1 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Harry with you on the official LA 2 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Chargers podcast. Today, my guest is ESPN's Matt Bowen. Bowen 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: discusses Gus Bradley's defense, the Stellars start to Desmond King's 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: NFL career, and his fantasy sleepers for twenty seventeen. He's 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the best when it comes to XS and o's, so 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: let's get right into it. Here's Matt Bowen. Today's guests 7 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people in the business to 8 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: hear talk football. Doesn't matter what it is, XS and 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: o's fantasy. You always learned something new when Matt Bowen 10 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: speaks and he joins me. Now you can follow him 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Matt Bowen forty one. Matt, we got 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: one more weekend and the NFL is officially back in business. 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: One more game, and you know at this game, to 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the veterans, you know you're not gonna play much, maybe 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: not at all. A lot of the starters don't play. 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: I always tell the story, it's a lot different when 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: I was still in the league, and I even go 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: back to my rookie season in two thousand. Our starting 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: safety Gonna Lot banged up, so I had an opportunity 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: to start the final in the fourth preseason game and 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm out there line up against Troy eight and the Cowboys, 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: and then Troy can play in the fourth preseason game. 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: That's all it was back then. You still play it, 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: and the preseason schedule has tamed so much in terms 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: of they amount of reps that you see starters getting well. 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: She can go both ways. I mean, I think as 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: the veteran, you got to play in the preseason, need 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: live game reps. You need to go through in game adjustments. 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: You need to have that simulation to get ready for 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the regular season. But also the oppidy. Hey, we've seen 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the preseason go down with 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: injuries and season ending injuries, so I can understand this. 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: So really what this game is about, fourth preseason game. 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: If you're a young guy, if you're number fifty two 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: right now on the roster, number fifty five or fifty six, 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: season six, you know he cut down on a fifty 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: three this weekend. You gotta make a play. You gotta 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: make something happen. That's a great thing about put football 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: and it's opportunity based. Everyone wasn't get an opportunity to 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: play tonight. Those guys who have not had a lot 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: of a lot of reps, who have not had a 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of reps of practice too, this is their opportunity. 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: That might not be making a play to get on 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: the charter with the Bears roster, it might be able 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: to even making a play. Hey, maybe Jacksonville's looking for 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: another safety. Maybe Jacksonville is looking for cover kicks. Maybe 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: the Newland papers are looking for that hybrid safety they 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: could play in their gympacts. You don't know what it is. 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: So it's still a great opportunity to go out play football, 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: try to make a play offense. People's especially special teams. 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this too, there's no one left. Okay. 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: So what I mean by that is that last preseason game, 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: you can't go to the sideline Chapter Hill and says, hey, 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I need to blow. There's no one left to put in. 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Starters aren't coming in, not putting their pads on the 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You gotta go, you gotta go. And it's 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: a great test of the conditioning in your mental toughness 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: tonight too, because I've been in that fourth preseason game. 59 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: I've been in it not only as a rookie, But 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: later in my player when I was still trying to 61 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: stay in the league and make the team. You're not 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: coming out, You're gonna go cover kick and play defense. 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Are you're playing punt returns the offense turns over the 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: fall and needed. That's what you're right back on the field. 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: But the great thing about that, it's more reps, more film. 66 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: It's what leaves about film. It's about putting quality stuff 67 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: on film. Greg Williams, my defense Corner to Washington, always 68 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: used to tell us every day is an interview, and 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: every chance you have to get yourself on film, that's 70 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: a chance to autograph your performance. So what a beautiful 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: thing tonight for those young guys who are trying to 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: make an NFL club. Great opportunity it is. It's a 73 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: huge opportunity. And this podcast, we're taping this on a Thursday. 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Friday morning. So the Chargers would 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: have played the forty nine Ers. And like you said, Matt, 76 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: the cutdown has been changed this year, so you have 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: that extra game to put stuff on film. Let me 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: give you an example. We've seen Philip rivers for three 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: series or in the preseason, three touchdowns, eleven or twelve 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: three touchdown drives, two touchdown passes. We know what Philip 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Rivers is. It's all about these young guys trying to 82 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: figure out how we're going to fill out this roster 83 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: in the depth behind some of these high quality starters 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. It is, it is, and it just 85 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: goes back to that opportunity, and really it's not good. Look, 86 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: you talk about Philip Rivers, that's what you want. You 87 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: want to points every drive in the preseason, that's what 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: you want. Or field pass you want to put together 89 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: three four first downs and similate those game situations. Punt 90 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: the ball, gigger defense, good feel position because you want 91 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: to fear defense in those in those different game situations 92 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: as well. Look, I want a piece for ESPN last 93 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: week because I think everyone right now is trying to 94 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: figure out the preseason. You know what's the best solution here? 95 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: Do you need four games? Can you cut it down 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: to three? Cut it down to two? I think more 97 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: and more teams and LA did this this this Summers 98 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: have joint practices. Now, joint practices are great, They're great. 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: I went through them. I'll tell you a story when 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: I was a rookie with the Rams. This is right 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: after you know, Kurt and Marshall and those guys just 102 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: beat Tennessee Titans and one of the great Super Bowl. 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: So Tennessee came with Coombe in Illinois where a western 104 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: Illinois universe about thousand degrees, and they came for three 105 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: days of practices plus the scrimmage. I want up for 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: inside run, Inside run is it's all runs. There's nowhere 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: to hide, and then it puts you in the phone book. 108 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: I look across the line and Frank white Check said, 109 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: tight end the runs on Nails at fullback and Eddie 110 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: George's at tailback. I was like, okay, this is what 111 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: the NFL as. I guess they about to lead ice. 112 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: So right at it's me and Lorenzo Nail and I've 113 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: done a lot of radio and Low he's up in 114 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: the bear and now doing radio. Awesome guy, and Low 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: hits me and I mean it's like everything came out 116 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: of my body. Everything I said, I've never even hit 117 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: like that in my life. And the next play, Eddie 118 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: George's monsters ball outside, you know, and it's not Lad, 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: it's stud He's supposed to wrap up. Well, when you 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: got to just wrap up at a George Yes, to 121 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: have to let him run. So it was a lake 122 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: up call. But I needed those rests in the game. 123 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: Those are opportunities for your front office, your head coach, 124 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: your geng your position coaches are evaluate what you can do. 125 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: The speed of the game dramatically increases. Are the speed 126 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: of practice in this case dramatically increases. It's because of 127 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: the competition level rises. And I know there's you know 128 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: what what you'ring to practice things to get heated. You 129 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: know what that that happens. It's not going to ruminate 130 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: thing if things get heated. We've heared all all all 131 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: summer between teams that have joined practices. But hey, that's 132 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to raise your own level competition, competition, 133 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: and get more filmed. Because all that stuff is films 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: always roll, always roll. I don't know, opportunity to get evaluate. 135 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: I think every team needs to do that now they do. 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: You got to do that because of the CBA, because 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: of the reduction the amount of time to get hit 138 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: in your own sessions. You gotta have another team come 139 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: in to raise that competition level and put these players 140 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: in a better situation to where they can be a 141 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: valuable and you know, Matt, that was a big reason 142 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: why in that second preseason game Chargers in Saints Drew 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Brees and Philip Rivers didn't play in that game because 144 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: of the quality work that they got in during the week. 145 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I'd tell you that first, that first joint practice between 146 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Saints, Philip Rivers, the ball didn't 147 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: hit the ground and they got some fantastic working on 148 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: both sides of the football. At that point, you're like, 149 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: all right, we went up against these guys on Thursday 150 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: and Friday. We don't need to see Philip Rivers in 151 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: a game on Sunday because we know what he was 152 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: able to do against these guys earlier in the week. 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously the Rams. They got two 154 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: really good practices against the Rams when it's stopub Center, 155 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: one at UC Irvine. So you know, I talked to 156 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Dan Feeney and he said, for him, a rookie, a 157 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: young guy, to get those reps against another opponent, mind you, 158 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: he's got to go up against that Chargers defensive line 159 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: every single day. But to go up against a Saints 160 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: D line or a Rams D line, mind you. Aaron 161 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: Donaldson not in camp. Yet it just it gives you 162 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of that barometer where you're like, all right, this 163 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: is where I I stand, and this is kind of 164 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: a taste of what the NFL is going to be 165 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: like on Sundays when it starts to be real right. 166 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: And the best part about that is it's as to 167 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: the young guys, is you haven't studied tape, like you said, 168 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: for example, in the Chargs cracks and the Saints either 169 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: studied their tape. Kind of rookie. You can't cheat, That's 170 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. You can't say why I know this 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: guys can beat him with the rip move or he's 172 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna be in the stance. I can get him back 173 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: in his heels when I rushed the past. I know 174 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: what this wide receiver wants to do at the top 175 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: of the break. No, no, you can't cheat. And what 176 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean by that it dude has to line up, 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: read the keys to play ball. That's the best point 178 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: as the best opportunity to evaluate. So we see how 179 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: they react. They can you react to route you've never 180 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: seen before? Can you react to personnel you have not 181 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: practice against? Just be honest, your practice with your own 182 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: team After a week, you know everyone's positive and negatives. 183 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: You know how to take advantage of your teammates on 184 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: the field and their strengths and what this says. You 185 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: know what can get you beat, what allows you to 186 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: make to play. When we bring to their team in 187 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: they see the lineup, reading keys and play football. Let's 188 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: find out who's physical, who's tough, who's a smart football player? 189 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: Because that's really what it is. That's smart, tough and physical. 190 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: That's football right there. To me, whether it's at the 191 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: high school level where I coach Saturdays in college football 192 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: or Sundays in the program. If I'm an evaluator, if 193 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm a head coach, I want smart, tough and physical players. 194 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: That's it. That's that's what you need. And I think 195 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn is creating an environment where he wants mentally 196 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: tough and physically tough players. And I think I think 197 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: you're seeing that change in this football team from last 198 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: year to this year. And Matt, I want to talk 199 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: about this defense with Gus Bradley coming in, if you 200 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: could take the fans through what this defense is about 201 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: and how the person knel on this defense fits this 202 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: scheme that Gus likes to run right Okay, Well, it's 203 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the same scheme you're gonna watch with the Seattle Seahawks 204 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: or Banklin Don And honestly, they are variations. I mean, 205 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: you'll droughout the season. You'll see the Chargers run some 206 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: single high man free and they'll bring some zone pressures, 207 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: some man pressures. They might play some too deep. Everyone 208 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: has a bunch of stuff that their game player they 209 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: can run. But at the core, that's why I talk 210 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: about defense. What aren't the core. They're three deep Foreignerny, 211 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: they'll cover three team, okay, and we'll cover three. What 212 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: you need, first of all, is four guys up front 213 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: that can win versus run. In the past, you want 214 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: guys that are cook off the ball to athletic. They 215 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: can win and play gap control versus a run. They 216 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: can get home versus a quarterbackers. Any time you're playing 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: a zone defense, whether it's Gus Bradley and whether they 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: were talking about Lovey Smith when he was here in 219 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: Chicago running too deep, you gotta have the guys up front. 220 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: But in the back seven again, it's speed. It's speed, 221 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: it's speed, vision and tackling. That's where what it is. 222 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: It's not complicating. That's what I love about this defense. 223 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a mad scientist because Chris, 224 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: you're going to do so much with eleven guys in 225 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: the field, right, Okay, you're not going to recreate football 226 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: knowing is I mean, some coaches think they can, you cannot. 227 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: So let's find a defense that allows our players to 228 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: play fast. And that's what this defense is. You gotta 229 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: have a free safety in the post. God that's got range. 230 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: They can close the what I say, close the scene 231 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: in the post, take away the scene route, take away 232 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: the post route because there's range. His vision is football intelligence. 233 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: To get a break in the ball, you gotta have 234 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: corners outside of the those physical and very aggressive guys 235 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: that have great feat that can pattern match. Because and 236 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: coach Bradley's cover three a lot of times, they'll see 237 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: him in press. You said, well, you know, let's learn 238 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: how cover three is. And it's a little different because 239 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: cover three at the high school in the college is loving. 240 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: You see corners off at seven yards, they're they're go 241 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: pedal and stay on top of the outside third. Well, 242 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: this defense, they're gonna press and they're gonna match any 243 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: vertical route. It's almost it's like Uh. You know an 244 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: analogy here is anyone who's played hoops like a matchup 245 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: zone and basketball guy in his zone, and it's almost 246 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: like man right underneath. You gotta have guys that are 247 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: fast to take great angles to the football. Wrap up 248 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: on contact because you're gonna you'renna force the ball underneath. 249 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna force the ball underneath. Look. I posted a 250 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: Suddin Desmond King last week at a play he made 251 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: versus the Saints ball in the flat was he did 252 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: a breakdown hill with speed, wrap up, put the ball 253 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: care in the ground. Let's a win for the defense. 254 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: That's what you want to get to. It's what you 255 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: want to get to. And you want to get to 256 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: the offense in the third and seven to ten, do 257 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: you want to force up to the ball in the 258 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: flat or forcing the throw the intermediate checkdown? Then you 259 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: drive down hill, you put your pads on, and you 260 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: wrap up and say to football, ton punks football, because 261 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna take away everything over the top. We're gonna 262 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: get incredible depth with our linebackers or safety or nickel underneath. 263 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna force you to throw the ball underneath. And 264 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: then that's where our personnel is going to stand out. 265 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: That's why we're looking for guys that have great hits, 266 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: great flexibility as athletes, and are physical as heck on contact. 267 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned Desmond King, Matt, and you and I spoke, 268 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: I want to say, a week or two after the draft, 269 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: and you said, hey, we're talking about draft value here 270 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: in the fifth round with Desmond King. And he's done 271 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: nothing but make plays in the preseason. Man, we're talking 272 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: about whatever you need. A sack, a tackle on a 273 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: third down, a pass breakup, hustle plays. I remember the 274 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: first preseason game, I think the most impressive play of 275 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: the preseason in my opinion, he walks some guy down 276 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: the Seattle running back in the fourth quarters like a 277 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: fifty yard run or a fifty yard pass, and he 278 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: hustled down, knocked the ball out. And it's just those 279 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: little plays. He has the instincts to me that can 280 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: change or alter the momentum of a football game. And 281 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: to have a guy like that, you put him in 282 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: the nickel with with Hayward and Varette, that's going to 283 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: be something there in the secondary. Yeah, and I love 284 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: it because you know there's no more stop Watch. I 285 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: don't want to get pads one. There's no more change 286 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: of direction, drills three tone. I don't care on hi. 287 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: A guy can jumpy. That's what I want to know, Chris, 288 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Can you play football? Okay? Because I think we look 289 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: at Dez and what d run four or five two 290 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: the forty? How do he play sasses in four or 291 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: five two? There's no question about it because his eyes, 292 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: his vision is great, his angles from the ball. He's 293 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: very well coached, you know. And I'm biased, absolutely, I'm 294 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I love Viola football. And Phil Parker was 295 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: nine defensive back coach way back in nineteen ninety nine. 296 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: He's still the defensive back coach at the University of Iowa. 297 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: Now he's a defensive coordinator as well. The fills one 298 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: of the best coaches ever played for because what does 299 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: he teach? Technique and fundamentals and physicality? Right goes back 300 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: to smart, tough and physical what we just talked about. 301 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: That's Viola football. That's always been Isolad football. And that's 302 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: what you get when you draft a guy from Iowad. 303 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Not only that, but the maturity I think you're getting 304 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: the second year pro. And what I mean by that, 305 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about talent level here, I'm talking about 306 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: the maturity, the football intelligence, the preparation, the accountability as 307 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: a football player. That's what you get when you draft 308 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: the Hawkeye, and I think you're seeing that with Dez 309 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: in the preseason because that means to be perfect. No, No, 310 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: the desert still rookie. He's gonna make mistakes here, gonna 311 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: make mistakes under the regular season. But what you're looking 312 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: at there is that arrow. Is the arrow pointing up? 313 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: And so he always looked out with the young player. 314 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Is it pointing up? Based in the offseason workouts? Okay, 315 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: so where he is right now heading into the end 316 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: of season, of course it is with DEAs. All you 317 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: gotta do is turn on the preseason tape. I've watched it. 318 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: Like you said, he could do a lot of different things. 319 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: That's his versatility. I think part of the reason he 320 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: fell a little bit in the drafts. There's a lot 321 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: of teams didn't know what he was. What is the 322 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: easy The safety is your box safety, is your post safety? 323 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Is he an outside corner? Is he a slot corner? 324 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Is he a zone defender? I'll say what, this is 325 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: a great system for him. What we just talked about 326 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: with coach Browley. This is a great system for death 327 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: is allows him to get his eyes on the quarterback, 328 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: allows him to see the field naturally. He's at his best. 329 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: If you go back to the isold film and look 330 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: at a lot of his ticks at Iowa's quarter quarner half, 331 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: that's what they world out of. You know, a lot 332 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: of people called cover six that I want to call 333 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: it cover eight quarter quarter half, and a lot of 334 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: him be a you know, rolled up corner at times, pressing, 335 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: pressing the wide receiver and playing the playing the flat 336 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: and tackling versus ron or quarter corner where he's over 337 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: the top again and eyes in the core of back, 338 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: has coached in the wide recepeaver breaking the throw. Who's 339 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: got excellent ball skills. I think what's to really see 340 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: for charters fans? As you see a guy's going to 341 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: pop onto him when you turn on the special teams 342 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: take that's where you have to make your money as 343 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: a rook You're going to get in the location, whether 344 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: it's in your sub packages or if the starter goes 345 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: down for a little bit, gets banged up, you're gonna 346 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: get in. But really your immediate values on special teams. 347 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: That's going to be able to cover kicks for you. 348 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: He can return kicks. He'll be a core special teams player. 349 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: But I've said this before, Chris, if you're a defensive 350 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: football player, you want to play special teams. It is 351 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: one of the best teaching tools in football, one of 352 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: the best because what do you have to go on 353 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: special teams? If you play fast, you have to win 354 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: with your hands, your technique at the point of attack, 355 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: to shed blocks or rip through blocks. You have to 356 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: create angles to the ball, and you have to tackle 357 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: the open field against the best returners in the world. 358 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: That's what those guys are the best in the world. 359 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: That's why there they're starting returners for NFL football teams. 360 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: That's an awesome, awesome developmental tool because the teachers in 361 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: the game of football, and I really think for any 362 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: young player because that's what I did as a rookie 363 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: with the grants. It's starting as special teams that's gonna 364 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: impact and dramatically increase your learning curve for pro football. 365 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: But in a roundabout way, you know, I get excited 366 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: when I talk about Dad. I'm not gonna lie about 367 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: that because I love I love Washington play at ioy 368 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: know what he meant to the Eyeball program. I know 369 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: how important he was for them to get to in 370 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: that rolls ball season. So an excellent football player. And really, now, 371 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you're drafted, right Prince, No one 372 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: cares anymore. So it doesn't matter if you're on a team, 373 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: you're not, if you're playing a role you're not. No 374 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: one cares. No one cares. Man, He's been a great 375 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: part about football. He's been the most impressive rookie I'll 376 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: be at for slamp. Unfortunate injury Mike Williams. We're still 377 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: wanting to see him on the field. But you know, 378 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Dafini's had a good camp. Some of these other guys 379 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: have had good camps, but with King, it's just wow. 380 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: And it's not so much in the practices. I mean, 381 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: it's it's when when the lights are on in the games. 382 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: That's why you're seeing these plays being made. And it's 383 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: just been a lot of fun to watch. Another guy 384 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about is actually two guys, 385 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: Jason Varette and Casey Hayward. How do those guys fit 386 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: what Gus likes to do? And we saw Varette for 387 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: the first time. Last week he had an interception, and 388 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: I think the anticipation of seeing him and Hayward together 389 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: in that secondary in this Gus Bradley's scheme is very 390 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: intriguing and everybody's waiting for Week one against the Broncos. Well, 391 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I'll start with Bradley's seeing yet of competitive corners, okay, 392 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: And everyone says they compete. They really get that. They 393 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: say it and sellistrates football too. I love the MP 394 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: and I understand that everyone loves show me, show me, 395 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: compete for the ball, compete at the at the top 396 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: of the route, the physical in the run, and that's competition. 397 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: Dyson Varette has some of the best footwork in the NFL. 398 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: I always used to term transition speed with the guys 399 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: I coached at the high school level. With his transitions 400 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: beat me. And then he's coming out of your pedal. 401 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: It means coming out of your brakes. That means closing 402 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: to the receiver or to the ball instantly. It's the best. 403 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: It's the best. I'm telling you. It's up there with 404 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, okay, in terms of his ability to plant 405 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: and driving the football, the sinking ships and break it. 406 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: And with Hayward, I mean in ron of the film 407 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: last year, he's around the ball. Okay, he's around the 408 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: football not And here's the thing with their receptions. You're 409 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: not going to plant and drive and cut in front 410 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: of the receiver every single time and make a pick. Okay, 411 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: that's not reality. Sometimes the ball just finds you. But 412 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: there's a reason the ball finds you. The guys who 413 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: are around the football are around the football for the reason. 414 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: They're in the proper alignment. They're playing with the proper 415 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: levage at cornerback, they're driving on the throw, they're doing 416 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: the proper things. That's why he's around the football. I 417 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: think you have two ultra competitive corners that can fit 418 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: perfectly in that system. That's what you want, that's what 419 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: you want. I'd love to coach those guys. I would 420 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: love to do it because of their technique. They're competitiveness, 421 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: and I think their toughness old ball is really going 422 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: to show in this system. I'm really excited to see 423 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: Hayward and Rhett together because I think Hayward did not 424 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: play in the third preseason game, so I think the 425 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: first time we're gonna see those guys together since last 426 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: season will be Week one against the Broncos, a big 427 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: test in Denver. But you know, Matt, when you look 428 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: at the offensive side of the ball, we know what 429 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is. He gets Keenan Allen back. I look 430 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: at the weapons on the outside here. Coupled with Melvin 431 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: Gordon in the backfield, this offense has an opportunity to 432 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: be super explosive. When you turn on the tape. What 433 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: do you see when all these guys are healthy. I 434 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: just you know, you don't really see a weakness I 435 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: think on the outside. No, you don't. Because Keenan Allen 436 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: is one of the best route runners in the NFL. 437 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: That's what he is. It may's so smooth, so smooth, 438 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: the way he stems the route, the way he sets 439 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: up defensive backs, in the way he creates a separation. 440 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: That's pro football. You have to do that to win. 441 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: You see what Antonio Brown all the time, Oh del Beck, 442 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: you see it with the top guys. Keen out it's 443 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: one of the top route runners in the NFL. There's 444 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: no question about that. Double tight end sets, double tight 445 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: end sets with Hunter Henry and Antonio Gates. Now, I'm 446 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: a big fan of Hunter running, big fan, big fan. 447 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: When you talk about what he can do from a 448 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: size and massive ability perspectives, what he can do within 449 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: the rob running, his athleticism, the way he can produce 450 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: after the kits, the way he had learned to use 451 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: his frame at the point of attest. I always go 452 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: back to the play they ran against Denver last season. 453 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: I think it was that Thursday night game. They ran 454 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: the fake tunnel screen outside and the Broncos I think 455 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: was sleeping. Chris Harris passed off the route which is 456 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: supposed to do and the goal line or deep red 457 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: zone situations called a banjo technique, and what happened was 458 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: Henry faked outside like he's blocking and stemmed up the 459 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: field on a little quick inside scene. As Chris Harris 460 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: might be one of the top cover guys in the NFL. 461 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: Chris Harris, come get to the football. Come get to 462 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: the football. Oh I did. It's almost like boxing guy 463 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: on hoops. If you got this in a low block, 464 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: probably get the ball in basketball, right, same thing with football. 465 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: In a position of the low block against Chris Harris, 466 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: turn around, great ball from Philip rivers upfield. Ch other 467 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: makes the play I think you saw last year. What 468 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: he can do inside of the red zone, being eight 469 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: total touchdowns, seven of them were in the plus twenty 470 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: area of the football field. That's chemistry, you know, and 471 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: that's Chris. You don't see that very often with young 472 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: skill players. Takes time to them to develop chemistry with 473 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: the veteran quarterback like Philip Rivers, and it was very 474 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: apparent they developed that chemistry quick that that Rivers would 475 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: look for him that often and Gates. And I know 476 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: Gates is at the end of his career, but he 477 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: still got the footwork to beat you. He still understands. 478 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy. He knows how to create leverage, 479 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: he knows he knows how to run option routes. He 480 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: understands immediately what the coverage is. And then I could 481 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: sit down in the soft phone and the zone coverage 482 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: to catching football, whether moved your six sticks or whether 483 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: to put points on the board. I think you can't 484 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: forget about Travis Benchman. We've seen mat but he's had 485 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: an open believable camp, unbelievable camp, and I think he's 486 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: going to be the X factor in this offense because 487 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: he stretches the field and he was hurt last year, 488 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: so that speed believe me, the speed is on full 489 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: display in camp. He's had two long touchdowns in preseason 490 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: games already. And to have him and Keenan Allen healthy, 491 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: coupled with those two tight ends and Tyroll Williams, Tyroll 492 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: Williams was the one who he led. He led the 493 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: team in receiving yards last year. He had a thousand 494 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: yards in seven touchdowns. Right and real quick on Benjamin, 495 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell her what true raw speed does. It's in 496 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: the secondary perspective. It impact everything. It does. You have 497 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: to know where he is in the field. If you're 498 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: a deep though safety and he's in the slot, you 499 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: better back up because you got to overlap the scenes 500 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: in the midl of the field. If you're a post 501 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: safety and he's outside, we might have to cheat your 502 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: line a little bit. You gotta get to the bottom 503 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: of the number. It's the post safety there itself to 504 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: help him the fade. You gotta go. Now you take 505 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: a false that or you're high in your back pedal, 506 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: you're stiff in your heads. You're not gonna help the quarner. 507 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: And it's a touchdown. It's a touchdown. Also, what that 508 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: does think of all we'll talk about Keen now in 509 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: his route running building or the tight ends or Tyrod Williams. 510 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: When Travis Bensman runs down the middle field, he'll pull 511 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guys with him as well. Because you 512 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: have to respect that speed. You have to you can 513 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: run what I call a dagger route. And the dagger 514 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: route is when you have number two run up the scene. 515 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean, just run as fast as he can. He 516 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: wants gonna pull the underneath defenders. It's gonna pull the 517 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: safety and then you run a square in a fifteen 518 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: yards behind it. Well, the square is gonna be wide open. Now, 519 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna be wide over because the safety can't jump it. 520 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: The safety jumps and the rivers is tossed the ball 521 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: down the field of bendroom for eighty yard touchdown. So 522 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: does a lot of different things for you, And really 523 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: from the secondary perspective, it's the first thing you're talking 524 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: about Wednesday morning. Get the game plan. They said, Okay, 525 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: we've got no old Benjamin is. When he's in the game, 526 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: we gotta know where he is because he's there for 527 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: a reason. He's there either clear us out or he's 528 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: a day or to create a big play, and we 529 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: have to be aware of that at all times. I 530 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: look at with Tampa did this offseason, Matt getting to 531 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: Shawn Jackson. You don't think that's gonna help Mike Evans, 532 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: you don't think that's gonna help break and O J. Howard. 533 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: You know it's that speed is going to change everything. 534 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: And I think people forget about Travis Benjamin in his 535 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: speed because he was dealing with some nagging injury last year. 536 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: And to get him and Keenan Allen on the same field, 537 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: I think it is going to be a lot of fun. 538 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: And actually I was looking at you. You have a 539 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: PPR mock draft on ESPN's NFL Fantasy page, and I 540 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: saw you had a couple of bolts on your squad. Yeah, 541 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, I think in the third round and you 542 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: got Hunter Henry late and going back to Henry Matt. 543 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm crazy for saying this, but 544 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I really do believe it. I think he has the 545 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: potential to be a top five tight end this year, 546 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: even with Gates on the field, because of that chemistry 547 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: with Rivers. He had eight touchdowns and I think on 548 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: fifty three targets last year, those targets are definitely going 549 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: to go up and we've talked about it, just those 550 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: other weapons with when you have Alan and Benjament on 551 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: the field, you're going to get some opportunities with Philip 552 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: Rivers as your quarterback, right because you have to play matchups. 553 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: You have to play matchups versus and what's the matchup 554 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: is a linebacker? Come on, man, if it's a linebacker, 555 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: that's where the ball is going, right, Yeah, okay, that's 556 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: where the balls going. So you got to put a 557 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: safety on it. And now you got the size of vantage. 558 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: You get the size of vantage. And look at what 559 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: they did, talk what they've Denver game last year. If 560 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: you look at the opening drive in that game, how 561 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: well scripted it was, how well scripted that offense was 562 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: in terms of creating space for Henry. And what they 563 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: did is then I think they came on three tight ants, 564 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: three tight end personnel, and they ran rub routs and 565 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: rub ross where he just create a lot of traffic. 566 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: So not only do you have to match up to 567 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: his size and athleticism and speed, Now I got to 568 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: get through a bunch of traffic to get to his hip, 569 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: to his up field shoulders. A lot of ants from 570 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: the defensive back. So there are ways, even with this 571 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: matchup that you can increase that through scheme in two 572 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: route scheme okay, And I think you're gonna see that 573 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: a lot this year. I think you'll see him removing 574 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: the formation board. And what I mean by that is, 575 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, we think of a tight of ending. He's 576 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: got to hand in the ground, you know, and he's 577 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: a right next to the tackle, and you'll see that 578 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: as well. But really flecting him now, whether it's in 579 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: the slot or whether especially the backside of three bode one. Okay, 580 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: we used to call us at Dakota formation. It means 581 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: it's three wide receiver personnel. So what you have is 582 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: you have three wide receivers to one side of the field, 583 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: tight end the back to the So the tight end 584 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: becomes that backside X receiver from a playbook perspective. So, now, 585 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: what do you do if you're a man covers who's 586 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: walking out there? Let's first thing, River's gonna look at 587 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: who's walking out there? What's a linebacker? Okay, here we go. 588 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Let's hurt a slam. All that's run a slam. I 589 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: have super high percented throw. He's gonna create separation because 590 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some contact there at the top of 591 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: the route. When you have an aggressive linebacker, aggressive tight end, 592 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: there's a decent contact there. Create separation inside. That's plus 593 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: ten yards right there, and I gotta tackle. Okay, Okay, 594 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: let's say they stay in the zone. It's a cornerback 595 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: out there. Well, there's a lot of different things. You run. 596 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: Run a big rock, which is a square in a 597 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: fifteen twelve fifteen yards, run the fade to the back, 598 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: show the ball put up top, let him use his 599 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: size to make the catch. So there's ways when you 600 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: do that to formation alignment and scheme to feed him 601 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: to football. And I agree with you, super high feeling. Yeah, 602 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: we're talking. You mentioned fantasy football. He's a tied end 603 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: one all day for me, and in perspective of watching 604 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: football and Sundays and defensive preparation, he's an issue. He's 605 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: an issue. Better have a matchup to stop. 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So go with a trusted source and 623 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: our official partner, and no, you're going to the game 624 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: bett From a fantasy football perspective, even outside the Chargers. 625 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Give me a couple of guys because listen, Chargers fans 626 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: have their fantasy drafts this weekend, and you know you 627 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: probably want to get some of your some of your 628 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: guys from your favorite team. But who are a few 629 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: sleepers in kind of mid rounds that you had your 630 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: eye on when you were doing your mind draft. Some sleepers. Um, well, 631 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: I think you start that's quarterback position, and I don't 632 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: think Jamis is a sleeper anymore. But going into camp 633 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: by Jameis Winston at the top and this is why 634 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: he's throwing for four thousand yards and his first two 635 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: seasons both times he's got to cut down the interceptions. 636 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: Everyone understands that. But you mentioned the addition of the 637 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Shan Jackson the draft O J. Howard. That offense, if 638 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: you go back to some of the preseason table and 639 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: especially how they run their offense, would be a lot 640 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: of play action, a lot of boot Get James at 641 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: the edge of the pocket, us the tight ends in 642 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: the middle field. Mike Evans. You wanted Mike Evans on film. 643 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean you talk about size and Natcheville building. That's 644 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: what it is. I'm hitting so tough on film. It 645 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: is so tough on the film and deep inside cuts, 646 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: the favor oute red zone opportunities. I think James can 647 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: be a QB. One another quarterback I talked about it 648 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: was Carson Wentz. Okay, this is why, because you can 649 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: get Carson wentz real late in your draft. He's not 650 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: gonna be considered a QB one to start the season. 651 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: But look what they add again, speed Tory Smith. Tory 652 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Smith didn't have as productive of seasons as we expected 653 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: going to in San Francisco, but now he's back in 654 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: the East Coast, and what they can do with him 655 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: deep balls over the top, clearing out space for all 656 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Sean Jeffrey, and Jeffrey is perfect. In the West Coast 657 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: office understand about true West Coast and obviously feeling any better. 658 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Coach Peterson is going to Span and I could be 659 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: West Coast every time, but he would look at Andy 660 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: Reid's offensive kandasa, which is the same offense I played 661 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: against in the early two thousands when he was in Philly. Again, 662 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: they've added stuff to it. There's more spread concepts, football 663 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: changes in the balls, and all these coaches keep up 664 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: with it. But at their core, where's the ball throwing 665 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: the West Coast office between the numbers and their hands, Okay, 666 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: that's the ball is supposed to be throwing. Well, you 667 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: gotta have matchups there, okay, And you get that with 668 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Jeffrey size frame, body control, ball skills at the point 669 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: of attack. I think West surprise some people. And running 670 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: back in Isaiah col from Cleveland. You know last year 671 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: I think he nine fifty two yards seven touchdowns. I 672 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: want to say at forty grabs in the passing game 673 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: as well. Now Duke Johnson's going to cut in some 674 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: of those receptions. They're really let Duke Johnson and what 675 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: he can do in that offense. I think you gonna 676 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: see Duke almost like a wide receiver at times. It's 677 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: another guy to get late, not super late, but later 678 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: in PPR drafts to Duke Johnson, Preveland and the like 679 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: Isaiah Corral as a solid running back too because of 680 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. He wants to run the football offense as well. Yeah, 681 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: and they're starting a rookie quarterback. Look, when you have 682 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, you have to protect. You have to 683 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: you have to put them in favorable or positive game situations. 684 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: And to do they you gotta running ball. You have 685 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: to win the run game. You don't want a rookie 686 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: quarterback a third and eleven plus. Trust you that that's 687 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: a bad situation. That's when the defense says, okay, we're 688 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: all get the ball here, Okay, we're gonna send Fresher 689 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: on trap covers a lot of different things we're gon 690 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: go after and making it extremely hard for him to 691 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: make the play. Do you want to get him third 692 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: and two to six? Two to six, got to run 693 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: a football, you get run the football. I think for all, 694 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: it's got an underrated skill set. And he's great in 695 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: their scheme. And look at huge scheme. It's a lot 696 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: of two bad run downhill power, pulled the backside dark, 697 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: tick out with the fullback, create a roadmap for the 698 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: running back. Okay, And he's gotten next to year to 699 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: his game too. If you don't see it all the time, 700 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: you go back early in the season. Last year they 701 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 1: played Baltimore. I think he had an eighty plus year, 702 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: had a touchdown run. He can move, He can move 703 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: when he goes to that extra year. So as Eric call, 704 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: you can running back. Also with the rooks, I really 705 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: liked Dalvin Cook. There's a lot of rookies. There are 706 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot of rookies. Yeah. I love this college tape 707 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: at Florida State. You go back christ and turned the 708 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: Florida State Clinston tape from last year. Okay, that's the 709 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: national champs. And tell me Dalvin Cook isn't pearl running, okay, 710 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: He's got the speed, violence ball outside, he plays a 711 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: good vision, he's got enough power in his shoulder pads 712 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: and won the ball in between the tackles. And it 713 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: was a great opportunity with Davis Murray was didn't practice 714 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: much this training camp to what happens. Well, Like I 715 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: said at the beginning, the film is always rolling right, 716 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: so it's an opportunity to someone else to take that job. 717 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: This Dalvin Cooke. Did you know he could catch the 718 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: ball in the backfield? Two? He's a true three down player. 719 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: He's a three down football player, and that's great. You 720 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: look for running back two, that's the player you want 721 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: to target. No. Obviously McCaffrey and I love McCaffrey film. 722 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: I love that Stanford and what he's really shown this year, 723 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: which I think is why his fantasy is really through 724 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: the rough right now. We had our Es Cam Staff 725 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: fantasy drafts the other night and it was a three 726 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver league PPR. McCaffrey went twenty overall. Twenty. That's 727 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: real high twenty overall, and I think if we're doing 728 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: this at the beginning of camp, he would have been 729 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: in the thirties, maybe in the forties. But everyone's seeing 730 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: what they've done with McCaffrey during the preseason. All right, 731 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: he's running the ball in power all and he's getting 732 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: inside the tap. She starts to think, well, hey, this 733 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: guy might eventually, throughout the course of the season take 734 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot of carry from Jonathan Stewart and be a 735 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: true three down player. Because we haven't even Chris moving 736 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: and seen the regular season game player, you know, and 737 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: Cam Newton hasn't played much this preseason. Now imagine healthy 738 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Cam Newton with Christian McCaffrey and Hi on the Cristal 739 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: running zone league. Well, well, are you gonna take away 740 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: you don't want Cam Karen ball? Right, Okay, So there's 741 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a laying there what we call out the band. 742 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: When the running back bends back through that lane, it's 743 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: gonna be open from the caffe the sticks flitting the 744 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: ground and go plus. So they could do with him 745 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: in the passing game again. Preseason. Taton Effort tells the 746 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: entire story from a game planning perspective. He's wait till 747 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: he's a lineball slot. It's wait till the throwing in 748 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: bubble screens just wait the surface yet. No, no, and 749 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: again we go back to Max ups. You're not putting 750 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: a linebacker, you better not. I'm throwing the ball him 751 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: every time. Okay, so yeah, tough knacks up. And then oh, also, 752 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers look at the polaces and Calvin Benjamin is 753 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: head excellent preseason. He looks like the player before the 754 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: knee injury. So I think Calvin Benjaman has much higher 755 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: value in standard scoring leagues or PPR leagues. I just 756 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: went through yesterday. I'm from ranking standard scoring this year 757 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: for ESPN Weekly Rankings, and I started bumping Calvin Benjamin 758 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: up because he's gonna catch chessdowns. He's still gonna be 759 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: that deep inside target for Cam Newton in the red zone. Again, 760 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: if we're talking standards score Davante Parker for Miami. Hey, 761 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: Jay seems to have a liking for mister Parker. Yeah, yeah, 762 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: you can Chris getting glimpse of what's going on there 763 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: and Jason playing a ton, But that's a perfect offense 764 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: for Jake Cultman. I run a piece about that for 765 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: ESPN when Jay signed with Miami. Because of Adam Gays. 766 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: You go back to the twenty fifteen film here, in Chicago, 767 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: and Jay didn't throw forty fifty touchdowns, but I see it, dude, 768 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: tony one touchdowns, said twelve picks, but very efficient for 769 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: Jay Keller, very efficient, a lot of rpls with a 770 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: run pass option and Adam Gaze's offense that cares to 771 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: Jay's mobility and movement skills. But what he loves, Chris, 772 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: is that fifty fifty throw. When I mean fifty fifty 773 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: throw now wide receivers covered. The ball is still coming 774 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: here in Chicago was Jeffrey and Miami is gonna be Parker. 775 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: There's gonna be deep scots, a lot of inside cuts, 776 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: those deep comebacks, that's where the ball is going. I 777 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: think it's gonna hurt Jarvis Lander's value a little bit, 778 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: and fantasy owers have to understand that it's gonna hurt 779 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: his value a little bit, but it's gonna increase the 780 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: guy a value of Parker, and especially in standard scoring leagues, 781 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: this is the type of guy. He's not gonna get 782 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: to twelve catches the game. That's not that's not what 783 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: he does. But he might catch you three or four 784 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: balls for ninety five yards and two scores. That's the 785 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: guy you're getting yeah, exactly exactly, and you can get him. 786 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: He's like your your wide receiver three, you know, put 787 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: him in the flex to your point in a standard 788 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: league and you're sitting pretty yeah. I think Adam Deelan 789 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: is another guy from Minnesota. You know, Lakwon Credill has 790 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: not developed as fast as people expected, so he's really 791 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: the third wide receiver still in Minnesota. And again this 792 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: is PPR over standard because everyone's seeing Sam Branford, I 793 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: mean his yards third tempt and they're like quick passing 794 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: there their West coast get the ball out Colonel flat slant, 795 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: flat inside option Ross. I don't want to get the 796 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: ball out of his hands, and part of that is 797 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: due with their offensive line issues. The last couple of season. 798 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: They've a little bit. They had a new tackles that 799 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: better than last year, but they still want to get 800 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: the ball out hot. And so if you're looking for 801 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: a PPR target, a Sleepers, possibly a wide receiver too, 802 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: maybe you're starting flex. I'd say Adam Feeling. Another guy 803 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: is Pierre Garson. I mean, if people always sleep on 804 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: Garson because they always sleep on him, I mean, Garson 805 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: is one of the toughest players in the NFL. That's 806 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: what he is. Just watch the film. I think he 807 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: could play strong Saints to something in my mind, could 808 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: play strong. Say I put him in the box. I'd 809 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: have no problem putting in the box saying, hey, the 810 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: tiler end blocks down, will make the taffa wouldn't have 811 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: any problems that are or playing dust Radley scheme. They 812 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: dropped to the drops the curl and dropping the troll. 813 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: I'd be scared to see pure Garson in the box 814 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: man right right, But that's what he that his toughness 815 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: and Chris what that translates to in coach Shanahan's offense 816 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: in San Francisco insidecut, He's not afraid to catch the 817 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: ball and get hit. He's not. He's a bounce up. 818 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: He's going next play. He can be a PPR machine, 819 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: a machine. You're talking ten twelve targets the game and 820 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: solid wide receiver too. People are solid wide receiver too. 821 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: We're there and I haven't even discussed you know, Kareem 822 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: hunt and only the mock drafts I was. I was 823 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: scooping up Kareem book late, you know, not late but later. 824 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: Now man, he's yeah, his values to the roof after 825 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: the spencer wear injury and really Kareem Hunt when you 826 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: watch his film Good Fit. He's got a great body, 827 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: can come. He's got power in his pads. He's got 828 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: enough speed. And again at the running back position, I 829 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: could care less what your forty times is. I don't 830 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: really care. You can't get through the hole, That's what 831 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: I want to see. Can you get through the hole? 832 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: You get that that that extra berth to get to 833 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: the hole. He's got that. He's got some lateral ability 834 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: to shake the fenders over the field. Then he finish 835 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: his runs. Plus he hit over forty catchers last year 836 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: in Flito. He's gonna catch for Andy Reid's running backs. 837 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: They catch football. It's West Coast, that's what they do. 838 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: Really good player to get. And again a rookie, and 839 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: I understand there's always concerned about rookies, especially a wide receiver, 840 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: drafting the running backs. That's the most natural transition to 841 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: the pro level because the game isn't changed very much. 842 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: It's still about vision, it's still about balance, making defender's 843 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: mess or running through and finishing runs. You still have 844 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: to do that. So I have no problem drafting rookie 845 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: running backs. No, I don't either. You talk about Kareem Hunt. 846 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: I think I got him in like the eleventh, twelfth 847 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: round and a draft, you know, two weeks ago. Now 848 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: he's a third round pick and he actually maybe when 849 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, the top rookie running back, 850 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: which is which is crazy because we talk about Fournette, 851 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: we talk about Cook, we talked about McCaffrey, we talked 852 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: about mixing, and I think people forgot about Hunt, maybe 853 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: just because Spencer Ware was there, and Spencer Ware was 854 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: the lead back last year. But all of a sudden, 855 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: you blink, this guy is going to have a huge 856 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: role in an offense. To your point, in an Andy 857 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 1: Reid offense, He's there's gonna be a lot of productivity 858 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: at a Kareem Hunt in twenty seventeen. Matt, I want 859 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: to get you out of here. On this AFC West, 860 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: it's probably the toughest division in football. I would put 861 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: it as the toughest division in football. Maybe you could 862 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: argue the NFC Store, NFC South, but for my money, 863 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: it's the AFC West. Where do you see the LA 864 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: Chargers in this mix for the AFC West Crown Well, 865 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: I think he said right together they're in the mix. 866 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: I think there's no question they arent can compete in 867 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: that division. I think there's no question that. Ye look, Chris, 868 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: I've been on teams that have won division titles in 869 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: the NFL. Before you need to luck, you do. You 870 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: got to stay healthy throughout the course of the season. 871 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: I know they've had some injuries to young guys. You know, 872 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: that's football. What do you can do? I mean sitting 873 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: warning about or not you sent the next guy into 874 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: play that. That's football. But you gotta have some lucky 875 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: breaks throughout the season. But there's no question they can 876 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 1: compete in that division. There's no question. There's no question 877 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: they can win that division. Okay, they can and it's 878 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: just be honest. They can't win that division. Not sitting 879 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: in the corning So I'm not making predictions here, but 880 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: they can't win that division. And I want I think, Chris, 881 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: if I can go back and play right now, that's 882 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: a division do I want to be in? You want 883 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: that as a football player. You want those physical, intense games. 884 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: That's what you want. You want to challenge yourself. You 885 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: want every game to mean something. And that's the great 886 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: part about playing in the nexcellent division is those division 887 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: wins that's most more important than anything. They are. They 888 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: are and you're not gonna be able to go into 889 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: a game against Denver, Kansas City or Oakland and say, well, 890 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: you know this is our gaming. No, no, you're not 891 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna know. You don't have to battle in those games. 892 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: Those games are gonna be physical, they're gonna be intense, 893 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: and they'll because it's gonna be hard to get out 894 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: of those games. It is. It's gonna be hard to 895 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: get out those games and get ws. We want to 896 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: look at the landscape of the division. The four teams, shure, shure, 897 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: they're in the mix. There's no question they're in the mix. 898 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: And if Philip Rivers's healthy, they got they gotta shot. 899 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: You gotta protect your quarterback. You gotta protect your quarterback, 900 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: especially that that division. You have to protect your quarterback 901 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: and every team. The great thing about the division is 902 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: I think they're all very similar. Okay, what I mean 903 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: by that is they all have quarterbacks that can run 904 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: their system, put points in the board all right based 905 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: on their system. And they all have edge rushers. Okay, 906 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing. They can all get home to the quarterback. 907 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: Every team in that division can get home to the quarterback. 908 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: So again, if you can protect your cornerback through the 909 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: course of sixteen weeks, that's your best opportunity to survive 910 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: that division. I can't wait. Mad's we got we got 911 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: one more week in the NFL's officially here. What are 912 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: you working on right now with ESPN? You told me 913 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: that you have a piece coming out today. We're taking 914 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: us on a Thursday, so it should be up by 915 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: the time folks get to it on Friday morning. Right. 916 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: I did thirty two plays for thirty two teams. Every 917 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: every team in the league gets a play. And what 918 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: I did is I went back to the tape of 919 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: Summer and I didn't want to find the players are 920 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: at the top of the call sheet. Everyone knows that, Okay. 921 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: For example, I don't want to I don't want to 922 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: see uh in an option route to Keenan Allen. You 923 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: know I know that's coming, okay, or deep dig route 924 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: Colonel Our levels, concepts of the Titan, I know those 925 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: are coming. I want to see stuff that pops in 926 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: the film and say, you know what, a coach, you 927 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: need to run this lit bit more because I looked 928 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: at it from a defensive perspective, what would give me 929 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: an issue? That will give me an issue for the Chargers. 930 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: I have a max protection play action where you clear 931 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: out space with Benjamin and Keenan Allen run the deep 932 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: seven cut man. It's nasty. Nasty is a defensive defensive 933 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: player because if you know your corner's gonna give removed, 934 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: you know your safety is gonna get removed, and now 935 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: you're chasing an inside out versus one of the top 936 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: route runners in the NFL. And the best part, going 937 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: back to what we said about edgedressors, Livers has time. 938 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: He's got time. He's got time because of the boxing 939 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: scheme up front and the pass protection. To look down 940 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: around the league, a lot of rtos run pass opens. 941 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: I think those are the future of football. I think 942 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: if you're not running me behind and run pass options 943 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: get from than the high school level, eye coach or 944 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: college level. It doesn't mean the quarterbacks pulling the ball 945 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: and running to thirty yards. That's a fairy tale. In 946 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, it doesn't happen. Okay. What you want to 947 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: see is either run player or pass play built together 948 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: within one call. You've seen a lot of that in 949 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. What that does. It gives a quarterback opportunity 950 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: to count the numbers in the box behind the match 951 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: up read whether it's the linebacker safety walk down. That 952 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: gives enough to turn the handleball off or to throw 953 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: a quick game, or to throw a bubble or to 954 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: throw a tunnel screen outside. If the offense reads it, 955 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: they are always right. They're so tough to defend. But again, 956 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: because I looked at some things that some fans, I said, well, 957 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: that's not very cool. I guess you know, with the 958 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: front lines they start an inside trap with the riddit 959 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: trap player. Fancy football players are not talking about trap 960 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: players in Sundays and they're watching games. They're not. But 961 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: a well executed trap is one of the most beautiful 962 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: things football. It is. It is because it clears a 963 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: running then like you wouldn't believe and allows offensive guards 964 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: and tackles to create angles in the box. So I 965 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: kind of flipped around a little bit and found things 966 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: that if I was a coach of that football team, 967 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: this is what I would run more. That's awesome. I 968 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: can't wait to check it out. And I suggest everybody 969 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: check out Matt Bowen's work, not not just the exs 970 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: and ozs. He's in the Fantasy game over at ESPN 971 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: and he does a great job of just player breakdowns 972 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: and anything you need to know. Like I said, he's 973 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people in this business just to 974 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: hear talk about football. You'd follow him on Twitter at 975 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: Matt Bowing forty one and Matt hopefully we get to 976 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: talk to you during the season. I can't thank you 977 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: enough for your time more than generous today, man, I 978 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. All right, no problem, we'll talk to you. 979 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks to Matt for joining me, and thanks 980 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: to you guys for listening. Be sure to subscribe to 981 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: the Official LA Chargers podcast on iTunes and Google Play, 982 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: and if you could, please leave a review. A big 983 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: podcast next week before the Chargers take on the Broncos 984 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, so be on the lookout for 985 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: that and until next time, we'll see you soon.