Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's
Speaker 2: Chuck and Jerry's here too, and we're just getting conspiratorial
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Speaker 1: That's right, the episode we wanted to do so much
Speaker 1: that it sat in our folder for four.
Speaker 2: Years I believe it was. Yeah, the very beginning of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, I would say, probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 2: We are. I gotta say, it's gonna be nice to
Speaker 2: see that removed from my desktop. It's just been sitting
Speaker 2: there for so long.
Speaker 3: Just staring at you. That que like a big blinky,
Speaker 3: winky eyeball.
Speaker 2: Yes with a one single eyelash attached. So we should
Speaker 2: probably say at the outset to anybody tuning in that
Speaker 2: who is like part of the q and No movement?
Speaker 2: We're going to approach this as if everything the QAnon
Speaker 2: movement believes is not true or made up, not from
Speaker 2: the perspective of people who believe in the QAnon movement,
Speaker 2: although we'll explain a lot of the same stuff. I
Speaker 2: just don't want anybody to, you know, get five minutes
Speaker 2: in and be like, what is this, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a fair CoA And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's just the deal.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we're taking the anthropological stance.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, so let's dive in, shall we.
Speaker 2: Well let's give a little bit of a definition for
Speaker 2: the three people who've never heard of QAnon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, what I'm hoping is is that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people like me who actually probably I
Speaker 1: probably knew more about it than some people even, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people probably just sort of knew a
Speaker 1: little bit or know a little bit about what this
Speaker 1: thing was slash is m M, but you know, didn't
Speaker 1: really know much about it, and it's just good to
Speaker 1: know about stuff. So hopefully that'll brighten some corners of
Speaker 1: your life as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing I kept running into while researching
Speaker 2: this is that there's a lot of families that have
Speaker 2: been torn apart, families, friendships, sure, because people will go
Speaker 2: down the QAnon rabbit hole, and the friends and family
Speaker 2: that are like, that's not true get left behind because
Speaker 2: they haven't woken up yet. So yeah, I can really
Speaker 2: mess things up. So possibly there's some people listening to
Speaker 2: this who have lost friends or family that might be
Speaker 2: a little wiser to it might be able to try
Speaker 2: to get their friend or family member back afterwards. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the final CoA I guess is that some
Speaker 1: of this stuff is so outlandish that it's hard to
Speaker 1: not laugh.
Speaker 3: But it's not funny at all.
Speaker 1: It's dangerous and scary and sad. So if I might
Speaker 1: laugh at something or giggle, it's not that I don't
Speaker 1: take it seriously. That it's a serious kind of thing
Speaker 1: that's happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of like not even kind of. It
Speaker 2: very much trapes us into the territory of high camp,
Speaker 2: but is not at all being ironic or campy. It's
Speaker 2: just just approach this as like everything we're gonna say
Speaker 2: is believed seriously by people in the QAnon movement. And
Speaker 2: then sorry, CoA Number five, we're probably going to get
Speaker 2: a lot wrong. This is an incredibly expansive, ever evolving
Speaker 2: movement conspiracy theory that you know, we're not We're going
Speaker 2: to walk right past some stuff where we might misspeak
Speaker 2: here there, but hopefully the general contours and outlines we're
Speaker 2: going to we're going to get to be able to
Speaker 2: get across.
Speaker 3: Correctly all right onward.
Speaker 2: So this whole thing The q Andon movement is a
Speaker 2: online conspiracy theory that essentially the world is run by
Speaker 2: a cabal of global elites, mostly liberals, Hollywood typesment high
Speaker 2: government officials, and that they do all sorts of nefarious things,
Speaker 2: which we'll get into in a second. But one of
Speaker 2: the things to understand about this first is that a
Speaker 2: lot of it is rooted in some really old existing
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories, in particular a lot of anti Semitic ones
Speaker 2: that have been around for centuries. In particular, the blood
Speaker 2: libel is one that Jews for like a thousand years essentially,
Speaker 2: maybe longer, have been persecuted, executed, massacred because of rumors
Speaker 2: that they steal Christian babies and kill them and use
Speaker 2: their blood to make leaven bread or unleavened bread for Passover,
Speaker 2: and that stuff gets around and people get all up
Speaker 2: in arms and scared about their kids being kidnapped, and
Speaker 2: then the next thing you know, Jewish people are dead
Speaker 2: because of this blood libel. That's part of it. And
Speaker 2: although Jewish people are targeted in some quarters, you don't
Speaker 2: have to be anti Semitic to be a queue not
Speaker 2: member necessarily, right.
Speaker 1: Other things that it echoes from the past are something
Speaker 1: called the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was
Speaker 1: in the nineteenth and twentieth century. Another anti Semitic conspiracy,
Speaker 1: basically the tired trope that there's a global Jewish cabal
Speaker 1: kind of running the world, running the banking system, plotting
Speaker 1: to overthrow the gentile governments of the world. We mentioned
Speaker 1: Henry Ford and our Henry Ford podcast was a believer
Speaker 1: in this kind of thing. And versions of this, versions
Speaker 1: of the Blood Libel have been sort of wrapped up,
Speaker 1: given a new, brand new shine coat of wax, and
Speaker 1: was trotted out as QAnon, which is and you know,
Speaker 1: Dave helped us with this many years ago, and thankfully
Speaker 1: Dave didn't quit his job and he's still around to
Speaker 1: help us out more.
Speaker 3: But it's a catch all.
Speaker 1: This conspiracy that you said is very vast, very wide ranging,
Speaker 1: but mostly has to do with these power or full
Speaker 1: liberal elites that are some are pedophiles, some are Satan worshippers.
Speaker 1: Some they claim literally eat children. And we're talking about
Speaker 1: the Clintons, of course, and we're talking about Tom Hanks
Speaker 1: and Oprah Winfrey and George Soros and Ellen DeGeneres and
Speaker 1: even the Dali Lama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Pope Francis. So anybody who's even remotely left
Speaker 2: leaning who holds power in the world, especially in the
Speaker 2: government or you know, pop culture, they are probably a
Speaker 2: part of this secret cabal. And it checks all the
Speaker 2: boxes for pearl clutching. They run the world, They worship Satan,
Speaker 2: their pedophiles, and their cannibals. Can you think of a
Speaker 2: worse group of people than that. I can't think of
Speaker 2: any other thing you could throw at the at the
Speaker 2: wall to see what would stick. Like, that's as bad
Speaker 2: as anything gets. So the idea behind QAnon? What else
Speaker 2: could I've been trying to think? Give me something.
Speaker 3: Else, maybe Philadelphia sports fans.
Speaker 2: Oh, now we're gonna get some hate mail, man, And.
Speaker 3: That's where the hate mail is gonna come from. So
Speaker 3: I'm just getting brotherly love.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and batteries. So the whole thing, though, is
Speaker 2: that these people who are Satanic, pedophile cannibals, thank you.
Speaker 2: People new to the podcasts are gonna be like, what's
Speaker 2: wrong with that one guy?
Speaker 3: It's hard to even get that sentence out.
Speaker 2: It is thanks man, that they run the world. They
Speaker 2: run things, and it all happens below the surface. Everything
Speaker 2: that normies like you and I and probably most of
Speaker 2: the people listening to this podcast believe is true. Is brainwashed.
Speaker 2: We've been brainwashed by the mainstream media to be given
Speaker 2: this line that things are the way they seem, when
Speaker 2: in reality, things are not at all the way they seem.
Speaker 2: There's a Satanic worshiping cult running the world, and they're
Speaker 2: doing all sorts of terrible things. Those of us who
Speaker 2: don't believe in QAnon just haven't awakened to this idea
Speaker 2: yet of what's actually reality.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's one part. Those are the bad guys.
Speaker 1: The good guys, or rather the good guy is former
Speaker 1: president and twenty twenty four candidate Donald Trump, who, according
Speaker 1: to QAnon and the theory, was picked, handpicked by the
Speaker 1: leaders of the US military to fight these evil forces,
Speaker 1: and everything that he does and tries to do is
Speaker 1: in service of that mission. Anything working against him, even
Speaker 1: within his own party, as part of the deep state plot,
Speaker 1: and they are all awaiting what's known or what they
Speaker 1: call the storm, which is when Trump reveals who he
Speaker 1: is and what he has done to fight these evil forces,
Speaker 1: declares martial law, and everyone that has been a part
Speaker 1: of that secret cabal is rounded up by the military
Speaker 1: and tried and convicted and killed, at which time that
Speaker 1: the Great Awakening will occur, in which Trump and the
Speaker 1: QAnon supporters are a lot of his heroes around the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this will bring about the founding of a
Speaker 2: right wing authoritarian regime that Trump will lead. This is again,
Speaker 2: this is what they believe is going on. So when
Speaker 2: Donald Trump became president, for some reason, he had to
Speaker 2: play along with this great charade that the liberal leftist
Speaker 2: Satanists were producing, rather than I don't know, just being
Speaker 2: overt about what his mission was. So that means that
Speaker 2: since he had to play along, he had to leave
Speaker 2: little like he had to give little winks and nods
Speaker 2: and leave what are called bread crumbs, which are little
Speaker 2: bits of information or little clues that the QAnon community dissects, discusses,
Speaker 2: argues over. And what that's called is baking. They take
Speaker 2: the breadcrumbs and they bake it, and when they finally
Speaker 2: come to some sort of consensus or somebody comes up
Speaker 2: with the best craziest interpretation of it, that becomes basically
Speaker 2: the QAnon canon, and that spreads throughout social media, and
Speaker 2: then the QAnon movement just gets that much more solidified
Speaker 2: that much more extensive, and because of these tweets on
Speaker 2: social media, some people say, well, what the heck is
Speaker 2: everybody talking about, and we'll go look this stuff up
Speaker 2: and very often fall down the rabbit rabbit hole and
Speaker 2: become q andon members themselves.
Speaker 3: That's right, So are we done?
Speaker 2: Yep? That was it. That's everything you need to know
Speaker 2: about QAnon. Everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just read six ads and go home.
Speaker 2: There's two more things I wanted to add about this
Speaker 2: global Satanist pedophile cannibal elite that's running the world secretly.
Speaker 2: They are also suspected by some to be actual lizard people,
Speaker 2: which is a direct ripoff of the the mini series
Speaker 2: from the early eighties. And then, secondly, the reason that
Speaker 2: they sacrifice the kids that they sexually abuse is because
Speaker 2: they're after they're adrenochrome, which.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is pretty fun.
Speaker 2: Metabolis. Adrenochrome is metabolized adrenaline. It's oxidized adrenaline, and according
Speaker 2: to QAnon, it's like the elixir of life. So these
Speaker 2: Satanists are sacrificing kids to get their adrenochrome and drinking it,
Speaker 2: and they're they're staying forever young and vital. And there's
Speaker 2: a few things wrong with this one. It seems to
Speaker 2: be based on a misinterpretation of what adrenochrome does and
Speaker 2: where you get it, based on fear and loathing in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, because Hunter Thompson has basically a throwaway intimation
Speaker 2: that the adrenochrome that he does and goes on a
Speaker 2: crazy trip over it can only be gotten from the
Speaker 2: adrenal gland of a live human.
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, And that is not true. It's synthesized
Speaker 1: in a lab. You can it's it's available. That is
Speaker 1: not true at all. So none of that is true.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I think we'd laid the foundation pretty well,
Speaker 2: Like that's essentially the greatest broad strokes of what people
Speaker 2: in QAnon believe is going on in reality.
Speaker 3: That's right. Should we take a break?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back and we'll talk about pizza
Speaker 1: right after this. All right, we promised talk of pizza.
Speaker 1: That's because you can't talk about q and on without
Speaker 1: mentioning a bit of a precursor to QAnon, which was Pizzagate,
Speaker 1: that is to say, in twenty sixteen, and this is
Speaker 1: we should say that the first QAnon sort of activity,
Speaker 1: which are called q andon drops started in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: kind of what like October. And this is in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen when the Democratic Convention servers were hacked and emails
Speaker 1: were published on Wiki leaks, and one of them kind
Speaker 1: of rose to the top, which was an email from
Speaker 1: John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton's twenty sixteen campaign chairman,
Speaker 1: in which he put forth, Hey, there's this pizza place
Speaker 1: called Comet Ping Pong in the DC area here, and
Speaker 1: we should hold a fundraiser there. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he said this in the email, but the fact is
Speaker 1: that his brother was a regular there and said, hey,
Speaker 1: this is probably a good place to do that. They
Speaker 1: got pretty good pizza, they got a bunch of ping
Speaker 1: pong tables. It's a good place for people to meet up.
Speaker 1: And that was found in I guess exposed, which is
Speaker 1: kind of a funny way to say it on four Chan,
Speaker 1: where people started saying, oh, well, that is the HQ.
Speaker 1: Basically that's ground zero for where this elite cabal is
Speaker 1: meeting and they are sacrificing children in the basement of
Speaker 1: that place. There is no basement to that place, but
Speaker 1: who cares about that? That was what was put forth
Speaker 1: on four Chan and hashtag pizzagate started spreading like wildfire.
Speaker 2: Surprisingly, yeah, and the fact that there is no basement means,
Speaker 2: according to like qann thinking, that means that it's hidden.
Speaker 2: And even if we don't have any proof it's there,
Speaker 2: because the fact that it's being used by this secret
Speaker 2: cabal and it's hidden is proof that it's there. Right,
Speaker 2: That's the kind of circular thinking that keeps these things going,
Speaker 2: and in Pizzagate in particular with Comet ping Pong, within
Speaker 2: a month October twenty ninth was the first post about
Speaker 2: how this is this is one of the home bases
Speaker 2: of this child sex trafficking that this cabal engaged in
Speaker 2: October twenty ninth was the first post. By December fourth,
Speaker 2: a little over a month later, a man so riled
Speaker 2: up by the idea that Comet ping Pong was a
Speaker 2: hub of child sex trafficking drove a few hundred miles
Speaker 2: from North Carolina to DC and showed up with at
Speaker 2: comment Ping Pong with the AR fifteen and shot up
Speaker 2: a door to get the door open.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: He also had a handgun on his side. Nobody was hurt.
Speaker 1: People got out of there, very quickly. He kind of
Speaker 1: wandered around the place alone for about twenty minutes. I
Speaker 1: couldn't get in that door shot it up, told authorities
Speaker 1: that he was self investigating Hillary Clinton's pedophile.
Speaker 3: Ring, and that was that. He went to jail. Is
Speaker 3: now out of jail.
Speaker 1: I think he went for a few years, interestingly sentenced
Speaker 1: by Kintaji Jackson Brown who now sits on the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: Oh really, side note, huh, Yeah, but that was it basically,
Speaker 1: But you know, that was Pizzagate, and it was a
Speaker 1: precursor to what would follow in October twenty seventeen when
Speaker 1: Q first, I guess revealed himself but not really.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I think. Yeah. The first drop was
Speaker 2: October twentieth seventeen on four Chan, which is an image
Speaker 2: board which is like you post images and then people
Speaker 2: comment on them and conversations breakout, and in particular, four
Speaker 2: Chan was known as like one of the really dark
Speaker 2: recesses of the Internet. And on this image board a
Speaker 2: guy named Q Clearance Patriot, and the first post read
Speaker 2: open your eyes many in our government worship Satan. That
Speaker 2: was the first Q drop that ever came out. In
Speaker 2: October twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: That's right. And Q clearance.
Speaker 1: You know what QAnon means is Q clearance is a
Speaker 1: top secret clearance utilized by the Department of Energy, specifically
Speaker 1: meaning you have access to nuclear the nuclear weapons program.
Speaker 1: And the anon comes from just a sort of a
Speaker 1: regular thing that would be people on four Chan who
Speaker 1: claim to be like part of the FBI, like FBI,
Speaker 1: non ciaann like whitstler blowing kind of thing. So q
Speaker 1: anon became the name and claimed to be a intelligence officer,
Speaker 1: a very high ranking person within the US government who
Speaker 1: had direct evidence of this satanic pedophile cult and very
Speaker 1: clear approvable knowledge that Donald Trump was on a secret
Speaker 1: mission from the US military to reverse all this.
Speaker 2: Right, and so between October twenty seventeen and sometime in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, the Q drops amounted to I guess more
Speaker 2: than five thousand, and they were really really cryptic. They
Speaker 2: were not like, hey, this is going on comet ping
Speaker 2: Pong is actually a hub of child sex trafficking. They
Speaker 2: were very cryptic, and so that just lent themselves to
Speaker 2: be dissected and discussed and thought about and interpreted and misinterpreted.
Speaker 2: And so there's an example of one from September twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: This would be shortly after the whole thing started, and
Speaker 2: it said panic in dc LL talking equals truth revealed,
Speaker 2: Tarmac bc LL talking equals truth revealed Comy HRC email case.
Speaker 2: And it goes on and on and it mentions Hussein,
Speaker 2: which is how Q always referred to Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: Thanks for shortening this, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it just it keeps going on. But the last
Speaker 2: line is Faiza brings down the house? When do bird sing?
Speaker 2: And what the what the focus was on was the
Speaker 2: at the time, the Hillary Clinton email server scandal that
Speaker 2: Loretta Lynch was the Attorney General at the time, and
Speaker 2: she met on a tarmac and in private with yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: with Bill Clinton on a plane and it was a
Speaker 2: huge scandal and everybody's like, what were they talking about
Speaker 2: really and all that. So that's what this Q thing reference.
Speaker 2: So that was the kind of stuff that they would say,
Speaker 2: like like using just people's initials, just really cryptic, short
Speaker 2: staccato statements or questions and like that was it. It
Speaker 2: would they would just go away, and then people would
Speaker 2: just go crazy trying to figure out what it meant that's.
Speaker 1: Right, and really like get into the deciphering. I think
Speaker 1: that was part of the oh geez. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if fun is the word to use, but maybe
Speaker 1: they were having fun. But part of the whole experience,
Speaker 1: I guess is the best way to say it, is
Speaker 1: deciphering these message messages, chatting with each other on what
Speaker 1: everything means, what these initials are, who everyone is, and
Speaker 1: just to get that kind of robust conversation going on
Speaker 1: these dark corners of the web, initially dark corners, and
Speaker 1: eventually the mainstream social media of the World Wide Web.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like I said, four chan is considered one
Speaker 2: of the darker backwaters of the web, and then it
Speaker 2: moved on to eight chan, which became eight kun or
Speaker 2: eight kun, and it just kept getting darker and darker
Speaker 2: and darker the places these Q drops were happening. But
Speaker 2: then eventually, like I said earlier, people would start tweeting
Speaker 2: about this stuff, and all of a sudden it spread
Speaker 2: out from the darker parts of the web to the
Speaker 2: more mainstream parts of the web, and then the actual
Speaker 2: mainstream media started reporting on it. So this thing spread
Speaker 2: far and wide, and the more far and wide its spread,
Speaker 2: the more believable the whole thing became you know, like
Speaker 2: you'd see it everywhere and people were talking about it seriously,
Speaker 2: so it was kind of easy to fall down a
Speaker 2: rabbit hole the further along this whole thing went, just
Speaker 2: because there was more and more information to be found
Speaker 2: down those rabbit holes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, as scary as it is, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden and you're at home for the pandemic,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of more time on your hands.
Speaker 1: You're or maybe you know, lost your job or something
Speaker 1: which would have been awful, and have more time on
Speaker 1: your hands, and all of a sudden, you're reading things
Speaker 1: like you don't know what four chan is or eight
Speaker 1: chan maybe, or how to get there, And all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you see something on Facebook or Instagram or
Speaker 1: one of the close to seventy million tweets referencing QAnon
Speaker 1: related hashtags and.
Speaker 3: Phrases over a three year period.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're thinking like, oh, well, this
Speaker 1: is this is if I'm seeing on Facebook, which is
Speaker 1: where I also see pictures of my kid's soccer team.
Speaker 3: So that makes it.
Speaker 1: Bona fide and believable, which is in itself kind of
Speaker 1: sad that that's as far as it goes research wise,
Speaker 1: and people digging into that kind of the truth.
Speaker 3: Of the matter. But that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Well. People also went to the trouble of essentially compiling books,
Speaker 2: creating lengthy documentaries all supporting these QAnon theories and explaining
Speaker 2: them and busting them out, sometimes grabbing actual, verifiable, real
Speaker 2: world examples and interpreting them differently and putting the whole
Speaker 2: thing together. And so the fact that there's a documentary
Speaker 2: on this legitimizes it to a lot of people too,
Speaker 2: So there was it just became legitimized weirdly in some
Speaker 2: really weird, questionable ways. And again, all of this, the
Speaker 2: entire thing was in service to the idea that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump was secretly fighting this cabal and he would bring
Speaker 2: about the storm one day and people like Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 2: would be executed live on TV. And people were really
Speaker 2: psyched about that idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, I mentioned the pandemic because that's when
Speaker 1: the biggest spike and QAnon activity took place. In March
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, which is
Speaker 1: a think tank, did some investigating about just like spikes
Speaker 1: and activity and stuff, and March of twenty twenty is
Speaker 1: when it really really took off, of course, when unique
Speaker 1: Facebook users jumped one hundred and sixty one percent from
Speaker 1: year over year basically, and Twitter discussion of q and
Speaker 1: on increased what was at one hundred and thirty nine
Speaker 1: percent over the month as well, So that's where it
Speaker 1: started and really got going there.
Speaker 2: So when you are on social media and you see
Speaker 2: there's hashtags like WWG onega where we go one, we
Speaker 2: go all, but there's a bunch of them. One in
Speaker 2: particular was kind of hijacked from a legitimate anti child
Speaker 2: trafficking group. It's hashtag saved the Children. And the reason
Speaker 2: that it was hijacked was because this is part of
Speaker 2: the mission of QAnon is to stop sex trafficking of children, right,
Speaker 2: which is great, but that is one way that a
Speaker 2: lot of people were kind of innocently brought into the
Speaker 2: QAnon sphere. They were looking up save the children hashtags
Speaker 2: because they were concerned about sex trafficking, and they ended
Speaker 2: up on some tweets or on Facebook accounts of people
Speaker 2: who are like, now that you're here, let us explain
Speaker 2: who's actually doing the sex trafficking. It's Nancy Pelosi and
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, and that's the rabbit hole
Speaker 2: that they started to fall down through hashtags like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, And it even got so far as
Speaker 1: the online retailer Wayfair. I guess one of the rumors
Speaker 1: that got going on q via QAnon was that if
Speaker 1: you were cabinet shopping on Wayfair, then that was a
Speaker 1: secret sort of portal into children shopping. Instead of cabinets,
Speaker 1: it was actual children. And the other thing we didn't
Speaker 1: mention about Pizzagate is that when John Podesta and his
Speaker 1: email was talking about cheese pizza, it was really child pornography.
Speaker 1: So it's like things like that were getting twisted around
Speaker 1: and served to a willing audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole thing, like ten thousand dollars cabinets with
Speaker 2: female names that just got translated into well, Wayfair's a
Speaker 2: sex trafficking site. And one of the first posts I saw,
Speaker 2: the person led it with my spidey sense is tingling,
Speaker 2: and that's how it just took off. Somebody's spidy sense
Speaker 2: was tingling. There was a weird price for a cabinet
Speaker 2: and a girl's name, and that's all it took. So
Speaker 2: that's how that stuff spreads, It's how it takes root
Speaker 2: and that's just the thinking that people have with Q nine.
Speaker 2: There's all the clues are everywhere, and nothing is what
Speaker 2: it seems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: So we mentioned how presidential candidate Donald Trump was the
Speaker 1: supposed savior for all this sex trafficking and everything that's
Speaker 1: going on, and this became clear.
Speaker 3: If you ever, you know, saw.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump rallies then or now still, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: would see like Q posters and Q T shirts and
Speaker 1: Q flags and stuff like that. To be sure, we're
Speaker 1: not saying that Donald Trump was like, hey, everybody, I am.
Speaker 3: That guy, by the way, and.
Speaker 1: Literally got involved in this when he was asked though
Speaker 1: directly over the years, specifically in August of twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: they asked him point blank, you know, are you courting
Speaker 1: these QAnon followers? He said he didn't know anything about it,
Speaker 1: and then quote, I heard that, but I heard that
Speaker 1: these are people that love our country. I understand they
Speaker 1: like me very much, and it's gaining a popular larity.
Speaker 1: When they followed up with a question about him being
Speaker 1: the savior from child sex traffickers, he you know, that's
Speaker 1: when I feel like he probably had a choice to
Speaker 1: directly say, like this is a ludicrous conspiracy. But he said,
Speaker 1: you know, is that supposed to be a bad thing.
Speaker 1: If I can help save the world from problems, I'm
Speaker 1: willing to do it. And the QAnon crowd ate this
Speaker 1: stuff up and they thought it was, you know, him
Speaker 1: sort of secretly saying that he is on their side.
Speaker 1: When he would wear a pink tie, which is a
Speaker 1: color associated with the movement, they would say, that's him
Speaker 1: signaling to us another little breadcrumb that he's leaving for us.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's also a very famous press conference a speech
Speaker 2: he did in the White House in twenty seventeen where
Speaker 2: he used two hands to drink from a bottle of
Speaker 2: Fiji water and he did it twice during this speech
Speaker 2: and people like remember that. Yeah, people made fun of
Speaker 2: him for it, like what's wrong with you? How do
Speaker 2: you not know how to drink out of a bottle
Speaker 2: of water? But the qan On support were like, yes,
Speaker 2: that a breadcrumb. Yes, the q and On supporters are like, yep,
Speaker 2: Fiji is a huge hub for sex trafficking. It's a
Speaker 2: destination and a hub, and he's pointing it out to us.
Speaker 2: He's letting us know he knows what's going on. That's
Speaker 2: what it was translated to. And that's one of the
Speaker 2: explanations that a lot of people gave for why it
Speaker 2: started to take off. Is it came along when Donald
Speaker 2: Trump was early in his presidency and was getting pummeled
Speaker 2: from every which way. So this was kind of a
Speaker 2: way to transform that, to transform the weird awkwardness into
Speaker 2: this is what's really going on, He's actually sending us signals.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Trump started to sort of openly
Speaker 1: post q and on theories, where before he danced it
Speaker 1: around a little more. After he had founded his own
Speaker 1: social media gathering place, I guess, Truth Social, where he
Speaker 1: started using q and on words to refer to himself
Speaker 1: like he was a martyr. He literally reposted a Q
Speaker 1: draw up. They played a q and on song WWG
Speaker 1: one WGA at one of his rallies, and.
Speaker 3: Over the years.
Speaker 1: Between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four, here's the
Speaker 1: stat I was looking for. Trump reposted q andon content
Speaker 1: more than eight hundred times on truth Social, so he
Speaker 1: definitely amplified the message. I guess we could say in
Speaker 1: the kindest.
Speaker 2: Way, Yeah, I did the math. That's a q andon
Speaker 2: repost every one point three six days, so that's a lot,
Speaker 2: and that's a complete turnaround. I read somewhere Chuck that
Speaker 2: at some of his rallies in twenty nineteen, he was
Speaker 2: trying to distance himself from q and On so much
Speaker 2: that there were people who went to his rallies who
Speaker 2: reported that the Secret Service as they were going through
Speaker 2: the metal detector was like, turn your shirt on inside
Speaker 2: out because they were wearing a q Andon shirt. They're like,
Speaker 2: we don't want to see those at the rallies anymore
Speaker 2: because it's just such bad there's such a bad name
Speaker 2: associated with it that Trump didn't even want to be
Speaker 2: associated with it. But then something happened in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: It's almost like he stopped and actually listened to what
Speaker 2: they were saying at QAnon and he was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I really do like that, and he fully embraced it,
Speaker 2: like you said, yeah.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing is, when you're dealing with a
Speaker 1: false conspiracy like this that's based on the idea of
Speaker 1: a deep state and secrets, there's no turning it around.
Speaker 3: You can't prove it wrong.
Speaker 1: Even if he came out and fully denounced it, which
Speaker 1: he never did.
Speaker 3: They would then just say, you know.
Speaker 1: That he's got to do that because it's all part
Speaker 1: of the big secret. So it's one of those sad
Speaker 1: cases where it's born out of paranoia and untruth such
Speaker 1: that you can't you can't truthify it, like no amount
Speaker 1: of truth will get the most ardent believers to think
Speaker 1: that they're not right.
Speaker 2: No, for sure. And one of the things that I
Speaker 2: saw also that explained it, in addition to like paranoia, anger,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing, as you kind of hit upon
Speaker 2: it earlier when you were questioning, like is it fun?
Speaker 2: And I think it definitely is fun for a lot
Speaker 2: of people because it's I saw it described as hazardous
Speaker 2: participatory civics, so like the people in their way are
Speaker 2: participating in the machinations, the secret machinations of the government.
Speaker 2: So I think it is thrilling and fun in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways too. I don't think it's one hundred
Speaker 2: percent negative or angry or ragy. I think that for
Speaker 2: people in the q Andon movement there's a lot of
Speaker 2: positivity to it too. And I think there's one other
Speaker 2: thing to mention about QAnon people here, Chuck, especially the influencers,
Speaker 2: they are well aware that their beliefs look totally crazy
Speaker 2: to people in the mainstream, people like you and me
Speaker 2: who just believe things are the way they seem they are.
Speaker 2: But to them, we just haven't woken up to reality yet.
Speaker 2: So there's not like there's not like just a total
Speaker 2: loss of perspective and self reflection. It's just been inverted
Speaker 2: in a way like you're the one that's deluded, not me.
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, So I think we should take
Speaker 1: another break. We'll come back in a second and talk
Speaker 1: about who this q person might be and stop your
Speaker 1: emailing because Hazardous Participatory Civics is the best band name
Speaker 1: that we've ever had. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people in the q andon
Speaker 2: movement who've tried to guess who q is. One of
Speaker 2: the big candidates was the Trump's first national security advisor,
Speaker 2: Michael Flynn, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, and we'll get to
Speaker 2: him again in a minute. But if you don't believe
Speaker 2: that QAnon's real, there's some really good candidates for who
Speaker 2: posted these q andon drops, And crazy enough, it seems
Speaker 2: to have been two different people, and the second group
Speaker 2: of people rested control of q andon away from the
Speaker 2: guy who originally started it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this story gets a little confusing. Is there
Speaker 1: a way we can simplify this a little bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I can. You want me to try, well, sure, well, let.
Speaker 1: Me set up the players first, and then you can
Speaker 1: simplify what happened there. What everyone seems to think is
Speaker 1: that the current Q even though and we'll get to
Speaker 1: how much Q is around these days at all a
Speaker 1: little bit later. But the last Q or whatever most
Speaker 1: recent was a father and son team named James and
Speaker 1: Ronald Watkins, internet entrepreneurs, Americans living in the Philippines, where
Speaker 1: they ran owned and ran eight chan, which was that
Speaker 1: message board that originally hosted.
Speaker 3: That Q account.
Speaker 1: The other guy that we need to mention here is
Speaker 1: a guy named Frederick Brennan. He was the original creator
Speaker 1: of eight chan, but left those boards when it became
Speaker 1: clear that it was just a home for the worst
Speaker 1: stuff on the Internet.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he turned into the greatest critic and largest
Speaker 2: source of information about who really is Q because he
Speaker 2: knew the watkinses.
Speaker 1: That's right, And now maybe if you can explain how
Speaker 1: it was the mantle was unwillingly passed.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what people think is that the first guy
Speaker 2: who actually was Q was a South African man named
Speaker 2: Paul Ferber who was intensely interested and fascinated by American
Speaker 2: politics and conspiracy theories. And they think that he's responsible
Speaker 2: for the first Q drop up to sometime in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: that he was the original Q. The whole thing started
Speaker 2: on four chan, but very quickly migrated to eight chan
Speaker 2: because of apparently Q's account got hacked and he had
Speaker 2: to create a new account, so he moved to the
Speaker 2: more anonymous, more secure eight chan and started posting there.
Speaker 1: That's right, And he started posting on a message board
Speaker 1: called CBTs Calm before the storm, and he owned that
Speaker 1: sub board, Paul Ferber did, so that was his sub board.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that means that he could see who
Speaker 2: was posting it, could see like their actual metadata, right,
Speaker 2: So he was the only person who could verify that
Speaker 2: Q was Q. Same thing when they transferred from four
Speaker 2: chan to eight chan. He was the only person who
Speaker 2: could verify that this was actually the same guy, same
Speaker 2: IP address. So believe me, everybody, it's the same Q.
Speaker 2: So go ahead, Q essentially is what they were saying.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, in twenty eighteen, Q
Speaker 2: Paul Thurber said, hey, q'sq's account got hacked again, everybody,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna have to start a new account. But then,
Speaker 2: probably very much to Paul Therber's surprise, Q joined in
Speaker 2: and said, actually, no, my account hasn't been hacked. Paul
Speaker 2: Thurber's been compromised. So I'm going to start posting it
Speaker 2: a new board. This would be a board that Paul
Speaker 2: Thurber had no authority or administrative duties over, but Jim
Speaker 2: and Ron Watkins did. So now they were the only
Speaker 2: ones who could verify he Q was. And so they
Speaker 2: think that with that transition, and because they had administrative
Speaker 2: domain over eight chan, they took Q away from Paul
Speaker 2: Thurber and started posting his Q themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to be clear, this was the second time
Speaker 1: that account had been hacked. I do want to mention
Speaker 1: also that the first time it was hacked, they it
Speaker 1: was found out that the password for Q originally was
Speaker 1: Matt Block, which I just think is hysterical one of the.
Speaker 3: Few laughs were going to get here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the reason that the Watkinses wanted to sort
Speaker 1: of wrestle that away was because at some point Thurber
Speaker 1: started appearing on some right wing conspiracy like YouTube shows
Speaker 1: and stuff like that YouTube programs, so it was getting
Speaker 1: out there in a more mainstream way, and the Watkinsons
Speaker 1: were like, hey, this is you know, we can turn
Speaker 1: eight chan into a real conspiracy hotbed for the online
Speaker 1: right wing space, and so they saw an opportunity basically right.
Speaker 2: So it gets way more intricate than that. Like Fred
Speaker 2: Brennan has really gone into great detail to dig up
Speaker 2: a lot of evidence that all this happened, and we're
Speaker 2: not going to go into it here, but suffice to
Speaker 2: say that most people agree that he's probably right about this.
Speaker 2: That it started out as Paul Ferber and then turned
Speaker 2: to Ron Watkins, and the whole thing went until about
Speaker 2: June twenty twenty and then stopped, and those seemed to
Speaker 2: be the canonical Q drops, and then they picked up
Speaker 2: again in I think twenty twenty two, and as we'll see,
Speaker 2: those kind of got ignored because the community had changed
Speaker 2: so much in those eighteen months without Q dropping Q drops, right,
Speaker 2: But in the meantime the movement had taken over. I
Speaker 2: saw it described as it didn't need Q anymore. It
Speaker 2: had become its own. What was I saw written as
Speaker 2: the world's first open source cult where anybody could add
Speaker 2: or subtract, or debate or help create this again ever
Speaker 2: evolving mythos of what was really going on in the
Speaker 2: world with Donald Trump at the center of the whole thing.
Speaker 2: And the problem with that is is that it made
Speaker 2: it out of the darkest corners of the Internet to
Speaker 2: the mainstream Internet, to the mainstream media, and then into
Speaker 2: real life to where it very frequently Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: you could use the word frequently disturbed individuals who had
Speaker 2: fallen down the QAnon hole acted out in real life violence.
Speaker 2: Not just the comet ping pong guy from North Carolina.
Speaker 2: There's a whole slew of people who have engaged in
Speaker 2: real world violence because of what they learned about from QAnon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: There was one case I remember hearing about this when
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, this guy pled guilty to terrorism charges
Speaker 1: because he got an armored truck and blocked the road
Speaker 1: crossing the Hoover Dam with two assault rifles and had
Speaker 1: a sign that said release the OIG report, which was
Speaker 1: referring to the quote unquote real Mueller report that QAnon
Speaker 1: believers thought provided basically kind of exposed Hillary Clinton's criminal
Speaker 1: activities because I mean, there were a lot of people
Speaker 1: that they targeted, but the Clintons and especially Hillary were
Speaker 1: obviously because she ran against Donald Trump, but she was
Speaker 1: kind of squarely in the crosshairs for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was at the time people were chanting lock
Speaker 2: her up, like she was very much in the crosshairs
Speaker 2: for sure. And Obama still was too. He had just
Speaker 2: finished being president after all when this whole thing started.
Speaker 2: One of the most puzzling acts of violence to me
Speaker 2: in the real world based on QAnon was the assassination
Speaker 2: of a Gambino mafia boss named Francesco Frankie Boy Cali,
Speaker 2: and he was killed by a Quanon supporter who believed
Speaker 2: he was an agent of the deep state, like a
Speaker 2: high up agent of the deep state. I could not
Speaker 2: find anything about what that guy's rationalization was for that.
Speaker 2: But this is the first time since nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 2: This is a twenty twenty one, I think, the first
Speaker 2: time since nineteen eighty five that a mafia boss had
Speaker 2: been assassinated and it was by a QAnon adherent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just really bizarre.
Speaker 2: But if anybody knows why that guy killed him because
Speaker 2: of that, like I would love to hear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing that I don't understand or not understand,
Speaker 1: but I'm really curious about, is whoever Q is Watkinson's
Speaker 1: or not? Like what was their endgame here? Like did
Speaker 1: they really and do they really really believe this stuff?
Speaker 3: Or is it Are they just bad.
Speaker 1: Actors who have a sick I don't know, not sense
Speaker 1: of humor, but maybe sense of humor to try and
Speaker 1: start something like this, or was it financially related or
Speaker 1: do they really believe that it's just that's That's the
Speaker 1: one thing I wish I could find out that we'll
Speaker 1: probably never know.
Speaker 2: I know, and I don't know, but I suspect that
Speaker 2: they don't believe it. I mean, if they're posing as Q,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that they actually believe it,
Speaker 2: you know, well.
Speaker 1: Right, because they're not secret government higher ups that really
Speaker 1: have this information obviously, But I mean, do they really
Speaker 1: believe Tom Hanks is killing and eating children?
Speaker 2: No? I don't. I don't think so. Again, I don't
Speaker 2: know the people. I don't know enough about him to
Speaker 2: really definitively say, but just don't know. I don't think
Speaker 2: that makes.
Speaker 1: It even more sad somehow that it is stretched from
Speaker 1: the darkest reaches in the Internet to literal suburban parents
Speaker 1: who had too much time on their hands between soccer pickups.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a really sad, disturbing act of violence
Speaker 2: based on QAnon that happened in twenty twenty one where
Speaker 2: a man from California killed both of his children, a
Speaker 2: baby and a toddler, with a spear gun because he
Speaker 2: believed that they had gotten reptilian DNA from their mother.
Speaker 2: Because remember, lizard people are walking among us. So he
Speaker 2: said that he knew what he was doing was wrong,
Speaker 2: but it was the only way to save the world.
Speaker 2: And it was because of QAnon. He murdered his two
Speaker 2: children because of QAnon. And like Paul Pelosi is another one.
Speaker 2: He was beaten with a hammer by a guy who
Speaker 2: was driven by q and on motivation. Like the idea,
Speaker 2: I'm with you if the idea that these guys were
Speaker 2: just doing it for lulls and because they were nihilistic
Speaker 2: or even for money, and that it translated into real
Speaker 2: world violence like that is just it's abominable for sure.
Speaker 3: That's right. Are we done?
Speaker 2: No, We've got to give a little bit of an update. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well, I'll start. So there was a really
Speaker 2: big problem because Trump was always in charge as part
Speaker 2: of the QAnon mythos. No matter what was going on,
Speaker 2: Trump was in control, is the way they said it. Well,
Speaker 2: Trump was obviously supposed to be re elected in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't. And so in following with tradition of
Speaker 2: kind of prophetic cults, the people in QAnon just essentially
Speaker 2: were like, Okay, well, this is all just part of
Speaker 2: the act. This is trust in the plan, and they
Speaker 2: kind of rationalized it in all sorts of ways, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of part and parcel for what they've been doing.
Speaker 2: Like the assassination attempt of Trump in Pennsylvania led to
Speaker 2: a huge crisis initially among QAnon followers because because that
Speaker 2: clearly demonstrated Trump wasn't in control if he was getting
Speaker 2: shot at, and some people were like it was stage
Speaker 2: and other people are like, no, no, no, we got it.
Speaker 2: This is proof positive that Trump has been anointed by
Speaker 2: God to bring the storm to overthrow the Satanic cabal,
Speaker 2: because how else could he have not been shot in
Speaker 2: the head by the assassin's bullet. And so I saw
Speaker 2: that some people who kind of left QAnon after Trump
Speaker 2: didn't get elected, came raging back into it after the
Speaker 2: assassination attempt, and there were a lot of families that
Speaker 2: were like, Okay, good my friend or family members back
Speaker 2: and then oh god, there they go again. After the
Speaker 2: assassination attempt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read a really sad article about the guy
Speaker 1: who came into the pizza place about him getting out
Speaker 1: of prison and marrying his girlfriend and having a kid,
Speaker 1: and it was you know, it's just sad, wreckless guy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I bet that's the kind of thing that
Speaker 2: kind of follows you around for life.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 2: One of the other things that happened post election, I
Speaker 2: believe is Michael Flynn was a luminary. Remember, some people
Speaker 2: thought he was Q and he was outed as saying
Speaker 2: privately that he thought the whole thing was total nonsense
Speaker 2: and that he believed actually it was a CIA psyop
Speaker 2: to discredit the Right by making them look foolish and gullible.
Speaker 2: So the whole the community is very much fractured, but
Speaker 2: it's still very much alive. There was a poll that
Speaker 2: found that in May of twenty twenty one, fifteen percent
Speaker 2: of people believed Americans I should say, believed QAnon beliefs
Speaker 2: in some form or fashion. You would think that it
Speaker 2: would have gone down since Trump didn't get re elected.
Speaker 2: In fact, it rose by eight points in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: two years later. So the belief in QAnon just keeps
Speaker 2: spreading and spreading and spreading and becomes more and more mainstream.
Speaker 2: And it's even as it does, it gets kind of
Speaker 2: divorced from QAnon and becomes just what people think about
Speaker 2: things about reality.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I checked out, and I was just thinking in
Speaker 1: my head, I was just hearing what a wonderful warl
Speaker 1: by Louis Armstrong, over and over.
Speaker 2: That's a good. How am I not surprised that you
Speaker 2: do a great Louis Armstrong?
Speaker 3: Oh he's easy.
Speaker 2: I would have guessed you did the izzy Hawaiian guys version.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a fun one too.
Speaker 2: Or no, he did somewhere over the rainbow. I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 3: Somewhere over the rainbow.
Speaker 2: There's one o the things. Let's leave on a semi
Speaker 2: positive note, Chuck. A couple of different places, I saw
Speaker 2: people who were interviewed who had lost a friend or
Speaker 2: family member or hung on to a friend or family
Speaker 2: member while they'd fallen down the Q rabbit hole, and
Speaker 2: the fact that they'd gotten him back, universally was because
Speaker 2: that person stuck with them, let him know they didn't
Speaker 2: agree with them, but they loved them nonetheless, and as
Speaker 2: they put it, provided a soft landing place for the
Speaker 2: people when they finally were like, this isn't real. I
Speaker 2: can't believe that I've believed this for so long. Had
Speaker 2: they were there for them without any kind of judgment
Speaker 2: or cruelty or I told you so, And that helped
Speaker 2: allow the people to kind of get back on their
Speaker 2: feet in a very gentle manner.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of great websites and organizations that
Speaker 1: have now had to help people through this stuff, and
Speaker 1: like how do you help your family members and things
Speaker 1: like that, like you were just talking about. Certainly one
Speaker 1: place you can start is the Anti Defamation League website,
Speaker 1: but there are plenty plenty of places to go so
Speaker 1: you don't just like argue with your family member and
Speaker 1: tell them they're not using you know, rational thought with
Speaker 1: stuff like this. You got you gotta you gotta try
Speaker 1: a different tack there, yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's all sorts of advice all over the internet.
Speaker 2: So if you want to look go find it, uh,
Speaker 2: and be careful what you do look for there, be
Speaker 2: careful of the hashtags you follow. And since I said that,
Speaker 2: obviously it's time for listener mail.
Speaker 1: That's right, a quick not correction, but just enlightening because
Speaker 1: we've had a bunch of people write in already about
Speaker 1: our glasses episode because we could not figure out why
Speaker 1: Livia titled her research four eyes bad.
Speaker 3: And this is from just one of them. Is from Marty.
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, listen to the episode about glass as great
Speaker 1: as usual. I've been wearing glasses for over forty years.
Speaker 1: Regarding the phrase four eyes bad, I believe that as
Speaker 1: a joke reference to the book Animal Farm by George Orwell.
Speaker 1: In the book, the animals use the phrase four legs good,
Speaker 1: two legs bad as they rise against the humans.
Speaker 3: That must be it. Love the show, longtime listener.
Speaker 1: That is from Marty Mishka from Omaha, Nebraska, parentheses living
Speaker 1: in the Blue Dot, and I haven't read Animal Farm
Speaker 1: in so long I completely forgot that, But I bet
Speaker 1: you are right on the money because that's a very
Speaker 1: Livia kind of easter egg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a deep cut literary wise, So nice work, Libya,
Speaker 2: and who is that Marty?
Speaker 3: That was Marty, But many people have written in and
Speaker 3: we'll continue.
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