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Speaker 2: love what we do. We're privileged, we're honored. But there

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Speaker 2: are some nights in like June and July, where we're

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Speaker 2: grinding to get to the finish line of three hours

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Speaker 2: of quality content. Not as much going on today is

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Speaker 2: not one of those days. We gotta talk the game.

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Speaker 2: We gotta talk the Iron Bowl, the Apple Cup, as

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Speaker 2: Washington survives Texas A and M may have a new

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Speaker 2: coach which may lead to a revolt in college station.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, we have a full slate

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Speaker 2: of NFL that started on Thursday. It is going through

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Speaker 2: Monday night, which we'll get to as well. But Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: I actually thought a couple of minutes ago that I

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Speaker 1: would lead off and tell our bosses at Fox like

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Speaker 1: Scott Sapiro and the crew who we love and hope

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Speaker 1: had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Don't pay us tonight because it's

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Speaker 1: just not fair. But this is the night of the

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Speaker 1: week I iron money, so I'm still gonna need the check.

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Speaker 1: But that said, this is basically stealing money, not just

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Speaker 1: because of the football that we have, but because of

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Speaker 1: the news that continues to drop all over the place,

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Speaker 1: including gigantic stories, and just the joy that it is

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Speaker 1: to be with someone like you that loves college football

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Speaker 1: as much as I do and be able to react

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Speaker 1: to this almost in real time. This story kind of

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Speaker 1: just breaking over the last hour of the A and

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Speaker 1: M story, which we will get to, but there's just

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Speaker 1: been so much over the ask couple of days, so

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Speaker 1: much to look ahead to three hours of nowhere near enough.

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Speaker 1: We could talk until tomorrow through the NFL and still

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Speaker 1: have plenty to talk about. So let's make the most

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Speaker 2: Say, Let's make the most of it, and let's start

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Speaker 2: with the game of the day. By the way, we

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Speaker 2: do have multiple reports for multiple outlets that Kentucky head

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Speaker 2: coach Mark Stoops appear set to take the Texas A

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Speaker 2: and m job. Nothing official. Don't suspect that we'll probably

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Speaker 2: get anything tonight, but we will obviously keep you updated

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Speaker 2: on that as the night goes on, and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about it because there are enough credible reports that it

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Speaker 2: feels pretty safe to kind of have that conversation. But Jason,

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Speaker 2: I do want to start the place that, frankly, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure every show has started all day today. That is

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Speaker 2: ann Arbor, Michigan, where the stakes were as high as ever,

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Speaker 2: the circumstances were different. No, Jim Harball, we know everything

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Speaker 2: that has gone on off the field and away from

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Speaker 2: the field for Michigan, But Jason Martin, the results were

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Speaker 2: very much the same. On Saturday, Michigan wins thirty to

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Speaker 2: twenty four. They beat Ohio State for a third straight year.

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Speaker 2: And I'll just be really brief because I want to

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Speaker 2: out to me, we could sit here and break down,

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Speaker 2: and this happened in the second quarter, and this happened

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Speaker 2: in the third quarter. The deciding factor in that game,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, was, for the third straight year, Michigan

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Speaker 2: controlled the line of scrimmage in the fourth quarter, got

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Speaker 2: go when on a thirteen play seven minute or so drive,

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Speaker 2: Kyle McCord with a late interception, but Michigan did what

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Speaker 2: as Michigan takes care of Ohio State again, in large

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Speaker 2: part with a dominating fourth quarter where they dominated the

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Speaker 1: Well, we already knew what their pass rush was, and

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Speaker 1: it was the pass rush that forced the second interception

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Speaker 1: from Acord. I mean it wasn' bad throw by McCord.

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Speaker 1: So there are so many ways that we can discuss

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Speaker 1: But an unreal throw for McCarthy. He had a couple

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Speaker 1: up after an awful first quarter. Just could not get

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Speaker 1: But it was great. And now we have to talk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan Day, And it's interesting you mentioned Kyle McCord

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Speaker 2: because it was interesting, Like I listened to a little

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Speaker 2: bit of you know Ohio State postgame, if you will,

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Speaker 2: and it felt very Kyle McCord heavy, and I felt like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is justin fields at Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is CJ. Stroud, who obviously was

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Speaker 2: even though he didn't beat Ohio State. I didn't come

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Speaker 2: away saying that Kyle McCord. I think if he was great,

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Speaker 2: they probably win that game. But I don't I think

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Speaker 2: he was their biggest problem. Two hundred Yeah. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a great game from him, not great as routive.

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Speaker 2: I thought he did well enough two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: it came down to in the big moments, Michigan had poise.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State really didn't it, not just by the way

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Speaker 2: that final drive. It wasn't just the interception. Remember first play,

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Speaker 2: even if Travion Henderson would have caught it, it would

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Speaker 2: have actually been the worst case scenario because they had

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Speaker 2: no timeouts whatever. By the way, play before Caylevi McCord's

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Speaker 2: because I have not been a fan of Ryan Day.

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Speaker 2: You have not been a fan of Ryan Day. Certainly

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Speaker 2: some questionable things throughout the throughout the game, but the

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Speaker 2: bottom line is this. He is one in three in

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Speaker 2: this in this series against Michigan. The twenty twenty game

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Speaker 2: was canceled, but he's won in three overall, He's lost

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Speaker 2: three straight games to Michigan, and I will just keep

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Speaker 2: it brief. This is a team that over the last

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Speaker 2: three years has had the likes of CJ. Stroud, Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 2: a first rounder this year, Trevion Henderson, J T. Twoy

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Speaker 2: Molow another first rounder this year. Zero wins over Michigan

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Speaker 2: Ten championships, and, barring something insane next week, zero college

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Speaker 2: football playoff appearances. He's paid nine million dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me what he does against Indiana, Don't tell

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Speaker 2: me what he does against Michigan State. He has paid

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Speaker 2: a lot of money to win this game and go,

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Speaker 2: you know, win big ten championships, go to the playoff.

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Speaker 2: I think he once again came up short in a

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Speaker 1: It's hard because it's not that I'm not a fan

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Speaker 1: Ohio State fans don't care if you beat that generally

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Speaker 1: is what this comes down to. Ryan Day has been

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Speaker 1: to the CFP. He was within a wide left field

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Speaker 1: goal of beating Georgia in a CFP in a classic game.

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Speaker 1: He's been so close. But you are made and broken

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Speaker 1: for better or worse, fair or not. You were made

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Speaker 1: or broken in Ohio State and Michigan by how you

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Speaker 1: going to change with a twelve team playoff. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to see whether or not this really was the

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Speaker 1: end of an era in terms of how important this was.

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Speaker 1: But Ryan Day against top five opponents has not been

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Speaker 1: good against Michigan. He's not been good. He's found a

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Speaker 1: way to lose close games in this set. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this one could have gone either way, but it did

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Speaker 1: feel like Michigan was the team that was the aggressor.

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Speaker 1: Scharme wore clearly was the aggressive, hic coach of the two.

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Speaker 1: And that's the same thing we saw last year. Hardball

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Speaker 1: far more aggressive. The knock on Ryan Day is always

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Speaker 1: that he's too conservative, except that early on when he

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Speaker 1: But now he's backed off and become much more conservative,

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Speaker 2: It was the first rid of the game. I was

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Speaker 1: I'm baffled by it because you know you're going You

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Speaker 1: understand it's a field possession game, field position game, and

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Speaker 1: you want to let your defense do some things. But

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Speaker 1: to try and show that we're not gonna be bullied today.

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Speaker 1: We know what the knock is on Ohio State. We

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Speaker 1: will not be bullied. Punting that football felt soft to me.

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Speaker 2: So I'm so glad because I was actually gonna ask

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Speaker 2: you that before you got to it is So Listen,

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Speaker 2: a couple things like Ryan Day isn't the only reason

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Speaker 2: they lost to Day whatever. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: I do believe that your team takes on the attitude

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Speaker 2: whether he wants to admit it or not. Jason, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you this. I was talking to Martin and VJ

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Speaker 2: who we obviously I'm before us, I still go back

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Speaker 2: go back to the lou Holtz thing that we were

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Speaker 2: of you come off a big emotional win and you're

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Speaker 2: worried about what an eighty six year old former head

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Speaker 2: Ryan Day, here's the noise, and Ryan Day cares what

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Speaker 2: people say about him, and so exactly to your point,

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Speaker 2: for a year. You've been telling us we're tough, we're

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Speaker 2: not afraid, we're fearless. We have not taken a back

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Speaker 2: And then on the first possession, and I know you're

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Speaker 2: as you said. But here's the other thing, Jason. We've

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Speaker 2: Not only was JJ McCarthy's comments after the game very interesting,

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back Everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Eric Towards, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: The wish of every Michigan fan is coming through another

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Speaker 2: victory over Ryan Day and the Ohio State buck guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, Jason, for about a half a second,

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Speaker 2: So this is Tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. We're reacting to

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Speaker 2: many things across college football today, Jason, but we're starting

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Speaker 2: with the game itself. Ohio State Michigan. Ohio State loses

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Speaker 2: Before the break, we were talking about Ryan day third

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Speaker 2: we're getting tough for We're getting more physical, We're getting

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Speaker 2: were talking about is Ohio State soft? Are they not.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to it, Jason, you and I

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Speaker 1: For all of you, Ohio State made a big field

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Speaker 1: Jason, I mean, look, when you win the game, especially

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Speaker 1: That's just.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, savage is a good way to put it,

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Speaker 1: Roman Wilson was feeling it, as was everybody else wearing

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Speaker 1: All that's gonna do is just make the rivalry that

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Speaker 1: A few of you.

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Speaker 2: You have already called in Scott in Ohio. Oh, yes, Scott,

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Speaker 2: Are you a buck guy?

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Speaker 6: I'm a buck guy. My daughters go to Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Win, Scott.

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Speaker 2: I I agree, and Jason, I'll say this really quick.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba, we could keep going.

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Speaker 6: You're healthy, you got the tools.

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Speaker 7: Oh they have an.

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Speaker 6: The blueprint, everything was laid out, hand it to him.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think, Scott? What do you think

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Speaker 6: Leave it in the halftime when you got what forty

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Speaker 6: What do I think about him? I like him. I

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, Scott. That was Scott in

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Speaker 1: By the way, just to Scott's point, and we were

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Speaker 1: down with the towards the end of the first half,

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Speaker 1: not you know, taking the shot and going for the

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Speaker 1: fifty two yard field goal. He says, if you go

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Speaker 1: for it on fourth down and don't get it, the

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Speaker 1: other team gets the ball. So I thought at that

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Speaker 1: time the best thing was to go for a field goal.

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Speaker 2: But really quick, if you go for it on fourth

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Speaker 2: down and you don't get it, the other team gets it.

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Speaker 2: This is a winner, go home game. Yes, this is

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Speaker 2: you have lost to them two years in a row,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about this in the opening segment and

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Speaker 2: Scott just mentioned it. It's a mindset. It is a mentality.

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Speaker 2: I'm not by the way, I'm not saying you're Brandon

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Speaker 2: Staley and you always go for it on fourth down.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. But what I am saying

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Speaker 2: is I just thought that opening drive you you you've

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Speaker 2: been talking and I think what Brandan Wilson's Brandan Wilson

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Speaker 2: what Roman Wilson said was one hundred percent correct. You've

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Speaker 2: been talking the talk for two years. You've been telling

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Speaker 2: us how tough you are. You're chirping at eighty six

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Speaker 2: year old Lou Holtz because you don't like what he

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Speaker 2: has to say. Then, in the biggest game, the game

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Speaker 2: that defines you as the Ohio State head coach, the

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Speaker 2: game that you're paid nine million dollars a year to win,

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Speaker 2: the game where they have an interm head coach on

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Speaker 2: the sidelines, you punt it.

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Speaker 1: Jason.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say. Man, Listen, it's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's at the end of the day. Listen.

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Speaker 2: No one's saying he's gonna be fired. That's not That's

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Speaker 2: not what this is about. But this is about when

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Speaker 2: you are the Ohio State coach. You are paid to

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Speaker 2: win this game. You are paid to go to the

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff and win big ten titles. He's not

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Speaker 2: doing it right now. I keep saying it, and I

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Speaker 2: apologize for people at ourn't Ohio State fans that are

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Speaker 2: listen it. But like nobody cares what you do against

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Speaker 2: Rutgers against Michigan State, it matters what you do against

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Speaker 2: Michigan and against the elite of the elite, and he's

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Speaker 2: not getting the job done. Jason, He's just not no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. Like he can beat a

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Speaker 1: bunch of teams that Ohio State fans don't care about,

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Speaker 1: and then he can lose to Michigan and it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: He can, you know, have a whatever the record is,

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Speaker 1: it's something absurd. His record is unreal. It's like fifty

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Speaker 1: five and four or something outside of those outside of

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Speaker 1: the games that we already discussed, the Michigan games in

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Speaker 1: the top five games, but that doesn't matter. At Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: You are not judged on, like you said, Rutgers or

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Speaker 1: Maryland or Purdue or any of that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: You're also not really judged on winning the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: championship game because it's always against Iowa. So that's the

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Speaker 1: same story here. This was the de facto everything for you,

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Speaker 1: and again you did not put yourself aggressively enough. I

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Speaker 1: think actually Scott used the right terminology. He said you

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Speaker 1: set the tone. They didn't. They set the same tone.

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Speaker 1: It was the same song that Michigan thought it was

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Speaker 1: going to be going in. You did not reveal to

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Speaker 1: them that this was going to be a dogfight and

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Speaker 1: a physical war. You reveal to them that if they

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Speaker 1: punch hard enough, we're probably not going to punch back.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jason, we have more calls. Want

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Speaker 2: to come back here? What everybody else has to say?

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Speaker 2: You want to chime in one eight seven, seven ninety

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox one eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six

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Speaker 2: six three sixt' nine. Get to the calls, Get tomorrow

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Michigan, get to some of the rest of

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Speaker 2: the Saturday in college football before we do though News

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Speaker 2: desk first time this evening, Steve Seger, what is trending? Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 8: And the record is for Ryan Day one and six

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Speaker 8: against top five teams, which would make him what, fifty

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Speaker 8: five and one against everybody else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just silly, really, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: and this is why it's so annoying and irrelevant when

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Speaker 2: people are like, wow, I mean, he's fifty seven and seven,

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, but you're paid to win the big one.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to say you're going, Oh, you're right.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look at the incredible success of Cooper at

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Speaker 8: Ohio State just a couple of decades ago. Right back

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Speaker 8: in the nineties and what was the record against Michigan?

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Speaker 8: What do people remember his entire tenures.

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Speaker 2: James Frankl is the same thing. He goes tend to

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Speaker 2: two every year. He loses the two games that matter.

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Speaker 2: It's like, who cares. I don't care win a game

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Speaker 2: that matters.

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Speaker 8: Guys. We must talk about what just happened in the

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Speaker 8: game on Fox TV tonight because we had first off

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Speaker 8: a game in the snow, which was very, very fun

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Speaker 8: to watch, mainly because we're not in it, but it

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Speaker 8: was it was It was fun television and Ohio State

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Speaker 8: won the game at nineteenth rank Kansas State forty two

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Speaker 8: to thirty five. And also kind of amazing is how

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Speaker 8: they won this game. It was one big play after another.

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Speaker 8: It was I'll be detailed. A seventy one yard touchdown

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Speaker 8: run to open the first quarter for Ohio State and

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Speaker 8: also to open the second quarter a seventy seven yard

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Speaker 8: touchdown run, and Iowa State got a seventy nine yard

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Speaker 8: TV pass early third quarter and after that a sixty

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Speaker 8: yard touchdown run and eighty two yard touchdown pass. Aside

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Speaker 8: from those five plays, they only had five first downs

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Speaker 8: the entire game. Iowa State won forty two to thirty five,

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Speaker 8: beating a top twenty team on the road. To finish

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Speaker 8: things up, Iowa State seven and five. So their quarterback

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Speaker 8: was only eight of twelve passing but for two hundred

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Speaker 8: thirty yards and three touchdowns. They had a running back

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Speaker 8: sixteen carries, two hundred and seventy six yards and three touchdowns,

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Speaker 8: and they had a receiver with only three catches but

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Speaker 8: one hundred and sixty yards and two touchdowns. It was

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Speaker 8: that kind of night in the snow, in the rain

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Speaker 8: at number twenty Oklahoma State a double overtime win for

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys, who trailed BYU twenty four to six at

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Speaker 8: the half and still beat the Cougars forty to thirty four.

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Speaker 8: So next Saturday, Oklahoma State against Texas in the Big

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Speaker 8: Twelve Final. And by the way, speaking of Big Twelve,

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Speaker 8: Houston went two and seven in that conference, joining the

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Speaker 8: league losing at UCF. Here today, Baylor finished two and

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Speaker 8: seven in conference, losing at home thirty four to thirty

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Speaker 8: one to West Virginia tonight. Cincinnati joined the Big twelve

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Speaker 8: and went one to eight in conference play. They got

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Speaker 8: killed at home by Kansas tonight forty nine to sixteen.

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Speaker 8: Texas and Oklahoma each won their games yesterday. Next Saturday,

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Speaker 8: Georgia against Alabama in the SEC Title Game. Georgia has

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Speaker 8: won twenty nine games in a row. After the victory

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Speaker 8: at Georgia Tech thirty one twenty three, we have four undefeateds.

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Speaker 8: There are four slots this year for the postseason the

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Speaker 8: College Football Playoff. Georgia twelve and oh after the win.

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Speaker 8: Michigan twelve and oh after beating Ohio State thirty to

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Speaker 8: twenty four. Next Saturday night, Michigan against Iowa in the

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Speaker 8: Big Ten Championship game on Fox TV. Washington twelve and

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Speaker 8: OHO after edging Washington State twenty four to twenty one

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Speaker 8: on a forty two yard field goal on the final play.

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Speaker 8: Florida State twelve and zero, after winning at Florida in

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Speaker 8: a comeback twenty four to fifteen. Seminoles trailed twelve nothing

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Speaker 8: late first half in a battle of backup quarterbacks. Somehow

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Speaker 8: Alabama won at Auburn today. This has happened before. Somehow

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Speaker 8: they win their twenty seven twenty four. This was on

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Speaker 8: a last minute touchdown pass on a fourth and goal

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Speaker 8: at the thirty one. That's all. Kentucky won at number

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Speaker 8: ten Louisville thirty eight thirty one on a thirty seven

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Speaker 8: yard touchdown run with just over a minute left. Victories

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Speaker 8: for ranked teams LSU and Arizona. For Notre Dame and Tennessee,

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Speaker 8: NC State has beaten North Carolina thirty nine to twenty.

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Speaker 8: Clemson won at South Carolina sixteen to seven Tonight number

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Speaker 8: twenty five, Liberty twelve and oh A win at UTAP

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Speaker 8: forty two to twenty eight. Liberty will host next Friday's

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Speaker 8: Conference USA title game against second place New Mexico State

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Speaker 8: New Mexico at four and eight fire coach Danny Gonzalez.

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Speaker 8: Michigan State's new head coach is Jonathan Smith from Oregon State.

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Speaker 8: Texas A and M wants Kentucky's Mark Stoops. Mississippi State

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Speaker 8: wants Oklahoma offensive coordinator Jeff Levy. According to Yahoo and Guys,

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Speaker 8: it is official. As far as the bowl slots this year,

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Speaker 8: we have, if you can believe it, eighty two spots

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Speaker 8: in the bowl games. They're almost all filled. Because South

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Speaker 8: Carolina had a chance to finish five hundred did not.

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Speaker 8: Florida had a chance to finish five hundred and get

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Speaker 8: into a bowl, it did not. So the South Carolina

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Speaker 8: loss guarantees. James Madison is going into a bowl game,

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Speaker 8: and so is Jacksonville State, and so these last two bowls, well,

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Speaker 8: they could be decided tonight. The last two bowl slots

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Speaker 8: could go to Cal which is playing Ucla right now

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Speaker 8: at the Rose Bowl, could go to Colorado State if

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Speaker 8: it wins at Hawaii in the late game. If only

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Speaker 8: one of those two win, according to longtime writer Brett McMurphy,

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Speaker 8: then Minnesota at five and seven would be in. But

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Speaker 8: as far as the late games here, Cal is leading

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Speaker 8: six to nothing at Ucla. That game is early in

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Speaker 8: the second quarter. And on FS one, Fresno State leads

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Speaker 8: seven to six at San Diego State. That game's in

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Speaker 8: the second quarter. Colorado State leading at Hawaii seven to nothing,

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Speaker 8: late first quarter, and they're starting the fourth quarter. In

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Speaker 8: the other late game, Wyoming ahead at Nevada thirty five

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Speaker 8: to six.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox

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Speaker 2: at discovered dot com slash match. We've spent most of

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Speaker 2: the first hour Jason talking about the thriller. I guess

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Speaker 2: you could maybe call it. Michigan beats Ohio State thirty

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Speaker 2: year in a row. Ryan Day, third straight lost to

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. Our third straight loss at Ohio State to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: And what I do want to do now is go

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Speaker 2: back to the phone lines. We have somebody waiting for

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Speaker 2: a while here. Michelle, also from Ohio. Michelle, you're joining

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Speaker 2: Airic TOURUS. Michelle, how you doing?

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Speaker 9: You?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 7: I'm you guys doing We're good?

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Speaker 2: Are you an Ohio State fan?

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Speaker 7: Hell?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: WHOA?

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Speaker 7: Sorry? All right now, I've been a Michigan fan since

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Speaker 7: I was little. My dad was Michigan, my grandpa was

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Speaker 7: professor there. I'm an alumni, but I currently live in Columbus, Okay,

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Speaker 7: and I know quite a bit of I know quite

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Speaker 7: a bit about college football, and so I'm looking back,

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Speaker 7: I'm like, looks at you, guys, because I'm on my

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Speaker 7: way home back from Michigan, and I'm listening back and

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Speaker 7: I'm going Okay, science dealer knows science Lane whatever he got.

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Speaker 3: It, you know.

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Speaker 7: And so my thing is the beginning of the season

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Speaker 7: when when Ryan Day went off on the eighty six

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Speaker 7: year old Lou Holt, who's a god of college football

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Speaker 7: back in the day, you know, going off, Oh my god,

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Speaker 7: where is you know, current kicking and screaming because you

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Speaker 7: know we're sawt blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: You know, here we go real quick. I just have

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Speaker 2: one thing to say, Michelle. If Jason Martin is ever out,

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Speaker 2: are you available to co host with me? Because we're

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Speaker 2: vibe We're vibing hard right now on Ryan Day. So

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Speaker 2: you're a Michigan fan, Is there any fear from you

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Speaker 2: as a Michigan fan in Ryan Day? Because this is

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Speaker 2: not a knock on Michigan but Ohio State. Okay, go

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Speaker 2: ahead to floor? Is yours? Go ahead?

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Speaker 7: So my thing is, so we go we fast forward

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Speaker 7: to into October. Oh my god, signs stealing, sign stealing.

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Speaker 7: They knew I saw our signs. We knew we had

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Speaker 7: our they knew we knew they saw our signs last

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Speaker 7: year and we just knew it. But if that were

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Speaker 7: the case, why did Ryan Day cried about it last year?

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Speaker 7: When he got beat at home at home in Columbus.

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Speaker 7: We're just saying, you know, there was a factor in play.

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Speaker 7: But now he waited until about a month and a

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Speaker 7: half before the big game, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: sparks fly, you know whatever who it is he gets

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Speaker 7: so harvagus the three game suspension. Basically winning today was

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Speaker 7: like basically an fu sorry, you know, you know what

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Speaker 7: I mean. It was like two years ago. I was

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Speaker 7: at the stadium tiers. I was at both games. I

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Speaker 7: was at last year's game and I was at the

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Speaker 7: one two years ago in twenty twenty one. The atmosphere

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Speaker 7: was totally different. I was sitting there. It was snowing.

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Speaker 7: You know, you never know, it was a different atmosphere.

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Speaker 7: I felt the vibe. But you know, enis never know

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Speaker 7: it's a game, is like you still kne who was

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Speaker 7: gonna win. It's like it's a it's a sauce. But

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Speaker 7: no going into the game today though, going intoday's game,

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Speaker 7: I felt confident because our boys looked confident. I didn't

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Speaker 7: see confidence in the heror I didn't see confidence Bryan

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Speaker 7: days t and like she said, the friend for instance,

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Speaker 7: at first play, he he you know, kicks some off.

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Speaker 7: Why would you do that? I mean that show's right there.

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Speaker 7: You don't have any way boats and you you don't

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Speaker 7: have any belief in your team, you know, and here

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Speaker 7: comes Michigan rod to get to four and want boom

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Speaker 7: boom boom boom.

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Speaker 2: So Michelle really quick. So bottom line, because we got

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Speaker 2: to get to break here, you're not afraid of Rite.

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Speaker 2: So you have no fear Ryan. Now, because this is

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Speaker 2: this is my take that I have yet to share publicly,

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Speaker 2: I now think that the biggest threat to Michigan if

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Speaker 2: assuming there's nothing crazy with the NCAA, I actually think

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Speaker 2: Dan Lanning in Oregon is as much of a threat

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Speaker 2: to Michigan as Ohio State's because I think there is

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Speaker 2: no fear for Michigan, and I think Ohio State is

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Speaker 2: petrified of Michigan, whether they'll ever public It's like.

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Speaker 7: It's like I'm gonna call him the Ryan. I'm calling

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Speaker 7: him Ryan Cooper. He's Ryan Cooper. He was gion't forget

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Speaker 7: about the Cooper era. You know the Cooper are Wait

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Speaker 7: mean you guys died it for last ten years? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: but you th wrought about the Cooper era. Go back

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Speaker 7: in the Cooper arey Okay, okay, Brian Cooper, you're in

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Speaker 7: your era.

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Speaker 2: Now, Michelle.

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Speaker 1: That good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Incredible call. Like I said, we'll let you know next time.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin is out. Jason, if i'm can you tell me.

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Speaker 7: You can you call me anytime? I'm your girl?

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Speaker 2: All right? That is Michelle the Michigan I might need

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Speaker 2: a weekend off at some point, so just get her

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Speaker 2: number down there, Patrick, Yeah, that is Michelle the Michigan

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Speaker 2: alum who lives in Columbus, and I think she's taken

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Speaker 2: the long route home from ann Arbor tonight just to

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Speaker 2: soak it all in. We'll come back. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: some of what Michelle said. We do got to talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about the Iron Bowl, Jason, which was

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Speaker 2: a thriller in its own right, and of course the

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Speaker 2: what we expect to be late breaking news coming out

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Speaker 2: of college station.

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Speaker 1: This whole this last thing you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I bet we got a lot of

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Speaker 2: Michelle's in college station ready to chime in on the

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Speaker 2: potential hire at Texas A. And and we'll come back talk

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Speaker 2: about all this busy, busy, busy night of college football.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torris Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thee Tyreck dot Com studios, Bortop, Lorena.

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Speaker 2: It is officially Christmas music season here at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for getting us in the mood. Jason,

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Speaker 2: I'd be remiss. You know, we haven't even talked about

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Speaker 2: the other We had an iconic finish in the Iron Bowl,

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Speaker 2: so I want to set this up, Jason. I don't

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Speaker 2: think i've ever seen this. Kay muffed punt by Auburn.

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Speaker 2: They're up twenty four twenty at this point, Okay, uh

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Speaker 2: muff punt. Alabama goes on a nine play thirty yard

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Speaker 2: drive that spans four to sixteen. I'm gonna reach you

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Speaker 2: the final couple plays. They have a third and twenty.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe rushes for nineteen yards to set up fourth

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Speaker 2: and one.

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Speaker 1: Now, wait a second, you gotta go one play before that, okay,

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Speaker 1: because they were goal to go basically way inside the

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Speaker 1: red zone inside the ten, and there was a bad

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Speaker 1: snap that went twenty yards back that Milroe had to

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Speaker 1: go grab and that's what put them at third and twenty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so third and twenty. After the bad snap, Jam

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Speaker 2: has a nineteen yard run to set up fourth and one.

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Speaker 2: They convert the fourth down. Then there's another bad snap.

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Speaker 2: Then Jalb Milroe has a personal foul called on him

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Speaker 2: because he ran past the lot of his grimmity to

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Speaker 2: try to complete a.

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Speaker 1: Pass four yards like that wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: By four yards. It wasn't even close. It set up

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Speaker 2: a fourth and thirty one. They had to convert this

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Speaker 2: play to keep their college football playoff hopes alive. And Lorena,

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Speaker 2: do we have the sound fourth and.

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Speaker 10: Goal from the thirty one yard line. Here's the snap.

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Speaker 10: Milroe stands in, lets everybody get downfield, still standing, he

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Speaker 10: throws into the ends.

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Speaker 1: Caught It's it's.

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Speaker 10: Caught by Isaiah Bond in the corner of the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown al Obama. All right, So that was the Alabama

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Speaker 2: radio network. Eli Gold is a legend. He's had health problems.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to diminish his you know, he's a legend.

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Speaker 2: Him and whoever is color compensator did not sell that

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Speaker 2: very well Jason, fourth and thirty one with the season

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Speaker 2: on the line. I don't think that they even thought

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Speaker 2: that pass was complete. Thirty one yard touchdown pass with

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Speaker 2: what how I don't even know how much time was

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Speaker 2: unbelievable finish. Alabama wins, Alabama survives. Alabama is going to

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Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game next week to play Georgia with

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Speaker 2: a chance to play their way into the college football playoff.

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Speaker 1: So the best NAPA was talking about was the one

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Speaker 1: you referenced. I had it wrong and when it happened.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that play apparently is called the grave digger. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw that. Afterwards. Isaiah Bond actually announced him because

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Speaker 1: they asked Saban, and Saban talks about yeah, we practice it,

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Speaker 1: but if it had a name, I wouldn't tell you.

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Speaker 1: That's the most Saban answer of all time. And then

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Speaker 1: Bond was like, it's a grave digger because its purpose

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Speaker 1: is to put up on sleep and saving the head admitted,

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Speaker 1: and I think Milroe and a few others said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, we tried this in practice quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: It hadn't actually come together, like, we haven't actually pulled

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Speaker 1: it off. So they pulled it off in this moment,

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Speaker 1: You're right, like it was kind of a muted call.

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Speaker 1: Eli Gold is unreal. He's so good and everything he's

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Speaker 1: ever done, and in that moment, maybe there's just kind

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Speaker 1: of a shock to it, I think, because it's so amazing.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to know just what it really was,

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Speaker 1: watch the video on ESPN dot com of Herbstreet and

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Speaker 1: fowl Yes live during the pregame of Florida and Florida State,

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Speaker 1: like they lost it inside the booth. And I was

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Speaker 1: in a press box the night of the kick six

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Speaker 1: and I saw that happen towards the end of the

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Speaker 1: football game I was covering, and that was insane. This

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Speaker 1: was absolutely insane. I was standing pretty much in the

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Speaker 1: end zone, on the side of the end zone where

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Speaker 1: Tua threw the touchdown to Ridley to beat Georgia in

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Speaker 1: the National Championship game. This may have been the biggest

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Speaker 1: play I've seen Alabama make sense then in terms of

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Speaker 1: an ender.

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Speaker 2: No, and they said, you know, from the Alabama perspective,

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Speaker 2: it might be, you know, maybe the greatest greatest Iron

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Speaker 2: Bowl moment in recent memory. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: the greatest win. I'm not a historian. Whatever, but they

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Speaker 2: get the win. Nick Saban said, He's like, we've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of bad stuff happened to us at this stadium.

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Speaker 2: For once something good. Alabama wins. Alabama survives SEC Championship

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Speaker 2: game next week. Fox Sportato, Welcome man, everybody, Hour two

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Speaker 2: of Torres and Martin. This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Live. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: lot of Ohio State Michigan. Michigan wins a third straight

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Speaker 2: over Ohio State. This with an interim head coach, took

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Speaker 2: some very great phone calls from a couple people in

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Speaker 2: Ohio won a devastated Ohio State fan. One an ecstatic

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Speaker 2: Michigan fan talked a little bit about the Iron Bowl thriller.

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Speaker 2: But one thing I do want to do, Jason is

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Speaker 2: switch gears to what may or may not be breaking news, So.

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Speaker 1: I tell you whether it is or not, this could

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Speaker 1: carry the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I want to I want to set the

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Speaker 2: tone here. So obviously, biggest coaching job that is available

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Speaker 2: is the Texas A and M job. As of an

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Speaker 2: hour ago, Richard Johnson from Sports Illustrated Sources tell Bypad

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Speaker 2: forty and Me that Mark Stoops has emerged as a

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Speaker 2: leading candidate at Texas A and M, but a deal

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Speaker 2: is not done. That countered with a report round on

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Speaker 2: the same time from twenty four to seven Sports Breaking

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M is set to highre Kentucky head

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Speaker 2: coach Mark Stoops as its next head coach. Stoops has

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Speaker 2: compiled a seventy three and sixty four record as Kentucky's

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Speaker 2: head coach and is the winningest coach in program history. So,

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Speaker 2: as I said, you know, it felt like leading the show.

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Speaker 2: It felt pretty close to official, even if it wasn't

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Speaker 2: official that Mark Stoops was gonna be the next head coach.

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Speaker 2: Then just moments ago I saw this from Brent Zwnnerman

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Speaker 2: Houston Chronicle. Let me find this exact tweet. This is

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Speaker 2: all on social media. I should clarify in case I

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Speaker 2: have not made myself clear. Brentz Wenerman, let me find

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Speaker 2: the tweet. I somehow lost it in the matter of seconds.

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Speaker 2: But what he tweeted as of fifteen minutes ago, I

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Speaker 2: will add this. Any reports that say Mark Stoops to

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Speaker 2: Texas A and m is a done deal are premature

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Speaker 2: and inaccurate. Jason, here's what's funny. You'll have that all

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Speaker 2: yours brother.

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Speaker 1: One hour ago, Houston Chronicle dot Com reports Texas A

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Speaker 1: and m Aggie's preparing to hire Mark Stoops as head coach.

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Speaker 2: Who I did not see this?

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Speaker 1: So the same guy or the same journalistic outlet that

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Speaker 1: an hour ago said one thing, Britzwidnerman is now saying

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Speaker 1: WHOA who hold up? Well, you might want to check

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Speaker 1: on your own newsroom there, brother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, by the way, Brent's winner. I'm not here

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Speaker 2: to pick on this guy, but I think he was

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Speaker 2: the guy that put out a report here you go

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Speaker 2: five hours ago. So I don't know if Brent Swinnderman

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Speaker 2: is the most trustworthy source. Five hours ago, Clemson's Dabosweeney

863
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: emerges as one to keep an eye on concerning Texas

864
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: A and m opening Tigers play at South Carolina today.

865
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Bottom line, let me say this, Okay, Texas A and M.

866
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: I believe as of an hour ago, every credible reporter

867
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: that I saw YEP was trending towards if this is

868
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: not done, it is pretty close. Pete Thamel, by the way,

869
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: it's worth noting, said on College Game Day today Mark

870
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Stoops was going expected to be emerges a front runner

871
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: over the next twenty four hours. Nicole Auerback from the

872
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: Athletic at NBC Sports said something basically confirmed Pete Damil's report.

873
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: Every indication all day was that Mark Stoops was set

874
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: to at was at the very least the favorite to

875
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: be the Texas A and M head coach, even if

876
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: nothing was official. I bring it up, Jason, I don't

877
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: know if if everyone has bad information, if Texas A

878
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: and M has gotten the vibes of their fan base.

879
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: The one thing I could tell you, I don't know

880
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 2: that I have seen a single Texas A and M fan,

881
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: a Texas A and M fan account, anyone say that

882
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: this is a good hire. So Mark Stoops, to be clear,

883
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: winning his coach, a Kentucky history, all of that. He

884
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 2: is also a guy he's got It's hard to say,

885
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: Mark Jason, because he is a guy that obviously has

886
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: one of the tougher jobs in the SEC. He could

887
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: argue maybe the second toughest job in that conference, last

888
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: since twenty sixteen, seven and six, seven and six, ten

889
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: and three, eight and five, five and six in the

890
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: co COVID season ten and three, seven and six, seven

891
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: and five, So it is not an easy job. But

892
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: it also does feel like, for the most part, barring

893
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: something very weird, he's a guy that's about seven and five.

894
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: He's not gonna lose you a bunch of really bad games,

895
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: but in the big games, he's not gonna win you

896
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: anything incredible either. Play Georgia this year lost fifty one

897
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: to thirteen. Played Alabama this year lost forty one to

898
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: twenty nine. I could go on and on, but I

899
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what to make of this. By the way,

900
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: Missouri's a ten win team. This year, they lost thirty

901
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: eight to twenty one at home. It just feels to

902
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: me like if this was trending towards official feels like Texas,

903
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: A and M may have gotten wind of the fan base.

904
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it, but as

905
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: of an hour ago, it seemed like it was all

906
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: but done. Now it feels as though it might not

907
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: quite be be that way. The floor is George Jayson.

908
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: So you know where I do the show from Nashville, Tennis, Usville. Yes,

909
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 1: you know who I worked for at the time that

910
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: Greg Ciano was named the head coach at Tennessee. I

911
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: worked for and was the executive producer for a gentleman

912
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: by the name of Clay Travis. I saw this up

913
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: close and personal. I saw the.

914
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: People get please just give everyone a quick, quick, quick refreshment.

915
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: In short, Greg Ciana was not popular as a choice,

916
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: even though it was like it was going to be

917
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: a done deal.

918
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: It was leaked, but it never was official official. Right,

919
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: Am I mistaken on that go ahead?

920
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 7: Yeah?

921
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I believe you're right. It doesn't even

922
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: matter based up because it was all about the reaction.

923
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: It was about the torches and pitchforks, basically coming out,

924
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: even to the extent that it was time to tie

925
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: Greg Ciano to the Penn State scandal if need be,

926
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: to try and make sure he was not going to

927
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: be the head coach at the University of Tennessee. It

928
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: was not a great moment for the over zealous fan

929
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: that in that spot. And I've talked to some of

930
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: them since, many of them as a matter of fact,

931
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: and some of them still say he didn't end up

932
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: to coach. It didn't matter what we had to do.

933
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: It's like, Wow, that's how much this counts. And what

934
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: I have seen over the past hour hour and a

935
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: half is that people are reporting that what's happening in

936
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: College station, what's happening amongst the A and M fan base,

937
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: is worse than what was happening here. If that's true,

938
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can hire Mark Stoops, even

939
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: if he's sitting in your office right now with an

940
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: ink pit. You may you may need to take you

941
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: may need to take the pen, whatever it is, take

942
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: it out of his hand, because I don't know that

943
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: you can handle that smoke.

944
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: I am going to read you a text from a

945
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: buddy of mine who's a former player. It's actually two texts,

946
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: he said. But first of all, he said, will be

947
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: the most disappointed I've ever been in our university. We

948
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: deserve every bit of explotive about to come our way.

949
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, this is a nice Christian man doesn't

950
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: like to swear. He Then I said I feel bad

951
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: for you. I said he's perfect for Kentucky. Don't like

952
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: to fit and where the text chain ended because I

953
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: was about to come on air with you Texas A

954
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: and M former player, we are a joke. I'm honestly

955
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: sick to my stomach. So that is where we are

956
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: at from the Texas A and M perspective. And what

957
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: I would say Jason really quick is, first of all,

958
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: let me even backtrack, so to go back to the

959
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: Chiano stuff. Okay, obviously the point you brought up, and

960
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 2: I think it gets lost sometimes is that basically there

961
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: was some stuff that got loosely tied to Chiano that

962
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: really wasn't fair. But at the same time, what I

963
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: would also say, I do think the sentiment that you know,

964
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: listen it was it was Clay. I like Clay, You

965
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: worked with Clay. I worked with Clay previously as well.

966
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: I the sentiment that a fan base just has to

967
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: accept that, like like I understand that we live in

968
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: a world of TV media deals and all that, and

969
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: like fans don't necessarily pay all the bills, but fans

970
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: pay for a lot, and the idea that a fan

971
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 2: base just has to accept the hire because the ad

972
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: or the school president or whomever says this is the guy,

973
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: believe in him. Like, I don't know if that's that

974
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: was always the case in the pre internet era or whatever,

975
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: but I don't think you have to if you're a

976
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: fan base, just sit there and take it lying down.

977
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: So it's clear that there's some disconnects, some discomfort whatever.

978
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you before I agree with that

979
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: sentiment entirely, Like I don't think so either. I certainly

980
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: think you should be able to voice your opposition to it,

981
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: and we have the opportunity to do that. My only objection,

982
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: and I think most people's it's not that they and

983
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: I didn't think Shianna was going to be that get

984
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: a hire either, and he was coming off a disastrous

985
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: tenure in the NFL, and a lot of reports that

986
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: had come out of him were about him were not

987
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: flattering at that point, but we had seen him have

988
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: success in college football. That's it. If you don't want

989
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: to be the coach to say he's not good enough.

990
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: The problem was the lengths to which, sure I agree

991
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: that individuals went in that case to make sure it

992
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen. It's just like on the merits.

993
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: It wasn't a great hire in the eyes of a

994
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: lot of Tennessee fans. He didn't seem to fit the

995
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee mold. He didn't seem to fit the SEC mold.

996
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: All of that I'm a million percent agreed with. And again,

997
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: you want a voice opposition in that way, that's fine.

998
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: It was just the degree that ended up being a

999
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: bad look.

1000
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: So really quick, let's get into the potential higher itself.

1001
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: People just joining us. There were reports as of an

1002
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: hour ago from basically every major media outlet that if

1003
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops wasn't officially the Texas A and the next

1004
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: Texas A and M head coach, that he would be

1005
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: almost certainly the guy going forward. Nothing official, whatever, but

1006
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: it seemed that it was trending that way. Bring it up, because,

1007
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: as we just reported, the Houston Chronicle reported that any

1008
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: talk of Mark Stoops being the head coach is premature.

1009
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: I bring it up. Let's say, let's say Mark Dupes

1010
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: is the guy. Okay, keeping in mind that it is

1011
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: one of the He's coming from Kentucky, which is one

1012
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: of the toughest jobs in the SEC. First three years

1013
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: he went two and ten, five and seven, five and seven.

1014
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: Every year since then, except for the COVID year of

1015
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, he's won at least seven games, but overall

1016
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: he's just seventy three and sixty four thirty five and

1017
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: fifty five in the sec Given that the job is

1018
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 2: as tough as it is, given that, he will inherit

1019
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: if he could just keep the eighty five guys or

1020
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: however many are left in that locker room. In that

1021
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: locker room, he will inherit the most talented roster he

1022
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: ever has he's ever had. Do you like the higher

1023
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: given that, or do you like the potential for the

1024
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: higher or is it still I just don't believe in

1025
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: him as being that guy.

1026
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: So I'm torn because I think he's earned the opportunity

1027
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: for a big job, because I think he's done an

1028
00:51:53,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: awesome job. But he is literally flipping the script. He

1029
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: is everything that he has been associated with, he's going

1030
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: to be associated with the opposite. He's been at a

1031
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: basketball school with zero pressure on the football program, virtually none.

1032
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: It's one of the easiest jobs in the country. You

1033
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: say it's one of the hardest jobs. It's one of

1034
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: the hardest to win. And he's done an awesome job there.

1035
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: He made them relevant to some degree. He made them

1036
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: competitive on a year in, year out basis. He started

1037
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: challenging for higher roles in the SEC East, but no

1038
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: one cared. They were still looking for basketball season. I

1039
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: know Kentucky football fans that would and have disagree with me,

1040
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: but I lived in that state for years and they

1041
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: didn't care, and they still generally don't to the degree

1042
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: that many of the other schools in the SEC and

1043
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: the Big Ten and all these other places do. So

1044
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: him going there and winning seven games, winning eight games,

1045
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: being competitive, not being a complete joke or being irrelevant,

1046
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: that's enough for a while, at the very least at

1047
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: a place like Kentucky. He's going from no pressure to

1048
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: a pressure cooker, and not just a pressure cooker, but

1049
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: a school with a fan base and alumni that act

1050
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: as if they've won seven of the last ten national

1051
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: championships that they're entitled to it. It's frustrating the way

1052
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: they behave because if you go back through their history,

1053
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tradition there. It's a great school,

1054
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 1: it's a great environment. Obviously, they ain't won much. They're

1055
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: not a national championship contending school. But they behave as

1056
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: if they're like Texas but worse because they don't even

1057
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: have Mac Brown to look back on. Like Kevin Someone

1058
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: got ran out of town? Was something really wrong with

1059
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: what Kevin Someone was doing. No, something was wrong with

1060
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: the expectations of what Texas A and M thought they

1061
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: were in the landscape of college football. That's why like

1062
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops is actually probably about the hire that a

1063
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: Texas A and M has proven through the year that

1064
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: they should get. But it's not who they think they

1065
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: should have because of the money that they possessed and

1066
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: their facilities and now with college football the way that

1067
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: it is, Mark Stoops is not a big enough name

1068
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: for Texas A and M to give a shot to

1069
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: in the eyes of their fans of their alumni. So

1070
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm torn because I think he I don't know if

1071
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: he can do it. I'm skeptical because he's going from

1072
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: a place where he's over performed with less to a

1073
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: place where he'd better perform with a whole lot more,

1074
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 1: and that is a completely different ball game.

1075
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: Tell you what, I got a few more thoughts on this,

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Speaker 2: but what I want to do is once again open

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Speaker 2: up the phone lines. I know we have a lot

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Speaker 2: of college football fans that listen to us every Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: We want you to call in one eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: six six three six ' nine. Again the phone number

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Speaker 2: one eight seven seven nine ninety six six three six ' nine.

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Speaker 2: We want your thoughts on a potential. Mark Stoops higher

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Speaker 2: at Texas A and M. Promise we'll come back, we'll

1085
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: react to, we'll hear from you. Then we'll share some

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Speaker 2: thoughts and of course get to a busy NFL slate

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Speaker 2: as well. There is a lot of NFL to talk

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Speaker 2: about as well. Come back talk. Mark Stoops should mention,

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Speaker 2: by the way, speaking of football, you already know football fans,

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Speaker 2: eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six six three six nine,

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about this Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M potential higher and of course look ahead to the

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Speaker 2: NFL weekend ahead. This is welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Gonna be a very merry Christmas in College Station, Texas

1108
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: because we went to break talking about Mark Stoops, the

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00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: head coach at Kentucky, as not only the potential candidate,

1110
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: but as of an hour ago, twenty four to seven

1111
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: Sports said that it was trending that it was done.

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00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated said that it was trending as it was

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00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: gonna be done. Matt Jones, Kentucky Sports Radio. Who I

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00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: know Matt personally. I believe we might be on in

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00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: Lexington right now. I think we might be on in

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Speaker 2: Louisville as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say he knows what he's talking about.

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: Matt is as plugged in as anybody in Lexington on

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00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: the Kentucky Beat. Breaking while we were off air, I

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Speaker 2: am told by a very good source that work Stoops

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00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: is staying at Kentucky. I follow that up with Billy Lucci,

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: who is the Matt Jones of the Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M Beat. He is basically the best Texas A and

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Speaker 2: M N center of techsags dot com. He then tweeted

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Speaker 2: four minutes later, I can confirm Matt's breaking news here,

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00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: fully expecting Stoops to remain in Lexington. So we went

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00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: to break wondering if there was going to be a

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Speaker 2: revolt in College station, or if there may be was

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00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: already a revolt in College station. Whether there was or not,

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00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops will not be the head coach, Jason. We're

1131
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: speculating live on air here. This is the fun part

1132
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: of what we do, and I should probably send out

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: a tweet let everybody know that we're talking about this

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00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: live on air here.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. Send that tweet out.

1136
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set you up and I'm gonna ask you

1137
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: a question. Because now we can get all conspiracy theory

1138
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: ish about what has happened and what has transpired and

1139
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: what was real and what was fugezy about this entire

1140
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: situation that has taken place over the last half day

1141
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: or so and certainly has gotten wild over the last

1142
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: three four hours. Was Mark Stoops the guy at any

1143
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: point during this situation?

1144
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Speaker 7: Like?

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00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: How real was this an hour ago compared to where

1146
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 1: we find ourselves right now? Like the report that Matt

1147
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Jones put out, the report that tech SAgs has confirmed

1148
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: and we've seen it now confirmed everywhere else over the

1149
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: last like just literally like last five minutes, folks, we

1150
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: were coming back to talk about what was going to

1151
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: happen to A and M potentially and if something was

1152
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: going to change it, and then we come back and

1153
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: it has changed. The question is was it going to happen?

1154
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: And they saw what was coming, remembered Knoxville and decided Nope,

1155
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Speaker 1: I guess we can't do this or is there something

1156
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: else at play here?

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00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: So I believe that this was very much a thing.

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00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. One we had all the

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: reports from all the different hours it started on college

1160
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Speaker 2: game day. This morning, Pete Thamil said, we expect him

1161
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Speaker 2: to emerge as the favorite in the next twenty four hours.

1162
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Speaker 2: But something you and I and Bo were texting about early.

1163
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: By the way, I was driving home from Thanksgiving in Vegas.

1164
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: We left at five am Pacific, eight am Eastern so

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Speaker 2: I could be home in time for the Michigan Ohio

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Speaker 2: State game. So I was up at five am Pacific

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Speaker 2: texting my little fingers off with you and Bo. Bo

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Speaker 2: was of course producing all the great shows that we

1169
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Speaker 2: have on in the morning. But why I think it

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: was absolutely a thing. It's because I think this was

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Speaker 2: the window that Mark Stoops had to get out of Kentucky. Okay, Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: He's done incredible work. He's the best coach that they've

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Speaker 2: had since Bear Bryan. Okay, So like this isn't a

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Speaker 2: knock on him. But we've talked about the fact that

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Speaker 2: it is a pretty hard job. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I believe that that first of all, I think, especially

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Speaker 2: coming into today, remember they were a touchdown underdog against

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Speaker 2: their rival Louisville. They lose that game, they go to

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Speaker 2: six and six, they ended up winning, but coming into

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Speaker 2: today they're looking at a six and sixth season. It

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00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: is the second straight year that they have dipped since

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Speaker 2: winning ten games two years ago. And I bring it

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Speaker 2: up because we know what the SEC is about to

1184
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: look like a year from now. Not only is Texas

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01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma coming, this is an important part. Not only

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: Texas and Oklahoma coming, but we are losing divisions, and

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Speaker 2: Kentucky has kind of had a nice little built in

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Speaker 2: advantage with the divisions. They play Vanderbilt every year, they

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Speaker 2: play South Carolina, who up until the last two years,

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Speaker 2: they have largely owned. Over the last decade, they also

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Speaker 2: have an annual cross division game against Mississippi State. Well,

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01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: now Alabama's gonna be on the schedule more often, LSU

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Speaker 2: is going to be Texas and Oklahoma are going to

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Speaker 2: be once every two years. So I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because this was the window where he had the chance

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Speaker 2: to get out when he still kind of had a name.

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Speaker 2: And so to answer your question, I don't, I can't,

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Speaker 2: I'm not Matt Jones. I can't speak to the fact

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Speaker 2: that he was definitely trying to get out, But I

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: believe that this was the window where he felt like

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: he had to because it is never gonna get easier

1202
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: it Canentucky than it is, and obviously this was an

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: opportunity for him to leave and we That is why

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Speaker 2: I believe that there was absolute smoke to this until

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Speaker 2: that fire was put out by the brimstone breathing Texas

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Speaker 2: A and M fans.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean, I tend to agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your your opinion on it

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: in the moment. The thing about this that I'm really

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Speaker 1: curious about now is what does this mean for Mark

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Speaker 1: Stoops going forward? And I don't necessarily even mean just

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Speaker 1: to Kentucky, but he would have still been a pretty

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: hot name for a lot of jobs. Again, I think

1214
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Speaker 1: he's earned the right for a lot of jobs. But

1215
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: is he now a little bit tainted because of this

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Speaker 1: whole thing, Like because of you know, he's got same

1217
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: agent as Jimbo Fisher. He was Jimbo's defensive coordinator. So

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: we had all sorts of storylines coming out of this,

1219
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: this this scenario very very early on. But does this

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Speaker 1: somehow stick to Mark Stoops in a negative way that

1221
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Speaker 1: this has kind of gone the way it has, Because Man,

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01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: the story that's going to be written about the last

1223
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Speaker 1: six hours, and these are going to be some great

1224
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: articles in the coming days, are not going to be

1225
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: flattering towards Mark Stoops because basically a fan base stood

1226
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: up and was just like, uh, that's a no for me. Dog.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The The Athletic, you know, six

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01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: thousand word feature story on this about two weeks from now,

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Speaker 2: is going to be incredible. Tell you what, Jason, I

1230
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: want to come back. I want to react more to this,

1231
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: the breaking news Mark Stoops, who was trending to be

1232
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Speaker 2: the next Texas A and M head coach. It appears

1233
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: as though that is off more reaction coming up before

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01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: we do, though, Do you want to toss it over

1235
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Speaker 2: the news desk? Steve de Sega, the floor is yours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The Athletic just tweeted, by the way, what will you

1238
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 8: remember most about the Mark Stoops era at Texas A

1239
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 8: and M.

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Speaker 1: It's a great one.

1241
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 8: Michigan State's new head coaches, Jonathan Smith from Oregon State

1242
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 8: a M want in Kentucky's Mark Stoops, as you hear,

1243
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 8: apparently staying Mississippi State, according to Yahoo, wants Oklahoma offensive

1244
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 8: coordinator Jeff Levy. In late night college football halftime at

1245
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 8: the Rose Bowl, cal leads at UCLA twenty to seven.

1246
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 8: They've started the third quarter at San Diego State on

1247
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 8: FS one, the Aztecs leading Fresno State sixteen to ten.

1248
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 8: Fresno with a record of eight and three. Wyoming has

1249
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 8: already won at Nevada forty two to six. Nevada finishes

1250
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 8: two and ten. The late night game is Hawaii hosting

1251
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,959
Speaker 8: and now leading Colorado State fourteen to ten late second quarter.

1252
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Speaker 8: As we mentioned earlier in the show, Colorado State needs

1253
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 8: this win to be Bowl eligible. Same with cal Those

1254
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 8: two teams are each five and six. It's pretty easy

1255
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 8: at the moments. As far as the top four in

1256
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 8: college football, we have four undefeateds among the majors, four

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 8: twelve and zero teams, Georgia one of them. They'd won

1258
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Speaker 8: twenty nine games in a row. In fact, Georgia won

1259
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Speaker 8: at Georgia Tech tonight thirty one twenty three. It was

1260
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 8: thirty one thirteen to start the fourth quarter. Kendall Milton

1261
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 8: eighteen carries one hundred and fifty six yards and two touchdowns.

1262
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Speaker 8: Next Saturday, the SEC title game Georgia against Alabama. Michigan

1263
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 8: beat Ohio State again thirty to twenty four. Blake Corum

1264
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Speaker 8: two touchdown runs. He had twenty two carries eighty eight

1265
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 8: yards Michigan gets its third straight win in this series,

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Speaker 8: after Ohio State had won fifteen of sixteen against the

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Speaker 8: worldverins Michigan today with a seven minute field goal drive

1268
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 8: late in the game. Marvin Harrison Junior and the lost

1269
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 8: five catches, one hundred and eighteen yards and a score.

1270
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Speaker 8: Kyle McCord two touchdowns, two interceptions, including one in the

1271
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Speaker 8: last minute. Michigan led fourteen to three in the second quarter.

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Speaker 8: Ohio State tied at seventeen seventeen in the third. In

1273
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 8: the second half, James Turner of the winners three for

1274
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Speaker 8: three on field goals. Michigan wins by six. Next Saturday night,

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Speaker 8: Michigan against Iowa in the Big Ten championship game on

1276
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 8: Fox TV, Washington edged its rival Washington State twenty four

1277
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 8: to twenty one on a forty two yard field goal

1278
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 8: on the final play. Future NFL receiver Roma Doonza of

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 8: the Huskies seven catches, one hundred and twenty yards, two

1280
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 8: touchdowns and a key fourth and one run on the

1281
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 8: last drive. Husky's defense with five sacks, Cougar's quarterback cam

1282
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 8: Ward three touchdown passes, two interceptions in the loss, and

1283
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 8: Washington State was whistled for ten penalties and Florida State's

1284
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 8: twelve to zero. After winning a comeback at Florida tonight

1285
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 8: twenty four to fifteen. Florida States defense with six sacks,

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Speaker 8: Seminoles were down twelve nothing late first half. At a

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Speaker 8: battle of backup quarterbacks Trey Benson three touchdown runs ninety

1288
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Speaker 8: five yards on the ground. Somehow, Alabama won at Auburn

1289
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Speaker 8: twenty seven twenty four. Bama goes eight to h in

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Speaker 8: the sec They went on a last minute touchdown pass

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Speaker 8: today on a fourth and goal from the thirty one.

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Speaker 8: Kentucky wins at number ten Louisville thirty eight thirty one.

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Speaker 8: Louisville had been six and oh at home this year.

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Speaker 8: Thirty seven yard touchdown run which just over a minute left,

1295
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Speaker 8: did the trick and Louisville will be in next Saturday's

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Speaker 8: ACC championship game against Florida State, but the Cardinals will

1297
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 8: not top ten team next week. LSU beat Texas A

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01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 8: and M forty two to twenty. Arizona wins easily at

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 8: Arizona State fifty nine to twenty three. Notre Dame one

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 8: at Stanford tonight fifty six to twenty three. Iowa State

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01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 8: in the snow won at nineteenth rank Kansas State forty

1302
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Speaker 8: two to thirty five on Fox TV. Double overtime win

1303
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 8: in the rain at number twenty Oklahoma State for the Cowboys,

1304
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 8: beating BYU forty to thirty four. Cowboys trailed twenty four

1305
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Speaker 8: to six at the half BYU went two and seven

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 8: in its first year in the Big Twelve Conference, lost

1307
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Speaker 8: five in a row to end Ali Gordon, one of

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Speaker 8: the great rushers in the land, five touchdown runs after

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Speaker 8: halftime for Oklahoma State. Next Saturday, Cowboys against Texas in

1310
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Speaker 8: the Big Twelve. Final victories for Tennessee and NC State

1311
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 8: wins for Clemson and Liberty. As for the NBA, just

1312
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 8: about everything is final the late games mid fourth quarter

1313
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 8: in LA, Clippers lead the Mavericks ninety one to seventy six.

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia's Joelle and Bead with thirty five points today in

1315
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 8: a narrow win at Oklahoma City. Lakers won at Cleveland

1316
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 8: thirty two points for Anthony Davis. In college hoops number seventeen,

1317
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 8: Alabama beat Oregon ninety nine ninety one. In the NHL,

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01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 8: Rangers defeated the Boston Bruins seven to four. New Jersey

1319
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 8: seven to two over Buffalo and the La King shut

1320
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 8: out the Canadians four to nothing. And guys, apparently this

1321
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 8: was a great article on an awful announcing. You know,

1322
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 8: we had this Black Friday game here first time for

1323
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 8: the NFL with the streaming only yesterday. A TV sponsor

1324
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 8: apparently was offering a promotion where they would give away

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 8: a million dollars worth of free televisions if someone scored

1326
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 8: a ninety eight yard touchdown during this game end of

1327
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 8: the first half, hail Mary Throne intercepted run back ninety

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01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 8: nine yards the other way for a touchdown. They say

1329
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 8: the company they will be paying up They will give

1330
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 8: away eighty four elite televisions that normally sell for about

1331
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 8: twelve thousand dollars each. The winners will be randomly chosen

1332
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Speaker 8: from those who signed up before the broadcast.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Sager,

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Torres, Jason Martin

1335
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire Raq dot Com studios. Uh So,

1336
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: since we tossed it over to the news desk week

1337
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: to Sager, Bruce Feldman is reporting Mark Stoops is no

1338
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 2: longer a candidate at Texas A and M Pete Thamil

1339
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: is reporting that Mark Stoops is no longer candidate at

1340
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. So for people just joining us

1341
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 2: really quick, because we got to get back over to

1342
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 2: the news desk to the saga in about you know,

1343
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: six seven minutes from now. Mark Stoops the head coach

1344
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: at Texas A and M as of about probably when

1345
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: we came. We came on ever a to eleven PM

1346
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: Eastern was trending to be the head coach report from

1347
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. Sports basically said it was done.

1348
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated said it was Everything was trending that direction

1349
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: within the last half hour, Jason, it has become clear

1350
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: that either Texas A and M got word that their

1351
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: fans were not gonna be happy with this higher or

1352
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: Mark Stoop said I can read the writing on the

1353
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: wall and I'm not going to a place.

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: Where don't want this.

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So.

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: What do you which one do you think is most likely?

1357
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 2: That is a great question.

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: Because I was thinking the same thing like the whole

1359
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: time during Disager's update. I was listening to what he

1360
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: was saying, and at the same time, it was just like,

1361
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: did Mark Stoops say, no, Okay, they don't want me.

1362
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: This is not a scenario where I can walk in.

1363
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: I can't do this. Or did the school was this

1364
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: I saw barrettsalise it was a child balloon? Was this

1365
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: something where they said, all right, we really like this

1366
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: guy and we think he could be the answer. But

1367
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: if they were old, we can't do this. Like did

1368
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: they get bullied by the fans, or did Mark Stoops

1369
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: get bullied by the fans or did he decide that

1370
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't a job that he felt like he needed

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: to take at this point in time, Like, there's a

1372
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of ways. There's a lot of ways that you

1373
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: can kind of look at this, and I have no

1374
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: idea which one is most likely. Honestly, I think it's

1375
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: it feels to me like the sentiment is more that

1376
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: A and M revolted, so fan base revolted.

1377
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: I have two differing thoughts. One Matt Jones was the

1378
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: first one to report at Kentucky Sports Radio. He obviously

1379
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: is very tied in with Mark Stoops in his camp,

1380
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: so Stoops easily could have reported it to him or

1381
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: somebody in Stoops' his camp, whatever. But I tend to

1382
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: agree with you because I think if you're a coach,

1383
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: you sit there and say, listen, once I get through

1384
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: the press conference, and because listen, every coach thinks that

1385
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna get You don't take a job unless maybe

1386
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: you're Ryan Day and you're soft, but no kidding. You

1387
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: take a job and you think I'm gonna be the guy,

1388
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: and you don't take the job if you don't think, hey,

1389
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: I can go there and do what the last guy couldn't. Ironically,

1390
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: as you said, Mark Stoops actually worked for Jimbo Fisher

1391
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: for a time at Florida State, so that brings the

1392
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: irony there. But I bring it up because I think

1393
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: if you're the coach, you probably sit there and say, listen,

1394
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: even if the fans don't believe in this, you know,

1395
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna prove them all wrong. They'll get over it

1396
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: in a day or in a week, and I'm gonna

1397
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 2: go there and with the talent that I'm gonna have,

1398
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and win X number of games.

1399
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: So my hunch is that it was probably the school

1400
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 2: that just said we can't have all this negativity. By

1401
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: the way, I would say this, I know college sports

1402
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: enough to know I don't know how many big, big

1403
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 2: big time boosters. It takes, but it only takes a

1404
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: few phone calls to say, hey, I've been donating this

1405
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: many millions, hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands. If you

1406
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: hire this guy, you're getting zero dollars from me going forward.

1407
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's the perfect way to run an

1408
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: athletic department, but I also do think you get enough

1409
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: of those calls you do have to reconsider. My guess

1410
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: is that it came more from the A and M

1411
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: side than the Mark Stoops.

1412
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: So one other takeaway, this proves beyond a shadow of

1413
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: a doubt. Even just the name Mark Stoops I think

1414
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: proves it. But the way that this has played out

1415
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: makes it obvious. And we talked about this in the

1416
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: moment when it happened. Rosby organ Texas. A and M

1417
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: had no plan of succeeding Jimbo Fisher. They had no

1418
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: clue where they were going next. They might have had

1419
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: a list, but this is not going particularly well for them.

1420
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: They don't look great here. Like the names that we

1421
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: have seen, the names have been ballied. You know, you

1422
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: had the Dan Campbell name and so they want him,

1423
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: and then there's some other names that have been floated

1424
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: out there, and of course the Mark Steube story and

1425
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: the Dabo Swinny story and the UTSA coach his his

1426
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: situation out there, and even Ryan Day's name being attached

1427
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: to it and all this kind of stuff. When you

1428
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: fire somebody and you pay them seventy six million dollars

1429
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: to go away, don't you need to know where you're

1430
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: going next? Like that? Like if I'm a Texas A

1431
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: and M fan, I'm just like, well, what are we

1432
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: doing here? Like I didn't, you know, I didn't like

1433
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: the Jimbo hire from the get go, but especially and

1434
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: I certainly didn't like the extension and the long term

1435
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: deal that they gave him. But it's just like, what

1436
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: are we doing? I saw, I actually saw we were

1437
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: talking Clay Travis earlier. I saw Clay had put out

1438
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: there they can't hire Mark Stoops. You don't pay somebody

1439
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: seventy six million dollars off of buyout to go hire

1440
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops like that. That's the thing. Like that proves

1441
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: to me there was no plan. They had nothing in motion.

1442
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: They had nothing in their heads to succeed this, and

1443
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: that to me is not very good. Like I think

1444
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: this could be nearing the end for Ross Bjorke. Yeah.

1445
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: No, First of all I agree with you is that

1446
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't think that there was a plan, and you know, listen,

1447
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think that this was all on you know,

1448
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: all totally on the ad either, you know.

1449
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: See, Oh, certainly not. Yeah, you're right about it.

1450
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, if somebody's willing to help write you checks that

1451
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: could equate up to seventy seven million dollars to get

1452
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: rid of a guy, you can't really do it. But no,

1453
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt. And I'll be honest,

1454
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: Jason is I thought coming out of last week it

1455
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: was actually a good thing because they went it. They

1456
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: fired You brought up Kevin sumone earlier. He was okay, Yeah,

1457
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: he was fine, he was fine, But they fired him

1458
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: because they knew they could get Jimbo Fisher. They wanted

1459
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher and that was the only answer. So I

1460
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: just bring it up because I thought it was maybe

1461
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 2: a good thing that they were going to cast a

1462
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: wider net. They weren't only going to uh, they weren't

1463
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: only going to focus on one guy. But I just

1464
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: bring it up because it's just been so convoluted and then,

1465
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: by the way, how about this. I think I'll give

1466
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: A and M fans credit and we got to be

1467
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: quick here, but I'll just be very brief for this.

1468
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: I give A and M fans credit because I don't

1469
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: think they necessarily wanted the big hire. Now, yeah, if

1470
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: you can get a Dan Lanning, if you can get whoever,

1471
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 2: then you got to take advantage of it. But I

1472
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: think they were okay with the not super marquee higher.

1473
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: So I actually give them credit because I thought they

1474
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: were reasonable in the expectations. But it also speaks to

1475
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: you maybe how out of touch to your point that

1476
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: the ad is that they thought that this specific hire

1477
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: would fly. So I don't know if you have anything

1478
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: else to add there, but it's.

1479
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: Oh, we go to breakcause I know we got to Saga.

1480
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: On the other side, we've got another hour, thankful, and

1481
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: there's probably more to come.

1482
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: Yes, So we will come back to Saga. We'll have

1483
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: his extended update top of the hour. We'll reset all

1484
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: the craziness in college football. Air tors Jason Martin, Fox

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01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:19,599
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Speaker 2: dot com. Been a crazy day of college football. We'll

1492
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: get back to all the insanity momentarily, but also part

1493
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: of the insanity to saga bring us up to date

1494
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 2: on everything that's happened throughout the day. We've covered like

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01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: two things today because it's been insanity throughout this show,

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Speaker 2: So there's still things going on right now.

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Speaker 8: I mentioned earlier in the show that we've got eighty

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Speaker 8: two bowl slots for college football. Eighty have been filled.

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 8: South Carolina missed a chance, and yeah, Clemson did beat

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Speaker 8: South Carolina. Also, that means James Madison is into a

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 8: bowl game and Jacksonville State is into a bowl game.

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01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 8: Florida lost its game, so Florida finishes its season at

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 8: five and seven, So there are two slots left, which

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Speaker 8: brings us to the three games that are going on

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 8: right now, two of which have these massive bowl implications.

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Speaker 8: Cal is five and six if they win at UCLA tonight,

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01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 8: they're in cal Is winning twenty to seven in the

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 8: third quarter. Colorado State's five and six. If they win tonight,

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Speaker 8: they're in Colorado State's losing at halftime at Hawaii fourteen

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Speaker 8: to ten. And we've got a game going on late

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01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 8: third quarter on FS one, San Diego State ahead of

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01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 8: Fresno State twenty three to ten. Fresno State after such

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 8: a great start, might be four and four in the

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01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 8: Mountain West. That is one of the games on Fox

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 8: TV next Saturday, the Mountain West Championship game. And people

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01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 8: we do not know, not only to me, not know

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01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 8: who's in the game next Saturday. We know it's a

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01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 8: three pm Eastern time. We don't even know where the

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 8: game is going to be. The Mountain West has decided

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 8: sending out a news release today to make it official

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01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 8: that after San Jose State upset UNLV, their each six

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01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 8: and two in conference play and Boise State is six

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 8: and two in Mountain West play, they're not using a

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 8: tiebreaker with point differentials and not everybody played everybody else

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01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 8: in that league, So instead, the Mountain West says it

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01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 8: will utilize quote select computer rankings to determine who are

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Speaker 8: the two teams in their final next Saturday. So if

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01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 8: the computers select Boise State against UNLV as their two finalists,

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01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 8: whoever's higher ranked by the computers would be the host

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01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 8: of the championship game next Saturday. Those two, for example,

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01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 8: did not face each other this season, so Fox doesn't

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 8: even know where it's going at this point for that game. Wow,

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Speaker 8: that'll be the game before Fox airs the Michigan IOWA

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01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 8: Big Ten Final from Indianapolis next Saturday night. Michigan beating

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 8: Ohio State for a third straight year today, thirty to

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 8: twenty four was the final. Keep in mind, Ohio State

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 8: missed a fifty two yard field goal attempt at the

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Speaker 8: end of the first half. Michigan made a fifty yarder

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01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 8: to open the second half. The difference at the end

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01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 8: was six points. As for the rushing numbers, AP put

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01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 8: this out after the Michigan victory. In these last three years,

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 8: all Wolverine wins against their rival in first halves, Ohio

1543
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 8: State had the rushing advantage, But if you add up

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01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 8: the rushing totals just the second halves of the last

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 8: three years, it's Michigan over five hundred and fifty yards

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01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 8: on the ground. Ohio state under one hundred yards rushing

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01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 8: in the three second halves combined the last hundred year

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01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 8: under one hundred yards rush ninety four combined for the

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Speaker 8: second halves, the last one.

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Speaker 2: I mean when Michigan goes on thirteen play eight eight

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01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: eight minute score.

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Speaker 8: Drives, I got the field goal at the end exactly.

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01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 8: And this also goes back to the comment about toughness.

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01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 8: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: So you know what, Ryan Day got the best of

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: Lou Holtz, so credits down for that, but you really

1557
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 2: showed lou Holtz.

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01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 8: Speaking of rushing, I don't know if you saw what

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 8: Notre Dame did at Stanford. It was a fifty six

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01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 8: to twenty three final. Audrich Estima on twenty five carries,

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01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 8: had two hundred and thirty eight yards rushing and four

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01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 8: touchdowns at Stanford. Anyway, as far as Michigan, this is

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01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,480
Speaker 8: the last year of the current divisional alignment in that conference.

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01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 8: So we have Big ten East Winter Michigan going up

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01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 8: against the West Winter Iowa. Whoever wins the East has

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Speaker 8: always beaten the Big ten West. In this decade, we've

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Speaker 8: had the championship game in this format nine to oh

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01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,879
Speaker 8: soon to be ten and oh probably no more divisional alignment,

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 8: no more divisions in the Big Ten after this year

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01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 8: when the four new teams join and they'll have eighteen total.

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01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 8: But keep in mind Iowa has not beaten Michigan outside

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Speaker 8: of Iowa since twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: The SEGA, thank you very much, apologize for the shortened

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Speaker 2: extended updata. So much going big, It is so much

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Speaker 2: going on. We're gonna catch a blast say well, we

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01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: appreciate you so much to say we're gonna come back

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Speaker 2: more college football, and we promise we will start previewing

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Speaker 2: weekteen of the NFL. This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 2: in everybody. Final hour of Torres and Martin taking you

1580
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Speaker 2: buying should be. So we we we just started a

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Speaker 2: few days ago, Week twelve of the NFL season. I

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01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 2: think I've been saying Week thirteen all night long, but

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Speaker 2: it is Week twelve. Three games on Thursday, the first

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01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 2: ever Black Friday Game, and Jason and I will look

1590
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 2: ahead to the rest of the week twelve slate in

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01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 2: about fifteen twenty minutes from now, But Jason want to

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Speaker 2: put a bow on college football today Crazy Day. We

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01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: spent all of our one talking Ohio State Michigan, spent

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Speaker 2: most of our two talking about the Texas A and

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01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: M coaching situation. For people who do not know Mark Stoops.

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Speaker 2: As of about eleven pm Eastern, multiple reports said he

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Speaker 2: was going to be the guy. About forty five or

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01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: so minutes ago, we find out that he is staying

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Speaker 2: at Kentucky. Jason and I bo speculating that it came

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Speaker 2: more from the outrage of Texas A and M fans

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Speaker 2: who were not happy Mark Stoops. Of course, the Kentucky

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01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: head coach.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Billy Lucci has said recently no, what

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01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: was the latest? All right? So we said Mark Stoops

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01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: was tabbed as the next take coach of A and M.

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01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 1: Had even begun telling people he was leaving A and

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Speaker 1: m's final approval, I've been granted by the board. The

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Speaker 1: board was aware of the revolt from the fan base

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Speaker 1: and killed the deal. Really, I had that's what I

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01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: just saw. Now that wasn't from him directly, so I

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Speaker 1: want to actually see it from there. But that's what

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Speaker 1: that's what seems to be coming through right now.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's what it is. And the one

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: thing I'll say, and I do just Jason, I do

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01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 2: want to get to just some playoff picture stuff in

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01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: a minute. But what I will say is for those

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01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: of you who you know who loved to nerd out

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01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: on college football, like Jason and I, what is the

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01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: number one knock on Texas A and M Too many

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01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: cooks in the kitchen, too many people involved. And so

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Speaker 2: as we talked about last hour, I have zeroed out

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01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 2: that at some point a lot of those important well

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01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 2: to do financially set people were the reason why Jimbo

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01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 2: Fisher was fired with seventy seven million remaining on his

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01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: contract without any real plan to replace. And I also

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01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: think that at some point, you know, they probably got

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01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 2: wind and whether they felt it was the fans that

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01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: were the reason why, or whether it was you know,

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01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: important boosters that were going to help pay that next contract,

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01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: whatever the case was, I think it's pretty clear that

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Speaker 2: it just speaks to again just the idea of you know,

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01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: of so many people at that place being involved in

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01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: decision making, and probably too many people at this point.

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Speaker 2: By the way, let me say this feels like about

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01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 2: it was only one you know, I'm trying to do

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01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: the math in my head here. What about ten nine

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01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 2: eight hours ago to Ohio State beat Michigan feels like

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01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: it was a lifetime ago. With everything that has happened since,

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01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: with the Iron Bowl went Iron Bowl craziness. We didn't

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Speaker 2: even mention to Seger just mentioned it. The Apple Cup

1641
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: ended up in a walk off, and obviously we've had

1642
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: this Texas A and M stuff. Jason, I want to

1643
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: talk to you about the playoff picture right now because

1644
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: this is such a fascinating thing in the final year

1645
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 2: of the college football player. Often. One thing we did

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01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 2: talk about to lead the show is that the Ohio

1647
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: State Michigan game and any rivalry in the final week

1648
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: of the regular season is just not going to have

1649
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: the same stakes going forward with the twelve team playoff.

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01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 2: But I bring it up because we now know what

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Speaker 2: the stakes are in the conference championships. Number One, Georgia

1652
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 2: is playing Alabama. George's undefeated Alabama. It has one loss

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01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: in the ACC Florida State remained undefeated. As Dessager said,

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Speaker 2: in a win over Florida, their rival Florida Florida State

1655
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 2: is undefeated. We have one lost Oregon versus undefeated Washington

1656
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Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve championship game. We have undefeated Michigan,

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Speaker 2: who will obviously play their way into the college football

1658
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: playoffs should they beat Iowa. And I will say, I

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01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of knocks on Michigan. I think

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Speaker 2: I don't know what would happen if they lost. I

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 2: don't even want to speculate on that because I don't know.

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01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: But we in Texas, of course, is playing Oklahoma State

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01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve. So there's a scenario where we

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Speaker 2: could have five undefeated or one loss teams at the

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Speaker 2: end of as conference champions. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: I think the only place that we I guess the

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Speaker 2: ACC could have a two loss conference champion, and I

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Speaker 2: guess in theory the Big Twelve could have a two

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: loss conference champion. But if the favorites and all those

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Speaker 2: games went out, Jason, we're gonna have a bunch of

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01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 2: undefeated teams and one lost teams. I think I know

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Speaker 2: that you feel strongly about who should be left out.

1673
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on if all the favorites

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Speaker 2: next week end up winning out and we have a

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Speaker 2: bunch of undefeated one lost conference champion.

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Speaker 1: I guess I guess, yeah, you do know. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, I don't think that it would happen.

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01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I just think that if the goal is to put

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Speaker 1: the four best teams in, then Florida State is the

1680
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: one that should not be there. That was not a

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01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: great performance, but a gutty performance from that team to win.

1682
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: I guess an end State rival, not a good Florida

1683
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: team at all, but one that every once in a

1684
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: while surprises you. They don't have their best player. Well,

1685
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: the receiver is unbelievable, we know that, But they don't

1686
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: have Jordan Travis. We know they're not going to have

1687
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: him for the College Football Playoff. It's not the same

1688
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: team that team that we saw. And this is all

1689
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: hypothetical because we don't have to actually see this game. Now.

1690
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Speaker 1: Do we really think that Florida State team without Jordan

1691
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 1: Travis beats LSU to open the season, do we? That's

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Speaker 1: my whole argument is that is not one of the

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01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: four best teams in the country. But if they're undefeated,

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01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: then I still think you're right. I still think they

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01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: will go. I do. I just don't think that that

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01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: is representative anymore. I think losing Travis changes what that

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01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: team is functionally. I think nobody looks at them and says, oh,

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01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: that's one of the top four teams in the country.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. I absolutely do not.

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01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really tough. We led the show last week

1701
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: talking about this and I said this exact same thing.

1702
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: I said that the number one criteria of the College

1703
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: Football Playoff Committee is to put what they deem to

1704
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: be the four best teams. Now, they have criteria within

1705
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: that of are you a conference champion, are you undefeated?

1706
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,759
Speaker 2: What was your out of conference like, all that stuff,

1707
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: wins against ranked opponents, all that, But the end game

1708
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 2: is to put the four best teams in. And I

1709
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: think even with Florida State winning today, I'm with you.

1710
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: I don't think you can argue either one of the

1711
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: four best teams. I also, I just can't see them,

1712
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: like I'm so torn because on the one hand, I

1713
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: can't see them leaving Florida State out if they're undefeated,

1714
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: if they take care of Louisville, next week. Now, I'm

1715
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: not positive that they will if they play like they

1716
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 2: did tonight, But if they do take care of Louisville,

1717
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't know that you can leave. I'm not saying

1718
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: you can't. I don't want to say I don't know

1719
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: that they would, because I mean, does this set a

1720
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: bad president who cares it's the last year of the

1721
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 2: four team playoff. But then on the counter to that

1722
01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 2: would be if Alabama beach beach Georgia, then you of

1723
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: a very complicated situation because Texas has the head to

1724
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 2: head win over Alabama, Georgia's number one Alabama would have

1725
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: a win over the number one ranked team going into

1726
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: the final weekend. But in theory, you can't put them

1727
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: in over Texas. So I well, I guess what I'm

1728
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 2: trying to say is I think the committee is praying,

1729
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 2: is praying that one of a couple things happens, is

1730
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: one that Texas, that Florida State just loses and makes

1731
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: it easy because I don't I think if they're not

1732
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 2: the conference champion, you can't argue to put them in.

1733
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: I think if Florida State wins, they're praying that Texas

1734
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: loses because if Texas loses, then there would would be

1735
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 2: a two loss, three loss whatever conference champion in the

1736
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 2: Big twelve, Texas would have two losses, they'd be out.

1737
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 2: I think obviously Georgia beating Alabama would simplify things a

1738
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 2: little bit. So there's still a lot of stuff that

1739
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 2: could happen. But I don't know what happens if Texas wins.

1740
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: If if Georgia, Washington, and Michigan win, those would be

1741
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 2: three undefeated conference champions. If Florida eight wins, that would

1742
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 2: be four. And then my guess is if Texas wins,

1743
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 2: I do think they'd be left out. Even with that

1744
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: head to head win over Alabama. I don't know if

1745
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: it's right. I don't know if anyone would argue that

1746
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Texas is not the better team, that Florida State is

1747
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 2: the superior team. There's there's still a lot to be done,

1748
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 2: but I'm just trying to talk this out on air.

1749
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 2: This probably is the best radio I apologize to our listeners,

1750
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 2: but I'm.

1751
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: That's what that's the same thing that's going to be

1752
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: happening though. I mean that that's part of it is.

1753
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: It's all happening in real time in front of us.

1754
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: I don't think they're one of the four best teams,

1755
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 1: but it's hard to say you don't deserve it because

1756
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: we don't think you would have won those games if

1757
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: you don't have Jordan Travis. Even though that's basically what

1758
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: I just did. The thing that irritates me is Washington's

1759
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: undefeated and Oregon's better. I don't think there's any question

1760
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: about that now.

1761
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 2: I think Oregon open is I believe a seven point

1762
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: favorite in that game.

1763
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: After what if they get beat again, it's it doesn't

1764
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: matter for sure.

1765
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean if they get beat again, then

1766
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: it's hard to argue that they're the better team. I'll

1767
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 2: tell you this, man, Like, that's that's the wild card

1768
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: that I don't know what they would do. Like let's

1769
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 2: say the let's say Michigan wins, Georgia wins, Florida State wins,

1770
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: and then you have a one loss Oregon in a

1771
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 2: one loss Texas. I guess if if Oregon avenge avenge

1772
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: the loss, you have to like, I.

1773
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: Just think it's the better team too.

1774
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, like, let me ask you this. The PAC twelve,

1775
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 2: and I know it's hard to do off the top

1776
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 2: of your head. Pack twelve has been so maligned. I

1777
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,759
Speaker 2: believe they haven't had a team in the college football

1778
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: playoffs since like twenty sixteen. Washington, there's no scenario where

1779
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: where either team could be left out, right, do you think, like,

1780
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 2: because then we'll be talking about an undefeated Georgia team,

1781
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 2: undefeated Michigan, undefeated Florida State. If Texas wins, then I

1782
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 2: guess the win over Alabama becomes devalued a little bit, right.

1783
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 2: I can't see the scenario where the Pac twelve gets

1784
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: left out.

1785
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you're saying if Washington wins.

1786
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying, well, if Washington wins, are undefeated, I

1787
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 2: don't think it's.

1788
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: So if or so if a one law Oregon's what

1789
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: you're saying, one loss Oregon beats an undefeated Washington team

1790
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: in the Pacteal title game, and then on the flip side,

1791
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: Texas's so you've got two one loss teams that were

1792
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: looking at at this point.

1793
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm just trying to talk it out, like if

1794
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: there's a scenario, I don't think I can't. I don't

1795
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 2: think that there is, But I'm just trying to talk

1796
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 2: it out on air here.

1797
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't either. I think that's too far for

1798
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: I think, wow, man, I see the weird thing in

1799
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: the flying the ointment here, and you have to look

1800
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: at this from a perspective. It's Saturday being rivalry games,

1801
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: and look, Georgia Tech and Georgia was weird, and we

1802
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: saw some weird games, and then you saw some some

1803
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: that went kind of the way that you thought. Alabama

1804
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 1: having to eke that one out. I mean, that was

1805
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: an incredible finish and an unbelievable throw by Milroe and

1806
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: just just it worked perfectly for them. But that's a

1807
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: game they probably should have lost. And I look at

1808
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 1: all of that and it's just like my argument has been,

1809
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: and I think you've had this same one that you

1810
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: can argue that Bama was number two in the country

1811
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 1: in terms of the teams that we've been watching for

1812
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: the last month, the teams that we've been watching for

1813
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 1: the last six weeks. I don't know how I feel

1814
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: about that now, because I saw again, I saw bad,

1815
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: undisciplined stuff towards the end of that game. And I

1816
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just because it's the Iron Bowl

1817
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: and weird things happen in those kind of games, or

1818
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,520
Speaker 1: it's like the same kind of deal where the Patriots

1819
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: with Brady would go to Miami and lose like seemingly

1820
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: every year. Somehow they they'd split with the Dolphins no

1821
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 1: matter what. But so I don't know what to make

1822
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 1: of it other than Alabama now not looking quite as

1823
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: good to me sort of. That really muddies the field

1824
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 1: for me, and it muddies the situation with Texas even

1825
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: more because oh, well, definitely if they've played right now,

1826
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Alabama would beat Texas. Well. Texas just came off a

1827
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: fifty point win and Alabama struggled with an Auburn team

1828
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: that got embarrassed a week ago, like I mean by

1829
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: by a school they paid a million and a half

1830
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: to get drugged by twenty eight too.

1831
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 2: I mean, the only counter that would be if that

1832
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 2: it if that situation comes up, it means that Alabama

1833
01:32:58,760 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: has now been in Georgia on a.

1834
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 1: New Yeah, And that's right, And so I guess it

1835
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: doesn't matter at that point in time, but because that's

1836
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: more impressive than Texas beating them. But that's These are

1837
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 1: the discussions that are fun to have that we're not

1838
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: going to be able to have in the future. But

1839
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: they're also the reason why the twelve team playoff is

1840
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: a good thing because so many of these hypotheticals get answered.

1841
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: And like we mentioned last week, Aaron, we don't We're

1842
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: not going to care much about twelve versus thirteen. But

1843
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: if Oregon somehow doesn't make it, you're telling me Oregon

1844
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: doesn't deserve an opportunity. You don't think they're one of

1845
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: the They're a team that could cause some trouble. They're

1846
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: a team that deserves an opportunity. It does, It kills

1847
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: what Michigan and Ohio State today or yesterday would have meant.

1848
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it just creates so much

1849
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: more opportunity for schools and just creates more intrigue.

1850
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know it's it's been a cliche talking

1851
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 2: point this year, but I do think there's some some

1852
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 2: validity to it is. I do think with the transfer

1853
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 2: portal and nil, it has flight in the playing field

1854
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: where there is more talent at a you know, listen,

1855
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 2: Texas rebuilt their whole roster in two years, right, I mean,

1856
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: sark was what five and seven in year one, Now

1857
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: they're eleven and one and playing to go to the

1858
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. Obviously, Kaitlin de bow or year two,

1859
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning year two, etc. So I think that's where

1860
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 2: what I would say is, if we were continuing with

1861
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 2: a four team college football playoff, I think we would

1862
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 2: get more years in the future like this, because I

1863
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 2: do think in general, with obviously the exception of Georgia,

1864
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: which is just the new death Star, it does feel

1865
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: like there isn't as much of a gap between like

1866
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: one and seven one in five as look at two

1867
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 2: years ago. I mean, Cincinnati made the College Football Playoff

1868
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 2: two years ago and it was an incredible story. But

1869
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 2: you and I were hosting during that game and they

1870
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 2: were on the field for one series against Alabama, and

1871
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 2: You're like, Oh, they're not even in the same stratosphere

1872
01:34:54,680 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 2: as them, where Alabama lost to Texas. Georgia obviously they

1873
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: speak for themselves. I think Oregon can play with anybody

1874
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,799
Speaker 2: in the country. Can they beat them? I don't know Michigan.

1875
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: I think they obviously will need to step up offensively,

1876
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 2: but I don't think Michigan will get embarrassed by anybody.

1877
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 2: And so I wasn't in favor of the twelve team

1878
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 2: college football Playoff at first, but I think as we

1879
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: get deeper into this transfer portal era, I think the

1880
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: field is a little bit flattened, and I think it'll

1881
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 2: be good overall for college football.

1882
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 1: Chase. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: of the NFL season. Some big ones divisional game Houston

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Speaker 2: and Jacksonville, big Sunday night game in Los Angeles, and

1890
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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, and intriguing one with Philly coming

1891
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 2: off that big win against KC. All the previews next

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01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 2: Week twelve Coming up. This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

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01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:08,759
Speaker 2: back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, errortors Jason Martin broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from thee Tiraq dot com studios. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: frightful the weather is out here in La. It's not

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Speaker 2: it's not warm. I don't know if it's frightful. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if i'd call it frightful though. Producer pat

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Speaker 2: On the producer Pat with us. He's gonna be joining

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Speaker 2: us momentarily. Loraina with the music tonight. By the way, Jason,

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01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 2: before we get back to the NFL, one very quick

1901
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 2: thing to wrap the college football once and for all.

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01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 1: If you missed.

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Speaker 2: Anything, please make sure to down if there's ever a

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Speaker 2: time to download the podcast. Today is today. Spend a

1905
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 2: half an hour forty five minutes talking to Ohio State Michigan.

1906
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 2: Ryan Day took some calls and we have spent a

1907
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 2: good chunk of time with this Texas A and M chaos.

1908
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops was trending to be the head coach as

1909
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 2: of early in the show. We found out about an

1910
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 2: hour ago that he was not going anywhere. Whether it

1911
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: was because Texas A and M pulled the off or

1912
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: he did not want to go, that remains to be seen.

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01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get some reporting on that. But Mark

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01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 2: Stoops did release his statement just moments ago on his

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01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 2: social media account. I know there's been much speculation about

1916
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 2: me and my job situation in the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: It's true I was contacted about a potential opportunity this weekend,

1918
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 2: But after celebrating a big win against our rivals with

1919
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 2: players I love like family, I knew in my heart

1920
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't leave the University of Kentucky. Right now, I

1921
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 2: have a great job at a place I love, and

1922
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: I get to work with the best administration and greatest

1923
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 2: fan base in college football. Right where I'm at. I'm

1924
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: excited to say a Wildcat again. Gotta get to some

1925
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 2: NFL I and I listen, you gotta release a statement

1926
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 2: like that, But I don't know if it's because you

1927
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 2: have the best fans in the world. And I do

1928
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: like that he was smart enough to throw in Oh,

1929
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: by the way, we beat our rivals, ranked top ten

1930
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 2: in the country, as the SEGA told you, first top

1931
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 2: ten win on the road since nineteen seventy seven. This

1932
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 2: one feels like I was probably going and then they

1933
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 2: made the decision they really didn't want.

1934
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Speaker 6: Well.

1935
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the stories, there were

1936
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: people he was telling A Kentucky he was out, he

1937
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: was leaving, so something happened.

1938
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 4: I know.

1939
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 1: He told Chris Low to ESPN the same thing. He said,

1940
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: really excited about the win. Today, I'm staying at Kentucky

1941
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 1: and he confirmed that, Yes, he had talked to A

1942
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: and M about the job. I think he talked to

1943
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: him about the job. I think he was ready to

1944
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: take the job and then something happened, and we will

1945
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: read long form articles about that in the coming days.

1946
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,759
Speaker 1: The question is, and that you had seen this storyline

1947
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 1: now for a couple of days and we'll get to

1948
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: the NFL is that they wanted this done by the

1949
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: end of the weekend. They didn't want this coaching search

1950
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: going into next week. They didn't want it to be

1951
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: a long time search. They wanted it done by the

1952
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: end of the weekend. I imagine that that is probably

1953
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: out the window now because I don't know what you have.

1954
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I if Mark Stoops was actually what was going to happen,

1955
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: I imagine the backup plan is going to take more

1956
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: time to set up.

1957
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely for people who don't know. So transfer portal

1958
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: officially opens next Monday, but any coach that's fired, players

1959
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 2: have thirty days after the fire and enter the portal.

1960
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 2: So TEXA and m players can tectly enter the portal.

1961
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 2: And obviously you wanted to coach in place once the

1962
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 2: season ended today so that you can meet with the

1963
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 2: players tomorrow, you know, and not even really have them

1964
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to consider transferring. So if there's any

1965
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 2: more news between now and two am Eastern, we're on

1966
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 2: there for thirty three more minutes. We'll get to it.

1967
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: But what I do want to do is talk a

1968
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 2: little NFL Loraina, give us a little music, non Christmas music, please,

1969
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: just a little football music, Pat, What is the first

1970
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 2: NFL game we're previewing tonight? Boys?

1971
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 9: What we got going for us today is the Buffalo

1972
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 9: Bills taking on the fight in Philadelphia Eagles. It's in

1973
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 9: Philly for this one, guys, and I'm not gonna lie

1974
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 9: to you. Philly is favored by three points. And you

1975
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 9: know what, Aaron this start us off?

1976
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: What are you feeling with this one? Well, listen, Obviously,

1977
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 2: Philly is playing incredible football coming off that emotional Monday

1978
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 2: Night win. I do think it's worth noting their last

1979
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 2: three wins are all by double figures coming off obviously, again,

1980
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 2: as I just mentioned an emotional win. I don't love Buffalo,

1981
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 2: and I certainly think a lot of last year last

1982
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 2: week's success, excuse me, was the fact that they were

1983
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 2: playing the Jet s Jets, Jets Jets. But it does

1984
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 2: feel a little bit like maybe Joe Brady, the new

1985
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, pumped a little bit of life into the

1986
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills every game for the Bills for the foreseeable

1987
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 2: future is essentially a must win if they want to

1988
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 2: reach their playoff goals. So I do actually like Buffalo

1989
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 2: to potentially pull off the upset, even though the game

1990
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: is in Philly.

1991
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you because it feels almost must

1992
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: win for them, like they can't keep losing. There are

1993
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: a whole lot of six and five teams and their

1994
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: next four really, but let's just stick with three at

1995
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 1: Philly at KC home for Dallas. Where are you getting

1996
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: to win? You better start as soon as possible. And

1997
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: things haven't been tritting to right, and you could be

1998
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: right about the change of scenery in terms of having

1999
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: a new OC and using Brady and the Eagles have

2000
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: been just on a roll and they're at home, and

2001
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Buffalo is actually going

2002
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: to beat them.

2003
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 9: All right, all right, We're gonna go back for Sunday

2004
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 9: Night football and it's the Baltimore Ravens taking on the

2005
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 9: Los Angeles Chargers. It says they're actually in Inglewood at

2006
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 9: the Chargers, but like all Charger home games, are they

2007
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 9: really the home team? I'm sure there will be more

2008
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 9: Baltimore Ravens there as as we'll see, but with that

2009
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 9: may be.

2010
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 2: More actual Ravens than kidding.

2011
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 9: Maybe even Edgar Allen Poe's The raven will be there too.

2012
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard Martin Wisse say something very similar.

2013
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 9: I may have also took that from them because I

2014
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 9: was listening to theirs as well. I may have credit

2015
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 9: Martin Wise on that. Either way, though, Baltimore on the

2016
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:02,919
Speaker 9: Road is actually the favorite. They are favored by three points. Jason,

2017
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 9: what do you think?

2018
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: Pat? I'm very confident about my football team, so you

2019
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: can stop asking that question.

2020
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: I know you're man.

2021
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: That's Brandon Staley. I am not confident at all in anything.

2022
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: The Chargers do not because of their quarterback, but they

2023
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: dropped a lot of passes. But the big thing is

2024
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: who exactly is going to stop Baltimore's offense in this game?

2025
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: Who is going to I know you've lost Mark Andrews

2026
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 1: and that's a big deal, but this is one of

2027
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the league. And now you've got

2028
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: Bosa on ir again. He's not playing, you're banged up,

2029
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: you moved on from j. C. Jackson already. It's just

2030
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: gone horribly on that side of the ball, which is

2031
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 1: a horrible look also for Brandon Staley, this is a

2032
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: bad matchup, and this is a very very good and

2033
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: hard nosed, physical Baltimore team that I think goes on

2034
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: the road and beats the Chargers.

2035
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you don't have to overthink stuff, and that's

2036
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 2: kind of my thought on this really quick, is just

2037
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 2: that the Los Angeles Chargers defense is awful, terrible, twenty

2038
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 2: fifth in the league in points allowed, thirty first in

2039
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,759
Speaker 2: yards allowed, and obviously we know that they are banged

2040
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: up coming out of last week. So listen, sometimes in

2041
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 2: life you don't got to overthink it. I know the

2042
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 2: Chargers are in theory sort of at home, as Pat said,

2043
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 2: always get a lot of visiting fans. I just I mean,

2044
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 2: it's simple. Lamar Jackson is awesome, the Baltimore offense is awesome,

2045
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 2: the Baltimore defense is awesome, and of course Los Angeles

2046
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 2: Chargers defense is a mess. So go ahead and give

2047
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 2: me the Ravens to win and to cover. Tell you what, Jayson,

2048
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 2: we'll come back, and when we do, we'll preview a

2049
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 2: couple more of the big games on the Week twelve slate.

2050
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 2: Before we do, though, let's toss it over the news

2051
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 2: desk to Sager, What is trending at this late hour,

2052
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 2: my friends.

2053
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 8: Just for the record, the San Diego Chargers used to

2054
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 8: get a lot of visiting fans as well, and as

2055
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 8: far as the fan base is, if it's a national team,

2056
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 8: national following like Raiders or Cowboys visiting, that's been like

2057
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 8: sixty forty for the visiting team in this year. But

2058
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,480
Speaker 8: I've seen plenty of games where it's for example, Arizona

2059
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 8: Cincinnati visiting and it's plenty of Charger fans.

2060
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 2: I took it to far.

2061
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 8: It's just that I hear not on this show, but

2062
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 8: I've just heard, including on other shows on Fox Sports Radio,

2063
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 8: like oh, they're all road games. They don't play a

2064
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 8: single Okay, you've obviously never been been to a Chargers game.

2065
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Just be you.

2066
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 8: Wouldn't call a road game when it's split fifty to fifty.

2067
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 8: That's not the definition of a road game. We were

2068
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:41,839
Speaker 8: talking about Bowl games, which are by definition neutral games,

2069
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 8: except in the case of, for example, the Mountain West Conference.

2070
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 8: We don't even know where that's going to be the

2071
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 8: Mountain West final deck Saturday. We know Fox TV is

2072
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,879
Speaker 8: due to carry it. One other item on this remember

2073
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 8: Las Vegas Stadium where the Raiders play is going to

2074
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 8: be hosting the PAC twelve title game with Oregon Washington

2075
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 8: Friday night. A few hours later on Saturday, they could

2076
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 8: be hosting the Mountain West Final daytime Saturday. That's the

2077
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 8: slot Fox has before Saturday Night's Big Ten Final. And

2078
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 8: what if UNLV is picked to be the host, not

2079
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 8: only Ian as one of the two finalists, but picked

2080
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 8: to be the host. That would be two conference finals

2081
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 8: same place, well within twenty four hours. And it's not

2082
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 8: the Raiders Stadium by the way, with all the money

2083
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 8: the State of Nevada put into that one. But yeah,

2084
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 8: programming reminder, Fox TV with two conference championship games next Saturday.

2085
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 8: Number one Georgia will be in the SEC title game

2086
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 8: against Alabama next Saturday. Bulldogs have won twenty nine in

2087
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 8: a row, Georgia a winner at Georgia Tech thirty one

2088
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 8: twenty three. Michigan is twelve to zero as well, after

2089
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 8: beating Ohio State for a third straight year thirty to

2090
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 8: twenty four. AP points out that Michigan this season is

2091
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 8: the only FBS team that has yet to trail in

2092
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 8: the second half.

2093
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

2094
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 8: No team since at least twenty fifteen has gone an

2095
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 8: entire seat and without trailing in the second half. Next

2096
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 8: Saturday night, Michigan Iowa Big Ten title game on Fox

2097
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 8: Washington is twelve to zero after edging rival Washington State

2098
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 8: twenty four to twenty one, kicking a forty two yard

2099
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 8: field goal on the final play, and Florida State won

2100
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 8: the battle of backup quarterbacks coming back at Florida, beating

2101
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 8: the Gators twenty four to fifteen. Here, the Seminoles had

2102
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 8: trailed twelve to nothing late in the first app but

2103
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 8: Florida State's defense did have six sacks in this one.

2104
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 8: Alabama won at Auburn twenty seven to twenty four on

2105
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 8: a last minute touchdown pass on a fourth and goal

2106
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 8: at the thirty one where Hugh Freeze decides to rush

2107
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 8: two literally, two defenders rush plus a spy in the

2108
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 8: middle against five offensive linemen and so and I mean

2109
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:50,799
Speaker 8: this literally. The quarterback Jalen Milroe had all the time

2110
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 8: he needed to throw the winning touchdown pass fourth and

2111
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 8: thirty one.

2112
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's go.

2113
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 8: Figure And don't forget the muff punt by Auburn with

2114
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 8: under five minutes to go as well. Kentucky wins at

2115
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 8: number ten Louisville thirty eight thirty one on a thirty

2116
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 8: seven yard touchdown run, which just over a minute left.

2117
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 8: Louisville is nonetheless in next Saturday's ACC championship game against

2118
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 8: Florida State, and it is official that Mark Stoops is staying.

2119
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 8: Texas A and M quote wanted him Michigan State's new

2120
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 8: head coaches. Jonathan Smith from Oregon State Yahoo reports Mississippi

2121
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 8: State wants Oklahoma offensive coordinator Jeff Levy. LSU beat Texas

2122
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 8: A and M forty two to thirty. Quarterback Jalen Daniels

2123
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 8: over one hundred yards rushing. He also had three touchdown

2124
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 8: passes just in the fourth quarter. Arizona won fifty nine

2125
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 8: to twenty three at Arizona State as the Wildcats quarterback

2126
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 8: Noah Fafiita had over five hundred yards passing and five

2127
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 8: touchdowns while ASU had only eighty two yards passing and

2128
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 8: three turnovers.

2129
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 2: Checked down Arnie Spaniard, Yeah, is he doing okay?

2130
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 8: You thought Michigan fans were feeling themselves. Oh my goodness,

2131
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 8: he should be man.

2132
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 1: He should take a victory left. Congrats to Jeff Fishing Club.

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Speaker 1: That's been one of the stories of the year.

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Speaker 8: It's astounding that they are a team Harney that finished

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01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 8: third in the Pac twelve cons I know, the toughest

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01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 8: Pac twelve ever, and Arizona fished third seven and two

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01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 8: in conference play. Six straight wins since that triple overtime

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01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 8: loss at USC, Notre Dame dominated at Stanford, Iowa State

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01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 8: one in the snow at Kansas State, Oklahoma State with

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01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 8: a double overtime victory in the rain against BYU and

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01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 8: a comeback. So next Saturday, it's Oklahoma State against Texas

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01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 8: in the Big Twelve Final victories for Tennessee and nc

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01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 8: State wins for Clemson and Liberty SMU eight no. In

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01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 8: the American will be at Tulane next week in a

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01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 8: conference final. By the way, Liberty is twenty fifth in

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01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 8: the College Football Playoff rankings. This week they finished eight

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01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 8: to no in Conference USA and we'll be hosting second

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01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 8: place New Mexico State next week. It was University of

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01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 8: New Mexico at four and eight that fired its coach today,

2150
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 8: Danny Gonzalez. As for the NBA's late game, the Clippers

2151
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:03,600
Speaker 8: whipped Dallas earlier Lakers one at Cleveland College Hoops Alabama

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01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 8: ninety nine to ninety one. Over Oregon in the NHL,

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01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 8: an actual win for the Sharks for to three over

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01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 8: the Canucks. Final thing to say is that we have

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01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 8: two the last two bowl slots on the line in

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01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 8: college football. Cal if it wins tonight will be six

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01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 8: and six and in they're leading thirty three seven at

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01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 8: UCLA with under four minutes to go. Colorado State needs

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01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 8: a win to get the last bowl slot, but at

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01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 8: five and six, the Rams are losing the late game

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01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 8: at Hawaii. Starting the fourth quarter, home team up twenty

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01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 8: one to ten over Colorado State. And there's a game

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01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 8: on FS one was still almost three minutes left. San

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01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 8: Diego State at home now leads thirty three eighteen over

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Speaker 8: Fresno State.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, remember when there were like twelve million

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01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:50,719
Speaker 2: people watching a Colorado State game at two am during

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Speaker 2: this college.

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01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: M staying up, had to be up early, had to

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Speaker 1: be up early next morning, stayed up after the show,

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01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: which of course I'm not on the Pacific go so

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01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: this was very late because I just had to watch

2173
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 1: that game. Imagine if that game is being played right now,

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Speaker 1: be asleep the second this show was up.

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Speaker 8: Colorado State lost today to Utah twenty three seventeen which

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01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 8: means people, the Buffalo's finished in Pac twelve play one

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Speaker 8: in eighth this year, which is their same conference record

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01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 8: they had last year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know there's no I do know there's no

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01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 2: silver lining. By the way, we don't have to spend

2181
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 2: too much time on Dean. I think they ended up

2182
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 2: losing like five games by a touchdown or less. Now

2183
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 2: some of them, like well, you know, there was the

2184
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 2: Stanford game where they blew a twenty nine to zhering

2185
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 2: lead Oregon State. We were on air for it was

2186
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 2: never really competitive. It ended up being a seven point game,

2187
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 2: but three point loss to Arizona at home, six point

2188
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 2: loss today to Utah and.

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01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 8: The quarterback didn't play, so we get beat up today

2190
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 8: like all the other games that Shout Wires Anders had played.

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01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 2: I I think you could still look at it as

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01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 2: a net positive year. Absolutely, But yes, it's safe to

2193
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 2: say that the sizzle came out of that stay.

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01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:06,520
Speaker 8: Financially alone, it's by far. Yeah, it's in that positive absolutely.

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01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you very much to Sega. We

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01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 2: appreciate you. To Saga will be back tomorrow with Willard

2197
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 2: and Kyle Rudolph and the Saga will not be back

2198
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 2: tomorrow because because Sunday Night football at the Chargers, right,

2199
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,759
Speaker 2: a lot of Chargers fans, they got a little NFL

2200
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 2: work to do. Okay, all right, well, Arnie Spaniel will

2201
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 2: be Arnie Spander gave you the night off apparently, so okay,

2202
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 2: all right to Saga will be back with us next week.

2203
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: He'll be in throughout the week as well. But I'll

2204
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 2: tell you what, Pat really quickly, let's get to these

2205
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 2: last two games on the NFL slate that we want

2206
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 2: to go ahead and preview. What's first, Pep?

2207
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 9: All right, guys, what we got for the first game

2208
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 9: is we have an AFC South matchup. We got the

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Speaker 9: Jacksonville Jaguars taking on the Houston Texans, and boy is

2210
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 9: it gonna be probably a pretty close fight. Now, the

2211
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:53,719
Speaker 9: ones that are actually favored, it's not the home team

2212
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 9: in Houston. It's actually Jacksonville favored by two points. I'll

2213
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 9: start with you, Aaron, who thinks gonna come out with

2214
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 9: the W.

2215
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 10: On this one?

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01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really torn. Obviously, Houston has been playing

2217
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 2: so well of late, but Jacksonville has been playing pretty

2218
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:11,759
Speaker 2: well as well. I mean, obviously they took that ugly

2219
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 2: loss to San Francisco a few weeks ago, but they

2220
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 2: also lost earlier in the year to Houston. So it

2221
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 2: is a situation where not only do they only have

2222
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 2: a one game lead in the division, but you can't

2223
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 2: sit here and say they're looking past Houston because they

2224
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 2: lost to him early in the year and that game

2225
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 2: was an ugly fashion. So I'll go ahead and take

2226
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 2: Jacksonville to win. It is obviously a road game, It's

2227
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough challenge, but I do like them

2228
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 2: to win.

2229
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you again. I think that Houston being

2230
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 1: in this segment where we picked four games every week

2231
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 1: shows a lot. Damiko. Ryan's definitely gonna be up there

2232
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 1: for Coach of the Year. He'll be in the mix.

2233
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud is just a revelation, which is also

2234
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: a bad look for Ryan Day. Just watching what Stroud

2235
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 1: is doing in the NFL. It's just taking one more

2236
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: shot to Ryan Day while we're out of here. But

2237
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville came into the season as a favorite to win

2238
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,600
Speaker 1: the division. They've righted the ship and I think the

2239
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 1: best thing that I saw from them a week ago

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Speaker 1: is they finally got Calvin Ridley involved again. He had

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01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 1: not done anything for four or five weeks. It's felt

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01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 1: like he had just dropped off the face of the

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01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: planet and then he re emerged. And if that is

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01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 1: going to continue going forward, that changes everything for the

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01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. So give me the Jags. I think Ridley's

2246
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: set for another big one.

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01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 9: All right, Well with that one, we got one more.

2248
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 9: What's save the best for? Last week got the Cleveland

2249
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 9: Browns taking on Jason Martin's Denver Broncos, and Jason, I'll

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Speaker 9: be going to you first. Before that, I'm gonna level

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01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:45,600
Speaker 9: with you. The favorite to win is the Denver Broncos

2252
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,480
Speaker 9: with one and a half point favorites.

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01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 2: Jason, I need to know. Do you think your boy's

2254
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 2: gonna do it?

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Speaker 1: No? I don't. I just because the Browns are that

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01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 1: good defensively. I just think this is a test that

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01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 1: we haven't seen. The Denver has not seen by we,

2258
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean the football watching public. Kansas City's defense pretty good,

2259
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 1: they did win that game. Buffalo's defense was beating up.

2260
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 1: The Vikings defense is average at best. They have not

2261
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 1: seen anything like they're gonna see. I think the pass

2262
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 1: rush is gonna bother Russell Wilson. It's gonna be a

2263
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: really ugly, low scoring game that Cleveland will win by

2264
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 1: field goal.

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01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 2: Well, that last part ugly and low scoring. You know,

2266
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson obviously an incredible story. You know rookie

2267
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 2: played at UCLA, who's obviously playing right now. I just

2268
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 2: think you're asking him to go on the road at

2269
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 2: altitude against a much improved team over the last couple weeks.

2270
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 2: So we will disagree on this one. I will take

2271
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos to win and cover against the Cleveland Browns.

2272
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, we will come back, and when

2273
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 2: we come back, put a bow on the show. Talk

2274
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 2: a little College football, NFL. That's next final segment coming up,

2275
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports.

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Speaker 10: Threat for goal from the thirty one yard line. Here's

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01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 10: the snap. No Rose stands in, lets everybody get downfield,

2278
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 10: still standing, he throws.

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01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: Into the end zone. It it's caught.

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01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 10: It's caught by Isaiah Bond in the corner of the

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01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 10: end zone.

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01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 2: Touchdown down Obama. That was Eli Gold the Alabama Radio Network,

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Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot Com. Let me say this, Jason,

2288
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: if you've never listened to the podcast of this show

2289
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 2: before tomorrow, is a heck of a day to start.

2290
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 2: Did a lot of reaction to O howse State Michigan,

2291
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 2: took a lot of calls from Ohio, from Michigan, from whatever,

2292
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 2: talked a lot of Texas A and M which had

2293
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 2: their coach and then didn't, all within the timeframe of

2294
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 2: our show. Busy Night, Jason, fun night though.

2295
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And it's kind of been chaos. And

2296
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: if you if you listen to that podcast, Mark, you'll

2297
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: basically hear the entire the entirety of the Mark Stoops

2298
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 1: coaching tenure. Yeah, I'm not gonna make that joke, by

2299
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 1: the way, don't make that joke tomorrow. It's already old, like,

2300
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: it's already been made by about a trillion people. It's

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01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: being compared to you know a lot of others like

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01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, Billy Donovan with the Orlando Magic or whoever

2303
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: else that you want to go to there. I just

2304
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: can't wait to read the full story on this and

2305
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 1: find out exactly what went down, and now we have

2306
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: to whoever it is that Texas A and M gets.

2307
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: And I do think this is fair critique that I've

2308
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: seen saw from Ari Wasserman at the Athletic and a

2309
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: few others. It's just like, do you want to win

2310
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: the press conference or do you want to win games?

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01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops is a good coach. Fans didn't like the name.

2312
01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't sexy enough. How many times does the home

2313
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: run name turn out to win? How many times does

2314
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 1: the home run name the big name? How often does

2315
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: that work out? And how often does it go the

2316
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:12,120
Speaker 1: opposite direction. A lot of great coaches, you know, were

2317
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 1: not popular. I saw a bunch of I actually saw

2318
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 1: some sexas A and M people on message board saying

2319
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: why can't we go get Jedfish. I'm like you saying Jetfish,

2320
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 1: the Arizona didn't want the Arizona's fans didn't want that's

2321
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 1: done this this year, and now you want him like

2322
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: you got to make sure you're not run by your fans.

2323
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I do think there is

2324
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 1: truth to the idea that winning the press conference sometimes

2325
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 1: needs to take a back seat much more than it.

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01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 2: Does, Jason. As we look ahead to next week, I

2327
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 2: want to just kind of talk a little bit about

2328
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 2: these games. You know, they're all officially set ore again.

2329
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 2: Washington will start things off next Friday nights, So make

2330
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 2: sure you're ready for that one top you know, eight

2331
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 2: seven matchup, whatever of being top six matchup. I'm seeing

2332
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 2: from DraftKings sportsbook. I don't know if the line has moved,

2333
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 2: but Oregon actually opened as a seven and a half

2334
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 2: point favorite in the DraftKings sports book last night. That

2335
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 2: was before the Apple Cup, which Washington we didn't even

2336
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 2: talk about. That's how crazy the day was. Washington survived

2337
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 2: on the last second field goal. You mentioned your thoughts

2338
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 2: on Oregon earlier. What do you think about Oregon going

2339
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 2: up for a second time against the Washington Huskies.

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01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: This just feels like this is where we're going to

2341
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 1: see that Oregon's a better team. Washington's been teetering on

2342
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 1: the brink now for what seems like ever since they

2343
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 1: beat Oregon. They just haven't looked the same. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Pennix has looked the same, and that's a considerable problem.

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Speaker 1: So give me Oregon. I think Oregon does win the game,

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Speaker 1: maybe even more than what the spread has it right now.

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Speaker 2: Georgia it looks like was a four and a half

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Speaker 2: point favorite. Again, I'm getting this off social media. I

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Speaker 2: have not seen anything official for these games yet, but

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Speaker 2: Georgia about a four to four and a half point

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Speaker 2: favorite against Alabama. What do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: One? Depends on which Alabama shows up. There's two versions.

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Speaker 1: There is one that can beat Georgia and there's another

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Speaker 1: one that can get absolutely destroyed by Georgia. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take Georgia to win. I think it's a tough matchup,

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Speaker 1: and it's the one that Kirby Smart I still think

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Speaker 1: doesn't want he fears. I hope it's a great game,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I just don't think anybody can take

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Speaker 1: Georgia right now.

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Speaker 2: I picked Alabama win the SEC in the preseason. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to say the same. By the way, it is

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Speaker 2: a five point favorite in the Draft Kings Sports book.

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Speaker 2: Really quick, does Florida State take care of business against

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Speaker 2: Louisville to win the ACC and give the committee something

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Speaker 2: to think about with that four team playoff?

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Speaker 1: Man? That is tough, really really yeah, I'll tell I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take Louisville in the game. I just think that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be That's gonna be a tall order. Even though

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Speaker 1: Louisville is certainly flawed and coming off the loss, I

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Speaker 1: think is actually worse for Florida State when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Louisville losing to Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent concern in ten seconds or

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Speaker 2: less for either Michigan against Iowa or Texas versus.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, we need three seconds.

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Speaker 2: No, all right? That case sets up a very interesting

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Speaker 2: scenario potentially next week, but we gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew. Lorraina on the board, producer

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Speaker 2: pat for Steve is Sager, my partner Jason Martin. I

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Speaker 2: am Aaron Torres. Make sure to download the podcast. Also

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto coming up next. This is Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Are you