1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This is the primal screen of a dying regime. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: these people. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: You're not got a free shot. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 3: All these networks lying about the people, the people have. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 4: Had a belly full of it. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: try to do everything in the world to stop that, 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: And where do people like that go to share the 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: big line? 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 5: Mega media? 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 6: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 6: these people had a conscience. 15 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 16 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: If that answer is to save my country, this country 17 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: will be saved. 18 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 5: War Room, use your host, Stephen kna. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: It's Friday, fourteen March in the year of Our Lord 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. This afternoon the official surrender of the 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: the Senate. The Democrats in the Senate as they refused 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: to try to shut down President Trump's government will be 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: eight centers think breaking cloture. 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Remember last night when he was getting lit up. 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: We started the show in the cold open with Chris 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: Hayes and not letting up, but kind of saying, hey, 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: asking Trumer, how. 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: Can this happen? 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna, You're gonna, You're going to break 30 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: the spirit of our activists. 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: The number one reason he had. 32 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: He says, Hey, I'm so afraid that Trump will shut 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: down the courts, and right now that's where we're winning. 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: John, You joins us. 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: John, First off, can you just give a little bit 36 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: of your background before we get into the meat of this. 37 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Can you just give us tell us what your experience 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: is in this entire area. 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 7: Well, the most. 40 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: Important thing about me is I grew up in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 41 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: where I learned to fight. 42 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 7: But I grew up in Philly. 43 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: I went to college law school, I clicked for Justice 44 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, and then I went 45 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: to teach law at Berkeley, where I've been for most 46 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: of his time, aside from a few off to work 47 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: in the Justice Department, where I was on the day 48 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: of the nine to eleven attacks, and I worked on 49 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: the counter terrorism response to nine to eleven. And then 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: I've spent my whole career studying their presidency and war 51 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: powers and thinking about what you've mentioned, the unitary executive 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: theory of the presidency. 53 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about that. 54 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: We have we've talked about this now for a year 55 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: in the show and try to get the activists. We're 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: an activist audience, the war room posse. And you know, 57 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: one thing we've talked about is that he's chief executive officers. 58 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: He gets to make these certain decisions, which is there 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: fighting in court right now. He's the commander in chief 60 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: of the armed services, the uniform military, but he's also 61 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. And this has 62 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: kind of been changed, you know this, They kind of 63 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: threat the constitution after Watergate. One of the reasons I 64 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: wanted to have you on here in the middle of 65 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: this fight. You've written a magnificent piece kind of about that. 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: And if we can get that, if we put in 67 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: the chat rooms right now, why John's here and put 68 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: it up. Walk us through this piece about is this 69 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: is what is happening now with the entire broad assault 70 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: of President Trump's doing on this unitary executive theory is 71 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: part of this to end the sins of the Watergate reforms, Sir. 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 7: Stephen Steve, I wish I had put it that way. 73 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: I think in the wake of Watergate, our system overreacted 74 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: huge democratic majorities in Congress thought the problem was excessive 75 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: presidential power, and they passed a series of statutes to 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: try to pinion down the president, like Gulliver and Lilliput. 77 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: And so I think what President Trump's doing if you 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: look at the broad picture, the spending cuts, the reductions 79 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: in force, the limitations on the regulatory power of the state, 80 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: the reassertion of control and over the Justice Department and 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: the FBI. 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 7: What he's doing is he's trying to end those Watergate. 83 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: Reforms because he's got some idiosyncratic view the presidency of 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: his own that nobody knows about. What he's trying to 85 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: do is restore the presidency to the original vision that 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: our founders had. 87 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 7: Our founders are the ones, as. 88 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: You pointed out, who put all the power of enforcing 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: federal law in a single person, the president. The Constitution 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: doesn't mention anybody else. Everyone in the executive branch therefore 91 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: is an assistant to the president in carrying out federal law. 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: And therefore, as Alexander Hamilton first said back in the 93 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: first Washington administration, and a Supreme Courts are repeatedly affirmed 94 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: after that, Therefore, the president sets the law enforcement agenda. 95 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 7: He must be able. 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: To remove fire and control all the subordinates in the 97 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: executive branch so that there is a unified approach to 98 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: enforcing the law. What Watergate Congress has tried to do 99 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: is they tried to cut the links between the UF President, 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 3: who's the only democratically accountable official in the executive branch, 101 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: and all the cabinet agencies, these boards they want. Congress 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: wanted all those agencies to be independent. They want all 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: those bureaucracies to rule the name of expertise and technocracy 104 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: and not for the democratically elected president. 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: I just want to go over this again, because we're 106 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: a huge believer here. Ideas have consequences, and once people 107 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: get the intellectual construct, then the news just doesn't seem. 108 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: So random every day. You can kind of put it 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: in there. 110 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: The framers of the Constitution believe that the office of 111 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: the president and the individual in that office would be, 112 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: besides being the chief executive of the government and being 113 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: commander in chief of the armed forces, the other role 114 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: would be chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. And 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: that carried all the way up until Wardgate and all 116 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: the reforms of Wartergate. We kind of broke that, and 117 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: the Justice Department, the FBI, it kind of became, you know, 118 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: they were hived off in independent agencies. 119 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: Is that generally correct? 120 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: So the Watergate didn't fully make DOJ and FBI independent 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: the way they've made say, these inspector General's independent, or 122 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: the CFPB independent, or all these alphabet agencies. But they 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: tried to make it hard, for example, to remove the 124 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: FBI director. They gave the FBI director a fixed term. 125 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: They tried to create this notion that the Attorney General 126 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: and the enforcement of the law should somehow be separate 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: from the president. And the worst, I think the worst 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: and of all the Watergate Congress created the Special Council law, 129 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: and the Special Council actually did create a prosecutor who 130 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: could not be fired by the president unless he or 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: she committed a crime, which is extraordinary if you think 132 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: about it, because the core, as you said, the core 133 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: power of the president is chief executive, commander. 134 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 7: In chief, and then chief magistrate, chief enforcer of the law. 135 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: You bring in there also the administrative state. So every 136 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: night on MSNBC and every day in the New York 137 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: Times on CNN, it's all about Trump's a fascist Trump 138 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: is leading us down to an authoritarian you know, you're 139 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: having the authoritarian breakthrough every day. They've got a different 140 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: part of how Trump is trying to become a strong man, etc. 141 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Isn't he doing when you look at it in the 142 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: legal frame as the framers will look at it's trying 143 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: to take on a post constitutional administrative state that is 144 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: nowhere in the Constitution and trying to deconstruct that and 145 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: take actions like withholding money or change or reprogramming money, 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: or things like letting people go. And last night yesterday 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: in San Francisco and then in Maryland, we basically have 148 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: challenge whether the president of United States can actually do 149 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: a reduction in force. So it's not him trying to 150 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: be a fascist, it's him actually trying to go back 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: to the core documents of the Constitution against this administrative state. 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 7: I see it that way. 153 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: The people who chose to make the presidency a singular 154 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: office that concentrates all the power in person were the founders. 155 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: They thought that you had to concentrate the power in 156 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: a single president because that would make the president accountable 157 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: but also give the government the advantages of acting with speed. 158 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: The decision or dispatch that's the phrase that Alexander Hamilton used. 159 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: He wanted to have energy in the executive which he 160 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: called the defining character of good government. So the Watergate Congresses, 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: what they wanted to do, actually, this goes starts well 162 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: beyond Watergate. Watergate's almost the culmination of it, but it 163 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: starts with Woodrow, Wilson and FDR and LBJ. What they 164 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: wanted to do was dilute the presidency. They wanted to 165 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: disperse all that power. They wanted the executive branch to 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: become unaccountable, and then to fill it with a lot 167 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: of Congress's powers, because the whole idea to them was 168 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: give the power to experts, give the power to technocrats, 169 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: this vast administrative state, and detail from any kind of 170 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: political accountability to voters. 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 7: And I would say they succeeded. 172 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: I think that's the world we've been living in for 173 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: the last almost one hundred years now ever since the 174 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: New Deal. And what Trump's fight is on a day 175 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: to day level, it's this, as he said, spending here, 176 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: firing people there. But the bigger picture is he is 177 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: trying to restore the Constitution and the executive branch back 178 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: to that original founding vision and reject this progressive constitution 179 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: we've had for about the last hundred years. 180 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: So we talk every day here about flood, the zone 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: and the tenatrol of things he's doing executive ors, executive actions, 182 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: other things, or Churchill's action this day that gets back 183 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: to dispatch and energy in the executive But you can 184 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: see in San Francisco at the Frodo judge in Maryland 185 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: in with Schumer, what they're trying to do is slow 186 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: this whole process down. Was talking to Mike Davis in 187 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: the previous hour. This doesn't look like he's going to 188 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: get resolved quickly. I don't see this getting into any 189 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: emergency at expandit a docket at any appellate court or 190 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: emergency docket of the Supreme Court. So are they are 191 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: these radical federal judges kind of winning now and trying 192 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: to slow down and take out the energy, absorb the 193 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: energy of President Trump's drive every day to sort this 194 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: mess out. 195 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: Sir? 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 3: I think the founders would be surprised to see what's 197 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: going on now that people are rushing to court to 198 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: get federal judges like out here in San Francisco where 199 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: I am, or in Maryland or Rhode island and have 200 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: a single judge stop the entire federal government nationwide from 201 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: basically implementing personnel policies about how the executive branch is 202 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: to be run internally. 203 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 7: This is not about the individual rights of somebody. 204 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: This is about just how the president chooses to run 205 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: the executive branch. And so I think what Cogno founders 206 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: have thought would be Congress would be the main bulwark. 207 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: If there was going to be a fight over the 208 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: president's powers, it would occur between Congress and the president. 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: Going to courts is a sign of political weakness, actually, 210 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: it seems to me. But now I think what's going 211 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: on is that the Trump administration has made an important 212 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: filing at the Supreme Court to try to end this practice. 213 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 7: They just made it yesterday to end. 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: This practice of district judges being able to issue what 215 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: they call universal or nationwide injunctions that have the effect 216 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 3: of stopping the entire government nationwide. So we might get 217 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: an answer faster than maybe a few years, which was 218 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: what happened in Trump's first term with the travel band. 219 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 7: We might get an answer in a few weeks or 220 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 7: a few months. 221 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: And if that practice stops, then I think the Executive 222 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: branch can go forward and these cases will get litigated. 223 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 7: Part of what. 224 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: President Trump is doing, I think, is setting up test 225 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: cases to challenge some of these Watergate era precedents, to 226 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: overturn them, and then also have the Supreme Court on 227 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: his side when he goes to this large task of 228 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: cutting down the administrative state and returning us back to 229 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: the founding constitution. 230 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: I know you get a bounce, but the President's actually 231 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: and they're all in meltdown today. President's actually going to 232 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: leave the White House and go over the Justice Department 233 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: and address the troops over there, the lawyers and the folks, 234 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: and I think some of the FBI. I think Cash 235 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: is going to be there with Attorney General Pambondi. What 236 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: would be your recommendation if you were in the Oval 237 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: this morning? What would you be your recommendation? The one 238 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: or two things you think the President should hit in 239 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: his addressed to the Justice Department, sir, Well. 240 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: First, I think he should chastise them for allowing the 241 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: Justice Department to be used to interfere in the last elections. 242 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: The idea that the Justice Department prosecuted a former president, 243 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: not only a former president, but also the leading opposition 244 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: kendidate for the presidency broke all traditional norms in our country, 245 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: and I think is a serious plemish on the Justice Department, 246 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: and he needs to tell him that was wrong. I'm 247 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: sure he will, But I think the second and more 248 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: important point is to go over some of the things 249 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: we talked about in this remind them that the president, 250 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: not individual Justice Department churneys. The president is in charge 251 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: of enforcing law into the constitution, and they are there 252 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: to assist him, not override him. 253 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: John you, what's your social media? How can our audience 254 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: follow you? Are your website? 255 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: Sir? 256 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: It's one of the blessings in my life. I'm not 257 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: on social media. I don't have Twitter for anything. Sorry. 258 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: We will continue to put your writings up. Honored to 259 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: have you on here, sir. 260 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Thank you, Thanks for having me. 261 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: John You one of the greats. 262 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: See the fight we got, folks, Trump It's not the 263 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: fascist they say is every second of every day President 264 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: Trump's trying to go back to a constitutional order. Donald 265 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: John Trump and his team what it's gott best and say, 266 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: be the easiest thing in the world for President Grump. 267 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Just continue to spend this money, continue to spend the 268 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: let the administrative state grow, let the wars continue. 269 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: That would be the easy path. 270 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: President Trump's taking the hard path because the country's. 271 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: In the balance. You just had one of the smartest 272 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: legal minds. 273 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: In the country right there, John, You walking through the 274 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: entire thing, the sins from the progressive movement of Wilson 275 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: all the way through Watergate. He's trying to reverse the 276 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: entire thing. He's trying to clean up the military every 277 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: different aspect. As the chief executive, commander in chief of 278 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: the Armed Forces, chief magistrate, and chief law enforcement officer 279 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: of the United States of America. Trump is basically trying 280 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: to set things right. 281 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: What a struggle. 282 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: As long as you've got his back, We're going to 283 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: continue to win victory after victory after victory. Short commercial break, 284 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: Jim Rickards on the other side, your Stephen Ricords best 285 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: in saying that the easy path would be just to 286 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: continue to spend and continue this Keynesian stimulus. It'd be 287 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: the easy thing for Trump, right, he won't take it. 288 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: And you saying right there that Trump is doing something 289 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: to restore the constitutional order. 290 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, sir, right. 291 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 6: And just to follow one with John houstaid, which I 292 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 6: agree with the way the most important thing you said 293 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 6: was Houston Philly. 294 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: I am too. 295 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 6: I lived on Spring Garden Street and went to pend Loss, So, oh. 296 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: My god, you know, you know, hold, there's nothing worse 297 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: than There's nothing worse than an Eagles fan. Maybe a 298 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: Phillies fan, but there's nothing worse than an Eagles fan. 299 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: You gots, You've strung a long time, So congratulations, I'm both. 300 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 6: John pointed out me. Obviously there's a major legal battle 301 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 6: going on. When I see these cases, and there are 302 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 6: like thirty of them now, it's not like two or three. 303 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 6: I always look at the background of the judge, the 304 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 6: district court judge. They're all almost all Biden appointees, some Obama, 305 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 6: a couple of Clints, but they're pretty much Biden appointees. 306 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 6: And they're forum shopping in Rhode Island and Massachusetts and 307 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 6: places like that. But John's right about how I think 308 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 6: this is going to end up. He talked about the 309 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 6: nationwide injunctions, which are extremely damaging, and Alito and Clarence 310 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 6: Thomas are all over that. But there's another issue we 311 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 6: kind of touched on, which is our independent agencies even 312 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 6: constitutional in the sense of being independent. I mean, Congress 313 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 6: can create them and fund them, but the president runs them. 314 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 6: For all the reasons you and John just discussed. But 315 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 6: this idea that you know, J Powell is press conference 316 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 6: a couple of months ago said he was asked where 317 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 6: the Trump's going to fire you? And Powell said, he 318 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 6: can't fire me. It's ill legal. Those are his exact words. 319 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 6: And he's a lawyer, by the way, it's not an economists. 320 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 6: We may find out, we may find out that that 321 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 6: kind of so called independence, whether it's a Consumer Finance 322 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 6: Protection Bureau of the Federally Reserve fcc SEC keep going, 323 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: whether they can truly be independent of decisions by the 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 6: White House. That's another thing I'm working on. I'm researching this. 325 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 6: It's an article I'm calling Lawfair two point zero. Lawfair 326 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 6: one point zero. Kind of came to an end with 327 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 6: Trump versus the United States twenty twenty four when the 328 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 6: Supreme Court said the president can't commit a crime, cannot 329 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 6: be liable for a crime in his official duties. And 330 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 6: by the way, speaking of Watergate, go back to nineteen 331 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 6: seventy nine when Richard Nixon was being interviewed by David Frost, 332 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 6: and Frost wanted Nixon to say, yeah, I booked the law, 333 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 6: you know, something like that, and he kind of got 334 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 6: around to it. But when Frost pressed him, Nixon said, 335 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 6: when the president does it, it's not illegal. It's an 336 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 6: exact quote. When the president does it, it's not illegal. 337 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 6: He was ridiculed for that. You're a dictator, they laughed 338 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 6: at him. A senator. 339 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: Nixon was a pretty good lawyer. 340 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 5: He was right. 341 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 6: It took until twenty twenty four for the Supreme Court 342 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 6: to say that, but Nixon was actually right when he 343 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 6: said it in nineteen seventy nine. So there's a lot more, 344 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 6: a lot more to go there. But yeah, I mean, 345 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: getting back to the the economic points we were discussing, 346 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 6: the Vescent had even before before he was confirmed, before 347 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 6: he was in the Secretary of the Treasury, he had 348 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 6: this three to three three plan and he said, what 349 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 6: we need is three percent real deficits below three percent 350 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 6: of GDP, three percent real growth, and then three million 351 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 6: barrels a day of oil. 352 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: That was the three three three plan. 353 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 6: You don't hear much about it anymore, but it makes 354 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 6: perfect sense. 355 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: And here's why. 356 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 6: If deficits are three percent of GDP and deficit is 357 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 6: a nominal thing, meaning it's a number. It's not a 358 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 6: JUSTI for inflation. It's just a number. Real growth is three, 359 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 6: but we have two percent inflation. So what that means 360 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 6: is nominal growth is five. You know three if you 361 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 6: have two percent inflation, three plus two is five. Right, 362 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 6: So if the deficits below three percent of GDP, but 363 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: nominal GDP is growing five three plus two, what does 364 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 6: that mean. It means that the GDP is growing faster 365 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 6: than the debt, and the debt to GDP ratio is 366 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 6: going down. The notion that you've got to pay off 367 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 6: the national debt that hasn't happened since Andrew Jackson eighteen 368 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 6: thirty six. You don't have to pay it off. You 369 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 6: do have to roll it over, and you do have 370 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 6: to be able to afford it in terms of the 371 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 6: interest rate. And then you got to worry about the 372 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 6: dollar also. So the question is what makes it sustainable? Well, 373 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 6: the answer is the world's looking at one hundred and 374 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 6: about one hundred and twenty five percent debt to GDP 375 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 6: ratio right now. 376 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: I'd a little bit higher than that. 377 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 6: It's about one hundred and twenty five percent if it 378 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 6: just starts going down, and that's what the best in 379 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 6: plan we do one twenty one fifteen. 380 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, Hey, I want to make sure 381 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: people understand the math here. Your reason is the denominate 382 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: you're going to you're going. 383 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: To grow at three three and a half percent, and 384 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: so you're going to grow the economy, so therefore your 385 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: GDP will be higher. And the debt because we're never 386 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: going to pay off a penny of the face amount 387 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: of the debt. We're rarely going to struggle to pay 388 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: the interest. You're great, gay folks, understand this. This is 389 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: where and this gets to also the theory. You know, 390 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: Ray Dalio said, hey, we're about seven percent of deficit 391 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: to GDP. We got get down to three. Scott says 392 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: at six and a half. We got to get to 393 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: three and a half because you got to get these 394 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: deficits under a tree and dollars. So because that keeps 395 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: building the face amount of the debt to thirty seven 396 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: and thirty eight and thirty nine and forty and right now, Jim, 397 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: you would agree there's nothing. And this is why I 398 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: think Howard Line has got to stop talking loosely and 399 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: elon about the tree and dollars are going to find 400 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: from waste front abuse. 401 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen. 402 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: Hey, if you get a couple hundred bion dollars, trust me, 403 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: that is like water to somebody in the desert. 404 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 8: Right now. 405 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: We need that because you're going to have to have 406 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: the programmatic cuts, and that's what's you know, we agree 407 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: to the cr It looks like the Democrat's going to fold. 408 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: So we'll get to this this summer. 409 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: But if that doesn't happen, the one twenty five, let 410 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: people know. One twenty five is I think Rarebanie wrote 411 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: that book. This time is completely different. No country's ever 412 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: come back, am I correct? Jim records at that percentage 413 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: of total face amount of debt to GDP at one 414 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: twenty five, you're essentially on the glidslope indicator to your 415 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: financial destruction. 416 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: Sir. 417 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: Correct. 418 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 6: We're at the same lunch table as Lebanon, Greece and 419 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 6: a couple other countries. That's that's that's where we are. 420 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 6: But there's by the way, I've had a lot of 421 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 6: head on head debates with Rabini. Here's here's what he 422 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 6: may be missing there. He's generally right that it never 423 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 6: ends well, But the question is how does it end. 424 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 6: The usual way is to fall, But the reason for 425 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 6: that is countries have a local currency, but they borrow 426 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 6: in dollars. If you're if your debt is in a 427 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 6: currency that you don't print, you can't pay it off. 428 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: That's Argentina. You can set your watch by it. 429 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: Every ten years they default there. The other one is hyperinflation, 430 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 6: which is, yeah, I owe you know, one hundred, you know, 431 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: thirty six trillion or whatever. But here's good luck buying 432 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 6: a low for bread. It's not worth anything. So that's 433 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 6: why Imar and nationals, China and a few other cases. 434 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 6: What's different about the United States is we our debt 435 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 6: is in a currency we can print. 436 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: We can actually print those dollars. 437 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 6: So as I disagree with Dalio and know this, there's 438 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 6: no reason for the US ever to default because we 439 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 6: can actually print the money. The question is what are 440 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 6: the consequences of that? And obviously they're all bad. But 441 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 6: but Bestin has pointed the way out. And you said 442 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 6: three percent growth, you're right, but that's that's three percent 443 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 6: real growth. But you have to tackle on two points 444 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: of inflation or maybe three. So you're going to get 445 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 6: five or six percent nominal growth. Real growth matters. That's 446 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 6: how we get jobs. 447 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: And that's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. 448 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. That's what I keep telling them. 449 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: I said, Hey, this is why you're going to have 450 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: to You have to have some tax increases. Do you 451 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: honestly think as you see it right now? Because if 452 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: you take the federal spending out, we've been a negative growth. 453 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? 454 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: If you take out the massive federal spending the last 455 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: couple of years, it's kynesy and shock. Haven't we been 456 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: kind of negative real growth the last couple of years? 457 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: It ain't growing. Dude. 458 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: If you and I saw this business model, you charge them. 459 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: You would charge them so much that could you would 460 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: charge them so much to finances because. 461 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: It's not financiable right now unless. 462 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: You've got a printing that just keeps printing and the 463 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: rest of the world is going to suck on You know, 464 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: if the perching power of the dollar goes down twenty 465 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: percent like under Biden, hey goes out twenty percent, you 466 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: guys got to suck on it. That's the whole bricks 467 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: nation saying, well, Yo, maybe we don't have to suck. 468 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: We don't have a solution now, and maybe we don't 469 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: have a solution in five years, but we're going to come 470 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: up with a solution because we're just not going to 471 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 2: take you guys essentially screwing us every day. I mean, 472 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: isn't that the isn't that the theory of the case here? 473 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: Well, exactly right. 474 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 6: See that's the model, but you have to be like 475 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 6: Captain Kirk, change the model. In other words, the key, 476 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 6: the key statistic is debt to GDP. You throw it 477 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 6: at thirty six trillion, one hundred and twenty five percent. Well, 478 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 6: big numbers are scary numbers, they don't matter. What matters 479 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: is debt to GDP because debt is what you owe. 480 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: GDP is how you pay it back or how you 481 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 6: roll it over. So that's the key metric. Now there's 482 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 6: a there's a critic what physicists called critical threshold ninety 483 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: percent debt to GDP. That's where the keys and multiplier 484 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 6: goes negative solow below ninety percent. You borrow a dollar, 485 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 6: you spend a dollar, you get a dollar twenty five 486 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 6: of GDP, or you get a dollar ten or whatever. 487 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: But it keeps going down. Ninety percent is where you 488 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 6: borrow a dollar, you spend a dollar, and you get 489 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 6: ninety cents. You don't even get your dollar back. In 490 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 6: terms of GDP. We're well past that. The only reason 491 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 6: the economy was juggling along at all under Biden was 492 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 6: because the deficits were so large. You get some growth 493 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 6: out of it, but you don't get as much as 494 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 6: you're borrowing, and therefore the debt to GDP ratio goes up. 495 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 6: So that's the thing you have to wrestle to the ground. 496 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 6: You got to get the debt to GDP ratio to 497 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 6: go down. Now, the debt's not going down at all, 498 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 6: but GDP. Simple question. See can GDP grow faster than 499 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 6: the debt? That's the only issue. And if it does, 500 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 6: that ratio is going down and you're getting healthier. That's 501 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 6: what Bestin's trying to get a chance. 502 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: So you get it. You're getting the patient. The patient's 503 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: getting healthy. That's why I keep saying this is a 504 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: supply side cut. This is our last shot. 505 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: To do it. It's that part of the formula right there. 506 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: Hey Jim, where do people say rickords war room dot com? 507 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: You got Strategic Intelligence. Give me, give me thirty seconds 508 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: on why people love coming out, Why strategic Intelligence? 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Brother? 528 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 6: At Real Jim Records on Twitter. That's that's my main 529 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 6: channel at Real Jim Records. 530 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: Jim love having you on here. Audience does too. You're 531 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: a very wise man, sir. 532 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 533 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Had some heavyweights on today, John, You and Jim Records 534 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: back to back. Come on, man, two very special guests 535 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: are about to join us after a break. They're coming 536 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: after them in a quite violent way. 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At three, we're going to 561 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: be background with. 562 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: John Lackner with the new book that you guys love 563 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: so much about so much of the Death is Our Business, 564 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: about the Russian mercenaries. He's going to be on day 565 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: talk about putin. Natalie's going to be from the White House, 566 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: and Dad's going to be here to talk about a 567 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: Kondometric model he's put together. Twenty twenty five. We're going 568 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: to be slammed from five to seven, much much more. 569 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: Schumer just went to the floor of the Senate and 570 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: gave more rationale because he's getting lit right now on 571 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: his decision to surrender but cash but tell most importantly, Oh, 572 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: by the way, Tulsi's just announced put up press release. 573 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: She's going to formal inquiry in the potential prosecution. 574 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: On that there. It is right there on that. 575 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: Remember the perverted we had Colonel John Mills, which will 576 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: try to get Mills on today. That perverted chat room 577 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: they had over at the Intelligence Committee, over at the 578 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: d and I, including people from NSACIA, others, the pervert channel, investigation, 579 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: potential prosecutions, so much more. Today another day of full action. 580 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: Days of thunder are with us. Cash Betel, one of 581 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: our former co hosts here now director of the FBI, 582 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: put out, I think of everything Cash is put as 583 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: FBI directed, this is the most serious. You put a 584 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: lot of smart, tough stuff out. I want to address 585 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: the alarming rise in swatting incidents targeting media figures. The 586 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: FBI is aware this dangerous trend, and my team and 587 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: I are already taking action to investigate and hold those 588 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: responsible accountable. This isn't about politics. Weaponizing law enforcements against 589 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: any American is not only morally rehensible, but also in 590 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: dangerous lives, including those of our officers, that will not 591 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: be tolerated. We are fully committed to working with local 592 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: law enforcement to crack down on these crimes. 593 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: More updates to come. 594 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: I want to bring on now one of the toughest 595 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: ombres in our MAGA movement and one of the best 596 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: voice out there, Joe PAGs. Joe, you have been swatted. 597 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: Talk to me about what went on. This is incredibly dangerous. 598 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: Cashes on this. I know if we're talking to people 599 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, they are all over this because this 600 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: puts two people in two groups in jeopardy. Number one, 601 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: you and your family, who they basically want cops to assassinate, 602 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: and also the cops. 603 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: So walk as through what happened to you, Joe PAGs about. 604 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 9: Two thirty in the morning, two nights ago, Steve and 605 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 9: made great job what you do here in the war room. 606 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 9: I love being on today. I'm sitting in my office. 607 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 9: I don't go to bed until five or five thirty, 608 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 9: which is lucky because this happened about two thirty, two 609 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 9: thirty five, and I've got one of those cameras out 610 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 9: of the front door that'll give you an indication of 611 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 9: somebody's there. And I thought there was a bug in 612 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 9: the camera. That'll happen every once in a while. Maybe 613 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 9: the dog's had to go out. My wife woke up 614 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 9: in the middle of the night whatever, and that wasn't it. 615 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 9: I went to the camera and it shows you the 616 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 9: video that just happened. And here's a dude with a 617 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 9: cap on. I can't tell if it's a copper now 618 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 9: because it's now it's night vision. It's very darkout. During 619 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 9: the day it's a color camera, but at night it's 620 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 9: night vision. And there's a guy with a long gun. 621 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 9: He's got a rifle AR fifteen type something like that. 622 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 9: I've got one. It looks like an AAR fifteen. And 623 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 9: I'm like, there's a dude at my front door with 624 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 9: an AAR fifteen. He's got a cap on. He looks 625 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 9: nervous as hell. Stevie's he's he's looking around, you know 626 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 9: what's going on? So I had to think to myself 627 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 9: at about a second, what do I do? Do I 628 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 9: grab my ar go out? Then I'd be dead in 629 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 9: my doorway? Do I grab my pistol? Can seal it? 630 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 9: Walk out? Yell? Who are you? 631 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: Do? 632 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 9: I call nine one one, which I ended up doing. 633 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 9: I called nine one one, got the county sheriff. I said, 634 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 9: I need to know there's my address. This is who 635 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 9: I am? Is there somebody at my house right now. 636 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 9: She said, yes, sir, there is. 637 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: There's this. 638 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 9: We got a call. Two dogs were shot dead. Family 639 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 9: is hiding in the basement. I said, we're in Taxaban 640 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 9: on basements here, So listen, here's who I am. You 641 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 9: probably know who I Yes, yes, sir, we do a 642 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 9: public figure. This is probably a swatting. Tell the guy 643 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 9: to put the gun down, not down, like take it 644 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 9: off and just point the muscle down. I'll come out 645 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 9: with my hands up. Let's clear this up right now. 646 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 9: There is no die dress, no peril in my house. 647 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 9: This is some bad guy hoping that I'll be killed 648 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 9: by you guys. This is this is, as you said, Steve, 649 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 9: assassination by cop if they can do it. And it 650 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 9: was scaredless and I've got adrenaline in what we do 651 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 9: every day, but I've never had an adrenaline like this that 652 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 9: I felt that night. And thank God these are good 653 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 9: guys and gals that the police in this area are 654 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 9: amazing and where I live in Texas and we were 655 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 9: able to diffuse it pretty quickly. But Steve, I walked 656 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 9: out and when I walked out of my studio, well 657 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 9: my production studio, there was in my backyard. I can 658 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 9: see a bunch of flashlights. It ended up seven county 659 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 9: sheriffs or sheriff's deputies round my house, surrounding the house. 660 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 9: Had I done something differently, we probably wouldn't be talking today. 661 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: Now this is the point. And I talked to MTG. 662 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: We've been swatted a bunch of times in DC in 663 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 2: our headquarters. I talked to MTG. She had, you know, 664 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: she had the long gun right. 665 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: By our bed. 666 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: She picked it up a first to walk to the door. 667 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: If she had gone to the door, she would have 668 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: been dead. If you had gone outside, you know, and 669 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: they've seen your weapon at all, you were a dead man. 670 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: That's what they want. This is not fooling around. 671 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: They want the police to shoot you and to assassinate you, sir. 672 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 9: Clear well, without any doubt what you just said is true. 673 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 9: This wasn't just scared me. This wasn't to to say, hey, 674 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 9: stop talking about about Zelenski the way that you do. Hey, 675 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 9: you know, stop taking the right side or supporting you know, Trump. 676 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 9: This was we want the guy dead. We'd like to 677 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 9: kill him. And here it's twofold for them, the bad guys. 678 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 9: Do you think about it if I'm dead in my doorway. 679 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 9: They get my voice off the air, they get my 680 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 9: face off the TV, and the bad guys the cop 681 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 9: who killed me. So I mean this is twofold for them. 682 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 9: They can look at see we should get rid of 683 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 9: the police, reform the entire play. 684 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: They can't believe they. 685 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 9: Killed the citizen guy at his house and look quietly 686 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 9: got his voice out of here. This was This is 687 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 9: not This is not child's play. This is some kid 688 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 9: calling it a bomb scare at high school trying to 689 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 9: get a day off of school. This is somebody wanting 690 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 9: to take out media people that they don't agree with. 691 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: This. 692 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: This is I mean, this is well, we got swatted 693 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago and there was kind of random. 694 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: This is a well thought through they're trying to go 695 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: after that. 696 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: They're going after the toughest owmbrace the guys who are 697 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: underlenting and what they hope because you can see the 698 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: type to going after that. You take a couple of 699 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: guys out before you're assassinated, right, and then they have 700 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: a huge bruhaha that law enforcement and then your voice 701 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: is off, A couple of police officers are killed and 702 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: you're assassinated. It's it's a it's a win win win 703 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 2: for this And this is why until Cash got there, 704 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: because I know we've had to deal with this system before. 705 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: It's never been seriously investigated or prosecuted. And that's why 706 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: I'm hoping now with Cash. What would be your recommendation, 707 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: One to your other media figures out there, number two, 708 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: to to the police officers in these different regions, and 709 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 2: then to Cash, matel what would be your guidance? 710 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 9: Well, I hit Cash immediately. He's a friend just like 711 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 9: he is of yours and and I'm glad he puts 712 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 9: something out today. So Cash, this just happened. Please, And 713 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 9: he just wrote me back one word, he said copy 714 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 9: like I got it. And then today he put out 715 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 9: he put up that notification. The advice I would give 716 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 9: is I live in a pretty big area of Texas. 717 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 9: I live in the San Antonio area just north of 718 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 9: and the county sheriff was up on what swatting was, 719 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 9: but the people under him weren't. Necessarily, I've now educated 720 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 9: all the dispatchers. Give it to my cell phone number. 721 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 9: This is who I am. If you got a call 722 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 9: to my house, you call me first. Let's diffuse this 723 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 9: right away. If you're in the media and you see 724 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 9: something like this go down, Hey, if you don't have 725 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 9: a camera outside your house, get one and get several, 726 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 9: because Steve, they would have broken in the door had 727 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 9: I not had the camera and had not call them immediately, 728 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 9: I would have had people coming in from the backside 729 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 9: and from the front side, and you're right, there would 730 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 9: have been a shootout and it would have unfolded like 731 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 9: you said. So my advice is to get with your 732 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 9: local police. Whether it's a a police department, talk to 733 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 9: the chief, talk to the captain, talk to somebody. If 734 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 9: it's a sheriff's department, get the actual sheriff if you can. 735 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 9: If not, it's somebody who's in charge, somebody who can 736 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 9: make decisions, and make sure they understand this is going on. 737 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 9: I'm one of what is it now, nine ten, twelve, fifteen. 738 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 9: I know I was one of the first two or 739 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 9: three that they did this too. But this is, without 740 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 9: a doubt, like you said, a coordinated effort to take 741 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 9: people out, me out, and we have to be working 742 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 9: in conjunction with law enforcement. Make them aware because the 743 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 9: dispatchers weren't aware. When I said I think I'm being squatted. 744 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 9: She said, I don't know what you mean, so I 745 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 9: had to explain what it was. And I think that 746 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 9: they're now abreast of it. There's a mechanism in place 747 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 9: that they try it with me again, but that would 748 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 9: be the advice. They want us to turn against each other. 749 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 9: And then one voice is like yours and mind shut down. 750 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 9: It's not going to work. 751 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: And they also hope you kind of moderate now. It 752 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: ain't going to happen. You got Pegs. It's a tough 753 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: on break Pegs. Where do people get your show? Where 754 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: they go to get you? On social media? 755 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 9: Brother joepags dot com. It's either Joe Talk Show on 756 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 9: all the social media and I'm verified, or it's Joe 757 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 9: Pegs j Oe p a Gs and we're live six 758 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 9: to nine pm Monday through Fridays. 759 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: Dave, one of the original gangsters a O G. Joe Peggs, 760 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: thank you for joining us and go with god Man 761 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: tough guy right there. Another one of the most prominent voices, 762 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: Sean Farish. Sean's joining us by phone. I'll play late 763 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: the clip. Keena's wife put up Sean. They have the club. 764 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 2: Let's play the club. 765 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 10: Hey guys, It's Sean my wife Brennan, and just wanted 766 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 10: to give you guys an update. We did just get 767 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 10: swatted uh here in Tennessee. 768 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 5: Uh. 769 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 7: The officers said they received a phone. 770 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 10: Call that that somebody murdered somebody in the house and 771 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 10: was planning a suicide back cop. So I received the 772 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 10: call with that information. We cooperated with police. They were 773 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 10: very nice. 774 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 7: They were actually very nice, very very nice. 775 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 10: They were not aware that this was going on across 776 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 10: the country. Was that, you know, how did you feel 777 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 10: about that? Was what was going through your head? When 778 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 10: he saw officers in the backyard with the guns. 779 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 4: I was shaking. 780 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 7: I was terrified. 781 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 5: I was the only one awake. 782 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 8: He was asleep, and they were just pointing their guns 783 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 8: into the house and I I was very scared, scared. 784 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 4: And that's the point. 785 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 7: And that's what these people are trying to do. 786 00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 787 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 10: They are trying to silence folks who are not afraid 788 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 10: to speak to their mind online. And you've seen it 789 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 10: happen to so many other people across the country. We're 790 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 10: going to do it weekend from Tennessee to try and 791 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 10: get to the bottom of who's responsible for it. 792 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 2: I'd like to see the just Cash Betel, that's Sean, 793 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: and then we'll play. I'll put that up online. Sean 794 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 2: is Sean Ferish joins is now by phone. Sean Cash 795 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: Btel just put out a tweet from the FBI say 796 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: he's all over this. Many people have talked from behind 797 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 2: the scenes. He says, he's got a team on this. 798 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: They're talking to law enforcement. They're going to get to 799 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 2: the bottom of investigating this. We got you by phone. 800 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 2: I'll hold you to the break. So tell us what happened, 801 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: What exactly happened to you and your wife? 802 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 11: Well, Steve, first, thanks you, thank you so much for 803 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 11: allowing me to tell a story here and raise awareness 804 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 11: about this, because it could have been a lot worse, 805 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 11: and you know, it could have been as bad as 806 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 11: we've seen with some of the J sixers who were 807 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 11: ripped from their homes. 808 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: Thankfully, that's not what happened. I'd fallen asleep. 809 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 11: I was on the couch. We had a long day yesterday. 810 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 11: My wife woke me up untild me that there were 811 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 11: cops in our yard with guns. I knew that this 812 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 11: was going on to other prominent voices in the movement. 813 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 11: I saw it all over the internet, so I sat 814 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 11: straight up and I said to her, Okay, we're being swatted. 815 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 11: And she didn't know what that meant, you know, or 816 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 11: she thought, worst case scenario, we were going to have 817 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 11: our house raided. But you know, we said, let's sit 818 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 11: down and let's wait for instruction. So the cops positioned 819 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 11: themselves outside h and then I got. 820 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 4: A phone call from. 821 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 11: The deputies outside the home and they told me what 822 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 11: they received, you know, the call that they received that 823 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 11: two people were shot in the house and that that 824 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 11: I was planning on committing suicide by cop and if 825 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 11: they came into the home. 826 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 4: I said, that's not true. 827 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 11: It's myself, my wife. We had three cats. We rescued 828 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 11: and we walked out. We complied with their orders. 829 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 4: Everything was was very calm. Uh. 830 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 11: The officers that were here handled it very nicely. 831 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 4: They were professional, they were kind. 832 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 11: But they did not know that this was a national 833 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 11: trend that was a merging, and I made them aware 834 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 11: of that. Just before we came on here, they called 835 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 11: and wanted some additional information. 836 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 4: I'm going to be reaching back out to them shortly. 837 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 11: But about five minutes before we connected here, another mysterious Domino's. 838 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 4: Order pizza orders showed up at the house that. 839 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 11: I didn't order, So whoever is doing it also apparently 840 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 11: ordering food, they got the order wrong, so you know 841 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 11: I sent it back. 842 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 4: But no, whoever's at it is still at it, and 843 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 4: we want them to be brought to justice and we want. 844 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 2: Just they say, Sean, hangovers, We're We're going to take 845 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: a short commercial break, and Sean, I will tell you 846 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: those pizza. 847 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: Orders are dangerous. 848 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 2: You don't know what they're going to show up with, 849 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: or who's going to show up, or how they're scouting 850 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: your house. So short commercial break. Sean Ferris, another one 851 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 2: of the prominent voices in. 852 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: The movement under attack, to be back in a moment. 853 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 5: Use your who Stephen came back? 854 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 2: Sean, is there any doubt in your mind that whoever 855 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 2: did this and and Cash is committed to get to 856 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 2: the bottom of it, wanted to essentially have you earned 857 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: your wife assassinated by cop? 858 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 11: Sir, there's uh, that's that's something that we've been thinking 859 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 11: about that they were hoping somebody made a mistake and 860 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 11: that was the that was the outcome. Yeah, I would 861 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 11: say that's definitely been something we've been talking about her 862 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 11: and I together. 863 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're a comedian, or at least you're 864 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: you're you're impersonation of the president is bar none the best. 865 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 2: But you also aim that have so much powerful has 866 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 2: so much powerful social commentary in it. 867 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: Is it shock you that the radicals. 868 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: In the left want to basically have assassinated a husband 869 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: and wife of a guy that is a comedian, But 870 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 2: does it with social commentary? 871 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: Does that strike you as odd? 872 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 11: That strikes me is part for the course with this group, unfortunately. 873 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 11: I mean we've had a long history with them. When 874 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 11: I lived in New York, I actually joined your show 875 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 11: years ago from the Best Day's usps. We held the 876 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 11: protests for Jesse Morgan and we took plenty of heat 877 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 11: back then when we were activists in New York, as 878 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 11: before I. 879 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: Met my wife. 880 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 11: But we, uh, we wound up, you know, rolling with 881 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 11: the punchers then, and we're going to roll them now. 882 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 11: I mean, if they think that that they reach somebody 883 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 11: who's going to be they think that they reach somebody 884 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 11: who's going to stay silent, they came to the wrong house. 885 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 4: Is the period, is the end of the story there. 886 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 4: So they're not going to win. We will. They're not 887 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 4: going to win. 888 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 11: Their tactics are cheap, uh, and intimidation is not going to. 889 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 4: Work on us. I'm a New Yorker. We don't we 890 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 4: don't back down. 891 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: So you're not gonna You're not going to back down. 892 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: You're not going to ease up. You're not going to 893 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: take your foot off the gas because you're you come on, 894 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 2: you come on, You're you come on kind of strong. 895 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're not going to back off on this. 896 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 4: Oh there's not a chance. No. 897 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 11: You know, like I said, I grew up in New York. 898 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 11: My mom's from Brooklyn, She's Italian. We have it in 899 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 11: our blood to just be Someone tells me not to 900 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 11: do something, and I'm going to do it twice as loud. 901 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 11: So now I live in Tennessee, and again, the whole 902 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 11: idea is that someone tells me not to do something, 903 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 11: I'm going to do it twice as loud and they're 904 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 11: going to regret it. 905 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: We know they're still coming after you with these domino 906 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 2: There'll be other stuff like that. So you realize that 907 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: you're not off the hook yet. 908 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I mean, if they're can I keep doing that? 909 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 9: You know? 910 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 11: My wife said, there's a car in the driveway. 911 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 4: I said, Is it a cop car? She said, no, 912 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 4: it's a white car. 913 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 11: And see the guy come out, the Domino's guy. So 914 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 11: you know, I'm expecting it to continue for a while. 915 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 11: We how to handle it. We'll have a good relationship 916 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 11: with the sheriffs. That's our silver lining. 917 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 2: Sean, what is your social media? How can people find 918 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: out more about you? The few that don't know, and 919 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: where do they go to find out get more of 920 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 2: your content? 921 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 11: So we stream through fridays on Rumble. It's Rumble dot com, slash, 922 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 11: LFA TV. My social media, my ex is at sah 923 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 11: a WN Underscore fa r A s H. We post 924 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 11: links there. We have a lot of fun there and 925 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 11: we appreciate everybody's support, everybody who checked in and Steve, 926 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 11: thank you so much for allowing me the time to 927 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 11: tell the story. 928 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 2: No, it's when I saw when I saw the video. 929 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: We'll play that this afternoon of this afternoon show. It's 930 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: and your wife is great, A two tough one brace 931 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 2: and that's what we need. What they're trying to do 932 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 2: is intimidate this movement. They know we're winning right now. 933 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: They're trying to take out the media part of this. 934 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 2: The folks at the tip of the spear. And what 935 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm telling them, they can't intimidate. These folks can' intimidate 936 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: guys like you and Joe pecks Sean honored to have 937 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: you on here, fight on. 938 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 4: Sir, Thank you so much, you too, thank you. 939 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: That's a very pilon to his social media. 940 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: Let's get a show, let's do it all, so show 941 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: some support on this. This is very I can tell you. 942 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: In the we had a couple of swatings back to 943 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 2: back in DC a couple of years ago, and they 944 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: were very, very, very dangerous. They want assassination by cop. 945 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 2: They also want you to take out a couple of cops. 946 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: So it's dangerous for the law enforcement, that's what Cash 947 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: is saying. And it's dangerous for obviously dangers for the individual. 948 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: And you can see they're going after kind of the 949 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 2: tip of the spear. They're going to come after you too. 950 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 2: They are not going to give up control of this country. 951 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: You see this right now, You see with President Trump, 952 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: look at John, you and Mike Davis is sitting right 953 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: there telling you go back to the constitutional order. People 954 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: have talked about this for decades. You've heard about this. 955 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 2: We've got to go back to the Constitution. We have 956 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: to get rid of the Department of Education. We have 957 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 2: to get the Justice Department to actually report to the 958 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 2: Office of the President. You've heard this talk and talk 959 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,959 Speaker 2: and talk. Trump is action, action, action, action, this day 960 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: a sense of urgency. What did the great John You 961 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: say that Hamilton one of the greatest of the founders 962 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 2: the Revolutionary generation and uh and and founders just didn't 963 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 2: fight the war but actually create both destroyed the British 964 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 2: Empire's hold on us and then was there to create 965 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: something new. That the that the executive should move with 966 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 2: dispatch and energy is that Trump on dispatching energy. And 967 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: look how they're trying to they Look how they're trying 968 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 2: to stop him every way. And the people that promulgate 969 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 2: that because it's information warfare, you know that we know that, 970 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 2: and what they try to do, they're trying to take 971 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 2: out that that that group of kind of a field 972 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: officers in the information war. And look what happened. I'm 973 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: still not I still can't make head. I can't I 974 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 2: can't make out this. Alex Jones, his producer, there's something 975 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 2: just odd there. And of course alexand with with General Flynn, 976 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: and it said Hey, they got information, and Mike Flynn's 977 00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 2: as dialed in as you can get. 978 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: And Alex ain't too shabby that there's hits. 979 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 2: Out on, like there's a hit at on Alex right, 980 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 2: And what did Joe Peg say right there? He says, Hey, 981 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm on Zelenski every day and Alex Jones, I'm just 982 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 2: repeating what Alex was saying. He's saying, Hey, because of 983 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 2: my Ukraine situation, You're not. You've got to be all 984 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: in on this. You have to be able to go. 985 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: You have to be willing to go to prison, you 986 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: have to be willing to be assassinated. You have to 987 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 2: be willing to give it all. Are you're going to 988 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 2: lose your country? This was President Trump? Could he have 989 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: been more all in? And he's all in? Today we 990 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 2: needed the ramparts Home title lock dot Com Steve twenty 991 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: five one million dollar triple lock protection twenty four to seven. 992 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: They're watching your title of twenty four seven. They're alert 993 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 2: you in the middle of the night if anything happens 994 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 2: and you get one million dollar restoration backup home title 995 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: lock dot Com coach Steve twenty. 996 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: Five, go today. 997 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 2: We need you on the ramparts Wisconsin's here and upon 998 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 2: us and so much else, because, man, I'm telling you, 999 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: they think they got a little momentum here today in 1000 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: the Senate's going to break them and they're only going 1001 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 2: to get more vicious, because they're vicious people. 1002 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: They're nasty people. They're not good people. 1003 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 2: Some of the people over there the vote for him are, 1004 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: but they are quite misled. 1005 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: The right stuff takes us out. 1006 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 2: Two hours of populist nationalism with Charlie Kirk, follows Posso Gruber, 1007 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: the Great Eric Bolling, and then back to the war room. 1008 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: We'll see you back here five pm Eastern Standard time, 1009 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 2: and we will be on fire see them