1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Unpacking the toolboxes of production of Shondo Land Audio. In 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: partnership with I Heart Radio, Katie, the SNL did a 3 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: parody of Olivia Pope. Cecily Strong played Quinn and who 4 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: played Hawk. I don't I don't remember this. He's one 5 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: of he's a great actor. I can't remember his name, 6 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: but he was so good it was unfucking believable, Like 7 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: I was losing my mind. That's the first time we 8 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: were like, oh, We're like like this is crazy, Like 9 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: we're on SNL. No, this is nit. Guys, like this 10 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: is like a cultural phenomenon. If you get parodied on SNL, 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: you've made it, folks, you have made it or your 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: or your life is over because you're like, you know, weener, 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: the guy that showed his weener to the world or whatever, 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: the political guy. We literally did an episode of scandal 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: on the weener thing like sending Dick pis. We had 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: like a guy that had to get fixed for sending, 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: tweeting and sending out too many tests. Yes, yes, yes, 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: there's so much to talk. I'm honestly giddy, like I 19 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: feel I love it very I love you very much. 20 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: I love you too, Katie. Okay, Garo Diaz and I 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: are just going through paperwork right now because you have, 22 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: like a I have a fucking book. I wrote down 23 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: your book. Okay, we're so fucking pumped, to be completely honest. 24 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: So guys, here we have episode one O two. It's 25 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: titled Dirty Little Secrets. We all have some of those, 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: don't we have. It first aired on April twelve, two twelve. 27 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: That's a long ass time ago. It was written by 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: the AUSO Heather Mitchell, and directed by Rocks and Dawson. 29 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Remember Rocks, and she was one of my first obviously 30 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: one of the first directors. Yes, and I think she 31 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: was our producing director of that season, but we'll get 32 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: into that later. She was, yeah, yeah, And this episode 33 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: is guest starring Mimi Kennedy as Sharon Marquette, John gets 34 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: Patrick Keating, and Megan Gallagher is Stacy Keating. I'm gonna 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: take you through the synopsis of the episode of Scandal 36 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: pace because we need to get into this episode and 37 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: we cannot be bothered with all these logistics. But I 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: just want to say it really quickly in Scandal past speed, 39 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: so that you know what the hell was going on 40 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: in the episode. So the synopsis is Olivia must protect 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: a new client who's under investigation by the U. S 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Attorney's Office. Quinn runs into trouble with the Mandatanna when 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: a charming reporter, Gideon Wallace approaches Quinn of the hospital 44 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: trying to get information. Meanwhile, at the White House, President 45 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Grant is just nominated his first Supreme Court justice, a 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: man who has cross pads with Olivia's most recent client. 47 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Katie, that was way too fast. I 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like it might be a little 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: too fast for the listeners. Like I get it, you know, 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: we're so used to as scandal place. But I'm gonna 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: do it. I'm gonna try to just, you know, slow 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: it up a little bit for for the listeners. Okay, 53 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: let me let me let me hear you. Olivia must 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: protect a new client and your investigation by the US 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: Attorneys Office. Quinn was as a trouble with a Mandy 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Tanner with the charming report Gideon Wallace approaches Quinn at 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: the hospital trying to get information. Meanwhile, at the White House, 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: President Grant has just dominated his first Supreme Court justice, 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: a man who has cross passed with Olivia's most recent client. 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Damn it. We can't stop scandal pacing? What is wrong 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: with us? Every job I did after Scandal, they were like, 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: can you please just take your time, like slow it down? 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: We are ruined as actors. Thank you so much, Sean Rhimes, 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: But like, yes, first of all, we must know, Garmo, 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: that was really fucking fast. And I always won the 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: award as the fastest scandal pace speaker on the cast, 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: and you just gave me a run for my money. 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: That was pretty fast. Huh. It was really fast. And 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: also we have to give such applaud to Hawk because 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: not only did you master scandal pace, but you would 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: normally have to speak at scandal pace whilst saying absolute 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: hacking jargon like QR facial recognition software. Yes, stuff, I 73 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: had no idea what it meant or what it was. 74 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: I you know, Houck is is this type savvy like 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: character obviously everyone knows but me. Garmo Diaz is like, um, 76 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: where do I go on my phone to turn on 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: the light? Like I'm worse? I think even for this podcast. 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: Someone sent you a link for us to like open 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: up our first meeting on this podcast, and you're all 80 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: texting me like can you like text me that link. 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can get it on my 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: computer or my phone. And I'm like, Guillermo, I sure did, 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: I sure did. I was like, Katie, thank you so much. 84 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: All right, So that's what happened in the episode. But 85 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: like sitting down and rewatching episode two gave me such 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: fucking vibes because it's just so classic early Scandal. It's 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: a case of the week. The case is Sharon Marquette, 88 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: who's played by Mimi Kennedy, and she's like, I'm d 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: c's finest madam, is what she says. She's based sly 90 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: running a whorehouse for like all these politicians where they 91 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: get their fancy as hookers. And it's the first episode, 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, once we got picked up. Wait, by the way, 93 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: how long was this between shooting the pilot and when 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: did we start this? Do you remember? I was going 95 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: to ask you that because one of the one of 96 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: the things that like stuck out for me in this 97 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: episode was Carrie's wig. I was like, oh, we got 98 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: some money. Now. They're like, okay, we want to order 99 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: like seven episodes or six because we had done the pilot. 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: But I was like that, wiy got spruced up. It 101 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: looked like she went through the Emerald City makeover that 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: Judy Garland goes through, and all of a sudden, she 103 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: got this like fancy, like curly like up Like you know, 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: everyone is listening. When you shoot a pilot, it's like 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: they don't give you. I mean, they give you money, 106 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: but it's not like if it's series and it goes 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: to series, they're gonna like commit a little bit more. So, 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: yeah's wig and when she comes on this show, we 109 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: have to have like a whole conversation about wigs because 110 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: I know she made a lot of character choice is 111 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: based on whether her hair was curly or straight. But 112 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: I think that we see a major upgrade in this episode. Yes, 113 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: in the first couple of minutes of this episode, we're 114 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: already listening to Stevie Wonder. It's already like don't down't down, down, down, 115 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: let down. And you and Abby are in the Madam's apartment, 116 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, Steven played by Henry and Cusick is out 117 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: on the street on the phone with Olivia, and David 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Rosen drives by and we're on a ticking time clock 119 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: where like, you guys gotta totally take over whatever is 120 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: in her apartment before the cops get there. Yeah, yes, 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: and it just seems so cool. Record scratch to Quinn 122 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: standing waiting for the elevator to come up like a 123 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: freaking loser. She's like, what the hell is going on? Well, 124 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: Quinn is also the audience, right, Quinn is the one 125 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: that's like, Okay, what's what's going down here? Like, film 126 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: me in, and no one's like really filling her in, 127 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: and they're just like you gotta learn, like you gotta 128 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: just watch and learn. In this episode, Olivia is pissed 129 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: because she has found out that her dude, her love 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: of her life, Fitzgerald Grant the Third, is fucking Amanda Tanner. 131 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: And now she's pissed, and now Amanda try to kill 132 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: herself and now here we are where she's like, oh, 133 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: Amanda Tanner, I'm going to get this bitch to be 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: my client. Okay. A couple other things about this episode 135 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: that need to be mentioned that are in uh some 136 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: notes G and I take notes people. G takes them 137 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: on paper. I take them on the notes. In section 138 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: of my Phone. He played a hacker and he can't 139 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: do anything technologically savvy, okay. David Rosen calls Olivia by 140 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: her whole name, Olivia Caroline Pope. Do you remember where 141 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: Caroline came from? Okay? I texted Carrie yesterday and I said, 142 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: do you remember where Caroline comes from? And she's like 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: not no. But I remember being on it and everyone 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: being like, oh my gosh, like it's so lovely that 145 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: her middle name is Caroline, because that's I want to 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: say Shonda's middle name, but I could be do you 147 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: not remember this at all? I don't remember this at all. Wait, 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm texting I'm going to text you right now and 149 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask her. I really feel like it was 150 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: a special nod to something. This is also I remember 151 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: in this in that scene where he says her middle 152 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: name is the first time he goes to sort of 153 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: poker and Huck steps up and he's I do not 154 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: touch her. And it's the first time you see Huck 155 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: be sort of like um, You're like, oh, that's like 156 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Olivia's like protective, like pit bull, like he's like her protector. 157 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: And I love that moment because he was like, I 158 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: will snap your neck. Mother. It was really that's when 159 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: you realize that, like, these aren't just lawyers. Quinn walks 160 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: in an episode one and says, so you're all lawyers, 161 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 1: and you're like, no, lawyers are for losers, like we're fixers, 162 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: were crisis managers. It's a whole package of different kinds 163 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: of people. And I always thought in episode two when 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: David Rosen goes to touch Olivia and you're like, do 165 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: not touch her, You're like, holy shit, these people are. Yeah, 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: they're like a whole mixed bag of crazy. Yeah, they 167 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: have scary baggage. This is also the episode where we 168 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: meet Morris, Yes, who we've got to have on this podcast. 169 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: I love him so much. Morris is the White House 170 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: security guard at the security gate that checks people in, 171 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: and he's so lovely and so wonderful and again, such 172 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: a secret sauce to this show because our guest stars 173 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: are co stars, are people with one line are just 174 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: fucking killing it. We meet Morris, and then right with Morris, 175 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: Olivia Pope is not getting checked into the White House 176 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: right like, they're not letting her in in this episode 177 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: I can't remember why do you remember? Why that Cyrus 178 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: thinks that Olivia is not on the President's side anymore, 179 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: so he's like he revokes her her past to the 180 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: White House. That's right. And so then we meet Billy 181 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: Chambers who's in line right behind Olivia, and he's like, oh, 182 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: hold on, let me just call the front gate and 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: let you in, and she's like, thanks so much. Billy. 184 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: Did Billy know at that time that he was going 185 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: to be the Billy Chambers He couldn't have, right, No, 186 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: none of us, well, none of us knew, right, like 187 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: all the crazy stuff that we do on the show, 188 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: none of us knew to like the table read. In 189 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: this episode where we're dealing with the Madam. Abby's all 190 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: pissed because Steven. She finds out Steven's sleeping or has 191 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: slept with hors and paid prostitutes in the Madam's book. Yeah, 192 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: as one of her clients exactly. And when you guys 193 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: have those scenes where you're going through I don't think 194 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Huck is there, but it's Harrison Wright and it's Steven 195 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: and they're talking about what sunny day is, what hard 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: works are, like speaking Greek and then um the world 197 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: around the world. So like for those of you, I 198 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: was laughing, and Abby Darby does such an amazing job 199 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: of being uncomfortable and asking like, well, what's hardwood floors, 200 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: like in her snarky ass way, and who what's the answer. 201 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: The answer is so brilliant. It's it's when there's nothing 202 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: to match, the carpets don't match the drapes or something 203 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: like that, it just means that she's bald, right well, yeah, 204 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: like she's yeah, she got that Brazilian wax. She's but 205 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: like full full throttle, full full full. That's terrifying. Okay. 206 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: Then she's like, okay, fine, sunny day and they're like, 207 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: you don't have to wear a raincoat? Yeah, which is guys, 208 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: I'm so lame. I'm sitting on my bed. I'm like 209 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: hysterical laughing. Can you imagine being a writer in the 210 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: writer's room coming up with this bullshit? I do not. 211 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: This is what I love about Scandal, especially these this 212 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: early these early scitles. Of why it gives me like 213 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: just such it makes me giddy is that the show 214 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: is fucking funny. And then I also love in this episode, 215 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: um that Olivia Pope says all cylinders people, let's go yes? 216 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Is that the first time we hear her say that? 217 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: I think it might be. By the way, listeners, we're 218 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: dealing with only forty two minutes of television. This is 219 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: the second round of forty two minutes, and we're already 220 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: giving you such hashtags, such T shirts, such sayings, I 221 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: mean all cylinders people, let's go who says that? And 222 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: also speaking of T shirts, Katie and I are wearing 223 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: I think this was our first like merch that we 224 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: got gifted from Shonda and the producers. Right, it's like 225 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: a long sleeve black, really nice shirt that says scandal 226 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: on the front where like your you know, your chest 227 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: pocket would be where your booby and then on the 228 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: back it says do you want to be a gladiator 229 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: in a suit? Right? Or does it say I can't 230 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: stand up? Do you turn around? All week? It says, oh, yeah, 231 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: do you want to be a gladiator in a suit? 232 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Which is so awesome. So this shirt, bravo to GEARMONI 233 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: because this shirt is ten years old or some and 234 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: we are wearing it. Yes, yes, well, And I was 235 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: telling Katie I cannot dry this shirt because if I 236 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: dry it, it's gonna be like you know, it's it's 237 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: not going to go over my belly. Garo and I. 238 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: Over the course of this podcast, we have a lot 239 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: of vintage pieces that will be coming out. They might 240 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: be clothing, they might be gifts, they might be shipped 241 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: we stole from the Scandal set. They might be clothing 242 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: I stole from the Scandal set. But this shirt is 243 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: so special and I would never wear it in public 244 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: because it is way too fucking tight. Totally totally. You 245 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: know what's funny. I wore I had to go to 246 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: the grocery store to get detergent, and I have the 247 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: shirt on and I was in an aisle looking for 248 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, looking for it, which one I was going 249 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: to pick, and a guy was like kept staring at me, 250 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh crap, and he was like, 251 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: I loved you on Scandal and I was like, oh god, 252 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm wearing this Scandle shirt. I was like, how how cheesy? No, no, 253 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: it's sweet. And everyone listening, so you know, I get recognized, 254 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: but I really look like everyone else, Like I really 255 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: think I'm like a pretty average age in size and height, 256 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: in in brown hair, brown eyes, Like you got to 257 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: really know, I can I don't Garmo fucking Diaz. Cannot 258 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: go anywhere like anywhere, I mean, traveling around with you. 259 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how Mikey does it. I don't know 260 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: because you stick out like a sore thumb, like you're 261 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: just so special. You don't look like anyone else. You 262 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: have a vibe about you, You have a look. And 263 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: the greatest treat about that is that a lot of 264 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: times when Gammo gets recognized for Scandal, he also gets 265 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: recognized for Half Baked, and people are just passing you weed. 266 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: People want to get me hot everywhere I go up. 267 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: We were in Israel and people were like, you want 268 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: to get high? Everywhere you got people want to get 269 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: you high. We were at the White House correspondent dinner. 270 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: What everyone's trying to get you high? Like everyone just 271 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: wants to say to their group of friends, I got 272 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: stoned with Gammo Diaz from Half Baked, or I got 273 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: stoned with Hawk or like whatever, You're just cool. You know. 274 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Very early in my career, Katie, I learned that you 275 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: have to be kind to your fans. So I can't 276 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: say no, you know, so I'm I just you know, 277 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: I have to kindly access I will give you that memory. 278 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I will give you that memory. Please, it's not it's 279 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's not too much off my back. Um, 280 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: what else did you love about this episode. One of 281 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: the things that I loved about about this episode, Katie 282 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: that's stuck out also was the sets. It's the first 283 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you you see the sets of course in 284 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: the pilot, but this was the first time that you 285 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: see the recreated actual set where we shot the pilot 286 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: and an actual location in downtown at l A in 287 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: this in this old old building where those panels that 288 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: those window panels that we have on our show, those cracked, 289 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: flawed window panels were all real and are amazing. You know, 290 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Scandal team that works on the sets at the stages 291 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: where we shot the show recreated that place like perfectly 292 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: and it looks so freaking good in this episode. That 293 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: is such a great point And what blessing did they 294 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: give us because the real one downtown, the real o 295 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: p A, the hallway was actually insanely long, and when 296 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: they recreated it on the stages, it was like still long, 297 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: but half the length. Because Quinn is constantly walking up 298 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: and down the hallway getting people coffee. Like I don't 299 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: think you had to deal with this, And I hate 300 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: wearing high heels and my feet are an issue at 301 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: all times. And those pencil skirts that kept like twisting 302 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: am I spanks. Every time I took a step, my 303 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: pencil skirt would just like rotate. I spent eighty hours 304 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: a week complaining about my feet, which Carrie Washington never did. 305 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: And she's wearing like literally six inch every single high 306 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: end fashionable shoe. And I think I was in Jessica 307 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Simpson like low price shoe because I you know, when 308 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: we did fittings, I would say like Quinn doesn't have 309 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: what Olivia Pope has, like I shouldn't be in product 310 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: and all this ship. But anyway, they made the hallway 311 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: half the length when they recreated it, and I remember 312 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: being like, oh, thank you God, because this will just 313 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: log me like less steps where my feet and my 314 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: pencil skirt are just just ridiculous, like my feet were 315 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: hurting so badly. Do you also remember, Katie, the window 316 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: panels that I mentioned a little bit ago. We would 317 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: where we would have to put up people's photos. I 318 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: think you know this, Katie, but I when we wrapped 319 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: the series, I asked Mary Howard, who was one of 320 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: our producers. I asked her, Hey, is there any way 321 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: I can get one of those window panels, and they 322 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: sent me. They delivered one to my house, and it's 323 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: with the iron around it. Katie, it weighs like a tongue. 324 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: You didn't know that. No where is it in your house. 325 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: It's in the right at the entrance of the house, 326 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: like on the wall right there. It's like one of 327 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: my favorite things that I have in my house. And 328 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: I was like, thank god I asked for this. I'm 329 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: seethingly jealous. They literally took one of those things and 330 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: delivered it to my house. Guillermo, that makes me like 331 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: sleep better at night knowing that you have one of 332 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: the window panes. Yes, and our o P A conference 333 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: table desk is the main conference room table at Shondalin 334 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 1: Offices in Hollywood. Wait, I didn't know that, Yep. I 335 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: was there once before. COVID and I walked past the 336 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: big conference room and it's the op a conference table 337 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: that you and I boned on where we would hide 338 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: all our sides on the chairs and then we scooched 339 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: them into the table and we boned on that table. 340 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: We should did. We'll be right back, guys. Okay, Quinn 341 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: has one job. You all are working on the Madam case. 342 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: You're all trying to her not give up her list 343 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: to David Rosen of all the people in DC who 344 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: are sleeping with prostitutes. I simultaneous, I'm doing this b 345 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: story where I'm never supposed to let Amanda Tanner out 346 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: of my sight because we know that Gidey and Wallace, 347 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: who's a reporter from the Sun, has been sniffing around 348 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: and Olivia Pope doesn't want that getting out. So I'm 349 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: just supposed to be watching this girl. And Quinn's like, 350 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to watch this girl. And then Olivia 351 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: is like, don't let her out of your site and 352 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, right, don't let her out of your site. 353 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Don't let her an I say, don't let her, say 354 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: don't let her out of my sight. She's gone. How 355 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: the hell did you get out there that quickly? And 356 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: also is that allowed? Don't you have to be discharged? 357 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: And then I go to your office and I say, 358 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to barf. How do I find something that's 359 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: gone missing? And You're like, go check her house and 360 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh house, check her house, and it's already 361 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: you know what's so lovely? Also going back, it's already 362 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: like I can see what the writers were seeing about 363 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: Huck taking Quinn under his wing, like you can already see, 364 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: like I always go to you. Abby is just like 365 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: so meant Quinn. It's insane and great and lovely and 366 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: I love it and like Harrison just doesn't have time 367 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: because he's just like Mr Man about town and you're 368 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: really the only person. Yeah, that's the left that we'll 369 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: talk to her, Katie. Do you remember that we used 370 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: to talk while we were filming the show, like how 371 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: did how did the writers know? And how does Shanda 372 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: know our relationships? Because you and I started to get 373 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: really close and then we'd be like, are there microphones 374 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: like in our trailers? Like and then we'd see it 375 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: in the scripts reflected in the scripts, right, we were 376 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: like always they know they have got to have bugged 377 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: the makeup so onsets. Makeup trailers is where a lot 378 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: of ship talking gets done. And that's mostly because you're 379 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: there at five o'clock in the morning. You know, your 380 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: makeup and hair people are the ones that are closest 381 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: to your face at all times, like when you're on 382 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: your period, when you've had a rough night, when you're 383 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: like so, the makeup trailer just sort of becomes this place, 384 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: and I always like, this ship has got to be 385 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: bugged because we would talk about we would like have 386 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: relationships forming and like trust things happening, and then we 387 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: would see them a hundred percent reflected in scripts down 388 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: the road. Ye. Also, what we would do in the 389 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: trailer I was going to say was we were really 390 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: studious and we were drill lines. Well, we had to write. 391 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: We had to because we had to. We had to 392 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: scandal pace our dialogue, which I don't know if people 393 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: know we should say that it first started because the 394 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: scripts were so long, right, and there were so many 395 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: words that I think it was Shonda that said, you 396 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: guys have to talk fast to get all this stuff out, 397 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: and that's I think where it started. But then we all, 398 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: I think discovered little by little that the faster you 399 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: you speak, I mean, you know, the intention and the 400 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: we're still acting under the fast pace. But every time 401 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: it made that scene better, every single time, even beyond scandal. 402 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm on sets, I'm like, y'all got to speed 403 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: that ship up. And not only did we have to 404 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: have scandal pace, but we had to be word perfect. 405 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: This wasn't a show that you were like, hey, you know, 406 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: throwing an improv like that didn't happen on Scandal, which, 407 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: by the way, Gammadiaz brilliant improv actor from Dave Chappelle's 408 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: show God No, but yeah, I think we had to 409 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: drill lines. Yeah. In fact, when I watched these episodes back, 410 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: the amount of material Carrie Washington had, Oh my god. Yeah. 411 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: Most hour long scripts, I want to say, are like 412 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: fifty to sixty pages. Some of our scripts were eighty 413 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: nine fucking pages. That's really long. Crazy to think that 414 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: would fit in forty two minutes and shoot in nine days. 415 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: We would we would cut up and have fun and 416 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: laugh and do all that stuff on set, but most 417 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: of the time, I feel like we'd be like, let's 418 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: run lines, let's run lines. It was NonStop that we 419 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: were like, yo, let's run that scene, Let's run lines, 420 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: because we just wanted to get it right. We couldn't. 421 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: There was no room for, you know, to mess up. 422 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: And we were like that on each other. I mean, 423 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: I felt like we were all not goody two shoes, 424 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: but we all really believed in the show and wanted 425 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: to do a good job, and so everyone didn't want 426 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: to be the person in the scene to funk it up. 427 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: Because a lot of the o p A scenes are 428 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: like those theater scenes where you're in an ensemble you're 429 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: holding like tossing a volleyball up between all of your lines, 430 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: and if you're the dick that sucks up the take 431 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: because you go up and you forget the line, it 432 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: just made the take not usable for everybody else, And 433 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: like no one wanted to be that person. So it 434 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: was like we were all, can we run? Can we run? 435 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: Coming run? And I don't want to be the one 436 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: that like drops the ball. We have that whole monologue 437 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: where Olivia and I dropped my jaw down to the ground, 438 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: which I feel like it is really a poor acting 439 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: choice on my and Olivia says, slip your number in 440 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: the door. She's going to call you and it is 441 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: your job to get her to be our client. And 442 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh ship, And so I put the number down, 443 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: and she does call because Olivia's a genius and she 444 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen. And so Amanda Tanner and 445 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: I meet, I think, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, 446 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: and we get a glimpse into Quinn's past, which is 447 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Lindsay Dwyer and I say, Quinn says something like I 448 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: was in trouble once. A lot of people wanted to 449 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: I was in trouble. I was alone, and it was awful. 450 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Now you think we're getting a glimpse into Quinn Perkin's past, 451 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: But at that point the writer's room did not know 452 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: what Quinn's passed was. I always forget that they did 453 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: it right. Nobody knew where that was going to go. 454 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: They didn't know. Oh my god, they didn't know. So 455 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: what I think is interesting is that things were already 456 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: being built. But I also sometimes wonder if I had 457 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: played it differently, Like I played it as truth, like 458 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 1: Quinn does have this thing, this like secret, But I 459 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: could have played it as like I'm tricking her, like 460 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: I'm making it up right just to get it to 461 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: be a client. Yeah, because Olivia told me too, And 462 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: I always am like, wow, had I been playing that 463 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: with things have been different? Who knows. Hey, speaking of 464 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: the that scene at the Lincoln Memorial, we should talk 465 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: about how that we We shot the show in California, 466 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: in l A at some stages, at stake our stages. 467 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: But the c G I, what is it the green screen? 468 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: What is it considered c G I, the you know, 469 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: the backgrounds. I think so because when you see when 470 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: you see uh, the Lincoln Memorial and other you know, 471 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: historical sites in d C, like that's all green screen. 472 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: And and the team that did that were so freaking 473 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: talented too, because I remember remember people would come up 474 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: to us all the time and be like, you guys, 475 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: shoot the show in d C. People still think that now, yeah, 476 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: and we'd be like, no, it's green screen. They'd be 477 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: like what, because it's good. It's really it was really 478 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: really good, Like they did an amazing job. Yeah. We 479 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: would always be outside in parks all over l A 480 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: and then they would have this like massive green screen 481 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: that they would then superimpose, like you're saying, the gentleman 482 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: is in Memorial, Memorial, whatever the mall, and we would 483 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: be dressed in coats, sweating balls in California where it 484 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: never gets cold except for today. And Lynn Paulow we're 485 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: going to have her on too. She's an amazing costume designer. 486 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: Lynn Pallo. She I think just set the world. I 487 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: don't know if that was her choice or Shawn's choice 488 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: that it was just forever fall. I think it's like 489 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: forever fall, which means we're always in peak coats a scarf. 490 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: Olivia is obviously like in the most incredible gloves you've 491 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: ever seen in your entire life that go up to 492 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: her elbow. But most a lot of times we would 493 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: be in like a hundred and ten degrees in a 494 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: wool code having to act. I mean, the chief thing 495 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: that was going on in my pencil shirts. I deserve 496 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: all the acting awards people, And I wasn't freaking flannels, remember, 497 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: flannels and then a leather jacket on top of that, 498 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: and boots later on down the road. It used to 499 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: be like a war of like Lynn would be like, well, 500 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: we can't, we need to have different flannels on quinnin 501 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: hot That's right, that's right. We started dressing started dressing 502 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: us very much alike you were in in in freaking 503 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: black leather boots and leather jackets and flannels and yeah 504 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: you love that though, right I can't. Yeah, it was 505 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: so sexy. We'll get there. That's how the should I talk? Yes, 506 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: we'll get there. I did too, Okay, how Sharon Marquette 507 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: gets off is Olivia staring at the board, which, by 508 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: the way, that's what we call that glass wall that 509 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: we put up the cases and all the people's pictures. 510 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: We called it like who's at the board. So Olivia 511 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: is staring at the board, at the board, and she 512 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: has this brilliant idea. Let's call all these douchebags. Let's 513 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: call all these dudes to the table and say like, look, guys, 514 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: this is all going to come out in your life 515 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: is screwed. Unless we all pool together our resources, we're 516 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: all trifling. Bill Withers comes on, call me Mr Pitiful. 517 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Best song ever. I love the soundtrack of this entire show, 518 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: especially this episode. And Harrison goes around and he's like, 519 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: hey Wooden Floors, Hey you, hey, sunny Coat whatever. That 520 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: music montage scene is the best. And and Harrison Man 521 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: harr Wison is the dude like, I'm like in love 522 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: with him. He's so love Columbus Short is so freaking 523 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: cool and good and sexy and sexy, and and he's 524 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: flipping his phone and he's walking the walk and he's 525 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: solving the cases and he's out there and they're playing 526 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: fucking awesome music and he's just makes it look effortless, 527 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: so so good, so good love Columbus. So they all 528 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: come in and they get Sharon Marquette off praise b 529 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: We cut two fits wasted in the Oval, and he's 530 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: on the seal and he's in a scene with Cyrus 531 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: and he tells Cyrus like, I love Olivia Pope. We're 532 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: not talking about this tomorrow, but I'm in love with 533 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: Olivia Pope. I mean he's whipped, he got whipped. He's 534 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: so whipped. And at those in those beginning times, like 535 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: especially episode two, this early on in the in the series, 536 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: I just feel like it was such separate shows. Like 537 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: we never went over there. They never came over to us. 538 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: We only saw them at table reads. Yeah there, we remember, 539 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean moving forward, you know, closer to other seasons, 540 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: we'd have our characters have eventually sometimes go to the 541 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: White House. But it was such a big deal for us, 542 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: right we'd be like, oh my god, we're gonna be 543 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: at the White House. I can't believe I'm acting with 544 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: bellamre with with Jeff or Tony. Yeah, because we never 545 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: we never you know, encountered them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It 546 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: was two separate worlds, completely, two separate worlds, and ours 547 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: and ours was better. Oh like anyway, I'm just saying 548 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: yeah and cuter, I think before we were really going 549 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: over there, and maybe even before we really started to 550 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: have storylines intermingle Tony came over and we would he 551 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: directed an episode or two, and he'd always like hate 552 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: love directing O P A. Because he would be like, 553 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: what the fun, Like you guys, you gotta focus, stop singing, 554 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: stop dancing, like Columbus Short is the best dancer ever. 555 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: He liked choreographed. Whitney spears like a world tour she 556 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: had like a million years ago, Like he's an amazing mover, 557 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: and if like it's even you can even see it 558 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: in this episode when he like anytime he solves a case, 559 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: the way he walks, the way he handles his props, 560 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: his phones, it's like fucking cool. And I just think 561 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: when Tony came over, he was in shock at like 562 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: not that we're unprofessional, we're just better, but I remember 563 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 1: that he was like he felt like he was like 564 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: a substitute teacher who was like you know, and the 565 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: kids were just out of control, like you could not 566 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: get us to stop talking. But you were the best, Katie. 567 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: You were. I remember you. We'd be like talking and 568 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: then they'd be like okay, rolling, but you still be 569 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: talking about and then like close to actually be like, Olivia, 570 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: I need to go to that. You were so good 571 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: at going from like you know what I mean, from 572 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: reality to like, Quinn, you were so good at it. 573 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm so honored you were so so good at it. Okay, 574 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: So we talked about the Lincoln memorial part, and then 575 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: the end of the episode is that Gideon walks in 576 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: and Amanda Tanna is there and she's now become our client, 577 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: and she's like, you don't have a story, and he's like, well, 578 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure, but now that I've just walked in 579 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: here and aman Tanna is here and you're here, now 580 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: I do what a freaking turd? Right? I was like, 581 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: you're a little turd. Like he's so annoying in this episode. 582 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: I was like a little bitch, like what is wrong? 583 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: Who's this? Is that your best friend? Did she just 584 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: try to kill herself? Oh? Wow? Or whatever? The hell? 585 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: When he walks in and he's saying, Quinn like, oh yeah, yeah, Well, 586 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: you know what's funny. When I first met Gideon, who's 587 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: an amazing actor, he's he's doing this is what he needed. 588 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: He's an amazing actor. And by the way, do you 589 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: know who he's married to Gideon Wallace, who is played 590 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: by Brendan Hines. During the pandemic, married Tatiana mass Lani, 591 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: who played who is the leading Orphan Black. She won 592 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the Emmy for Orphan Black. Do you know I swear 593 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: that I was going to say the Russian ice skater. 594 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding, Oksana Bayou. I was thinking Oksana, 595 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: but I was like, that motherfucker married the Russian skater. 596 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm so dumb. Wait, No, Gideon did not marry Axana 597 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: by that's the stupidest thing. Oh God, I hope this 598 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: podcast comes out and we just start that rumor. Boy, 599 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: I hope she's okay. Well, she's okay, she's okay, but wait, 600 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: he married this lovely woman. He married Tatiana Muslani. No, 601 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: she's like literally one of the greatest actions of our time. 602 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: I know exactly who that is outstanding and they're both Canadian, 603 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: and I think there's like living this phenomenal life. Bless Gideon, 604 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: like I mean, bless Brendon hyd and bless that is 605 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: a rap on, I'm kidding. We will be back with 606 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: more after the break. Benito Unpacking the toolbox. Wait, how 607 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: do you say unpacking the tool box in Spanish. I 608 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: don't know, that's hard. I don't know something like that. Yeah, welcome, 609 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: welcome back, y'all. I remember coming to the Prospect offices 610 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: to read episode two when we had heard we were 611 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: picked up, and Sean is sitting down next to me 612 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: and being like, that's going to be your love interest, 613 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: like right there, Brendan Hines, and I remember being like, huh, 614 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: oh my god. It's not that he's so handsome and 615 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: like a great actor. I just was like not ready 616 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: to like have a love interest. I wasn't like comfortable yet. 617 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: I felt like, oh god, fuck, that's what Quinn's gonna 618 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: be doing. Oh no, I think your first one of 619 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: your first thoughts, which was for all of us, because 620 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: when I first found out that Huck was going to 621 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: have a love interest, was like, am I going to 622 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: have have my shirt off? Do I have to stop eating? 623 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: Do I need to work out? What the fuck are 624 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: they gonna have a shirt? Because it's scandals, so you 625 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: knew they were going to end up screwing right show people. 626 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: Fucking was on the table. I mean not cable, not 627 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: cable sex, not cable sex, but yeah, ten PM sex, 628 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: which is more than Grays at nine pm, and we 629 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: had all seen Grays. We knew we were going to 630 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: be pushing the envelope a little more than that. Yes, 631 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: So it wasn't that it was like, oh no, Brendan Hynes. 632 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: It was more like, oh no, wait, shit, I'm gonna 633 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: have a love interest. I'm gonna have to have to 634 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: be doing stuff like I didn't have a lot of 635 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: experience with that. But anyway, Gideon Wallace the tur Yes, 636 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: he's Turkish in the episode, and that he just is 637 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: like trying to uncover the case and it might be annoying. Yeah. 638 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: And also a little piece of information about Brendan Hynes 639 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: is that he did Lock and Key with Darby. He's 640 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: in that show with Darby. Yeah. Yeah, Well get on 641 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: board because Brendan Hines and Gideon Wallace are a big 642 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: part of season one. There's a lot going on, and 643 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking a lot about Brennan Hinz 644 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: and x Bayule and the rest of this season. The 645 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: Scandal Rewatch podcast Unpagging the Toolbox. Fun facts about the episode, 646 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: This is funny. We talked about the Stevie wonder of 647 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: it all and the songs which I feel like are perfect. 648 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: The episode was referenced in Jeopardy That's right, yeah, and 649 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: this I love. There's a small continuity error people. You know, 650 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: some of those Twitter fans are going to be like, oh, 651 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: I know that, My god. The continuity error is Patrick 652 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: Keating is the president's first Supreme Court justice nominee during 653 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: his presidency. But in season two, episode eight, Happy Birthday 654 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: as a President, we learned that as part of the 655 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: Defiance conspiracy deal, Verna Thornton was to receive a seat 656 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court, being fits his first Supreme Court 657 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: justice nominee in his term. We need to get someone 658 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: on this show because I think most writer's room have 659 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: not a dramatr but like a researcher, isn't there someone 660 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: in the room whose straight? But at some point that 661 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: stuff has to kind of go out the window and 662 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: there's got to be creative like light what is it 663 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: called creative license or whatever it's called, to just be 664 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: like you know what, like, yeah, that was that. But listen, 665 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: there's five freaking episodes like give us a break. Listen. 666 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Golden Girls fan, and in some episodes, 667 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: Blanche has you know, one daughter and then the other 668 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: one she's got two daughters and one of them is 669 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: named this, and then the names change and I'm like, 670 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: who cares. It's a great show, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, 671 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: stuff is continuity. Stuff is all screwed up on that show, 672 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: and I think I'm on great shows. Yeah. For example, 673 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: my first screen test was for Guiding Light, which is 674 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: like one or I don't think it's not anymore, but 675 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: it was like the longest running soap opera, and I 676 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: was coming on to test to just be someone else 677 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: who already existed in that role. Like that's how much 678 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: people don't give a ship. Oh yeah, that's where it started. 679 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: You're right. They were like, you're auditioning to play like 680 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: like Abby, like if I was going in and just 681 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: like you're just replacing Abby. She played the role for 682 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: twenty years and now she wants to retire or we 683 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: can't make ends meet in her contract or whatever, so 684 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: will you just come on and be this person? And 685 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: you're like wait what, like no care? Yeah, but the 686 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: audience somehow accepts it, right, Like they don't make a 687 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: big deal about it, and people just just accepted because 688 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, the show is still really great. Guiding 689 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: Like was an amazing show. You know what, I didn't 690 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: get that part. And guess who did Who This amazing 691 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: actress named Mellie Melissa Fumero, who was one of the 692 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: lead girls on Brooklyn nine nine and right now she's 693 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: on that show Blockbuster, and she's a wonderful working actress. 694 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: And we went to nd YU together and at the 695 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: time I was so bummed. I was like, I can't 696 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: believe she's replacing Aubrey or whatever. The character's name was, 697 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: a guying light and she like right out of the gate, 698 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: got like a four year contract on a soap opera 699 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: and like made money. God. I used to tell myself like, oh, whatever, 700 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to be pigeonholed into being a soap 701 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: opera actor because then that's all you'll ever be. Well, guys, 702 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: that's not true, because Melissa Favara is doing great. But 703 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: at the time, that's like it means so much writing 704 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: you're like, oh god, this would have meant the world. 705 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: But look at you now, look at you now played 706 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: Quinn on Scandal. Thank you? Oh my god. I just 707 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: heard back from the Queen herself, Shonda Rhymes, and I wrote, again, 708 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: why was Caroline Olivia Pope's middle name no presh doing 709 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: the podcast now three heart emojis, Oh no, and then 710 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: I added, is that your middle name or something? That's 711 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: what I remember. I remember being on set and someone 712 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: saying that this is Shonda's middle name. I am like, literally, 713 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: I'm making ship up that none of that is true. 714 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: She wrote, Nope, it just came out of my head 715 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: one day in writing the show. Wow, you heard it 716 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: here first, folks. Also, just so, just so everyone knows, 717 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: I do not have Shonda Rhyme's phone number. Go on, Katie, 718 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: go on, continue, I'm gonna give it to you. Please don't, 719 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: please don't. I don't want to send her something by 720 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: mistake and be like, oh my god. No. But I'm 721 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: going to bring it to all of you, all of 722 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: you listeners. I am going to bring you the good stuff. 723 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 1: I will reserve it and not text her anymore unless 724 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: it's unless it's def coon for all cylinders people, let's go, 725 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: but no, out of her brilliant head, Olivia Caroline Pope, 726 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: can we just sing the song we used to sing 727 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: whenever Olivia Pope O p A was handling a case. Pope, Pope, 728 00:39:52,440 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: Pope it out, uh, that's folks on and byu y'all. 729 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: Brendan Haynes, congratulations, May may your love last forever. But 730 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: before we go, like real quick, we got to read 731 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: some tweets at the time. You all know, all you 732 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: super fans, all you o G gladiators that are listening, 733 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: you know that Twitter was the backbone and party. Every 734 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: single Thursday night, ten pm East Coast time, Mountain time, 735 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: Pacific time, whatever fucking time. Twitter was going off, and 736 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: Gee and I thought it would be really funny if 737 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: we could go back and find any tweets because it's 738 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: such a time capsule. We have three here that I 739 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: they're not that great, but they're gonna get great. They're 740 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna get great. These tweets at the time are okay, 741 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: But I know this, this segment will pay off in 742 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: later episode. This is just the big inning. This is 743 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: when people are just starting to get there, like Twitter, 744 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: feet wet so all the way. In April twelfth of 745 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, Miss Cassia, who is at Savon Black, 746 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: quotes I'm a gladiator in a suit. I don't know 747 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: if it was her, but on Twitter and some fan 748 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter hashtag the first Gladiator as being like that's 749 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: the name of fans who watched Scandal, which stuck and 750 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: still sticks to this day. Like I have people come 751 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: up and they're like, no, no no, you don't get it, 752 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm a gladiator, Like I'm a gladiator, and I'm like, 753 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe you. They're like, no, I'm 754 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: like an O G gladiator. Like from the beginning, from 755 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: day one, I'm like, I believe you're a gladiator. I 756 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: need to get my groceries. I believe you are gladiator. 757 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: And then from that we change it to like gladiator 758 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: in pajamas, Gladiator in whatever, Gladiator in doctor Close, Gladie. 759 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: Like people would change it for whatever they needed. Bonnie 760 00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: Smith at Bond Bond Faboo on April twelve, twelve wrote, 761 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: Thursday night prime time is the place to watch strong, 762 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: intelligent women kicking ass and taking names freedom major pain 763 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: forty four. She retweeted Scandal, ABC, do you think Amanda 764 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: Town is telling the truth about her affair with the president? Uh? 765 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: Hashtag scandal. The president is a liar. He's a liar. 766 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: That's what she wrote. The President is a liar. He 767 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: is a freaking liar. Like it's in this episode there's 768 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: so many references to to, you know, the Monica Lewinsky 769 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton scandal as well. And Cyrus has a line 770 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: to the President in this episode Dirty Little Secrets, and 771 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: he says, don't don't Clinton talk to me or something 772 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: like that, and I thought I caught that yesterday when 773 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: I was rewatching it. I've watched this episode like twelve times. Um, 774 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: but I was like, oh, that's such a great line. 775 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: These tweets will get crazier and crazier. They have to 776 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: be like the nastiest, like crazy tweets ever. Right. I 777 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: spent a whole night on Twitter in one of the 778 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: episodes talk think about my ass, And I went to 779 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: work and I told Oliver Bockelberg, are amazing. DP. We 780 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: were doing some episode where there was a mansion and 781 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: they did a wide angle shot to show this is 782 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: what I tell myself. Did a wide angle shot to 783 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: show the mansion and my my the back of Quinn 784 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: is what walked us into the shot. And this was 785 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: insane what was shown on national television. And I spent 786 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: the entire episode just reading tweets about my butt. No yeah, 787 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: and like pent of them were complimentary and I'll take 788 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: it honey, I will take it. But but look, we're 789 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: just getting started on the Scandal rewatch podcast. I'm Packing 790 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: the Toolbox. This is we're just starting the unpacking at 791 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: the Toolbox. So like things are going to get crazy. 792 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: The series keeps getting more insane, intense, wild, so will 793 00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: this podcast. We're gonna about different shirts or no shirts 794 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: for some of the podcasts. I'm down. I love early 795 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 1: o g Scandal though, like I just am both psyched 796 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: to be on this ride with everybody listening and with you, Garmo. 797 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: I love you so much. But I'm so happy to 798 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: be watching these early episodes. They have such a fucking 799 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: place in my heart. We're literally reliving this experience right 800 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: like it's pretty We're pretty lucky. This is awesome. I'm 801 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: super excited. And again, this is just the beginning, y'all. 802 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: This is just episode two of Unpacking the Toolbox. And 803 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: next week come back listen to us talk about season 804 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: one episode three. Yes, y'all, please come back. The episode 805 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: is called hell Hath No Fury And if you want 806 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: to hear me and Katie like a tug shit and 807 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: cut up and crack up where we're crying, come back 808 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: and listen to the next episode. Yes, and listen and 809 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: tell your friends I'm talking to you. All you gladiators 810 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: out there o G. Gladiators and suits, Gladiators and doctor pants, 811 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: Gladiators and sweatpants, Gladiators with wine glasses, Gladiators on spin bikes, 812 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: Gladiators with popcorn. Whatever gladiator you find yourself to be, 813 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: current or in the past. Come be part of the 814 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: Scandal fam and tune in next week. Thank you so 815 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:26,479 Speaker 1: much for listening. I love you guard Hi guys, Thank 816 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox. If 817 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate, 818 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: or leave us a review. Scandal is executive produced by 819 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: Sandy Bailey, alex Alcha, Lauren Holman, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. 820 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: Our producer and editor is Vince to Johnny, with music 821 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: by Chad Fisher. 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