I had looked up an old friend from the 333 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: from in the area who was who I met in 334 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: journalism years ago, like full disclosure and husband knows this. 335 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: I used to have a crush on this guy, like 336 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: way back when I was like eighteen or whenever I 337 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: was how old am I now? Twenty years ago? But anyway, 338 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: found out that he had been like really sick just 339 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: generally wanted to like reconnect, and we hung out and 340 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I still have a crum crush. 341 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight is calling. They say you still 342 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: got a crush, and I was like, oh my god, 343 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: I'm not dead. But also I'm like, I'm a married 344 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: woman and I love my husband, so no, so what 345 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: did I decide to do. Most people, I realized, would 346 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: just would just like, I don't know, stop hanging out 347 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: with them and just you know. But then like that 348 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 3: never like whatever. I decided to tell him why I 349 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: didn't want to hang out. The next day, I was like, 350 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: and I was, and I was just like, hey, I 351 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: gotta be honest. Kind of have a crush on you. 352 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: I realize that's not okay. You got a girlfriend, I 353 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: have a husband and two children, but like, you know, 354 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: let's just be honest. We talked about how life was 355 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 3: too short, and I was like, I'm just letting you know, 356 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 3: canceling your invite for tomorrow at the pool, like you're 357 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: not coming, have a good life. And I sent it 358 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: and I was so like, this is the part of 359 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: me that felt like, oh my god, I still got it, 360 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 3: Like I'm still that bold just do the scary thing, 361 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: jump off a cliff, but make it a personal conversation 362 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: instead of an actual cliff kind of girl. And I 363 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: was telling Chris about this and he was dying, you guys, Chris, 364 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: if you've ever seen a person just folden on themselves 365 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: like he was a sheet of paper, And me telling 366 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: him what I told my friend, He was like, why 367 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 3: did you do that? And he was so deeply uncomfortable 368 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: with it, and I realized, like that's my adrenaline high. 369 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: I love it. Love. I love saying something out loud 370 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: that nobody expects, like at a one to one. So 371 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: and that was not my first time. I was like, 372 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm having a memory now when I was fifteen years old, 373 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 3: Like I had been telling boys I like them just 374 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: for the hell of it, for the thrill of it, 375 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: and asking them on dates since I was fifteen. And 376 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: this is the first time I publicly admitted this. But yeah, 377 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: when I was fifteen, there's a boy on the bus, 378 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: as there are and I just fell in love with 379 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: the back of his head. I thought he was so cute. 380 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: I was brand new to the school and I don't know, 381 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: being new to the school, I felt like, nobody knows 382 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 3: you like reinvent yourself. Ask a boy out fifteen. I 383 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: don't know. I think I watched too much Oprah after school, 384 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: but something. So, how do you feel in your body 385 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: right now, Tiffany, are you feeling. 386 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: I am yes, because you know me, I'm literally the 387 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: exact opposite. 388 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: So I am this terrified, scary. 389 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: Remember I told you what have Pinatier Dreiell passed away 390 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: because he was like my magic mirror on the wall 391 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: was like, girl, the reflection. 392 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: Is always what big unipo and then without Darrell hair 393 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: was like, who don't know how I look? 394 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: And I was feeling very n hinged, and dating and 395 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: all the things was so stressful. I thought I was 396 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: going to have like many panic attacks, which I did. 397 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: So you saying this is so the antithesis, Like I 398 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: admire this so much because I could, like a man 399 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: would have to tell me, hey, I really like you 400 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: and find you really attractive. 401 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: And I'm still like, you're. 402 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: Talking to me here the girl behind me, like, it's 403 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: so don't continue that you told this fifteen year old boy, 404 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: And first of all, I'm laughing at them about that. 405 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: I was also fifteen. Let's speak clear on that. Oh 406 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: my god, they going to clip out of that without 407 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: the context. 408 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: Oh my god, when you were fifteen, that's so relatable. 409 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: I have definitely fallen in love with the back of 410 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: my boy's head like a background. I love the way 411 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: his haircurs right here, girl, who is he even? 412 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: Oh my god, So you told him? No, I didn't 413 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: tell him. I straight top asked him out. So okay, 414 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: it was the week of Valentine's Day. I might have 415 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: told my sister that was my plan, and she might 416 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: have told me please don't do that, but I was like, 417 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: m and I just you know, I'm such an imaginative 418 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: person on the bus, I just imagine this whole storyline 419 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: where I was going to go up to him at 420 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: his locker and I'd be like, hey, so, I like you, 421 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: would you ever want to go out on a date? 422 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: And then I did it. I walked, I followed him 423 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: a little backpacks on, you know, my little pay left shoes, 424 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: click a clock cook to his locker and I was like, hey, 425 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: so and so, yeah, I think you're really cute. Would 426 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: you ever want to go on a date with me? 427 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: And and here's the thing, and I'll just I'll stop 428 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: the story then and now we're married. No, that's not 429 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: what happened, but I'll tell you before I get to 430 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: what happened next. All I have to say is, for me, 431 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: it is not about what they say, like say I 432 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: like you too, I don't like you, like get the 433 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 3: f away from me. It's not about that. For me, 434 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: it's the thrill of like just saying the truth out 435 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: loud and just like not dying after, Like you're actually 436 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: not going to bloat into flames if you put yourself 437 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: out there in that way. Anyway, he had a girlfriend 438 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: and he was super nice about it, and he was like, actually, no, 439 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: I have a girlfriend. She goes to different school. And 440 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, cool, see you around, see you 441 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: in homeroom. And that was the first time. And I 442 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: have done oh my god, I have done that multiple 443 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: times in my life. Sometimes when we're working out, Like 444 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: right before I met Enrique, I was on the war path. 445 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm by me a mate in New York. 446 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: I really no, I'm not kidding. I was telling Chris. 447 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, Chris, Oh, Chris, bless his heart. I think 448 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: I gave him heart failure. He's a very nice boy anyway, 449 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: But I'm like, yeah, I just kind of like would 450 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: decide I didn't want to waste time. I mean, it's 451 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: not wasting time to have a really good friend, you 452 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like, I love meeting new people, 453 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: but when you actually develop feelings, it's quite uncomfortable to 454 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: be in that presence, like especially if they're unrequited, requitted requited. 455 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: So for me, it was just like, let me just 456 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: see if this is going anywhere, because if it's not, 457 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like continue bringing my energy, my sparkle. 458 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: I'm fabulous, just like give that energy to someone else, 459 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 460 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: You are and I just I am I that so much. 461 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: And I can see that in grown Mandy now and 462 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: how you negotiate on your own behalf business and career 463 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: and otherwise. 464 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: There's I mean, it's exactly the same rush of just 465 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: telling someone And this is just me saying I was 466 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: gonna do it, my brown, my brown boost, but I 467 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: challenge you even like and it does. I don't believe 468 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: there's any shame in that as a grown woman. Yes 469 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm married, Yes I have a kid, but like I'm 470 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: not dead, Like we're adults, you know, So just saying like, hey, 471 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: I really have like a crush on you, or whatever 472 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: you want however you want to say it, Okay, maybe 473 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: don't do that. I am a little cuckoo for coconuts 474 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: Coco clubs. I know that you don't need to tell. 475 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: But for me, it was just like it was a 476 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: little bit. It was so thrilling, and it was just 477 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 3: like I it just reminded me how bold and awesome 478 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: I can be and beautiful, oh yeah, bold and beild 479 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: and beautiful. And then I and then you know, Chris 480 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: was asking me more about my you know, negotiating when like, 481 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 3: as for creators, I had just given a talk at 482 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: this women in Money event and it was all about 483 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: how to It's called bank your brand, so it's about 484 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: how you can negotiate on your behalf get brands like 485 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: all of that. And I said, I think I finally 486 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: have the answer. I'm just I love that adrenaline rush. 487 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: I can I can withstand it, like I can withstand 488 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: the dread and the anticipation and all of that, and 489 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: I can do it and I can walk away and 490 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: just coming down from that high. Ugh, there's nothing like it. 491 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: And Chris was like, I know you probably skydive before 492 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: having you. I was like, yeah, you have paragliding, Yes, 493 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: skydiving paragliding. So I hitchhiked down. I hitchhiked, you know, 494 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: I said yes to a boy who asked me to 495 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: go hitchhiking up and down the coast of Chili. I 496 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, cool, sounds good. Eighteen wheeler would love 497 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: to tag along. 498 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: So one thing I really admire too is that a 499 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: lot of people would have one felt the crush, two 500 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: not said anything to the crush, and then three not 501 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: said anything to their partner, But you told your partner. 502 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: Maybe I just talked too much. Now, yeah, I told him. 503 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: I was like, because I wanted him to know what 504 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: an incredible week I had. I wanted him to know 505 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: how amazing this was for me to just like to 506 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: like be by myself and to and to listen. He 507 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: always has my location anyway, like there's no Also the 508 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: best thing about my husband is just like how little 509 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: he he how he knows like I'm ninety nine percent 510 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: just talk and like just like tap dancing and like, 511 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: you know, I just say all I see things all 512 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: the time to try to like get a rise out 513 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: of him, and he just doesn't give me any reaction. 514 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: They called they called the beige flag. 515 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: The beige flag. Oh yeah, he's like, he's. 516 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: Just like, so, how did that conversation go with the 517 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: girls who are like, ah. 518 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: Wait it went? 519 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: Man? 520 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: I wish it was exciting. I was just like I 521 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: couldn't I couldn't contain it. I was like, I have 522 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: to tell you something. And I told him and I 523 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 3: was like, nothing happened, blah blah blah blah blah, and 524 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: he was just he just made this face. He was 525 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: just like, okay, so about these are rapists. We were 526 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: going to the restaurant. No, I'm not kidding. He's like, 527 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: what kind of a rippa do you want? Are you 528 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: going to do? Going on dynasts take that's all he 529 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 3: knows you. 530 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: He's like, girl, this is my girl, and so you know, 531 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: but I love that, Like I think, I think it's 532 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: important that people in healthy relationships show like you know, 533 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: because it's it's not unhealthy to be like, oh my gosh, 534 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: that person's really cool. And it's also not unhealthy to 535 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: tell your partner like, you know, you have a say. 536 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 2: What that signals to me is that you have a 537 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: safe space to have that conversation with h Yeah, you know, 538 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 2: because some places couldn't, like some some partners would absolutely 539 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: blow up. 540 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't want you to go by yourself. 541 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: You can't ever go out of there. 542 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: And it's like it shows the health that you have 543 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: in yourself, but also the healthy relationship we have with him, 544 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: and so no, I just love that. 545 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: And I love that you can. 546 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: Trace your ability to navigate the hard financial conversations to 547 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: being able to advocate for yourself when it came to you, 548 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: like your romantic interests as a young woman. That's like 549 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: so critical, you know, And so I think so many 550 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: of your whole are raising, you know, young people, especially girls, 551 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: this sense of confidence to instill in them because you 552 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: might think it's just this, it's not. It's going to 553 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: follow them into the future about how they feel about 554 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: themselves when they're six and ten and fifteen. 555 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Is how you feel about yourself in the boardroom when. 556 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: You're thirty and forty five and fifty, it absolutely matters, 557 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: Like I am a testament to I had to claw 558 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: my way back to like feeling good about myself because 559 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: I was allowing things to happen in business that ought not. 560 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: To be because I was like, well, maybe just I 561 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: just kind of saw it. Maybe I just like let 562 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: me just be easy and let me just be and so. 563 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 2: Losing out because I wasn't bold as like as I 564 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: was deserving to be for myself. And so no, I 565 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: love that, and honestly I admire that so much, Mane. 566 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: I think underlying I kind of sensed that in you, 567 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: like I probably didn't have the wording for it. And 568 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: it's like one of the things I like, I really 569 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: love most about you is that the sense of like, girl, 570 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: if it could be gotten, I'm gonna get it. 571 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: You know, well I don't get it. Sometimes I just 572 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: say it, I want it. 573 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm okay. 574 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, you know, you missed one hundred percent 575 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 3: of the shots you don't take. It's literally the tagline 576 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: yeah and I and I. It's just the adrenaline rush. 577 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's exactly why you see 578 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: people like do the cliff, like the base jumping, where 579 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: you just hurl yourself off a cliff. It goes against 580 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: everything and your anatomy, like your biology to put yourself 581 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: in that kind of peril. And I don't think there's 582 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: that much different. There's not that much difference between like 583 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: negotiating or just asking for more, or going going after 584 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: an opportunity or going after a crush whatever. And you know, again, 585 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: Chris love him so much. He listened to all of 586 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: this and then he was he was like, you won't 587 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: tell your husband. I was like, yeah, shut up, just 588 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: it's fine, it's fine, keep biking. And what was it 589 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: that he said? He was like, oh, I'd be too scared, 590 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: And I'm like, but that's the thing. I'm always scared. 591 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm all. 592 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: I was touch I mean, I was like, I was 593 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: awkward and you know, and nervous to say the thing 594 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: out loud, you know, and to the guy. And I'm 595 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: nervous what every time I negotiate, And it didn't it Also, 596 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: I think it helped matters that the day that I 597 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: did that, I had helped two badass Mandy moneymakers with 598 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: their negotiations. They both got offers on the table, one 599 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: for like forty K more than she was making, one 600 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: for thirty K more than she was making. And every 601 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: time I'm negotiating with them, I still get a little nervous. 602 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna ask for more, and like 603 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: they have to do it, you know. And I just 604 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: try to tell them I can coach them and what 605 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: to ask for and all of that. But at the 606 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: end of the day, it's them picking up the phone 607 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: and calling or sending that email, and I just I 608 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 3: never lie about it's gonna be scary. The point is 609 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: push through the fear and do it anyway. And that 610 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: I and that's the hard part. It's not because you're scared, 611 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: it's because you're too afraid that you won't survive the 612 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: fear like to push through it. 613 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: Ooh, you think you won't, so the fear. 614 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: You think the fear is going to consume you, But 615 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: really if you don't. On the other side of that 616 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: fear is freedom. Whatever happens, you said it, you did it. 617 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: You know the outcome. So I will. Nine times out 618 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: of ten, I'm walking through that fear fire and I 619 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: will be so much happier and free on the other side. 620 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: So Beverly Hills, Baby, Beverly Hills, Mandy, you might be 621 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: seeing me again. I don't know, but I'm definitely going 622 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: to try to incorporate so much more solo travel because 623 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: I just love hanging out with myself and being in 624 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: new places and I don't get to. Not that I 625 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: don't get to, but yeah, I just haven't had the 626 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: space for that, and I want to make more of that. 627 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: It felt really damn good. And I hope my kids 628 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: also will see like me coming back so happy going 629 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: and traveling alone and being brave and all of that. 630 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: I hope to instill that in them as well. 631 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: I love that. 632 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think on that note, we're gonna take a 633 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: break and come back with some brown break brown booz 634 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: All right right back, he off, we pay some bills, 635 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: and we're back, and now it's time to boost up. 636 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Break up, boost up, break up, boost up, break up? Boost? 637 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Are you gonna boost? Are you gonna break? What you're 638 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: gonna do to do what you're gonna take? So and 639 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: then I decide I'm gonna go first, and I'm. 640 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: Going to do a boost because I have been and 641 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: my boost is for transitions, because they're a bitch. 642 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. 643 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: I've been going through a lot of transition obviously, but 644 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: lately more there's just been so many changes, from leaving 645 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: my house that I build my husband to this condo 646 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: where largely I'm by myself, although I did ask my 647 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: baby sister Lisa to stay with me for the summer 648 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: so I can make an easier transition of it here. 649 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: Even transitioning you know into like dating and like partnership again. Business, 650 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of transitions happening in business that are scary. 651 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: The growth is is scary but necessary. Even Brann and Bishen, 652 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna be transitioning. We have some like exciting transitions 653 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: that we're going to have. You guys, you know that 654 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: really just going to take Brann and bishon to the 655 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: next level, and something that you said earlier in. 656 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: The app really sparked that. 657 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: I think sometimes people look at you, Mandy, or people 658 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: like you, and they think that you're doing the thing unafraid, 659 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: and I think, really a good aha moment is that, like, oh, 660 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: so Manby is afraid, but she's just always, you know, 661 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: like that she has just reminded herself that the fear 662 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: doesn't kill, you know, and that if you can get 663 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: past it, then like, you know, what's on the other 664 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: side typically is so much much better. And so it 665 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: has been a lot I'm not gonna lie so many changes, 666 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean, but now I couldn't even sleep here by myself, 667 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: like the first night, like coming to the condo. 668 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: I had bought this place. 669 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: It took me a while to even start to renovate, 670 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: and then even the renovations, I was throwing monkey wrenches 671 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: left and. 672 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: Right to slow it down. 673 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: And then even when it's done, I refused to come 674 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: here to like I would come here during the day, 675 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: but I could not sleep here. And then I asked 676 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: for my therapist said, why don't you ask for someone 677 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: to spend the night? First few nights until my sister 678 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: Lisa did, and it made it so much easier. And 679 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: now I'm not gonna lie, like I really love it here. 680 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: I mean it is beautiful and designed exactly to my 681 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: rich auntie afrocentric traveling specifica. I mean, it is amazing 682 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: here and it feels like home. And when I go 683 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: back to the house, that still feels like home too. 684 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 2: So I think I thought I was gonna be like 685 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: stripped and ripped away, and even now more so, like 686 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: I was talking to my partner, I know, it's crazy 687 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: because it's like three years ago. You know, Drop passed 688 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: away three years ago, and three years I know, isn't 689 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: that crazy. 690 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I didn't think I was gonna 691 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: be here. 692 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: I just was like wishing for me to go to 693 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: sleep and not wake up, you know, like that was usually. 694 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: That was like my ardent prayer, Like I could just 695 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: go to sleep and not wake up. That would be great. 696 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: Thanks God. So I'm up again. 697 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: Great you're obviously not listening, like for real, our turbulence 698 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: on a plane. I was like, if that's what we're 699 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: gonna do, let's do it. I mean that's what I 700 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: used to think. So the fact that I'm here is 701 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: a miracle itself, because I just felt like everything went 702 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 2: away when he went away. But the fact that I'm 703 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: here and that I have found like a partner again, 704 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I don't I'm still in this 705 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 2: weird space where, like, you know, I've had an amazing marriage. 706 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to getting married again, but I don't 707 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: feel the urgency that I did in my thirties. You 708 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: know how that goes. I just feel like, I mean, 709 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: if that happens, great, and if it doesn't, okay, But 710 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: I will say that I'm in a really healthy, happy, 711 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: communicative partnership that builds on all of the amazing love 712 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: and lessons that I learned from Jerell. Like I could 713 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: not have this partnership without what I had with Jerrell, 714 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, because he taught me, He really healed me 715 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: and taught me what healthy relationship look like. And then 716 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: from there I got to now experience what I'm experiencing now, 717 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: and he's just loving and lovely and so much grace 718 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: to grieve whenever, and so yeah, and so I just think, like, 719 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: and it was hard because I made him work JOm. 720 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a lot of therapy, Like doctor green. 721 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot. She's like, well, wow, wow, 722 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: would he benefit from I knew. 723 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 3: I knew when you guys early in your relationship when 724 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 3: y'all were reading the Attached book, Yes, and like he was. 725 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: Y'all were meeting weekly to discuss chapters. And I was like, oh, 726 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: this boy is in it, Like is he has whooked? 727 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: She has him right where she wants him. Why are 728 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: you here? Go away? 729 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: What an amazing subch I just want to say that, 730 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: like you know. And so I thought to myself, like, 731 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: is it a portrayal? Like transition? It's another transition, like 732 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: if I care and love someone else, is this a 733 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 2: portrayal to like my love and care for Jirelle, Because 734 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: that's a transition too, And doctor Renold reminds me that 735 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: it's it's different, You're not. 736 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: One of the best kind of like ways that. 737 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: She reframed it is that do you know anybody with children? 738 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: I said yes, and I think I actually brought up you, Mandy, 739 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: and she said, well, you know, I'm sure if you 740 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: would ask like your friend, your sister or your friend 741 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 2: Mandy when their first kid of ride, they were like, 742 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: I don't think I can love another human being more 743 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 2: than this little baby right here, Like my heart is 744 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: so full. It's just I didn't know this kind of 745 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 2: love is possible. It just unfolded something, right. And then 746 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: they had baby number two, and it wasn't like, ooh, 747 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: so sorry, mabe number two. Baby number one took up 748 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: all the space, so you're gonna have to figure you're 749 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: gonna have to live on love scraps. 750 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: No, she said, what love does is that it increases 751 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: your capacity for more love. 752 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: It really does. And that was like okay, and she 753 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: was like, that's why someone can have a child, love 754 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: that child so much. Think I could not possibly love 755 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: anybody like this, have another child to be like and 756 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: here we are again. And so she said, because you 757 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: were so loved well loved by Jirell, and because you 758 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: loved Durell so much, it increased your capacity to love 759 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: and be loved again. So this is not an erasure. 760 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: This is an add on, you know. And I just 761 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: was like, okay. So that helped a lot with the 762 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: guilt of like is it okay to continue living when 763 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: he has not? 764 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: You know? 765 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, And just like transition, with transition, you know, 766 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: there's just financial transitions, you know, like my company has 767 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: the opportunity to just explode. And so even that, like, 768 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be open. And I hope what 769 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: you guys took away from the earlier episode or earlier 770 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: in the episode is that. 771 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: That there is no separation. 772 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: That the way if I'm not open to emotional and 773 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: mental and like transition, then it also like affects the 774 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: way I earn and manage my money. 775 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: It's like where you're closed here, you're closed in general. 776 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: And so I'm realizing that like in order for me 777 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: to have access to all the good things financial and otherwise, 778 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 2: I have to really be open and to despite the fear, 779 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: move forward. 780 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I'm just grateful. I'm just grateful for 781 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: the good people in my life. 782 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: I think by you, Mandy, I mean we have been 783 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: through a lot, girl, I have been through a lot. 784 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: I think are. 785 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: I would say the most. I mean I believe the 786 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: best is the best is yet to come. Anyway, I 787 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: believe it's all ahead of us. But I also think 788 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 3: that thank God for this show because because we really 789 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 3: have a time capsule, I mean, the most action packed 790 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: years for our existence. 791 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean. 792 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: All of back Mondays. If you want to know about 793 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 3: old Mandy and old Tiffany. I mean. 794 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: I buy my pack panties from Target or if my 795 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: girl at least go to marshl That was like. 796 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 3: You know, I don't want a baby. No, I can't 797 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: get enough. I want to two more. 798 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I just like, you know, I just 799 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: wanted to dedicate my my brown boost to transitions and 800 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: say I'm so grateful for you. Do Wan I said, 801 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: I know we are podcast official. 802 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: Do Wan is the one? 803 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: Wan is the one? I said, do Wan is the one? 804 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 3: Do Wan is one? All? 805 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: I know because I said, because we've been like keeping 806 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: it low, and he's just like, oh, let me find 807 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 2: out that. Like you know how like many usually the 808 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 2: ones that don't want to he said, I'm this close, Tiffany, 809 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: I'm not the post. I'm about the post on social 810 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, Like, why does it matter 811 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: if people know? He's like, I'm so proud of you. 812 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 2: I'm proud to be with you. Yeah, and I don't 813 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 2: want to have to hide it. I'm like, well, I'm 814 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: not hiding it. I'm just private. It's not a man, 815 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm just private. And so yeah, I guess. 816 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 3: To the fee post him in the feed let him 817 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 3: know we slow, but like, yeah, so storys are all 818 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 3: around me like a little story I tell. 819 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: So that is my boost. 820 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 3: I'm going to co sign your boost because I don't 821 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 3: want to follow that, and I think it was it 822 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 3: was a co boost And I love you so I 823 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: was going to use a bad word. I love you 824 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 3: so much genuinely. 825 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: I don't love you too many for real. 826 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: That's so grateful if you would have told them, I 827 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: don't think that anyone, because I mean, yeah, just to 828 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 2: think of where we are now, like the growth, you know, 829 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 2: the friendship up, the down, the just yeah, this has 830 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: been like this podcast has been such a blessing something. 831 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: That I was like, okay, you know, but it's been 832 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: like this. 833 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 2: Constant, you know, in my life, and as a results, 834 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: so have you and our friends who has just grown 835 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: and developed in ways I could not have imagined when 836 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: we first decided, like. 837 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: Let's do this thing. You know. 838 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 3: So I love you too, girl, We love you, ba 839 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 3: fam Yes, love you so much. Please leave a review 840 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 3: for us if you're out there in the internet streets. 841 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna see if we've got any. Did you read 842 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: that review that I texted you to wasn't it funny? 843 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: Did you text me? 844 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: There's like several texts that you have not got. 845 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: It's been so crazy. I am don't worry. I'm gonna 846 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. 847 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 3: No, okay, this one oh it was dropped the name 848 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: Sis from car Kayla Ray and Kayla Ray and said, 849 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 3: drop the name Sis. You ladies give me life. I 850 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 3: seriously consider you both my aunties whose advice I actually 851 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 3: listened to. I appreciate the kindness. Excuse me, I appreciate 852 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 3: the kindness, tough love and everything in between. I came 853 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: here to leave a good review, obviously, but also to 854 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 3: say drop the name Sis. We want to know who 855 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 3: was trying not to pay Tiffany for her speaking engagements. 856 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: I don't like to drop the name because sometimes they'd 857 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: be coming back around, and I don't want to be like, 858 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: you know, but for your snocky mouth, we was gonna 859 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: pay you. 860 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: So we don't want just a good punchline to block blessings, 861 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And our dollar signs and 862 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 3: then diva six number number numbers, says I adore the podcast. 863 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 3: These are my besties. I have learned so much listening 864 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 3: to them, just like having a conversation with good friends. 865 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 3: I'm so invested and I look forward to every episode. 866 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 3: These women are family, that's all. That's like, you can't. 867 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 3: There's no better compliment than that for me, not a 868 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: personal finance podcast, Like come on, I was saying that 869 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: about dr Show who Who. 870 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: We all. 871 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: So love y'all bee fam Until next time, check us 872 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 3: out Monday, Wednesday and Fridays. 873 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: Bye bye