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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, What's Up?

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Speaker 1: This is Questlove, namesake of the Quest Love Supreme podcast,

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Speaker 1: the award winning Quest Love Supreme podcast, No No, No,

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Speaker 1: the Webby award winning Quest Love Yes, the three Times

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Speaker 1: I'm in the room right now with Sugar Steve, the

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Speaker 1: Multai Anyway, Welcome to QLs Classic and of course this

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Speaker 1: is one of my favorite subjects ever to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I love nothing else than to nerd out on Prince

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Speaker 1: conversations with fellow Prince fans. We did this episode back

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, I believe, and I think and.

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Speaker 2: Add a bit of trivia Steve. We did this at

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Speaker 2: the Record Plan was it or Sunset Sound. We did

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Speaker 2: this in Studio two at Sunset Sound. I believe, the

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Speaker 2: same room that Prince created a lot of nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Special episode. So it's sort of a purple roundtable. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, I got to have luminaries with me former

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Speaker 1: QL site boss Bill ruth of Art, Prince's former chief

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Speaker 1: of staff. Ruth is Art Duwayne Tadao, who wrote, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, probably two of the best kind of Prince

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Speaker 1: anthologies as far as like his creative process.

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Speaker 2: You need to get those two books. These are must haves.

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Speaker 1: The first one Prints in the Purple Rain Era Studio

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Speaker 1: Sessions and his follow up book, Prince in the Parade

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Speaker 1: and Sign of the Time Studio Sessions is kind of

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Speaker 1: a daily diary of how Prince created those three masterpiece

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Speaker 1: records and all the ensuing work he did in between

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Speaker 1: for his protege's at the time.

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Speaker 2: Was Sheila E and the Apollonius six and whatnot. Last,

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Speaker 2: but not least, that's you be talking.

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Speaker 1: World class photographer, and you know he's done stuff with

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Speaker 1: Chappelle and done stuff with Lady Kravit's, but you know

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Speaker 1: he's probably the biggest Prince fanatic and.

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Speaker 3: Collector.

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Speaker 2: He has just monstrous. I mean, just listen to the episode, y'all.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be this long. Welcome to the Purple Round

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Speaker 2: tae QLs Classic.

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Speaker 4: M You know, ladies and gentlemen, sometimes when the name

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Speaker 4: of the show that you host has your name in it,

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Speaker 4: sometimes you get to do things that you want. And

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Speaker 4: we're going to do an off the cover episode of

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Speaker 4: course Love Supreme right now, and we kind of have

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Speaker 4: a saw, say a Purple Supreme team committee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we kicked everybody else out in the studio and.

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Speaker 1: Proem no no, no disrespect to our team Supreme. But

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the I feel though, in my

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Speaker 1: life the two most dangerous things to have as far

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Speaker 1: as discussion concern is politics. Ever, yeah, politics pars in Purple,

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Speaker 1: and I try and avoid both, uh at least with

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Speaker 2: But somehow I felt very safe. I will say that.

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Speaker 3: This is uh a rare.

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Speaker 1: Moment which I'm certain that in the company of Prince

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Speaker 1: associates that I'm with that this is the moment in

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Speaker 1: which I know the least about Prince, and I'm actually

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Speaker 2: I'm actually fine.

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Speaker 1: So in our circle, of course, we have bost Bill uh,

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Speaker 1: producer of course of Supreme UH.

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Speaker 2: And to his left we have Ruth.

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Speaker 1: I know I got it wrong, Arsati. I've never said

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Speaker 1: your last name on life, even though I've known you

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Speaker 1: for eons. Ruth is you know, Ruth has been P's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I as knowing you as I know you.

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Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, if you've seen the bit that I did

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Speaker 1: about finding Nemo, Ruth was the person that had to

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Ruth is you know.

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Speaker 1: She she's a first hand witness to his hard work.

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Speaker 1: And we're glad you're here. And to her left we

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Speaker 6: Doll, I said, you said you put the wrong and

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So, and you know there's I feel

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always on dangerous the ground when

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Speaker 1: I just feel as though Dwayne's documentation of a Prince's work,

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Speaker 7: First book Princeton the Marine Eras Studio Sessions nineteen eighty

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Speaker 2: Eighty four, which he thoroughly. Yeah, I got questions for you, bruh.

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Speaker 1: And to his left Matthew Beton, Matthew Beton, the white guy.

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Speaker 2: From the Chapelle special with Them.

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Speaker 1: Book, Yeah, photographery Shortinar and I you know, I mean you,

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Speaker 1: your degree of purplelogy is above.

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Speaker 2: You know, I bound, your presence, your knowledge is amazing.

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Speaker 1: So just briefly and going in a circle, you know,

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Speaker 2: So Bill, when did you When did I first discover Prince? Yea,

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Speaker 6: Story I love to tell and I hate telling stories

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Speaker 6: about my life. My first memory ever is me in

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Speaker 6: And that is my very first memory.

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Speaker 6: I don't remember why I don't. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: How old were you in eighty two? Two going on three?

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Speaker 5: Encounter or memory memory? Well, I mean I grew up

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Speaker 2: What did you tell though? H? Yeah, I did well.

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Speaker 5: He just like rolled his eyes and I was like,

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Speaker 5: what you were like masturbating in a bathtub? Like what

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Speaker 7: And then in college nineteen ninety nine was the album

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Speaker 7: Just kind of a bunch of us just listened to that,

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Speaker 6: And I think you learned to do a little bit

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Speaker 7: True, And I and once I started seeing the depth

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Speaker 7: then you know Perverrain and Pervrain was the date movie

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Speaker 2: Ah, I see, Matt Well.

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Speaker 9: That's christ and I remember literally thinking, can we Carson

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Speaker 9: Fuck Michael Jackson, That's what I remember thinking. I was

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Speaker 2: That was my first traumatic prince movement. Because punishment. No,

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Speaker 1: When I heard I want to fuck you so bad

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Speaker 1: It's nineteen seventy eight, so I was seven years old

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Speaker 1: you just this blood curling scream and her on her knees,

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Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, no controversy was I said, definitely

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Speaker 1: So one, why did you when did this? When did

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Speaker 7: And so I got him and they've been great. They

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Speaker 7: This is the van Halen the doors. Led Zeppelin had

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Speaker 8: You should put it out.

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Speaker 7: And so I found a publisher and found a guy

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Speaker 8: And I tell you I'm s debt.

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Speaker 8: Oh I know, he's like, see me, he was coming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so small man, I'm like, yo, dog, I'm like

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Speaker 7: But he was uh so yeah, when when You've got

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Speaker 8: This is an honor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's important, like to me.

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Speaker 7: When I remember when was it cam that gave you

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Speaker 5: On the Chocolate Box.

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Speaker 8: So weird, we're having a brd off.

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Speaker 7: Oh god, it was probably the Chocolate Box, or or

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Speaker 9: It never gave it back and I was super pissed

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Speaker 6: Bill, mine was the ninety three Bagley's Warehouse after show

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I love, I love. I loved his guitar solo

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Speaker 7: I remember the PPML very well, and I remember AOL

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Speaker 2: Ended up working with Prince.

442
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 8: Yeah.

443
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: Bill and I have kind of this joke with each other.

444
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: He's mad at me because like in my head, I

445
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: always closed the door after eighty eight, like there's only

446
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: room in my heart from seventy eight to eighty eight. No,

447
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I have everything, and I acknowledge that there's

448
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: there's greatness even after eighty eight. But for me, just

449
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, the things that I hold near and deer

450
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: are just seventy eight eighty eight.

451
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 8: There's a big butt after eighty with you, and he.

452
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he always like puts something in my face like, yeah,

453
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: this is ninety four, you know, and I'm like, no,

454
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: here's the.

455
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 7: Thing is I had to write about those, it would

456
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 7: be a little tougher for me because my heart is

457
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 7: eighty to eighty one into eighty eight and maybe even

458
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 7: a little bit of eighty nine Love Sexy Tour Ending.

459
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 7: But after you know, Batman, I'm like Graffiti Bridge. I

460
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 7: was like, you know, in Diamonds and Pearls, he was

461
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 7: trying to be pop, and it was it's good for whatever.

462
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: It's enough.

463
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 8: I mean, exactly, exactly, exactly.

464
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: Four hundred songs are enough to write, and.

465
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 7: I was and I was totally good with that amount.

466
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 7: And if I just had to focus on that amount,

467
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 7: I'd be good, you know. But the you know, the

468
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 7: guy's got another thirty years after that, so.

469
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: You know, so Ruth, I have to ask.

470
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: Because during this particular period that we're talking about, I

471
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: know that a lot of his time and a lot

472
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: of his hours were in the studio and he kept

473
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: tireless hours of working around the clock or whatever. What

474
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: was his regiment from when did you first come aboard?

475
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: Right?

476
00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 5: As a musicology tour started twenty four two in three,

477
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 5: two thousand and four, and he, uh, you know Dave Hampton,

478
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 5: I think you know the engineer. He created this mobile

479
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 5: recording studio for him, so as he came into la

480
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 5: we would run out of places and he would be

481
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 5: up to all hours of the night. But specifically, one

482
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 5: memory I have that stands out. Uh we were it

483
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 5: was we were on a break from musicology and we

484
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 5: were in Minnesota and it was like the dead of winter.

485
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 5: And actually I made a comment to a friend on

486
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 5: the phone and I was like, damn, it is so

487
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: cold out here. My nipples could cut glass. And then

488
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 5: I'm not kidding. The next day I walked into Studio

489
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 5: A and he was playing a song called Glass. I

490
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: was like, motherfucker, did hear me? I was like, I

491
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 5: got paranoid. I got super paranoid after that. But I

492
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 5: was in there and I was like, oh my god, yeah, no,

493
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 5: he's like he was there's a couple of stories of him.

494
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 6: The entire building was was miked, right, Yeah, so there

495
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 6: was a rumor to that.

496
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: Yeah it was Mike, but it wasn't on and there

497
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 5: were no cameras there. There were never any surveys cameras.

498
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 5: But he would creep up on you and no listen.

499
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: He would I was. I was like, I was like,

500
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 5: there was like a Smashing Pumpkins gold album or something

501
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 5: on the wall. I'm like, Smadhing Pumpkin, what are they

502
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: doing there? And then I hear they recorded and I

503
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 5: was like, I screamed, and I'm like, why doesn't somebody

504
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 5: put a cow bell on you? And he's like, never mind.

505
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 5: He's like Kim, because Kim was with me and she

506
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 5: was doing his hair. At two in the morning anyway,

507
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: we were we were in the studio and I was like, damn,

508
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 5: I need to I need to go to sleep. And

509
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 5: it was three. It was about two in the morning

510
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 5: and we had been there since too in like maybe noon,

511
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: two in the afternoon. And he's like, Ruth, I want

512
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 5: a house and I'm like, uh, okay, what does that mean.

513
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 5: He's like, I want to run a house in La

514
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, so find me one. I'm like,

515
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 5: it's just like two in the morning. It's like, what

516
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 5: am I gonna do? So I go online. I end

517
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 5: up finding this house like within an hour, because he

518
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 5: comes back like he wants it now, so like he

519
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 5: comes back twenty minutes like I'm like, I just got

520
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 5: on the computer and he's like, okay, I'll be back.

521
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 5: And so I find this this home and it's it's

522
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 5: thirty one twenty one and then there's a street name

523
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: after that. I just don't want to like out where

524
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: it is, but he uh looks at it. It's the

525
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 5: title of the album. So he comes in, he looks

526
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: at them. He's like, have you found anything yet? And

527
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, it's been an hour. I

528
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 5: have like three I have three places so far. What

529
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: do you think. He sees the first image and it's

530
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 5: thirty one twenty one and he's like that one. I

531
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: want that one, and I'm like, you don't want to

532
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: look at the rest? Nope, Nope, that's it, and then

533
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 5: he goes in and by now it's like maybe three

534
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: in the morning, and he goes in the studio and

535
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 5: I hear like all the syncopation, and I hear like,

536
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 5: you know, the beats, and I'm like, when am I

537
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: going to be able to gold Man? I'm so sleepy,

538
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 5: and it's four in the morning, Like I get all

539
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: the information. I email, you know, the the agent for

540
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 5: this home, and he's like, do we have the house?

541
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: He comes back like at four and I'm like, do

542
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 5: we have the house yet? And I'm like no, it's

543
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 5: like three. It looks like two in the morning in La, No,

544
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 5: we don't have the house. And then he goes okay,

545
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: and then six in the morning I hear the fully

546
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: finished thirty one twenty one, the whole song Wow, So

547
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: it was pretty much done by four because I could

548
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 5: hear it, and I was like, that's kind of funky.

549
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 5: I really like that song. Actually, it was really funny

550
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: because you know, I got to hear because he would

551
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: open he left. It was just he and I at Paisley,

552
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: so he would leave the studio open, and I could

553
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: hear him like mix in and like you know, you

554
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: know the strains of you know, each instrument, and I

555
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: was like, what does he just does he just do that?

556
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Like just now now you have to find that house?

557
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, I was like, I was like, no, pressure here,

558
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: Like I have no pressure at all. But yeah, we

559
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: ended up we ended up moving into that house and

560
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: it was the start of like this whole era of

561
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 5: like house parties and madness and I hate it every

562
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: minute of it.

563
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: Parties.

564
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: You were hustling like who's in town. I'm like, like

565
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 5: I know, like I knew anybody that group of church,

566
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 5: Like I barely knew who people. When you guys are

567
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: speaking about bootlegs, it was all swakily to me, I

568
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: don't know what chea I was talking about.

569
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 8: Can I ask you a question?

570
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 7: Okay, you were talking about something and I want to

571
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 7: see what your take on this is a lot of

572
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 7: people have said that Prince had an energy that he

573
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 7: could either radiate attention that you had to stay at pettige,

574
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 7: or he could be under the radar completely like all

575
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 7: of a sudden, like you said, just show up.

576
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he was. It was interesting in clubs

577
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: because you could see him walk into a club and

578
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: you couldn't see him, but you could see the gravitational

579
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: pull of people just like it was like he drew

580
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: energy and attention and he would also take your soul,

581
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 5: so like if you were if you like talk to

582
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: him like sometimes you would talk to you and you

583
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: get a lecture for three hours and I'd.

584
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: Walk out the three You're lucky.

585
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: That's a that's a light night.

586
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the story behind that.

587
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: What's the I mean, you know what it's it's like

588
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: the whole be careful of your Yeah, like I caught

589
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean I joke and say that, you know when

590
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: black men find religion like lay low for like at

591
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: least three to five years because that's all they want

592
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: to talk about and then they cool off a little bit.

593
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I caught him right and period.

594
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 10: Man.

595
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: And then first it was like you just walk right

596
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: into the trap. Like the first night, I think it

597
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: was me who want to American Idol, the guy with

598
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: the fake afros that Justin.

599
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 8: He came in second he didn't win.

600
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well Justin loves what Justin Kelly? Yeah, yeah,

601
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: it was like Kelly, Justin, me and Common.

602
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: At as a random dog. We were in Harlem, somee

603
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: some Harlem, resting in a random place. Yeah, Justin Kelly

604
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: Clarkson Quest and Common walking to it's almost yeah, And

605
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: it started there and we thought we escaped it. And

606
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: then the next night that's when he came to Electric

607
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Ladies Studios.

608
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: We were working on Common.

609
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy was a rock star, and he heard the mix

610
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: and then almost borderline started quasi mixing. He's like, no, no, no,

611
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: turn up his voice and turned this down.

612
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: And then.

613
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: And then no, I mean he was cool. And then

614
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: he worked on Star sixty nine and then the only

615
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: way I can describe it is the front cover of

616
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: the Who's the Kids Are all Right?

617
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: Remember the four of them sleep on it? That was

618
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: me Blau Common and.

619
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: Ah, it was a fourth person I forget. But we

620
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: were just sitting on the floor and he was like

621
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: talking to us like a coach.

622
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: Like if you imagine.

623
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Remember those Tom and Jerry cartoons where you only see

624
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: the mom's like Niees Thomas or even Muppet babies, we

625
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: only see the nannies knees. Like we're all sitting on

626
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: the floor and he's just walking back and forth like

627
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: a coach, uh, talking about anyone's best.

628
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: Have you've seen this happen before, haven't you.

629
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: Blau was new to this and he's you know, Bla

630
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: was Muslim at the time, so it's just like Muslim

631
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 1: versus a. Jehovah's witness it was two am, and then

632
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: it was like six am, and I just thought like, man,

633
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: it's like you've been waiting all your life to be friends.

634
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: With this guy.

635
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 5: Like you guys didn't say anything.

636
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: I started snoring and he's still.

637
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like, sleep at me and snoring, like.

638
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: I grew up in church. So he couldn't go far.

639
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: He could not go far. He was like, don't start.

640
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: I'm like no, no, no, no, no. He's caughting some stuff

641
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 5: at it.

642
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

643
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: So then there was a period where he was like

644
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: Debo and Friday to me, Like there was a good

645
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: part of two thousand and one to like two thousand

646
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: and three where I would just run the other way.

647
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, you're running from your idol. Like I

648
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: just can't.

649
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I just couldn't. I couldn't take another because

650
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: he just wear you out. And you want to know

651
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: things like so the Lynn drumm you used on What's.

652
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Up with the Editor at the end of I don't

653
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: want to lose you? Right, exactly exactly. He don't want

654
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: to talk about that.

655
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: So and that's the thing when when the Night of

656
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, when Chappelle, me

657
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: and Neil Brennan went to see him perform at the

658
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: after party. Were you there doing the Spirit? Were we

659
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: friends then? Were in that hotel or that?

660
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: But I wasn't you. We hadn't met yet.

661
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say I would have remembered you.

662
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: And you know, he invited us to the hotel thing,

663
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: and so I didn't realize that the elevator opens up

664
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: inside the apartment.

665
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking that, okay, we're going to a hotel.

666
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: Elevator is going to open.

667
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: We'll be in a hallway and then we'll knock on

668
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: the door and YadA, YadA, YadA. So in typical television

669
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: sitcom fashion, my back is to the elevated door, and

670
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm trying to.

671
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: Give Dave and Neil advice.

672
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: A seventeen second crash course run, which I said, guys, wait,

673
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: I just thought of something. Look, he's really really big

674
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: on religion, so you know, because the thing was like

675
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: Neil was just like, hey, like okay, this is going

676
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: to be like I was like, no, like that prince

677
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: you're thinking of, like he doesn't exist a moren it's religion.

678
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: You know.

679
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 3: They laughed, like religion.

680
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm dead serious, like matter of fact,

681
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: I said, we need a safe word.

682
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: So the elevator doors closed.

683
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: I said, look, we need a safe work because what

684
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: you guys don't know is that he's going like really

685
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: big on religion and stuff and don't curse and da

686
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da.

687
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: And the door is open.

688
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: And I swear to God it and like they yeah,

689
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: he was like continuum mirror.

690
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: He was right behind me and it was.

691
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: But the thing is that what I didn't know about

692
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Dave is Dave lives for an audience, like the most awkward.

693
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: I went, Dave with me in any he can talk

694
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: you out in any situation.

695
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: I think Dave could talk. He could.

696
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm about to give me the helter Skelter reference. What's

697
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: his name who just recently done? He could talk Charles

698
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: Manson off of death Row and out of it. He

699
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: can talk out of any situation. And we walked into

700
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: what looked like to be a prayer meeting.

701
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: It was like the.

702
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: Crams his then wife, her Canadian family, and well her

703
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: family is from Canada, right, her family and instantly like

704
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give the eye like and Dave was

705
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: one of those people. Is where it's like if you

706
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: tell him no, it's a yesday.

707
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: He got right. He had a captive.

708
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: Audience, and then I just once religion started, then I

709
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: just inched my way out of it and left. But

710
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: those guys stayed till like seven in the morning, and.

711
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 6: I would have stuck around to watch Prince and Dave

712
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 6: Chappelle talk about her religion. I can only imagine what

713
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 6: that conversation was like, Man, I just interesting.

714
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

715
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 9: I mean I used to listen to it as a fan,

716
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 9: you know. I'd be like, Okay, I'm such a Prince fan.

717
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 9: I'm going to let him talk to me for three

718
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 9: hours about this stuff, you know. But I remember there

719
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 9: was a moment at that house, the thirty one to

720
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 9: twenty one house, where we were talking about you know,

721
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 9: not religion, talk about music and something else, and he's like,

722
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 9: follow me. I'm like, I finally orright, Prince said follow me,

723
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 9: and I walked. I walked through the whole house, long story, short,

724
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 9: down the stairs, through the room, end up in his

725
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 9: bedroom like all this shit.

726
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: He's got the.

727
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 9: Symbol pillows and the purple Da da da, and then

728
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 9: he opens a closet and hands me like a bible

729
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 9: and all this stuff. And I was like, man, I

730
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 9: thought he was gonna give me an ascetate.

731
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: Or I wish you have, you know, and.

732
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 8: I've been saving.

733
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he's like, I want you to read this

734
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 9: to your kids because we're that's why we were.

735
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: Talking about my children.

736
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 9: And I'm like and I was like, well, I'm Jewish

737
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 9: and I don't really do religion. And the next day

738
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 9: the next day, maybe Ruth, you gave him my address.

739
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 9: The next day people came knocking on the door.

740
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 5: Listen. I had a Jehovah when my door, and I

741
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 5: had boxes of bibles and tracks, and I was I

742
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: had been into I had got into a really big

743
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 5: fight with prince and I was like, oh we're here.

744
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what I work for, Jehovah's Witness.

745
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: Wy don't you come in the back and take your boxes.

746
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 5: I'm about to burn that will And she was like what,

747
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 5: oh no, and no, I'm like you can bring your supervisor.

748
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: You could come and talk to me about church and

749
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: like Bible and stuff. I know my Bible, but you like.

750
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: I was so mad. I took it out on the

751
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 5: poor lady.

752
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: Wait.

753
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 5: But they came in. They got the boxes of tracks.

754
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: Was there, ever, what was the end game to.

755
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: His religious talk or his wanting to convert, Like, was there, well,

756
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: was there one person that was like, okay, like I'm

757
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, Yes, I'll come with you the kingdom?

758
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: Was he? Like? What was the.

759
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: So so part of the you know, not to clown

760
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 5: on any religion or anything, but part of you know,

761
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 5: what they do is is they have to log in hours.

762
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 5: So your name at two's name, my name is in

763
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 5: a calendar. It says Ruth four hours, a mirror two

764
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 5: hours or twenty hours, you know, and it would say

765
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 5: he would write everybody's name down this calendar, so it

766
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 5: was kind of a log book of how many people

767
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 5: he spoke to about, you know, the religion and all that.

768
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like it is to convert people.

769
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 5: It's their ways of proselytizing. But you know, I would

770
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 5: I'm not a person. I'm kind of a mouthy individual.

771
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 5: So do you think really it's a little bits a

772
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 5: little bit. So I had to pick and choose the

773
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: stuff that I would you know, combat like with him

774
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: like that I would get into and that would be

775
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 5: one of them because it was like, you know, you can't.

776
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 5: You can't. I mean, you can't really talk. I grew

777
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 5: up in church an all and all like Pentecostal Zionists,

778
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 5: you know, Charismatic Methodists. I've gone to all of them,

779
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 5: and so you know, I understand part of the the

780
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: lull of religion. And I knew what he was doing,

781
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 5: and I was like, you can't, you can't, like you can't.

782
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: Swing me into this kingdom hallway.

783
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 5: Oh all the time. And I used to look at him. Okay,

784
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 5: so no diss to Jehovah's witness, but I am gonna

785
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 5: kind of diss. Their music is awful. It's all. It's

786
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 5: Bible verses with no no melody. It's like they sing

787
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 5: and Jesus came to the crap like it is. Like

788
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 5: I would look at Prince like I'm like, how are

789
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: you even listening to this? And he wouldn't sing it.

790
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: He would just look at it and he would just

791
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: kind of have his little finger with his little pinky

792
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 5: finger up and like follow the words in the hymn book.

793
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: And I was like, I'm dying. I don't even know

794
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: what your musical brain is doing right now. You're probably

795
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 5: like thing this to pieces and creating like a like

796
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 5: an opus of some kind, because this is terrible a question.

797
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 6: Is it true that he wrote a bunch of songs

798
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 6: for the Jehovah's Witnesses.

799
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 5: He has like I don't know that he did, but

800
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 5: I know that he wrote like a lot of songs

801
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 5: with overtures of you.

802
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 6: Know, but I heard like that he actually has songs

803
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 6: in like a in the Hymnal or Jehovah's witness Hymnal.

804
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: I could imagine like after spending.

805
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: Time, did you have an option to not go? Was

806
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: have had go? I'll stay behind her?

807
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you.

808
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: Know I.

809
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 5: Think that uh, like you know, I wasn't going to

810
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 5: church at the time, and like when I was in Minnesota,

811
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: I would just go because it's Minnesota. There's there's nothing

812
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 5: to do, so it might as well go to Kingdom

813
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 5: Hall and you know, just see, Yeah, I was very

814
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 5: curious about the religion itself, you know, coming up in church,

815
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 5: so I was curious to see what their belief systems

816
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: and how they believe. And you know, I've met a

817
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 5: lot of Jehovah's Witnesses are phenomenal people. And then you know,

818
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 5: just like in all of their religions, a lot of crappy,

819
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 5: shitty people as well. So, you know, had a bunch

820
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 5: of Jehovah's witnesses come to me at a at a show.

821
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 5: I think it was in Seattle somewhere, and they were

822
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: they were like, we're here for the after party, and

823
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 5: it was a super private after party and I'm like, uh,

824
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: there's no after party here. Well, we're friends and prince

825
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I don't know who you are. They're like, oh,

826
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 5: we're brothers and sisters.

827
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: He went.

828
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 5: By brother nilson brother, we're his brothers and sisters. I'm like, yeah, no,

829
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think so, oh no, we're Jehovah's witnesses.

830
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 5: And they wanted to get in based on that alone,

831
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, now you know.

832
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh I would have fell for that hook line to

833
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: thinking like oh.

834
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.

835
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: And I was like that's cool, be good.

836
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: I see so uh Dwayne, yes, sir. Yeah.

837
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: So in your in your research, how were you able

838
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: to find out as far as like the length of

839
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: time that songs were spent? Like this is one thing

840
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: to see the work order. And I guess I should

841
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: explain to our audience that, I mean, now, because half

842
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: the stuff is done on computers and personal studios. People

843
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: don't keep meticulous logging like they used to now. In

844
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: my era of having UH and and recording UH on

845
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: our label, like back in the early nineties when the

846
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Roots first got signed, the assistant's job was basically to snitch,

847
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So if the label's credit

848
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: card was on the room, they would know, okay, how

849
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: much we spent on food? Sure back then, long distance

850
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: phone calls were big. Yeah, like so like everything's you know, like, Okay,

851
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: I see a mirror called.

852
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: The how did you work on that song on the mirror?

853
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Like so all my time and all the

854
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: that I met and you're whatever, I'd like call from

855
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: the studio that sort of thing. So assistant engineer's job

856
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: was to keep meticulous detail of what we did and

857
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: how long we lily gagged and all those things. So

858
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: what I can I assume that these work orders were

859
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: in the same way.

860
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, A lot of times they would have you know,

861
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 7: and then like you said, this is also the work

862
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 7: orders are placed to hide things. They would be the

863
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 7: tattle things, but they'd also be like there's times that

864
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 7: he may worked in two or three songs, and they

865
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 7: just were just scrambling through things and just he would

866
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 7: write down a title. Often I would have to go

867
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 7: back to I went to the Library of Congress, went

868
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 7: to the unions that had musicians unions, because Eric Leeds

869
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 7: was in the Musician Junion. There's also Minneapolis Man Musicians Union,

870
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 7: which would list Sheila and other people like that. So

871
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 7: I could tell the time from that stuff, and also

872
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 7: when strings were done or when they bring a person

873
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 7: played harp. So there's all this little detail like that

874
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 7: because people had to get paid, you know, but the

875
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 7: work owners generally had start at this time end at

876
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 7: this time. But there'd be times that he would just

877
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 7: get to the studio and say Peggy, let's go see

878
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 7: a movie, and they go to the movies and come back,

879
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 7: or you know, he might step out for a couple

880
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 7: hours and personally mixing it. But that doesn't mean they're

881
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 7: doing it the whole time, and that that's where it

882
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 7: ends up getting a little vague.

883
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 8: People.

884
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 7: You know, when I first started doing the interviews in

885
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 7: like the early mid nineties, I remember asking some of

886
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 7: these people and they're like, I didn't think that some.

887
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 8: Prince nerd would be.

888
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 7: Coming in and asking me about something ten years ago.

889
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 7: Now I'm asking them, They're like, I didn't know some

890
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 7: prince near becoming and asking me about stuff having thirty

891
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 7: years ago so right, And memories get a little faded.

892
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 7: The you know, you work on stuff for five six

893
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 7: years with him, guy, you're not gonna remember specific dates.

894
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 7: But if you got somebody that just did strings, they

895
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 7: might remember that specific session a whole lot more than

896
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 7: somebody who's, like I said, Susan Rogers, who Susan Rodgers

897
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 7: got a phenomenal memory. She's and the cool thing about

898
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 7: Susan and you probably know this is she's got a

899
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 7: knowledge of sound on top of just her print spase.

900
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 7: She loves the funk, She loves a lot of stuff.

901
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 7: But the way she talks about how sound works, and

902
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 7: the sound is different at night than day, or you know,

903
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 7: just the way the music works, and you're just thinking, God,

904
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 7: that the level of knowledge from some of these people,

905
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 7: and the engineers I actually engineered. I interviewed some of

906
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 7: the engineers here in the studios where I'd come in

907
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 7: in the evening and talk to some of these engineers.

908
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 7: I'd find their name on the work order and in

909
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 7: This is before Facebook or anything. I just look him up,

910
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 7: call him on the phone book, or call here and say,

911
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 7: is Coke Rogers Coke Johnson working there? Yeah, Dave the

912
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 7: Blade is well, there's several Dave the Blades. Dave Leonard

913
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 7: is in h he was the original Dave the Blade.

914
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 7: He's in Nashville right now. I did not interview him.

915
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 8: We were going to.

916
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 7: He used to be married to Peggy McCreery and they

917
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 7: did a lot of such together. But he lives down there.

918
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 7: Then Dave Knight, David Knight became Dave the Blade and

919
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 7: he was one of the engineers here and also at Sunset.

920
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 8: What's the other studio that you have?

921
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 7: They have another studio here, yeah, Sunfactory, So he did

922
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 7: stuff there. He's interviewed in the book as well. I

923
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 7: used closed by Dev Leonard from other sources of the

924
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 7: books that he was interviewed or things like that too.

925
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 7: But I wanted to interview him but just didn't work out.

926
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm curious about the live shows that were.

927
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Sound trucked.

928
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the or the thirty minute I Would

929
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: Die for You, which obviously went to the soundtrack. Are

930
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 1: there any studio loggins for those sessions, and if that's

931
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: the case where the Purple Raine shows also recorded.

932
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 7: Purple Raine shows were all recorded for the most part

933
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 7: city well pretty much as far as I know, they're

934
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 7: mostly recorded.

935
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 8: Uh so there's there's here's the thing.

936
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 7: He's got vaults of stuff that well as first, I've

937
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 7: got tons of cassettes and stuff like this. The engineers

938
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 7: in the book talking about how everything was recorded to

939
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 7: maybe down to a cassette. So it may be already mixed.

940
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 7: You just got the mix of that. He may not

941
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 7: have a twenty four track recording left of all those things.

942
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 7: But from what I understand, he has tapes of of

943
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 7: every rehearsal, every sound check, and he'd have six or

944
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 7: seven tapes running the day and not labeled, you know,

945
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 7: just boxes. Here's the tape, and he just throwed things

946
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 7: in a shoe box. And so there's stuck. You know,

947
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 7: we don't know who some of these things are, what

948
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 7: dates these are, and so it's there's a novelty to

949
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 7: some of this stuff. And I talk about that quite

950
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 7: a bit in the book where some of these engineers

951
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 7: talking about all the stuff that exists.

952
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 5: So how I used to think that was a storage closet.

953
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: Have you physically seen the bout?

954
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been there. I'd be like, ah, this is

955
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 5: a big old storage closet.

956
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: How big is the vault?

957
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 8: There were two volts?

958
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 5: Yeah there too. There's like the opening section and then

959
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 5: there's stuff that there's like it's like a a teer,

960
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 5: like like a what do you call them? Like mudroom,

961
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: It's like a mudroom, and then the real room.

962
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 7: The other thing I've had to get information from is

963
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 7: like people like Eric Leeds and things like that would

964
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 7: have there's when they would record.

965
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 8: They would keep dates of.

966
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 7: When they were to record and stuff like this, So

967
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 7: that helped too. But again there's always gonna be stuff

968
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 7: in the vault that I have no idea about. And

969
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 7: and like when the Vraine Deluxe came out, we all

970
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 7: were shocked when uh.

971
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 8: The vocal possessed but electric intercourse.

972
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 7: All all of a sudd They're going a holy crap, right,

973
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 7: and Michael sitting there nodding his head, but you know,

974
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 7: all of us going WHOA, thank you, you know for

975
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 7: finding this, because that's something I didn't even know exist.

976
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: You know, what's weird.

977
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to hell for saying this, but

978
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: it was. It was always my fear.

979
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: That he you know, just in the last ten years.

980
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: Of his life. And this is you know, speaking from

981
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: you know. Of course you think like everybody's going to

982
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, be eighty and ninety. You know, they're going

983
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: to be super old. But I always thought that, man,

984
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: I know, one day he's going to turn like if

985
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: we think that some of his thinking is irrational.

986
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: Now, just as far as like.

987
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Certain cutting off the nose, despite the face moves that

988
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: Prince has done in the past to some of his

989
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: fan base.

990
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: Why would I do what? I'm just saying that it's

991
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: it's to me.

992
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: I always felt like he would pull a move like

993
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: some viking burning erase everything. Yes, I thought he would

994
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: pull a Willie on that whole entire, like in his

995
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: sixties or seventies.

996
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: And I was just.

997
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 7: Like, storing magnets what what what? No, No, it's saying

998
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 7: he was storing magnets in the room just to e

999
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 7: race everything.

1000
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he really didn't. He really didn't. I was

1001
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 8: just saying he could have. That's what he's saying.

1002
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying what you think I'm going to insinuate.

1003
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: As far as premature passing, but I definitely felt like.

1004
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: He would. First of all, I thought he would have

1005
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: a will.

1006
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 8: That's the thing that would say.

1007
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 5: We talked about it, so.

1008
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: It's earned everything if I had.

1009
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 8: Wait, you talked about what did?

1010
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 5: What was said, Well, he didn't want to at the time,

1011
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: he didn't want to write a will. And I was

1012
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 5: like yeah, because there was at Baisley Park and I

1013
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 5: yelled at him like, well, you know, who's going to

1014
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 5: get all your stuff? And he came. He double backed

1015
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 5: and he's like who, And I'm like the government in

1016
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: the world and you walked out of the office. But

1017
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 5: you know, we did talk about it because I was

1018
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 5: really concerned because he didn't have a will.

1019
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you because I mean more,

1020
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: mortality is something that people don't want to deal with or.

1021
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: Talk about even now.

1022
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I I have a will, but it was

1023
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: sort of like an afterthought thing like yeah, just leave

1024
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: it to them.

1025
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't care. You know, I'm not gonna die. I'll

1026
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: be here forever. But now I'm like, okay, I would

1027
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 2: like my records to go here.

1028
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: I want my unreleased drum stuff to go here. I

1029
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: want to donate this stuff here.

1030
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stu, get that notebook.

1031
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: No, it's just that now as I get closer to

1032
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, get you know, way out of my twenties. Now,

1033
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: oh okay, this death is going to be a certain

1034
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: thing in my life, like I'm definitely going to die

1035
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: and so, you know, but I guess at the time,

1036
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: you just put it off and put it off and

1037
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: put it off, and it'll never happen to me.

1038
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: It'll never happen. And you know, because.

1039
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: For anyone asking like how could he never have a will?

1040
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: Like you just you never think you're.

1041
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 5: Going to go right, Well, part of his reasoning also

1042
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 5: is like you whatever you think is true. So if

1043
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 5: you're if you create a will, it means that you're

1044
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 5: you're plantasting your death. So that was a big thing

1045
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 5: about it, and we had a discussion about that. He

1046
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 5: told me he wants he was from another planet and

1047
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 5: that's why he didn't age because the sun revolved like

1048
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: I don't know, twelve years every twelve years. And he's like,

1049
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 5: I think you're from that planet too, And I was like,

1050
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 5: do let me call him an alien with your alien

1051
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 5: as I'm like, you keep your alien stuff to yourself.

1052
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 5: But he yeah, a lot of it was denial and

1053
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 5: not wanting to face a in future. But you know,

1054
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 5: he carried around on those keys to the vaults like

1055
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 5: you know, a janitor always had him on them.

1056
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: And then there was only one set of keys.

1057
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 5: You know, there was only one set quote unquote, but

1058
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: there was another set that somebody else had.

1059
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: So what if he lost those keys?

1060
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 8: It was here's the thing. Yeah, the wall next to

1061
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 8: it was just a drive.

1062
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 5: You could break into Paisley Park. It was so like

1063
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 5: not secured, no cameras. Still no cameras. Sure they put

1064
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 5: cameras in.

1065
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: Now that that was the reasoning, right, It's Minnesota. Who's

1066
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: going to yah?

1067
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 5: No, seriously, He's like only it's He's like, all the

1068
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 5: no evil people live here.

1069
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 8: The bad people move out.

1070
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1071
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 6: He had a story about I guess they went to

1072
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 6: like a convenience store or something and he left the car.

1073
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 6: They left the car running, and Prince was like, yeah,

1074
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 6: because nobody would steal it.

1075
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, it's true, like you know we

1076
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 5: would go into uh, what was it, what's the store there? No,

1077
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 5: what's the name of the store there. I totally forgot

1078
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 5: Barney's or I think it is Birelers. Is it barrels?

1079
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 8: Is that important?

1080
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 5: No, it's a store in Shanahassan like, but you would

1081
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 5: walk in there and if you were brown, they knew

1082
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 5: exactly what you were doing there. Oh you were working

1083
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 5: at Paisley Park? Are you people? I'm like, uh, yeah,

1084
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 5: how do you know that? And then I realized and like, oh,

1085
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 5: you look like you worked there, And I was like, okay,

1086
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 5: stereotyping over here.

1087
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: That I see. So how.

1088
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 7: Also, the vault was not kept up very well. I

1089
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 7: mean there's no, it's not.

1090
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: It was.

1091
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 8: It was not a place where there's yeah, one of

1092
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 8: that stuff has damage.

1093
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: But I know that they did, Wait, what's damaged?

1094
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 8: Tapes?

1095
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: Tapes?

1096
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they reconstructed it.

1097
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a water leak one year and they

1098
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 7: were they were having to put the tapes somewhere else.

1099
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 8: Because it just it was not it was mold. Yes,

1100
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 8: it was on a.

1101
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 7: Good vault, and that what they're doing now really does

1102
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 7: make sense.

1103
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 5: But it's funny that the family said that, you know

1104
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 5: that they shouldn't move it too Iron Mountain. That is

1105
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 5: the number one thing that should have been done.

1106
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 7: Reason why it was kept. That people want it kept.

1107
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 7: The Paisleys for nostalgia.

1108
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was going to all of it, yeah.

1109
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 8: Exactly, would have been worthless.

1110
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1111
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, they managed to save I think ninety eight percent

1112
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 5: of it.

1113
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are now obsessed with that.

1114
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 8: It's that twenty seconds that made the song.

1115
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to sleep now.

1116
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 7: Tossing and turning, learned that poem figure out.

1117
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 8: I have a question.

1118
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 7: I have a question for you. You you look through

1119
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 7: the book, what is your opinion of the book? And

1120
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 7: you're you're as big a scholar of this kind of

1121
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 7: stuff as I know, and I want to know what

1122
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 7: your thought of the book is.

1123
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 8: What did you like?

1124
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: See?

1125
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: The thing is is that, Okay, it's weird because even

1126
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: when first of all, the book is like, what's seven hundred.

1127
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 8: It's not about five hundred page okay.

1128
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: So maybe when I was reading all my think it

1129
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: was like seven hundred something pages.

1130
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: I went through there. All right, Well here's the weird thing.

1131
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: I think from the time that you guys sent me

1132
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: the document, I easily think the first night I went

1133
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: through four hundred pages.

1134
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And that's the thing. I felt ashamed,

1135
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: like I went.

1136
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 5: From like shit, I'm gonn write down my story.

1137
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: I went from ten a m. Till about I think

1138
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: I gave up at like seven in the morning.

1139
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 7: You're already the busiest guy on the plane, right, I

1140
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 7: can't imagine having time.

1141
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: But I just couldn't put it down.

1142
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 6: It was the same way for me because I was

1143
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 6: started reading and the next thing I knew the sun

1144
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 6: was up, you know.

1145
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 8: So like working in the studio with Prince.

1146
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: And I knew I was on something because I know

1147
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: that I have a tendency at least of my friends,

1148
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: like over exaggerate some shit. And I told him like, yo, like,

1149
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: this is the book we've been waiting for, Like this

1150
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: is the moment, I think. And the thing is is

1151
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: that I don't know because I tried to explain this

1152
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: to my management my people, like, yo, this is the

1153
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: Prince book I've been dreaming of all my life, like

1154
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: I could never write a book like and they looked

1155
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: at it and they were just like whatever, Okay. So

1156
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: he went to seven eleven on July. When I got here,

1157
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: the first thing he ran to the basketball court.

1158
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 8: I ran to the basketball court.

1159
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: I ran to the seven eleven that sort of thing.

1160
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just again, I'm I I've never been.

1161
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: Into who he was dating, or even the outcome of

1162
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: a thing. I'm always obsessed with how he built stuff.

1163
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: And for me, a lot of my question anything that

1164
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: I would ever try to ask him was like in that.

1165
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 8: Book, so you learn things?

1166
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I learned a lot.

1167
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 8: I mean I because you know a lot. So to

1168
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 8: hear that you actually got some out of it makes

1169
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 8: me really happy.

1170
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Dog, I'm waiting for it. Like it's how many books

1171
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: do you think you would have in you.

1172
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 7: I'd be happy to write books at the end of

1173
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 7: my till the end of my life on this stuff because.

1174
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: It's my hope that the quote powers that be well

1175
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: least see this.

1176
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: And because again I think that if you're coming from

1177
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: a nonsensationalist, respectful angle like I think, it's just important

1178
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: to document how the greatness was me.

1179
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 7: Well in this book some people who haven't read it.

1180
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 7: This covers two years of his life eighty nineteen eighty three,

1181
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty four. It's the ninety nine nine just has

1182
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: come out and it's it's just starting to hit covers

1183
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 7: Purple Rain cover the beginning of nineteen eighty four is

1184
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 7: recording Sheila's album The Time. The rest of Purple Rain

1185
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 7: appalonis six the family that summer. That's like, that's within

1186
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 7: like six months, you know, two years, that's that's no.

1187
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 8: That's that's all six months.

1188
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1189
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 8: It's insane, mostly himself.

1190
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 7: And so when you see the kind of passion the

1191
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 7: guy had for doing this stuff, and then we're sitting

1192
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 7: in the studio thinking it was in this building that

1193
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 7: he did the stuff, it's to me, it's I mean,

1194
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 7: I went back and listened to the music again, just

1195
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 7: over and over, and it was cool to listen to

1196
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 7: it with a fresh ear because after he died, it's

1197
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 7: it's tough to listen to his stuff without through the

1198
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 7: prism of the fact that he's dead hearing it again

1199
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 7: through after reading the book, you're going that's where it

1200
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 7: goes back and and you're hearing it for the first

1201
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 7: time again. And that's that's something I didn't expect.

1202
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: We should note that as even though this is coming

1203
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: on way later as of this taping, I think we're

1204
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 1: falling into the actual thirty fifth anniversary of.

1205
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: Oh Yeah, Little Rick Corvette.

1206
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: The edits edits for the twelve inch which what January

1207
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: or January seventh, Yeah, very good.

1208
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: I looked it up. In your book.

1209
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 5: In your book, question for Dwayne, actually, if I can,

1210
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 5: if I may so, Like, you know, that's like a

1211
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 5: lot of information.

1212
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: This amazing because like Ruth, the thing was, Ruth was

1213
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: such a position to get this information. But it's so

1214
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: amazing to me in all my years of knowing her,

1215
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you're so not a fan like.

1216
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: And she doesn't have an idea.

1217
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: Of like and a lot of women that are in

1218
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: Prince's life, especially in the last ten years of his life.

1219
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: It's just like.

1220
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 8: Ask Kim Berry about his music. She likes it, but

1221
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 8: she's not a big fan. Same thing. It's like there's

1222
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 8: a lot of people around.

1223
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: A little it's almost like it's a whole other person.

1224
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 5: Part of it is I knew I knew Prince the

1225
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 5: person musicians.

1226
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: I knew him.

1227
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 5: I saw him. I was like, I interacted, but you

1228
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 5: know that musician dude was such a pain in the ass.

1229
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, but my question to you is

1230
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 5: because you know I know what I and you know

1231
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 5: I there was so much that I wish I had

1232
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 5: the fort like you know, I had to Sam Jennings

1233
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 5: was actually in the house in one of the houses

1234
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 5: and when he was there. It was Wendy and Lisa

1235
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 5: and they came up with their acoustic guitars and he

1236
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 5: hadn't seen them in years. And they sat around and

1237
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 5: they played this beautiful melodic song and I'm like, what

1238
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 5: is that song?

1239
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 11: Sam?

1240
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 5: And he's like, it's a song called Mountains, and I'm like,

1241
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 5: it's really pretty, but I gotta work, like I gotta

1242
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 5: go pleaan his bedroom like like you know, like I couldn't.

1243
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 10: Like.

1244
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 5: I was like, it was really pretty and I wanted

1245
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 5: to sit and observe, and I knew I was missing

1246
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 5: out on something, but I was like, ah, I want

1247
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 5: to go to sleep. I need to go. I need

1248
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 5: to like, you know, I slept like two hours a night,

1249
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 5: so I needed to have some kind of rest. But

1250
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 5: my question to you is how much of it do

1251
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 5: you think? Because for me, I saw different parts of it.

1252
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 5: And you know, I also talked to princes a lot,

1253
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 5: Like he talked about retiring from music and I was like,

1254
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 5: shut up, you know that's not happening, and he's like no,

1255
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 5: and he's like he's like, I've done everything there is

1256
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: to do music. And I'm like, you don't have an Emmy,

1257
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 5: you don't have a tony you don't have like it

1258
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 5: started naming all. Yeah, I was like named off stuff.

1259
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 5: But my question to you is how much do you

1260
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 5: think was passion and how much do you think was compulsion?

1261
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 7: Wow, I think I think his passion shows through on

1262
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 7: some songs. I think you can hear when he's inspired,

1263
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 7: and I think that compulsion would be like Velvet Kitty

1264
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 7: Cat and things like that. Yeah, there's gonna be there's

1265
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 7: songs that are obligatory.

1266
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 8: I think.

1267
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 7: I think to me, what I understood having talked to everybody,

1268
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 7: is he just had stuff in him he had to

1269
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 7: get out. And sometimes he'd be in the studio and

1270
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 7: just kind of record this traffic jam and that would

1271
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 7: be it and it would be like got to get

1272
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 7: this out and to be able to get But there's

1273
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 7: the inspiration when you hear that. You can hear that,

1274
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,479
Speaker 7: you know when something he elevates that he spends time

1275
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 7: on too.

1276
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 5: I mean a question, Oh, I just had a really

1277
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 5: quick question for all the nerd prince spots here. So

1278
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 5: that's all that's everybody here. So Prince told me a

1279
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 5: story New Year's Eve, maybe like in I think it

1280
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 5: was two thousand and two thousand and nine, and basically

1281
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 5: he was talking about she's always in my hair. I'm

1282
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 5: told my too this and and I was like, oh,

1283
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 5: and I had somebody had already told me it was

1284
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 5: about a protege of his. I couldn't remember Jill Johnes. Okay,

1285
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 5: so I didn't remember the name of it. I'm like,

1286
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 5: isn't this about a protege of yours? Because they played

1287
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 5: the song. We were at the Roosevelt Club med Bruce was.

1288
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 5: We'd gone in and like, actually Raoul called me and

1289
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 5: was like, you need to come because Prince is here

1290
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 5: by himself. And I'm like, oh man, I'm already in bed.

1291
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 5: So I got dressed and like so we had like

1292
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 5: this very interesting conversation New Year's Eve, and basically the

1293
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 5: song came on and I'm like, oh, isn't this about

1294
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 5: like a protege of yours? And he's like Jill Jones.

1295
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 5: He's like, no, not her, It's.

1296
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 8: Not here's the thing he did about Susan.

1297
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: No.

1298
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 5: No, he said it was about an assistant that he

1299
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 5: had at the time, Teres. I don't know who.

1300
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1301
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 5: I can't remember the name.

1302
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 8: Well, because I.

1303
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: Asked Teresa and she was like I've never heard that story.

1304
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 5: Okay, so he said, and I'm like what, and he's like, yeah,

1305
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 5: she used to hound me about like making sure that

1306
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 5: I ate, making sure that like you know that I

1307
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 5: was okay, and then I was rested and she went

1308
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 5: away like somebody and her family got sick or something. Somebody,

1309
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 5: but they did that.

1310
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 8: That's the story for nothing compared. But I haven't heard

1311
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 8: that for she's always in my hair.

1312
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: No, nothing was about rand but the chef, no.

1313
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 7: Sandy, Sandy, and it was also well Jerome says it

1314
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 7: was about somebody. And and there's somebody else that said

1315
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 7: it was about them.

1316
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 8: I don't I don't know. I mean, here's the thing

1317
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 8: with any sort of our artist.

1318
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 5: And and but by the way, I've heard him lie

1319
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 5: to women and say that the songs and wrote about it.

1320
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: Everything.

1321
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 7: Everything i've heard is when you're doing this stuff, and

1322
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 7: and Jill said this, and several people said this, a

1323
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 7: lot of his music he'd do to meet women and

1324
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 7: things like that, or he'd be inspired. But just because

1325
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 7: he writes he may be inspired by one person, that

1326
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 7: doesn't mean everything in the song is by inspired that

1327
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 7: one person. You know, wonderful ass may be about Vanity,

1328
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 7: but it also may be about Sanna Melvoyn could be

1329
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 7: about the cat having a wonderful ass exactly.

1330
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 9: He told me that song was about me.

1331
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 5: Too, I'm sorry to tell you.

1332
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 7: But so any sort of any sort of I tried

1333
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 7: to put whenever there was a thing that he had

1334
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 7: said or other people were saying it. But he was

1335
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 7: very adamant about beautiful ones not being about Susannah and they.

1336
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 7: Sometimes I found that, And I didn't know Prince, but

1337
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 7: I found that sometimes he would get angry and vengeful

1338
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 7: about people claiming that there.

1339
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 8: Was about them.

1340
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: And that's true.

1341
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 5: That's he would kind of just he would just say

1342
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 5: he would he would take it even if.

1343
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 8: You don't know me.

1344
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 5: There was a story about like how quest love to

1345
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 5: save the super Bowl. Speaking of super Bowl, Yeah, so

1346
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 5: but one of the the story.

1347
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't believe this story, by the way, I

1348
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: think you just do it to make me feel.

1349
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 5: No, I don't. So this is this is a true story.

1350
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 5: Like I've told mat too, and I've told like maybe

1351
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 5: two or three other people. This is a true story. So, uh,

1352
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 5: Prince and I got into a fight and I was

1353
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 5: that was banished from going to the super Bowl. So

1354
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:42,879
Speaker 5: I was like, yes, wait.

1355
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: Time out, time out before you tell the story. And

1356
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm trying to deflect the story because it's very silly

1357
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: to non playing.

1358
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 2: But you're allowed to fight, like you That's the thing.

1359
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: That's how I know you're not a.

1360
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: Fan, because it's everyone that would know the history of

1361
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: or at least a fan of Prince would sort of

1362
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: have this kid gloves approach.

1363
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: And you were just like, eh, I don't care, Yeah,

1364
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: prob why you got the job?

1365
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 9: Well?

1366
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, like, you know, I deal with

1367
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 5: people who are very creative and very volatile and mercurial,

1368
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 5: but also you know, genuine. These are people that I

1369
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 5: actually like, and you know, Prince was just another one

1370
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,919
Speaker 5: of those type of individuals. And so what I noticed

1371
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 5: is it's kind of like with a child or with

1372
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 5: an animal, a small animal, like you kind of have

1373
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 5: to break you kind of have to show them who's

1374
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 5: the boss, otherwise they will take advantage of you. And

1375
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 5: I had already learned that I and I already had

1376
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 5: my you know, my mom is Craig Gray, So like

1377
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 5: I had already I learned from early on, you know,

1378
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 5: how to handle that sort of situation. So I was

1379
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 5: in a unique position in order to deal with him.

1380
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 5: And so actually one of the people that I work with,

1381
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 5: who's worked with him for almost thirty years, was like,

1382
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 5: you talked to he overheard me talking to him, because

1383
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 5: I never to him out of turn unless it was

1384
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 5: just he and I. I never like I was never

1385
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 5: really never in front of people. Never in front of people.

1386
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 5: It was always very you know, I was very respectful

1387
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 5: and diplomatic and professional because that's what he needed. He

1388
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 5: needed professional people around him and he didn't have a

1389
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 5: lot of that. And one of the my coworkers was like,

1390
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 5: you talk to Prince like that? And I'm like, like what.

1391
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 5: And he's like, like, you give him your opinion and stuff,

1392
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh my god, how do you think

1393
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 5: I get my job done? Like I got to, like,

1394
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 5: you know, he gives me a lot of autonomy, but I

1395
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 5: also have to, like, you know, move forward with I

1396
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 5: have to ask him questions. I have to and you know,

1397
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 5: when I think that there's a mistake happening, I pay

1398
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 5: the price for it. But I have to be vocal,

1399
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 5: and so I've been. I was always very vocal about Prince,

1400
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 5: and I have no regrets about my time with him.

1401
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 7: There's sorry, there's a there's a story i'd heard secondhand

1402
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 7: about an editor who came up to Minneapolis. He flew

1403
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 7: him up to Minneapolis to cut a music video for him,

1404
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 7: and supposely he was doing the music video and Prince

1405
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 7: came in and said, okay to look at and said,

1406
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 7: where's my red hat in the video? And the guy said, well,

1407
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 7: I thought the red hat looked kind of kind of silly,

1408
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 7: and Prince at all okay. And at the end of

1409
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 7: the day, the guys go back to his room and

1410
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 7: his bags packed, and he's got a ticket out of

1411
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 7: town on the top of his lugage that they'd already

1412
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 7: sent him back home. So she's like, well, like, I'm

1413
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 7: not supposed to have my opinion heard here. So the

1414
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 7: fact that you got your you know, but you're probably

1415
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 7: a lot cutter than that.

1416
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 9: He knew though, that you were, that you cared because

1417
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 9: even years after, years after you guys stopped working together,

1418
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 9: and I was with him and Lenny somewhere and I

1419
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 9: mentioned you and he was like you could see, he

1420
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 9: was like, oh, how is I totally called you after?

1421
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 9: Like how is Ruth?

1422
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: You know?

1423
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 5: I loved him? I mean We had a very just

1424
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 5: so I can make this, this is a very like

1425
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 5: sibling sort of relationship. There was everything, you know, there

1426
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 5: was nothing untoward. And it was after I left, you know,

1427
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 5: then I realized that people who worked females were sort

1428
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 5: of someone involved with him. I was like, oh, like.

1429
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 7: No, interesting I've heard is after he passed, I contacted

1430
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 7: a lot of the people I interviewed, and they almost also

1431
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 7: the same thing. They'd loved him, and they protected him,

1432
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 7: and they felt territorial about him. And even to this day,

1433
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people that will block for him

1434
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 7: in a.

1435
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 5: Sense that I have a really hard time with that though,

1436
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 5: because if there were so many people that loved him,

1437
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 5: I feel like he would be.

1438
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 8: Here right now, right.

1439
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 7: But it's over the course of a forty year career.

1440
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 7: Some of these people may have been around in the ages.

1441
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, Actually I was Cheryl Nick, who's a big bartist,

1442
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 5: and she was like, she would tell me how she

1443
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 5: felt protective, and there was some you know, she maybe

1444
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 5: not as close, but she was just like, you know,

1445
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 5: because you he's he's just he has this child's like

1446
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 5: spirit about him. He's a man, but he's a child.

1447
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: It's a.

1448
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 5: It's a very interesting conundrum to see this person and

1449
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 5: and sometimes he's you know, you know, sometimes he's a

1450
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 5: whiny kid and you want to like choke him out.

1451
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 5: Half the time, I wanted to babyshake him. I mean

1452
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 5: half the time all the time. Who am I kidding?

1453
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 5: Let's be honest. But but but I but I loved

1454
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 5: him like he was like he was there was a

1455
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 5: there der misogynistic parts to him, and then there were

1456
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 5: lovely generous parts to him.

1457
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: How many times were we fired?

1458
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 5: A lot?

1459
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: What was the time period of being fired?

1460
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: No, this is this is this is a recurring story

1461
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: for James Brown, for almost every great and music has

1462
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: a thing where it's like your fire.

1463
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 8: And then like he never fired me, not ever, my drummer. Now,

1464
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 8: so the way we.

1465
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 5: Parted ways, we parted ways. He eventually stopped calling, he

1466
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 5: ghosted me basically, but but like he never fired me.

1467
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 5: And he always said I'm not firing you. I could

1468
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 5: never fire you. And I was like, well, bitch, I'm

1469
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 5: not quitting.

1470
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: We do this.

1471
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: What was the distance between the argument and the radio silence?

1472
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: And Okay, I need some corn flakes?

1473
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, he could go a couple of hours to I

1474
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 5: think the longest is two and a half weeks.

1475
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 3: Wow.

1476
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 5: You just thought like okay, no, no, no, no, he wouldn't.

1477
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,959
Speaker 5: He just wouldn't call me. But I would get emails

1478
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 5: at all hours of the night, but he just wouldn't

1479
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 5: speak to me. So there was one time. I got

1480
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 5: to tell you this one. There was one time we fought,

1481
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 5: and it was that it was one of the first

1482
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 5: parties that I threw at the thirty one to twenty

1483
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 5: one home, and he was so mad and it was

1484
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 5: something I did and I was like whatever, and then

1485
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 5: Raoul the driver was right there. He was like five

1486
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 5: inches from me. I'm at the front door. Raul Prince

1487
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 5: talks to Raoul and he's like, tell Ruth that. And

1488
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 5: I was like, Migro, are you for real talking looking

1489
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 5: at Raoul and I'm in front of you her face,

1490
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 5: I was like maybe ten inches away from him. Tell

1491
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 5: Ruth that we don't want this person here. I think

1492
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 5: he was mad because somebody got to the party that

1493
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 5: wasn't supposed to be there. And I was like, I

1494
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with that. The person wasn't on

1495
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 5: my list and he came with another person and and uh,

1496
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 5: Raoul turns around and like Robel, I heard what he said.

1497
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 5: He's right there, and I was like, Prince, I was

1498
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 5: so mad. I was like yeah, all the time when

1499
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 5: I was mad, Like if I was in front of

1500
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 5: people or we were in a meeting with like Warner

1501
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 5: Brothers or executives, is yes, sir, no, sir, I would

1502
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 5: call him. I would say his name. I would say prince,

1503
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 5: like if I need to get his attention. But there

1504
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 5: was one time we were in New York and uh,

1505
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 5: and he there was too many people and I'm like

1506
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 5: all crazy. He turned around and he just laughed because

1507
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 5: there was no there was no way of getting his

1508
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 5: attention otherwise, and he was too far and I couldn't

1509
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 5: reach him. But he snapped his head back like.

1510
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 8: His mama called him and mama Sean did.

1511
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, there was like there was like probably

1512
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 5: two and a half weeks as long as that the

1513
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 5: radio silence would go. It was after a fight, and

1514
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 5: so he calls me up and I land. And now

1515
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 5: you know, people are annoyed because you know, the the

1516
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 5: rehearsals have been going on, all the badges have been done.

1517
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 5: It's a huge production to get security clearance and all

1518
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 5: of that for the Super Bowl you need like twenty

1519
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 5: badges and pictures and blood type and you know, the

1520
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 5: last date of my period. So it was like an ordeal,

1521
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 5: and so they were annoyed that they had to rush

1522
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 5: it through in literally like an hour or two. So

1523
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 5: I get there and I can't you know, I can't

1524
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 5: walk around the grounds or anything. So I'm waiting at

1525
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 5: like this holding cell area, and then you know, Prince

1526
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 5: summons me and he's in his trailer, and so they

1527
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 5: have to escort me because I don't have any credentials,

1528
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 5: and so I get escorted. I go up there and

1529
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 5: Prince is like, the sound is bad. Fix it. I

1530
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 5: was like, you me, fix it? Like sound like I

1531
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 5: look like a sound engineer and I'm like okay. So

1532
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 5: he basically was upset about the sound. I had nothing

1533
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 5: to do with. The producers already knew about it. Everybody

1534
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 5: already knew about it. There wasn't anything I could do.

1535
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 5: I didn't know why I was there. So I said, well,

1536
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 5: you know, they're working on it, and he's like, okay,

1537
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 5: well we have an event to go to tonight. You're coming, right,

1538
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, yeah, I guess I am so

1539
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 5: you know where. I was like, hey, be in the car.

1540
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 5: We're leaving at no thing is if nobody knows Prince

1541
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 5: he likes to speak in the plural and the third person,

1542
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 5: so everybody else started to sort of pick that up.

1543
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 5: We all this we bullshit and it's just like you.

1544
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 5: It's just you. And so he's like, we're leaving at seven,

1545
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, I go downstairs. I wait in

1546
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 5: the limo. And Prince was curious. He's really pissed about

1547
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 5: the sound and not you know about you know what

1548
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 5: he was hearing. Also in an empty stadium and there

1549
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 5: was no you, there was reverb and all this stuff

1550
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 5: and you know what was going to be televised, and

1551
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 5: he was just not happy about the whole situation. We

1552
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 5: get into the limo to go to this event the

1553
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 5: night before the Super Bowl and he is like stone

1554
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 5: cold face killer like he gets in the car, doesn't

1555
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 5: even look at me, and I'm like, where's everybody else?

1556
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 5: And I asked for it's the question. He doesn't answer,

1557
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 5: and ray I was like, Uh, it's just you. And

1558
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 5: I'm like, you motherfucker, like you left me in the blimo.

1559
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 5: It's just me and Prince, and it was just like

1560
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 5: you could feel the tension in the air. It was

1561
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 5: just it was just so thick with like rife, with

1562
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 5: just it felt like anger. I wasn't sure what it was.

1563
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, God, damn, I'm going to be

1564
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 5: in this car with them. I don't know what to do.

1565
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: So I'm like and we start to leave and I'm

1566
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 5: like okay, and the driver says, oh, you know the

1567
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 5: destination is like fifteen minutes away. Well, it's South Beach

1568
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 5: the night before the Super Bowl. It is bumper to bumper.

1569
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 5: We it's twenty minutes and we don't move but like

1570
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 5: maybe a foot. And so Prince is getting highly annoyed,

1571
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 5: and I'm starting to panic because I'm like, I can't

1572
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 5: sit here for two hours with this dude just fuming, Yeah,

1573
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 5: just stewing. I was like, oh, this is super uncomfortable.

1574
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 5: And I was like fuck it. And I'm like, so

1575
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 5: this is so speech right. This is where they said

1576
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 5: did they film that movie say Hello to my Little Friend?

1577
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 5: But that's all I could come to mind, you know.

1578
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 5: And he was like, he looks at me, he gives

1579
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 5: me a side eye. Meanwhile, he's I only get his

1580
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 5: profile he never once really looks at me, and he's

1581
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 5: like yes, silence, Oh my fuck. And then he's like, ra,

1582
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 5: well how long you know, how long before we get there?

1583
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 5: And he's like, we're calling a police escort. So we're

1584
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 5: waiting for a police escort. And so I'm like I

1585
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 5: can't stand it. And I'm like, so, like, have you

1586
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 5: ever been here before? Well, because I couldn't. My brain

1587
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 5: wasn't working because it was so I was stressed out

1588
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 5: because he was stressed out, and he was like, yeah,

1589
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 5: I used to. I used to have a club here.

1590
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 5: It was really cool. It's called Clam Slam. And I

1591
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 5: was like and then suddenly I remember so two days

1592
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 5: before now I had Amir had sent the Muppets Tonight,

1593
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 5: and he had sent me a CD version. I'd never

1594
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 5: seen it. It was the if no one's ever seen it,

1595
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 5: you have to look it up. Muppets Tonight with Prince

1596
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 5: it is, we know it.

1597
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, the.

1598
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:13,520
Speaker 5: Essence of So so what kept me around was that

1599
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 5: that that spark that you see in the Muppets Tonight,

1600
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 5: that childhood sort of elation that Prince would come out with.

1601
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 5: That That's what when I would see that, that would

1602
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 5: kind of like fuel me, yeah, all of it. So

1603
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 5: he I'm like, no, you know what's cool. I'm like,

1604
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what's cool. What's cool is you being

1605
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 5: on the Muppets tonight And he whips his head around.

1606
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 5: So the first time he looks at me in the

1607
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 5: hole like by now, it's been like forty five minutes,

1608
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 5: and he's like, what do you know about that? And

1609
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, Amir sent it to me. He's like why Yeah,

1610
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 5: He's like what why is the mere sending you stuff?

1611
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, because you're in it and I've

1612
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 5: never seen it before. And I'm like, oh my god.

1613
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 5: And so I go into this and I'm like, how

1614
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 5: about when Fozzy Wazzy bere goes. You're pretty mouthy for

1615
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 5: a guy with no name. And I literally, because I

1616
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 5: just it, I take on all the like and how

1617
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 5: I went gonzo, like where's the course hit in the

1618
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,839
Speaker 5: fish nets? And he's like it's exactly like I literally

1619
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 5: like reenacted the whole thing because I'd just seen it.

1620
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1621
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 5: So we spent the next hour talking about the Muppets

1622
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 5: tonight and what a magical thing is I After like

1623
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 5: my twenty fifteen minutes of reenacting because I had to reenact.

1624
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 5: I was laughing so hard at my own jokes. I

1625
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 5: was like I entertained. Raoul turned around and he's like,

1626
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 5: what the fuck is going on? And I'm like, dude,

1627
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, I mean my moment, it was like it

1628
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 5: was like musical theater for the five year old in me,

1629
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 5: and I like went through the whole thing, and I

1630
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 5: was like, how about when you were like wearing your

1631
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 5: little cute little overalls and you had that straw in

1632
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,839
Speaker 5: your mouth, like you know, and so we talked about

1633
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 5: how he he was like, and this is where where

1634
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 5: I bring back when you were saying, Dwayne about how

1635
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 5: he would like change, like if he was upset at

1636
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 5: someone and he would like not give credit to that

1637
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 5: person or whatever. So he's like, I don't remember who

1638
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 5: told me to do them muppets tonight. And now I

1639
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 5: was looked at him. I'm like, yeah, you do, because

1640
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 5: I could tell you the way he phrased it. I

1641
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 5: found out later my day is first wife had encouraged

1642
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 5: him to do it. But he was like, but it

1643
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 5: was the best thing I ever did. He was like,

1644
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 5: it was the most magical experience in Henston's studios is

1645
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 5: like the most the most magical place you could ever

1646
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 5: be in. And we had this really, you know, really

1647
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 5: long conversation about it. And it was during the course

1648
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 5: of the conversation then I realized he wasn't angry, that

1649
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 5: he was nervous. And it took me like, you know,

1650
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 5: cause you're he's prince, like you don't think about it.

1651
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 5: And when I saw him soften up, and when you know,

1652
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 5: I saw the look on his face and then I

1653
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 5: was like and I'm like, fuck it, and I'm like, prince,

1654
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 5: your prince, like, no matter what happens tomorrow, like you're

1655
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 5: gonna you're gonna kill it. You're gonna slay it. And

1656
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 5: there's nobody who's gonna ever do what you can do,

1657
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 5: not here, not today, not yesterday, not tomorrow. So I'm like,

1658
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 5: just know that, like I said, I guarantee you. And

1659
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 5: I'm like, and if you come back for that money

1660
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 5: back guarantee I got about two dollars and fifty cents.

1661
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: Were what were his feelings after it was done? Because

1662
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: you couldn't have asked for.

1663
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: I was.

1664
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 5: We ran down Kim and I and uh, I think

1665
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 5: it was strang show. We ran down to like the

1666
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 5: front like we because I was like, we were in

1667
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 5: the box seat and then we because they wouldn't let

1668
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 5: us in there's other people, and then didn't want to.

1669
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 5: I was like whatever, and then we ran down to

1670
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 5: the field. We got drenched. I was drenched head to toe,

1671
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 5: like like I look like a drowned rat. Prince like

1672
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 5: we run back ups. We're like, we gotta go see Prince,

1673
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 5: so we run back up after his after he's done,

1674
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 5: he's already in the box. I'm like, motherfucker, we left

1675
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 5: before you got.

1676
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,799
Speaker 2: Off the stage.

1677
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm not kidding. My hairs pasted to

1678
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 5: my forehead, my dress is like tissue paper all over

1679
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 5: the place, showing things that no one should ever see

1680
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 5: in public. And I look at him. I walked through

1681
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 5: the door kind of like that little kid. Do you

1682
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 5: remember that episode where the little kids in Jurassic Park

1683
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 5: where they walked through after they had been electrocuted and

1684
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 5: they walk in all dumbfounded, like to the foyer with food.

1685
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 5: I walk into the sweet and I'm all with my

1686
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 5: face just like all like crazy hair plaster. Prince not

1687
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 5: he had two droplets on his shoulder hat. I was like,

1688
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 5: I scream at him, and I'm like, how do you

1689
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 5: not have any water on you? Oh my god, you

1690
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 5: were amazing and I just go and I grab and

1691
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 5: he like, we give no. He came up. He stopped talking,

1692
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 5: you know, he stopped talking to come up to me.

1693
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 5: Like I didn't just do that out of nowhere, like

1694
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 5: he like made the he made the he like he

1695
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 5: stopped his conversation and came right up to me, and

1696
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 5: I just give him the biggest bear hug and he

1697
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 5: just slaps and he's like thank you, and that was it.

1698
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 5: And then he moved on and he said, talk to

1699
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 5: Kim and Trisha. But I'm like, I took that thank you,

1700
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, that's right, Yeah I did.

1701
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 5: I did that, but actually or saved the super Bowl

1702
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,879
Speaker 5: because if it wasn't for you, I would.

1703
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Have literally lost, had no material.

1704
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 5: Had no material, none, none, and the super Bowl would

1705
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 5: have been a bust.

1706
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 7: It's amazing when you think about somebody like that being

1707
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 7: nervous because we all look at him as this guy's

1708
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 7: almost infallible, and when it comes to movies and then

1709
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 7: to hear I mean, there's a story in the book

1710
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 7: about Alan Leed's exactly going to the premiere of Peurple

1711
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 7: Rain and he's having almost holding Allen Leed's hand because

1712
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 7: he's terrified, and just you picture this guy who at

1713
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 7: the time. You gotta remember when Pearple Rain came out

1714
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 7: twenty four, twenty six years old. I mean that I

1715
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 7: look back at that age and I'm like, that's as

1716
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 7: a child, you know, and I can't imagine having that

1717
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 7: kind of control. And if that movie bombed, it would

1718
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 7: have he would have been a punchline.

1719
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of his the mysterious standoffish

1720
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: nature is due to the fact that, you know, kind

1721
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: of like the Wizard of Oz, like you don't want

1722
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: anyone to see what's really behind the curse because you

1723
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: might be disappointed, that sort of thing.

1724
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 5: There's a lot of that, But I think it also

1725
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 5: is that you know, a person like that doesn't you

1726
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 5: don't trust anyone, so it's very hard to be vulnerable,

1727
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 5: and so vulnerability is a commodity you know that he

1728
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 5: can't afford to share.

1729
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 7: He's a guy that's never I mean, he's always cool,

1730
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 7: and I think I said before somebody is you never

1731
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 7: see him trying to grab a straw with his tongue

1732
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 7: or missing it.

1733
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, you.

1734
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 7: Have us mortals haven't seen him doing this stuff. You

1735
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 7: don't see him tripping or you know, he's falling off

1736
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 7: the stage of James Brown. We know we've seen that,

1737
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 7: you know, but then then again the nerd off, but

1738
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 7: you don't, don't we don't.

1739
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly all of us say telling us about that.

1740
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,879
Speaker 8: Really what he's saying, Oh, he's.

1741
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Just saying that he made an ass out of himself.

1742
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 8: Then he didn't have a good night that night.

1743
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: You ever hear Allen's version of.

1744
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 8: That, No, tell me what I may have, but tell

1745
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 8: me no.

1746
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: I asked Alan, like, what happened on in the ride

1747
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: back home? And it was again they were sitting in traffic, Bobby, Jill,

1748
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: Allen and Prince and it was obviously it was dead silent.

1749
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: But that's what was so important about that night. Alan

1750
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 1: agrees that kind of the I will not I will

1751
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: never you will never catch me unprepared or that sort

1752
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: of So the genesis of his meticulous I mean, it's

1753
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 1: always been there, but what led to all the stop

1754
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: on the dime ship, all the you know, ain't nobody

1755
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: fucking with us sort of thing? That's the night it

1756
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: was born because and I even asked Wendy. I was like,

1757
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: so if he didn't say anything in that whole ride

1758
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: home and she was like, yeah, it was bumper to

1759
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: bumper traffic.

1760
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: No one said anything. I said, did you? Did you know?

1761
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: Because I asked the next day, like in rehearsal.

1762
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Was there a look of like I wonder if you

1763
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: two told the others like what happened to me? Like

1764
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: that sort of thing, And you know, it's like a

1765
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: fear thing, like I don't want to mess up Michael thing. No, no,

1766
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:22,919
Speaker 1: like it's it's unsaid.

1767
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:30,560
Speaker 2: But she sensed that that night changed, it was necessary

1768
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: to change.

1769
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: That was the motivation to like, Okay, I will be

1770
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: the greatest I will be. You know that sort of obsession.

1771
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 7: I talked about that a little bit in the book

1772
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 7: where it talks about his control and how important control

1773
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 7: was in any situation, and that would be part of

1774
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 7: what you said, and how the man had to have

1775
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 7: control over whatever it was with the conversation holding it,

1776
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 7: you know, religion, guys or whatever.

1777
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 5: Interesting. You're right, he was definitely a control freak, but

1778
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 5: then there were certain things that he would like I

1779
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 5: was autonomous in a lot of the stuff that I

1780
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 5: did because I don't know, well, I was going to

1781
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 5: say because, but I don't actually know why. I think

1782
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 5: I was just basically part of it was that that

1783
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 5: because not only was he a control freak, but he

1784
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 5: also liked to instigate stuff. So he could tell like

1785
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 5: twelve people to do the same thing, so there'd be

1786
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 5: some kind of weird rivalry competition and he and no

1787
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 5: one would talk to each other so we would all

1788
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 5: do the same job.

1789
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 7: So he could be above the whole thing and let

1790
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 7: you guys battle it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's let

1791
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 7: the minions kind of take you know.

1792
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 5: I have none of that, like I got that was

1793
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 5: the thing. I would be like, but he would say stuff, well,

1794
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 5: if you can't do it, I'll have such and such

1795
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 5: doing I'm like, I.

1796
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 8: Can do it, I can do it.

1797
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 5: I would get mad like it would be like he

1798
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 5: would like stir you up in some way.

1799
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 9: Ruth, do you remember that super embarrassing moment we had

1800
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 9: at the Beverly Will share in his bedroom. I tell

1801
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 9: this really quick because it's the most embarrassing story of

1802
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 9: my life. But our friend af she and Shahiti photographer photographer,

1803
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 9: his dear friend we all met through all that through

1804
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,799
Speaker 9: Prince had his camera and we were in Prince's bedroom

1805
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 9: thinking Princess.

1806
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 5: Okay, So first of all, we weren't in his real bedroom,

1807
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 5: so we were at the region. We were at the

1808
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 5: region I threw I had six hours to throw a

1809
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 5: party for the oscars. And that's the one that Tom

1810
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 5: Cruise came to and the one that yeah, he gave

1811
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 5: me six hours to find a place and throw a party,

1812
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 5: and that's the one where Cameron Dia is like justin

1813
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 5: Timberlake with Justin Timberlake and Jessica Bielle was there. It

1814
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 5: was like a hot mess six hours. I was so

1815
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 5: mad and then I had I was like, like I learned,

1816
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 5: literally became an evil bitch. I was yelling at everybody

1817
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 5: and we Before the party started though, I was super

1818
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 5: stressed out. And there are many rooms in this this penthouse.

1819
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 3: Uh it was the big, big penthouse.

1820
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 5: So there's like several rooms. I didn't know about this night,

1821
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 5: so there's like there was like five there's like maybe

1822
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 5: five or six different rooms.

1823
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 2: And you know, it took six hours though.

1824
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 5: Six hours.

1825
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 3: Well that was the best part part of it is

1826
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: that I had to be like.

1827
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 5: Like you know. I I spoke Prince BONNYX before, you know,

1828
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 5: and it's like I was like a bit of a

1829
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 5: mind reader, so I would and he hated that. He

1830
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 5: hated that I would like try to him. Yeah, he

1831
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 5: really did, so sometimes he would flip it on me.

1832
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 5: But I was ready for that one too, So if

1833
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 5: he tried to flip the script, I got. I got that.

1834
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 5: So I had like like twelve plates running. But so

1835
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 5: we throw the party and we get there before no

1836
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 5: one's there yet, right, no one's there yet.

1837
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 3: There was a few fee people, but we.

1838
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 5: Walk into okay, so now we walk into one so

1839
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 5: I just don't want to say it's Prince's.

1840
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,919
Speaker 9: Bedroom was the Prince's bedroom was one of the bedrooms

1841
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 9: in his suite. And af Sheen has this camera and

1842
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 9: me and my dirty mind and being French and all

1843
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 9: the stupid shit I say, I say, we should we

1844
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 9: should do like a little sexy photo shoot, like a

1845
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 9: little porno. So af Sheen, you take picture of Ruth

1846
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 9: and I Ruth gets on the ball and I get

1847
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 9: behind Ruth.

1848
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, no, enacting this thing.

1849
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 9: And I'm like and af she like, I don't even

1850
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 9: know if he has the photos. But I'm studying there

1851
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 9: behind Ruth and dude just walks right into and he goes,

1852
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 9: he looks at me and he goes, now, he goes

1853
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 9: uh uh and walk right back out.

1854
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 3: And you were like, you look at me like you

1855
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 3: just got me fired.

1856
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 2: You just got me fired. Yeah.

1857
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 9: She was like, you just got me fired with your

1858
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 9: stupid ass. And if she was studying there like okay,

1859
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 9: this was awkward. And then I'm thinking like, I don't

1860
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,759
Speaker 9: know how to go back into the room though, because

1861
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 9: he's going to see me in the room right, And

1862
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 9: then he was cool. I don't know, he had a

1863
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 9: sense of you here.

1864
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 5: That was the first time that somebody's like come up

1865
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 5: behind me and done something they shouldn't happen. They got fired.

1866
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 9: So I had to tell that because that just came

1867
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 9: back to me.

1868
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 5: That was really funny.

1869
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go around the room. I would like to know, Mike,

1870
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: what is in your in your mind?

1871
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 2: What is your.

1872
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 1: Goal to see as far as his legacy concerned? Then

1873
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: how would you like that?

1874
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1875
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because the thing is he's he's not

1876
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: coming back, and I know I think, well, he would

1877
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: never want his he would never do a Nike commercial.

1878
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 2: He would never do that.

1879
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 1: But it's like we live in a society in which

1880
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: people forget quickly.

1881
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 11: And.

1882
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's the battle of well, do we.

1883
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Put him in Bob Marley terms and have him everywhere

1884
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: or you know, and you know, we've had a lot

1885
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: of eye rolling moments like the Empire Empire episode or whatever,

1886
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: or maybe what going to happen.

1887
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 5: I can tell you though, for one thing for sure,

1888
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 5: he would never want Purple Rene licensed. That's well, yeah,

1889
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 5: it was a work order that he had universal publishing.

1890
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 5: Purple Raine should never be licensed, not ever.

1891
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's one thing in his will.

1892
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just whether anyone's gonna honor that or.

1893
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 3: Not, is Matthew?

1894
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: What would you as as the ultimate Prince fan? First

1895
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: of all, what's what's what's your rarest artifact that you have?

1896
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: I kind of misrepresented you. I mean you your artifact

1897
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:20,839
Speaker 1: game is crazy.

1898
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, I have a couple of black albums,

1899
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 9: a German one in the US one which is pretty

1900
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 9: I feel that's pretty cool. But I have some some

1901
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 9: handwritten things.

1902
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 3: I have some.

1903
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 9: Acetates and test pressings that I'm proud of, Like for you,

1904
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 9: the very first yikes, which I've had for a long time.

1905
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 3: A lot of I mean, it's funny, like I have cassettes.

1906
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 9: I have like cassette for that song the Voice, and

1907
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 9: I hear your voice from Warner Chapel with handwriting you

1908
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 9: know that has like the thing they sent him, things

1909
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 9: like that that are and of a kind.

1910
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 3: So but you know, I have a lot.

1911
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 9: And at a certain point in my life I got

1912
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 9: rid of some things around like gold experience kind of

1913
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 9: I kind of disconnected a little bit, and people came

1914
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 9: after me and was.

1915
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 2: Like, why'd you get rid of things?

1916
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 9: Because I was you know, at a certain point, I

1917
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 9: was buying my first house with my then wife and kids,

1918
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 9: and it was like we need money quick. You know,

1919
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 9: I had these my regrets that I wish you haven't.

1920
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 9: That's why I mentioned that earlier. I had these two

1921
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 9: uh so four sides of I wish you havn't acetates

1922
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 9: that had completely different mixes of the extended Somewhere.

1923
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 3: I have a cassette of it, so maybe you can

1924
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 3: find that.

1925
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 9: But that's something that but I got so much money

1926
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 9: and at the time, you know, I was like, I

1927
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 9: don't know, thirty years old, somebody gave me like fifteen

1928
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 9: thousand dollars for you know. I was like, that's a

1929
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 9: lot of money.

1930
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: Do you know who he gave?

1931
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 3: It was some some.

1932
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 9: Some kin I could maybe, but I had, like you know,

1933
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 9: I had some some you know, a couple of pairs

1934
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 9: of shoes and the princes shoes and.

1935
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 3: A couple of pair pair you know.

1936
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 2: Damn, I'm just it just hit me that I forgot

1937
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 2: I have like you have.

1938
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 3: I gave up.

1939
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 2: Even in here. I'm like, man, I wish I had

1940
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 2: some old.

1941
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 3: Way to you just your game like on a big No.

1942
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: I got lucky, man, and I will not probably have

1943
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,560
Speaker 1: a house in the next three years.

1944
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 2: You'll sell it altered me for twenty bucks.

1945
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: Now even you know, what's what's weird is that what

1946
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 1: I have, it's so sacred to me that my I think,

1947
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: my plan is that I want him to really have

1948
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: a nice wing at the Smithsonian in DC.

1949
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 2: So I believe that I will.

1950
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean because right now as we speak, I mean,

1951
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's on the floor like it's it's it's hot.

1952
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 1: It's seven figures worth of ship that is sitting on

1953
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 1: the floor. And you know, I mean, you know, and

1954
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: I'd rather it just be in I'd rather put it

1955
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: to awesome, you know, I rather have it put to

1956
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:20,839
Speaker 1: great my apartment.

1957
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,719
Speaker 2: So I think that.

1958
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: I will probably donate it to my apartment the Smithson.

1959
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: I need some stuff for.

1960
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: The walls in DC, So damn I wish you we haven't.

1961
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's my you know, that's one of my regrets.

1962
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 9: And there's still a lot of other stuff. I mean,

1963
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 9: I have things, you know, in storage and things in

1964
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 9: closets that I forget about. But it's pretty crazy, like

1965
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 9: some of this stuff you have that love God. Well,

1966
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 9: one time I stalked him at Warner Brothers, a friend

1967
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 9: of mine was working in international. You talk about the

1968
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 9: Oh that was crazy, No, that says stay wet. Actually,

1969
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 9: this is crazy. I found the nineteen ninety nine thing.

1970
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 9: This was when like days after he passed, and this

1971
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 9: is like, you know, holy whatever you call it to

1972
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 9: divine intervention. But long story short, I get a nineteen

1973
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 9: ninety nine record that inside has a napkin one hundred

1974
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 9: percent authentic signs stay Wet, Love Prince in purple marker

1975
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 9: and we have the story goes deep. But yeah, that's

1976
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 9: so that. Yeah, that's one of those stuts.

1977
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 2: What made you look?

1978
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 9: I mean, no, no, they it said like, you know

1979
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 9: something I can't remember. It didn't even have it like

1980
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 9: on the outside it said like it didn't say so

1981
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 9: it was weird. It was like a few hundred bucks,

1982
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 9: so they knew it was something. But I just saw

1983
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 9: the guy putting it up. They hadn't put it up yet.

1984
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 9: I saw the guy in the middle of putting it up,

1985
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 9: and I was like, let me have that, and I figured,

1986
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:46,640
Speaker 9: you know, I look inside, I see the thing, and

1987
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 9: I was like, yeah, I'm buying that. And then yeah,

1988
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 9: that was crazy. But I also had, like, you know,

1989
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 9: I had him sign some stuff. My friend used to

1990
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 9: work at International at Warner Brothers, and I came to

1991
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 9: the I guess it was for Graffiti Bridge and then

1992
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 9: he had the Diamonds and Pearls where they performed on

1993
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 9: the lot. That's when I met Jeff aaroff ended up.

1994
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 9: You remember we were hanging with Jeff back in two

1995
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 9: thousand and nine in New York Mere, the guy who

1996
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 9: signed Lenny and Man Harper and everybody. But anyways, Jeff, uh,

1997
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 9: you know, it kind of stuck me in to watch

1998
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 9: Prince perform the diamonds and pearls thing on the lot.

1999
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 3: And then I had him sign a thing.

2000
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:21,679
Speaker 9: So that's someone that's in my bedroom because he signed

2001
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 9: it to me, not to my name, but signed it.

2002
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 2: I was like that he signed it hard. Yeah, I

2003
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 2: think I have I've a napping from the first wedding.

2004
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 6: Really yeah, signs to no not signs.

2005
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 3: Of those such a geek weird.

2006
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 2: It was a gift. Somebody gave it to me.

2007
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: The way that he signed that, he sharp et the

2008
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 1: the get off twelve inch.

2009
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did something.

2010
01:39:53,320 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: Similar to shocka Delica, So I think, yeah, I have

2011
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: the I have the Shaka Delicate or I have like whatever.

2012
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: He said that.

2013
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: He told Alan like have da da da play this

2014
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:11,520
Speaker 1: record and he signed it and and you know Camille

2015
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: Shaka Delica and gave it to Alan to give to

2016
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: the DJ to play it and then bring it back.

2017
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, I'm still stuggling.

2018
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 2: I wish you haven't.

2019
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 9: They were like forced and they get off twelve and

2020
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 9: you're talking about.

2021
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 7: I was there when he got it, used to hang

2022
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 7: out back then, and he had it before anybody else

2023
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 7: and he said, look at this, and he's still he.

2024
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 9: Got a package from Paisley Park one day and I'd

2025
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 9: been I see, I was consulting for like anti piracy.

2026
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 9: I was a total hypocrite because I was collecting all

2027
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 9: the ship and they were paying me to like do

2028
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 9: anti piracy work. But basically it was, you know, I was.

2029
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 2: Just compared with Pigeon.

2030
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, So basically like and I was like, you know,

2031
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 9: these are the I would make databases and all that stuff.

2032
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 9: And so they started sending me, you know, test pressings and.

2033
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 7: This guy, honestly it was it was because he'd always

2034
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 7: had some crazy stuff. He was always getting amazing stuff.

2035
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 7: And you still had a relationship with Lenny way back

2036
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 7: then because but he when he got the twelve inch

2037
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 7: of of Get Off, he like showed me and Brian,

2038
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 7: who used to hang out with and we were just

2039
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 7: dumbfounded by this thing, going, this is the coolest thing,

2040
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 7: and nobody had it.

2041
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 3: Because it was weird.

2042
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 9: He shipped it like two weeks later, so three weeks later,

2043
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 9: so I was and I was trying to see, like, wait,

2044
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 9: is this the actual writing on it?

2045
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 8: Like he still has the FedEx package that it came.

2046
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 3: From Paisley because I'm because I have a geek.

2047
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: And then I got yeah, I ship away. Well, I

2048
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 1: used to work at rough Bound Records, interned there and

2049
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 1: they sent like five of those on esther fans really

2050
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: and my.

2051
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 9: Mom the package, the package I got for that, it's

2052
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 9: another Paisley thing and it's got the gold sex CMF

2053
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 9: wrapped in underwear with the sex MF with the fan

2054
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 9: and a card from Print saying you know the.

2055
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 3: New blah blah blah. And I still have that thing

2056
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 3: pretty intact.

2057
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 9: But you know, there's there was There was at Zanzibar

2058
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 9: the night where we were at Zanzibar, and that's what

2059
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,799
Speaker 9: I was working on the Ultimate Prince thing with Warner Brothers,

2060
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 9: and I had like the he really like got in

2061
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 9: my head and about about it, and he was he

2062
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 9: got an advance for he knew it was, you know,

2063
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 9: it was a real thing and he was down with it.

2064
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 9: But he asked me to take off certain songs because

2065
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 9: of his belief. So take Away, Erotic City, Soft and Wet.

2066
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 1: There was one more the twelve inches and on twelve

2067
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 1: the Ultimate Print.

2068
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 9: No, we had to take it off, so you know,

2069
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 9: thanks to Michael. Now it's out in the sound, in

2070
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 9: the right sound on the Purple Rain thing. But so

2071
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 9: I said, can I put Let's Work instead? So we

2072
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 9: replaced Let's Work and then for soft and what he

2073
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 9: wanted the acoustic version of seven. So it was like, Okay,

2074
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 9: that's not really the same thing. But but that night

2075
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 9: he had a I still have this. It was an

2076
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 9: acetate of I don't know why I got that. It

2077
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 9: was like a parting gift.

2078
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2079
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 9: Maybe it was for somebody else and he thought it

2080
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 9: was somebody else. But it's a sex cmf remix with

2081
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 9: mixed with like ice cube wrapping.

2082
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 3: I remember that.

2083
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 9: It's like, but it's it's an ice cube track. It's

2084
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 9: not ice cube on prints. It's a it's like a

2085
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 9: like a Medley kind of yeah, mash up. But so

2086
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 9: I'll dig that up for you. I'll send you that.

2087
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 9: It's it's just but you know, things like that. I'm

2088
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 9: sure if I someday, I'm gonna actually, you know, organize

2089
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 9: my stuff.

2090
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: What is your wish as far as the legacy's concerned,

2091
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 1: what's your.

2092
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 7: I think there's so much potential to do. I would,

2093
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 7: first off, would love to see serious XM station that's

2094
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 7: just just prints or something like that.

2095
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 8: I would love to see.

2096
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: Did you not tell me that at the time you

2097
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: guys that conversation did you.

2098
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 8: Have, because I would love to see.

2099
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 7: To me, you got a Tom Petty station, you got

2100
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 7: a Bruce station, and I would love to smell. I'd

2101
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 7: love to see it right now because you could have

2102
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 7: all the different shows. You have a live show, you

2103
01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 7: have a Bobby's he doing the DJ thing that he

2104
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 7: used to do. I think something like that would be amazing.

2105
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 7: And the problem right now is that the legacy of

2106
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 7: Prince is going to start to get smaller and smaller

2107
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 7: and smaller. And it's our job to keep expanding it.

2108
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 7: You know, Michael Jackson, it is important to us. But

2109
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 7: Michael Jackson's legacy is drifting because the reissues are having,

2110
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 7: yeah exactly, the re issues are having are not the Halloween.

2111
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 8: Thing care that was, soone's like, what the you know?

2112
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 7: But with Prince, he's got such a vast vault of stuff,

2113
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 7: some great, some not as great. It's up to us

2114
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 7: to kind of get you know.

2115
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 2: Well, there's enough for released twenty great records.

2116
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he's got a lot of great stuff, a

2117
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 7: lot of and I'm hoping what the State does and

2118
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 7: what Warner Brothers did. First off, I hope everything goes

2119
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 7: to Warner Brothers. I want it under one house. He

2120
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 7: may have had problems out with Warner Brothers at certain times,

2121
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 7: but it seems that Warner Brothers is never going to

2122
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 7: release what they have. I would like to see everything

2123
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 7: going to one place so you can have the greatest

2124
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 7: hit exactly, and you can, and then you don't have

2125
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 7: to fight about what when he did a session in

2126
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 7: eighty five that didn't come out, well, that would be

2127
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 7: under this umbrella, as opposed to somebody saying, well, that

2128
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 7: didn't come out, so this he He also did a

2129
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 7: lot of albums that as you know, he did a

2130
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 7: lot of albums that he gave to Warner Brothers saying

2131
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 7: release this, and they didn't. So when people complained that,

2132
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 7: well he didn't intend to release this, no, he actually

2133
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 7: there's a lot of things he wanted to release that

2134
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 7: Warner Brothers are something that said no.

2135
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot of things like that.

2136
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 7: And on top of that, he would he would be

2137
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 7: very interested in something for Monday and Tuesday of a week,

2138
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 7: and that would be the most important thing. And then

2139
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 7: Wednesday come along and you get a new idea and

2140
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 7: he say no, screw Monday and Tuesday. This is wednes

2141
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 7: That didn't mean Monday and Tuesday stuff is bad. It

2142
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 7: just meant that he all of a sudden happened. He

2143
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 7: had a very short attention span and and I think

2144
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 7: he was really good at starting projects because that's when

2145
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 7: it's fun. You know, you're dating somebody and you want

2146
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 7: to you want you fall in love with the thing.

2147
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 8: But wrapping it up is.

2148
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 7: Is a little more difficult because it's it's the end

2149
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 7: of a relationship. So he would get interested in the

2150
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 7: new girl or the new girl, the new girl, the

2151
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 7: new song, the new song, the new song. And I

2152
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 7: think that so he has a lot of unfinished projects.

2153
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 7: I'd love to hear the flesh out there. I'd love

2154
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 7: to hear a Madhouse box set. I'd love to hear

2155
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 7: Vanity six and Apollonia's six box set. I'd like to

2156
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 7: hear unreleased Revolution album The.

2157
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 2: Garden.

2158
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 7: Even though some of that stuff was released on that album,

2159
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 7: there's more stuff there and I'd love to hear that stuff.

2160
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 8: I'd love to hear all the songs.

2161
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 7: I'd love to see a Sign of the Times multidisc

2162
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 7: set of all the stuff that came out for that.

2163
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 7: You know, with Dream Factory and all all that stuff.

2164
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 7: There's so many projects that the guy did that it

2165
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 7: seems like you could be releasing these things for a

2166
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 7: long long time. I would also like to see them

2167
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 7: taking some of the rehearsals and sound checks and saying, Okay,

2168
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 7: this is when he taught the band Purple Rain, or

2169
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,719
Speaker 7: this is when he taught you know, and have let's

2170
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 7: say a year long process where once a month or

2171
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 7: twice a month.

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01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 8: They come out with a tape. You know, they just

2173
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 8: a tape that.

2174
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 7: Is the rehearsal of something, and you subscriptions to the

2175
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 7: year and you get this download and that to me

2176
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 7: would be the best thing because and it doesn't have.

2177
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 2: To be perfect.

2178
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 7: It can be a flawed tape. We all understand this

2179
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 7: was like a set. But yeah, by now it's weird.

2180
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 8: Hearing something that sounds good. I don't understand this.

2181
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 7: But there's so many things that that you know, I

2182
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 7: think are out there that I think should be. One

2183
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 7: of the cool things about doing the book and stuff

2184
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,800
Speaker 7: like this is because I get an idea of some

2185
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 7: of the things that are out there, and I'm thinking

2186
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,719
Speaker 7: about doing a book that's eighty five eighty six which

2187
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 7: would cover Under the Cherry Moon, which would cover Madhouse,

2188
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 7: which would cover Sheila's second and third album, which would

2189
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 7: cover The Flesh, which would cover Crystal Ball, which would

2190
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 7: cover a it's a jazz.

2191
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:51,559
Speaker 1: Group he did with during Christmas here, yeah, exactly exactly

2192
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: exactly a billion, So it would be that and then

2193
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: that album end or the book ends.

2194
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 8: The second book would end with the Revolution.

2195
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 7: Breaking up, the family breaking up, and then prints breaking

2196
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 7: up with uh Susannah, and then the last thing he

2197
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 7: does that year is recording Wally, you know, And that's

2198
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 7: right before the Sign of the Times band got formed,

2199
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 7: so it sets up Sign of the Times, which Sign

2200
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 7: of the Times is kind of a way of him saying,

2201
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 7: you think it was all about them, I'll show you

2202
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 7: what I can do with a new band, almost a

2203
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 7: completely new band, and and you know, almost feeling like

2204
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 7: he had something to prove.

2205
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 8: So that would be the book.

2206
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 7: After that, I'd love to keep doing books, you know,

2207
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 7: And like I said, until till it's done. I have

2208
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 7: enough material right now to do one about eighty one,

2209
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 7: eighty two, eighty five, eighty six, and eighty seven eighty eight.

2210
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 8: And I'm hoping that along the way.

2211
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:43,839
Speaker 2: Three I know, you know your wife is still.

2212
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 7: You Yeah, yeah, she My daughter is funny. My daughter's eight,

2213
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,799
Speaker 7: and she just all she knows is Dad sits and writes, so.

2214
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 8: She just she'll try to.

2215
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 7: I just wrote a book too, Dad, you know, it's

2216
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 7: very nice. But she doesn't understand that on every vacation,

2217
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 7: every night and every weekend, Dad sitting there writing, you know,

2218
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 7: And it's it's it's obsession, you know. And the interesting

2219
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 7: thing is I see it almost like Prince when he

2220
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 7: got obsessed with doing his stuff, working all the time,

2221
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 7: and it's almost like a life lesson when you see

2222
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 7: what Prince accomplished. There's a reason why he's got a

2223
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 7: vault full of stuff is because he was always working.

2224
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 7: And that's the reason why he was so good. Is

2225
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 7: he was always playing. And before a concert he would

2226
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 7: play for hours while they were still setting up the lights.

2227
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 8: He'd be playing.

2228
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 7: You know, you when you know that kind of stuff,

2229
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 7: there's a reason why he's he's that good and and

2230
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 7: there's a reason why nobody touches him.

2231
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 8: And that's why there's the reason why there's no next Prince.

2232
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 5: Because Prince never never not showed up to reheard, right.

2233
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 7: That's He just that guy lived music, He talked music.

2234
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 7: I think that his communication with people was based on music.

2235
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 7: He had a There was one story I heard that

2236
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 7: would be in the second book where his engineer was

2237
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 7: he's talking his engineering. He said, we should make a

2238
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 7: TV show called drum Talk where one drummer's going the

2239
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 7: other drumm's going and answering each other, like in drum talk.

2240
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 7: And I thought, that's that's courteous.

2241
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 8: But this is how he thinks. This is how this

2242
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 8: is how he thinks, and you know this, and so yeah, again.

2243
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 9: One thing I just wanted to add what you're saying,

2244
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 9: sorry real quick, is that because of the haters, and

2245
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 9: we deal with a lot of haters, is that let's

2246
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 9: remember that Prince was back at Warner Brothers. When people,

2247
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 9: you know, say, oh, Warner Brothers, Warner Brothers. He was

2248
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 9: back with Warner Brothers. That's why Michael was his A

2249
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 9: and R guy, you know when he passed. And the

2250
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 9: other thing is when people talk about he didn't want this,

2251
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 9: he didn't want that. I have first had experienced with

2252
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 9: Ruth there many times where because I before I was

2253
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 9: a photographer, really I was doing all the I still

2254
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 9: do a lot of photographer.

2255
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 5: He's taking pictures, deluxe editions.

2256
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 9: And all that stuff. And I used to give him

2257
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 9: those things and and he would. And when I give

2258
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 9: him to Miles Davis bitches brew fortieth anniversary box that

2259
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 9: I did, the first thing he said is we got

2260
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 9: to do you know, I want to do this with

2261
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 9: all my albums.

2262
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 3: So when people say he wouldn't.

2263
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 9: Want this, you and he was a Gemini, so he would,

2264
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 9: you know, want one thing one day. But I just

2265
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 9: wanted to put that out there that he did say

2266
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 9: that on many occasions and that he was back of

2267
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 9: Warner Brothers.

2268
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 2: That's all right, Ruth, your turn. What would you like

2269
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 2: his legacy to be?

2270
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 5: You know, I think it started during I mean it's

2271
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 5: always been there, but during my tenures when he wanted

2272
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 5: to create a museum droid at the beginning at a

2273
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 5: park at Paisley Park. So it was Dave Hampton, myself,

2274
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,759
Speaker 5: Sam Jennings, and Rick Pelaquin who managed you know, Paisley

2275
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 5: at the time. And you know, I haven't been. I

2276
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 5: don't know what it looks like right now. I've seen

2277
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 5: kind of pictures and I'm a little disappointed, only because

2278
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 5: you know it's going along the lines. It's a very

2279
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 5: different I don't want to put words into Prince's mouth.

2280
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 5: I knew what he said to me at the time

2281
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 5: and the timeframe and during when I was with him,

2282
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 5: what he wanted. But then he you know, he could

2283
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 5: change his mind on a whim. I mean, there's a

2284
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 5: movie that he made. It's a terrible movie. But there

2285
01:51:55,160 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 5: is a movie thirty one twenty one, really and.

2286
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 3: It's the performances, the music.

2287
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 7: I know about the movie. I've never seen it. It's

2288
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 7: just something I should see.

2289
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 3: Apparently not.

2290
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 8: I've wasted a lot of bad things.

2291
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 5: But they're lying lying.

2292
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 9: Nobody say that the studio bits are cool because it's him.

2293
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 5: The studio bits are like really impainful studio in the studio,

2294
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 5: we filmed inside of.

2295
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,759
Speaker 9: The session with Study and Michael.

2296
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 5: There's some really good performance parts, but the project whatever, anyway.

2297
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 9: It's it makes out that the Cherry Moon look like

2298
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 9: gone with the Wind.

2299
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 2: I watch Purple Rain for the narrative.

2300
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 3: I love.

2301
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 8: I don't know, but I mean the better than the

2302
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 8: hard life.

2303
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 3: You don't want to know.

2304
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 2: That's a horrible that's a.

2305
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: Horrible you had we know Prince in movies are it's

2306
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: like a short fifteen minute film that they I think

2307
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 1: they like badr Okay, let me say this The Hard Life.

2308
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 3: It's kas next to.

2309
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: Now don't stop serving me anyway.

2310
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 5: But I think I think just because Prince would say,

2311
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 5: you know so one of the ideas, and I have

2312
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 5: quotes from like my work notebooks of what he wanted.

2313
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 5: He wanted Paisley Park to be an interactive, multi dimensional

2314
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 5: place where fans knew and old could come and discover

2315
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 5: and rediscover music. And part of his you know, saying

2316
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 5: that he would say all the time is I am music.

2317
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 5: And you know, one of the ideas was like He's like,

2318
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 5: we could hang a guitar here, you know, underneath some

2319
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 5: acrylic and I'm like, no, that's not what you do.

2320
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 5: You hang a guitar here, you have a suspended and

2321
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 5: like suspended animation, have a twirling you can have a

2322
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 5: hologram of all the music or the shows of what

2323
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 5: that guitar played on. And I don't know anything about

2324
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 5: Prince and his music and like the songs, but I

2325
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 5: you know, I know what I think would be cool

2326
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 5: to go into a interactive museum and kind of like

2327
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,640
Speaker 5: you know, the Met Museum where you put on like

2328
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 5: the headphones and either they can be guided or they

2329
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 5: can be you know, via headphones, and you as you

2330
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 5: walk through each area, you are you know, you walk

2331
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 5: into an experience. Because that's what the parties were. The

2332
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 5: parties were a multi dimensional experience. You were you were

2333
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 5: assaulted through sound, through smell, through taste. It would like

2334
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 5: we used all your senses and that was what we

2335
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 5: were trying to do with Paisley Park. Now what I

2336
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 5: saw in a picture, I mean, I'm not not to

2337
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 5: diss anyone or anything, but I saw like a utility

2338
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 5: closet popped out and a curlic not even the door

2339
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 5: jams are taken out, and like there's a guitar just

2340
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 5: lying there just because Prince tells you to do that.

2341
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 5: That's not That's not how I work anyway. I don't

2342
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 5: like that's the basic of what he wants, the bare minimum.

2343
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 5: And if it's done like that, you know, he's a

2344
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 5: he's a quick moving guy. So if it's already done,

2345
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 5: he's just gonna keep it moving. But what I would

2346
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 5: love to see for his legacy is the things that

2347
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 5: we talked about but implemented in the most suffil Thank you,

2348
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 5: Thank you, took the words right out of my mouth.

2349
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 5: We're not beyond. It's not classy, it's it's more like

2350
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 5: it's got to change. So whatever is implemented has to

2351
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 5: be able to morph at just like he did. He

2352
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 5: morphed and he changed. He changed, but he didn't like

2353
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 5: there were the core things. His core thing with Prince

2354
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 5: was always the record company. Like he was always going

2355
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 5: to fight the record company. It didn't matter whether he

2356
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 5: was friends with them or not. He was always he

2357
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 5: was always gonna look at an attorney side eyed. Always

2358
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 5: he didn't trust attorneys. No matter who tells you what,

2359
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 5: he didn't trust them. You know, you can say that

2360
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 5: like three does a blels lowered, it'll still be true.

2361
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 5: Like he you know, there were there were certain things

2362
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 5: about him and like Duayanne and meant to you and

2363
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 5: everyone here says like he would change his mind, then

2364
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 5: he would change it back. So what I can say

2365
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 5: to you right now could almost be like solid truth.

2366
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 5: But then you know, the last couple of years, a

2367
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 5: lot of things happened that that I would have never

2368
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 5: even foreseen because of all the things that he said

2369
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 5: to me. You know, over and over and over again

2370
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 5: that he would never do and some of the things

2371
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 5: were done therefore, you know, who's to say, but the best,

2372
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 5: the best implementation of his legacy would be to have

2373
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 5: the music released, but in a timely manner after it's

2374
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 5: been well curated and and and and you know, all

2375
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 5: the anthology, the prince anthologists that are present or whoever

2376
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 5: needs to be involved with that, knowing what needs to

2377
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 5: what what you know, come to a consensus and agreement

2378
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 5: like my dream and I had I had already. I

2379
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 5: had told him this when we were talking about his

2380
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 5: the day we talked about as well, and he was like,

2381
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 5: oh why because he asked me why he should have

2382
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 5: a will and I'm like, because somebody needs to manage

2383
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 5: your state. And he's like, why you think you're gonna

2384
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 5: manage it? And I was like, you know what, I

2385
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 5: did a really good job. If you were good if

2386
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 5: you ask me the question, He's like, oh, all by yourself,

2387
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 5: and I'm like, no, I would have like a tribe

2388
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 5: of people managing. You would take one old band member,

2389
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,879
Speaker 5: not all of them, because there's a lot of stuff happening,

2390
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 5: and you would rotate. There would be two positions you

2391
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 5: would rotate. It would be the band members and it

2392
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 5: would be maybe some sort of super fan base. The

2393
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 5: other ten they would be executives. There would be you know,

2394
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 5: music and you would be your music industry executives. There

2395
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 5: would be your counterparts like Lenny Kravitz or you know,

2396
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 5: somebody like that. And then you would have you know,

2397
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 5: maybe one former employee. But even that should be rotated

2398
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 5: because power just is strange when it comes to Prince.

2399
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 5: It's where I learned how to hate everybody. So it

2400
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 5: would literally be a tribe of people sort of curating

2401
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 5: and finding the best alternative for you know, because everybody's

2402
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 5: got the version. Well that Prince would never do that, Well, no,

2403
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 5: you wouldn't do it, but he didn't leave direction, so

2404
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 5: you have to take the next best things in order

2405
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 5: to secure his legacy, to move it forward and to

2406
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 5: introduce it to the masses. Like I like Matt too,

2407
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 5: Like when we talk, he tells me something new all

2408
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 5: the time that I didn't know about Prince because I

2409
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 5: only knew the person. Really the musician is something that

2410
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 5: I am still discovering, and that would be like a

2411
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 5: dream to have that sort of cemented, if you know,

2412
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 5: the estake could just sort of set a hard and

2413
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 5: fast guideline or something that's concrete, like a like a

2414
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 5: serious documentary, which I've talked to other people about, and

2415
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 5: something that just takes in everything and you don't have

2416
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 5: there's not enough time to go over it's like a documentary.

2417
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 5: It would be like ten hours. There's just too much.

2418
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 5: He did on so many different levels.

2419
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 7: And I add one or two things real quick. You

2420
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 7: would mention documentary. We were talking earlier about ken Burns

2421
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 7: type thing. It's why I'm watching the One of a

2422
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 7: Vietnam or he did the Jazz one. Imagine a ten

2423
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 7: hour PBS documentary about it. I know, which would be great.

2424
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 7: And I make documentaries for a living. This has to

2425
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 7: be something I would love to do. But one thing

2426
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 7: I wanted to make. You brought something that reminded me

2427
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 7: something that I think has been forgotten. And a lot

2428
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 7: of the stuff that's being done is all the people

2429
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 7: that work for them, the pure and alumni and people

2430
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 7: like that that really were there. Like you were saying,

2431
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people who understand his legacy because

2432
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,800
Speaker 7: of the pocket they were in and to have it,

2433
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 7: and I think that it's going to waste by not

2434
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 7: by the estate, not kind of checking in with some

2435
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 7: of these people. I would love to see them do

2436
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 7: a Prince Day at just for the people who used

2437
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 7: to work for them, and say, you guys can all

2438
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 7: kind of Paisley Park, take out your cameras, take pictures

2439
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 7: and make it like a picnic day for all you

2440
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 7: guys can kind of get back together and have a

2441
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 7: fun day. But it seems to be so secretive right now,

2442
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,240
Speaker 7: and they don't like to do that to me that

2443
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 7: there's engineers and there's band members that have stories to tell.

2444
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 7: And that's one of the reasons I wrote a book,

2445
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 7: and that's one of the reasons we all love articles

2446
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 7: and stuff like this about this stuff. And that's one

2447
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 7: of the reasons you you know, people come on your

2448
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 7: show because we want to hear these stories. And these

2449
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 7: stories are going to die if these aren't told. And

2450
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 7: these stories are what keeps Prince alive. And when I

2451
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 7: hear these, it's like he's back again, and we're never

2452
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 7: going to get him back and again there's never gonna

2453
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 7: be another Prince. So it's up to everybody else to

2454
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 7: tell these stories and to put the pieces together. We're

2455
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 7: never going to get the full picture. But the responsibility

2456
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 7: of everybody right now is to tell the truth and

2457
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 7: to tell what they remember.

2458
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 8: I know, but I'm saying to tell that tell the

2459
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 8: truth as much as they can.

2460
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 5: So many revised historically.

2461
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 7: Well that's true, but I think that people are getting

2462
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 7: ignored and accidentally ignored or actually written off. And there's

2463
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 7: a lot of people that had you know, I would

2464
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,720
Speaker 7: never have known the glass cutter story. And now I'm

2465
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 7: going to always think about that exactly.

2466
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 8: I'd be fired just tag me to it. But but

2467
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 8: I think that there's there's stories like this.

2468
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:05,040
Speaker 7: I mean, somebody, Joe Willis was telling me that there

2469
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 7: was a the song shake. He was gonna make a

2470
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:11,720
Speaker 7: shake in the in the in the kitchen and he

2471
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 7: came up with shake. He's like, I'll be right back,

2472
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 7: and you know, goes so that kind of stuff. There

2473
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 7: was another one somebody told me that the house quake

2474
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 7: was he was walking across the floor going out to

2475
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 7: dinner here in one of the studios and his feet

2476
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 7: made that sound it and and he's like, dinner's off,

2477
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 7: and he went back to the drammon went poop poom,

2478
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 7: you know, and and and you go, you guys always

2479
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 7: feeding the machine.

2480
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 8: So he's always looking.

2481
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 7: For that that, like you said, a casual conversation somebody

2482
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 7: could have, becomes a joke you throw away, becomes a

2483
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 7: song title or becomes a part.

2484
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 5: He's one of my jokes.

2485
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,360
Speaker 8: He would steal this stuff all the time.

2486
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:54,280
Speaker 5: With this song is so good, I'm starting to like ovulate.

2487
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 8: And what do you do?

2488
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,080
Speaker 5: He made it into like a weird lyric. It was

2489
02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 5: terrible exactly he would he would station. I was like, Prince,

2490
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 5: that's not good, that's not good.

2491
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 7: But he would pull this kind of stuff from everybody.

2492
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 7: And and that's one of the fun things is you

2493
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 7: can tell his work based on who was around him.

2494
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 7: You can hear Susan Rodgers influence, you can hear Peggy

2495
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 7: my career influence, you can hear each one of these

2496
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 7: band members that you know, Fink was around for this

2497
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 7: long period and so he's got stories to tell it.

2498
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,520
Speaker 7: Just to me, I think it's almost criminal that that

2499
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:25,760
Speaker 7: these things aren't being well.

2500
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 5: Hopefully, if there's like a documentary that comes.

2501
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 2: Out, documentary just the oral history of print.

2502
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 8: Stories, Yeah that's true.

2503
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start my book right now, but I do

2504
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 5: want to see because I did mention hashtag me too,

2505
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 5: just I don't want to be slight about it at all.

2506
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 5: That Prince, even though you could be slightly misogynistic and

2507
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 5: kind of a jerk sometimes, he was never, ever, ever,

2508
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 5: as far as I know, inappropriate with women. And I

2509
02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 5: just want to put that out there because there's so

2510
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 5: many people like like you know, getting thrown under the

2511
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 5: bus and Dave Chappelle. I just saw him and spend

2512
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 5: some time with him, and you know, he's a lot

2513
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 5: of his comedy is on that. But Prince, even though

2514
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,160
Speaker 5: he was all about the sex and and all kind

2515
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:14,760
Speaker 5: of crazy whatever the wild and crazy songs you were

2516
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 5: talking about with those lyrics, he was never ever not

2517
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 5: to me, not to like, anybody that was involved was

2518
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 5: there because they wanted to be there. He was never inappropriate.

2519
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 5: He was never I.

2520
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 2: Think the majority of his fan base happens to agree

2521
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 2: with you.

2522
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't know how who listens to this,

2523
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 5: and I just want to make that, but I just

2524
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 5: want to make that, like it's like a like a

2525
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,560
Speaker 5: very clear statement about who Prince was. And he was

2526
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 5: always a gentleman. He might have been like, you know,

2527
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 5: an asshole sometimes, but he was never well, you know,

2528
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:48,120
Speaker 5: I definitely learned a few things.

2529
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,240
Speaker 2: From him, but get me some cereal.

2530
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 1: We went on a cereal one night. That was one

2531
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:58,360
Speaker 1: of my favorite. We went to Rouse to get him

2532
02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 1: some cereal. And I thought he did that just to

2533
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 1: break up his suspicion if I was trying to see

2534
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 1: ruth it.

2535
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

2536
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,400
Speaker 5: Now you know what he had. No, he had a

2537
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 5: thing about why isn't talking. He's like, tell him Mary,

2538
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 5: he can't come because he talks too much. He's like

2539
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:17,280
Speaker 5: the pot. He's like, he's like he's like talk Like

2540
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 5: bringing him mirror is like having him go snitch to

2541
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,680
Speaker 5: the police, you know. But then but then he was

2542
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 5: like relenting would be there.

2543
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: All right, Bill, We got to wrap this up. What's

2544
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 1: your wish uh for his legacy?

2545
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 2: I actually would love to It's all pretty much been mentioned.

2546
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 6: But I'd love to see like an app or a

2547
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 6: subscription service that's like based around the app where they

2548
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 6: can continuously rotate content in and out.

2549
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 2: The idea of the MPG Music Club.

2550
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 6: But done properly, but done properly, but done properly, just

2551
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 6: say Jennings.

2552
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 5: But well, I mean, you know, he was that was

2553
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 5: a lot of Prince right, Like you know, Prince wanted

2554
02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 5: to have like those weird whatever that hide and seek things.

2555
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

2556
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 5: I didn't pay attention to that.

2557
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 3: That was another thing that was started and then just.

2558
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 5: Too busy getting cereal or calling yak so.

2559
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:28,160
Speaker 1: Well all closing saying that probably, I mean, yeah, you guys,

2560
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 1: everything that you guys said, of course I agree with.

2561
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 1: I actually say that I want to be selfish enough

2562
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 1: and maybe.

2563
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:37,680
Speaker 2: Grumpy old guy enough.

2564
02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:42,560
Speaker 1: I would like to see the analog version of that

2565
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 1: idea where it's like, maybe it's just me in my

2566
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 1: my middle age wanting to revisit my childhood.

2567
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:53,080
Speaker 2: I don't have room for all that ship.

2568
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 1: We always I'm just saying that for me, especially with

2569
02:05:58,320 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 1: there being two record store Days, you know, I would

2570
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 1: hear a Record Store Days. Yeah, I would like a

2571
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 1: record store series where it's like, you know, all this

2572
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 1: stuff remastered on wax.

2573
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 2: Of course, this stuff.

2574
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: Being you know, we're in forty five culture right now,

2575
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 1: so get the original forty five's reissued the same way mastered,

2576
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, the same way, like the excitement of a

2577
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 1: new Prince forty five coming out, what's on the B side?

2578
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 2: That sort of thing. But even then, men like having.

2579
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 6: You know what, I would rather see that done with

2580
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 6: the new stuff that comes out like in the future,

2581
02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 6: not the old stuff. Like see the new old stuff,

2582
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 6: get a new print song that I've never heard before

2583
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 6: on forty five with well yeah that too.

2584
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, even the stuff that we have, like.

2585
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just saying, there's plenty of you stuff

2586
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:47,160
Speaker 6: out in the world people.

2587
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 5: But you know, Prince didn't like the reason why he

2588
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 5: didn't like the digitized stuff was because of the compression

2589
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 5: and that it would lose the sound and that you

2590
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 5: couldn't hear certain sounds in certain tones, and so it

2591
02:06:57,400 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 5: didn't have the same life as a record does.

2592
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 6: Nowadays though you can stream lossless audio and it's so

2593
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 6: much easier to do then probably.

2594
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 2: Make a Neil Young poem joke.

2595
02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 9: But the Jack White, the way he has his vault,

2596
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 9: like I subscribe to it, my son subscribes to it.

2597
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 3: Those things are amazing. Like every three months you get.

2598
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 9: A ridiculous box that you know, colored vital this that

2599
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 9: books that kind of stuff for guys like us, we

2600
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 9: like this.

2601
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 5: When Tower Records, is it Tower Records that was on

2602
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 5: the corner of something when that when that was going

2603
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:30,480
Speaker 5: out of business Prinson want to buy it?

2604
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 2: You want to buy it?

2605
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:32,960
Speaker 5: An open a record store there, and he's like, and

2606
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 5: I want you to write Oh no.

2607
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, call it recost.

2608
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 5: He wanted to do. Yeah. Well, he also wanted me

2609
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 5: to open a Caroline's out here and I was like, no,

2610
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 5: comedy club. Yeah, he was like, you could be like

2611
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 5: Caroline interesting.

2612
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 1: You know what for all the talk of like question

2613
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:00,760
Speaker 1: you should be there and curat. I don't.

2614
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to be a fan.

2615
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 1: I wanna you know when Records Store Day happens in April.

2616
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 2: I wanna you know.

2617
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 1: The feeling that I had hearing the that that, uh,

2618
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: the reissue of We Can Funk or whatever? Ye like,

2619
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 1: I knew that was the last time that I'd have

2620
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 1: that feeling I had when I was like eleven, like

2621
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:34,040
Speaker 1: hearing the little Recorvette remix for the first time, Like

2622
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 1: what the hell is he.

2623
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 2: Like staring at the speaker. It's hard to please Prince Vance.

2624
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:42,400
Speaker 1: I'll apologize to all the orgers and all the who

2625
02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: what other chat room people and stuff.

2626
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 8: All the Facebook groups.

2627
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,240
Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's no laying they are still around,

2628
02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 1: an't they There's no there's no level of happiness. There's

2629
02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:57,080
Speaker 1: just like making them angry.

2630
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:57,840
Speaker 2: The least.

2631
02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 1: Class half half empty. Now my fans, just like you

2632
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: guys are pretty.

2633
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 3: Much I wonder I wonder about some of those people.

2634
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 2: At the at the end.

2635
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 1: Of the day, this is just just a step back,

2636
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 1: a conversation with with with friends, purple friends, nobody know nothing.

2637
02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:19,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to do that, Michael. I thank you guys

2638
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 2: for thank you.

2639
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:23,320
Speaker 3: Thank you. Let me crash this.

2640
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, this is my PostScript, Ruth. Do

2641
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:31,960
Speaker 1: you have a silly story anything like something super Yah?

2642
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have got one.

2643
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 3: Just yeah.

2644
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 5: Speaking of being traffic yea. So one time the Princess

2645
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 5: driver couldn't pick him up from he was from here. No,

2646
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 5: it isn't from here. It was another studio on the

2647
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,320
Speaker 5: West Side. He was editing the movie that we shall

2648
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 5: not speak of and movie shut up, oscar winning movie,

2649
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,320
Speaker 5: and so I had a hoopie at the time. It

2650
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 5: was an infinity. It was like a nice in the No,

2651
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 5: it was an infinity. It was like he was like

2652
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 5: in two thousand and five, two thousand and six, and

2653
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 5: like I got it at a police action so that

2654
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 5: the front seats were ripped up. Good listen. It was

2655
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 5: on set. I'm like, I like to buy new youths.

2656
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 5: I am frugal with my money anyway. Stupid sometimes, but definitely.

2657
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 5: So I regardless, I was in the car and I

2658
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:25,560
Speaker 5: was like, damn it, I'm in my car. He's gonna

2659
02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:27,280
Speaker 5: call my car. They looked nice from the outside, but

2660
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 5: once you said in it. So I go to the

2661
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:31,080
Speaker 5: trunk and I had some Musicology T shirts in there,

2662
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 5: but this one had like it was like a prototype

2663
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 5: or whatever, and it had his face on it. And

2664
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'll just put the T shirt on because

2665
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 5: I didn't want to slack. I knew what he was

2666
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:40,839
Speaker 5: wearing that day, and he had like some silky slinky

2667
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 5: pants and they're like sky blue, and so I was like, oh,

2668
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 5: he's gonna get all He's gonna be mad if you

2669
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:48,920
Speaker 5: get some snags. So let me put the T shirt on.

2670
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 5: So I go all the way to the west side

2671
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:54,840
Speaker 5: in Santa Monica and I go and you know, where

2672
02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 5: are you?

2673
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:55,480
Speaker 9: Like?

2674
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:58,120
Speaker 5: He's calling me and I'm like I'm driving and he's like, well,

2675
02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 5: I'm ready now. I was like, dude, I'm like it's traffic.

2676
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:03,640
Speaker 5: And I get there and he's standing there waiting for

2677
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 5: me person like sucking in his cheeks and pursing his lips.

2678
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 5: You know, it's just annoy that I was. No, it

2679
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 5: was somewhere in Santa Monica. I can't remember something it

2680
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:17,360
Speaker 5: might have been. So I go and I pick him up,

2681
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 5: and you know, I don't get out of my car

2682
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 5: because it's like, you know, he just walks over to me,

2683
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 5: or he doesn't walk, and Prince never walks. He floats

2684
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,880
Speaker 5: or flutters or whatever it is that he does. And

2685
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 5: then he sort of like appears in the seat. I

2686
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 5: never see him actually get in, and he looks at it.

2687
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:34,640
Speaker 5: He looks at the seat and he sees the T

2688
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:35,920
Speaker 5: shirt there, and I'm like, you have to sit on

2689
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 5: the T shirt because I don't want your clothes to snag.

2690
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 5: And he doesn't say anything. He starts scowling at me,

2691
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:43,440
Speaker 5: and he's struggling with the seatbelts and I'm like, oh,

2692
02:11:43,600 --> 02:11:45,240
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna get the seatbelts. So I reach over

2693
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 5: like a child and I'm like him in. So I

2694
02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:53,960
Speaker 5: buckle him in the car. And then it's it's fresh

2695
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 5: hour traffic. It's like five o'clock in the afternoon, and

2696
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:58,520
Speaker 5: he's sitting in there, and I could tell he's mad,

2697
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 5: and I just see him from like the side of

2698
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 5: my eyes is fingering the the phrase of the of

2699
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 5: the stretched open leather like a like a like pig's guts,

2700
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 5: you know. He's like just touching it. And he's like,

2701
02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 5: why did not Stacy Snyder or Ali Shermer buy you

2702
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 5: a new car? And I'm like what. And he's like,

2703
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:22,040
Speaker 5: why didn't your old bosses buy you a new car?

2704
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:24,760
Speaker 5: And I'm like, that's that's that's none of how it works, Brince,

2705
02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 5: like unless it's a company car, Like why would they?

2706
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:29,400
Speaker 2: Why would they buy me a new car?

2707
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 5: And I was like, I won't you buy me a

2708
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,280
Speaker 5: new car? And he's like, you shouldn't be riding around

2709
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:35,360
Speaker 5: a car like this, and I'm like, why it runs?

2710
02:12:36,080 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 5: And he was like look around and we were like

2711
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 5: in you know, deadlock traffic, and he's like, do you

2712
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 5: think anyone would believe that Prince is in this car?

2713
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:46,200
Speaker 9: Right?

2714
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:57,360
Speaker 10: No, they were tinted, and so it was a long

2715
02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:00,360
Speaker 10: it's a long story, but it's a long ass trip

2716
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:05,120
Speaker 10: back to freaking Beverly Hills or wherever he was staying out.

2717
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 5: He was standing at the Boozer House some stories at

2718
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:08,040
Speaker 5: the Boozer House too.

2719
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:11,040
Speaker 2: Did you ever get the car from him?

2720
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:13,520
Speaker 5: No, but I did. I did end up getting and

2721
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:15,160
Speaker 5: he's like when he when I dropped him off. I

2722
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 5: finally dropped him off, and he was like because he started,

2723
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 5: you know with there were people walking by, like he

2724
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 5: would taut people and he would like look at them,

2725
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 5: and people would double take because it was odd to

2726
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:29,560
Speaker 5: see somebody like him and then look and then and

2727
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:31,160
Speaker 5: then they would go back and be like, oh no,

2728
02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 5: it's just something dude that looks He's like, see see

2729
02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:38,720
Speaker 5: nobody believes princes in the car, he would think, but

2730
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 5: there was something about it. But we had like there

2731
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 5: was another like they had a couple of car things,

2732
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:45,920
Speaker 5: like there was one time that we were in the

2733
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 5: car with guy Siri and he rolls down the limo

2734
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:51,040
Speaker 5: window because he's these kids in the car next to us.

2735
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:55,400
Speaker 5: They're singing loud. They're like and he rolls down guys

2736
02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 5: trying to talk. He has a meeting with him in

2737
02:13:57,760 --> 02:14:00,919
Speaker 5: the limo, and he rolls down the limo like halfway

2738
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:04,720
Speaker 5: and it goes. He looks over them and he just goes.

2739
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:10,400
Speaker 5: He puts a shush, but he doesn't say it. He

2740
02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 5: just goes like this.

2741
02:14:11,560 --> 02:14:21,839
Speaker 11: The kids turn around and they go, oh wow.

2742
02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:27,320
Speaker 5: Guy Series talking to him like I couldn't stop. I

2743
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:28,080
Speaker 5: started cracking out.

2744
02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:32,400
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, that's a great note to end or.

2745
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,000
Speaker 1: All Right, ladies and gentlemen, this is Quest Love signing

2746
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:37,600
Speaker 1: off Quest Love Supreme.

2747
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:39,240
Speaker 2: We will see you on the next go round.

2748
02:14:39,520 --> 02:14:39,920
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2749
02:14:51,160 --> 02:14:54,480
Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. This

2750
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:57,600
Speaker 1: classic episode was produced by in the team at the Indor.

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02:15:01,720 --> 02:15:06,480
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02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:08,280
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