1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daley, brought to 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN. Cleveland. Interesting the next couple of days for 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: the Browns. A lot of rumors out there at the 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: receiver stuff. But Cole Harden going to the Jets. We'll 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: see where it all shakes out. Zegejevit you thank you man. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: What a pleasure, what a treat to be on and 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: and keep your eyes. I think that the Browns are 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: certainly still in the mix at the wide receiver position, 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: and I think the Jets have become a very interesting 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: potential partner for them. You got the signer, you got 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Cole Harder. There you go. You heard it here. Pay attention, kids. 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. All right, 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: let's you alive on a Thursday edition. You miss a 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: little miss a lot end of the show yesterday that exchange. 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: The dots just started to line up for Elijah Moore. 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: It's a name that we've been bandying about for months now. 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: As soon as it came to the idea of this 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: was something that was going to be necessary at our 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: view for the Browns to go from a team that 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: could go out and take the field and you know, 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: top ten offense last year with Jacoby Brissette, but the 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: difference between that and beating Kansas City was always going 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: to be more weapons. There were minimum requirements that this 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: team had to do in order to be in the conversation, 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: and all of those things were on the defensive line. 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: The next thing they had to do was they had 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: to get weapons. And that's what Elijah Moore was about. 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about him for months. We had talked about, 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: certainly the Jerry Judy trades as being possible as well. 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: We had talked about at forty two the options there. 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: One of the things we're very strong about is it 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: was hard to imagine that the Browns would go into 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: the draft in need of something that they would want 36 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: to solve the issues beforehand. And yesterday at the end 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: of the show, as we alluded to, and then eventually 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: it became true within an hour or so, Elijah Moore 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: is a Cleveland Brown now and he checks the last 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: box that was needed. Z no doubt about it. And yeah, 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: pay attention to the scores as you know, not to 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: toot our own horns, but to them, balls are gonna 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: spike itself. As a friend of ours once said, two, 44 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: uh yeah, you needed to get that speed receiver. Four 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: three forty guy explosive nine touchdowns in two seasons with 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: really no quarterback play to speak of with the Jets, 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: somebody who is dominant at ole Miss in the SEC 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: playing against the very best competition. And so this feels 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: like a big win for the Cleveland Browns in the 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: sense that when you look at the modern trade chart, 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: the move from forty two to seventy four, this wasn't 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: you gave up a pick for a player. You swapped 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: the pick, so you still get to pick a player. 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: And by the way, if mj. Emerson were a second 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: round pick last year, orybody'd be very happy with that. 56 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: So you have to rely on your ability to hit 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: on the in the third round. But it really the 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: equivalent of what you gave up. The discrepancy in those picks, 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: the thirty two spots is equivalent to a pick in 60 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the middle of the fourth round. So if you had said, hey, 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna get Elijah Moore for two years on a 62 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: rookie deal, where we're gonna pay him under two million 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: dollars each of the next two seasons. You would say 64 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: that's a that's a huge win. Not only that it 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: allows you the flexibility that a Jerry Judy wouldn't have 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: allowed you. We would have given up more for Jerry Judy, frankly, 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: but it gives you the flexibility that Amari Cooper. This 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily like if you trade for Judy, this would 69 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: have been a Mari's last year with the Browns. Correct, 70 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: That's not true anymore. And so now you've given yourself 71 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: that weapon. You've given yourself that speed guy. I can 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: tell you from talking to Kevin Stefanski last night, which 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I did, he is very excited. Alexand Pelt is very excited. 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: And Elijah Moore, who I spoke with earlier today, is 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: also very excited about this. And so you now have 76 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: your set on both sides of the ball to roll 77 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: out a lineup. So when you go into the draft, 78 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: to your point, you're not forced to do anything. Now 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: if you could find, you know, a big defensive tackle 80 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: in there. I'm going to throw out a position that 81 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about before, but I think we should 82 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: now it would not at all shock me if we 83 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: took a running back in the third round. Yeah, mentioned 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: that this morning as a as one. That would make 85 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to you know, I think you 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: want to probably need a bunch of at bats on 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and then I agree with you. I 88 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: think I think running back is the next one. But 89 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: just from the perspective, you hit on something that I 90 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: think is really important with the difference between Judy and 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: more and certainly Judy is more proven. I mean that's 92 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: that goes without saying. Moore has very very high upside 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: as well. Just so people are he just about ready 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: to turn twenty three years of age. In fact, four 95 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: days from now he turns twenty three. So, um, you're 96 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: getting a very young player, still very much in the 97 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: prime of his career, who was a second round pick 98 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: out of Ole Miss In an offense it was very good, 99 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: played in the best conference in all of last year conference. Um. Yeah, 100 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: so he's he is a high production guy. It did 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: not work for him in New York. A lot of 102 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: that had to do with the quarterbacks throwing him the ball. 103 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: And there is a belief, and we've mentioned this many 104 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: many times that they've liked Elijah Moore for a long time. 105 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Ye around here, it's a fact, that's fact. So there's 106 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: been a lot of boxes that he checked for all 107 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: of this started to come about and the pivot I 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: think from the pursuit of Micole Hardman to hey, if 109 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: you're going to get Hardman, we would sure like more. 110 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: And they've probably been asked about more for a long time. 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Those things now all started to align and now you 112 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: check that final box. So when the last year at 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Ole Miss, which was twenty twenty, which was the Codesies, 114 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: I didn't have it right right, I had it wrong. 115 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: He had he didn't have a hundred catches, but in 116 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: eight games, yeah, he had eighty six catches one one 117 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: ninety three yards and eight touchdowns. In the SEC he 118 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: led the nation I think in catches and yards per game. 119 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: I knew that he led that in one of those 120 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler absolutely loved him. A lot of people loved 121 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: him coming out in that draft. If the Browns, if 122 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: he had fallen to where the Browns got were able 123 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: to pick in the second round, the Browns would have 124 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: taken him. There's no doubt in my mind about that. 125 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: He was a favorite, and now two years later they 126 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: were able to go out there and to get that 127 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: and to get it done. But I wanted to just 128 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: kind of dive into one thing real quick here on 129 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, because you look at the numbers and you 130 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, okay, you know he obviously was 131 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: playing some tough quarterback situations there, But I want to 132 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: go back to his rookie year. There was a stretch 133 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: where it finally started to click for him, and this 134 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: is what he did. These are his final six games 135 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: of his rookie season. Six for sixty seven, seven for 136 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: eighty four and two touchdowns, three for forty four and 137 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown, eight for one forty one in a touchdown, 138 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: four for forty six, six for seventy seven and a touchdown, 139 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: and then he hurt his squad. So he had a 140 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: six game stretch there where he's given you a let's see, 141 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: that's thirteen sixteen, twenty four thirty four catches in six games, 142 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: so almost six catches a game. He's given me about 143 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: eighty yards a game, and he scored five touchdowns in 144 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: six games. Ye, So this is somebody who got it 145 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: going in that rookie season and had show the ability 146 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: to be short, catch and run, the ability to beat 147 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: man coverage with his breaks in and out man who 148 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: showed the ability to go vertical and make big plays 149 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: down the field. And so he is he is exactly 150 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: what we were looking for. And I think once it 151 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: all came together yesterday and you could connect the dots 152 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: pretty quickly, that there's no way that Jets were keeping 153 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: all the people that they had. That Elijah Moore made 154 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: a lot of sense for the Browns. I can tell 155 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: you Deshaun Watson is pumped. I can tell you that 156 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore is pumped. Everybody in this building is excited. 157 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: I'll go back to a conversation I had and I 158 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: told us at the event we did last night and 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: meet the coaches event down the stadium the day of 160 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: Day two of the draft, the night of day two 161 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: of the draft in twenty twenty one, so it was 162 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: still a kind of It was a COVID draft, it 163 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: was a virtual thing. I remember Kevin Svansky was eating outside. 164 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: It was a very nice day. It was a beautiful 165 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: April evening, and I grabbed my plate and sat down 166 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: with them when we were talking and talking about the draft, 167 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, I want Elijah Moore. I was like, 168 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: please give me Elijah Moore today. He goes, and he laughed, 169 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: and he goes, we would all like that, because I 170 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: just I don't think that it's going to be possible. 171 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: He goes, You and my dad, though, should get together 172 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: because he was Elijah Moore was his dad's favorite player 173 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: and as well. Yeah, so I joked with him last night. 174 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I said, well, your dad finally got his guy, and 175 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: he said, yes, his dad is also quite pleased with 176 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: Elijah more now being a Cleveland Brown. But he's like, 177 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: my dad loves all SEC receivers, to be fair, but 178 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: he really did. He did like Elijah Moore. But I 179 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: mean the things really quick on that, because you went 180 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: all the way back to the draft. One thing we 181 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: always like to do. I always like to do is 182 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: how do you do I do this when I do 183 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the Heisman, like, I want to know how you are 184 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: against the five best teams you played, and I threw 185 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: out the rest of the games. So everybody plays garbage games, 186 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: but everybody in the country plays five really good games typically, 187 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: And so I do that with the draft. I want 188 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: to know how you did against the best. It's not 189 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: always an absolute yes, you do this, it translates. For example, 190 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I thought David Bell's transitioned to the pros would be 191 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: much easier than it was. It wasn't. But I still 192 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: think that there's a chance for him based on some 193 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: of the stuff. But this was Elijah Moore, his final 194 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: year at Old Miss against the best teams he played. 195 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: So against Florida, ten catches two hundred and twenty seven yards, 196 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: that's right. Against Alabama eleven catches one hundred and forty 197 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: three yards yep. Against Mississippi State, the rivalry in the 198 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Egg Bowl, twelve catches one hundred and thirty nine yards 199 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: against Arkansas eleven catches one hundred and thirteen yards. I mean, 200 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: I don't know what band in South Carolina bandis trash, 201 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: but South Carolina Nina's pretty trash too. But so I 202 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: didn't want to go. Those were nuts games. But when 203 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: you do what he did against Bama, yep, eleven one 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: forty three against Bama at Alabama team in twenty twenty, 205 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: that's Judy rugs, that's all of them, yep, all those 206 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: guys um And to go eleven one forty three against 207 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: that Bama defense, that tells you that he can get 208 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: it and get separation against the very best programs in 209 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the country. If you're curious against those two games against 210 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: fanned Real South Carolina fourteen two thirty eight, thirteen two 211 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: twenty five against South five touchdowns as well. Yeah, but 212 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean those just suber down. So but the rest 213 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: of those aren't. The only really dudd he had his 214 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: last year was a five for sixteen against Auburn. Um 215 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: that was it. Everything else was a double digit catch. 216 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: It was one hundred yards or in fact many instances 217 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: much more. Yeah. So that's that's that's what you'll love 218 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: to see. And um, we're excited about it because it's 219 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: kind of he's gonna have to do it at the 220 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: pro level. He knows that we talked about, you know, 221 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: you talked about his rookie year he had that stretch. Um, 222 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: I love the idea and I know that how much 223 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: Andrew Barry loves the idea of going into the draft 224 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: if you can with one of two things as your plan, 225 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: and of course, contingency upon contingency, but either the Jed 226 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: Wills year, we are going to get a left tackle. 227 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of which one. So we're we're 228 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: getting one, like that's part of the plane. The newsome 229 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: year felt like we're getting a corner yep like that 230 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: felt like fell you're Greg newsom um so this year 231 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: to sit there at forty two and have legitimate needs, 232 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: we were very confident that they were not going to 233 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: go into that draft without every off season check, every 234 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: off season box checked, and they did that. They are 235 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: no longer in a position going into the draft of 236 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: and by the way, they're not keeping all these picks. 237 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: There's away, there's just no chance. But they're now able 238 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: to go into the draft and say we can draft 239 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: the best player rated on our board without having to say, 240 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: good lord, we've got to force a receiver here because 241 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: we don't have enough weapons. They have somebody that they 242 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: believe it now as a weapon, and now you don't 243 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: have to do that. Doesn't mean it would prevent you. 244 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: Somebody falls to forty two, who you love, you take 245 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: him at receiver. More weapons all the better, But now 246 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: it allows you to be much more nimble in the 247 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: draft as opposed to pigeonhold. And they were never going 248 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: to go into a draft pigeonhold. Yes, you are completely 249 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: you have totally the ability to be nimble, you have 250 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: the ability to go in a variety of directions you're 251 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: exactly right, and to get a player that they you 252 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: liked in this building as much as you did with 253 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, who has some NFL tape that is impressive. 254 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that were very frustrating 255 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: for Elijah Moore, and I think that he's learned, you know, 256 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: from that frustration. But this is a new lease on life. 257 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: He knew by the way, grew up in the same 258 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: area as Mark. Cooper. Has a great relationship with Amari Cooper, 259 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: somebody who he's admired for a long time to extended 260 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: play with. He's known to Sean out in LA I 261 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: guess they've trained together. So he's very excited about that. 262 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: J had to cover him in the egg bowl. I'm sure, 263 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no doubt he knows MJ. He knows you're 264 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, Grant and Jacob and we have so 265 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: many SEC guys. Yeah, So he's he's very comfortable here. 266 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: But your your point is very well received. That we 267 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: could roll out exactly what we have right now, and 268 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: so now it's about finding things that you know could 269 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: be luxury and again don't forget. Now, we could roll 270 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: this money forward, but we're gonna get ten million after 271 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: June first for people who are wanting a big, you know, 272 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: veteran name on the D line. If that's gonna happen, 273 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: my guess is that happens after June first, because we're 274 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: carrying that ten million on our cap now, but then 275 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: it will be freed up June first, and you know, 276 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: you get a veteran who's I'm not that interested in 277 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: OTAs or anything like that, but you'd get him in 278 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: here in time for training camp. I think that that's 279 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: when something like that would happen. But you're in a 280 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: very very good spot now. Elijah Moore does have real speed, 281 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and you know, you think about trying to defend us 282 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: now with his speed, you're just gonna be worried about obviously, 283 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, you're gonna worried about Amar, You're gonna worried 284 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: about the Chief. You should be worried about dpj Elijah Moore. 285 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: And then there's Deshaun Watson who's the trigger man. And 286 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, Jim schwartzaid something very interesting last night as 287 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: somebody's you know who's he's gone against Deshaun Watson. And 288 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback like that, you never feel, 289 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: as a Devin quarter that you can ever just come 290 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: up with the perfect scheme or come up it doesn't matter. 291 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: It's about you've got to call the right place and 292 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: then they've got to be executed and even then it 293 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: still might not matter. And that's the tough part about 294 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are special like Deshaun Watson is from that regard. 295 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: And so now to give him these weapons, I mean, 296 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: this is a big time. Elijah Moore, had he gone 297 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: into a different situation, would never have been available. And 298 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: I think the Browns did something highly intelligent in this. 299 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: The Jets were supposedly only looking for a third round 300 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: pick for Elijah Moore. By offering them a second round 301 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: pick and getting a third back, you actually they can say, oh, 302 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: well we got a second round pick for Elijah Moore. 303 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: You actually gave them a four and so yeah from 304 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, and I think that they're I don't 305 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: be surprised if that too is then used to get 306 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So I think they were. Maybe the Browns 307 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: took advantage of their their focus on that to actually 308 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: get a cheaper price tag and get a player that 309 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: they coveted. And if Elijah Moore went to a different place, 310 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: if Elijah Moore went to a place with one of 311 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: these good quarterbacks, like let's say he ended up it 312 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, he's not available. Oh no at all, 313 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: no period, no, and he's gonna be hungry man like 314 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: he knows what's said about him. He knows, you know, 315 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: this opportunity that's ahead of him. So it's it's an 316 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: exciting time. It's a time where you know, from from 317 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: our position, now you roll out a two deep in 318 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: all twenty two special teams. You can now run that 319 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: out there and you have a team that you feel 320 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: like can compete. This was the last thing that was needed. 321 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: It was critical. And if you didn't think it was, 322 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean, god, we talked about it all the time. 323 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: You didn't think it was critical. All you need for 324 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: proof the other way is what they did to make 325 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: sure they get a guy like this, yep, Like they 326 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: were doggedly pursuing these type of people. They were in 327 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: on Jerry Judy, they were in on Micole Hardman. They 328 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: knew they needed another weapon. They get one on Elijah Moore. 329 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they're done either you're out. You can be 330 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: opportunistic now at this point, if something pops, you can 331 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: go make a move for it. I like your point 332 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: on the deep veteran defensive end down the line, that 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: could be something as you get more closer to camp. 334 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: So there's a kind of opportunity there. I think that, yeah, 335 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, if you're the Browns 336 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: right now now when you're in this draft, you're looking 337 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: and you could probably get pretty good value at running 338 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: back in the third round, another defensive tackle in the 339 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: third round, a slot corner in the third like a 340 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: true slot nickel in the third round, to allow you 341 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: kind of to prepare for a variety of things on 342 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: the back end, and knowing that there is going to 343 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: be an injury there at some point. I just think 344 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: that you really really are in a great spy. Getting 345 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore just kind of lets you exhale a kind 346 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: of Ye, it's the bubble a little bit, and you 347 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: know this is a team right now that's flying under 348 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: the radar. You're starting to see everybody around praise what 349 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: we've done this offseason and how judiciously it was done, 350 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: how fiscally responsibly it was done. So you've got a 351 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: team right now that still has some ammo on the 352 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: salary cap side of it. You have a team that 353 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: rolling forward some cap money is going to be very 354 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: valuable because of it's inevitable, like you've got to pay 355 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson bill at some point. Now you can 356 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: restructure again next year and keep kicking it down the can. 357 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: But Adventure, he is going to get paid, and that 358 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: is going to impact what you are able to do. 359 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: So I think you know, to get a guy that's 360 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: I think making one point four and then one point 361 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: eight in Elijah Moore, who can actually make a difference 362 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: this year like he is. It's your point is young. 363 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: We now have a pretty young wide receiver room. It 364 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: takes a lot of pressure off of David Bell in 365 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: terms of his development, but could still end up being, 366 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, as this thing of all is David Belkinsillana 367 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: being a nice slot piece for the Browns down the road. 368 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: But now you don't need to worry about that. This 369 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: this receiving room is so interesting now with Amari Donovan, 370 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, David Bell, those are your top four. My 371 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: guess is you know jackiem Grant makes it as your 372 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: returner if he's back from his injury, right, and that's 373 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: five and you might only roll with five, could keep six? 374 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I think it's gonna be. Anthony Schwartz 375 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: was so good on special teams last year. Like that's 376 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: if you're Anthony Schwartz right now, you're calling card to 377 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: make this football team as special teams period, full stop. Yeah, 378 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. That's where that competition will be 379 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: in terms of what it means for us in the 380 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: draft as of now. And we're never going to keep 381 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: all these picks. They're just are enough spots for it 382 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: all two thirds, seventy third and ninety eight then two 383 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: four s one eleven and one twenty six, two fifths 384 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: two one forty four, A six one ninety seventh at 385 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: two thirty one. Yeah, don't be surprised if we either 386 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: try to take a couple of picks to move up 387 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: and turn two picks into one player, if we divest 388 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: some of these picks this year into next year at 389 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: you know the round benefit that you get out of that. 390 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: And so I think that that the idea that we're 391 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: going to select eight players, and you know, there's just 392 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: not there aren't eight roster spots. No. I mean, one 393 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: of the things we should do, and I know we 394 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: have on here, is to go through the position groups 395 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: right now. But like I'm going to show you, you 396 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: could do a pretty legit fifty three like today. And 397 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: I think that's what they wanted to be able to 398 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: be in. Is the position to be able to do that. 399 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: You did not want to go into the draft saying 400 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: we have to get a guy a weapon at forty 401 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: two who can help us. Now, that's the last thing 402 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to be in. That's not a position for success, 403 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: and this allows for that not to be the case. 404 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: We will rank the position groups, we will go z 405 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: will go one on one with Elijah Moore. You have 406 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: that to look forward to, which is very nice. Which 407 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Semini's going to join us in the two o'clock hour, 408 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: of course, covering the Jets. Get his take on Elijah Moore, 409 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: get his take also on where they stand with the 410 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Rogers situation. Josh Dobbs will join us in studio in 411 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: the second hour as well. He'll listened to Cleveland Browns 412 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Daily on eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought 413 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: to you by bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on 414 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. All right, welcome back you to Cleveland. 415 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: Browns Daily brought you by bally Bet, coming soon to 416 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. It is lovely out 417 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: there today, I mean just gorgeous, absolute butte, and it's 418 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: something it's abute, really is at Clark. Buddy Garretty doesn't 419 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: hate much in life. He likes most things. He'll do 420 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: about anything, he'll eat anything, he'll go about anywhere that 421 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: I want him to go at any time, regardless of circumstances. 422 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: That was a real heart to heart he and I 423 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: had this morning before the walk, and really, quite frankly 424 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: during I basically pulled him for a mile is what 425 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: it amounted to. He hated every second of it. He 426 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: won no part of it, no part of it. And 427 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: we're I mean, you're in it like you've got Tomorrow 428 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be cool. Then it's just gonna rain Saturday 429 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: sixty five and just rain, and then next week is 430 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: honestly pure trash too. And I mean all the way 431 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: out there isn't a day, there's not a seventy anywhere 432 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: it goes. It's high low like the temperature supposed to 433 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: be dropping as the day goes on. It's supposed to 434 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: be like near forty degrees by the time I get 435 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: out of here today, like Saturday is supposed to be 436 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: sixty eight, but like just funder storms and then like 437 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: thirty four at night it is, it is all over 438 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: the place. And so it is the best February I've 439 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: had here on record, and I think the worst March 440 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: I've had here on record, where I feel like, no 441 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: no wins there whatsoever. No, So it was brutal. This 442 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: is awful, Like it moved in last night. I think 443 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: it's like every other day. Yeah, and the days that 444 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: it does, and it's like forty degrees. Yes, Yeah, that's 445 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: where we're at. Um. All right, let's take a look 446 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: at the position groups. Uh, now that we're through free 447 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: and honestly, from a free agency standpoint, we're done unless 448 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: now this is an official just us talking, We're done 449 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: unless some crazy opportunity presents. Like you're good, you know, 450 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: if it's there's something great, you're never gonna stop working. 451 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: You're gonna relentlessly try to improve the roster. But in 452 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: terms of need, you're done. You've you've checked all the 453 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: boxes on need. Um, let's go through it a little 454 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: bit in terms of where we stand in the fifty three. 455 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: I see you've got copious notes here, um, and and 456 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: just kind of taking a look at all of these things. 457 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: So let's just start on the offensive side of the ball. 458 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Um at quarterback, you're locked up Deshaun Watson, and you've 459 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: got Josh Dobbs will be joining us here momentarily within 460 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: next hour. Yes, so that's very solid. And mont yeah 461 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: by the way, oh yeah, by the way, by the way, 462 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: so we nailed that scores on that too, Dobbs last week. Yep. Yeah, 463 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: we'll do more yesterday. Yeah, we're pay attention. I mean, 464 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: how many times you got to say it? Everybody? Well 465 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: some do they know? I mean, it's all there so 466 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: if you listen. Yeah, um, the running back room doctor 467 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Z all right. So right now, you got Nick, Chubb, 468 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: Jerome for it. So in my fifty three that I'm 469 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: doing right now, which so that'd be eight. Let's see 470 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: on the offense, I got twenty four. I got the 471 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks for now, I got Chubb, Jerome Ford, and 472 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: then a rookie or a veteran we'll add somebody that 473 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: room could be a guy that's like a Jerick McKinnon 474 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: as a veteran option, maybe kind of a pass catcher, 475 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: or somebody in this draft. I think that you could 476 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: certainly add into that room right there. Every time every 477 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: time we talked about the draft, like they talk about 478 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: the depth of running back loaded could be a really 479 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: value pick in the fourth round, in the third round. 480 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about, like Pacheco's a seventh 481 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: rounder last year, like that's saying you're gonna get somebody 482 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: that good, but you just might yep, um, yeah, that's 483 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: where you are. The receiver. You know, you could look 484 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: at a fifty three right now. I mean I even 485 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: got some extra spots here. Uh, you got six receivers, 486 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Cooper Donovan, People's Jones, Elijah Moore, David Bell. I think 487 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: those four are probably are locks. Yeah, I think those 488 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: are four locks. I think you got jackim Grant if 489 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. And then maybe for now we'll 490 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: say on the sixth spot, you know Anthony Schwartz, Michael Woods, 491 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: you know Demitric Felton if if you know his I 492 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: don't know who, or that could be somebody outside that 493 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: could be a draft two or that could be Marquis Goodwin. 494 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but you're down the list now. At 495 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: this point, you're pretty locked in. At the top of it, 496 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: yeph three tight ends and the Joe Coud, Jordan Nakins, 497 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Harrison Bryant. Yeah, that's locked. You got um four tackles, Conklin, 498 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: Jed Wills, Joe Haig, James Hudson, and again Haig has 499 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: played in the league for a while. But my guesses 500 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: that would be your fourth. But there's you could have 501 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: a rookie, you could it. You could draft the tackle 502 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: guards Batonio teller It, Drew Forbes is probably your top 503 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: backup right now. But again you could you could draft 504 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: somebody or bring in, you know, bring back a Michael 505 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Dunn for example, he was a free agent, so somebody there. 506 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: So I think, I got what do I have? Twenty 507 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: five on this side? Six twelve, fifteen, fifteen, and nine 508 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: twenty four, and then your center's post it and Nick Harris. Now, 509 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: Dawson Deaton's a guy that we drafted last year. He 510 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: could be a guard tackle. You know, maybe he's somebody 511 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: he's competing in the mix there. Then you go the 512 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: defensive side, real quick on that offense. Good. This is 513 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: what the More. This is what the More acquisition allows 514 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: because now it's it could this absolutely could be set 515 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: and it allows for and it's as I was leading 516 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: off the top of the show with this, it allows 517 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: for you to be more than a top ten offense 518 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It adds allows for explosiveness. It allows 519 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: for you to with the of course, understanding that Watson 520 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: reverts to what he was in two thousand and twenty one, 521 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, provided he does that, which we all believe 522 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: that he'll do. We saw it in practice. There's hard 523 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: for me to imagine that he doesn't. It allows for 524 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: you to go head to head, toe to toe with Cincinnati, Buffalo, 525 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yes, it allows for that. Yeah, without Elijah Moore. 526 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: My argument was it didn't that there wasn't enough firepower. 527 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Now theoretically there is. Yeah, So that's that's what all 528 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: of that means. And it allows for them to I mean, God, 529 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: you can swing big in the draft, you can great 530 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: things fall your way, you can go. I think this 531 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: opens up running back, which is you said it off 532 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: the top, I said it this morning, like this allows 533 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: for all of a sudden incredible talent in the third, 534 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: fourth round at running back falls to you. You can 535 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: pounce on that as a weapon, and now you've got 536 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: another weapon, because that will be the job going forward 537 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: is to stockpile weapons so that when people leave or 538 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: when things move off of you've got somebody you could 539 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: plug in. Kansas City's the best example of this, absolutely 540 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: to your defensor. So on the defense, you know, defensive end, 541 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: you've got Miles double O seven, Alex Wright, and Isaiah Thomas. 542 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: Now I think that you could add a vet or 543 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: a rookie here. I think there could be another player 544 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: of consequence added to this room. And Isaiah Thomas's job 545 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: is going to be to try to hold that off. 546 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: Those first three year locks defensive tackle, you'll end up 547 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: with four there. Defensive tackle, Dalvin Tomlinson, Perry Winfrey, Jim Schwartz, 548 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I think is a fan of Jordan Elliott. And then 549 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: I think that last Spott'll be who who emerges out 550 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: of Maurice Hurst, Tristan hill Um. You know, I think 551 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: it's a long shot for you know, it's gonna be 552 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: tough for Tommy toey I, but this is his chance 553 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: of he's going to change his trajectory now, Ben Still 554 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: who was on the roster last year, ROGERI Perry who 555 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: was on the roster for a few games. You know, 556 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a healthy competition for that fourth defensive 557 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: tackle spot. Une Bank at d end. I mean I 558 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: always think of like Frank Clark. Frank'd be great Michigan guy. Yeah, 559 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: and rush the passer rush seriously. Yeah, So yes, I 560 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: think that that would be great. And then what you 561 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: would be having is, you know, Garrett double O seven 562 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: and Frank Clark in your NASCAR package with either Thomlinson 563 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: or Perion if he emerges as the best pass rusher, 564 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: and then Alex Wright would probably play your big end 565 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: in run situations. Linebackers, you know, you could have six 566 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe you have seven year to get to fifty three 567 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: right now, but a Walk Phillips, Tacky j ok Now, 568 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know if Toky is gonna be ready 569 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: for week one, so you could say that's a question 570 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: Mark Tony Fields. And then you've got Kunashik and Adams 571 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: that you signed for special teams, and those guys, I 572 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: think there's a good chance both of those guys end 573 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: up on the roster. So if Tocki's not ready, then 574 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: it would be Phillips, Walker, jok Fields, and there could 575 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: be injuries, obviously, but we're talking about right now. Corner 576 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: You've got Denzel, You've got Greg You've got MJ You've 577 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: got a J You've got Ford, who was brought in 578 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: from Mike Ford. That's Abuba Ventron favorite, brought in from Atlanta. 579 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, Adams is Abuba Ventron favorite as well. 580 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: The linebacker Matthew Adams. He had him in Indie and 581 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: has been one of the top three ProFootball Focus special 582 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: teamers in the league period, full stop. So I think 583 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: you've got those five, and then you could add I 584 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: think you had a rookie into that room, in the 585 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: in the dB room, in the cornerback room, I'm sorry, 586 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: I think you'd be a rookie who's more of a 587 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: true nickel free safety. Got one Thornhill strong safety Grant 588 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: and d Anthony Bell. I still think you need a 589 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: veteran with some positional versatility, non expensive guy, but a 590 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: veteran who's played in the league and knows how to 591 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: play back there in that safety room. I think that's 592 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: something that still needs to be added to that room 593 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: and you do that and you have your three specialists, 594 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: and boom, we're at fifty three. Yeah, I think you're 595 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you just did it. I think when you 596 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: as you're going through all of that and you think 597 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: about what would now, what would I like to have 598 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: more of I'd like to have one more I'm not 599 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: talking about a superstar, but and I mean Frank Clark 600 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: is a high production guy. I think you need one 601 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: more dude at end. I'd like to have one more, 602 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: one more guy there for injury, for every and just 603 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: I think you need to butcher set up just a 604 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: little bit. But these are these are now more like 605 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: luxury plays more than they are. If we don't have this, 606 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: we can't feel a team that can compete. We can 607 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: feel the team that can compete. This is more luxury stuff. 608 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see one more there. I'd like 609 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: to see one more d tackle because I'd like to 610 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: be in a position where there's some competitiveness in terms 611 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: of Perion and Elliott. I'd like one more dude in there, 612 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: whether it's a rookie veteran, I think on end, i'd 613 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: almost rather have a veteran at tackle. I could go 614 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: either way doesn't really matter. I just want one more 615 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: guy who can play, who can push for playing time. 616 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: And I think you're right on safety. I think you 617 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: need some one more guy back there. Safety is the 618 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: one where it feels to me like we going into 619 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: the season as we are right now is unacceptable. You 620 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: could I think you can go into the season at 621 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: end and defensive tackle exactly as you are. You could do. 622 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: I think you can improve those. Yeah, I don't think 623 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: you can go into safety the way you are right now, 624 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: just with the Anthony Bell and Bubba Bolden is your 625 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: only backups. Like I just that doesn't and I might 626 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: is that you don't want you You you want a 627 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: cheap veteran because the Anthony is still only a second 628 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: year player. Maybe you draft one as well to become 629 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: that kind of versatile safety in the draft in the 630 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: middle rounds. Again, I'm with you. Those are the things 631 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: that and then the other thing that I think you 632 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: need is a running back. I think that's really the 633 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: only need you have on the offensive side of the Yeah. Yeah, 634 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: And I think you have great versatility to be able 635 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: to do that. I was just gonna pull up, um, 636 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to be able is one of these things 637 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: you where you can do it by position. I'd like 638 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, like available free agents at safety? Left, 639 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: who's still in the mix? Um, it doesn't seem like 640 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff isn't updated. I just would 641 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: be curious to know, like, um, like NFL trade rumors 642 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: puts out like a position rankings. Well this was on 643 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: March eight. Let me see if I can get here. 644 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: This is the Athletic did this? I mean, you got 645 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: a list. It just has given me some safeties. We'll 646 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: see if we can if we have to cross anybody off, 647 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: we'll see. Um. But the top of my head, that's 648 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: his defensive backs. You're looking for safety. That's just I 649 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: found one on the Athletic. It's just the internet. Here's brutal. 650 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get to a point where to load. 651 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: Is Taylor rap what about like a Rodney McLeod. Yeah, 652 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: these are some names. Yeah, that's those are the names. 653 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, so Julie, I don't have no 654 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: point of reference on Yeah, so Thornhill they had tenth 655 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: on this list. But a lot of these guys have 656 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: already signed. Adrian amos Uh, John Johnson, who we thought 657 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: signed somewhere with the Charge the Chargers, but did not 658 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: according to everybody in their brother here. Is that just 659 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: a are they just waiting that out? I'm not sure 660 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: to make an official Terrell Edmonds hmm, that's not We 661 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: need somebody that's got I'm just rattling off the ones 662 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: that I'm seeing. Taylor rap would be. Yeah, Taylor Rapp 663 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: is an interesting one. Who's a young guy that if 664 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: he's still available, probably can be had for for pretty cheap. Um. 665 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: There's an Andrew Adams from Tennessee. So Taylor Rapp, Rodney 666 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: McLeod who was with the Saints last year, Adrian Amos 667 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: who was with the Packers. Those are the guys. Doron 668 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: Harmon's a veteran that you could bring in here that 669 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: absolutely knows how to play both positions and could be valuable. 670 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: Logan Ryan same thing. And these guys would be would 671 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: be pretty cheap. These that's that's that's the world you're 672 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: living in. That's that's what you're looking at. Rodney McLoud 673 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: would make a ton of sense. Ton of sense. Harmon 674 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: is on the those are that those are the names 675 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: you're looking for, though, and then and then if you're 676 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: talking just real quick to say there's a lot of depth, 677 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of veterans still out there on the defensive line. 678 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: Whether I mean Forrest Buckner's still out there, Frank Clark's 679 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: still out there. There's there's a lot of veteran D 680 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: line d N D tackle guys that are out there 681 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: who could be like guys you sign in July in 682 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 1: the fans of Camp. I think from a running back standpoint, 683 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: if it was a veteran the only guy, it really 684 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense. Jered McKinnon, that just screams rookie. 685 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: To me, it does. But if you're looking for somebody 686 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: who's your pass catcher, you want them to be stout 687 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: in pass protection and that doesn't scream rookie. And to 688 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: me with Kevin Stefanski, I don't know if Jerome Ford 689 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: can do that or not. We just haven't seen him 690 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: do that. It's right, and I think one of the 691 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: things you know they're talking about is, you know, the 692 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: assumption that he's just gonna be able to step in 693 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: and do what Kaream did or do it even better, 694 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: I think is a little bit tough. McKinnon, You know, 695 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know if people realize what McKinnon did 696 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: down the stretch last year for them fifty six catches, 697 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: five hundred twelve yards and nine touchdowns receiving Yeah, for 698 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So he's somebody that absolutely could give you 699 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: that third down compliment to Nick Chubb and allow Ford 700 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: to really focus on just being a backup and continuing 701 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: to learn, you know, in his second year in the league. 702 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: That would actually would be to me if you got 703 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: him on like a Vetman deal, would be an awesome signing. 704 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: That'd be a sweet one, all right. Coming up next, 705 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: Ze goes one on one with Elijah More. You listen 706 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns Lay brought you by baallely Bet Coming 707 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: soon Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 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Thank you, very happy to beer. 717 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: All right, when did you know that this was a possibility. 718 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: Probably yesterday. I got a phone call from my agent 719 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: so and he was like, Cleveland. I was with it. 720 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: So I was just super excited hearing the news. So 721 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm just blessed to be here. You know, well, we're 722 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: certainly happy to have you. I'm sure as you've kind 723 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: of made the rounds, you knew that the Browns were 724 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: interested in you two years ago when you're coming out 725 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: of Old Miss, coming off of a very productive season there. 726 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: It didn't work out, but now they got a chance 727 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: to make it right and bring you here. You know, 728 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: in the draft, you know a team wants you, they 729 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: select you in the draft, especially early in the second round. 730 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: But tap a team come and trade for you. What 731 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: did that mean to you? And? Man? Everything you know, 732 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: being wanted and being in a position to where you 733 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: can go somewhere and feel you know, at home, and 734 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: people make you feel good and when you can contribute 735 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: to a team. I feel like this is a huge 736 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: It's a huge blessing and being around surrounded by players 737 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: that I know too makes me feel good and comfortable. 738 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: So I'm just blessed to be here, all right. So 739 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: who are some of the guys you know already? Cool 740 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: the Sun, some of them boys on defense, you know. 741 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: So you know I played against you obviously you guys here. Yeah, 742 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: so I feel like, you know, the SEC is all 743 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: around the league. So I got a few familiar faces. 744 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: So he said, you know, Cooping and Deshan, how did 745 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: you cultivate those relationships? So Coops from where I'm from, okay, 746 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: and then the Sun I'm in him back um in La. 747 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: But um yesterday he was like one of the first 748 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: people to text text me, so that felt good too 749 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, man, I'm super excited to get 750 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: to work. Well, I know he's excited as well. What 751 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: was that tax exchange? Just kind of being excited about 752 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: being here and being and being together, you know, and 753 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: just getting to work, you know. So I'm super excited 754 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: to be out there. I'm probably gonna link up with 755 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: him when I leave here, so you know, I'm ready 756 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: to get build that chemistry, which is great. And yeah, 757 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: we're certainly excited about that I know. Kevin Stefanski, our 758 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: head coach, very excited. He said, he called you yesterday. 759 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: I was at an event with him and he said that. 760 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: So all I can tell you is the guy was 761 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: very excited. So what was kind of that exchange like 762 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: getting to meet your head coaching and getting to share 763 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: with him your feelings. Yeah, man, it's just back and 764 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: forth excitement. You know. I think we're both super pumped 765 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: up about what he thinks I can bring and what 766 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: I know I can't bring here too. So I'm just 767 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: had to be a brown all right. So you're an 768 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: electric playmaker. You were in college, you were with the 769 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: Jets as well. You have an ability to beat man 770 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: coverage silly. Mark Cooper is one of the best in 771 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: the league against that too, So you're gonna get to 772 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: learn from of the best route runners. But that's one 773 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: of the things that is your calling card. If you 774 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: were to say to Browns fans, here's what you're getting, 775 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and Elijah Moore, what would it be 776 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: getting the doll You're getting someone who's the ultimate competitor. 777 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going I'm gonna play my heart at 778 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: every single game. I know I'm just be ready for whatever. 779 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: You know. What I'm saying, I want to win, you know, 780 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's the ultimate thing, you know, 781 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: is winning. So that's what I'm here to do. Fly 782 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: been in the league two years, You've played with a 783 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks, and hopefully for the Browns. Listen, we 784 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: had a history where we went through a lot of 785 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks as well, but hopefully now we've got one for 786 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: a very very long time in Deshan. When you talk 787 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: about getting to play with a guy that's led the 788 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: league in passing, that at one point had the highest 789 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: passer rating in NFL history, highest completion percentI in NFL history, 790 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? And what can you 791 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: guys kind of hopefully become together. You see my face, 792 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just be smiling like I'm not even sure 793 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: that it is. It feels surreal, you know. So I've 794 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: always all my life, I never really had like you 795 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: know and cott as I have Matt Krrell, you know, 796 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: and I was like kind of the best example of 797 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: what I had seen. And he's a great quarterback. But Desant, 798 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: I've been watching him since I was young. I'm saying, 799 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: Clemson and all everything that he's accomplished, So it's just 800 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: a huge he was besting to be a part of that. 801 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: And to know that, you know, you have a mari 802 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: from where you're from, somebody in his multiple time Pro 803 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: Bowl or multiple time thousand yards seasons in the league. 804 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: You know, is it nice to kind of have a 805 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: veteran like that that you're gonna be able to kind 806 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: of pick his brain as well. Yeah, I'm super excited 807 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: for that. And you also know Mike Harley Junior pretty well. Yeah, 808 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: so give a little bit of the background on that, 809 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: because he was a guy who came in, made real 810 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: impressions and undereft freedge and stayed on the practic squad 811 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: all year. But really you played a pretty big role 812 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: in his life. Yeah. Man, we went to high school together, 813 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: we went to Saint Thomas, Um. I got to see how, 814 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: you know, how he grew up, how hard he works, 815 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: and as he's another one as a very you know, 816 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: strong competitor as well, and I'm just excited to be 817 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: here with him and get to work. It's gonna be 818 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: a lot of funny. You got chance chato'shay our wide 819 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: receiver coach. How did that conversation go and we will. Man, 820 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: we all just kind of talking about how excited we 821 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: are just to see the smion and to be welcomed 822 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: by the open arms. Is this what I'm super excited about? Me? 823 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm super blessed to be in that position. I know 824 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: a lot was made about last year in New York 825 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: when at one point you were unhappy with what was 826 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: going on and you wanted to change in the new Well, 827 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: now you've gotten it, And I think people sometimes misunderstand 828 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: that right from what I've gathered sitting here with you 829 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: for a few minutes. You're a competitor. You want to 830 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,479 Speaker 1: be able to help your team win, and it's probably 831 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: frustrating when you feel like you weren't able to do that. 832 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: Now that you're in a place where that's not going 833 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: to be an issue, how exciting is that for the competitor? 834 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: And you know, and that we've got a lot of 835 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: pieces in here. We got a lot of guys who 836 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: have been to Pro Bowls and now we have a 837 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: special quarterback, special receiving class. We got a chance to 838 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: do some real good things. Man, It's all like I 839 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: asked for. You know, I'm literally just gonna be smiling, 840 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: you know, because I feel like a lot of people 841 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: aren't blessed to be in that position. You know. It's 842 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: all about kind of position that you fall into because 843 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: we don't get the twos all the time. So I'm 844 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: glad that I'm here. So all right, it's glad to 845 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: be a Brown. We're glad to have you. You're comfort 846 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: playing the axe, You're comfortable playing inside. What do you 847 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: like to do anything more than the other. It doesn't matter. 848 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm with it whatever the coaches see me, on with it. 849 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: Just wherever the ball's gonna Wherever the ball, I don't 850 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: want to be there. That's where you want to be. 851 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to know you a little bit 852 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: kind off the field. I see obviously some beautiful Travis 853 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: Scott's on your feet right there. You enjoy you enjoy sneakers. Yeah, 854 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm definitely sneaking. All right. What's what would you say? 855 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: What's your top one or two in your collection that 856 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: you liked the most. I'm like a doing fan. Yeah, 857 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: obviously you know what I'm saying, But I don't know. 858 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: I kind of work work my way toward towards you know, 859 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot of designer stuff too, as well. But my 860 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: favorite Jordan, now I have to say right now is 861 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: prior to Travis Scott Lowe's ones. Hum, those are lot 862 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: my favorite, but I just really got some some new 863 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: Air Force ones. You can't never go on with those. Um, 864 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of timeless classics. Yeah, it really is, 865 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: It really is. But I have a lot of sneakers, 866 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: so I don't know I would have to go through them. 867 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: I just like the I'm type of person I change 868 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: clothes like three or four times a day. So you're 869 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna be our photographer's best friend, not not trying to 870 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: wait it' I'm gonna be fresh for so you gonna 871 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: be bringing down What's something that you want Brown's fans 872 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: to know about you? Because it's one thing we can 873 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: all go and watch your tape and get very excited, 874 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, but to know who you are, what you 875 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: stand for. What's sometime when they see you, know more 876 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: on the back of your jersey that you want them 877 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: to be thinking about, not football. Relative Well, I'm first 878 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: and foremost. I know I'm a man of God, you 879 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm real, I'm real strong 880 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: in that I have really high faith and I just 881 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: want everyone to know that, you know, I'm walking in 882 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: faith and everything I do. I'm not a perfect person, 883 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: but I always want to impact the people around me 884 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: and do better and be better. So that's kind of 885 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: what I stand for, you know. Outside of this, I 886 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: try to move in a way of grace and and 887 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: being and being positive and everything. You's know what I'm saying. 888 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: Everybody goes through obstacles and feel like that's what life represents, 889 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: you know, not just only the obstacles obviously, the highs 890 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: and the lows, but just how to get through them. 891 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: That's what we're all here for. We need people, you know, 892 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: people need people. So I kind of want to be 893 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: that person that you know, someone can lean on as well. 894 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not perfect. I go 895 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: through things just like you do, you know, so I 896 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: just kind of want to set that example of being 897 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: that positive aspect of people's life. Yeah, it takes a 898 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: lot in a community, right and it is a community. 899 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what you're in probably from a 900 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: professional standpoint in the SEC, this is the closest thing 901 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: you're going to get to the SEC in terms of 902 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: football community. Cleveland the Dog Pound, all of that. You 903 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: got to feel some of the good of the Dog 904 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: Pound and maybe some of the last year in that 905 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: Week two game. We won't talk about that at all. 906 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: But when you know that you're going to go to 907 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: a place where you know down when you're going in 908 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: the sec and you got a game on Saturday, everybody 909 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: in the town's clock is set to that kick on Saturday. 910 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: That's how it is here on Sunday. It is that collegial, 911 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: it is that atmosphere. How exciting will that be for 912 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: you to kind of get in front of that passion 913 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: and feel that, Because I'm gonna tell you what, when 914 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: you go next time you're back here, you go anywhere 915 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: Browns fans are passionate, they will be. They are fired 916 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: up here here. You're probably seen on social media already, 917 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: but it's a passionate group. I mean, I'm super excited 918 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: about that, you know, And I saw someone could ask 919 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: for what I'm saying. You want to feel welcome, and 920 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best and you to bring what 921 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: I know I can't hear too. Make make sure everybody's 922 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: screaming and loud. Just make sure they're at the games. Oh, 923 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: they'll be at the games. Yeah, and I do you 924 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: even know what winning means in this town? They do? 925 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: You know what it will mean for these people? Not yet? 926 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: Well you're gonna bring it here, right, that's why you're here. 927 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: We couldn't be happier to have you here. Welcome to 928 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: the Browns and excited to see it and get on 929 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: the field, get to work. It's the we tell all 930 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: the it's the most sec like environment in the in 931 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: the right from the bobish a playbook, right for that 932 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: whole line of that discussion. Well, that's it. That's it's 933 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: it's an apples to apples. There aren't that many places 934 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: in the league. There's probably less than ten, I would 935 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: say to kind of have that feel to it, and 936 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: this is one of them. So yeah, you this is 937 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be special. And uh, it's pretty thrilling 938 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: to be able to get a player like that. Look 939 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: at Tequila Fila, Oh my god, is he following? I 940 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: don't know, but he looks so happy and look at 941 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: him to love about him. It's fantastic. We get there 942 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: similar but not looks like a West Virginia lid. Yeah, 943 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: what what that's about? That's a that they wore those 944 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: this year. That's a throwback. It's actually a nice liid. 945 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: It's a gorgeous lid. I'm guessing there's something to do 946 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: with that. Rich Somini will join us. Coming up next, 947 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: we'll go around the league. Josh Dobbs in studio with 948 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: us in the second hour as well. 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We're 958 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: joins by ESPN NFL Nation Jets reporter Rich Tomini joining 959 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: us there on the hotline. Great friend of the program, Rich, 960 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking the time. Of course, we're 961 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: having this conversation. We'd love to do it any day, 962 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: but timely because Elijah Moore was here in the building. 963 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: That trade got worked out yesterday afternoon. What can you 964 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: tell us about Elijah Moore in terms of the years 965 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: that he was in New York and your dealings with him. Yeah, 966 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: Elijah had a very interesting stay in New York. Obviously 967 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: a very high draft pick, top of the second round. 968 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: The Jets were overjoyed that they got him that. You know, 969 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: they had him rated as a late first rounder. They 970 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: got him in the second. He had a promising rookie 971 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,959 Speaker 1: year that ended with an injury, but they were still 972 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: He was considered one of their foundational guys. When you 973 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: mentioned the guys that they wanted to build around, he 974 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: was one of the names that always came up. And 975 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: then last year everything kind of went off the rails. 976 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: He got off to a really slow start. He was 977 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: not seeing the ball at all. I mean, the guy 978 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: was no targets early in the year, and he had 979 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: a blow up at practice one day with the offensive coordinator, 980 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: sent was sent home, was bench that week, did not play, 981 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's a trade request, and 982 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: so I think the Browns are getting a talented player 983 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: with two years remaining on his contract at a very 984 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: affordable contract, a guy who was just really disgruntled in 985 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: New York and was just looking for a change of scenery, 986 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: and the Jets granted him his wish. Yeah, it's going back. 987 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: And we just went through those final six games of 988 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: his rookie year or five touchdowns in those games, one 989 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 1: hundred yard game, was catching about six passes a game 990 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: and was so productive. How did it go from that 991 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: to what happened at the beginning of last year. Yeah, 992 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: if you look closely at those games in his rookie year, 993 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: most of that came when Zach Wilson was not in 994 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: the lineup. That's right. He had you know, he had 995 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: some Joe Flacco in there, he had some Mike White, 996 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: even had some Johnson the third the fourth stringer at 997 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: the particular time. So he just did not have chemistry 998 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: with Zack Wilson. And then this particular he started off, 999 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: he was like the first two games, he was like okay, 1000 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: he had a couple of catches, a few catches, and 1001 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: then eventually just disappeared. And when Wilson was in the lineup, 1002 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: he was not seeing the ball. It was like he 1003 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: was invisible. He was out there, he was playing, but 1004 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: he was just invisible, and many of us in the 1005 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: media thought that his issues were with Wilson. But you know, 1006 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: obviously Wilson got benched later of the year, and you know, 1007 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: Elijah's production got a little bit better, not much, so 1008 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: we thought once Wilson, obviously Wilson's out of the picture. 1009 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna get Aaron Rodgers. So we thought that 1010 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: that would probably appease Elijah more, but evidently not. He 1011 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: just wants to get out. He wanted to get out. Yeah, 1012 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: it was interesting to see in the reaction. So even 1013 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: though he may have been upset, it felt like he 1014 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: certainly had the respect of his teammates and obviously the 1015 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: offensive rookie of the year, Garrett Wilson, who tweeted out 1016 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: no yesterday, which I saw that you retweeted. So I 1017 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: got a chance talk to him today, Elijah, and you know, 1018 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 1: it seemed like a very good guy, very excited, a competitor, 1019 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: want and very happy to be here. But it seemed 1020 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: like he was pretty well liked by his teammates despite 1021 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: things maybe not going the way that he wanted on 1022 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: the field. Is that fair, Yeah, that's pretty fair. You 1023 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: know the guy. He is a talented player, and I 1024 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: think they respected that he did work hard at it. 1025 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: He just got really, really emotional and caught up in 1026 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: what was going on last year, and his timing was bad. 1027 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he came out publicly and requested a trade 1028 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: request after the Jets had their arguably one of their 1029 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: biggest wins of the year. You know, they were on 1030 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: a three game winning streak, they beat the Packers, and 1031 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: he comes out and requested trade. So his time stunk. 1032 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: It was selfish to do that, and I think there 1033 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: was some teammates that were surprised by that. Eventually they 1034 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: embraced him, and I think they kind of empathized with 1035 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: him that he was not getting the ball. And the 1036 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: thing to know about Elijah, he has a good guy. 1037 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: I've had good dealings with. He is extremely close to 1038 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: AJ Brown. They are practically brothers that you know from 1039 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: Old miss and they do everything together. They talk constantly, 1040 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 1: several times a day. And so I think he saw 1041 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: Aj get that trade at a Tennessee, get that massive 1042 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: contract and just have so much success with Jalen Hurtz 1043 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and I think he said I got to 1044 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: he wants to do the same. He goes, I gotta 1045 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: get out of New York. I just don't see it 1046 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: happening for me here, and so I think that probably 1047 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 1: factored into his thinking as well. Rich for our fans 1048 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: who haven't seen him at his best, what is he 1049 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: at his best? What type of player is he? What 1050 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: is he bringing to this offense. He's a really good 1051 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: route runner extress, especially at the top of his routes. 1052 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: He's able to create separation. I think he works hard 1053 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: on it. He's just got a natural feel for that. 1054 00:49:54,600 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: He's explosive, he accelerates quickly. He U. I mean I 1055 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: could I have as we're talking about him. I have 1056 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: vivid memories of his first training camp as a rookie. 1057 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: I had people in the Jets front office tell me 1058 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: that he was the best player on the field. I mean, 1059 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: he was unbelievable as a rookie in mini camp and 1060 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: in training camp. And then once he got to get 1061 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: a little slow start as a rookie, a couple of 1062 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: growing pains, but then he caught, you know, caught his 1063 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: stride around mid season and he was fantastic. I mean, 1064 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: the Jets thought this guy was a legitimate star, and 1065 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: things just went south in a hurry, you know, production 1066 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: went down, attitude went down, and in finally they just 1067 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: said that that's enough is enough. But he's a fabulous 1068 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: route runner. He's better out of the slot. The Jets 1069 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: initially played him as their ex receiver. They were trying 1070 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: to make him an outside receiver, and then last year 1071 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: about midway through the year, they moved him back to 1072 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: the slot. I think he's much more productive in the slot. 1073 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: So I don't know where Cleveland is thinking of him, 1074 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: but that's where he's best. Yeah, I don't think that's 1075 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: where he would line up with Amari Cooper and Donovan 1076 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: People's Jones on the outside and Elijah on the inside. 1077 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: But he's got that versiliya right. He brings a speed 1078 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: element that we don't have, an explosiveness that the Browns 1079 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: certainly were lacking. But Rich, I gotta ask you the 1080 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: hard questions here. Is this the most that you have 1081 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: talked in an interview in the last few weeks without 1082 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: it being all about Aaron Rodgers, who I don't Yeah, 1083 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: that's so. Yeah. We set the record there with no 1084 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: a rod Nice for a while. But you know, I 1085 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: was surprised by the trade. I mean, we were we thought, 1086 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, sure we heard the rumors, you know, they've 1087 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: been going on since last year. But I just thought 1088 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: with Rogers presumably coming in and a fresh start, a 1089 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, we thought that it was a Michael 1090 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: la Floor issue as well, because when when Elijah had 1091 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: his blow up at practice, which was at a character 1092 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: for him because he's a very mild mannered guy, he 1093 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: just blew up the practice and you know, told them 1094 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: to you know, I can't say the language, but told 1095 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 1: them to basically take a hike and so many words. 1096 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: And so that's when they sent them home. And so 1097 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: we thought a lot of the issue was Lafloor. Evidently not, 1098 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I guess the Rodgers the appeal of 1099 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: playing with Aaron Rodgers did not satisfy Elijah's desire to 1100 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: stay in New York. Is that where are they with that? 1101 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, let's we might as well just have that 1102 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit here, Rich. Is that is it 1103 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: something that there's pressure to be done soon or does 1104 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: this deal perhaps allow for it to be easier done 1105 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: with that second round pickhead of the Jets way, Yeah, 1106 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: there's no question the chance to get back a second 1107 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: round pick was the Rodgers deal definitely played into it. 1108 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: So now they have two second rounders, forty two and 1109 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: forty three, and they clearly do not want to send 1110 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: their first rounder to Green Bay. That's that's the major 1111 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 1: sticking point in the compensation talks. So now they have 1112 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: two second rounders, if they have to deal one of 1113 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: them to Green Bay, then they still have a pick 1114 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: in the second round. And so I think that was 1115 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: a big part of what they did with this Elijah 1116 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: Moore trade. Maybe he would have gotten traded anyway. I 1117 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: just think this was a chance to satisfy compensation need 1118 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: to make this Rogers trade happen. And that's with the 1119 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 1: timeline you know, which you asked about. There's really no 1120 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: sense of urgency until the draft. So they two sides. 1121 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll meet at the owners meetings coming up 1122 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: in Phoenix next week. You know, they'll be in the 1123 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: same place that you would think that they would get together, 1124 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: but not until I could see it go into the 1125 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: week of the draft, and by then then the pressure 1126 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: shifts to green Bay. Certainly you would want to get 1127 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: some twenty twenty three draft picks out of this, So 1128 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: that's when the pressure will really be on Green Bay 1129 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: to do a deal for now, though there's no real 1130 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: pressure on either team wild to just because it's it 1131 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: almost feels like it's it's done, but it's just but 1132 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: it's not. So that's just hanging over everybody a little bit. 1133 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: It is hanging over everybody. And this is a Jets 1134 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 1: team now that obviously feels like it can compete for 1135 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with bringing in Aaron Rodgers once that 1136 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: actually does get done. But rich, are you curious, just 1137 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: given everything that we've kind of seen from Aaron Rodgers 1138 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: and how it's been kind of with the media that 1139 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: he's doing McAfee, that just Aaron Rodgers in New York 1140 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 1: is going to be a pretty incredible experiment, at least 1141 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: from the outside. It certainly feels that way. Yeah, I mean, 1142 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: it won't be any more of a circus than Tim 1143 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: Tebow was when he came in twenty twelve. And I 1144 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: mean it's almost lappable to mention Tebow and Rodgers. You know, 1145 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: we're but in terms of quarterbacking, obviously no comparison, But 1146 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 1: in terms of start power, definitely a comparison. Tebow was massive, 1147 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: and that was a circus and the Jet did mishandle that. 1148 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: I think I think they've probably learned some lessons from that. 1149 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: It's a different group of people here now and they 1150 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: probably will have a better handle on it with Rodgers. 1151 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: But Rodgers, look, he is then skinned, obviously, you can 1152 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: see it in those McAfee interviews. Some media or ports 1153 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: definitely get under his skin. But he's a very smart 1154 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: guy and I think he'll do fine with the media, 1155 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 1: the sports media now the other stuff like TMZ or 1156 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: you know, paparazzi following him around if he goes to 1157 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: a Broadway show with his girlfriend. I mean, that's a 1158 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: different story, you know that he never experienced in Green Bay. 1159 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's eight million people in New York with 1160 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: cell phone cameras, so I mean everyone's everyone's a sports photojournalist, 1161 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: you know. So you know, yeah, that could be an 1162 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: issue for him, but I think, like the day to 1163 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: day dealings with US, I don't think it'll be much 1164 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 1: of a problem. Rich great stuff has always really appreciate 1165 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: your expertise. Today, thanks for joining us. Yeah, you're welcome. 1166 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,800 Speaker 1: Have a good one, guys. All right, that's Rich Samini, 1167 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Nation Jets reporter on the Twisted T Hotline 1168 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: brought you a Twisted T, hard iced T, official sponsor 1169 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it twisted, Cleveland. I'm sure 1170 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: you saw this when you saw Ben Axirod push this 1171 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: out as well. Last year, Elijah Moore sixty six targets. 1172 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: Thirty six of those targets were deemed catchable. He had 1173 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: thirty seven catches on those. Yeah, he doesn't drop the ball. 1174 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: Thing that's in the vicinity, including one that wasn't he caught. 1175 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: He caught. So that's that's a good thing. One of 1176 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: the guy would certainly be thrown in the balls a 1177 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: little bit. It's Josh Dobbs. He's back. We're thrilled that 1178 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: he's back. He's gonna join us some studio here coming 1179 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: up next. She listen to Cleveland Browns Daily brought you 1180 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: by bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty 1181 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, 1182 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland, All right, 1183 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: welcome back here to Cleland Rons Daily brought you by 1184 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio on a fifty ESPN. 1185 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland joined now in studio, our new quarterback, Josh Dobbs, 1186 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: new old quarterback back. You know, it's twenty back. I 1187 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: was telling we were telling you off air last week. 1188 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: It was around this time when we were kind of 1189 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: going through the roster. Woke it into existence and one 1190 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: of the things we said, we're like, what would be 1191 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: great to have a great backup in here, and we 1192 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: both go it would Josh gotta have more jobs, but 1193 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: get it like the Cowbut and now you're here, man, 1194 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: how did it come about? And welcome back, by the way, 1195 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: It's great to be back, you know. Obviously had a 1196 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: little roundabout way to end the season. It was a 1197 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Really embraced opportunity down to Tennessee and enjoyed. Shoot, 1198 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: the couple of weeks I was down there. Um, but man, 1199 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: I got so much great support for Cleveland, even from 1200 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: when I ended up leaving towards the end of last season, 1201 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: from the coaching staff, ab like leading up to those 1202 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: two starts, Um, obviously they're highly publicized and just getting 1203 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: like the support like Costefanski, ABP A B. They're texting 1204 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: me before and after the game, like tuning in and everything. 1205 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: So it was good to have the support. And then obviously, 1206 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, being here last year, like the relationships had 1207 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: been established. So going to free agency this year when 1208 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: to see the opportunities on the field, we also won 1209 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: to go somewhere where they wanted me to be there, right, 1210 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: and I felt like I could contribute to the room 1211 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: and it felt really comfortable with the scheme and so 1212 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: had some great conversations with coach Dapanski with a B 1213 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: and it all worked out. I'm glad to be bad. 1214 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: So we were shocked obviously when things went down. You 1215 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: had this tremendous preseason. You looked great. It looked like 1216 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: you would be the natural guy that we would keep 1217 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: in this program forever. Now it may ultimately end up 1218 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: working out that way, and the good news is is 1219 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: you've got to go and play in a playoff game 1220 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: and get starts, which you wouldn't have gotten had you 1221 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 1: been here. But a wild thing, and I think a 1222 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: lot of it was, like I said, we were shocked. 1223 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were probably a little bit surprised at 1224 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: the time as well. How are you able to kind 1225 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: of overcome that that sting and say, you know what, 1226 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: like let's do this again, because it's it is the 1227 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 1: right place for all of us to be without doubt. 1228 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, obviously I understand, you know, there's a lot 1229 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: of emotions and football sputsween poor and a lot of time, 1230 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, I was shocked. But the communication, I'll be honest, 1231 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: was tremendous. You know, a lot of times players get 1232 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: blindsided by things and the communication is is tough, and 1233 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: that can leave some sore feelings between the player and 1234 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: the organization. But they did get the front office a 1235 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: great job communicating throughout it. And for me, you know, 1236 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: looking at exactly what you said, you know, I when 1237 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity go out and play, and that opportunity was 1238 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: on the board um last year, given the circumstance, I 1239 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: was going to take take the opportunity and run with 1240 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: it and ended up working out. We were talking about 1241 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: in the break, It's like, obviously I didn't know how 1242 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,439 Speaker 1: it was going to work out, but hindsight twenty twenty, 1243 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, it worked out for the best to get 1244 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: that experience and so but no, the communication was great 1245 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: and that's what ultimately led to being able to come 1246 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: back and feeling really excited about being back here in Cleveland. 1247 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: Did that validate to you that yes, you can do this, 1248 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: because I mean the last time you started a game 1249 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: was in college. Yeah, I wouldn't say validated because I've 1250 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: always been aware and every time, you know, when you 1251 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: back up big been for five years, it can always 1252 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: it can be a little difficult to get the opportunities right. 1253 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: But every time I've been thrown on the field, no 1254 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: matter the circumstance, I've always excelled, So expectations are really high. 1255 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: It was fun to get out and compete, man, Like 1256 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: there's some times exactly I appreciate it. It was it 1257 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: was fun. It was so much fun. Obviously whish the 1258 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: outcome changed up a little different. And we all know 1259 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: how football it is, man, It's a game. It's a 1260 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: game of inches, game a couple of plays. We were 1261 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: talking about it, about the details that go into it. 1262 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: So looking back on and you know, I know ways 1263 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: that I can personally improve, which is really exciting to 1264 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: be able to dive into that and be able to 1265 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: talk with a VP and Kevin the room and hit 1266 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: the ground running here in Cleveland. It is a way though, 1267 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 1: of knowing that your process works because you certainly you 1268 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: believe in your ability, But then there aren't those opportunities 1269 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: and then when one comes and you're Okay, I have 1270 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: been doing it right. I believe in my abilities. I 1271 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: had my abilities, but also my preparedness is there. My 1272 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,919 Speaker 1: ability to be a pro is there. That is something 1273 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: that I'm sure the entire league takes notice of, and 1274 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: obviously we did and can't wait to have now now 1275 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: that you're back in the mix. But that had to 1276 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: be good validate. I know that's a word that sometimes 1277 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: people worry about because I always believe in myself as 1278 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: the idea. But there's that proof that everything you were doing, 1279 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: everything you've done, it works that that that was a 1280 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: great feeling, you know, just the preparation right. So many 1281 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: times I'll always tell people sometimes you play the quarterback quisition. 1282 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: If you're not the starter every week, you know, it's 1283 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 1: like you got to take a test at some point 1284 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: throughout the year, and you got to prepare for that 1285 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: test every week. You just don't know where you're gonna 1286 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: take it. So to be able to go out and 1287 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 1: um excel and play at a high level. I mean, 1288 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: so I was I was in the Jacksonville game, like 1289 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: catching the ball, knowing exactly what coverage they were going 1290 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: to be and that's through the preparation and those banked reps. 1291 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: So watching it UM, whether it's you know, talking about 1292 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: it to the guy that's currently on the field or 1293 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: now in those situations being able to be that guy 1294 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: on the field and UM really reaping the benefits of 1295 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: your preparation. It felt really good. What's kind of been 1296 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: the response from your teammates when when you knew you 1297 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: said I'm coming back. Yeah, it's been cool. It's been fun, 1298 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Like just seeing like the text messages UM from different 1299 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: guys that have different relationships with like Chubb send me 1300 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: just like a batman of Mulji right on, I send 1301 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: it back like an astronaut. Way you've been at them, 1302 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's been cool. I'm excited. I'm excited like 1303 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: a lot of familiar faces and like throughout the offseason, 1304 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 1: just it's a small circle and we all take the 1305 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: same trip, so we see each other a lot outside 1306 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: of ball and it's been cool. I see a lot 1307 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: of guys out of Super Bowl, was able to catch 1308 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: up with them at various NFLPA events as well. So 1309 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: to come back into locker room where you know so 1310 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: many guys, you have a great connection with a lot 1311 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: of the guys. I'm excited. I'm excited to get back 1312 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: to work with everyone. Can you take us, you know, 1313 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: one of the things we're very much looking forward to. 1314 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: And we you know, with Elijah Moore in the mix, now, 1315 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: like you could we did a heck, we did a 1316 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: fifty three. We're like, man, we could go. We we 1317 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: got a team we could put on the field now. 1318 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: But uh, you you were in the building, you were 1319 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: in those rooms last year through camp when we were 1320 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: dealing with all that stuff with DaShan and the uncertainty 1321 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: around it. When you think of the amount of curveballs 1322 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: that were thrown, this organization's way, this coaching staff's way, 1323 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: as you look back on that, what comes to mind 1324 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: on how all of that was. I think like such 1325 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: a good foundation in the midst of all that was 1326 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: still built. And that's what it was extremely impressive. You know, 1327 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: we're just talking to a VP. You know, it's like 1328 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: last year, this time, you at three quarterbacks show up 1329 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 1: that haven't been in the scheme, that didn't really know 1330 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: each other, and like you have to go win games 1331 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: with that room, right and you have to get all 1332 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: three of them ready to play. And so this year, 1333 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: I think like the steps that as a team that 1334 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 1: we are head from last year at this point are 1335 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: were tremendously ahead, just because at the quarterback position, you 1336 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: guys that now all played in the system feel extremely 1337 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: comfortable with the system, and then you've ad added some 1338 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 1: really good pieces around them to really make this thing go, 1339 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 1: and we know the type of players we have on 1340 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: defense as well. It's been really it's been really cool 1341 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: to see it come together, and it's gonna be a 1342 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: great year to try to give people an idea of 1343 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned the details earlier and how those details are 1344 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: built kind of brick by bricklay the foundation of the 1345 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: offense and what it's going to be, and then we 1346 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: can feather in and get more advanced as we go 1347 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: through a full season. Last year, the Browns had to 1348 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: do that almost on parallel paths because of the situation 1349 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: with Jacobe and Deshaun and the difference in their skill sets. 1350 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Now that you have an off season where you guys 1351 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to go on one path, how 1352 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: much different is that? Actually, it's it's it's it's different 1353 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: because you know you, I mean you just like there's 1354 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: no uncertainty, like last year, like we all knew, like 1355 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: there's just uncertainty given the situation, right, Um, just a 1356 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: ton of variables that you couldn't really control. This year, 1357 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: like all the variables are in our control. And so 1358 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 1: when we get back to work and OTAs and we're 1359 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: staying in the film room, you know, we're not learning formations. 1360 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, we're not learning like, oh, which footwork peers 1361 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: up with this route? It's talking ball and scheme and okay, 1362 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 1: like we're attacking. We're thinking about this coverage. How do 1363 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 1: exactly do we want to attack it? And what details 1364 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: can we go straight to the receivers now that we've 1365 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: all now that we've been in this system and tell 1366 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 1: them like, hey, this is what we're looking for from 1367 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: the QP position, from this route, and like just those 1368 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: higher level conversations and starting those earlier in the process, 1369 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: the team building process will only allow us to hit 1370 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: the ground running here in April and really like for 1371 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: us to have like the ultimate highest potential once the 1372 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: season comes around. Your job is unique one, right because 1373 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: your job is to be ready if something were to happen. 1374 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: And another part of your job is to make sure 1375 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: that that the guy who You're back up is there? 1376 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 1: So you have to support And anybody listened to Josh 1377 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Job's talk and say like, well, whenever this is done, 1378 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: you can be a coach, general manager, you can share 1379 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 1: those things like that. It feels like, um, but but 1380 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 1: when you think about one thing that we're all curious 1381 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: about is and you were around to Shan more than 1382 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 1: anybody else around here. Um. When you when you think 1383 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 1: about what he can be and what you've seen from him, 1384 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: and we've heard him talk about some of the frustration 1385 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: and the rust that he was trying to knock off 1386 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: last season, what do you expect him to be at 1387 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 1: at his best here? I think I think, you know, really, 1388 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 1: this guy's a limb and he'll get back to you know. 1389 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,919 Speaker 1: I mean he led the league in passing a couple 1390 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 1: of years ago, right, And that's the player we all 1391 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: know he can be. That's the player he expects himself 1392 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 1: to be just being around him. And we have a 1393 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 1: great relationship both growing up in Atlanta. Should we did 1394 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: the whole quarterback circuit? He's a you're behind me coming out? 1395 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: But should we did it? Step in, step out? Since 1396 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 1: high school, so we've seen a lot of the same experiences, 1397 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: and I think that plays really plays into it, like 1398 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: we're able to go in a room and just be 1399 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: yourself right and not feel like you're stepping on any toes, 1400 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 1: have a great relationship in Cromaradie. That's really important in 1401 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the QB rooms because it's so such a fraud. It 1402 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 1: can be such a fraudful room sometimes with obviously qbs 1403 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: can have some egos sometimes, but in our room, like 1404 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 1: we don't, and that's what's really exciting. That's what was 1405 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: very exciting for me to want to come back right 1406 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: to be in that environment, be around people, enjoy spending 1407 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: time with and talk ball and push each other to 1408 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,439 Speaker 1: be the best players we can be. And you gotta 1409 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: be excited as well. There's going to be an evolution. 1410 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 1: There always is. If you say the same, you're not 1411 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: moving forward and what this offense is, and it's probably 1412 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a little more quarterback centric would be a 1413 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 1: way to say it. And that's probably got to be 1414 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: a lot of fun for you to kind of see 1415 01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 1: how those changes evolved and help prepare yourself for now. 1416 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: And he's probably gonna be in the shotgun. We're probably 1417 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: gonna be throwing the ball a lot higher frequency than 1418 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: we did a year ago. And so is that kind 1419 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: of a fun thing when you know that you're coming 1420 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: back and it's gonna be the same, but it's gonna 1421 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: be different in a way that is certainly slanted towards 1422 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: your position without a doubt, and I think it's really 1423 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: slanted to both of our skill sets. Is what's really exciting. 1424 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: So just to be out there and are really running 1425 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 1: in the show, helping the sean run the show, it's 1426 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. As we know, like 1427 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: the ultimate name of the game is get the balling 1428 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: or playmaker's hands. And with the new editions such as 1429 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: like yesterday and the guys that have already established here 1430 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: that we all know and love, man like getting the 1431 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: balls in those guys hands using our skills set, it'll 1432 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 1: be fun. So I want to follow up on one 1433 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: thing that you said when we were talking off air, 1434 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: and just that you know there are certain places that 1435 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: have schemes, right, They're certain place that pounds sounds like 1436 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: that don't have schemes, and then there are other places 1437 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: where they really try to tailor whatever it is and 1438 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: we'll call it a Frankenstein to their players. Yeah, as 1439 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: you've kind of observed the way things are done in 1440 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: the n FELL, I don't know. I'm sure they can 1441 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: all work, and they have, but you know, what do 1442 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: you kind of like to see and this is this 1443 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 1: a place that feels very collaborative from that standpoint, I think, 1444 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest success I've seen is is one, 1445 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: schemes that give the quarterback options right where no matter 1446 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 1: what the defense throws you, you know where you can 1447 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 1: possibly go with the football. And two the ones that 1448 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: put the right players in the right positions to accentuate 1449 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: their skill sets. And that's what we do here, and 1450 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 1: that's what's extremely exciting. You know, every play we have 1451 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 1: an option, right. We know, like they give us discoverage, 1452 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: we're going here, they give us dis pressure, we're going here, 1453 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: and we get some weird coverage here, here's our outlet. 1454 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 1: And then also we know if we get one on ones, 1455 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 1: like the guys are running the routes that they are 1456 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 1: built to run, you know, whether it's in the slot, 1457 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: get running choice routes, outside running individual cuts. You know, 1458 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: there's there's so many answers in this offense. That's what 1459 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: makes it fun at quarterback because you seldom, seldomly catch 1460 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 1: the ball and then are figuring out where you're throwing 1461 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,560 Speaker 1: the ball. You know the balls in the air or 1462 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,839 Speaker 1: you're going your pre snap process and you know exactly 1463 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: where the ball is most likely going to go. And 1464 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,600 Speaker 1: then if something changes right, you have an outlet, a 1465 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,560 Speaker 1: way to get out of dodge. So that's why I 1466 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,639 Speaker 1: enjoy That's why I've enjoyed like over the past year, 1467 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: like being in the scheme, learning this scheme for the 1468 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 1: first time, then getting a chance to play in it 1469 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,879 Speaker 1: both here and then in some games down in Tennessee, 1470 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: because it's very similar down there, per se. So just 1471 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: to be able to hit the ground running and have 1472 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: that level of comfort going to year two of the 1473 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: scheme will be a lot of fun. It's great, it's cool. 1474 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: So last time we were at this meet the coaches 1475 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,799 Speaker 1: venta and one of the things that came up somebody 1476 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 1: asked from the audience, want to know about you know, 1477 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: audibles and coach and a VPS. It's something that I 1478 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 1: found very illuminating, which is most times most of the 1479 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: plays are called with two plays, and so when they 1480 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: go to the line of scrimmage, it could be if 1481 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 1: it's a run play. It could be based on the 1482 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: way that the front is lined up. But you know, 1483 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: if it's an overfront, I it's an underfront, then we 1484 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 1: can can it, as he says, and go to the 1485 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,679 Speaker 1: other play. Could be two passes, could be a pass 1486 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 1: and a run that you change. So there is a 1487 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 1: lot In some schemes they say the quarterbacks pronsile for 1488 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: everything right, setting all the protections to it, and other 1489 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: schemes like in ours, you know that happens with the line, 1490 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 1: but still the quarterback ultimately has the chalk, as they 1491 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 1: say at the end. But I don't think do people 1492 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: realize how much freedom actually the quarterback actually is kind 1493 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: of instrumental and what it is now they are rules 1494 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and their answers, so that for sure it's guided there. 1495 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: But you'll get a play set of plays, and then 1496 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 1: based on what you see, you're gonna say this is 1497 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the right play for this situation, which I think is 1498 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: the best way to do it. Man, Like that's why 1499 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 1: you get a play. You have forty seconds. And I think, 1500 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, some schemes I've been in have been like 1501 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,280 Speaker 1: hey call whatever, and I think, like, yes, you know, 1502 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 1: we all love playing Madden, but but you know when 1503 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 1: you're out there and now you're getting hit, and now 1504 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 1: you're under a true play clock, and now you know 1505 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 1: you have fatigue from running or fatigue from you know, 1506 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 1: just being playing a game. Right, you know, you can 1507 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 1: really handcuff yourself. So in offenses where you have direction 1508 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: and where you have a scheme a system, and you 1509 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 1: say like, hey, like I'm calling these two plays. They 1510 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 1: both were to do two completely different things based on 1511 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 1: what the defense is giving giving us. Now it's your 1512 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: job as a quarterback to put us in the right 1513 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: option of plays. That's when there's a great framework, you know, 1514 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,679 Speaker 1: because now you know the coaches are providing a plan 1515 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 1: that's preparing you to go out to play at a 1516 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 1: high level. Now as a quarterback, there's a plan in 1517 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 1: place and you're able to go execute it based on 1518 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: the defense shows you. You know so, and that's and 1519 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 1: that's true football, right. It's it's a game of chess. 1520 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Game of chess, that's exactly what you're playing out there. 1521 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: But you're but you're you're set up to make the 1522 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 1: right moves, right. You're not just out there just moving 1523 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: pawns and pieces will you nearly hoping they work and 1524 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: you get a checkmate. No, you're making strategic moves throughout 1525 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: the game to win the game. This is great, man, awesome, 1526 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. Glad to be back number one 1527 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: on the witch list. It's great to have you back. 1528 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,439 Speaker 1: Josh Jobs, Brown's quarterback in studio with us to cleave 1529 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 1: the Browns. Dailey brought you by ballet Bet coming soon 1530 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 1: to Hio one a fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily 1531 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: brought to you by ballely Bet coming soon to Ohio 1532 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. One more. There you go. Um, 1533 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: so the Raiders give a or tell your telling. So 1534 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 1: last night Bryce Young at dinner with with Carolina Wednesday, 1535 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,879 Speaker 1: they had it with the race. I guess Kara's Josh McCowen, 1536 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 1: it's over. Yeah, it's about this. Yeah, I don't know, 1537 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: like if you well right now about in certain places 1538 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: only I could bring up a TV volume. What do 1539 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,600 Speaker 1: you got? Steve Smith interviewing Nick Saban right now at 1540 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 1: Alabama pros Day. Oh my, what could go wrong? There? Nothing? 1541 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Saving Will? He loves Steve Smith. Yeah, it's saving Will 1542 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: and Steve Smith will have such reverence for Sabin that 1543 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 1: that he'll that'll be a home run. Yeah, Saban knows 1544 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 1: how to navigate that. He'll he'll crush that. He'll absolutely 1545 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: crush it. Uh Yeah. So the Raiders met had dinner 1546 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: with Bryce Young Wednesday night. By the way, Bryce Young 1547 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: declined a way in at his pro day workout. Of 1548 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,560 Speaker 1: course not. He wasn't gonna do that. That's why he 1549 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 1: did it at the combines, so we didn't have to 1550 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 1: do it now. So we put on fake weight for 1551 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 1: the combine, which is also it is also just stupid 1552 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 1: shell game, Like he put on fake weight at the 1553 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,600 Speaker 1: Combine to be two hundred pounds and he took it 1554 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,640 Speaker 1: off because he can't play it that weight for his 1555 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Alabama pro day. The reality is if he's he's five 1556 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: ten and he's gonna play at five ten in cleats, 1557 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna be around six feet and about one hundred 1558 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 1: and seventy five hundred and eighty pounds. That's it. That's 1559 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 1: the list, Like anything else is just nonsense. So then 1560 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,479 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of are you okay with that? 1561 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Because from a execution standpoint, he's as good as anybody. 1562 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 1: He's better outside of pocket than Stroud, although Stroud is 1563 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 1: supreme in pocket and pretty good outside of pocket, and 1564 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: can make every single throw. Has proven not yesterday down 1565 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: in Columbus, but rather all season long. Or Lovsky had 1566 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: some fun with him today with some of his throws 1567 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 1: against Penn State. UM. So there's this narrative that it 1568 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,760 Speaker 1: was only in the Georgia game. Well, no, he had. 1569 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 1: He had plenty of throws in a lot of games 1570 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: where he handled his business. But yeah, like the notion 1571 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 1: that has his height and weight, like he's five six 1572 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 1: foot and cleats and he's one hundred and eighty pounds. 1573 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 1: That's the list. And I'm still trying to figure out 1574 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,599 Speaker 1: why the Raiders had dinner with him. The Raiders pick seven. 1575 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, he won't be there. I wouldn't think. 1576 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't move it up. I don't know what their 1577 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 1: assets they have to be able to move up to 1578 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 1: go get him. The first place you could move. I 1579 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: suppose what you say is if Arizona decides to make 1580 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 1: three available, that's where you do it. I mean, if 1581 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 1: he makes it that far. If right, well he might, 1582 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean Houston may say, we like Anthony Richardson, I 1583 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 1: don't mind the due diligence Arizona is available at three 1584 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: for trade if you're if you're the Raiders, if you 1585 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: want to go there, even trade into the third spot, 1586 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 1: just to make sure that no one usurps them if 1587 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,479 Speaker 1: they There was talk yesterday the Cardinals doing it what 1588 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: we could proposed for the Bears, which was to do 1589 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 1: it twice. Yeah, like trade out of three to four 1590 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and getting four and get a haul. Yeah. By the way, 1591 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure the Bronco is going to be 1592 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 1: trading Jerry Judy. Now kJ Hammler has suffered a torn 1593 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 1: peck working out. He's out at least four to six months. 1594 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 1: Four months. Maybe you're back at the start of the season, 1595 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,720 Speaker 1: six months missing a little time. That was a guy 1596 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 1: that was very impressive in college. That would have been 1597 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 1: a nice fit, it feels like, but it will be 1598 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,560 Speaker 1: if he hasn't really materialized yet. He was kind of 1599 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: disgruntled in Denver. We'll see how it works out for 1600 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 1: kJ Hammler. Yeah, talented player Penn State. So they had 1601 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,479 Speaker 1: him and Dotson the day. Were they ever out there together? 1602 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 1: They had to be right. Wasn't Hailer just one year 1603 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 1: ahead of him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep. But they 1604 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: never had This is always the problem. Well they do 1605 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: now they have the kid, the Drawraller kid from um 1606 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 1: he's Madinah. I believe they have him now, who's a 1607 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: five star kid out of Madinah. But they've never had 1608 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 1: the quarter This is the issue. It's the issue at 1609 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Penn State. It's the issue at Michigan. It's been the 1610 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 1: issue at Notre Dame. Like they just haven't had a 1611 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: pro at quarterback. The Penn State's fun. It's hard to 1612 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: get him to go there. Just is all of the 1613 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks go south other than Columbus. Yeah, they just do. 1614 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,640 Speaker 1: The five star quarterbacks go south. That's where they I mean, 1615 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Bryce Young's a California kid, you know, like that's just 1616 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 1: will you go. Does USC have a chance to get 1617 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,680 Speaker 1: back into getting elite people with Yeah, they're already doing it. Yeah. 1618 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean by getting Caleb Williams to transfer to Oklahoma, 1619 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: they landed. There's a kid behind him named Malachi Nelson 1620 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 1: who was the number one dual threat kid in last 1621 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: year's class. And they're probably they're gonna be a very 1622 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,600 Speaker 1: shortlist for Dylan Royola, who's a number one player in 1623 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: two years at quarterback, who was previously committed to High State. 1624 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're going to be a factory going forward. 1625 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 1: They will come into the Big Ten in two years 1626 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 1: and fully loaded. Yeah, they'll be fully loaded by the 1627 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: time they get there. What are they in the opposite division? 1628 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 1: They're not gonna do divisions, They're gonna go divisionless. And 1629 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 1: there's three options they're working on. You're either going to 1630 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 1: do you will have either three teams you play every year. 1631 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 1: So for Ohio State, it would be my Hunches, it 1632 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 1: would be Michigan. Penn State, and Michigan State would be 1633 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: the three teams that they would want to play every year. 1634 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,640 Speaker 1: Now that would be Wisconsins would be Iowa, Nebraska, and 1635 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,640 Speaker 1: probably Minnesota. That's what theirs would be. And then the 1636 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: other option is two. So in that instance, so highest 1637 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 1: States would be Penn State and Michigan and then you 1638 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,360 Speaker 1: rotate everybody else you see them twice over a four 1639 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 1: year period. And then the other one is kind of 1640 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 1: an imbalanced where you're like, some teams play three teams 1641 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 1: all the time and some teams play one because there 1642 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 1: aren't true rivals. The problem is, how do you find 1643 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,560 Speaker 1: three teams that Rutgers has to play every year? You 1644 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,160 Speaker 1: you know so, And the same is true with like 1645 01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: USC and UCLA, like on the three teams that they 1646 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: have to play every how are you going to legislate 1647 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: who you the three teams? USC has to play every year, 1648 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 1: they have to play UCLA. But then who are the two? 1649 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 1: If the question becomes do you want that? Do you 1650 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: want like Ohio State, Michigan and USC playing each other 1651 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 1: or every single year? You don't know, because what you 1652 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 1: want is you have three television windows that have to 1653 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,719 Speaker 1: be filled. So you've got a noon window on Fox, 1654 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 1: You've got a three thirty window on CBS and the 1655 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: new television deal, and you have an eight o'clock deal 1656 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: on one of them, So you need one of those too. 1657 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,840 Speaker 1: Buoy to lift every single window. You need Ohio State 1658 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 1: at noon, Michigan at three thirty, USC at eight. Isn't 1659 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: this good? Isn't this a good reason to bring Callen 1660 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,720 Speaker 1: Stanford into the Big ten as well? Not right now? 1661 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: Not right now, it's not because they're honestly, like from 1662 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 1: that perspective, they'd be better off with Oregon and Washington. Yeah, 1663 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,679 Speaker 1: I think the pactol is going to survive. They're gonna 1664 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a short deal. It's gonna be the 1665 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Pac ten. It'll be a short deal, probably a three 1666 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 1: to five year window. It won't be as much as 1667 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not gonna be. It'll probably be the 1668 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,680 Speaker 1: lowest per year of any of the Power five conferences. 1669 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 1: But it allow them to survive for five years. The 1670 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 1: key thing to watch on that is are they willing 1671 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 1: to go If they go all streaming, it'll be an 1672 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: incredible mistake in my view. I think they'll be then 1673 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,080 Speaker 1: broadcasting in closets. Yea. So it's really important that they 1674 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 1: still have a network partner of some sort. Do you 1675 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 1: think so? Then if that is the way that they 1676 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 1: go the Big Ten Championship, then you could get them 1677 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 1: because right now you can't get an Ohio State Michigan 1678 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship. So now now you could, you could 1679 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 1: get a high state Michigan get It'll just be the 1680 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: top two teams. They'll take the top two teams. So, 1681 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 1: by the way, the SEC is going to do this 1682 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 1: as well when they had Texas and Oklahoma. They're getting 1683 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,879 Speaker 1: rid of the divisions. They're just gonna play a balanced schedule. 1684 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna play each The SEC is gonna they've locked in. 1685 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna do three automatics. It's not officially locked in, 1686 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 1: but it is because Saban is already complaining about it. 1687 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna do. They're gonna go three teams that they 1688 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 1: play every year. So for Alabama it will be Auburn. 1689 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 1: I think for Alabama it's Auburn, LSU and Tennessee. Ye 1690 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,320 Speaker 1: complaining about that because they're three are really good. So 1691 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: like some some some teams are going to get to 1692 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 1: coast a little bit, like they're three. Lsues will be 1693 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 1: Lsues will be Alabama, Arkansas and Texas, A and M. 1694 01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 1: Like Alabama's easier, is more difficult marginally, So that's that's 1695 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: where his beef is. I mean, some of them could 1696 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 1: be really easy, like Oklahomas could be really easy. Feels 1697 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 1: Oklahomas could be like Texas, Missouri and Arkansas. Feels to 1698 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 1: me that you need to put them in pods, a 1699 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 1: little four team pods. Yeah, they don't. They don't want 1700 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,599 Speaker 1: to do that. They want to go to the divisionalist thing. 1701 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,800 Speaker 1: And then I think what they want. The reason they 1702 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 1: don't want to do the pods is they want to 1703 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 1: make sure that every team comes through every place more 1704 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 1: regularly with the pods, it would be less. It'd be 1705 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 1: like once every four years instead of once every other year. Well, 1706 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,560 Speaker 1: I just meant for like the who you play, So 1707 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: four teams will play they play each other once every year, 1708 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: and then you would play everybody else. Yeah. The reason 1709 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 1: they don't want to do that is is for that 1710 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: reason that that it limits the amount of teams you 1711 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: can play consistently in your conference, Like you don't want 1712 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 1: to go four years with Texas going to like Tuscaloosa. Sure, 1713 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 1: so that's the reason for why they're doing it. I 1714 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: agree with you. But if they're still playing three teams 1715 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,519 Speaker 1: ever are you're saying because then they can spread out 1716 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,960 Speaker 1: like lu will still be spread out, right, gotcha? Yeah, 1717 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 1: So that that's the way that that that's gonna go. 1718 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 1: So much more to come. You'll listen to Cleveland Browns 1719 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 1: Zaly on a fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily brought 1720 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 1: to you by Bally Bed coming soon to Ohio on 1721 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:38,639 Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland Hoops Tonight, six thirty. I tell 1722 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,360 Speaker 1: you what my favorite game of the night other than 1723 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,560 Speaker 1: the one that I can't see, which is UCLA and Gonzaga, 1724 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,599 Speaker 1: which is a tent ninety five. Tip. Yeah, the best 1725 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 1: game of the night if you're if you're a hoops fan, 1726 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 1: will be Kansas State and Michigan State. That goes at 1727 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 1: six thirty. The Kansas State guard Newell is a joy, 1728 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,439 Speaker 1: pure joy. He's fun. 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