WEBVTT - Episode 440: Ty Dane Gonzalez + Colby Patnode (Locked On Mariners Podcast) 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.800 Hey, guys, just wanted to give you a heads up 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.520 that this Tuesday we'll be doing a live podcast taping 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.080 over with our friends at queen An Beer Hall in 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.200 partnership with Corona. So if you want to come out 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.840 talk some Mariners with us, watch this upcoming Wednesday's podcast 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.319 episode tape live on site. Well, you can do so 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.600 right along with us over at queen Am Beer Hall 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.799 in Seattle. 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You can find our episodes, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.600 you can find our podcast merch, you can find our Patreon. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.479 That's all at marineliyerpod dot com. Then check out our 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.959 social media. We're everywhere posting content every day at Marine 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:27.520 Layer Pod. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:43.960 Let's get it rolling and you go feach. This episode 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.560 of the Marine Layer Podcast, part of the Just Baseball 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:51.360 podcast network, recording here on Thursday evening, August sixth I'll 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:56.600 say it again, the Mariners have reached a new flow. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.400 And what's funny is they have a chance to dig 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.920 themselves than the new low. I said this just the 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.080 other day. I said it. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:06.840 I think talking to Tyan Kolby. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.079 Which we'll get to, this is the easiest series on 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.760 their schedule for the month of August. This one the 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.960 Detroit Tigers may be the easiest remaining series on their 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.520 schedule in the month of August, and against the team 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.760 that's sold at the deadline and is three games under 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.320 five hundred. The Mariners managed to get outscored nineteen to 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.280 nothing in their two losses and zero combined extra base hits. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.840 Yep, is that bad? 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.639 I mean, it's horrific. The old they used to say 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.359 on Sports Center all the time, is that bad, it's 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:39.040 not good? 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.320 Well, this is just straight up horrific. 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:46.640 No extra base hits, getting outscored nineteen to nothing against 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.360 again against a team that, like, you know, they were 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.359 supposed to face Trek Scoobel in this series. That's why 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.760 they won the game on Wednesday, because instead of Scooball, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.560 the Tigers had to piece themselves together a bullpen game, 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.560 and the Mariners found a way to gratch a couple 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.760 runs late on a big three run bomb from Julio 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.040 and a little insurance from Colt Emerson which was a 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.400 really nice wing left on left. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.600 But dude, if they've. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.040 Based Schooble in this series, it's a sweep. Like they 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.160 ain't scoring off Schooble. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.160 Remember when I said on Wednesday's episode, like the deadline 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.680 is supposed to like inject some life into your team. Like, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.280 all right, guys, here we go. We got some new players. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.639 It's time to play our best baseball. Well, I wouldn't 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.880 call what we watched in the three games this week 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.720 anywhere near the best baseball the Mariners could possibly play. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.160 In fact, it might have been the worst they've played. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.000 And we just keep saying it over and over again. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.960 This is the worst. This is rock bottom. It can't 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.520 get any it can't possibly get any worse than this. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.760 And then you have your two new additions. Taylor Ward 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.800 goes two for ten. Sir Anthony Devengez pitches a third 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.120 of an inning the entire series, gives up two home 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.040 runs four total runs, doesn't even finish his own inning. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.680 The Mariners could outscored twenty one to four to a 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.400 seller in Major League Baseball, and it. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:04.840 Just looks awful. It looks just even worse. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.640 Every single time this happens, it looks even worse than 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:12.080 the previous time. Like this day game here on Wednesday 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:13.680 looked worse than Monday's game. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.599 Yeah, oh yeah, by the way, you know why it 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:23.040 look worse because there was just more sloppy, unsound, non 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.279 fundamental baseball. You just mentioned the two for ten series 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.440 from Taylor Ward. You didn't even mention the worst moment. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:33.040 Oh my god, that throw he made in right field, 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.400 and you can't shock that up to Taylor Ward doesn't 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.400 play right field. He's just adjusting. It's not like he 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.760 misplayed a ball in the corner. He's unfamiliar with the angles. No, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.600 I mean taylor Ward ran up on a ball like 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.400 towards the foul line, scooped it up, and then like 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:55.400 Lalie to throw over the cutoff man into no man's land. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:57.960 Owing another run to score. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.280 I'm watching the replay of that and it just like 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.839 he just like totally olays it over the head of 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.320 of I think it was Cole Young getting the cutoff, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.760 you know, Like I just started laughing. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:12.719 I just started laughing. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:19.119 I'm like, it just keeps getting worse, dude, I don't 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.479 And then you tack on the Julio play and center 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.120 to which I know he lost it in the sun 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.600 And sometimes you can't control that. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.280 But when things are going. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.400 As bad as they're going for the team as a whole, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:34.279 it's just another bad blunder on like the Mariners defense 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:35.480 and fundamental baseball. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.200 Again. I know it's not really Julio's fault. I know, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:39.039 when you lose. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.320 A ball in the sun, there's not a ton you 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.359 can do, but like the optics of it and the 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.120 you know, like the situation presented right there just kind 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.400 of added insult to injury. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:50.119 Hmm. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.240 And we haven't even talked about Wednesday yet. While the 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.719 game they won, yeah, they won great. They hit a 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.720 couple of home runs, Julio had a huge swing in 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.599 that game. But there's a moment in that game where 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.400 you feel like that, like that might be the spark, 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.479 that might be it. At the end of the game, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.440 guys are getting thrown at. Cal Rawley gets beaned, gab 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.080 Spier gets ejected for throwing at Labor Torres. The bench 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.480 is empty, people are yapping at each other, everyone's all 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.440 fired up, and you would think like, okay, there's that, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.160 And then the Mariners won the game and Cole Emerson 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.120 comes back the next inning and hits a home around 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.680 and you're like, wow, I mean these guys, I hope 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.200 they're just like fired up, like just ready to go. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.360 After that and then today happened. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.159 I'm sorry, were you buying into that? 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:37.200 Like? 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:37.919 Did you buy in? 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.200 And they didn't have anything else? Again, showing up normally 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.279 and playing the games has not worked, okay, but I 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.800 don't care. Like I've said for weeks now, there is 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.480 no moment. There is no singular game that's like, oh, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:50.640 this is the turnaround. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:51.160 Here we go. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.799 No, when the Seattle Mariners are five games over five hundred, 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.960 talk to me then, and then we can rewind and 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.599 refresh and go back to a moment we want to 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.200 point to as the turnaround until they actually get five 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.720 games over five hundred. I'm not doing this whole thing. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.840 I'm not doing this. Oh this is the moment that 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.920 turns around the season. No, go actually turn around your season, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.080 and then we can rewind and say what was the moment. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.880 Let me clarify what I said. I was not saying 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.920 that was the turning point of the season. But of 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.600 everything they've tried, trade deadline, firing, the heading coach, getting 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.480 guys back healthy, like, all of those things didn't work. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.080 What happened in twenty twenty two, A lot of people 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.240 credited that scuffle with the Angels let a fire in 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.040 that clubhouse, and that team just ripped off the rest 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.120 of the season and ended up making the playoffs and 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.560 breaking the drought. A fight was literally the last thing 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.080 on the list this year. That's the one thing they 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.360 haven't done. They haven't tried. They haven't gotten everyone to 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.760 like rally together and get behind each other to play. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.600 And you would think, right, especially with one game left 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.560 to go in the series, where that fight happens, and 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.120 it's like, you're just so ready for the next day 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.160 to go out there and to beat that team and 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.480 to show them up, like to show up, to show 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.040 up Dylan Dingler and Glabor Torres and the pitchers who 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.160 beamed you and get revenge or Spire getting suspended and 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.480 your manager getting suspended here on Thursday and be like, oh, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:21.960 we're gonna go show them. No, quite the opposite, if 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.200 that was their goal here on Thursday, they got an. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.880 F Also, it wasn't really a fight. The Angels game 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.120 was a fight in twenty twenty two. This was two 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.959 teams standing around at home plate. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.040 But it's two teams that clearly weren't very happy with 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.840 each other. And again, I'm just trying, I'm trying to 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:43.000 find something to get this team to play consistently like 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.640 something like this, just like little motivational voice in your 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.920 head to kick in the gear and to find that 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.880 consistency day in and day out. And it just did 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.320 not happen here on Thursday. Out of all the things 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.280 we've tried this season, the literally the last, like last 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.600 on the list is getting the team together to rally 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.280 behind each other because something happened on the field and 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.120 then going out and playing better because of it. And 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.200 that didn't even happen. So if it's not gonna happen 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.720 for that while, I'm getting to the point where it's 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.560 just it's just not going to happen. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:16.440 Well. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.679 And again, this was the easiest series left on your 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:27.200 August schedule because now you got Rays, Yankees, Brewers, Astros, Cubs, Phillies, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:28.679 Blue Jay's. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:28.960 Red Sox. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.240 I guess if you want to argue in Toronto's are 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.440 easier than the Tiger series, you can. But it's it's 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.920 splitting hairs. It's not by much. It think this is 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.480 what's in front of them. This is what's in front 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.400 of them. By the way, to just wrap up the 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.959 whole Wednesday game with the scuffle at home plate or 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:50.120 the meeting between two teams at home Plate. I'm sorry, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:57.080 Like it is so just fake and phony and non believable. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.880 When Dan Wilson goes out there and gets himself a 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:05.160 like some people are who they are, Like, dude, that's 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.680 not who he is. He like he doesn't get out 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.920 there and channel is loop penella and get pissed. Like 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.040 when he goes out there and does that, it's like 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.800 it feels so forced and just fake, Like did you 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.000 actually believe he was mad in that moment? I almost 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.320 feel like he has to be out there because he 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:20.920 had to be mad to try to stand up for 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:21.400 his player. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.080 But in that moment, like you have to. But that's 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.640 what Dan Wilson really has a choice. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:30.160 That's what I mean. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:39.000 He is like he's using saturated like non authentic energy. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:40.920 It's like it's not real, Like it's just it's just 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.760 kind of phony. He doesn't actually like like some managers 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.960 really are fired up. When Scott used to get thrown 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.400 out of games, he'd be actually mad. I just like 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.240 it just doesn't sit well, Like it's just not who 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:52.559 he is. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.840 But in that situation, like the manager, like first of all, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.800 he's already kicked out but like you couldn't I think 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:05.120 in that situation, Like, yeah, is it performative maybe, like 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.679 it might be. I honest, like I don't know if 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.840 I would go that far, but like your picture gets 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.480 thrown out of the game in the game you're leading, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.240 especially a leverage arm, when the next leverage arm you 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.400 put in the game has been really struggling and gives 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.920 up a two run home run right after that, Like, yeah, 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.400 it's like pretty important. So you do need to go 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.920 out there and like fight for your player and kick 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.400 some bases and get thrown out sometimes, like that's part 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:28.800 of the job. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.600 But he doesn't do that, That's what I'm saying, Like 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.840 it's just he doesn't do that, like it like it's 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.720 not like it doesn't match his persona. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.600 At all, Like you know he but but but can 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.600 I can I interject here you would be roasting him 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.440 more if he sat in the dugout and did nothing. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:47.559 Again, I'm not. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.400 Saying you can't get out there and have a conversation 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.320 with the umpires, Like I'm not saying you can't be 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.400 Like I'm not saying you should be happy, But this 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.640 thing of it, like the getting thrown out of the game, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.440 it's just like do you, like, do you buy that's 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.560 who he is. I'm not saying, sit the dugout and 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.839 do nothing, but like elevating to the point where you 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.679 get thrown out and you know, you like removed his 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.520 hat and it's getting like I just don't believe it, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.360 Like I don't believe him. You can go out there, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.320 and you can go out there and say something. I'm 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.120 not saying that, Yeah, you should just sit there and 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.760 do nothing, but like again, some people just are who 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:21.120 they are. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.480 That's not really his persona. 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.000 He noticed how Gabe didn't have a single. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.400 Didn't argue a single thing. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.000 He just walked right off the mound. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.160 Yeah, that that may look we love Gabe, but that 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.120 seemed the signal to me that maybe that had some intention. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.760 I think so, given did it twice, Yeah, on back 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:45.000 to back pitches. Right, Gate was doing a job, right him. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.319 I'm sure him and Cal had a nice conversation before 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.600 that happening started and laid out their. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.200 Game plan, right yeah, probably. 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.360 And then the mayor and then like there's this lineup 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.959 on Thursday, Lyle like, did were the Mariners protecting their 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.280 star players from getting hit? 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.400 I mean maybe they were protecting Josh Naylor from getting 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.800 hit because you said that this involved two teams that 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.079 clearly weren't happy with each other. And if you want 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.199 to know where that stems back to, I don't think 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:12.839 it has anything to I don't think it has anything 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.000 to do with the playoff series from last year, not 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.280 that I know of. I think it has everything to 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.400 do with Josh Naylor because back when he was in Detroit, 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.680 you know, he like there was the argument about whether 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.600 he threw the sliding mit or if it just came 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.840 off or not, and he had a couple other plays 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.840 in that series that didn't sit all that well with 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:33.120 the Pirate or with the Tigers, and then the home 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.240 plate altercation happens a little bit between the two teams, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.520 or at least the meeting. If there was one guy 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.480 that was going to be targeted in retaliation to Glaber 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.640 getting hit here on Thursday, it would have been Josh 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.160 Naylor if he was in the lineup. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.240 And you don't want him getting drilled on his wrist right, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.360 not in his current state. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.199 But like again, we're at the point of the season 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.400 where you are protecting your players from getting hit on 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:00.280 a potential bean ball and another fight breaking out. That's 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.120 where we're at, Like it's not about winning games, it's 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.800 about like it's about like, well, we better make sure 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.079 that our guys don't get hurt. So let's like essentially 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.920 throw out a B lineup in a rubber match. 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.840 I'm gonna be honest, it didn't matter who the Mariners 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.760 were putting in this lineup. Maybe they wouldn't have gotten 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:21.160 shut out, it didn't matter. Well, no, this is the 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.160 The Mariners have rolled out their A lineup for most 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.240 of the season and are next I think still next 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.320 to last and baseball and run scored. Yeah, that's that's 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:28.960 just who they are. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.760 Yeah, I mean it's it's just been bad man and 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.760 again the season like time's running out. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.760 They don't have much time left to go. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.840 As we sit here, the Mariners are fifty six and 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.880 sixty so that's yeah, they've played. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.760 One hundred fast in the standings. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.400 Oh the Tigers, Yeah, the Tigers, yep, yep, yep. So yeah, 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.600 the Mariners have played one hundred and sixteen games this year. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:59.560 Like you essentially have to go what thirty five and 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.440 ten if I have my math, probably not right to 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.920 get to the ninety wins. I mean one sixty two 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:10.520 minus one sixteen's forty six, forty six games, and they 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.400 have to win thirty four games to get to ninety wins. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.160 So if you want to get to ninety wins, you 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.560 gotta go thirty four and twelve the rest of the way. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.720 That's the number. M Yeah, like with this August schedule, 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:23.160 no chance. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.240 Yeah, with this, with this August schedule, in this lineup, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.360 which would have to undergo like the biggest one pint 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:35.520 eighty we've ever seen as Mariners fans to achieve that, right. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:40.200 Pitching staff Aside pitching staff, Homan Road has its own issues, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.880 like Bryce Miller. Bryce Miller's last five starts have been bad, Like, yeah, 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.720 really bad. I remember we're talking about the potential six 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.280 man rotation with Kate Anderson. Maybe Kate Anderson just starts 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.640 for Bryce Miller or they they piggyback together to sort 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.200 of get Bryce into shorter spurts or put Bryce in 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.960 the bullpen even if something is really up with it. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.600 Yeah, I know, it's been a really tough second half 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:05.040 for Bryce. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:05.720 It's too bad. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.680 And then if the Mariners want to get to eighty 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.040 five wins, which is ridiculous, we're talking about this team 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.080 having eighty five wins given where the preseason expectations were, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.280 but they've got to go twenty nine and seventeen the 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.000 rest of the way now to do that, that's eight 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.800 over five hundred ball the final forty six games of 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.000 the year. And let me say it again, with this 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.600 August schedule, I mean, you've got the Rays for three 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.960 and then this upcoming just death trap of a road trip. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.080 Who's to say in those ten games that or thirteen 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.120 games I guess it would be, or twelve Ye had 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.120 twelve three three three, Okay, yeah, in those twelve games, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.840 they're not two and ten, three and nine. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:47.800 Ye. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.440 I don't want it to be that way again, I really, guys. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.600 I just wish more than anything we could sit here 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.080 and get you all fired up about the Mariners and 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.920 say why this team is on a crash course for 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.240 the postseason and his full steam ahead and it's firing 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.280 on all cylinders. That's when we're having the most fun 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.320 doing this podcast is when they're winning and we can 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.320 just fire everybody up and get people excited. But we're 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.080 not gonna gaslight people. We're not gonna just tell people 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.560 some false reality. No, We're gonna sit here and tell 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.919 you how we really feel and what the reality is. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.840 I'd like to think most of you guys know that 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.920 are listening to these podcasts at this point, that that's 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.000 what we do. And I'm not gonna sit here and 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.119 tell you that. Yeah, they'll just write this ship and 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.800 turn everything around with the schedule they got in August, like, no, things. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:31.840 Are looking real bleak. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.840 That's just reality, And that's not the conversation I want 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.159 to sit here and have. Believe me, it's not, but 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:38.040 it's the real one. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.320 I liked what you said in your reaction. We want 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.760 to believe, but you need to give us a reason 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.240 to believe. And that's where we're at. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.679 Yeah, And until you get like five games over five hundred, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.159 which is a sustained stretch of good baseball here for 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.359 a couple of weeks, then you have not given us 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:55.879 that reason. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:56.560 Right. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:58.879 If you guys want to talk about some of this 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.960 stuff with us, we have planned out our final two 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.040 events up here in Seattle for the conclusion of this 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.119 twenty twenty sixth season and our next one a podcast 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.520 taping at queen An Beer Hall with our friends at 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.119 Corona and the Hall is coming up Tuesday. What is 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.440 that Tuesday? The eleventh post game for the game against 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.200 the Yankees. So it'll be what seven ish seven point 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.199 thirty maybe probably right around seven o'clock that will be 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.119 taping the podcast. Want to invite you guys out to 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.200 come watch us tape, watch us record the Wednesday podcast. 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.080 We'll have giveaways you can chout down on some hall 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.280 beer and food as well. It should be a really 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.080 fun time if that sounds like something you want to 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.160 do on a Tuesday night, So just come on out 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.880 Queen Ane Beer Hall. Right around seven o'clock we will 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.199 be taping the podcast on site. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.600 Yeah, we might get there a little before just to 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.679 watch some of the game. But yeah, we'll probably. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.640 Seven o'clock for the taping, like when we'll be trying 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:51.760 to record by it right. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.480 But we might get there a little early just to 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.840 see some of the game and watch a little bit. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.240 But yes, taping if you want to plan seven pm. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.160