WEBVTT - Second Date Update: Defensive Guitar Player

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<v Speaker 1>Second date. A girl on the phone for today's second

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<v Speaker 1>date updates sent us an email saying I hope I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't offend him and her name is Maddie. Maddie, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>offended that you think that you offended somebody else. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing, Maddie, I'm good. How are y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you do sound like someone who just

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<v Speaker 1>comes on so strong. Maddie. Where did you meet this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a weird story, but I actually met him

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<v Speaker 1>on the app Offer up. Do you know what that is? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the cooler form of Craigslist, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little less murdery. Yeah, you just like buy and sell

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from people like Facebook Marketplace. Yeah. So, anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to buy this guitar from this guy named Derek.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you play guitar? No, I'm redoing my apartment, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would look cute. I have just like

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<v Speaker 1>reading the whole thing. Okay, buying musical instruments for decoration,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cute. I mean, like if I have a party

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<v Speaker 1>someone else could play in, or it's obviously just a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to meet a guy who plays a guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm guessing the guy that you bought the guitar

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<v Speaker 1>from is who you went out with. Yeah, we guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Derek. We met at a coffee shop and I

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<v Speaker 1>to him and I was like, he was really cute

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<v Speaker 1>then with guitars, tell you now to stay away. When

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<v Speaker 1>he offered to buy my coffee, okay wow, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, perfect. I got my regular triple ventie

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<v Speaker 1>coconut milk to pump white molt guy. Oh my god, girl, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's offering then right, So did you guys actually

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<v Speaker 1>hang out or did you just do the guitar exchange

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<v Speaker 1>give him the money and that was it. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>like talked very briefly. I mean, he bought my coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>We exchanged guitars and like harded ways and then like

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<v Speaker 1>not even an hour later, he texted me okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, I didn't want to like ask you

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<v Speaker 1>at the coffee shop because I didn't want to make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel weird, but I'd love to take you out tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys went on a date date. Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>classy move. Where did he take you? It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those bars where you throw axes. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>throw axes at targets, like this guy, he's like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hold axes. He plays guitar like hard and so

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<v Speaker 1>many red flags already. How was the axe throwing? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, it was so fun. You have to go,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do cut you off like you can only

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<v Speaker 1>have like two drinks. Oh, it's just smart, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I invited him back my place, but it was like

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<v Speaker 1>not that late. Yeah, you could play me a song

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<v Speaker 1>on the guitar so perfect. Yeah, I have a feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how this night ended for her. Well you're

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<v Speaker 1>back to our place, still having a good time, and

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<v Speaker 1>he plays me at Sweet Caroline, And I jokingly was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the best song you know how to play? Joe, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't poke funded a man playing guitar for you

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a serious moment for any guy. I'm with you, though,

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as you said, he started playing Sweet Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I thought he was going to like show off

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<v Speaker 1>his skills, like don't you know any like my Chemical

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<v Speaker 1>Romance or something like something modern? Anybody could play that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what did he say? He was like, Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can play this off like mumbly, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>guitar And we were talking and then he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go, I gotta get home, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's like obviously a Joe. It wasn't really though, obviously. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why you think that you maybe offended him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's all I can think of, because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought we had a great time and yeah, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>texting me back. Did you guys even kiss or anything? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we probably would have if I hadn't opened Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh man, So do you want to go out

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<v Speaker 1>with him? Because he seems like if that's the reason,

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<v Speaker 1>that is incredibly sensitive, right, Yeah, I totally want to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with him. Like he plays guitar and he

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<v Speaker 1>took me ac throwing like it was like such a

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<v Speaker 1>weird fun day. How long has it been since he

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<v Speaker 1>last responded to you? Like a week and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>ten days or something? Wow? Okay, Well, if we get

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<v Speaker 1>him on her phone, can we get through a whole

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<v Speaker 1>conversation without you saying something offensive? Again? I will bite

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<v Speaker 1>my phone? All right. Well, we're gonna give him a

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<v Speaker 1>call and get your second date update right after this. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on second, is this really the best second date

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<v Speaker 1>update we can do? Yeah? I guess it is. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just tuning in. Maddie is on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>for a second date update. She met a guy when

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<v Speaker 1>she bought a guitar are from him on a marketplace app.

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<v Speaker 1>They went out acts throwing together, and she invited him

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<v Speaker 1>back to her place and asked him to play a

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<v Speaker 1>little song on the guitar that she bought, and he

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<v Speaker 1>played the song Sweet Caroline Classic, which it's a good song,

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<v Speaker 1>but not good enough for Maddie because she tried to

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<v Speaker 1>joke by saying, is that the best song you can do?

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<v Speaker 1>Totally joking. Yeah, Well it may have offended him and

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<v Speaker 1>the joke might not have come across because now she's

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<v Speaker 1>not getting a call back from this guy. Derek Brooke,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you have some mom advice for this young single woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I am also a woman who has dated many men. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd fallen for guitar players myself twenty years ago. Drawn

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<v Speaker 1>your experien It's a trap, that's all I'm saying, Maddie.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all a trap. Okay. And maybe maybe he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know any other songs. Maybe that's his one go to song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's like his move Yeah no, no, no, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like really cute it for him. To play a song.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if you're going to like serenade a

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<v Speaker 1>hot girl play a song that's been on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>in the lap ten twenty years, right, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fair point. I guess at some like end of

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<v Speaker 1>the bar. Long Okay, wait, I mean if that's all

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<v Speaker 1>he knows, you'll still go out with him, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not actually judging your date based on his guitar knowledge, totally. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all clear. Now let's give Derek a call. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready? Yes, let's do this. I'm to be quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah, So so try and be quiet and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>try and get the reason why he's not calling you back. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Hello, can I speak to Derek please?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eric. Hey, my name's Young Jeffrey from the

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<v Speaker 1>radio show Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Um? What do you guys want? Oh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like some angry listening that you've been doing. Very

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<v Speaker 1>friendly guy. Yeah, have you ever heard of second date update? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I have? Sorry, I feel like we're annoying you, Derek?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a bad time? How can I help you? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing a segment, right, now called a second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where we call people who are blowing someone off

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<v Speaker 1>after they went on on a date with that person. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you recently went up with a girl named

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<v Speaker 1>Maddie and she's wondering why you're not calling back. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god? Whoa. Oh so you remember Maddie? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and I you know what, just tell her

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<v Speaker 1>I have a girlfriend. Um, that's probably the best way.

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<v Speaker 1>Just tell her, did you have a girlfriend? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have a girlfriend. Oh okay, such suckers,

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<v Speaker 1>Like obviously that's his excuse. Okay, so that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why you don't want to call her. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason though? No, man, I just don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into any drama or anything. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not really about that. Did you think,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you were attracted to her at some point? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, she seemed like she was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. But I mean I should have known she

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<v Speaker 1>was high maintenance when I offered her a coffee and

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<v Speaker 1>she got like a seven dollar drink. Oh yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>wait is it her high maintenance coffee order? That? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, she's fun, but you mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how these kind of girls are. I mean, they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy. Her coffee drink tells you that she's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>The coffee was just the beginning, okay. So like after

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<v Speaker 1>that we go axe throwing and like it's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she invites me back to her apartment and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, well, I hope we don't run into my ex.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, it was like, what do you live with

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<v Speaker 1>your ex? Right? And no she doesn't. But they do

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<v Speaker 1>live in the same apartment building together, and they only

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<v Speaker 1>she just moved down the hall. Yeah, they lived together,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after they broke up, she decided to just

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<v Speaker 1>move two doors down as revenge. So wait, did you

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<v Speaker 1>ask her why though, Well, she said that she thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun that he had to deal with seeing

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<v Speaker 1>her all the time even though they were broken up.

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<v Speaker 1>That is kind of funny in an unstable kind of way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's echo kind of way. I'm sorry, kind of psycho,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, eco cho, I'm sorry. How rude are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you really just say slow down? Maddie? Yeah? Yeah, okay, wait, Maddie,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you on the phone. Yeah, we should have

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<v Speaker 1>told you this maybe a little while ago. Derek Maddie

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<v Speaker 1>has been listening the entire time on the other line,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh my gosh, this is why I didn't want it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful a woman the S word, it's actually the P word.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we want to be Maddie, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lay that whatever. That was so rude. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>wait though, Maddie, I mean I think the important pieces

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<v Speaker 1>is like why are you living two doors down for

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<v Speaker 1>your mer ex? Well, okay, I said that thing like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I hope you don't run into my ex. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was like lighthearted about it. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>he's thinking it serifully let me playing. Okay, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he he done to me because I cut him cheating

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<v Speaker 1>on me. Okay, so why didn't you dune him? Then

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<v Speaker 1>you should get away from that guy farther than two

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<v Speaker 1>doors It seems like a good reason to move on. Maddie. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was being such a about it and how I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the apartment because it's like close to my jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>like I already have a perking space, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>being so rude about it, and I'm like in an

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<v Speaker 1>apartment like two doors down was opening up. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>two doors down, like not my first pick, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it was, and I wasn't going to let him win.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Like, No, that is so such a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>idea on every I mean, that just speaks to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>your really poor judgment. I'm sorry, I do not want

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<v Speaker 1>to be with my poor judgment. It speaks to how

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<v Speaker 1>he is because it's easier. I don't think anyone's debating that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, why would you want to live next

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<v Speaker 1>to that? Yeah, Maddie, if this guy is such a

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<v Speaker 1>jerk to you and he's wronged you in so many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you want to stay in close proximity to

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<v Speaker 1>him to make him what he deserves to see me

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<v Speaker 1>thriving and having fun and coming out with guys and

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with my girlfriend. But Maddie, that's what social

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<v Speaker 1>media is for. Like a normal person, when you want

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<v Speaker 1>to seek revenge, you just post pictures of how great

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<v Speaker 1>you look and you're on a new outfit and you

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<v Speaker 1>partying with your friends, like on Instagram. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>am the professional of that, but he blocked me on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>He blocked me on Venmo people. Oh wow, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even want your money, Betty, You are better than him.

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<v Speaker 1>Stops doing to this level. I mean, you cannot let

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who cheated on you have the even opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to block you. What are you doing? I just this

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<v Speaker 1>apartment has a washer dryer in unit. I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you that that actually I could kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get I know, I'm not gonna lie in uno.

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<v Speaker 1>So that doesn't none of this feels awkward to you, Maddie.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel totally comfortable seeing him all the time. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the one that should have left, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>he'll get the picture and he'll leave. Oh okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're waiting him out. Okay, well at least you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to move when he moves. Yeah, you're waiting him

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<v Speaker 1>out or you're not over him. I don't know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think we're we're like flying somewhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in both zones right now? Well, yeah, I mean either way, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the reason is, you shouldn't tell a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>you're on a first date with that your ex lives

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<v Speaker 1>in the same building as you. Like that just a

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<v Speaker 1>really weird vibe. And okay, honestly just makes the guy

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<v Speaker 1>scared and made me want to just run away. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry I made you feel that way. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted you to know that if we ran into him,

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<v Speaker 1>or if he was around, then you would have known,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But like just you just don't think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think about it. What's wrong with you? Stop

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it? Okay o, Maddie. He does bring up

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<v Speaker 1>a good point, Maddie. I mean that's like more like

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<v Speaker 1>fourth date topic. Once you've got the guy hooked and

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<v Speaker 1>then he can't go back because he already likes you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you drop knowledge like that. I barely see him.

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<v Speaker 1>I see once a week at most, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>in passing. I mean, yeah, I think the real question is, Maddie,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure you're ready to move on? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're ready to date? Yeah? Honestly, Derek, you have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to worry about. Your like way bigger than him.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we did see him and like things that

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<v Speaker 1>in times, you could definitely beat him up. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to move for you to date me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying? I mean, that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum that you have to do to Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Now who's been high maintenance your expectations here. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>see if if Derek is open for this. Derek, would

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<v Speaker 1>you be willing to go out on a second date

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<v Speaker 1>with Maddie? We will offer to pay for it. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Why Hey, she's got to wash her and dryer. Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>you could bring over loads of laudry. That's very enticing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm good, I'm good. Okay, Maddie. Have we learned

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<v Speaker 1>anything from this? Yeah? But he's high maintenance and the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. Yes, men are high maintenance and

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. Yea, and the worst. We are the worst, Maddie.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning