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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are always running from

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Speaker 1: the law. I am Craig Rosenthal here for Man Versus

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Speaker 1: Model week eight, where we do our picks every week.

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Speaker 1: We're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, me and

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Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland.

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Speaker 2: You need to tell everyone, friend, Okay, I will because

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Speaker 2: I'm a little and it's really about you.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little frazzled. Right now.

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Speaker 1: My family is in the building and they're gonna watch

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Speaker 1: us tape game debut and we're going to the Rams game.

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Speaker 3: We're taping this ahead of time. On Thursday, they get

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Speaker 3: score predictions for the game.

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Speaker 1: We are going to have a special guest later on

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Speaker 1: in the show. We've got an extra microphone set up

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Speaker 1: for the end of the show. But yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: trying to come into the building through security and we

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Speaker 1: actually put their names in. Usually we just kind of

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Speaker 1: come in with you know, that's what supposed to do,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but you know, this time we tried to

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Speaker 1: do it and put everyone's name and when we got there,

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Speaker 1: we found out that miners are not allowed into the

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Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, you know, my name's on the

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Speaker 1: show now NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 3: Like I was like, Oh, they're just going to come

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Speaker 3: watch watch doing the show. We're going to the game after. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then they brought HR down. HR came down, A second

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Speaker 1: level of people came down, and they again got the

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Speaker 1: no did you respond with football is family? I just

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Speaker 1: said okay, thank you, and then we left, and then

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Speaker 1: we walked up three flights of stairs and then we went.

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Speaker 1: We went in the same that we always go in,

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Speaker 1: which is just the front door essentially.

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Speaker 3: And we've snuck.

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Speaker 1: And yes, if my family gets taken away and put

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Speaker 1: in jail during this show, I will miss them. That's

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Speaker 1: why Walker was saying. As we were walking, I was like,

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Speaker 1: the and they put us in jail. I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, Okay, this is ours our show

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Speaker 1: where we go through and make three picks each and

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Speaker 1: every week against the spread. Sometimes I make a few extra.

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Speaker 1: Every time I make a few extra. At the end,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with good news. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: had three straight winning weeks, you are over five hundred.

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Speaker 1: You're ahead of me for the season, but only by

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Speaker 1: a game. I've had two straight winning weeks, so either

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Speaker 1: way we are picking winners, and yes, first you go first,

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Speaker 1: I'll go Packers minus three and a half.

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Speaker 3: Yep, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole thing that's happening each and every week

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Speaker 1: where a team plays the Patriots, and then after they

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Speaker 1: play the Patriots, everyone thinks they're good because the Patriots

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Speaker 1: are so bad. We saw the Jets. I was foolish

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Speaker 1: moments of the season. The Jets are a real team now. No, no,

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Speaker 1: think about other teams that the Patriots have played after

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Speaker 1: that matchup. Basically, every time you play the Patriots, you

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Speaker 1: think you've got to go in San Francisco, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: they finally got to go in their role and they

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Speaker 1: every team is going to look good against the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins, they beat the Patriots, so maybe they got

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Speaker 1: the losing after that. This is the number thirty two

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Speaker 1: defense in the NFL according to DVA. That's in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I am not falling for that. They had a slightly

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Speaker 1: That's all I really need to know is that this

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur is just putting up pictures of these Jaguars

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Speaker 1: I going to pick on next? Like I don't even

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Speaker 1: care Ifoye a. Lukan is back for this game? Which

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Speaker 1: Jeff dot Hefley, the defensive coordinator for the Packers, I think,

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Speaker 1: so that is going against an average Jaguars offense, but

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Speaker 3: Also, just a very healthy team.

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Speaker 1: One of the few teams you know, knock on wood,

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Speaker 1: they can look on the injury report, almost no one

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Speaker 3: Let's go Packers minus three and five. Okay, feel great?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Your first pick this will be r this is my

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Speaker 2: Let's just go with Pittsburgh minus six and a half

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Speaker 2: Is not that I don't like the Giants, I just

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Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence, there are the purposes that is not liking them.

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Speaker 2: Well. I like the franchise, I like the ownership. They

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Speaker 2: But and Dexter Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Is None of that matters for this spread though, So

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Speaker 2: Bread up, Okay, I'm just saying that I think that Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: especially with Russell Wilson, now that we saw the trajectory

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Speaker 2: week against the Jets, things just got better and better.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a situation where Pittsburgh by a

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Speaker 2: right now it's at thirty six and a half, I

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Speaker 2: think it'll be a higher scoring game than that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that too, because Daniel Jones really miss

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Speaker 1: it's just hard to see them scoring enough points.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go AFC North here. Okay, Bengals minus two

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Speaker 1: and a half. Now, I know you disagree with this.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling that's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles are rickety. Okay, they're not as good as

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Speaker 1: We'll see if those defensive improvements the Eagles have had

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Speaker 2: These he's the only one to ever say that. Here's

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Speaker 2: so that's a really big uptick in pressure. Now, is

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Speaker 2: Bengals allow the second lowest pressure rate on their quarterback. However,

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of all or nothing when it comes

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Speaker 2: to if the pressure works and results in a sack

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Speaker 2: Like this is the as you know, whatever we've seen

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Speaker 2: for years. There's these games where it's they rarely play

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Speaker 1: You know what, he has a hard defense to learn,

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Speaker 1: and we've seen it over time that takes a little

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Speaker 3: They have improvements.

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Speaker 1: It's really not so much about the defense, Yep, it's

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Speaker 1: about the Eagles offense. I just watched Jalen Hurts and

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Speaker 1: he's just not comfortable right now. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: left tackle is a big deal against Trey Hendrickson. Sam

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Speaker 1: not one where I think it's crazy. It's just if

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Speaker 1: ignored it. It's more, I do not think these two

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Speaker 3: And by the way, how dare you.

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Speaker 1: Besmirched the name of Adam Sandler and his character in

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not besmirching it.

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Speaker 3: And it's just I disagree. You have to do.

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Speaker 2: You have to do it with more like goose. So yeah, exactly, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're up. I'm up. Okay Houston and six points soo

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Speaker 2: Houston by a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 2: I think God against Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: I think my son Walker, who's not really paying attention

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Speaker 3: Maybe he is paying attention.

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Speaker 1: I will agree with that because he is a big

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Speaker 1: Texans fan as well. Why do you like the Texans

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Speaker 1: this week? Over Jacksonville? I mean over Indianapolis?

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Speaker 3: They won?

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Speaker 1: That game was close in Week one Texan's Colts Division matchup.

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Speaker 1: They've been pretty close over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: splitting games mostly.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Why do you like the Texans?

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Speaker 2: I think this is like the what happens to good

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks trajectory meeting when you're really good and you don't

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Speaker 2: even necessarily need be as good as offensive rookie of

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Speaker 2: ways to stop you. Remember when everyone was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: good news, here's here's the thing. We're never giving single

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Speaker 2: high coverage to Patrick Mahomes. Well now they're doing that

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Speaker 2: They're figuring out ways to specifically adapt to his unique

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Speaker 1: The family is now apparently being escorted out of the building.

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Speaker 1: We were gonna have Walker come on the show, and

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Speaker 1: they're getting booted. I'll see you guys in in fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's good for the show. It's a

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Speaker 1: good story.

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Speaker 2: Bye Walker.

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Speaker 3: Unreal, he's so cute and they're gonna have so much time.

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Speaker 2: Oh so they're going to the game. Yeah, can't you

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Speaker 2: a line into him? Isn't here our landlord? Like?

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Speaker 3: They don't have any lines into anyone. This is sad.

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Speaker 1: and you really tried though, I'm I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they maybe they were like popping up on the

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Speaker 1: on the like cameras. That's kind of exciting to think about.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sad. Walker was going to take the Texans too.

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Speaker 1: He's going to come in and make a pick. Makes

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Speaker 1: me feel better, you like it not allowed? My final

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Speaker 1: I love that we're just doing the show and let's

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Speaker 1: two and a half. Actually it's going to be Denver

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Speaker 1: minus nine. I changed my mind at the last minute.

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Speaker 1: I like that, Denver minus nine. Here's how many games

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Speaker 1: the Panthers have lost by nine points or less this season.

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Speaker 3: Zero, There's not one. Their six losses are by the

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Speaker 3: thirty seven, twenty three, ten, twenty six, thirty seven, eighteen

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Speaker 3: thirty three. That's crazy. I see thy.

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Speaker 2: Locker combination growing up, like thirty seven, ten thirty three,

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Speaker 2: thing with with Bryce Young, I don't know. It just

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Speaker 3: Right, they didn't want him to start.

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Speaker 2: No, they didn't want to. Like I think any Dalton's better.

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Speaker 1: You know, some bad games the last couple of games, relatively,

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Speaker 1: But the reason why he was starting was because he

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Speaker 2: He was still Denver defense is not messing around either.

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Speaker 3: It is so good.

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Speaker 1: They have a little extra rest because they're coming off

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Speaker 2: Are ten yes, coming fly back.

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Speaker 3: He's coming back. Baron Browning came back last week.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Browning on his thigh pads as the Grim Reaper

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Speaker 2: because he's coming after quarterback souls Fair Halloween beamed. I

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Speaker 3: I still am. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they were just taking away and I

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Speaker 1: can't believe we're still doing this podcast. Let's let's wrap

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Speaker 1: up with your third pick here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last, but not least. You know what, I think

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Speaker 2: this one's weird because it's a seven. But the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I think the Jets unfortunately beat your Patriots by Alisa touchdown,

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Speaker 2: and we've seen Aaron Rodgers. You the world's biggest words

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Speaker 2: this year. I don't even like. I was reading that

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Speaker 2: to Deumont? Sure? What do you what it means? What

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Speaker 1: It means like the end of something or just like

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Speaker 1: a fitting conclusion to something I don't know, like the

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, I didn't mean too. I thought you knew.

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Speaker 3: I mean most of the listeners might not know that

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Speaker 2: Them of this place.

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Speaker 3: I asked, don't you think the Patriots maybe maybe they'll

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Speaker 2: Is he going to play No? That would be better.

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Speaker 3: They've been so bad.

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Speaker 1: I initially had them in my little box of extra

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Speaker 1: do the Jets deserve to be a seven point favorite

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Speaker 1: over anyone? I know, they destroyed the Patriots the first

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Speaker 1: Like the second game would be close when you played

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Speaker 2: Except for the it's not really a like they're not

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Speaker 2: as soft as Gerrod Mayo is saying, like they're playing

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Speaker 3: Of before, especially on the offective line.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's to be happy about with Drake may

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Speaker 2: it's it's not were there, you know in other teams

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine the when I get from my wife

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Speaker 3: Emica about this entire thing.

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Speaker 1: I blew it. I'm in big I'm in big trouble.

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Speaker 1: So uh, that's my last sorry with the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: You want me to go to But if I go distract,

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Speaker 2: should I go? No?

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Speaker 3: That that part is over. We blew it and I

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they found us here hiding out

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Speaker 3: I'll find out soon.

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Speaker 2: Did you pick your third one? Just go quick, you

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Speaker 2: don't even have it was.

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Speaker 1: The Denver so to review. I took the Packers minus

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Speaker 1: I have two straight winning weeks. And your picks were

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Speaker 1: And then what was the first pick.

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Speaker 2: Was me and Walker.

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Speaker 3: I liked that a lot. That's Walk and I like

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Speaker 3: that a lot. My little extra picks, by the way,

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Speaker 1: We're at twelve and seven for the season. These are

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Speaker 3: I like the Bucks as a home underdog this week.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be tough again a division

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Speaker 3: I just don't think they're a good team.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the Saints getting seven points in

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Speaker 1: six healthy starters coming back this week. Just don't know

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Speaker 1: if the Chargers are worth the way they play football.

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Speaker 1: Seven points is a lot. And then yeah, I agreed

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like Washing either way, and if Jane Daniels was playing,

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Speaker 2: it is a great pick.

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Speaker 3: Either way, we like it.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling no, I'm sorry, I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 2: I like, go fix the family. I will try to

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Speaker 2: get the family back to the family first.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Sunday with our recap show.

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Speaker 1: That's it for the week. Love everyone, tune in, go

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Speaker 1: fun recap show on Sunday night. No buyes this week.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, when the Rosenthal family is on the loose,

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