WEBVTT - The Midterm Map Takes Shape 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:02.440 All right, new This round up and Information Overload Hour 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:04.439 are toll free telephone numbers eight hundred. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.120 And nine to four one sean if you want to 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:07.240 be a part of the program. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.360 There are a lot of Democrats now the list gets 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.560 longer every day that are speaking out against the radicalism 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.480 that has now taken over their party. With the exception 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:21.200 of elected Democrats, which I keep making that distinction, they 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.600 don't want to make the distinction. You know, Eliminate the 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:29.200 Senate who choose as a president, not you, the judiciary, 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:36.640 packed the courts, amnesty for illegals, abolished borders and deportations, 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.800 Abolish ice, defund the Department of War, eliminate cash bell, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:47.160 abolished prisons, police, you know, wealth tax, confiscation, cradle to grave, 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.760 womb to tomb, you know, communism, two each according to 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.520 their need, from each, according to their ability own corporations 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.320 that public ownership of them all. You know, we saw 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.480 this on display again this weekend and you have this 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.920 crazy you know, elected official in New York, Emily Gallagher 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.160 is are named declaring that shoplifters have a right to 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.240 steal you know, items like soap and toothpaste from drug 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:17.920 stores without getting arrested, and she suggested shoplifting should be legalized. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.360 A lot of good that's going to work out for 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.959 the people that actually paid for it and opened a store, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.399 and those stores will no longer remain open. And it 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.080 just gets worse and worse. DSA offering a tribute to 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.880 Fidel Castro on his one hundredth birthday. A majority of 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:39.720 Democrats now favor you know this, this DSA socialism over capitalism. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:45.560 Sixty percent of Democratic Party members support socialism compared to 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.440 only eighteen percent to view it negatively. It's never worked ever, 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.080 rasp me. Some poll finds that most voters reject the 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.320 policies back by the DSA. I think this is going 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.640 to be front and center in this coming election cycle. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:01.480 You know. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.400 I know Bernie Sanders and AOC plan to team up 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.680 with Al Sharpton for their march on Washington. And I 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.680 mean there's just example after example after example, and you know, 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.040 why is it? Bill Maher, why is it? Joe Manchin, 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.119 why is it you know Van Jones and Rama Manuel 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.920 and Jared you know, all these other people that are 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.880 saying this is crazy. And Steven A. Smith, who was 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.679 on you know earlier. You know what are they doing here? 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.600 The rise of anti Semitism in this party is very, 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.519 very real. But if you have a more positive view 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.320 of socialism, you don't understand the founding of this country 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.279 by any way shape manner of form. Let me give examples. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:46.680 You have this DSA co chair referring to communists as 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:51.160 highly obscure historical strains. I don't know what she's saying here, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.440 but let me play it for you. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.040 Number one, is it insulting to you guys when they 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.120 call you a communist? 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:56.240 Like? 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.080 Do you both or obviously I know you both also 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.000 have independent voices? 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.480 Do you consider you some communists? 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:01.960 Number one? 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.000 And then number two? 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.600 I think once again when they ask you, what is 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.960 the difference between communism and DSA, Like, what is that difference? 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.560 Just so our listeners understand, Yeah, we have a big 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.440 tent within DSA. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.280 We have people from all sorts of strains of thought 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.400 on the left, really like everything from kind of social 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:29.000 democrats to you know, highly obscure historical strains that I 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:33.280 sometimes struggle to understand. But that's okay, right, and that's 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.320 part of the beauty of this big ten organization. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.480 What we're working on together is. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.960 Figuring out how to consolidate and come together under this 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.160 banner of democratic socialism. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:44.800 And that's Megan Romer. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.520 And again then she says, Cubans have access to their 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.200 democracy in a way that we don't, in response to 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.360 if she thinks Cuba is a dictatorship, the people of Cuba. 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:01.960 Talk to anybody in South Florida, in Miami, the Cuban 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:06.080 American community, some of the greatest people that we have 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.720 in our country, and I've been down there many times, 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.080 have such admiration. They know what hell is like because 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.480 they've all gotten these broken down, dilapidated rickety boats and 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.040 shark infested waters, risking their lives to get the hell 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.719 out of there because life was unsustainable and the poverty 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.200 there now is worse than it's ever been. But no, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.120 Cubans have access to democracy, she says, I mean, this 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:32.280 is craziness. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.480 Do you believe that Qba Sunday tator ship, Megan. 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.000 I believe that Cubans have access to their democracy in 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.440 a way that we do not. For example, I think 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:47.159 the Family's Code was just sort of an incredible demonstration 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.240 of popular democracy. And also, no, they don't have multi 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.480 party elections, which is a real problem. I also think 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.039 we don't have access to our constitution in ways that 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.960 are really problematic. We're on like fifty years of the 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.400 ER not being passed. Fifty years, it's been since the seventies. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.800 Now you have this other guy, a Chik Sadik, the 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.440 DSA co chair, pressed by Jorge Ramos. And if Cuba, Venezuela, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:14.400 and Nicaragua are dictatorships, I mean these people don't want 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.560 to say the obvious. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:17.480 Of course they are. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.680 Listen, what's your relationship with these countries. Do you believe 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.960 that Cuba, Venezuela and Nikaawa that they are dictatorships? For us? 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.920 Expanding democracy the democrats small de democratic part of democratic 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.839 socialism is core to what we stand for and what 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.200 are our vision for the world. We want to expand 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.560 democracy in the electoral system. We want to expand democracy 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.560 in our workplaces through labor unions and in our communities. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.320 So that's the core part of what we're doing. 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.200 Is Cuba dictatorship for you. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.599 I think in the United States it's hard for us 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:51.839 to judge of other countries being dictatorships when we have 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.080 Donald Trump as president, when basic vooting rights arounder attack 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.039 in the US validated by the Supreme Court just a 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.440 few months ago. I think we have a lot of 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.279 work to do in the United States to make sure 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.360 we have a democracy. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:05.560 But let me go back to Cuba. Do you think 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:06.719 you waste a dictatorship? 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.480 There are things that the Cuban people themselves would would 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.839 want to change in their own system, but it's hard 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.440 to do that when the blockade is such a severe 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.039 it's strangling their economy. And this is the us'll see 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.080 to make the economy screen. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.159 All right, Joining us now is old friend of the program, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.640 friend for a long time, Doug shown he's been a 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.960 prominent Clinton Democrat back in the day, lawyer, political analyst. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.200 And okay, so this is the new world of the 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:41.880 Democratic Party. Only one Democrat is speaking out publicly elected Democrat. Now, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.799 other Democrats like yourself and Mark Penn and the people 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.440 that I mentioned, they're critical. Where where's Chuck Schumer? Where's 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.000 Hichem Jeffries? Where are the Are there any normal Democrats? 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.760 Laughter? Or is there silence? 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:54.599 You know? 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:55.240 Agreement? 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.640 He said, I do, well, Laid. You don't have to 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:05.719 like me, you just have to win. And basically, I 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:10.480 believe and others believe that the DSA are not Democrats. 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:15.880 They're using the Democratic Party to advance a collectivist and 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:22.160 socialist agenda. The Democrats are trying to pretend that they're 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.000 all sort of strains of left, which I reject for 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.960 the reasons showing you so eloquently said at the outset 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.120 of this segment, I. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.120 Mean, can you possibly vote for a guy like El Sayed? 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.080 And I have played the clips of El Sayed and 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.040 his bff, Hassam Piker over and over and over again. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.680 The streets will run red with the blood of capitalists 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.160 and landlords, his best friend said. And on top of 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.480 the things that he said, I mean, I can go 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.360 through all of it with you, and I'm just sitting here, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.600 you know, bewildered by the fact he is now your 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.480 Senate candidate in Michigan. I think I know the answer 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.320 to this question. I don't think you could ever vote 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:05.800 for that guy. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.560 I know I vote. If I voted in Michigan, I 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:14.320 vote for Mike Rodgers. It's a pretty easy vote to cast, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:19.520 even though I want democratic control, but not democratic socialist 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:25.840 influencer or certainly controlled of my party or my Senate 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.960 or House caucus. I think this is abhorrent and something 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.480 we have to fight back against. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.560 Now, what do you do in a case like Maine. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:40.000 I mean, your Democratic Party defended every single allegation against 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.440 Platner until it finally got down to rape and a 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.319 woman specifically saying that in this case, now, an eyewitness 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:52.079 as he saw Troy Jackson, Platner's replacement, slap his girlfriend 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.839 on top of the allegations that he threw that he 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.840 has a vicious temper through a water bottle at a 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.160 colleague while while serving in the main legislature. 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.600 I mean, could you vote for that guy? 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:09.360 No? I could not vote for him. I wanted nanaiv Shah, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:16.720 who I think ran second for governor, a healthcare moderate Democrat, 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:21.520 to be the nominee. And why they chose this Troy Jackson, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:25.240 who has been called platin or light Maybe he's platin 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.040 or similar, I don't know, but I couldn't vote for 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.920 him either, And I don't think most right thinking people 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.360 who have been Democrats would and can vote for a 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.880 man like Jackson or obviously Abdul l sayeth. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.240 Look, I feel the same way. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.760 I mean, there are fringe groups I call the new 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:52.800 Wolk Right that are virulently in my view, anti Semitic 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.840 or white nationalist. I want no part of those people. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.720 I won't platform them, I want nothing to do with them, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.559 and I will never have anything to do with them. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.760 But they're not running his candidates. You know, what would 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.920 you do? In Texas? You got a guy I call 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.079 him six gender tell Rico. He claims that there is 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.120 not two genders. I only know if two of you 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.200 know what the other four are. He says there are six. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.439 He says God is non binary. All these years as 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.360 a Christian, Doug, I've been saying, you know, our father 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.280 in heaven. He says he's running a vegan campaign in 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.920 a cattle state. He's against you know, oil production in 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.319 an oil state. And on top of that, he's championing 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.560 the rights of men to play women's sports and the 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.240 champion and the rights of you know men to biological 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:42.640 men to have access to abortion. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.120 I can't figure that one out either. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:48.160 Yeah, Sean, I have real problems with tol Rico. I 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.600 also have problems with Ken Paxson. I'm not quite sure 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.280 what I would do, but most likely that would be 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.000 a race. I would take a pass one. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.200 Maybe you stay home and have a beer. If you 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.599 lived in Texas is how he's saying. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.960 That wouldn't be a bad way to spend the day. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.080 All right, quick break right back more we Democrat Doug 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.679 shown like other Democrats except for elected ones that have 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:17.480 no courage, saying that the you know, communist socialist movement 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.960 and the takeover the party is very troubling to him. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.600 More with him on the other side than your calls 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:28.439 coming up eight hundred and ninety four to one. Shomp right, 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.160 I'll final moments with Doug shown, and remember he was 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.280 a Clinton guy. But you know, Clinton said the era 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.320 of big government's over, the end of welfare as we 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.360 know it. You're not hearing that from these DSA lunatics. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.800 So it's frustrating to me that the silence to me 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:49.480 has been deafening. And this seems to be an environment 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.959 of fear except for people like yourself. 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:55.760 Mark Penn has taking it on. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.959 Some former Obama people have taken it on, some for 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.960 more you know, former Clinton people. Bill Maher has taken 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.480 it on, Joe Manchin has taken it on, and then 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.600 John Fetterman gets abused because he's the only elected official 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:12.040 that takes it on. It seems like the level of 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:17.720 fear that this is now the old Democratic Party, and 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.640 they dare not criticize it for fear that they will 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.880 be primaried, like the way mom Nani got three incumbent 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.360 Democrats off the ticket to replace him with these lunatics. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.400 That's exactly right. I mean, Sean, We've talked about this 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.719 in the past, but the left is virulent with their criticism. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.840 They do not in any way countenance any deviation from 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:47.079 their philosophy, and they clearly have intimidated what is left 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:52.079 of the mainstream moderate Democratic Party into this big tench strategy, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:58.400 which to me is capitulation to a brand of politics 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.760 that is literally contrary to everything. As you said before, 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.559 we've been brought up to believe and revere. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:07.439 See. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.840 I think that people like Chuck Schumer for example, or 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.920 Came Jeffries for example, they're minority leaders. 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.240 I argue in name only. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.559 A long time ago, I was saying that Nancy Pelosi 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.000 was Speaker in name only and that AOC was the 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.240 real leader in the House. I don't think I turned 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.319 out to be wrong. Polly Market had her leading as 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.200 the leading candidate for the twenty twenty eight presidential election, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.680 and I do believe that is the brain trust. I 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.959 do believe this fight, the oligarchy tour was Bernie handing 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:45.280 the mantle to AOC. But regardless of Schumer's silence, regardless 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.040 of that, I think that he's gone anyway. I think 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.920 Keem Jeffries, you know, won't be leader anyway. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:54.560 Am I wrong? 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:02.160 The left will be in charge, whether piticularly it's Hakem 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:06.920 Jeffries or somebody else. Similarly in the Senate, if it's 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.000 Humor or somebody else, the far left, if the Democrats 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.960 take control, will be the balance of power, and that 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.439 to me is cataclysmic. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:22.160 Yeah, I mean, how does a party recover from I mean, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.560 two hundred and fifty dsa Kennedy since twenty nineteen, forty 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:27.840 more on the ball this year. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:29.640 That's a lot of people, Doug. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.320 It's too many people as far as I'm concerned. And 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.520 they are neither Democrats as I know the party, nor 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.760 are they willing to compromise, engage in dialogue. And they have, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.760 as you said before, quite comprehensively an agenda that is 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:51.040 antithetical to both capitalism and the way our democracy and 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:52.800 federal system is organized. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.000 To me, it's just crazy. I mean, you're gonna have. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.440 You can have disagreements. I mean we've had disagreement over 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:07.200 the years, but not about crazy. I mean, this is insane. Well, anyway, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.240 we do always appreciate you being on you know, one 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.800 of the few honest Democrats left. I guess at this 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:17.160 point and there I think their lack of moral clarity 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.560 and their cowardice is going to hurt them in the end. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.560 But we'll see over time. You never know. You never know. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.960 That's why I tell people you better get out and 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.200 vote until the votes accounted. You better defeat these people 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.560 or else they will change this country. It will be unrecognizable. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.680 Doug Schan, thank you, my friend. Let me play just 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.400 to give you some insight as to how Craig Cray 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:44.000 crazy the left has gotten. You know, Stacy Abrams, the 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:48.120 South has been under authoritarian rules since seventeen seventy six. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.320 Member Chuck Schumer said, Jim Crow two point zero talking 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:52.240 about Georgia. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.840 And then what happened? What was the net result? 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.040 More African Americans in Georgia than ever before. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:15:59.680 Went out to vote. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.640 They were lying, they were playing the race card. You 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.040 see it every two years, every four years, every election. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:10.920 You know, Republicans are racist. There's sexist, misogynists, homophobes, xenophobes, islamophobe, 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.600 trans vobe. They want dirty air and water, and they 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.960 want to kill old people. But you know, here we 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.720 go again, it's an election cycle. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.960 I'm from the South, the Mississippi, came of age in Georgia. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.480 And I know you've been spending a lot of time 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.200 in the South recently when we've been to Tennessee and 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.800 Louisiana and North Carolina. And what I tell people when 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.960 they want to understand what authoritarianism can look like in 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.920 the US, I say it looks South. We have lived 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.840 under soft authoritarianism. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.920 I would say since seventeen seventy six. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.320 That's Stacy Abrams. One more thing I want to do. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.200 I want to play for you. You know again, it's 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:56.920 only you know, democratic, the democratic punditry class, or those 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.920 not elected that have the moral clarity courage to take 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.640 on the radicals that have taken over this party. Kakeem Jeffries, 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.240 for example, over the weekend, was on Meet the Press 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.000 and is pressed whether he would vote to abolish is 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.680 if Democrats take control of the House. He doesn't want 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.800 to answer it because he doesn't want to piss off 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.520 the people that are really in charge, because he's a 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.200 minority leader in name only. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.920 If Democrats win back the House, if you become speaker, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.600 would you bring a vote to abolish ICE to the 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:31.280 House floor. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.840 Well, here's what I believe unites Democrats in terms of 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.800 dealing with the situation that we confront in this country. First, 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.439 we need a safe, secure, and strong border. We also 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.840 need to proceed under the principle that immigration enforcement in 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.320 this country should be fair, just and humane. And clearly, 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.720 ICE is completely and totally out of control, which is 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:59.640 why Democrats in this Congress haven't given Donald Trump's violent 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.200 mass deportation machine a dot. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.920 I mean, the level of cowardice is unprecedented. I've never 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.679 seen anything like it. Joe and Florid, Joe, how are 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:09.119 you glad? 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:09.480 You called? 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.879 Yeah, I'm good, and you touched on exactly. What I 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.320 complaint with you is you don't make these people answer 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.560 the question and they still get on your show. I'm 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.200 going to use the example last week you had Deblasio 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.359 on your TV show, and the example I'll site was 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.000 you asked them how much should somebody that earns one 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.600 hundred thousand, a million of whatever how much should they 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.760 be able to keep? And you never made him answer 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.240 that question, Joe. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.200 Let me ask you a question I have to answer. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.360 You can go back and watch that interview. And I've 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:49.040 had other DSA candidates that have answered those questions. I 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.399 can't make if I asked somebody a question four or 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.200 five times, you know, I can't make the answer when 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.800 they're ducking and dodging and weaving. But the point is me, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.199 I mean, I'm very impressed with the intelligence of my 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.640 audience on radio and TV in my podcast that they 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:07.800 get it why. 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:08.600 They don't want to answer. 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.240 They don't want to and I've had other people answer 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.040 the question. So the reason I'm putting these you know, 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:18.560 crazy lunatics on is so that if they answer there. 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.240 You know, for example, I've had somebody say ninety five 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:26.200 cents out of every dollar should go to the government, 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.560 and you know, billionaires should only be able to keep 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.240 five cents. They're not going to stay here and run 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.800 their businesses here and create jobs here if that's the case. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.720 So you know, what was the guy? So what was 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.959 the guy's name land that we had on radio? And 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.520 I said to this guy, he answered every question and 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:47.159 he supports most of the DSA agenda. You know, we 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.119 had this guy on what was his name that you 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:53.120 can say it on air, the guy running marketing. Okay, 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.359 so well he sounded like a nice guy. I was 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.920 very I was respectful, and you know, at the end 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:00.919 he did answer those ques questions. And then at the 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.640 end I said, so basically, your philosophy is two each 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.040 according to their need, from each according to their ability. 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.960 And then his answer to that question was yeah, I 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.400 agree with that. And I said, well, you know who 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.240 said that first? And he says no, but I guess 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.440 you're going to tell me, And I said that would 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.639 be Carl Marx. So you're a Marxist. So you know, 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.280 I don't know how you expect. Do you expect me 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.680 to like push my hand through the TV set and 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.879 force somebody to answer? I mean, I don't know what 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.960 you want me to do. I think their non answer 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:31.600 is an answer. 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.879 If you like he's been on many times, if you 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:36.960 know they're not going to answer again, I just don't 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.440 think they should get the airtime. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.159 He did answer a lot more questions than he has previously. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.920 I keep what I do is I keep asking it 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.840 as many times as I feel like I have made 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:49.480 my point. 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.520 They want to eliminate the audience gets it now Congress 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.760 to choose the president and judges. Do you agree with that? 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.879 I would like to see the electoral College abolished. 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.560 You support eliminating the Senate? Aren't there? 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.840 I think that as a long term reform, we do 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.960 need to make Congress more reflective of a representative democracy. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:07.320 Do you want to abolish ice? 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:08.040 I do. 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:09.960 Do you want to defund the Department of War? 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.760 I do think that we need to radically cut our 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.040 defense spending. The Pentagons has never been able to pass 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:15.520 a budget. 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.280 Would you eliminate cash bill? 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.199 I do think the cash tail is a is a 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.520 punitive measure that goes against our constitution. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.720 Do you think that public ownership of corporation should be 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.920 taken over by the government. It depends on what industry 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.960 to each American, based on their needs, from each American, 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.000 based on their ability. Do you support that? 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.800 I think that's a I think that's a fine concept. 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.480 You know who said that? First? You don't do you 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.000 inform me? I will inform you. A guy by the 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.040 name of Carl Marx. I mean, Joe. You're not giving 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.320 me any credit at all, which is fine if. 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:53.440 You know that's not fair either. I give you plenty 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:57.520