WEBVTT - 102: Dirty Little Secrets

0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the toolboxes of production of Shondo Land Audio. In

0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:32.920
<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio, Katie, the SNL did a

0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.280
<v Speaker 1>parody of Olivia Pope. Cecily Strong played Quinn and who

0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.279
<v Speaker 1>played Hawk. I don't I don't remember this. He's one

0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of he's a great actor. I can't remember his name,

0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:46.680
<v Speaker 1>but he was so good it was unfucking believable, Like

0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.519
<v Speaker 1>I was losing my mind. That's the first time we

0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.960
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, We're like like this is crazy, Like

0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.000
<v Speaker 1>we're on SNL. No, this is nit. Guys, like this

0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.360
<v Speaker 1>is like a cultural phenomenon. If you get parodied on SNL,

0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you've made it, folks, you have made it or your

0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>or your life is over because you're like, you know, weener,

0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the guy that showed his weener to the world or whatever,

0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the political guy. We literally did an episode of scandal

0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.800
<v Speaker 1>on the weener thing like sending Dick pis. We had

0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.279
<v Speaker 1>like a guy that had to get fixed for sending,

0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.160
<v Speaker 1>tweeting and sending out too many tests. Yes, yes, yes,

0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.800
<v Speaker 1>there's so much to talk. I'm honestly giddy, like I

0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:28.160
<v Speaker 1>feel I love it very I love you very much.

0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I love you too, Katie. Okay, Garo Diaz and I

0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.800
<v Speaker 1>are just going through paperwork right now because you have,

0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.240
<v Speaker 1>like a I have a fucking book. I wrote down

0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:46.560
<v Speaker 1>your book. Okay, we're so fucking pumped, to be completely honest.

0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.120
<v Speaker 1>So guys, here we have episode one O two. It's

0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.040
<v Speaker 1>titled Dirty Little Secrets. We all have some of those,

0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:56.880
<v Speaker 1>don't we have. It first aired on April twelve, two twelve.

0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a long ass time ago. It was written by

0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the AUSO Heather Mitchell, and directed by Rocks and Dawson.

0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Remember Rocks, and she was one of my first obviously

0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the first directors. Yes, and I think she

0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.600
<v Speaker 1>was our producing director of that season, but we'll get

0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.239
<v Speaker 1>into that later. She was, yeah, yeah, And this episode

0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.079
<v Speaker 1>is guest starring Mimi Kennedy as Sharon Marquette, John gets

0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Keating, and Megan Gallagher is Stacy Keating. I'm gonna

0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.400
<v Speaker 1>take you through the synopsis of the episode of Scandal

0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.040
<v Speaker 1>pace because we need to get into this episode and

0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we cannot be bothered with all these logistics. But I

0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.320
<v Speaker 1>just want to say it really quickly in Scandal past speed,

0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:29.640
<v Speaker 1>so that you know what the hell was going on

0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.200
<v Speaker 1>in the episode. So the synopsis is Olivia must protect

0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:33.799
<v Speaker 1>a new client who's under investigation by the U. S

0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Attorney's Office. Quinn runs into trouble with the Mandatanna when

0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.720
<v Speaker 1>a charming reporter, Gideon Wallace approaches Quinn of the hospital

0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to get information. Meanwhile, at the White House, President

0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Grant is just nominated his first Supreme Court justice, a

0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.320
<v Speaker 1>man who has cross pads with Olivia's most recent client.

0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Katie, that was way too fast. I

0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like I feel like it might be a little

0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.160
<v Speaker 1>too fast for the listeners. Like I get it, you know,

0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.799
<v Speaker 1>we're so used to as scandal place. But I'm gonna

0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.800
<v Speaker 1>do it. I'm gonna try to just, you know, slow

0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.919
<v Speaker 1>it up a little bit for for the listeners. Okay,

0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.200
<v Speaker 1>let me let me let me hear you. Olivia must

0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.920
<v Speaker 1>protect a new client and your investigation by the US

0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Attorneys Office. Quinn was as a trouble with a Mandy

0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Tanner with the charming report Gideon Wallace approaches Quinn at

0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the hospital trying to get information. Meanwhile, at the White House,

0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.880
<v Speaker 1>President Grant has just dominated his first Supreme Court justice,

0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a man who has cross passed with Olivia's most recent client.

0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Damn it. We can't stop scandal pacing? What is wrong

0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.160
<v Speaker 1>with us? Every job I did after Scandal, they were like,

0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.640
<v Speaker 1>can you please just take your time, like slow it down?

0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.600
<v Speaker 1>We are ruined as actors. Thank you so much, Sean Rhimes,

0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.400
<v Speaker 1>But like, yes, first of all, we must know, Garmo,

0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that was really fucking fast. And I always won the

0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.280
<v Speaker 1>award as the fastest scandal pace speaker on the cast,

0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and you just gave me a run for my money.

0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.000
<v Speaker 1>That was pretty fast. Huh. It was really fast. And

0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.080
<v Speaker 1>also we have to give such applaud to Hawk because

0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.440
<v Speaker 1>not only did you master scandal pace, but you would

0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:54.600
<v Speaker 1>normally have to speak at scandal pace whilst saying absolute

0:03:55.160 --> 0:04:00.520
<v Speaker 1>hacking jargon like QR facial recognition software. Yes, stuff, I

0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.560
<v Speaker 1>had no idea what it meant or what it was.

0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I you know, Houck is is this type savvy like

0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:12.000
<v Speaker 1>character obviously everyone knows but me. Garmo Diaz is like, um,

0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.120
<v Speaker 1>where do I go on my phone to turn on

0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the light? Like I'm worse? I think even for this podcast.

0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Someone sent you a link for us to like open

0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.560
<v Speaker 1>up our first meeting on this podcast, and you're all

0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.120
<v Speaker 1>texting me like can you like text me that link.

0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can get it on my

0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.880
<v Speaker 1>computer or my phone. And I'm like, Guillermo, I sure did,

0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I sure did. I was like, Katie, thank you so much.

0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, So that's what happened in the episode. But

0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.640
<v Speaker 1>like sitting down and rewatching episode two gave me such

0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:49.000
<v Speaker 1>fucking vibes because it's just so classic early Scandal. It's

0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a case of the week. The case is Sharon Marquette,

0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.320
<v Speaker 1>who's played by Mimi Kennedy, and she's like, I'm d

0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.279
<v Speaker 1>c's finest madam, is what she says. She's based sly

0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.040
<v Speaker 1>running a whorehouse for like all these politicians where they

0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.120
<v Speaker 1>get their fancy as hookers. And it's the first episode,

0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, once we got picked up. Wait, by the way,

0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.839
<v Speaker 1>how long was this between shooting the pilot and when

0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.920
<v Speaker 1>did we start this? Do you remember? I was going

0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.479
<v Speaker 1>to ask you that because one of the one of

0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that like stuck out for me in this

0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.440
<v Speaker 1>episode was Carrie's wig. I was like, oh, we got

0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.479
<v Speaker 1>some money. Now. They're like, okay, we want to order

0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.320
<v Speaker 1>like seven episodes or six because we had done the pilot.

0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.520
<v Speaker 1>But I was like that, wiy got spruced up. It

0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.240
<v Speaker 1>looked like she went through the Emerald City makeover that

0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Judy Garland goes through, and all of a sudden, she

0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.200
<v Speaker 1>got this like fancy, like curly like up Like you know,

0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.719
<v Speaker 1>everyone is listening. When you shoot a pilot, it's like

0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't give you. I mean, they give you money,

0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's not like if it's series and it goes

0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.919
<v Speaker 1>to series, they're gonna like commit a little bit more. So,

0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.240
<v Speaker 1>yeah's wig and when she comes on this show, we

0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.600
<v Speaker 1>have to have like a whole conversation about wigs because

0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I know she made a lot of character choice is

0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.360
<v Speaker 1>based on whether her hair was curly or straight. But

0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that we see a major upgrade in this episode. Yes,

0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.160
<v Speaker 1>in the first couple of minutes of this episode, we're

0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:15.599
<v Speaker 1>already listening to Stevie Wonder. It's already like don't down't down, down, down,

0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:20.600
<v Speaker 1>let down. And you and Abby are in the Madam's apartment,

0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Steven played by Henry and Cusick is out

0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.119
<v Speaker 1>on the street on the phone with Olivia, and David

0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Rosen drives by and we're on a ticking time clock

0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.240
<v Speaker 1>where like, you guys gotta totally take over whatever is

0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.400
<v Speaker 1>in her apartment before the cops get there. Yeah, yes,

0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and it just seems so cool. Record scratch to Quinn

0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.800
<v Speaker 1>standing waiting for the elevator to come up like a

0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.280
<v Speaker 1>freaking loser. She's like, what the hell is going on? Well,

0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Quinn is also the audience, right, Quinn is the one

0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.839
<v Speaker 1>that's like, Okay, what's what's going down here? Like, film

0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.080
<v Speaker 1>me in, and no one's like really filling her in,

0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're just like you gotta learn, like you gotta

0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:03.040
<v Speaker 1>just watch and learn. In this episode, Olivia is pissed

0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.400
<v Speaker 1>because she has found out that her dude, her love

0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of her life, Fitzgerald Grant the Third, is fucking Amanda Tanner.

0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And now she's pissed, and now Amanda try to kill

0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.000
<v Speaker 1>herself and now here we are where she's like, oh,

0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Amanda Tanner, I'm going to get this bitch to be

0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:23.120
<v Speaker 1>my client. Okay. A couple other things about this episode

0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that need to be mentioned that are in uh some

0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.240
<v Speaker 1>notes G and I take notes people. G takes them

0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.800
<v Speaker 1>on paper. I take them on the notes. In section

0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of my Phone. He played a hacker and he can't

0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:41.400
<v Speaker 1>do anything technologically savvy, okay. David Rosen calls Olivia by

0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:46.320
<v Speaker 1>her whole name, Olivia Caroline Pope. Do you remember where

0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Caroline came from? Okay? I texted Carrie yesterday and I said,

0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.480
<v Speaker 1>do you remember where Caroline comes from? And she's like

0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.680
<v Speaker 1>not no. But I remember being on it and everyone

0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.520
<v Speaker 1>being like, oh my gosh, like it's so lovely that

0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.120
<v Speaker 1>her middle name is Caroline, because that's I want to

0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.320
<v Speaker 1>say Shonda's middle name, but I could be do you

0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:12.520
<v Speaker 1>not remember this at all? I don't remember this at all. Wait,

0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm texting I'm going to text you right now and

0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask her. I really feel like it was

0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a special nod to something. This is also I remember

0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.000
<v Speaker 1>in this in that scene where he says her middle

0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.320
<v Speaker 1>name is the first time he goes to sort of

0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.080
<v Speaker 1>poker and Huck steps up and he's I do not

0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.720
<v Speaker 1>touch her. And it's the first time you see Huck

0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.200
<v Speaker 1>be sort of like um, You're like, oh, that's like

0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Olivia's like protective, like pit bull, like he's like her protector.

0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.160
<v Speaker 1>And I love that moment because he was like, I

0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.760
<v Speaker 1>will snap your neck. Mother. It was really that's when

0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you realize that, like, these aren't just lawyers. Quinn walks

0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.240
<v Speaker 1>in an episode one and says, so you're all lawyers,

0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.479
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, no, lawyers are for losers, like we're fixers,

0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.920
<v Speaker 1>were crisis managers. It's a whole package of different kinds

0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of people. And I always thought in episode two when

0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.520
<v Speaker 1>David Rosen goes to touch Olivia and you're like, do

0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.440
<v Speaker 1>not touch her, You're like, holy shit, these people are. Yeah,

0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.240
<v Speaker 1>they're like a whole mixed bag of crazy. Yeah, they

0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.160
<v Speaker 1>have scary baggage. This is also the episode where we

0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:21.440
<v Speaker 1>meet Morris, Yes, who we've got to have on this podcast.

0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I love him so much. Morris is the White House

0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.760
<v Speaker 1>security guard at the security gate that checks people in,

0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's so lovely and so wonderful and again, such

0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a secret sauce to this show because our guest stars

0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:40.240
<v Speaker 1>are co stars, are people with one line are just

0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:45.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking killing it. We meet Morris, and then right with Morris,

0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Pope is not getting checked into the White House

0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:49.960
<v Speaker 1>right like, they're not letting her in in this episode

0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember why do you remember? Why that Cyrus

0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.679
<v Speaker 1>thinks that Olivia is not on the President's side anymore,

0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.240
<v Speaker 1>so he's like he revokes her her past to the

0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.920
<v Speaker 1>White House. That's right. And so then we meet Billy

0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Chambers who's in line right behind Olivia, and he's like, oh,

0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.760
<v Speaker 1>hold on, let me just call the front gate and

0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.960
<v Speaker 1>let you in, and she's like, thanks so much. Billy.

0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Did Billy know at that time that he was going

0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to be the Billy Chambers He couldn't have, right, No,

0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.839
<v Speaker 1>none of us, well, none of us knew, right, like

0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.240
<v Speaker 1>all the crazy stuff that we do on the show,

0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.400
<v Speaker 1>none of us knew to like the table read. In

0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.679
<v Speaker 1>this episode where we're dealing with the Madam. Abby's all

0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.880
<v Speaker 1>pissed because Steven. She finds out Steven's sleeping or has

0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:34.680
<v Speaker 1>slept with hors and paid prostitutes in the Madam's book. Yeah,

0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.319
<v Speaker 1>as one of her clients exactly. And when you guys

0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.080
<v Speaker 1>have those scenes where you're going through I don't think

0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Huck is there, but it's Harrison Wright and it's Steven

0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're talking about what sunny day is, what hard

0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:53.640
<v Speaker 1>works are, like speaking Greek and then um the world

0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.280
<v Speaker 1>around the world. So like for those of you, I

0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.199
<v Speaker 1>was laughing, and Abby Darby does such an amazing job

0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of being uncomfortable and asking like, well, what's hardwood floors,

0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like in her snarky ass way, and who what's the answer.

0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.840
<v Speaker 1>The answer is so brilliant. It's it's when there's nothing

0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to match, the carpets don't match the drapes or something

0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.240
<v Speaker 1>like that, it just means that she's bald, right well, yeah,

0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.880
<v Speaker 1>like she's yeah, she got that Brazilian wax. She's but

0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like full full throttle, full full full. That's terrifying. Okay.

0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Then she's like, okay, fine, sunny day and they're like,

0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.199
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to wear a raincoat? Yeah, which is guys,

0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm so lame. I'm sitting on my bed. I'm like

0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.200
<v Speaker 1>hysterical laughing. Can you imagine being a writer in the

0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.160
<v Speaker 1>writer's room coming up with this bullshit? I do not.

0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.600
<v Speaker 1>This is what I love about Scandal, especially these this

0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.280
<v Speaker 1>early these early scitles. Of why it gives me like

0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.960
<v Speaker 1>just such it makes me giddy is that the show

0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:56.360
<v Speaker 1>is fucking funny. And then I also love in this episode,

0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:02.280
<v Speaker 1>um that Olivia Pope says all cylinders people, let's go yes?

0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that the first time we hear her say that?

0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it might be. By the way, listeners, we're

0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.600
<v Speaker 1>dealing with only forty two minutes of television. This is

0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the second round of forty two minutes, and we're already

0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:18.000
<v Speaker 1>giving you such hashtags, such T shirts, such sayings, I

0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.080
<v Speaker 1>mean all cylinders people, let's go who says that? And

0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.560
<v Speaker 1>also speaking of T shirts, Katie and I are wearing

0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I think this was our first like merch that we

0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.960
<v Speaker 1>got gifted from Shonda and the producers. Right, it's like

0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.320
<v Speaker 1>a long sleeve black, really nice shirt that says scandal

0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.720
<v Speaker 1>on the front where like your you know, your chest

0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.040
<v Speaker 1>pocket would be where your booby and then on the

0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.800
<v Speaker 1>back it says do you want to be a gladiator

0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.280
<v Speaker 1>in a suit? Right? Or does it say I can't

0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.719
<v Speaker 1>stand up? Do you turn around? All week? It says, oh, yeah,

0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.720
<v Speaker 1>do you want to be a gladiator in a suit?

0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Which is so awesome. So this shirt, bravo to GEARMONI

0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:00.240
<v Speaker 1>because this shirt is ten years old or some and

0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.800
<v Speaker 1>we are wearing it. Yes, yes, well, And I was

0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.200
<v Speaker 1>telling Katie I cannot dry this shirt because if I

0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.080
<v Speaker 1>dry it, it's gonna be like you know, it's it's

0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.240
<v Speaker 1>not going to go over my belly. Garo and I.

0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Over the course of this podcast, we have a lot

0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of vintage pieces that will be coming out. They might

0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.600
<v Speaker 1>be clothing, they might be gifts, they might be shipped

0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.560
<v Speaker 1>we stole from the Scandal set. They might be clothing

0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I stole from the Scandal set. But this shirt is

0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.480
<v Speaker 1>so special and I would never wear it in public

0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.280
<v Speaker 1>because it is way too fucking tight. Totally totally. You

0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.040
<v Speaker 1>know what's funny. I wore I had to go to

0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the grocery store to get detergent, and I have the

0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.520
<v Speaker 1>shirt on and I was in an aisle looking for

0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking for it, which one I was going

0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.559
<v Speaker 1>to pick, and a guy was like kept staring at me,

0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh crap, and he was like,

0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I loved you on Scandal and I was like, oh god,

0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing this Scandle shirt. I was like, how how cheesy? No, no,

0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.400
<v Speaker 1>it's sweet. And everyone listening, so you know, I get recognized,

0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.720
<v Speaker 1>but I really look like everyone else, Like I really

0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.480
<v Speaker 1>think I'm like a pretty average age in size and height,

0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.839
<v Speaker 1>in in brown hair, brown eyes, Like you got to

0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:09.160
<v Speaker 1>really know, I can I don't Garmo fucking Diaz. Cannot

0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:15.480
<v Speaker 1>go anywhere like anywhere, I mean, traveling around with you.

0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how Mikey does it. I don't know

0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.240
<v Speaker 1>because you stick out like a sore thumb, like you're

0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.680
<v Speaker 1>just so special. You don't look like anyone else. You

0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.160
<v Speaker 1>have a vibe about you, You have a look. And

0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the greatest treat about that is that a lot of

0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.240
<v Speaker 1>times when Gammo gets recognized for Scandal, he also gets

0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.080
<v Speaker 1>recognized for Half Baked, and people are just passing you weed.

0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.240
<v Speaker 1>People want to get me hot everywhere I go up.

0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.280
<v Speaker 1>We were in Israel and people were like, you want

0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to get high? Everywhere you got people want to get

0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you high. We were at the White House correspondent dinner.

0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.800
<v Speaker 1>What everyone's trying to get you high? Like everyone just

0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.840
<v Speaker 1>wants to say to their group of friends, I got

0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.040
<v Speaker 1>stoned with Gammo Diaz from Half Baked, or I got

0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>stoned with Hawk or like whatever, You're just cool. You know.

0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Very early in my career, Katie, I learned that you

0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.000
<v Speaker 1>have to be kind to your fans. So I can't

0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:09.880
<v Speaker 1>say no, you know, so I'm I just you know,

0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I have to kindly access I will give you that memory.

0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I will give you that memory. Please, it's not it's

0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.720
<v Speaker 1>it's okay, it's not too much off my back. Um,

0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.720
<v Speaker 1>what else did you love about this episode. One of

0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the things that I loved about about this episode, Katie

0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that's stuck out also was the sets. It's the first

0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you you see the sets of course in

0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the pilot, but this was the first time that you

0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.280
<v Speaker 1>see the recreated actual set where we shot the pilot

0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and an actual location in downtown at l A in

0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.360
<v Speaker 1>this in this old old building where those panels that

0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.560
<v Speaker 1>those window panels that we have on our show, those cracked,

0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.840
<v Speaker 1>flawed window panels were all real and are amazing. You know,

0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Scandal team that works on the sets at the stages

0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.760
<v Speaker 1>where we shot the show recreated that place like perfectly

0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and it looks so freaking good in this episode. That

0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.680
<v Speaker 1>is such a great point And what blessing did they

0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.040
<v Speaker 1>give us because the real one downtown, the real o

0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:13.480
<v Speaker 1>p A, the hallway was actually insanely long, and when

0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they recreated it on the stages, it was like still long,

0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 1>but half the length. Because Quinn is constantly walking up

0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and down the hallway getting people coffee. Like I don't

0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.120
<v Speaker 1>think you had to deal with this, And I hate

0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.080
<v Speaker 1>wearing high heels and my feet are an issue at

0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.680
<v Speaker 1>all times. And those pencil skirts that kept like twisting

0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.440
<v Speaker 1>am I spanks. Every time I took a step, my

0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.520
<v Speaker 1>pencil skirt would just like rotate. I spent eighty hours

0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a week complaining about my feet, which Carrie Washington never did.

0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And she's wearing like literally six inch every single high

0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.120
<v Speaker 1>end fashionable shoe. And I think I was in Jessica

0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Simpson like low price shoe because I you know, when

0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.440
<v Speaker 1>we did fittings, I would say like Quinn doesn't have

0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.520
<v Speaker 1>what Olivia Pope has, like I shouldn't be in product

0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and all this ship. But anyway, they made the hallway

0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.920
<v Speaker 1>half the length when they recreated it, and I remember

0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.760
<v Speaker 1>being like, oh, thank you God, because this will just

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.240
<v Speaker 1>log me like less steps where my feet and my

0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.919
<v Speaker 1>pencil skirt are just just ridiculous, like my feet were

0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.280
<v Speaker 1>hurting so badly. Do you also remember, Katie, the window

0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.600
<v Speaker 1>panels that I mentioned a little bit ago. We would

0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.000
<v Speaker 1>where we would have to put up people's photos. I

0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.480
<v Speaker 1>think you know this, Katie, but I when we wrapped

0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.199
<v Speaker 1>the series, I asked Mary Howard, who was one of

0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.880
<v Speaker 1>our producers. I asked her, Hey, is there any way

0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I can get one of those window panels, and they

0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:37.960
<v Speaker 1>sent me. They delivered one to my house, and it's

0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.920
<v Speaker 1>with the iron around it. Katie, it weighs like a tongue.

0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You didn't know that. No where is it in your house.

0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.879
<v Speaker 1>It's in the right at the entrance of the house,

0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 1>like on the wall right there. It's like one of

0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.560
<v Speaker 1>my favorite things that I have in my house. And

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, thank god I asked for this. I'm

0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.719
<v Speaker 1>seethingly jealous. They literally took one of those things and

0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.359
<v Speaker 1>delivered it to my house. Guillermo, that makes me like

0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.919
<v Speaker 1>sleep better at night knowing that you have one of

0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the window panes. Yes, and our o P A conference

0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:15.639
<v Speaker 1>table desk is the main conference room table at Shondalin

0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Offices in Hollywood. Wait, I didn't know that, Yep. I

0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.199
<v Speaker 1>was there once before. COVID and I walked past the

0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.119
<v Speaker 1>big conference room and it's the op a conference table

0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that you and I boned on where we would hide

0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.840
<v Speaker 1>all our sides on the chairs and then we scooched

0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>them into the table and we boned on that table.

0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:45.760
<v Speaker 1>We should did. We'll be right back, guys. Okay, Quinn

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.159
<v Speaker 1>has one job. You all are working on the Madam case.

0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 1>You're all trying to her not give up her list

0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to David Rosen of all the people in DC who

0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:00.919
<v Speaker 1>are sleeping with prostitutes. I simultaneous, I'm doing this b

0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.440
<v Speaker 1>story where I'm never supposed to let Amanda Tanner out

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of my sight because we know that Gidey and Wallace,

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>who's a reporter from the Sun, has been sniffing around

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and Olivia Pope doesn't want that getting out. So I'm

0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:13.919
<v Speaker 1>just supposed to be watching this girl. And Quinn's like,

0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to watch this girl. And then Olivia

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is like, don't let her out of your site and

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, right, don't let her out of your site.

0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't let her an I say, don't let her, say

0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>don't let her out of my sight. She's gone. How

0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.159
<v Speaker 1>the hell did you get out there that quickly? And

0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.679
<v Speaker 1>also is that allowed? Don't you have to be discharged?

0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.240
<v Speaker 1>And then I go to your office and I say,

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to barf. How do I find something that's

0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.600
<v Speaker 1>gone missing? And You're like, go check her house and

0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh house, check her house, and it's already

0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what's so lovely? Also going back, it's already

0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like I can see what the writers were seeing about

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Huck taking Quinn under his wing, like you can already see,

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.159
<v Speaker 1>like I always go to you. Abby is just like

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 1>so meant Quinn. It's insane and great and lovely and

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I love it and like Harrison just doesn't have time

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.800
<v Speaker 1>because he's just like Mr Man about town and you're

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.640
<v Speaker 1>really the only person. Yeah, that's the left that we'll

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>talk to her, Katie. Do you remember that we used

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk while we were filming the show, like how

0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 1>did how did the writers know? And how does Shanda

0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.400
<v Speaker 1>know our relationships? Because you and I started to get

0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.680
<v Speaker 1>really close and then we'd be like, are there microphones

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 1>like in our trailers? Like and then we'd see it

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.560
<v Speaker 1>in the scripts reflected in the scripts, right, we were

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>like always they know they have got to have bugged

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the makeup so onsets. Makeup trailers is where a lot

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of ship talking gets done. And that's mostly because you're

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 1>there at five o'clock in the morning. You know, your

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>makeup and hair people are the ones that are closest

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 1>to your face at all times, like when you're on

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>your period, when you've had a rough night, when you're

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like so, the makeup trailer just sort of becomes this place,

0:20:58.440 --> 0:20:59.959
<v Speaker 1>and I always like, this ship has got to be

0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 1>bugged because we would talk about we would like have

0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>relationships forming and like trust things happening, and then we

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.480
<v Speaker 1>would see them a hundred percent reflected in scripts down

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the road. Ye. Also, what we would do in the

0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.280
<v Speaker 1>trailer I was going to say was we were really

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>studious and we were drill lines. Well, we had to write.

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>We had to because we had to. We had to

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>scandal pace our dialogue, which I don't know if people

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.119
<v Speaker 1>know we should say that it first started because the

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.200
<v Speaker 1>scripts were so long, right, and there were so many

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>words that I think it was Shonda that said, you

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.639
<v Speaker 1>guys have to talk fast to get all this stuff out,

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's I think where it started. But then we all,

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I think discovered little by little that the faster you

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you speak, I mean, you know, the intention and the

0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>we're still acting under the fast pace. But every time

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it made that scene better, every single time, even beyond scandal.

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm on sets, I'm like, y'all got to speed

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:55.639
<v Speaker 1>that ship up. And not only did we have to

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:57.880
<v Speaker 1>have scandal pace, but we had to be word perfect.

0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.359
<v Speaker 1>This wasn't a show that you were like, hey, you know,

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>throwing an improv like that didn't happen on Scandal, which,

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Gammadiaz brilliant improv actor from Dave Chappelle's

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>show God No, but yeah, I think we had to

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>drill lines. Yeah. In fact, when I watched these episodes back,

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the amount of material Carrie Washington had, Oh my god. Yeah.

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Most hour long scripts, I want to say, are like

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>fifty to sixty pages. Some of our scripts were eighty

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 1>nine fucking pages. That's really long. Crazy to think that

0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.399
<v Speaker 1>would fit in forty two minutes and shoot in nine days.

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>We would we would cut up and have fun and

0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.359
<v Speaker 1>laugh and do all that stuff on set, but most

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 1>of the time, I feel like we'd be like, let's

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.439
<v Speaker 1>run lines, let's run lines. It was NonStop that we

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.360
<v Speaker 1>were like, yo, let's run that scene, Let's run lines,

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>because we just wanted to get it right. We couldn't.

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.679
<v Speaker 1>There was no room for, you know, to mess up.

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And we were like that on each other. I mean,

0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I felt like we were all not goody two shoes,

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but we all really believed in the show and wanted

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to do a good job, and so everyone didn't want

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to be the person in the scene to funk it up.

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of the o p A scenes are

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like those theater scenes where you're in an ensemble you're

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>holding like tossing a volleyball up between all of your lines,

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and if you're the dick that sucks up the take

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>because you go up and you forget the line, it

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>just made the take not usable for everybody else, And

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like no one wanted to be that person. So it

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>was like we were all, can we run? Can we run?

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Coming run? And I don't want to be the one

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that like drops the ball. We have that whole monologue

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>where Olivia and I dropped my jaw down to the ground,

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>which I feel like it is really a poor acting

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 1>choice on my and Olivia says, slip your number in

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the door. She's going to call you and it is

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 1>your job to get her to be our client. And

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh ship, And so I put the number down,

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and she does call because Olivia's a genius and she

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>knows what's going to happen. And so Amanda Tanner and

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I meet, I think, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial,

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and we get a glimpse into Quinn's past, which is

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay Dwyer and I say, Quinn says something like I

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was in trouble once. A lot of people wanted to

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I was in trouble. I was alone, and it was awful.

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Now you think we're getting a glimpse into Quinn Perkin's past,

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.120
<v Speaker 1>But at that point the writer's room did not know

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>what Quinn's passed was. I always forget that they did

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it right. Nobody knew where that was going to go.

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>They didn't know. Oh my god, they didn't know. So

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 1>what I think is interesting is that things were already

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>being built. But I also sometimes wonder if I had

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.679
<v Speaker 1>played it differently, Like I played it as truth, like

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Quinn does have this thing, this like secret, But I

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 1>could have played it as like I'm tricking her, like

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm making it up right just to get it to

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>be a client. Yeah, because Olivia told me too, And

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I always am like, wow, had I been playing that

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>with things have been different? Who knows. Hey, speaking of

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the that scene at the Lincoln Memorial, we should talk

0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>about how that we We shot the show in California,

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>in l A at some stages, at stake our stages.

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.959
<v Speaker 1>But the c G I, what is it the green screen?

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>What is it considered c G I, the you know,

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the backgrounds. I think so because when you see when

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 1>you see uh, the Lincoln Memorial and other you know,

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>historical sites in d C, like that's all green screen.

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>And and the team that did that were so freaking

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>talented too, because I remember remember people would come up

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to us all the time and be like, you guys,

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>shoot the show in d C. People still think that now, yeah,

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and we'd be like, no, it's green screen. They'd be

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>like what, because it's good. It's really it was really

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 1>really good, Like they did an amazing job. Yeah. We

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>would always be outside in parks all over l A

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and then they would have this like massive green screen

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 1>that they would then superimpose, like you're saying, the gentleman

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>is in Memorial, Memorial, whatever the mall, and we would

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>be dressed in coats, sweating balls in California where it

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>never gets cold except for today. And Lynn Paulow we're

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>going to have her on too. She's an amazing costume designer.

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Lynn Pallo. She I think just set the world. I

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that was her choice or Shawn's choice

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>that it was just forever fall. I think it's like

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>forever fall, which means we're always in peak coats a scarf.

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Olivia is obviously like in the most incredible gloves you've

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>ever seen in your entire life that go up to

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>her elbow. But most a lot of times we would

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>be in like a hundred and ten degrees in a

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>wool code having to act. I mean, the chief thing

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 1>that was going on in my pencil shirts. I deserve

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>all the acting awards people, And I wasn't freaking flannels, remember,

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>flannels and then a leather jacket on top of that,

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and boots later on down the road. It used to

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>be like a war of like Lynn would be like, well,

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>we can't, we need to have different flannels on quinnin

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>hot That's right, that's right. We started dressing started dressing

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>us very much alike you were in in in freaking

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>black leather boots and leather jackets and flannels and yeah

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you love that though, right I can't. Yeah, it was

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>so sexy. We'll get there. That's how the should I talk? Yes,

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>we'll get there. I did too, Okay, how Sharon Marquette

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>gets off is Olivia staring at the board, which, by

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the way, that's what we call that glass wall that

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>we put up the cases and all the people's pictures.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>We called it like who's at the board. So Olivia

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>is staring at the board, at the board, and she

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>has this brilliant idea. Let's call all these douchebags. Let's

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>call all these dudes to the table and say like, look, guys,

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>this is all going to come out in your life

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>is screwed. Unless we all pool together our resources, we're

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>all trifling. Bill Withers comes on, call me Mr Pitiful.

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Best song ever. I love the soundtrack of this entire show,

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>especially this episode. And Harrison goes around and he's like,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>hey Wooden Floors, Hey you, hey, sunny Coat whatever. That

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>music montage scene is the best. And and Harrison Man

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>harr Wison is the dude like, I'm like in love

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>with him. He's so love Columbus Short is so freaking

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>cool and good and sexy and sexy, and and he's

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>flipping his phone and he's walking the walk and he's

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>solving the cases and he's out there and they're playing

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>fucking awesome music and he's just makes it look effortless,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 1>so so good, so good love Columbus. So they all

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>come in and they get Sharon Marquette off praise b

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>We cut two fits wasted in the Oval, and he's

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>on the seal and he's in a scene with Cyrus

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and he tells Cyrus like, I love Olivia Pope. We're

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>not talking about this tomorrow, but I'm in love with

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Pope. I mean he's whipped, he got whipped. He's

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>so whipped. And at those in those beginning times, like

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>especially episode two, this early on in the in the series,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it was such separate shows. Like

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>we never went over there. They never came over to us.

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>We only saw them at table reads. Yeah there, we remember,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean moving forward, you know, closer to other seasons,

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>we'd have our characters have eventually sometimes go to the

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>White House. But it was such a big deal for us,

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>right we'd be like, oh my god, we're gonna be

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>at the White House. I can't believe I'm acting with

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>bellamre with with Jeff or Tony. Yeah, because we never

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>we never you know, encountered them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>was two separate worlds, completely, two separate worlds, and ours

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and ours was better. Oh like anyway, I'm just saying

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>yeah and cuter, I think before we were really going

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>over there, and maybe even before we really started to

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>have storylines intermingle Tony came over and we would he

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>directed an episode or two, and he'd always like hate

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>love directing O P A. Because he would be like,

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>what the fun, Like you guys, you gotta focus, stop singing,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>stop dancing, like Columbus Short is the best dancer ever.

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>He liked choreographed. Whitney spears like a world tour she

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>had like a million years ago, Like he's an amazing mover,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and if like it's even you can even see it

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>in this episode when he like anytime he solves a case,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the way he walks, the way he handles his props,

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>his phones, it's like fucking cool. And I just think

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>when Tony came over, he was in shock at like

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>not that we're unprofessional, we're just better, but I remember

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.959
<v Speaker 1>that he was like he felt like he was like

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a substitute teacher who was like you know, and the

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>kids were just out of control, like you could not

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>get us to stop talking. But you were the best, Katie.

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>You were. I remember you. We'd be like talking and

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>then they'd be like okay, rolling, but you still be

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about and then like close to actually be like, Olivia,

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I need to go to that. You were so good

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>at going from like you know what I mean, from

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>reality to like, Quinn, you were so good at it.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm so honored you were so so good at it. Okay,

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>So we talked about the Lincoln memorial part, and then

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the end of the episode is that Gideon walks in

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and Amanda Tanna is there and she's now become our client,

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you don't have a story, and he's like, well,

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure, but now that I've just walked in

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>here and aman Tanna is here and you're here, now

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I do what a freaking turd? Right? I was like,

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you're a little turd. Like he's so annoying in this episode.

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I was like a little bitch, like what is wrong?

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Who's this? Is that your best friend? Did she just

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>try to kill herself? Oh? Wow? Or whatever? The hell?

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>When he walks in and he's saying, Quinn like, oh yeah, yeah, Well,

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what's funny. When I first met Gideon, who's

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>an amazing actor, he's he's doing this is what he needed.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>He's an amazing actor. And by the way, do you

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>know who he's married to Gideon Wallace, who is played

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>by Brendan Hines. During the pandemic, married Tatiana mass Lani,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>who played who is the leading Orphan Black. She won

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the Emmy for Orphan Black. Do you know I swear

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to say the Russian ice skater.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even kidding, Oksana Bayou. I was thinking Oksana,

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, that motherfucker married the Russian skater.

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm so dumb. Wait, No, Gideon did not marry Axana

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>by that's the stupidest thing. Oh God, I hope this

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>podcast comes out and we just start that rumor. Boy,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope she's okay. Well, she's okay, she's okay, but wait,

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he married this lovely woman. He married Tatiana Muslani. No,

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>she's like literally one of the greatest actions of our time.

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly who that is outstanding and they're both Canadian,

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's like living this phenomenal life. Bless Gideon,

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, bless Brendon hyd and bless that is

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a rap on, I'm kidding. We will be back with

0:32:55.200 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>more after the break. Benito Unpacking the toolbox. Wait, how

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>do you say unpacking the tool box in Spanish. I

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know, that's hard. I don't know something like that. Yeah, welcome,

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>welcome back, y'all. I remember coming to the Prospect offices

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to read episode two when we had heard we were

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>picked up, and Sean is sitting down next to me

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and being like, that's going to be your love interest,

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like right there, Brendan Hines, and I remember being like, huh,

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. It's not that he's so handsome and

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>like a great actor. I just was like not ready

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>to like have a love interest. I wasn't like comfortable yet.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I felt like, oh god, fuck, that's what Quinn's gonna

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>be doing. Oh no, I think your first one of

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>your first thoughts, which was for all of us, because

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>when I first found out that Huck was going to

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have a love interest, was like, am I going to

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>have have my shirt off? Do I have to stop eating?

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Do I need to work out? What the fuck are

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>they gonna have a shirt? Because it's scandals, so you

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>knew they were going to end up screwing right show people.

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Fucking was on the table. I mean not cable, not

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>cable sex, not cable sex, but yeah, ten PM sex,

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>which is more than Grays at nine pm, and we

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>had all seen Grays. We knew we were going to

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>be pushing the envelope a little more than that. Yes,

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't that it was like, oh no, Brendan Hynes.

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 1>It was more like, oh no, wait, shit, I'm gonna

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>have a love interest. I'm gonna have to have to

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>be doing stuff like I didn't have a lot of

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 1>experience with that. But anyway, Gideon Wallace the tur Yes,

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>he's Turkish in the episode, and that he just is

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like trying to uncover the case and it might be annoying. Yeah.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>And also a little piece of information about Brendan Hynes

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.399
<v Speaker 1>is that he did Lock and Key with Darby. He's

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>in that show with Darby. Yeah. Yeah, Well get on

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>board because Brendan Hines and Gideon Wallace are a big

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>part of season one. There's a lot going on, and

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking a lot about Brennan Hinz

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and x Bayule and the rest of this season. The

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Scandal Rewatch podcast Unpagging the Toolbox. Fun facts about the episode,

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>This is funny. We talked about the Stevie wonder of

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it all and the songs which I feel like are perfect.

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>The episode was referenced in Jeopardy That's right, yeah, and

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>this I love. There's a small continuity error people. You know,

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>some of those Twitter fans are going to be like, oh,

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that, My god. The continuity error is Patrick

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Keating is the president's first Supreme Court justice nominee during

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>his presidency. But in season two, episode eight, Happy Birthday

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>as a President, we learned that as part of the

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Defiance conspiracy deal, Verna Thornton was to receive a seat

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>on the Supreme Court, being fits his first Supreme Court

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>justice nominee in his term. We need to get someone

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>on this show because I think most writer's room have

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>not a dramatr but like a researcher, isn't there someone

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in the room whose straight? But at some point that

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff has to kind of go out the window and

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>there's got to be creative like light what is it

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>called creative license or whatever it's called, to just be

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like you know what, like, yeah, that was that. But listen,

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 1>there's five freaking episodes like give us a break. Listen.

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge Golden Girls fan, and in some episodes,

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Blanche has you know, one daughter and then the other

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>one she's got two daughters and one of them is

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>named this, and then the names change and I'm like,

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>who cares. It's a great show, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff is continuity. Stuff is all screwed up on that show,

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and I think I'm on great shows. Yeah. For example,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>my first screen test was for Guiding Light, which is

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like one or I don't think it's not anymore, but

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>it was like the longest running soap opera, and I

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>was coming on to test to just be someone else

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>who already existed in that role. Like that's how much

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>people don't give a ship. Oh yeah, that's where it started.

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>You're right. They were like, you're auditioning to play like

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like Abby, like if I was going in and just

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 1>like you're just replacing Abby. She played the role for

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty years and now she wants to retire or we

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>can't make ends meet in her contract or whatever, so

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>will you just come on and be this person? And

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you're like wait what, like no care? Yeah, but the

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>audience somehow accepts it, right, Like they don't make a

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>big deal about it, and people just just accepted because

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, the show is still really great. Guiding

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Like was an amazing show. You know what, I didn't

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>get that part. And guess who did Who This amazing

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>actress named Mellie Melissa Fumero, who was one of the

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>lead girls on Brooklyn nine nine and right now she's

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:54.280
<v Speaker 1>on that show Blockbuster, and she's a wonderful working actress.

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And we went to nd YU together and at the

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>time I was so bummed. I was like, I can't

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>believe she's replacing Aubrey or whatever. The character's name was,

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a guying light and she like right out of the gate,

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>got like a four year contract on a soap opera

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and like made money. God. I used to tell myself like, oh, whatever,

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be pigeonholed into being a soap

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>opera actor because then that's all you'll ever be. Well, guys,

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that's not true, because Melissa Favara is doing great. But

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>at the time, that's like it means so much writing

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh god, this would have meant the world.

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>But look at you now, look at you now played

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Quinn on Scandal. Thank you? Oh my god. I just

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>heard back from the Queen herself, Shonda Rhymes, and I wrote, again,

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.399
<v Speaker 1>why was Caroline Olivia Pope's middle name no presh doing

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the podcast now three heart emojis, Oh no, and then

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I added, is that your middle name or something? That's

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>what I remember. I remember being on set and someone

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>saying that this is Shonda's middle name. I am like, literally,

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm making ship up that none of that is true.

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>She wrote, Nope, it just came out of my head

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>one day in writing the show. Wow, you heard it

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>here first, folks. Also, just so, just so everyone knows,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I do not have Shonda Rhyme's phone number. Go on, Katie,

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>go on, continue, I'm gonna give it to you. Please don't,

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>please don't. I don't want to send her something by

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>mistake and be like, oh my god. No. But I'm

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>going to bring it to all of you, all of

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you listeners. I am going to bring you the good stuff.

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I will reserve it and not text her anymore unless

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it's unless it's def coon for all cylinders people, let's go,

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>but no, out of her brilliant head, Olivia Caroline Pope,

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>can we just sing the song we used to sing

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>whenever Olivia Pope O p A was handling a case. Pope, Pope,

0:39:52.440 --> 0:40:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Pope it out, uh, that's folks on and byu y'all.

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Brendan Haynes, congratulations, May may your love last forever. But

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>before we go, like real quick, we got to read

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>some tweets at the time. You all know, all you

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>super fans, all you o G gladiators that are listening,

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you know that Twitter was the backbone and party. Every

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>single Thursday night, ten pm East Coast time, Mountain time,

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Pacific time, whatever fucking time. Twitter was going off, and

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Gee and I thought it would be really funny if

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>we could go back and find any tweets because it's

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 1>such a time capsule. We have three here that I

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>they're not that great, but they're gonna get great. They're

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna get great. These tweets at the time are okay,

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>But I know this, this segment will pay off in

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>later episode. This is just the big inning. This is

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>when people are just starting to get there, like Twitter,

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>feet wet so all the way. In April twelfth of

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve, Miss Cassia, who is at Savon Black,

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>quotes I'm a gladiator in a suit. I don't know

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 1>if it was her, but on Twitter and some fan

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:22.240
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter hashtag the first Gladiator as being like that's

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the name of fans who watched Scandal, which stuck and

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>still sticks to this day. Like I have people come

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>up and they're like, no, no no, you don't get it,

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm a gladiator, Like I'm a gladiator, and I'm like,

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I believe you. I believe you. They're like, no, I'm

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>like an O G gladiator. Like from the beginning, from

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>day one, I'm like, I believe you're a gladiator. I

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>need to get my groceries. I believe you are gladiator.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And then from that we change it to like gladiator

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>in pajamas, Gladiator in whatever, Gladiator in doctor Close, Gladie.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Like people would change it for whatever they needed. Bonnie

0:41:54.680 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Smith at Bond Bond Faboo on April twelve, twelve wrote,

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Thursday night prime time is the place to watch strong,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>intelligent women kicking ass and taking names freedom major pain

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>forty four. She retweeted Scandal, ABC, do you think Amanda

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Town is telling the truth about her affair with the president? Uh?

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Hashtag scandal. The president is a liar. He's a liar.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what she wrote. The President is a liar. He

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>is a freaking liar. Like it's in this episode there's

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>so many references to to, you know, the Monica Lewinsky

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton scandal as well. And Cyrus has a line

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to the President in this episode Dirty Little Secrets, and

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>he says, don't don't Clinton talk to me or something

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like that, and I thought I caught that yesterday when

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I was rewatching it. I've watched this episode like twelve times. Um,

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, oh, that's such a great line.

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>These tweets will get crazier and crazier. They have to

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 1>be like the nastiest, like crazy tweets ever. Right. I

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>spent a whole night on Twitter in one of the

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 1>episodes talk think about my ass, And I went to

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 1>work and I told Oliver Bockelberg, are amazing. DP. We

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>were doing some episode where there was a mansion and

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>they did a wide angle shot to show this is

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>what I tell myself. Did a wide angle shot to

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>show the mansion and my my the back of Quinn

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is what walked us into the shot. And this was

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>insane what was shown on national television. And I spent

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the entire episode just reading tweets about my butt. No yeah,

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and like pent of them were complimentary and I'll take

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it honey, I will take it. But but look, we're

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>just getting started on the Scandal rewatch podcast. I'm Packing

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the Toolbox. This is we're just starting the unpacking at

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the Toolbox. So like things are going to get crazy.

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>The series keeps getting more insane, intense, wild, so will

0:43:55.640 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this podcast. We're gonna about different shirts or no shirts

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>for some of the podcasts. I'm down. I love early

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 1>o g Scandal though, like I just am both psyched

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to be on this ride with everybody listening and with you, Garmo.

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I love you so much. But I'm so happy to

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 1>be watching these early episodes. They have such a fucking

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 1>place in my heart. We're literally reliving this experience right

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's pretty We're pretty lucky. This is awesome. I'm

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>super excited. And again, this is just the beginning, y'all.

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>This is just episode two of Unpacking the Toolbox. And

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>next week come back listen to us talk about season

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>one episode three. Yes, y'all, please come back. The episode

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>is called hell Hath No Fury And if you want

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear me and Katie like a tug shit and

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 1>cut up and crack up where we're crying, come back

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and listen to the next episode. Yes, and listen and

0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>tell your friends I'm talking to you. All you gladiators

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>out there o G. Gladiators and suits, Gladiators and doctor pants,

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Gladiators and sweatpants, Gladiators with wine glasses, Gladiators on spin bikes,

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Gladiators with popcorn. Whatever gladiator you find yourself to be,

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>current or in the past. Come be part of the

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Scandal fam and tune in next week. Thank you so

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:26.479
<v Speaker 1>much for listening. I love you guard Hi guys, Thank

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox. If

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate,

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>or leave us a review. Scandal is executive produced by

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Sandy Bailey, alex Alcha, Lauren Holman, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins.

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Our producer and editor is Vince to Johnny, with music

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 1>by Chad Fisher. Scandal is a production of ABC Signature,

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and you can follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu.

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondalan Audio in

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from shondaland Audio,

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>visit the I Heart Radio app or anywhere you subscrip

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>up to your favorite shows