1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleventh, Ryo to Washington, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomber to Boston, Bloomberg twelve, UNDI to San Francisco, 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to the Country series XAM doanal one and around 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus Appen Bloomberg got gone. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: This is taking stock French yogurt maker down, grappling with 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: a drop in dairy consumption around the world, taking a 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: big step into soy milk, protein shakes, kale and the 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: kicks starting growth. Will it work? We're going to take 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: a look at dons takeover of White Wave PIM. Yes, 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: White Wave Foods have formerly a subsidiary of Dean Foods 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: that was spun off in initial public offering in August 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: of twelve and today dan On and just say making 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: a ten billion dollar bid for White Wave Foods. Right now, 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: let's go to Charlie pellan In and I thank you PIM. 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kathleen, she mentioned to the White Wave shares 16 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: there surging eighteen point five percent of eight seventy eight 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Right now, fifty six twenty one ticker w w a 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: V stocks are lower, halting an advance in global equities 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: crewed down around forty five dollars of barrow right now 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: West Texas Intermediate forty five seventeen. It is lower by 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: four point eight percent. Brent crewed also lower by four 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: point eight percent. Treasury is falling with gold amid easing 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: demand for haven assets before tomorrow's payrolls report. Right now, 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: we've got the tenure down five thirty seconds. Deal there 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: one point three eight percent, Gold down five forty bounced. 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: It is down four tenths of one percent the thirteen 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: sixty one. Tony Quisenzi is portfolio manager at Pimco. He 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: spoke with Bloomberg Television this morning about Friday's jobs report 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow and the job for the wage take here, it's expected, 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: carrencent the Bloomberg consensus to move to two point seven 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: percent year for here from two point five, which would 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: mark the highest rate since the two thousand nine, the 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: highest of the ex mention. That would be an indication 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: then that the labor market is getting tighter, that resource 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: utilization is moving up, the inflation eventually will move up 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: towards the FEZ two objective, and so to pay attention 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: to that. Yes, it is Thursday, but we did get 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the ADP report today because of the holiday, ADP says 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: companies in June kept adding workers to US payrolls, private 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: payrolls climbing by a hundred and seventy two thousand last week. 41 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: Last month, I should say last week, the Labor Department 42 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: said claims dropped by sixteen thousand to two hundred fifty 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: four thousand, SMP down four to two thousand, ninety five, 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: a drop of two tenths of one percent. And now 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: let's take a look at other news from around the world. 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Charlie from the Bloomberg News room. I'm Jill Schneider. 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: The New York Times is reporting that Senator Bernie Sanders 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: is expected to endorse Hillary Clinton on Tuesday. That is 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: according to three party sources. FBI Director James Comey has 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: been in the hot seat today answering questions about the 51 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server 52 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: and why he recommended no charges be filed. Comey denies 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: there was any bias behind the decision. Are folks did 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: it in a political and professional way, including our recommendation 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: as to the appropriate resolution of this case. Comey says 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: he found no evidence that Clinton knew that anything she 57 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: was doing was against the law. How Speaker Paul Ryan 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: is offering praise to Donald Trump after the likely GOP 59 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: presidential nominee met with more than two hundred House Republicans 60 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: this morning. What I thought was especially helpful today was 61 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: our members just got access and got to ask questions 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: and and and and talk about their their issues. So 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was very good meeting. Today's meeting was 64 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Trump's first sit down with the full House Republican Conference. 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: Today's meeting was Trump's first sit down with the full 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: House Republican Conference. Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn said they 67 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: had a good exchange and that his colleagues were candid 68 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: with Trump about their concerns about his tone and style. 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Food prices around the world rose in June by the 70 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: most in almost four years. The United Nations food price 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: and was up more than four The law firm representing 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Chris Christie's office in the George Washington Bridge Lane closing 73 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: case wants to shut down requests by defense attorneys to 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: examine personal items belonging to the Republican New Jersey governor, 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: including his cell phone. Bill Baroni and Bridget Kelly claim, 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: a former aid exchanged text messages with the governor during 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: testimony by Bridge officials. Global News twenty four hours a day, 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: powered by more than journalists and analysts in more than 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: one countries. From the Bloomberg Newsroom. I'm Jill Schneider, Charlie, 80 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: and we thank you, and again recapping S and P 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: five hundred index down three to two thousand, a drop 82 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: of two tenths of one. I'm Charlie Pellett. That's a 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash. This is taking stock with Pim's box 84 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: and Kathleen waves on Bloomberg Radio at ten billion dollar 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: deal for French yogurt maker done known. Will it be 86 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: worth it? As it purchases white Wave foods, helping it 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: go from yogurt to products that maybe are a little 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: more popular in a world where many people are turning 89 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: from dairy products towards soy milk, protein shakes and other 90 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: kinds of foods. Joining us now as Nancy Haven's Hasty. 91 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: She's president and chief investment officer at Haven's Advisors here 92 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: in New York City. Nancy, welcome to the show. Thank you, Kathleen, 93 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: So this deal does it make sense? Were you surprised 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: to see you do you say, of course, Well, I 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: think UM white Wave has been a takeover target ever 96 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: since it was spun off from Dean Food, so it's 97 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: not totally surprising that this deal was announced for don Own, 98 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: which has quite a large UM exposure to the dairy market. 99 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: This plant based food company UM and organic food company 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: is a bit of a hedge to its business where 101 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: people are moving away from dairy and towards plant based 102 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: and organic foods. It's also UM the most rapidly growing 103 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: area of the food business, so for a lot of 104 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: reasons it makes sense for then Own. Nancy, explain a 105 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: little bit about Haven's advisors and your expertise when it 106 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: comes to mergers and acquisitions. UM. Okay, we do merger 107 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: arbitrage and we are an event based UM investment manager, 108 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: and I have been doing this for a little over 109 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: twenty years UM in this format and before that UM 110 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: we've been doing it elsewhere had other brokerage firms. So 111 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: we explain to our listeners and an events based manager 112 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: what exactly that means and how are you different from others? Well, 113 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: event may event based investment managing UH is basically investing 114 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: in UH situations where there is a specific event that 115 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: will result in a change in value for a security. 116 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: You have to hop in before it happens, or is 117 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: it more hopping on board once it is then Yes, 118 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: this makes sense. I see a lot of value potential 119 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: gains from my clients. Okay, well we are basically murder 120 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: of tasers merger are people generally get in after the 121 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: announcement is made, after the announcement of a deal or 122 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: an event is made, but before it's consummated. Right, You're 123 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: not trying to sort of divine where the next acquisition 124 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: is going to be. But having said that, Nancy, you 125 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: mentioned an interesting point about the growing business for organic food. 126 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: In the White Wave acquired earth Bound Farms, that was 127 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: the that's America's largest grower of organic produce. Back in 128 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: the price tag there was six hundred million dollars. Do 129 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: you expect multiples for these kinds of food companies to 130 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: increase as a result of this deal? Um? I don't 131 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: know that this deal is going to be done at 132 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: twenty four times trailing um uh ibada, twenty one times 133 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: uh two thousands sixteen ibada, and fourteen times two thousand 134 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and sixteen after synergies. Those are all relatively healthy multiples, 135 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: but they're not outrageous, and multiples vary with the size 136 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: of the company. UM. A ten billion dollar company is 137 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: sort of a medium to large merger, and multiples tend 138 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: to tend to get lower as the deals get bigger, 139 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: whereas they get higher with smaller deals. So I think 140 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: UM I don't really anticipate that multiples will change in 141 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: this area, but it is unquestionably an attractive area in 142 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: which to invest. Our Bloomer News story focuses on UM 143 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: down Own's chief Emmanuel Favor that it's his it's his 144 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: first big move. You know, he spent the first year 145 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: trying to revive sluggish sales and to know core European 146 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: dairy segment. As you assess a deal like this, how 147 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: much weight do you put on White Wave in this 148 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: and the products and how they round out their portfolio? 149 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: How much do you put on management and a leader 150 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: like him? Well, UM management is extremely crucial to getting 151 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: a deal like this done. UM always getting managements to 152 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: agree and be on the same page UM determines the 153 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: success or failure of a management. These companies certainly mentioned 154 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: that their cultures were similar, that they were both trying 155 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: to achieve the same thing. They're both trying to achieve 156 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: healthy based eating UH in In France at Dono they 157 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: call it alimentation. Here's they call it food and drink UM. 158 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: But they're both attempting to be in exactly the same 159 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: business and have similar corporate cultures. So I think that 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: the prospects are probably pretty good for this merger. Nancy, 161 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: just a little bit more on the general market for 162 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: mergers and acquisitions are do you expect to see many 163 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: more blockbuster deals? Do you expect for example, this deal 164 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Mandalise and the Hershey Company to Progress Mandels and her 165 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: She is really quite a different situation. As you know her. 166 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: She has been did for in the past and has 167 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: never actually ended up getting acquired her. She has a 168 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: trust that UM controls the voting power of Hershey, and 169 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: UM the state of Pennsylvania has something to do with 170 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: that trust and control of that trust, and they have 171 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: more than once decided that the employment and the presence 172 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: of Hershey in the state of Pennsylvania was more important 173 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: than uh a higher premium for the trust shares. Thank 174 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: you very much, Nancy Haven's Hasty the President, Chief Investment Officer. 175 00:10:53,920 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: Haven's advisors This is Bloomberg. The minutes of the fed's 176 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: meeting in June release Yesterday's show. A group of policymakers 177 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: debating just what's going on in the labor market. Russ 178 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: Kestridge coming up from Black Raw to talk about what 179 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: this means for equities.