WEBVTT - Bridges: Nature Abhors Them

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant with Jerry Rowland

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<v Speaker 1>with me Josh Clark, Mr. Stuff you Should Know featuring

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark's about to say you never introduced yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>then you done did it twice three three times? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you always introduce your but you never say your last name.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's extruct me. John. No, I say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark, do you Yeah? Every time I should listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sometimes that explains the glazed overlook in your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes whenever we start um bridges. Yeah, is that your intro? Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>I like them. Maybe we can add like a scat

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<v Speaker 1>drummer on top of that. We have that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>um when we're doing uh listener mail, there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of oh yeah, well that's not scat drumming. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that's more of a shuffle mhm scots like

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<v Speaker 1>yeah like that. Yeah, you should get Hodgment to scat

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<v Speaker 1>for you sometime. He's got a lot of boot boot

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<v Speaker 1>bidus going on when he's scatting any jazz hands. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly Manhattan Transfer level. He's intermediate. Yeah uh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah so again, Princess. Yeah, you know, I bet we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear from some folks because there are bridge enthusiasts,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is kind of neat. Yeah. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're like modern marvels of engineering, and actually there's

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<v Speaker 1>some ancient marvels of engineering too, as far as they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, there you Basically I was talking to our

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<v Speaker 1>pal um Adam the architect o, the bridge builder. No, yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a building builder. We're a building designer. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he actually knows how to build the buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>He just knows how to tell other people how to

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<v Speaker 1>build that. Adam can't swing a hammer. He was saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>um uh the um. Basically, the structural engineers who designed

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<v Speaker 1>bridges are just straight up geniuses. Like it requires a

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<v Speaker 1>basically a genius to factor in all of this stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone can design a building, you know, there's just four

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<v Speaker 1>walls and a bunch of floors. Put a roof on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bridge though it's different. Yes, right, there aren't walls really, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there can be bridges of Madison County they had walls.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they have walls. I was going to mention

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<v Speaker 1>the bridges of Madison County. Yeah, I love those that

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be a beam bridge, I guess, yeah, with a trust, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the top trust was the top trust film a through

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<v Speaker 1>trust through trusts, and then below that. If they were

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<v Speaker 1>below it would be a deck trust. But don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that counts as a trust. It's more just like

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<v Speaker 1>a house on top of the bridge. I bet their

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<v Speaker 1>structural support there. May thought it was mainly just to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the rain off of you when you crossed the bridge,

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<v Speaker 1>like just an extra little thank you for crossing the bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just to draw in Lackey tourists

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted to have their picture made. Another famous bridge,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that the Headless Horseman couldn't cross in the

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<v Speaker 1>legend of Sleepy Hallow. Oh yeah, wouldn't that a bridge? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Trolls of under bridges that draw bridges are pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen Maximum Overdrive? The beginning of that movie? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been many, many years. I saw it again. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it again very recently, like this year, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is it's maybe better than it was before. It holds

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<v Speaker 1>up as a crappy movie. Still. Yeah, the whole soundtrack

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<v Speaker 1>is a C D C by the way, which you

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<v Speaker 1>should love the whole sound I do love that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember that. And didn't Stephen King direct that,

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<v Speaker 1>which he doesn't do much, right, No, but maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only one is definitely far interesting. But there's a

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<v Speaker 1>great draw draw bridge scene in there. Uh did someone

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<v Speaker 1>jump it jump the span as it raised? No? I

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<v Speaker 1>think their car fell into their truck felling. Okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>usually the drawbridge scene is like I can make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, this one was you're all doomed and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me also recommend Budapest for bridges. You mean I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Budapest a couple of New years as ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I went there like twenty years ago. Okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the bridges are amazing that I think like

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<v Speaker 1>five because they connect the two sides, yeah, Buddha and Pest, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one is totally different, like it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>completely different design. Yeah, and they're just all gorgeous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just start with a bunch of bridge recommendations. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to recommend the City of Pittsburgh baseball game there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just just gorgeous. Those beautiful bridges that you

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<v Speaker 1>can see from the baseball stadium and the river. That

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<v Speaker 1>was when we were a Toyota commercial ring. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed in the hotel and just eight um sog

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<v Speaker 1>copenny r no chicken sog. Right, it's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of it. But you can see the baseball stadium

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<v Speaker 1>out your hotel window. Yeah. And I saw some bridges

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, you walk across the bridge to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Really swe did what else any other bridges, well, Brooklyn Bridge,

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Gate Bridge, this are like the famous ones. They're

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<v Speaker 1>barely even worth mentioning. Yeah, but the Brooklyn Bridge is

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<v Speaker 1>for your money. It's which is free. It's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>great thing to do to walk across it. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just beautiful. I've never done that. You should do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the Geico Lizard did it, and I haven't. That

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<v Speaker 1>guy's like Australian or something. Well, maybe we should just

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<v Speaker 1>animate you and have you walk across it. Uh. One

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<v Speaker 1>more thing if you want to know more about the

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Bridge, I don't remember which one we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and but there is a really cool documentary about the

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Bridge and it's building by Ken Burns. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's on Netflix. I'll have to check that

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<v Speaker 1>out then, yep, because I like cain Burns and Brooklyn bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you ready? Uh yeah, man, So bridges have

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<v Speaker 1>been around for a very long time. This article is

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<v Speaker 1>by Robert Lam and another dude named Michael Morrissey together.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they were locked away in a closet for

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of months while they worked this out together. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he the one of the first ones that talking about

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<v Speaker 1>ancient bridges that they mentioned in here, the Arcadeco Bridge

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<v Speaker 1>in ancient Greece. Did you see that thing? It's really neat.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it still stands. It's a three thousand year

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<v Speaker 1>old bridge, and uh, it's just kind of cool to

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<v Speaker 1>think about, you know, ancient civilizations and ancient times. People said,

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<v Speaker 1>well I want to get over there, and I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>and so let's build something to do that. I need

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<v Speaker 1>something to walk on or drive my card over that.

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<v Speaker 1>Si Um, I just saw that. I saw the world's

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<v Speaker 1>oldest bridge that's still in use. Um is in Turkey

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<v Speaker 1>over the Mulis River, I believe from eight Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what that's how it's constructed. It is a single

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<v Speaker 1>It is a single stone slab. Archy. No, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a stone slab, single arch. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very basic. Yeah, but the arch it's super old. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's still in use today because whoever figured it out

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<v Speaker 1>came upon this very elegant solution to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>problems that a bridge poses. Because, as you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>when when you come upon like a river or creek

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<v Speaker 1>or something, you say, I'm on this side and I

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<v Speaker 1>need to be on the other side, so I need

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<v Speaker 1>something to walk across. Yeah, okay, that's a basic solution.

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<v Speaker 1>But the further and further you get, the more and

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<v Speaker 1>more problems. Like, as bridge builders say, most span more problems. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what we should have said is I want

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<v Speaker 1>to walk across and live. I want to walk all

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<v Speaker 1>the way across, right, I don't want to fall down. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get halfway across and have it snapped.

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<v Speaker 1>So over the years, as people have come upon problems

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<v Speaker 1>where you are going to build a bridge that will

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<v Speaker 1>snapping and kill you, they've come up with solutions to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent that from happening. That's pretty much the pursuit of

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<v Speaker 1>bridge building is coming up with ways to prevent a

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<v Speaker 1>bridge from collapsing, and a lot of trial and error

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, you know, and a lot of real

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<v Speaker 1>significant disasters. In fact, there's a Time magazine slide show

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<v Speaker 1>um called worst Bridge Collapses in Past one years, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's got all these photos of collapse bridges and

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<v Speaker 1>little descriptions and the number of fatalities and everything. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really interesting all these different bridges of lapsed

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<v Speaker 1>and failed for all these different reasons. Well and after

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<v Speaker 1>each one, uh, it's very sad, of course, but after

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<v Speaker 1>each one someone goes, oh, well we should do this

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<v Speaker 1>for the next one. We should not forget that bolt

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<v Speaker 1>next time. Well, that's that could be human Ara, True,

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened. Yeah, I'm sure. All right. So should we

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<v Speaker 1>start off with the bats be A t s. Beams, arches, trusses,

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<v Speaker 1>and suspensions are the main components of the structural components

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<v Speaker 1>of a bridge. It's very simple, that's it. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know to construct your own bridge. And

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<v Speaker 1>with these four things you can make almost any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bridge. Um. We're gonna cover mainly beam bridges, arch bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>trust bridges, suspension bridges, and then the super cool looking

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<v Speaker 1>cable stayed bridge. It is super cool, probably my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>looking bridge in the world that I came across and

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<v Speaker 1>reach researching. This is a cable stayed bridge, the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's in the article. Oh yeah, they look like look

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<v Speaker 1>like sales gorgeous, the big triangles rising up. It's lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>But they look a little more modern to me. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that classic architecture like the Brooklyn Bridge does,

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<v Speaker 1>or like the Tower Bridge in London. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I like it. Yeah, you like the modern look. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a modern guy. I'm super mod alright. Um. They

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<v Speaker 1>point out in the article, which is very key. What

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about. The span of the bridge is the

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<v Speaker 1>distance between the supports, and that's where um, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>it all goes down. Basically, Yes, that's got to be strong,

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<v Speaker 1>there be those are something that every single bridge has

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<v Speaker 1>is a span and at least one support most likely

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah you know, um, and there's different The reason

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<v Speaker 1>that there are different types of bridges because different bridge

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<v Speaker 1>designs that that bats designs what is it, beams, arches, trusses,

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<v Speaker 1>and suspension. They provide stability for varying span lengths. So

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<v Speaker 1>like a beam, if you have like a fifty ft

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<v Speaker 1>um span, just put a a like a very long

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<v Speaker 1>log over over the span and there you go, there's

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<v Speaker 1>your bridge. But as you get further and further along,

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<v Speaker 1>you have more and more problems supporting that span, so

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<v Speaker 1>you need different types of solutions, and the different length

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<v Speaker 1>of the span calls usually for a specific type of

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<v Speaker 1>bridge design. Yeah, and generally it it'll I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of overlap, of course, but UM beam bridges

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<v Speaker 1>tend to be the shortest, followed by arch bridges and

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<v Speaker 1>then suspension bridges, and I think those UM the cable

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<v Speaker 1>stayed bridge is is kind of a suspension bridge, so

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<v Speaker 1>that counts. It's like a kind of a variation that

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<v Speaker 1>can be very long as well. Yeah, not quite as

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<v Speaker 1>long as suspension bridges though from what I understand, and

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<v Speaker 1>this UM, the suspension bridge affords the longest span. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got a big long span, it's it's suspension time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're also super expensive. Yeah, suspension bridges because all

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge builders know that you've got a log span

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<v Speaker 1>that you're trying to cross, you probably got some deep

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<v Speaker 1>pockets and they're gonna milk you for it. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every penny. Yeah. Yeah, Like you need a suspension bridge

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your guy. Um, all right, so let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of different forces that can act

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<v Speaker 1>on a bridge to make it not as stable. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Will cover a few of the other ones later, but

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<v Speaker 1>the main two here early on our tension and compression.

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<v Speaker 1>And the very easy way to think about these two

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<v Speaker 1>things is tension is like if you if you and

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<v Speaker 1>I are pulling a rope, like you're on one end

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm on the other, We're gonna pull that sucker tight,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I'm gonna fall over due to your massive strength.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty huge, but um, there will be some tension

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<v Speaker 1>in that rope. Yeah, f do you fall down? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd start laughing if there would be tension. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The tension is the lengthening of something. Compression is the

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<v Speaker 1>shortening of something, Yeah, like a spring collapse. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to visualize when you're talking like springs and

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<v Speaker 1>ropes and that kind of thing. But if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about just a single deck of a bridge, which you

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<v Speaker 1>think of as one piece, Um, it's tough to it

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<v Speaker 1>starts to get tough to visualize it until you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to look at like a bridge deck

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<v Speaker 1>like the roadway on the bridge as really having a

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<v Speaker 1>top and a bottom. Yes, and forces, Well, the compression

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<v Speaker 1>acts in the downward motion on the top, and the

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<v Speaker 1>tension acts from the underneath coming up on the bottom. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the bottom of the bridge, underneath it, of the

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<v Speaker 1>deck is going to be spread out under the force

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<v Speaker 1>of tension. We're on top where it's being pushed down compressed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's compression. Yeah, and they kind of in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 1>work together. Even though they're sort of opposite things, they're

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<v Speaker 1>definitely related, right. Uh. And what will happen is if

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<v Speaker 1>these uh, if you aren't a very good bridge builder, um,

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<v Speaker 1>buckling will occur when it's compressed on the top, and

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<v Speaker 1>snapping can occur on the bottom when tension is at work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. It all sounds very confusing, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>just I gotta do is like put your hand out

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<v Speaker 1>and look at it, you know, and so or if

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<v Speaker 1>you take and push down on your hand or on

0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:31.000
<v Speaker 1>your hand, right, you know what I'm saying, like that, yeah,

0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:35.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. Um, the whole thing becomes very very evident

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at a beam bridge, right, the most

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<v Speaker 1>basic form of a bridge, like if you dropped a

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<v Speaker 1>log over a river, right, and this this thing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>This article used the example of like taking a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of milk crates and putting like a two by four

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<v Speaker 1>across them. Right, if you put like a bowling ball

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<v Speaker 1>on a bowling ball stand so it doesn't roll around, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd awkward on top of them, on top, right in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of your two by four, which makes up

0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.960
<v Speaker 1>your beam bridge deck. Right, Um, you're gonna see that

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<v Speaker 1>it bows, and what you're seeing is that on the

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<v Speaker 1>top it's being compressed. On the bottom, it's being um tensed, right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you've just done is add a load to

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<v Speaker 1>that bridge. And there's two kinds of loads to start

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<v Speaker 1>out with. There's a deadload, which is the weight of

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge and all of its materials combined. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a live load, which is say, like the cars

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<v Speaker 1>and the people and the trains and everything that that

0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.080
<v Speaker 1>add the extra weight while they're moving across it and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you add this extra load, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge is already dealing with its deadload. You's got

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<v Speaker 1>to hold that up. That's job number one for a bridge. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you had a three hundred foot two by

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<v Speaker 1>four and two milk crates it's gonna sag in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle just naturally, right, and it might even break. And

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<v Speaker 1>there have been bridges that have been built that where

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<v Speaker 1>the guy forgot to carry the one or whatever and

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't stand up under their own weight and they

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<v Speaker 1>collapse from their own weight. They collapse from the deadload.

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<v Speaker 1>So job number one of the bridge is to support

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<v Speaker 1>its own weight. Job number one point one is to

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<v Speaker 1>support all of the liveload the traffic that goes across

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<v Speaker 1>it as well. That's right. Uh. And the two ways

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to do this to counteract tension and

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<v Speaker 1>compression are dissipation and transference force or transferring the force.

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<v Speaker 1>So with dissipation you spread out that force equally, you

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<v Speaker 1>spread out over a wide area, and with transferring um

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<v Speaker 1>you move the area of weakness to an area of strength, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which pretty simple. Yeah, they're kind of tough to distinguish sometimes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But for example, like the

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<v Speaker 1>best example of dissipation is the arch, which we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how that works in a second. Um. But suspension

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<v Speaker 1>bridges are best at transferring the um the tension and

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<v Speaker 1>compression forces. That's right. So if you're if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about to beam bridge that most basic kind. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing they're gonna do to make it stronger, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is use back in the old days, use wood than

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<v Speaker 1>later iron and then steel, maybe some concrete mixed in um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the size of the beam is gonna be really important.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the height of the beam is important because the

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<v Speaker 1>the top is gonna experience stress, the bottom is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>experience stress in the middle not as much. So a

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<v Speaker 1>good I beam, a good tall ibam is what you want. Yeah,

0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't realize that. That's why I beams are made.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I beam, the center of the deck or the

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.320
<v Speaker 1>beam or whatever, any kind of beam is going to

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<v Speaker 1>experience the least amount of compression or tension. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>the top or the bottom. So you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>put quite as much material into the center of the

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<v Speaker 1>beam as you do the top and the bottom to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent buckling and snapping. That's right. So with the beam bridge,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna add what's called a truss uh to make

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<v Speaker 1>it stronger. This uh, we'll talk about trust is more

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<v Speaker 1>but it's basically reriangulated strength. And you'll see a trust

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever seen like a a train bridge like

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<v Speaker 1>you see a trust on top or like in areas

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<v Speaker 1>where they get a lot of snow, roof supports will

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<v Speaker 1>frequently be trusses. Yeah, and that's a three trust on

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<v Speaker 1>top we already said. And if it's underneath then it

0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.720
<v Speaker 1>is uh the deck trust and you can have both,

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.600
<v Speaker 1>but usually, like with the railroads, you'll see like that

0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.879
<v Speaker 1>top trust not the same as a trestle. That's different.

0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:36.040
<v Speaker 1>That's like like a roller coaster, you know. So after

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<v Speaker 1>this break, why don't we talk more about trust bridges? Nice? So,

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<v Speaker 1>no joke. Trusses are one of my favorite things now,

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty neat. After doing some research into him, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love trust. Yeah, and it's because they're so elegant

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and simple. They're elegantly simple basically. So, um, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this really great explanation where it was on Make magazine

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was called like ask Make, how

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<v Speaker 1>do trust? His work? Pretty straightforward, um, and it basically

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<v Speaker 1>had like a really get a great graphic of taking

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<v Speaker 1>using popsicle sticks. Right, Let's say you make a square

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<v Speaker 1>out of popsicle sticks, and you joined the popsicle sticks

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<v Speaker 1>together at the corners where the ends all meet. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>little Elmer's paste. Maybe makes sense. It seems pretty supportive, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But when you pressed down on any one of those joints,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where the load's going to be centered or

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<v Speaker 1>distributed most remember the ends the square shift to the side,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden you have a rhombus. Well,

0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 1>rambus is inherently less structurally sound than square, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why you very rarely see rambus as in architecture. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>with a triangle, when you press down at any one

0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 1>of the joints, it distributes that compression or tension directly

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 1>through the center of the beam, so the triangle stays

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<v Speaker 1>totally rigid. And when you add, the more triangles you add,

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<v Speaker 1>the more support you have, So they're like basically like

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the shape goes, the superconductor of transferring

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<v Speaker 1>or distributing compression or tension. Yeah, that's a good way

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<v Speaker 1>to put it. And that's why when you see that

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<v Speaker 1>that train tress alone that has that trust on topics,

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<v Speaker 1>got all those beautiful diagonal uh pieces of metal. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just for for looks, even though it is

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<v Speaker 1>cool looking. No. One of the other great things about

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<v Speaker 1>a trust is that there you know, it's like just

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<v Speaker 1>a three steel beams or three whatever aluminium beams. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just three pieces of metal usually fixed together. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the other key that I left out. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to be connected at the ends equally distributed from each end. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you you drill a hole to to rivet

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<v Speaker 1>one side of the trust to another, or one end

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<v Speaker 1>of the trust to another end, the the other end

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<v Speaker 1>has to be equally far away. Do you see what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, okay, they wouldn't just be like

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<v Speaker 1>just drill that other one wherever. So anyway you have

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<v Speaker 1>to the place where the trust sides join together has

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the ends. And then but one of

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.919
<v Speaker 1>the things that it allows for is for wind to

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<v Speaker 1>blow through it easily. That's a huge point about trusses.

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>They're not solid in that they don't they don't put

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot of resistance to when they allow it

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<v Speaker 1>to flow through, which is really kind of what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see when you're building bridges. Yeah, I think even

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<v Speaker 1>the covered bridges have is more of a that's type

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<v Speaker 1>thing on the sides. Right. Yes, it's not solid, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be dumb a covered bridge. Yeah. I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>walls were usually like a lattice so wind could pass through.

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Now and they had a than a roof and like

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<v Speaker 1>a lattice e side is there, right, Yeah, maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds. I think those are just to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>rain off. Oh yeah, that's what you said earlier and

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 1>keep shooting down there. Yeah. But anyway, trust is rock,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Yes, there's

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<v Speaker 1>your T shirt. Trusses rock. So are we at arches?

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Do we say that they frequently used trusses to support

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<v Speaker 1>beam bridges? Yeah? Arches. Now, when we say a bridge

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<v Speaker 1>is an arch bridge, the deck is not some big

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<v Speaker 1>hill that you drive over. The deck is flat the

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<v Speaker 1>arches underneath, uh right yeah. And you can have a

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 1>single arch if your span isn't along, or you can

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>have a big one with like six or eight arches.

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Although I've seen I think there are like short arch

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>bridges that actually do go up and down, you know,

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like if there's natural arch bridges, like rock formations are

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like that and that's why they're still standing. There's um

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a bridge that forms like a perfect circle.

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<v Speaker 1>So like when when you see it reflected in the water,

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>it just looks like a circle. Arch bridges are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cool too. There are no trusses, but they're beautiful in

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<v Speaker 1>their own way. That's true. Uh So the arches obviously

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<v Speaker 1>semi circular. Um. And like you said, if it meets

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:47.439
<v Speaker 1>the water and reflects nicely, fully circular, fully circular. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>And the entire form is gonna divert weight onto what

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<v Speaker 1>are called abutments. And this is what takes on the pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I mean, if it's just a single arch,

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<v Speaker 1>those abutments are probably going to be part of the

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<v Speaker 1>earth on one side or the other. Yeah. Um. And

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>the whole point of an abutment is when you press

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<v Speaker 1>down in an arch, or when you know, gravity pushes

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>down on it or it's compressed, that force goes downward

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and it makes the sides of the arch go out.

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Those abutments press inward, so that the force of compression

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<v Speaker 1>just goes straight down through the arch circle the semicircle

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and into the earth or into the ground or whatever. Yeah.

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And and it's the arch. The what I thought was interesting,

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it's really all about fighting that compression. There isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tension that comes into play with an arch bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the tension is grows more and more possible

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<v Speaker 1>when the degree of the arc or arch grows. Okay, yeah,

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 1>so that could come into play. It can, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, when you're building an arch, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about compression more than tension, gotcha. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a stylistically and artistically design wise. They're all kinds of arches.

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Baroque arches, Renaissance arches, Roman arches. They were the Romans built,

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, arch bridges that are still standing today. Um,

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>have you been to Rome? Yeah? Man, it's just like

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 1>you're walking along and all of a sudden you look

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to your leaps and there's like a two thousand year

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<v Speaker 1>old aqueduct, you know, hundred year old arch just sitting there. Yeah.

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time I went to Europe coming

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 1>back and being sort of like bummed out, you know,

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>because we're walking along and then there's Burger king. You know,

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>this is two hundred years old. She go to Rome.

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I know, my house is like eighty years old, and

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it seems super old. Nothing by Romans standards. No, but

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little drafty in those thousand year old apartments. Yeah,

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's so neat though, because I mean like there's

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>so much old surviving stuff that not all of it's

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>even meant to be preserved. Some of it's just like

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>just there. It's not like a part of a park

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<v Speaker 1>or an historic exhibit. It's just part of the city. Yeah,

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah, I've heard other tourists complaining about how

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 1>dirty Rome is, and I'm always just like, come on,

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like focusing on the wrong part. It's been around

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Um yeah. And also yeah, don't

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>be stupid and just look around you like they're complaining

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in front of a two thousand year old fountain. I

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't notice that was particularly dirty. I mean, it wasn't

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>any more dirty than like New York or anything any

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>other big city. But the thing with the arch though

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>very stable once you get it built. But the building

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>process it's tricky because until you connect those two ends, um,

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that's what gives it its strength. So until that happens,

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a little dicey. Yeah. Oh yeah, I had some

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>scaffolding come on time. Yeah. And they used to build

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>wood scalf scaffolds and supports to hold the thing and

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>then you just would build it in. Um. Now they

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>use suspension cables like I think the biggest arch bridge

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>on the planet is West Virginia's New River Gorge Bridge,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and that thing is unbelievable. It really is. And what's

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>cool is when you look at it, UM, it just

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>it uses the cliff walls or the walls of the

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>gorge as the abutments. Beautiful stuff, super strong. And that's

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>where we're going to talk about that in our base dumping.

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I know. That's the fact that ties these two podcasts together.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>It's where they have Bridge Day talk about elegantly simple.

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>So suspension bridges, for my money, are where it's at.

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I think they deserve their own UM episode. Oh yeah, pretty,

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty much they're they're that complex. Like this is

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>just the briefest overview of bridges in general, but especially

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>with suspension bridges. It feels like there's just so much

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>going on with those things. Yeah, I agree. I mean,

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>Kim Burns did like an eight hour long documentary the

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Bridge alone. Yeah, that's true. He's a deep diver.

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>We're over of you guys with a giant helmet to

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>go over his giant haircut, because a pretty big hair

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>doan UM. All right, So suspension bridges we mentioned, of course,

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Golden Gate Bridge and the Brooklyn Bridge. This is when

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you have your deck, your roadway is suspended by cables

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>between can be a number of them, but uh to

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>at least two tall towers that are supporting all of

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>this weight and compression is pushing down, traveling up through

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>those cables and transferring all that compression through all those

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>lovely cables. Right. So, I mean another way to look

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>at it is exactly what it sounds like. It's the

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>bridge is suspended from cables, right, But if you really

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>start looking into what it's doing, it's not just holding

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>these things up. What's what's going on is there's a

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>transfer of that natural compression of the deck up through

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the lines, up through the cables up down up to

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the towers, which, like you said, send them down to

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the earth. Right, So the towers that hold the bridge

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>up are at the same time distributing or dissipating the

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>forces of compression that are trying to pull the bridge

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>down into the water below it. Yes, and the tension

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>you also have to deal with as well, and apparently

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you deal with that using another part of the structure

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>of suspension bridges, which are called anchorages. Yeah. Now, that's

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>just what the towers connected to at the base right now. No,

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>huh so it's like um anchorages is like the abutment essentially. Yes,

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>they're they're like a suspension bridges abutments. Whereas as you

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>get closer to the middle of the bridges, that's where

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the towers are. But on the very ends, like say

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>where the roadway hits the bridge, you're gonna have a

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>massive piece of rock or massive piece of concrete, and

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:01.959
<v Speaker 1>those are the anchorages. And you have horizontal cables that

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>distribute the compression from the bottom of the bridge to

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>um the anchorages and those those transfer those into the earth. Yeah.

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>And you might also, depending on the size of your

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>suspension bridge, have to have that below deck truss as

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>well to help stiffen the deck um. And you know,

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>if you have a four thousand foot bridge, you're gonna

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>have all all kinds of trusses and decks and cables.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>And I think I finally figured out what it is

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>about bridges that I love is that the the arc,

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the structural design that it needs to be strong, also

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>happens to be beautiful. Yeah, you know what I mean,

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Like the way the cables are arranged. It's not like

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, this looks great. It's like, well it

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>has to be like this, but it also happens to

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>be very striking, like Grace Jones, you know what I mean? Yeah,

0:30:55.240 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>absolutely so. Um So, suspension bridges are your favorite, huh.

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I like them because they have so much going on.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I like trust is because they're so elegantly simple and

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>they're just tough as nails. There's a bridge for everyone.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I think there really is. Um the cable stayed bridge,

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and we should say that suspension bridges. When you think

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>of a suspension bridge, probably probably think of the Golden

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>gate bridge or something like that. Right, Just a classic

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>suspension bridge, two towers to um anchorages, lots of suspension cables.

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>It's the suspension bridge and you think, well, then they're

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>probably pretty new. Wrong. Suspension bridges have been found in

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>various forms for hundreds of years at least, and apparently

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>the Inca were um masters at building rope suspension bridges

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>out of woven grass. Crazy man, Yeah, fifteen hundreds they

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>discovered the Spanish concreteadores stumbled upon these were like, what

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>in the world is going on here? Because the smart

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Europeans didn't figure this out for another like few hundred

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>years after that. That's right. Um, the inc Is still

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>have one of these bridges intact. It it spans ninety

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>ft um and they remake it every year as part

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>of a three day festival. Really nice, which is why

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it's still intact because the grass woven grass rope bridge

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't last all that long necessarily even though why when

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it's fresh and new, it's strong as an expiration date

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. But apparently, as we'll learn, all bridges

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>have an expiration date. All right, Well we'll take a

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>break then with that tease and talk about the cable

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>stayed bridge and then um, how you might die on

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>a bridge one day. Alright, so we're onto your favorite,

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>my friend, the super sleek, modern looking cable stayed bridge,

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>which is actually actually actually has been around since like

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>World War two. Yeah, but the idea which is modern.

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>The idea came from a dude named um Fast Ranchica

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Man and he was a contemporary of Kepler and brahi

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Um and he basically came up with the first design

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>for a cable stayed bridge back in the sixteenth century.

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>So what's what's the nuts and bolts of this thing.

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>So basically it is a rather than two towers like

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a suspension bridge uses, a cable state bridge uses one tower.

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Well not always um, there's plenty of them that have

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>more than one, but okay, but for a particular span

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of bridge, there's one tower supporting that one span, right, UM.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's basically you can't use it for as long

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>of a span as a suspension bridge. But if you

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>have a slightly shorter span and you don't want to

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>spend quite as much money and you don't want as

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>many wires up there and everything, you can go with

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the cable state bridge. So you have one usually one

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>UM tower holding up all the cables, and the cables

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>can either all connect to one point, which is called

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a UM radio pattern. Right, So it's like all these

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>different cables are connecting on the bridge deck at different points,

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>but they're all connecting at about a single point on

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.919
<v Speaker 1>the tower. Again architecturally lovely, very neat looking. And then

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>another way that you can do it is UM in

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a parallel pattern. So they're connected at different points on

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the deck and they connect at different points on the tower.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>And that's the case with the Erasmus Bridge, which I

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>think is the most beautiful bridge in the world in Holland.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Well that doesn't surprise me. I mean, look at that thing.

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Look at that pal Oh yeah, it's something else. Yeah,

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I wish you guys could see this. Look. It doesn't

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>look like very Dutch though, No, it looks very Um

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>it's like the New Holland. I guess, yeah, new Amsterdam.

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just picturing like Holland. I think of uh, you know,

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>wooden windmills and like two lips and stuff like that. Ye. Sure, yeah,

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>this is modern hauland for it looks like something that

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 1>would be in like Sydney, Australia. Well, they have great

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>bridge to they do. Maybe that's what I'm thinking, Um,

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>living bridge, Well, you are you done with those? Well

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say another design for cable state bridge

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>looks a lot like a sailboat, with the tower standing

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>straight up and then on each side cables going down

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>at a diagonal from it to make it look like

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a sailboat, sail and masked and again for structural integrity

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>more than anything, right, um living bridges sure, Uh, well,

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should say cable state bridges are uh

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they can't be as long as suspension bridges, but they

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>can be pretty long. Yeah, like have to close to

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>three thousand feet. But that's what I'm saying, Like, if

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you have a shorter span and you don't want to

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>use as many materials and hints, you spend as much

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>money at cable State bridge is a great alternative. Yeah.

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I wonder when cities, Uh, I wonder what the considerations are, um,

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like money, what you I would guess money first and

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>foremost money, what you probably is best for the land.

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>And but I also bet that that architecture comes into play,

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like how it looks in the city escape, don't you think,

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Like usually a city will have some sort of well

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>accept several designs, competing designs, and then probably well like

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta's case with the seventeenth street bridge, goes with

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the cheapest one and then half of it falls down

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>on the traffic later, like a couple of years later.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Did that happen? Yeah? Uh when um like to two

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>years ago? Really yeah, man, it was a big deal.

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Luckily it happened at like four in the morning or

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>five in the morning. But like when you're walking on

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the bridge, you know the side stuff one whole side

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>fell over onto seventy below, onto the onto the connector

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>right below. Yeah, I kind of remember that. Yeah, but

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it's an ugly bridge to begin with. Three million. Dude,

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're listening the guy who designed it, I'm sorry,

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to insult your work, but I but

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>do better. It just the city could have done better,

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I think. But I think what it came down to,

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it was. All of these are beautiful, but

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.439
<v Speaker 1>we're just going to spend the money on this one,

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, or whoever got the biggest kick back or

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>wherever that came from, not to be cynical. Living bridges. Yeah,

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about that. Um. If you go to northern

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>India to the here we go, uh, the Meghalaya region,

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that was good. All right, close enough, Um,

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>they have something pretty remarkable and they are called living bridges.

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And what they did was it's so rainy there that

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>all of their natural bridges were having a hard time

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>staying intact because of all the moisture from monsoons. Yeah,

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, you can't have a natural bridge

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>with that much water. So they said, why don't we

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>take these tree roots and grow them out of the

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>ground and span a river over the course of years

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and years and years and then basically plant on the

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>other side into the ground and this is now a

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 1>natural tree root bridge. Right, it's like giant living bonds.

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I like you're they were training routes to go a

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>certain way, and they would take a um, a tree,

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>a felled tree, and split it in half and use

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that as the guide. Right, it's like the structure so

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that they were building an arch, but they weren't making

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>an arch like sort of a temporary bridge exactly, and

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.720
<v Speaker 1>they let the roots grow along that and like they

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>would plan these things out, or they do plan these

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>things out over the course of like a decade. And

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I get the impression it's, um, the whole town's responsibilityly,

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>some people in the town's responsibility to make sure that

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>if you see your route starting to go down in

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the wrong place, you just pluck it up and put

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it back on a fell log that's guiding it across

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the way. Yeah, it's pretty neat, like it requires patients obviously,

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>but it also um, I imagine just once a day

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>someone walks down and it's like yep, looking good, and

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>then just walks away again, pets. The bridge says, keep growing,

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll walk across in ten years, buddy. And apparently those

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>things can last up to fifty years or the the

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>largest one that they have up to a hundred feet,

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>which is thirty meters for our friends in India. Um,

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>and it can bear the way to fifty people and

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>last up to five years, not fifty. That's what I said. Oh,

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought you said people, well, it's crazy, like you

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>gotta google these things. Yeah, they're very pretty, very pretty.

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>It looks very um dark crystally. Oh yeah, totally, you

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But they're not unsettling at all

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like the dark crystal right, which, by the way, if

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you're ever in Atlanta, sometimes people say, Hey, I'm coming

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta. What should I do? Uh, go to the

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Center for Popetry Arts and just look at their free exhibit,

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>which includes a full size Skexy. It's terrifying. Yeah, they

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>have We've talked about this before. They have emmett Utter.

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>For me, that was pretty pretty magnificent. It meant a

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>lot for Emma Utter to meet you too. They're doing

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Actually I saw it was just at the Museum of

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the Moving Image and Queens. Oh, yeah, I saw you

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>post something about that. Yeah, they have a Madman exhibit

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>right now, which is pretty neat, but it was they

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I was not there in time for the Jim Henson

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>when they're they're putting that in place, I think for

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:38.479
<v Speaker 1>later coming coming. What's good You didn't miss it yet? Well, yeah,

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll just go back. We went to the Yoko on

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>No exhibit at Momah. Awesome. She's something else, dude. She's

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>got a pretty cool mind. Yeah, she had She had

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>this one display and it was titled three Spoons and

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>it was just four spoons in a row. It wasn't three.

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.919
<v Speaker 1>I love that stuff, so I recommend that as well.

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a fan of her music, though, I actually

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>got turned onto her music in the listening room there

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Plastic Band. It's crazy. It's weird stuff, but I kind

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of like it. I mean, she's definitely one of the

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>most like original thinkers you know out there, and she's

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 1>been at it for a while, like a lot of

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the stuff went back to the sixties, like the early sixties. Yeah,

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and talk about weathering criticism and still just being like

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>screw you. Yeah, I'm Yoko. Oh No, I don't care

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.240
<v Speaker 1>what you say. Well she was exonerated to recently, remember

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Paul McCartney came out and said like, it was not

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yoko owner that broke up the Beatles and saying that

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>it just took him like fifty years to come out

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and say it. Yeah, she's like, would it kill you? Right?

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>He told me privately many times, but we'll press release,

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>tweet it alright. So we talked about compression and uh

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>tension being the two main forces. Uh, there are quite

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a few other forces, dozens even they can act on

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a bridge in a negative way, And the scariest one,

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.439
<v Speaker 1>for my money, is torsion. Um. If you've ever seen

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the video, it's a very famous video of the bridge,

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>what is it the Tacoma the Tacoma Narrows Bridge to

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 1>coma narrows bridge when it looks like a wet noodle

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>twisting in the wind, Yeah, it was. It's nuts. And

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>they have like footage of this whole thing just undergoing

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>this destruction that kept just going on and on and

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>on and finally the bridges comes down. Yeah. The craziest

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>part is when you're watching it, you just think, oh man,

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>look at that thing. It's nuts, and thank god, there's

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>no one on it, and then you see I continude

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>walking on it in a car. Yeah, and a guy

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.359
<v Speaker 1>ran there was a dog. There's one car in there

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and there's a dog trapped in the car, and some

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>guy ran and got the dogs. Yes, pretty great heroic stuff. Sure.

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Then later on I don't know if he's the same

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>guy and another guy or just two completely new guys.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 1>They're just walking along it. This is after a whole

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>section is falling into the river, but the section they're

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>walking still swaying way from the bridge. Step back from

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the bridge, man, So that's torsion at work. Yeah, and

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a big problem that designers a suspension bridges face

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>because you have a deck that's being held from being

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>held alof by cables. Right, it's not like fixed to

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 1>anything below it necessarily mean it's being suspended. So just

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>like on like a rope bridge or something like that,

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it sways very easily. Right. Yeah, those towers are strong,

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's not, you know, directly connected to those towers.

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>So if you have a swaying bridge in between them, right,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and the thing is swaying back and forth, but if

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 1>one side starts to sway over the other side and

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you have an opposing circular force,

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's torsion, and that can basically rip the bridge

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>in into which is sheer. Yeah. Well that's the other

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>awful thing that can happen. It can just snap, well

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>not snap, I guess, but just breaking to two parts. Yeah. Well,

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean snapping is the result of compression. Sharing would

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 1>be what it's called technically, where to the same span

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of bridge has the two opposing forces acting on it

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>at once, UM, in opposite directions, and it goes it

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>makes that terrible sound. Um. If you want to combat torsion, UM.

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Many ways to do this, You're you're probably gonna have

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>a deck trust going on to help out. Trust saves

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the day that trust saves the day you're gonna have.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna do wind tunnel tests if it's a modern

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>bridge beforehand, well you're gonna make a model, yeah, and

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>do tests and see like how does wind affect this

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>bridge and what do we need to do. But the

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>thing is with the um with the Tacoma Narrows Bridge

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in particular, they did tests. They had that thing rated

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>with standing winds up to a hundred and twenty was

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.479
<v Speaker 1>an hour. But the winds that day that brought it down.

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>We're only forty miles an hour, And for a long

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>time they were like, what happened, and somebody said, you

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 1>know what it was? It was mechanical residence. It was. Yeah,

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the deck trust was not sufficient for the span that

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>was part of it and the way that the wind

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>hit it and the angle calls the final thing that

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you just mentioned residents, which is um sort of it's

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a vibration basically that gets out of hands. So resonance,

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to me, I think deserves its own podcast too. It's awesome.

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Everything every especially anything that we build, from an airplane

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to a bridge, to watch it has a certain frequency

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>um where it will really pick up force, really absorbed force,

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>it will run through it. Right, So let's say that

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 1>your bridge um has a residence. Uh, that's like at

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>a frequency of ten. That's probably a total the ridiculous

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>number that I just said. But let's say it's ten, right,

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and then let's say that wind comes at it at

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>fort at just the right angle and it makes it

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 1>sway at a frequency of nine, Well, that bridge is

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be It's just gonna sit there and sway. Not

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>a big problem. If that wind hits it at just

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the right angle at just the right speed it's and

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it starts swaying at eleven, it's still not quite a problem.

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>But if it gets it just right and it starts

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it swaying at ten, all of a sudden, those sways

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.439
<v Speaker 1>are going to become more and more pronounced because all

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that energy is flowing through at its maximum potential and

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>at its freest flow, because it's hitting the bridge at

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 1>its natural residence, right. And that's what caused the Tacoma

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Narrows Bridge to come down, because once that thing starts going,

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no coming back from it because it's just happening.

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It gets worse and work exactly. And that's that's because

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>it hit it at just the right frequency. Yeah, they

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>like in it in the article, which I think is

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty uh down to earth, the snowball rolling downhill exactly.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>It just keeps getting worse and worse, and that you

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>can't stop it. So but isn't that bizarre that you

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a bridge has a natural residence and natural frequency. I

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think so, Like I would assume it would vibrate. Yeah,

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it did not occur to me at all. And I

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>was talking to Adam about this too, And I was like,

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.839
<v Speaker 1>so I saw that building designers, bridge designers, they will

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:28.959
<v Speaker 1>fine tune like a structure so that it resonates at

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a frequency that it's probably never gonna encounter from an

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>earthquake or from winds or whatever. I'm like, how do

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you do that? And apparently it comes down to the

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>building materials you use, the shapes you use to form

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the structure, the way you join those shapes together. And

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you can basically say, I'm giving this building a frequency

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of one point five, whereas I know all of the

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>wind in the area and the ground movement from an

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>earthquake is going to make it vibrated a free quency

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:04.399
<v Speaker 1>of seven, so it'll be fine. Yeah. And one way,

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>like you said, they can do that is by not

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>having like one like shortening the sections of the deck

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>plus a and that way the vibration. When you have

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>these overlapping plates and smaller sections, it's gonna create enough

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.280
<v Speaker 1>friction to disrupt that frequency. Right, it'll change the frequency

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that the bridge is moving at. But I mean, and

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>not just bridges, to you have to take this into

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>take into account like airplanes, right, you can't use engines

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 1>on airplanes that create vibrations at a frequency that's at

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the natural resonance of the airplane body. Most the airplane

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>body is gonna come apart just from turning the engines on.

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine seeing the airplane wings starting to flap

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like harder and harder, Right, But apparently the more common

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 1>thing when you have a disaster catastrophe from a residents

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a mechanical resonance problem. Um, it's like one bolt, it's

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like I can't take it anymore and stops, and then

0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that leads to a cascade of failures that aultimately has

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the bridge coming down. Interesting. I think that's fascinating. I

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>had no idea that you had to worry about frequencies

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and vibrations. Why all the bridges you've built of collapse?

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>They collapsed pretty easy. Well, if you've ever heard the

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>old they go down like a French boxer. That means

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't need um. But it was a glass Joe reference.

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Remember him from Tyson's punch out, Oh No counter He

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.800
<v Speaker 1>says he was French glass joe. You said, a glass

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 1>jaw and he went down just like a sack of potato,

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>so easy. Well, which was it a sack of potatoes?

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Or a French boxer. He was both. He went down

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 1>like a sack of French potatoes. Yes, French fries. My

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>bridges go down like a French boxer. But Glass Joe,

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the French boxer went down like a sack of potatoes. Ergo,

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>my bridges go down like a sack of potatoes. Um,

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.279
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever heard the Old Wives stay all that

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 1>like an army marching across the bridge and step can

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>cause enough vibration to take down that bridge. It's true

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that could happen. So if at the right frequency, right yeah,

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and wartime, that's they will break step. In other words,

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>their rhythm isn't all the same to avoid that scenario.

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.879
<v Speaker 1>And there was a bridge disaster I saw on that

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Time magazine slide show where that happened. Um, there were

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.720
<v Speaker 1>there were a pair of skywalk bridges inside the Higher

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Regency Kansas City Hotel, um in the lobby. They were

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>just like you know, raised bridges going through the lobby,

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and they collapsed and killed like a bunch of people

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>because people people marching dancing. They were dancing on the

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>on the skywalk. And you think, like up to today

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>or yesterday when I started researching this right, Like, I

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 1>just thought that's weight or pressure, something like if everybody's dancing,

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't It never occurred to me that the rhythm had

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>something to do. Yeah, i'd always heard that, Well, you're

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 1>far more advanced than I am a structural engineering, my friend.

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Not that. It's just always heard that, like, you know,

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>even a bunch of kittens walking across could cause that.

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>And the reason they said kittens, of course, is so

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it has nothing to do with weight, right, because kittens

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:23.920
<v Speaker 1>knowing nothing. And consequently, I think Lina Richie had to

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>change the name of that song because of the accident.

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:28.839
<v Speaker 1>I think originally it was what a feeling when you're

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>dancing on the skywalk and he had to change it

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to ceiling and everyone's like, that's weird dance on the ceiling,

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>but it rhymes, and he's like, yeah, but nobody ever

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.919
<v Speaker 1>died from dancing on this on the ceiling. I guess

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the final thing we should mention is that weather. Um,

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously we'll play a big impact. We already talked about wind,

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>but um, over the years, the materials they use in

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the design is gone in to take account things like

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>wind and uh what sun damage. I don't know what

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I think get the free stall cycles, huge salt salt exposure.

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>If it's going over like a salty body of water,

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Yeah, there's a lot of things that

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>are trying to bring a bridge down. Nature abhores a

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 1>bridge basically as much as a vacuum um. I've going

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 1>what's got. There's probably around six hundred and thirty thousand

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 1>bridges in the US alone, because there were six hundred

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and seventeen thousand, nine hundred and thirty five and a

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 1>two thousand two census, and they add them. They were

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 1>adding them at about a thousand a year, maybe nine

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred a year. That's just the US. The world's longest

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>bridge completed in two ten, the Danyang Coon Shawn Bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've seen pictures of that. It serves as

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<v Speaker 1>a railway bridge for the Beijing and Shanghai Railway. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and two mile long bridge that's nutty over water.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of cities with multiple water bridges.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you liked Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Portland, Budapest. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big fan. Atlanta. Doesn't mean we have bridges, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you have to go to the Chattahoochee River Lakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody goes to the Chattahoochie You know what. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>got one more thing I want to shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>PBS is build it big website, which is like beyond

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<v Speaker 1>nineties as far as websites go. But it was extremely

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<v Speaker 1>helpful and understanding the forces that work on bridges, different

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<v Speaker 1>types of bridges, different specific bridges. Great website and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to Adam. I guess you got some information from him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Adam. Was he into talking to you about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was he on the other end going oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>justsh shut up and watching Tim and Eric? He was

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<v Speaker 1>he was into talking about it. I figured he would

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<v Speaker 1>be yeah. Uh. And I actually have to shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to you mean too because I told her we were

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<v Speaker 1>building bridges, or well, we were talking about bridges. She

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a bunch of stuff on popsicle bridges. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently there's a a Indie Go go for the world's

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<v Speaker 1>strongest or Canada's strongest popsicle bridge. Yeah, they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>build that. Yes, and they start six screened already for

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<v Speaker 1>out of popsicle sticks. Good for them. So that's everybody

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<v Speaker 1>getting shouted out to all over the place in this one. Huh,

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that's nice stuff. Bam. If you want to know more

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<v Speaker 1>about bridges, you can type that word into the search

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<v Speaker 1>part how stuff works dot com. And since I said

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<v Speaker 1>search parts, time for listener mayl. I'm gonna call this.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of street gang responses. Will read

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<v Speaker 1>over the next couple of shows. Um, here's one. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to write in about your street gangs episode as

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting pertains to my job. Short version is

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<v Speaker 1>that I worked for a hospital based program and we

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<v Speaker 1>see every gunshot wound victim and stab wound victim who

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<v Speaker 1>comes through, which is about four year UM, and about

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent of those are gang involved. How you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have mentioned how you found the number of gangs to

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to believe, but I think you may you

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the street gangs is one entity that has strict

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<v Speaker 1>borders and lots of people. And my experience, larger gangs

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<v Speaker 1>will sometimes incorporate smaller gangs, and sometimes larger gangs will

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<v Speaker 1>split off into many many smaller groups. Uh. People go

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of gangs and are sometimes affiliated with

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<v Speaker 1>more than one. Currently, we have about at least seventy

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<v Speaker 1>in our city alone, and a substantial amount of those

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 1>have less than twenty members, so like many gangs, not

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<v Speaker 1>super gangs, not super gangs. According to this paper on

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<v Speaker 1>street gangs in Boston, eight percent of the gangs in

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<v Speaker 1>the city have less than ten members and have ten

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen members. So while the numbers you gave seem

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<v Speaker 1>shockingly high, they also seem to be in step with

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<v Speaker 1>the current climate. And that is from Arianna. And what

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<v Speaker 1>city did she say? You know, I don't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she said. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>was Boston or if she just referenced Boston. Well, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, Ariana. We appreciate that email. And yeah, keep

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<v Speaker 1>them coming. We wanted them more about gangs. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had the impression the whole time that like one or another,

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