1 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Well, Marv was just telling me that whenever everything moves 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: into aries, it's going to be like jet engines out 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: of people's butts. Is that she said? 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hell of a metaphorin. 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: It's something quite the way to start a podcast. Hey guys, 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: how are you. 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Well? 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Marv, we'll get into the aries piece of it, 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure throughout the podcast, but we were here to 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: bring you guys the April astrology. I can't even remember 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: what month it is. I feel like I'm having this 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: weird sensation where some months are moving really fast and 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: some are moving so slow that I feel like I've 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: been in them for six months. Is that because of 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: the astrology? 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's how you're interpreting the energy, Yeah, for sure. 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: And with the planetary lineup that started at the full moon, 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean that's got a lot to do with a 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: lot of things right now. 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: Okay, well you just get into that. 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: Then yeah, you figure you know, Pisces, that is a 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: very very difficult sign to kind of collect yourself because 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: it's not a well grounded sign. It's a very intuitive sign, 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: and it's kind of like you just meld into things 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: instead of being yourself. 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, you're telling me as if I don't know, I 27 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: get that. 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: Everybody it doesn't have a Pisces moon. Yeah, and so 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: I think that that is a lot of it. And then, 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: of course, I mean, you know, with the new moon 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: in Pisces, we were trying to that lineup started out 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: with relationships and Capricorn, so we were all trying to 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: find our balance within relationships in some way, shape or form. 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: And of course, you know, we talked about that at 35 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: the end of the last podcast. It's like Pisce's is 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: very visionary and very empathetic and very empathic, and so 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: you kind of lose yourself in that stuff. You lose 38 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: your own sense of boundaries, your own sense of self. 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: And then when Jupiter squared Venus in that new moon, 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Venus was in Taurus and that's pretty stuck. So we 41 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: all were feeling a certain stuckness in relationships, and Jupiter 42 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: is always trying to expand, and so there was always 43 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: some kind of a little bit of a push pull 44 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: around the emotions that the Pisce's new moon was bringing about, 45 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: and so we were looking more of a soul kind 46 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: of relationship instead of a people kind of relationship, and 47 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: that's kind of where we are we move into this 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: full moon, is now really trying to get ourselves figured out. 49 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: You know, Libra is in the polar opposite of Airres, right, 50 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: so you know Airres is very self oriented. Libra is 51 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 2: kind of lost in the relationship. But you know, it's 52 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: peace at any price kind of thing. So in other words, 53 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: with Libra, you can't get a straight answer in a 54 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: lot of cases in relationships because that piece at any 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: price goes way deeper than just what it sounds like. 56 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: If I have to lie to keep peace, well then 57 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: I'll lie. If I have to give away a piece 58 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: of me or are my boundaries, then that's what I'll do. 59 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: And so you have to understand the significance of this 60 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: full moon by understanding where your personal imbalances are in 61 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: your relationship. Where's the imbalance? As I'm speaking here, I'm 62 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: thinking where's the imbalance and what your soul is versus 63 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: what your relationships are and what they're showing you. I mean, 64 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: how can relationships show you the honesty of what they're 65 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: trying to show you when you're not being honest about 66 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: who you are. So that's the problem with suppression is 67 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm only going to show you the good sides of me. 68 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to show you all my warts. 69 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting because as I'm listening to you talk, because 70 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: both of those descriptions of pieces and Libra, and I 71 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: have a lot of Pisces. I have Pisce's moon, and 72 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: I have a Libra stellium, So I identify with both 73 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: of these things that you're saying. But I do feel 74 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: like it can be misconstrued a little bit into this 75 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: like and I obviously there's light and shadow of every sign, right, 76 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: so you know there's good and bads, and it can 77 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: be used in a good way. But it also, like 78 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: with the Pisce's energy talking about well, a Pisces can 79 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: mold and become whoever, and a Libra can kind of 80 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: do that too. But it's not necessarily just based on 81 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: my personal experience, it's not because we're trying to be 82 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: something other than what we are. I literally will walk 83 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: in a room and sense everyone's energy to the point 84 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: where like this will sound weird to some people, but 85 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what my feeling is or what your 86 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: feeling is, Like I've had to learn how to do 87 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: that as I've gotten older, But when I was younger, 88 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: I just thought a feeling that I felt was mine, 89 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: and it's not for people with a strong piss's placement, 90 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then with Theebra, it's 91 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: very it's a similar and a similar way. Keeping the 92 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: peace is a huge part of what would make a 93 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: libra's nervous system feel good, right, but it's not in 94 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: this like cruel way. A lot of times are oftentimes 95 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: that I see libras using that. It truly is like 96 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: they care they where in areas is always like well 97 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: what do I want? Like you were saying, what do 98 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I want? A Libra is like, well, what's good for everybody? 99 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: How do we find like almost to the place of 100 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: sacrificing what's good for them to make it better for 101 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: the group or for the other person. Is that how 102 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: you see it? 103 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: Not necessarily You got to remember libra is an action 104 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: oriented son. Okay, so they know what they want, but 105 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: they want to get compromise to In other words, this 106 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: is a neck turning the head, I want you to 107 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: agree with me kind of energy. And if I come around, 108 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, if I do an in run around of 109 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: what I really do want, because this is cardinal Cardinal 110 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: is action oriented. So people misconstrued Libra is being all 111 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: peace love dove. Libra is anything but peace love dove. 112 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: They got a very very strong ego. 113 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, they. 114 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: Will manipulate the living shit out of you to get 115 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: what they want, whatever it takes, and they're going to 116 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: do it in such a peaceful way you don't even 117 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: realize you're being manipulated. Yes, so yeah, no, you can't 118 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: get caught up in that. And that's what this Libra 119 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: full moon is is. I mean, you know, it's the 120 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: full moon, so it's emotional and we're all emotionally feeling 121 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: this imbalance going on between what is really what I 122 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: really do want versus what am I hiding that I want? 123 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: And so this full moon I emphasize, I tell size 124 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: that imbalances can't hide anymore. Yeah, so this full moon 125 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: is really going to bring out what you think you've 126 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: been hiding. You're not going to be able to keep 127 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: hiding because you're emotionally going to be triggered. And that 128 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: trigger is are you overgiving or under receiving? Are you 129 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: in harmony with what is real? Or are you just performing? 130 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: You see, now you're seeing the starting to see a 131 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: real libra balance. 132 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: But I think I'm still a little confused because like 133 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: where I get caught up overgiving. That's a big one 134 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: for me. So to me, it's like not about. 135 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: I guess why would you overgive? 136 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't mean to. I catch myself in it all 137 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: the time. 138 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: You don't need to overgive. When you're overgiving, you're overgiving 139 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: because you're trying to compensate for what you really don't 140 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: want to give. 141 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Tell me more because I'm not getting it. 142 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, you're compromised too much right versus not enough? I mean, 143 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: think about that you're overgiving or under receiving. Well, if 144 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: you're under receiving, you're going to how are you going 145 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: to respond? I'm not getting what I want. I'm overgiving 146 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: because I'm trying to. I'm suppressing what I really truly want. 147 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: Okay, let me I need to do tangibles because what 148 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: you're saying isn't making sense to me. But let me 149 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: see if I'm getting this right. In relationships in my past, 150 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: I would overgive because I wanted the relationship to survive, 151 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: so I would hold it up, like you know, all 152 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: doing my part, doing their part, doing whatever to make 153 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: the relationship keep working or whatever, instead of just going, hey, 154 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: wait a second, if it requires that of me, and 155 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: I can't just show up for my parts and you know, 156 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: ask for the things that I need or whatever. If 157 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: it's not like an equally reciprocal relationship, why would I 158 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: want this in my life anyway? And like because for 159 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: me it was a way to avoid the grief of 160 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: losing the relationship. 161 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: Well that's exactly Libra, but the way so there's an 162 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: ulterium motive. 163 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: To keep the relationship. 164 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's my point. So in other words, you're 165 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: trying to give with the relationship what you really don't feel. 166 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: It's an emotional response so you can be in control 167 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: of the survival of the relationship, right instead of it 168 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: being honestly participating in the relationship of how you feel 169 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: about something. 170 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean. 171 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: Overcompromise is certainly libra, And why are you overcompromising? So 172 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: in other words, you're giving a part of giving a 173 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: piece of you away. And I mean, just look down 174 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: on what I wrote. Illusions of everything is fine is 175 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: going to dissolve because you're emotionally going to be upset 176 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: because you can't be who you truly really are. Yeah, yeah, 177 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: And so the imbalance in relationships are you choosing peace 178 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: over truth? 179 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Right, right, That's a tricky one that I think a 180 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of people. I don't know if the listeners will 181 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: relate to this, but I'm gonna tell this story. But 182 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: I feel like, for me, with the example that I 183 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: just gave, I thought that was a positive thing, like 184 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: convince yourself that codependency is not dysfunctional, right, And so 185 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: I thought that that was like so kind or like 186 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: so nice and like, oh my god, whatever, But it 187 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: is for the purpose of you trying to avoid your 188 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: own feelings of pain, you know, And instead of accepting, hey, 189 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: this isn't a place where my truth is welcome, or 190 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: that there's space for me to give honest feedback, or 191 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: that truth in general can't be discussed, you know, like 192 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: if you have those feelings, the bigger picture is that 193 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: this probably isn't a scenario that she'll ever thrive in. 194 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: But instead of realizing that, I used to like jump 195 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: through all the hoops or try to like contort myself 196 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: into fitting into these positions to make sure I maintain 197 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: the relationship and could avoid the pain of the loss 198 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: of that relationship, which I don't think we always clock 199 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: until it like crumbles you to the point of Okay, 200 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: I can't function anymore, and like it's because you're not 201 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: living an honest life, like you're saying. 202 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Okay, you're trying to to what does 203 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: a fair exchange actually look like? I mean, you see, 204 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: this is what I call repression. Suppression. Repression is shoving 205 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: it down. Yeah, suppression is hiding it behind your back, 206 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: so you're not showing who you authentically are because you 207 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: might interpret it as what I don't want you to 208 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: interpret it as. Yeah, so I'm not going to show 209 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: you all my warts. I'm just going to show you 210 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: what I want you to see so you'll still love 211 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: me in the morning. Right, So what needs to end 212 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: shift or deepen? You see? And the with the emotional 213 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: emotions of the full moon so strong, that's the question 214 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: you're asking. How am I getting gratification for being me 215 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: in the relationship. 216 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: It's really our push to be more authentic. That's been 217 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: a theme of the last couple months that you've brought up. 218 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: It's just this push to authenticity. 219 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, and we all fight for that. Well, 220 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean that's the shadow. The shadow is the is 221 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: your relationship, and so it's showing you what you're trying 222 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: to hide or suppress. And truth is that chart is 223 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: your chart. You're the seventh House. It isn't somebody else, 224 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: it's you. And so when you look at it like that, 225 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when we look at it as 226 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: an astrology, say, oh, you're seventh the house. Is this 227 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: the house of marriage? Well that's you. That's your house 228 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: of marriage. That ain't somebody else. 229 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Right are you saying, because whatever happens in those relationships 230 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: is just mirroring back to you. 231 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes, that crisply, that succinctly. And so that's 232 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: what we're looking at because we're so with the full moon, 233 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: you're so emotionally sensitive, right, and so then when we 234 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: look at the energy of this full mod this full 235 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: mood is opposed by Saturn. 236 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: When you start to laugh about what's happening astrologically, it's 237 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: a little startling when you're like whoa, Like shit, we're 238 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,479 Speaker 1: about to be in for it. 239 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you are actually absolutely going to feel 240 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: the tension, the confrontation and the alignment that you really 241 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: are having with another person that is not going to 242 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: feel very good and it's going to cause some confrontation. 243 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: And so how do you act with integrity? How do 244 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: you act with integrity and your authentic self? How do 245 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: you develop that self authority within a relationship that self authenticity? 246 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: This really really is a well, it's a huge problem 247 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: when people come to me for relationships or when people 248 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: just have relationship dynamics that are playing out. That's part 249 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: of it. I mean, these things don't have to ruin 250 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: the relationship. They have to show you where the imbalances 251 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: that you're projecting that's being objectified back to you. So 252 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: you can apologize, you can make an adjustment, all kinds 253 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: of things. You can honor the adjustment being made by 254 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: the other person instead of going, oh, you don't love 255 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: me no more. 256 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not very good. I've been posting about this 257 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: a little bit on social media. But we're not very 258 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: good at understanding what like repair is in our society. Yet. 259 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't think, like, I don't know that we know 260 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: how to do what you just said, where it's it's okay, 261 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: here's my request, and then the person honors it. They're 262 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: not going to do it perfectly right away or anything 263 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 1: like that, but if they're working on it, making an 264 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: action step to that thing, and then you're doing the same. 265 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Like that is how you make repair in relationship. And 266 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: it means like the relationship doesn't always have to end 267 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: or it's not like, oh I'm settling in this situation. 268 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: Like we're so quick to just want to walk away 269 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: from things without trying. These kind of things were repair 270 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: and instead we just want to like end it. Every 271 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: man's fucked up relationships suck. You know, social media is 272 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: ruining the world, like all these things we just complain 273 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: about versus actually looking at Okay, what would other options 274 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: be here? And how do we actually learn how to 275 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: communicate and work with each other instead. That's like really 276 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: been coming into the forefront of my life recently. 277 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean I understand. I mean, you know this Saturn 278 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: is going to bring your fear of asserting yourself to 279 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: frustration or block action, pressure to grow up quickly. Saturn 280 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 2: is saying where is the weak leak and the relationship 281 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: that you're creating, And so you've got to look at 282 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: Saturn as being accountable for who you are becoming. A 283 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: relationship is to grow by. A relationship is to be 284 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: mirror you. A relationship is to help you understand the 285 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: introspection of who you are. That's what it is. On 286 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: a Native American medicine wheels, relationship is about introspection so 287 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: that you can have that. You can then you can 288 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: discover your strength to be able to be assertive, your 289 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: strength to not be frustrated with what you wish somebody 290 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: else would be or. 291 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: Do Yeah, we quickly other. I mean it's so easy 292 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: to do right because it feels so real, and often 293 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: it is real like that the other is doing something. 294 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: But it's really about the only thing you can change 295 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: is what is coming up for you. But that's a 296 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: hard one. That is a hard one. It's a lesson, 297 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: like over and over you have to practice. I think. 298 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. And so when you look at the full moon, 299 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: it is also squared by Jupiter, which Jupiter expands everything right, 300 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: and so it's an emotional amplifying and activating this full 301 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: moon so that your emotions are going to be up 302 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: on top of your left and right shoulder and you're 303 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: going to be seen. Go ahead, knock it off, knock 304 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: it off, go ahead, I dare you. So you are really, 305 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: really really going to be feeling and because of this 306 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: Libra factor. It's activating a lot of childhood wounds, it's 307 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: activating your attachment styles, your family conditioning. That's a lot 308 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: of problems with inside of people's dynamics. 309 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's the biggest. I mean, I think 310 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: it's where everything starts. 311 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now we're going to add a Pluto 312 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: squares to the venus. So now you're going to be 313 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: trying to control and manipulate versus. I'm going to take 314 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: this in to transform my own shortcomings within a relationship. 315 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: I'll give you an example of that that I've just 316 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: experienced myself. My wife and I are going through cleaning 317 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: up my mother's house after she passed, and it's just 318 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: it's very foul, very dehumanizing, with my sister living there 319 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: and all of that. And my wife just got beside 320 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: herself in dealing with the energy of the nastiness of 321 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: it all. And I was running around, you know, I've 322 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: got a thousand things to do and I'm just working 323 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: my butt off and all of that. And with my 324 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: airy's moon, I guess I was barking a little. 325 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: Bit apricorn and for you, and I mean, you know. 326 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: She said, what you know, you started hollering at me 327 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: so much. I just start I was just outside of myself. 328 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: I was going through all this nastiness and hatefulness, and 329 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: then you're hollering at me, and I just couldn't handle 330 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: it anymore. And so you know, I said, you know, 331 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to holler at you 332 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: like that, and you know I got you know, I 333 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: can't hear very well and sometimes I don't know how 334 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: loud I'm being, and so it's still required an apology 335 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: of being, you know, so wrapped up into what I 336 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: was doing that I was not being sensitive enough to 337 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: what she was going through. Now that is an that 338 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: ain't a metaphor. That is exactly what I experienced in 339 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: my life. 340 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it. 341 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: Took us a couple of days to work that out, 342 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: but of course we because there's too much love there 343 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: not to work it out. 344 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: Well, marm, I'm getting all teary over here. It's like, 345 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: I love that story because that is real life, right like, 346 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: And I think what you just explained even is the 347 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: perfect example of a shadow part of an energy moving 348 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: into like the evolved version like Ari's energy can be 349 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: abrupt and brash and like hardcore. But you caught or 350 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: she she called you out in it. I was gonna 351 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: say you caught yourself in it, but then you took 352 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: accountability and ownership and apologized, which is all we can do, right, 353 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: and then you change the behavior. It's like, to me, 354 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: that is a beautiful example of what we're supposed to 355 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: be doing in this life, and we often miss it 356 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: because we don't want to just go, oh, I'm doing 357 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: that thing again or look at ourselves in any sort 358 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: of negative way. And it's like, you know, Sharon loves you. 359 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: She just had some needs in that moment that weren't 360 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: being met and she needed to be heard, and you 361 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: did it. 362 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: That's a lot of the problem is that we're not 363 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: sensitive to the hurts of other of us, right, of 364 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: the people we love, are we right? No? 365 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: Totally? 366 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay? 367 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Or we see the world through our lens and no 368 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: one else's, you know, like not considering they have completely 369 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: different life experiences and wiring and yeah. 370 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: I mean that's selfishness. Yeah right, So I mean, you know, 371 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: I mean, what wasn't no big deal a bit for 372 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: me to understand that I was a jerk from her perspective. Yeah, 373 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: But look, I mean, I love her enough to say, 374 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: you know what, I realized the way you look at 375 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: it and your lens and the way you see it 376 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: is requires me to understand by just saying, you know what, 377 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: I apologize, I'm sorry. I realized that I was being 378 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: like that. And most of the time that's all it takes. 379 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: Sure to be recognized my feeling. Yes, if you recognize 380 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: how I feel, yes, you can forgive me. 381 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's true for all of us. 382 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: If we can recognize the other person and then see 383 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: ourselves too, it changes everything. It really does, and it's 384 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: it's actually really simple when you start doing it, but 385 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: it's it almost like takes more effort to fight it 386 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: than to do it. But we do fight it for 387 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: so long until we finally got we can do it 388 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: this other way. 389 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: Because you think if you apologize your it causes you insecurity. 390 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: It caused right to be less than right. 391 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I think that's strongest thing you can. 392 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 2: Do, the absolute opposite. 393 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Agreed, totally agreed, It. 394 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: Does the absolute opposite. And see, that's what Pluto is 395 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: going to be doing and telling us this month is 396 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: what you love, value and hold on to is being 397 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: transformed whether you're ready or for it or not. Yeah, 398 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 2: And so Tarus is saying, I want to hold on 399 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: to what feels safe. Huh. And Pluto is saying, well, 400 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: you've outgrown this, and that's what we're all going to 401 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: be going through in this full moon. And it causes 402 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: a lot of inner conflict, causes a lot of relationship tension, 403 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: causes a lot of resistance to what needs to change. 404 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: And so if it's not evolving, it's dissolving. I thought 405 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: that was a that's a big damn statement. If you're 406 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: not evolving in relationships, it's dissolving. 407 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: If you're not growing or dying, same thing. 408 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: So this full moon is a big, big deal about 409 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: dealing with whatever relationship comes up with. I don't care 410 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: if it's at work, I don't care if it's friend, 411 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's it's your wife, your girlfriend, 412 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: I don't care who it is. All relationships are going 413 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: to somehow pose a option for you to come more 414 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 2: in alignment with your with your center and your honesty 415 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: and who you truly are. And so that's what you 416 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: know when when you look at the Saturn Neptune in 417 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: areas conjuncts to Mars and Pisces. That's huge. 418 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: Can you give us that in real talk? 419 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: Well, the real talk is is Neptune is nebulous, Neptune 420 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: is a fog, Saturn is real, Saturn is grounded, and 421 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: Mars and Pisces is all up in the air trying 422 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: to deal in the fog, in the fog instead of 423 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: being real. So we're none of us or seeing the 424 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: reality outside of one moment to the next moment to 425 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: the next moment, and it's causing causing a lot of 426 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: hesitation and uncertainty, causing a lot of motivation of withdrawal. 427 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 2: She got mad at me, I got mad at her 428 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: getting mad at me, So it took two days to 429 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: get it straightened out. So you can act in alignment 430 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 2: with your higher self without confusion or escape, that's a 431 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: big question mark. Can you act in alignment with your 432 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: authentic self without being confused or escaping from an issue 433 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: or problem. You have to trust your intuition while not 434 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: seeing truth and a clear path. And that's so much 435 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: of what's going on right now and has been going 436 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: on for several months with Neptune and Saturn ben in Pisces. 437 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: Now it's gone into airrees but your action principle of 438 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: Mars is still in Pisces. You don't know where the 439 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: hell you're going. You're wandering around and now it's a wonderland, 440 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: So you best be in your intuitive self and your 441 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: authentic self and trying to deal with each moment in 442 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: the moment as it comes. 443 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a really good description of like 444 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: our world on a like if we're looking at the 445 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: macro right now, I've heard a lot of people saying 446 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: like it just could because it feels so volatile, because 447 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: there are wars happening now. I think it is a 448 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: confusing time where we cannot see where this future is 449 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: leading us necessarily, you know, we're just sort of like, 450 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: like I know, all I can do is just focus 451 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: on the day, like what is today. Be in the day, 452 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Be in the present, because the future seems very daunting 453 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: because I don't know, like there doesn't feel like what 454 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: it used to feel like in the world where you 455 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: could predict, you know, okay, well, or you could just 456 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: make plans for next year because it was pretty similar 457 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: to the year before and the year before that, and 458 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: like that is not how the world has been the 459 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: last six years. But it doesn't seem like it's going 460 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: to be that way moving forward quite yet either. And 461 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: so I think we are very much in this like 462 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: confusing time and that makes sense to me. Where we're 463 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: in the fog, and all you can do is be 464 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: like where am I today right now in this moment? 465 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: Yep. Perfect, And that's exactly what we've been going through. 466 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: We've been talking about this for several months now. Yeah, 467 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: that you do not see reality, Yeah, that's it. You 468 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: do not know all of what's going on. Yeah, So 469 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: in that case, you have to move inside and trust yourself, well, 470 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: trust your intuition, listen to you internal voice. And that's 471 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: by nature that's driving us inward instead of looking at 472 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: all the feedback coming from the outside. And I think 473 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: that that's the power behind all of this confusion that's 474 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: been going on for several months. It's helping us to 475 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: become more self reliant, more trusting ourselves, is driving us 476 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: into a higher sense of awareness. And that's the beauty 477 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: of all of this conflict and confusion. And of course 478 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: I wrote what must trust the intuition while not seeing 479 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: truth or a clear path? Because the intuition is right 480 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: eighty eighty five percent of the time. 481 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: That's real trust too, right, when you can't see anything 482 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: on the path forward, you just got to have faith 483 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: in certain things and your life. That and trusting yourself 484 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: is the main one. 485 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, and the greatest metaphor for this is it's like 486 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: driving in a thick fog. Yeah, and you can't see 487 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: what's in front of you, so you've got to look 488 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: just over the hood, going very slow and patient to 489 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: stay on the road. 490 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Neptune is. 491 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: That's what Pisces is, And it's following slowing down, feeling 492 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: your way, paying attention, trying to stay focused on what 493 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: you're feeling and intuiting, and that's Pisces. So what we're 494 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: doing in relationships, So. 495 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: How does that work with because we started this podcast 496 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: by talking about aries making us feel like we've got 497 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: fire shooting out of our ass, So how does what 498 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: we've just talked about work with all of that stuff 499 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: happening in aries? Or is that maybe coming more in 500 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: the future. 501 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: Because we're getting ready to go into the air res 502 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: New Moon. 503 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: On the seas okay. 504 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, okay, and you're getting ready for Mars 505 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: to go into Airrees on the ninth Okay, so that's 506 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: the fire and that's what's going to start the driving impulse. 507 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: Got it. 508 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: So I think sometimes maybe we ought to be a 509 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: little careful with Mars going into air ries please, because 510 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: that's warrior energy. Yeah, with all of this relationship energy 511 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: and warrior energy and relationship energy is not a good combination. 512 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for anyone who is a reality TV person, 513 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: I truly think that we are seeing this play out. 514 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: And this is a pop culture example because I like 515 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: to make it just you know, real life examples, but 516 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: we're seeing all of that play out on certain realities 517 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: as Marb. I'm sure you don't know about Secret Lives 518 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: and Mormon Wives, but that is a big show right now. 519 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: And there's all this relationship drama, but it involves domestic 520 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: violence and all of these other And I'm like, oh, 521 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: if the astrology was not astrologying, it is astrologying now, 522 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: like we are seeing it play out in pop culture 523 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: with all this fighting and volatility within like dysfunctional relationships. 524 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe take a beat before you react to 525 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: stuff moving into this next month. 526 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's what we've talked about before. I mean, 527 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: you have to take responsibility for what's being objectified to 528 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: mirroring back to you? What's going on inside of you? Yeah, 529 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: remember you don't see in somebody else, what is an 530 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: inside you? 531 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: Spotty, You got it, baby, that's the hardest lesson. 532 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 2: That's right, that one. Well, but don't hate it because 533 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: it helps you grow. 534 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, it definitely helps you grow. It's just a big 535 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: ego swallow. 536 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: And so with this full moon, this planetary lineup had 537 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: a couple of shifts as well. Okay, Juno is no 538 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: longer in Capricorn, which is you know, Astogio Capricorn and 539 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: Juno is about relationships, so it's about freedom and individuality 540 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: Aquarius inside relationships Juno. So it's the mental spiritual connection 541 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: over emotional dependency. So equality, authenticity, shared vision. That's how 542 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: this planetary lineup is playing out right now. I mean, 543 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: you don't want to be owned, well, there's anybody else. 544 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: We want to be seen and respected as a unique being. 545 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: And that's how the planetary lineup is working this full moon, which. 546 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: Is happening the day this podcast comes out, by the way, 547 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: you guys, so you're feeling the energy, you are right. 548 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: On time, that's you see, that's the big deal. So 549 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean, we're all kind of going through this Pisce's 550 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: lineup and Avery's lineup. Yeah, but as that's shifting now, 551 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: the final planet in that lineup is Jupiter, which was 552 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: retrograde at the full moon at the new moon, is 553 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: now going direct in cancer, which means this expands our 554 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: emotional intelligence and intuition. It brings to focus our family roots, 555 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: amplifies our nurturing protection, healing. It opens the pathways to 556 00:36:53,600 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 2: emotional and ancestral growth. And remember when we're he we're 557 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 2: healing our ancestors as well as healing our personal lives. 558 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: So this is a greater opportunity and responsibility when we're 559 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: healing emotional aspects of ourself. And so after all of 560 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: this transformation, just come back to the heart. What is 561 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: your intention? What is your heart telling you? And of 562 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 2: course then we go into arees. 563 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: Which is nothing about that. It's the opposite of that. 564 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: It's like, let's just move. 565 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: Right. So the funny thing is this is beginnings. You know, 566 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: astrologers have this battle over whether the winners the soulstice 567 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: is the real new year, or is the calendar the 568 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 2: first the new year, or is airrees the spring equinox 569 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: is that the new year, and so I mean, you know, 570 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: areas is beginning, things are coming alive, plans. I mean, 571 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: we're springing into a new life. And so it's it's 572 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: it's bringing the beginnings and the culmination of beginnings. And 573 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: now with arees it's act decide begin for real this time? 574 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: Okay, because you. 575 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: See arees, it's not only follows that intuitive instinct. They 576 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: follow sight and whatever they see, if they like it, 577 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: that's where they're going. And that's when I've always said, 578 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: you know, they draw the shield and the sword and 579 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: you better get out of the way. 580 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've learned that the hard way with as energy. 581 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: And it was really interesting. I was watching something on 582 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: some astrology thing and it asks what is the one 583 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: sign that even spirit does not get involved with or 584 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: try to block? 585 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't spirit try to correct? Like, because I find 586 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: energy often be very active. 587 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: It's the warrior. They are fighter. They warrior, They bludgeon, 588 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: their bloody, their combative. They will fight even spirit. So 589 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 2: there's no sense in trying to change in arees when 590 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: they are headstrong and they are going where they want 591 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: to go. 592 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: So they really with aries, you got to let them 593 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: make their bed and if they have consequences, just let 594 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: them face them. You can't warn an aries like this. 595 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: Is not to go that well yeah, yeah, beforehand. 596 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: Right, okay, So they have to experience it themselves. 597 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they're a arees. That's why they go 598 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: where angels fer the tread. You know. Yeah, most of 599 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 2: the time you look at it as being courageous, but 600 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes they step in a bucket of dumb 601 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: and they don't always come out with a fist full 602 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 2: of dollars or roses. 603 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: No, it's interesting because aries shadow like we were when 604 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: we were talking about the shadows of Pisces and Libra. 605 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: Like with aries, I do see it as a very 606 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, go out there, go to the places that 607 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: people are scared to go, as far as like going 608 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: first warrior like energy, fiercely driven on whatever their passion is. 609 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: Like you said, whatever's in front of them that they want, 610 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: they are gonna go get it. That is like the 611 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: chaser or whatever. But then a shadow to me is 612 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: that it's so headstrong and so self focused that it 613 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: can't What we were talking about with the example of 614 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: your relationship, for instance, if you had responded to Sharon 615 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: in a way of like, well, so what this is 616 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: what I got to get done? That wouldn't have gone 617 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: that well for your relationship, you know what I mean 618 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: if you had disregarded her feelings because you had a 619 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: focus somewhere else. It's not very relational. So that would 620 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: be the shadow of what we need to watch out 621 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: for right now, right a little bit, because there's so 622 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: much in aries. Yeah, I mean, you. 623 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: Know so as I mean, they're just born to act 624 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 2: without without considering the consequences, got it. 625 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: Okay, But that's. 626 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 2: Okay because if spirit is giving you your desires, well, 627 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: then you need to help. You need to act on 628 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 2: the desires because that's where you're going to learn. And 629 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: so as is, stop waiting, stop overthinking, move forward despite uncertainty. 630 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: What am I ready to fully commit to now? And 631 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: of course, what is the equation that I've talked about 632 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 2: to living a perfect life? Act on your excitement, follow 633 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: your passion, and let go of the outcome. 634 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is. 635 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: Very er and assumes the outcome. 636 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: Right, but it's going to be good. 637 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: They're not thinking about what is this going to be 638 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: good or bad? 639 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: They're just going God, that's allso amazing. That energy to 640 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: not overthink the way that like my chart. 641 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: Does right, And so where have I been hesitating that 642 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 2: I can no longer delay? Yeah, so now that's going 643 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: to be brought up. 644 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: Yes, stop doing. 645 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: That's the opposite side of what areas is trying to 646 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: teach you. Where have you been hesitating that you wanted 647 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: to do? Want it to go, want it to be? 648 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: What identity am I stepping into? What actions and aligns 649 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: with everything I've learned? And look at my final headline 650 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 2: there is you already know who you're becoming. Now act like. 651 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: It to really stepping into again your authentic self and 652 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: the things that you want. 653 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course the idea at the new moon 654 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: is going to conjunct chirn. This is a search for identity. 655 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: What better a way to find identity than the actions 656 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 2: that you undertake? Nothing more important than self realization. And 657 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: the only way to get that is to start out 658 00:43:52,239 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 2: in areas, step out without thinking, without analyzing. Just go. 659 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: You got the dream, you've been in dream time, You 660 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: got the dream. When you wake up, you see what 661 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 2: you want, you go and that leads you into just 662 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: letting go of the outcome. Learn from it, learn by doing, doing, 663 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: and so expect nothing less than personal potential. That's a 664 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 2: big one. And so you search the limits of yourself 665 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 2: and then go beyond, and that's how you find. 666 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: Yourself, all right, I mean I'm going to be I 667 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: keep saying this every month, like I'm very curious after 668 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: we do these how it's going to play out. And 669 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: I think so many things keep happening on the big 670 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: global scale too. It's just like there's so much happening, 671 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 1: and all we can do is focus on the day 672 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: and our own journeys and try to keep listening to 673 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: our own intuitions and following that as the guides because 674 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on and it doesn't seem like 675 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: it's slowing down anytime soon. So if you want to 676 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: do a personal reading with Marv, which I find very 677 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: very very helpful, if you don't know anything about your 678 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: own personal birth chart, Marv, where can they find you 679 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: for that? 680 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 2: They can find me at Marvin and astromarv dot com 681 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: is my email. Astromarv dot com is my website. 682 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: Okay, And I was always I'll put that in the 683 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: description of this podcast for you guys. Marv also has 684 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: a great book that I'll put in the description of 685 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: this podcast. If you want to start there and just 686 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: get a little soul conversation going with yourself and then 687 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 1: go see Marv, they're all good options, So go check 688 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: all of that out. Marv, thank you again for being 689 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 1: here with us and we'll see you next month. 690 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me and I look forward to them. 691 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening.