1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Expedia it posted better than expected second quarter results. However, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: the company did warn of like a softening in travel 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: demand and the current quarter, and therefore it adjusted its 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: expectations for the rest of the Year's dig into the details, 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: expedia CEO is with us Arianne Goren and arian you 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: managed to get the nuance because shares absolutely popped on 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: the fact that you'd managed to do what you needed 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: to do and delivered for the quarter that we were 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: posting on, but then New downgraded for a second time. 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: What is the consumer telling you right now? 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 3: Well, first, thank you for having me. We were very 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: happy with our second quarter results. We saw an acceleration 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: in our consumer business, which is what we were looking for, 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: and then continued strength in our B to B segment 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: and in advertising. But it's true as we look at 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: the third quarter, we have seen some softness. 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: It's been a few quarters. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: In a row that air ticket prices have been coming down, 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: that the pre car rental days have been coming down, 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: and we just started seeing a bit of that also 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: in the third quarter. 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: So we're keeping an eye on it. 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: And good morning. It's ed in San Francisco, away from 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: the United States, It's been an incredible summer in Europe, 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 4: the Euros football or soccer tournament, the Olympics. Why is 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: that sort of event driven process not more of a 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: confidence giver for you in your outlook? 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, first of all, I would say events driven 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: travel is a true trend, whether it's sports, whether it's concerts. 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: You know, with Taylor Swifts concert tour the last year, 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: you see that that really drives travel into destinations. So 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: that certainly plays into our optimism. 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: But again, you know, when we. 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: Look at our forecast, we're looking at what's happening on pricing, 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: what's happening in demand, and again in the long term, 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: people certainly want to travel, which is what makes us 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: sort of optimistic in the long term. 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: Arian, what's the technology story for you? If you're going 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: to drive that outlook a little higher than you've already given, 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: is there a way you can more closely match what 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: people are searching for maybe the budget conscious consumer as well, 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: if the consumer is in real time pulling back. 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the great news is that because of 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: the work that we've done on our platform in the 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: last few years, in particular around having a customer identity 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: across all of our brands. We have a better understanding 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: of the traveler across all of our brands, looking at 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: what are they searching for, what are they interested in, 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: which allows us to make more personalized recommendations that are 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: more relevant for each traveler. 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the brands and brand loyalty. Before we 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: do that, we just want to a minor audience of 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: TV and radio. We have sat down with the Expedia CEO, 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: Arianne Goren, and what's really interesting is you have this 56 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: rollout of sort of a brand loyalty program one Key 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: beyond the US and UK, but you're slowing it slightly 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: and there was an impact perhaps to Hotels dot Com 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: users in the loyalty programs they had. Can you tell 60 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: us about what the ultimate goal is there and why 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: you've slowed it a little bit? 62 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Sure? 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 3: So, we actually just came up on the one year 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: anniversary of our one Key loyalty program. We launched it 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: last summer in the US and it's a program that 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: ties together Expedia, Hotels dot Com, and Verbo, which are 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: our three biggest brands. It allows travelers to earn and 68 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: burn one key cash across all of the brands and 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: also benefit from higher discounts, especially in hotels. 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: Sort of the more loyal they are. 71 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: We've been pleased with the results in the US and 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: we've just launched in the UK, But as we step 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: back and looked at other countries, what we realized is 74 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: this is a program that works the best when we 75 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: have all three of our big brands operating at scale, 76 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: and in many countries outside of the US and. 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: UK, we have one leading brand. 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: So what we're doing now is we're looking at how 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: do we make sure that we have the strongest loyalty 80 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: value proposition in each country for the brands that are there. 81 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: And the good news is, even before making any changes, 82 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: all of the loyalty members outside of the US and 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: UK are already benefiting from the higher member discounts. 84 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: You are relatively new in this seat May twenty twenty 85 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: four as CEO, you were on the board a bit 86 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: before that, but arian you came from the B to 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: B offering advertising offering, which you've just articulated. 88 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: Is going really well. 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: How therefore, can you bring your learnings from that to 90 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: the consumer? How you focused on driving better margins growth 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: from a consumer that, as you say at the moment 92 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: is nervous. 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: So I would start by saying, our consumer business has 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: three very strong and well loved brands in Expedia, Hotels, 95 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: dot Com and Verbo, and they all have great value propositions. 96 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: My experience, and I think anybody's experience in business, is 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: always that you want to make sure you understand what 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: is your customer need and then how do you have 99 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: a value proposition that matches it. And so what I'm 100 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: focused on with the team is making sure that from 101 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: our technology, to our supply to the way we market, 102 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: each of our brands is very strong in addressing a 103 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: particular customer need. 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 4: Mary Anne, what's the one single biggest headwind or risk 105 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: to you and to a consumer's choice to travel for 106 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: the remainder of this year. 107 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: Look, I would go back to what I talked about earlier, 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: which is, you know, prices coming down somewhat. You could 109 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: say that's sort of a headwind in the sense that 110 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: you know, as you report earnings, obviously prices have an impact. 111 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: But I like to see the glass half full rather 112 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: than half empty. And when you consider it that way, 113 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 3: you think we'll travels may be becoming more affordable. 114 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: It's great to have some time with you. Arianne Goran 115 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: exped at a CEO here in New York. 116 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: We thank you, thank you for having me