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Speaker 4: So before we talk about baseball, the NBA playoffs are

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Speaker 3: The conspiracy theories were flying. I was reading an article.

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Speaker 3: But do you think that something is getting rigged. It's

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Speaker 2: It's not the cold ping pong ball, the frozen ping

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Speaker 3: Theories that you can rig the ping pong balls.

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Speaker 1: There was there's a whole thing about it. If you

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Speaker 1: All it really needs to be is is is a couple? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: What about for tanking teams? You gotta trust the process.

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Speaker 1: With the White that's the White Sox and the Rockies

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Speaker 2: For six they're losing. They're losing a lot of games.

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Speaker 3: Now they're losing a lot of games. We're going to

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Speaker 4: All right, Let's charge the mound and talk about the

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Speaker 4: top record in Major League Baseball, right, yeah, talking about

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Speaker 4: and that record belongs to the Detroit Tigers twenty nine

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Speaker 1: It was one of the better catches. It was one

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Speaker 1: Now you've seen guys pop him up and in the

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Speaker 2: It was just it was. It was one of the

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Speaker 1: And but the interesting part about the Tiger's winning, our

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Speaker 6: They're really good, fun to watch. They're fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: There's no they make adjustments. I know, big leag teams

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Speaker 5: They're fun to.

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Speaker 3: Watch, obviously. Scoobles being Scoobale.

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Speaker 1: The Tigers are the Tigers. It's hard for me not

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Speaker 2: It's hard to. I mean they are. I think they are.

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Speaker 1: The Tigers are like the young, energetic, and the Yankees

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Speaker 2: We'll see, but I love the Tigers.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's much easier to start looking at

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Speaker 2: Do we buy them?

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Speaker 4: How about the Red Sox getting swept just now by

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Speaker 5: In the final game of the series.

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Speaker 6: You gotta beat You gotta take one out of these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean.

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Speaker 3: Just throwing it out there.

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Speaker 2: Three nothing. By the way, Twinkies Buckson just went deep again.

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Speaker 3: Later in the show, we're going to talk about that series,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Great I love it.

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Speaker 1: This is one thing that's come out of Schooble since

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Speaker 2: It's awesome. He's been he's been running his mouth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, take a damn pitch.

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Speaker 5: Because the contracted the Tigers offered.

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Speaker 3: He took a pitch down the pipe.

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Speaker 2: Then he got a hit anyway, so it didn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: Second pitch got him.

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Speaker 2: He had already gone deep off of.

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Speaker 4: Them, right, and then did you see what he said

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Speaker 4: It's this funny starcasm and I love it regularly.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Let him talk a little bit. I mean it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 3: No, it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: To me, it means you're totally comfortable in your skin

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Speaker 4: around something true. True, But is there a better example?

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Speaker 4: I my point, GRIFU be kind of the one, right.

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Speaker 3: I deserve to be in the starting lineup.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he did or not. All I

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Speaker 6: Like if a completely average to below average player is,

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Speaker 5: A good look.

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Speaker 6: That's that's the stuff that those guys the stars can do. Me,

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Speaker 6: you go out there, you're joking, like I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying hi to the first baseman, you know, if

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Speaker 5: That postgame outside of the field. Absolutely, but take him

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Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman.

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Speaker 5: Lets you.

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Speaker 1: Roger McDowell used to get so mad, and now Roger,

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Speaker 1: I love you to death. He was one of my

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Speaker 4: First baseman, though, often can have the most fun because

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Speaker 1: But we had Scott Miller on yesterday, right and he

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Speaker 4: It was just a point to me, there's a difference

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the separation for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot of guys throw at me,

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Speaker 1: So if I got mad at everybody, if I got

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Speaker 2: Threw at me, I couldn't talk to anybody.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the time I felt like it was

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Speaker 4: It's like, hey, I don't want you to do something

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Speaker 3: I didn't like that.

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Speaker 5: But no off hitting somebody.

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Speaker 6: To me, if I knew that about a pitcher, I

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Like getting hit is I get it. People can get hurt.

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Speaker 6: It's not a big deal. It's not that big of

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Speaker 3: Now, okay, yeah, as long as you know where it's going.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Roger McDowell was the magic Lookiekui if

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Speaker 3: I do. I saw it, but man, it's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: Remember somebody spin on? It was on Kramer and it

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Speaker 5: Back in the left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were doing that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to be like the JFK like magic

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Speaker 4: in the Orioles. They're finishing up their series right now.

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Speaker 4: Shocker Twins are winning again. They've won twenty at twin

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Speaker 4: ten games in a row, ten games.

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Speaker 5: In a row.

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Speaker 2: It would be eleven probably here, this could be eleven.

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Speaker 4: And last year they actually did have a big winning

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Speaker 4: Or are we going to be talking about the Oriel

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's getting late early in Baltimore.

446
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Speaker 4: And you mentioned this yesterday when we got off the

447
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Speaker 4: show and we were taking a peek at the game

448
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Speaker 4: because it was going on.

449
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Speaker 3: It's a day game midweek. But if you win, they

450
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 3: will show up.

451
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Speaker 4: If you don't, then let me take you a few

452
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Speaker 4: years back to when the team tanked.

453
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Speaker 1: And I was I used to dread going to Baltimore

454
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Speaker 1: because there was not a lot of people there. No,

455
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Speaker 1: it was seven thousand degrees in Baltimore. You always get

456
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Speaker 1: at least one day game there and there was nobody

457
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Speaker 1: there and it was a raindelate. Every single time. We're like, gosh,

458
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get rangelated in Baltimore. But yeah, I mean, listen,

459
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Speaker 1: they're fifteen and twenty six. They lose right now, they're

460
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Speaker 1: fifteen and t twenty seven. That is that we're not

461
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Speaker 1: talking like, Okay, the Brave started out Owen seven. They

462
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 1: played the Dodgers potterish seven. Fine, they got plenty, they

463
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: got one hundred fifty five games. We're past the quarter point.

464
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: Now you're it's starting. It's as Yogi Bear said, it's

465
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: getting late early, big fellow.

466
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Speaker 3: What was the Astros record last year that was bad?

467
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Speaker 3: Wasn't it sixteen and twenty six? Or was it? Does

468
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Speaker 3: that sound right? I'll find it.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they weren't in the AOL East.

470
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Speaker 3: That's that was what I wanted to make.

471
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Speaker 6: And they had pitching, yeah, and they had starting pitching.

472
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Speaker 6: They didn't just have Sigano. Sigano's throat was thrown today.

473
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Speaker 6: I don't know if he's still in the game or not.

474
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Speaker 6: But that was their that was their chance. That was

475
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Speaker 6: their guy.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is bad. This is bad. This

477
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Speaker 2: is bad. If you're an Raals fan, I'm sorry. This

478
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 2: is bad. This is what we said going in a

479
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: year though, Right, it's bad.

480
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 6: Says that we didn't think it was gonna be bad.

481
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Speaker 6: It's bad, Like, yes, the starting pitching is bad. They

482
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Speaker 6: didn't end up getting the guys that we thought they

483
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Speaker 6: should have gotten or they were trying to go get.

484
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Speaker 6: They missed out on different things. I get that, but

485
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Speaker 6: we thought the pitching with the starting pitching wasn't gonna

486
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Speaker 6: be great and then Grayson goes down.

487
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Speaker 5: But where are.

488
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Speaker 6: Some of the guys in this lineup you talk about?

489
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Speaker 6: We just talked about Max and like hitting together as

490
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Speaker 6: a team, figuring this stuff out. Is it something that

491
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Speaker 6: this lineup has not like learned to hit with each other?

492
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Speaker 6: But they did hit. I mean, Gunner was an MVP

493
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Speaker 6: candidate last year, and it's just what is what is it?

494
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Speaker 6: I know people are gonna say their expected numbers are

495
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Speaker 6: just through the roof. They should be doing so much better,

496
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Speaker 6: but they're not.

497
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Speaker 4: We had a lot of fly balls two hundred and

498
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Speaker 4: fifty to three hundred feet.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that, I mean the offense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask this and I've said this, We've been

501
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Speaker 1: saying this rong.

502
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Speaker 2: What's wrong with Adley Ritchman. It's been almost a year now.

503
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Speaker 1: I mean we're not talking like a couple of weeks

504
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Speaker 1: or we're going to this second half of June around

505
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 1: June first last year and we're almost a June first again.

506
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Speaker 1: You look at his numbers. I don't know what happened.

507
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: I had I love you, I really want you to

508
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: be better because you are so fun to watch, and

509
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: you're right, but.

510
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: What happened there?

511
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Speaker 1: Like Gunner's if you look at their lineup, there's one

512
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Speaker 1: guy that's doing really well. It's Gunnar Henderson. The rest

513
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: of that lineup is not in a good place right now.

514
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: You're right, read the ops isn't read all that. I mean,

515
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: it's it's not a good lineup right now. I'm sorry.

516
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Speaker 2: It's just not.

517
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Speaker 3: On the year.

518
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Speaker 4: I would say probably the other one that stands out.

519
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Speaker 4: And I'm looking at the numbers so I don't sound stupid, Yeah,

520
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Speaker 4: I'm right. Cedric Mullins is also looking pretty good.

521
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Speaker 1: Well, Heart's having a nice year, yeah, right, but it's

522
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Speaker 1: not enough, no, I mean Cursed Ads six twenty six, Obs,

523
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Speaker 1: you know, Rutchman six twenty three, Holiday seven oh one, Okay,

524
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Speaker 1: Mountcastle six point fifteen, Mullins is seven eighty one and

525
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Speaker 1: that you know, and you O'Hearn eight ninety three. He's

526
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Speaker 1: having a really nice year.

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

528
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Speaker 2: Their whole thing, right was supposed to be they can

529
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Speaker 2: out slug you.

530
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Speaker 4: Last year they had a top five offense. I watched

531
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Speaker 4: Fair Territory. Ken Rosenthal talked about this this year. I

532
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Speaker 4: think they ranked twenty fifth right now in Runsberg game.

533
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Speaker 4: So it's all falling apart right now. And does it

534
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Speaker 4: Mattercrats that they're often down in this exact scenario.

535
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Speaker 3: This is what happens in.

536
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Speaker 4: So many games already this year. You're down three to

537
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Speaker 4: nothing mid game. Obviously, yes they should be scoring two.

538
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 4: But it do feel like they're playing behind so frequently

539
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 4: due to the starting pitching deficiency.

540
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Speaker 6: Yes, but to me, when you're on team like that,

541
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Speaker 6: it's July that that shows up.

542
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 5: You're not like.

543
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 6: Exhausted from the same thing happening over and over again

544
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 6: in the first forty games of the year.

545
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Speaker 5: Like if you're in July and you're like, oh.

546
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Speaker 6: We got a lead, we got a one run lead

547
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Speaker 6: in the seventh, and then your bullpen has just habitually

548
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 6: blown it all season, and then two then you're a rundown.

549
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 6: They give up a two run homer and you're a rundown.

550
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 6: That's when you're like, uh, deflating. This team is built

551
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Speaker 6: on the offense. These are young dudes that are playing

552
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 6: every single day and they need to step up and

553
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 6: make their expected batting averages and balls in play and

554
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 6: all these expected stats turn into W's or else. It

555
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 6: is way too late.

556
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Speaker 4: They also didn't develop on the pitching side like many

557
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: thought they would. Chase McDermott was supposed to be a

558
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Speaker 4: mid rotation guy. I think he's been hurt. I think

559
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: he's still hurt. Kid Povich hasn't worked out yet. So

560
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Speaker 4: some of the guys, and he's twenty five, Some of

561
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Speaker 4: the guys that they expected on the pitching side just

562
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Speaker 4: haven't developed. Of course, the headliner there is our boy,

563
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Speaker 4: Grayson Rodriguez. Money when he's there. He just hasn't been

564
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Speaker 4: able to figure out how to stay on the field.

565
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Speaker 4: So when you add those guys up the development sides

566
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Speaker 4: of problem. They're making mistakes on who they're selecting in

567
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 4: free agency with the starting rotation, and that becomes a mess.

568
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: You have a slow start on offense. Now you have

569
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Speaker 4: a disaster. That's where we're at right now.

570
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Speaker 5: And what do they do though?

571
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Speaker 2: What's the answer this year? Nothing?

572
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 5: Right?

573
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Speaker 3: What can they do?

574
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Speaker 4: You're not trading for a starter right now. Nobody makes

575
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Speaker 4: trades in May anymore. I think unless they go on

576
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: a heater krats there might be eight games under five

577
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Speaker 4: hundred sel City in late June, early July.

578
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Speaker 5: Do you believe this team can go on a heater.

579
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Speaker 2: Not the way they're pitching is lined up right now.

580
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: Not with the pitching. No, because you can get stopped. Okay,

581
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 4: you can get stopped in five seconds with a bat outing.

582
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Speaker 4: No matter how hot you are, you can lose ten eight.

583
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Speaker 4: So me, no, I don't see them doing ten plus

584
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Speaker 4: in a row right now. Maybe in like August or

585
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: September if everybody's back, But man, I mean you might

586
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Speaker 3: In the Weeds. Let's do quarter mark grades.

597
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: Okay, CBS Sports put out grades, and I think the

598
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 4: best way to tackle this is to show you league

599
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Speaker 4: by league, So we'll start with the National League.

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Speaker 3: The grades Digest.

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Speaker 4: Let me know where you think they went very wrong,

602
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 4: or you can agree with them on some things too.

603
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: Let's start with the National League Crats, Slice and Dice,

604
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Speaker 4: and I'll say this for the podcast crowd who's listening. Cubs, Dodgers,

605
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: Padres met to get a's. There's b pluses for the Phillies, Giants,

606
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: and the Cardinals, the Diamondbacks, gotta b c's for the

607
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: Reds and Brewers. D's for the Braves, Marlins and Nationals.

608
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: F's for the Rockies and the Pirates. Christ do you

609
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: want to pick on one first?

610
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Speaker 6: You know what, I would say, one of those a's

611
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 6: needs to have a plus beside it, and to me

612
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 6: it's the Padres. I think what the Padres have done,

613
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Speaker 6: I get it there, and they've had.

614
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Speaker 5: An A first quarter.

615
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 6: But with what they have with the with the people

616
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Speaker 6: who they've lost, Jackson, Merrill, Muscrove's not there right now, you,

617
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Speaker 6: Darvis hasn't thrown a pitch yet, they have absolutely had

618
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Speaker 6: an A plus first quarter because what they're doing is

619
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Speaker 6: they're setting a different precedent for that division that it's

620
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Speaker 6: not just gonna be the Dodgers. And to me, the

621
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 6: Dodgers were supposed to be there. So in their account

622
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 6: were they supposed to be a B? And you know what,

623
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Speaker 6: the Rockies shouldn't get an F. The Rockies shouldn't even

624
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Speaker 6: be They should just get an NA or what did

625
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 6: they put on your report card when you an I incomplete?

626
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 5: They didn't get a great? Yeah, they dropped out. They

627
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: clearly have dropped out of school expelled.

628
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: Hey for me, I know this sounds.

629
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Speaker 2: Like Arizona to me, shouldn't have a B.

630
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: What should they have?

631
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Speaker 1: They should be a C because they should be better

632
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Speaker 1: than what they are. To me, they should be a

633
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: better team than what they are. They're twenty three and

634
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: twenty one, and I mean, I know they've had some injuries,

635
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: but every team's had injuries, you know. But Edward Rodriguez

636
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: hasn't pitched very well, Corbyn Burns, you know, they haven't

637
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: pitched the way we thought they would pitch going into

638
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: this year. That's they're negative rounder differential. I know you

639
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: don't care, Scott, but that's telling right now. It's surprising me.

640
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: They do play the Rockies though, coming up, so they've

641
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: got a shout to win three in a row, not.

642
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: To get hot, But how did they get a B

643
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: and the Braves get a D when they're missing their

644
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Speaker 4: two best players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. San Francisco to me, should be an

646
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Speaker 2: A too.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they're doing as well as they are, agreed,

648
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: because no one thought they'd be until.

649
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Speaker 5: I mean, they got B plus.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but I don't know Saint Louis should be

651
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Speaker 1: an A too, because nobody thought they were gonna be

652
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Speaker 1: where they are either. I mean, you can't give everyone as,

653
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Speaker 1: but in today's world you might as well.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think you could make a case for the Marlins

656
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Speaker 4: maybe getting a C. I thought they'd be worse. They're

657
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Speaker 4: playing just as well as the Nationals right now. They're

658
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Speaker 4: pretty much neck and neck those two teams. They're game

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Speaker 4: part do you think the Nationals?

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Speaker 6: I think, based on what we see, it's less expectations

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Speaker 6: and more just how each team is playing. So that's

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Speaker 6: why I don't disagree with too many of them. Like

663
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Speaker 6: the teams that have the f's are f teams if

664
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Speaker 6: you take away expectation. I think a lot of this

665
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 6: list is spot on.

666
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: But about the American League and A for the Tigers

667
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: and A minus for the Mariners, B plus for the

668
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Speaker 4: A Guardians, Yankees and Royals get Bees, Red Sox, Astros, Twins,

669
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: White Sox, Blue Jays get c's C minus for the Rangers,

670
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: Angels and Rays get DS.

671
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: The Orioles get an F.

672
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna go to my White Sox. How

673
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: do they get a C?

674
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Speaker 1: They're just as bad as we thought they'd be, right,

675
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better.

676
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Speaker 3: But fourteen and twenty nine, how do they get a SEA?

677
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, isn't are the expectations to lose

678
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten games?

679
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: Again, that's kind of what the pace they're on.

680
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so that's C like to me that it

681
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: should be lower. I mean Texas to me C minus,

682
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I get it, there should be higher. To me, the

683
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Angels are about where they are. Baltimore definitely deserves an

684
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: F for what we've talked about. But I don't know.

685
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean the Angels at Tampa Bay, I don't know.

686
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're a little there's some of them that

687
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: are that are questionable, like.

688
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: Houston C.

689
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

690
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: The Rangers are twenty three and twenty one.

691
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: It's not quick, it's not horrible, and they're they're right

692
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: in the division race.

693
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little harsh. I guess everyone thought they

694
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: were gonna run away with it, So I don't know.

695
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 6: I think I think, I think the expectations on some

696
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 6: of these put them where they are right now, because

697
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 6: I mean, the White Sox should be in the D

698
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 6: or F range just based on the fact that they're

699
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 6: not a good baseball team, but on expectations, they're definitely

700
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 6: a C, if not a B. I mean they've they've,

701
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 6: you know, soward past my expectations. To me, I think

702
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 6: the Yankees nine, Yes, that's I thought they were going.

703
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: To lose two.

704
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: That's losing two out of every three games. That means

705
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: they lose a hundred again. That's that's what they're That

706
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: should never be the expectation. See she means it should

707
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: never be your expectation that we're gonna lose a hundred

708
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: games again. That should not be I'm sorry. There should

709
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: be no team in Major League Baseball that goes into

710
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: a season says we're trying to lose a hundred games

711
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: this year.

712
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: But they're grading what the roster looks like, and.

713
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: I know what they're grading from where it was last year.

714
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: I get it all, but still.

715
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: They're not grading the organization that. If you want to

716
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 4: do that, we've got plenty of f's to hand out.

717
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 6: They are a worst team. They were built to be

718
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 6: a worst team this year. They got rid of Garrett Crochet,

719
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 6: Eric Fetti, they want to get rid of Luis Robert. Like,

720
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 6: there's no way you can say, eh, you know what,

721
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 6: I think they just they want to they want to

722
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 6: win one hundred games, or they want to lose just

723
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 6: one hundred games. There's no way they would be happy

724
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 6: with if they lose one hundred and ten based on

725
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 6: what they put into this team to win. I thought

726
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 6: the Yankees should be in the A category. They lost

727
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 6: their ace to start the year, and maybe people will say,

728
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 6: well without Aaron Judge, Well, who cares they have Aaron Judge?

729
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 6: To me, I think Aaron Judge puts them squarely in

730
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 6: the A. If you want to, they're not as good

731
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 6: as a Tigers, so you give them an A minus.

732
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Speaker 5: Great.

733
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: Also, injury update, Ben Joyce done for the season, So

734
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: there's al E Gonzalez, super hard throwing reliever Ben Joyce

735
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: season ending shoulder surgery.

736
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: Today. The Angels announced that sucks.

737
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Angels aren't doing anything this year,

738
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: but just fun to watch a dude who can pump

739
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: one oh five plus that that also could lead to injury.

740
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 6: It's not just it's really hard to sustain that. The

741
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 6: one guy and he's kept his velocity is e Roaldist Chapman.

742
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 6: Go look at his physique and then tell me, you

743
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 6: know what, it's gonna be tough to stay healthy throwing

744
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 6: one hundred and five. And that's maybe a bad narrative

745
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: by me because he worked really hard to get his

746
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 6: velocity up to where it was, and so crazy to

747
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 6: think a dude throwing ninety seven can jump his velocity

748
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: eight miles an hour his peak velocity eight miles an hour.

749
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 4: I will say Ben Joyce is a pretty built dude.

750
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think he stacks up against the

751
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: raldist Chapman, but I mean if you look him up online,

752
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 4: they're basically the same or all this is lit did

753
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: six four two thirty five.

754
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: Ben Joyce is listed six five two five.

755
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: So it's not like you're looking at a guy, you

756
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 4: know who is six' one one eighty being, like, hey

757
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: this guy shouldn't be pumping one oh five or he's

758
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 4: gonna get. Hurt we also just don't know how all

759
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: this stuff works too.

760
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: WELL i mean he also just could have gotten, hurt

761
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: have a shoulder.

762
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: Injury guys get.

763
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: Hurt guys throw eighty five at get shoulder.

764
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 5: Injuries we need to figure it.

765
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: Out, yeah, shame but it's like what else can they?

766
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: Do?

767
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Though Ben joyce's a. Reliever he doesn't pitch every, day,

768
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: right they protected him as much as they. Could they were,

769
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: like he's not gonna throw back to back games and

770
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: this and. THAT i mean maybe, again maybe we don't throw,

771
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: enough just saying.

772
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 8: So but the cons are being, reliever you get paid

773
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 8: the least of any other role in the. Field, like by,

774
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 8: far relief pitchers are the least paid guys on the whole,

775
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 8: team on every. Team, Right you're if you have a

776
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 8: really good, closer he might be like fifth on the

777
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 8: team and pay, maybe, right you might get a closer,

778
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 8: paid but nobody else is getting remotely as much money

779
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 8: as anybody. ELSE a great reliever contracts like three for twenty.

780
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 8: Five if you get three year deals a, reliever you

781
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 8: are doing, it doing. It you're paid the. Least and

782
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 8: for the casual, fans the fans that just kind of

783
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 8: don't watch as much baseball that maybe don't value relievers very.

784
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 8: Much you're either just doing your, job which is throwing, one,

785
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 8: two three, innings or you're blowing, it so you're either,

786
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 8: whatever he's just doing what he's paid to, do or you.

787
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 8: Suck that sounds a lot like a kicker to. Me

788
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 8: that's why relievers are just the kickers a baseball in my.

789
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 8: OPINION i said that a lot of. It said, again

790
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 8: there's also no above and, Beyond like in the same

791
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 8: way that you're either just doing your job or you're.

792
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 8: Terrible it's kind of hard to get any recognition for

793
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 8: doing anything. Correct like you have to like not give

794
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 8: up a run for four, months which is really hard to.

795
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 8: Do and that's the only way anyone notices, you basically

796
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 8: if you're not a. Closer, now closers are in their

797
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 8: own little, group and we've talked a lot about that about,

798
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 8: that But i'm just talking most. Relievers seven of the

799
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 8: eight guys out there are in this.

800
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: Bucket trevor may May da mas plaining really. Good this

801
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 4: is exactly the WAY i wanted this to. Go by the,

802
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: way check out his show On. Mondays it's really. Good

803
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: it's live and then we've got it afterwards.

804
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: Too.

805
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: KRATZ i see a puzzled, face AND i think it's

806
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: the same face THAT i had WHILE i was watching the.

807
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: Clip it's a wait reliever or backup.

808
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 6: Catcher don't even don't even point at, me point at this.

809
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 6: Guy this guy was An All. Star this guy played

810
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 6: every single. Day catching is easily the least paid position in,

811
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 6: baseball even for the best, catchers for what they, do

812
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 6: what they bring to the, field easily the lowest paid.

813
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 6: Relievers look at the rays if you were not the.

814
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 6: Closer the rays are just like we got more In TRIPLE.

815
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 6: A we got more in TRIPLE. A we'll just get another.

816
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: One especially now everybody throws hard like relievers. ARE i

817
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 6: call relievers regional sports network, fans because every team knows they're, seventh, eighth, sixth,

818
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 6: seventh eighth and nine are, sixth seventh and eighth reliever

819
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 6: inning relievers because they watch you every single, night and

820
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 6: those are the dudes that they're going to in big.

821
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 5: Wins maybe nationally they don't know, you but.

822
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: Listen catchers have gotten. Better, yeah but also the problem

823
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: with the catchers in the relievers. Too catchers are compared

824
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: to every other. Position but it's not fair because catchers

825
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: don't get to play and put up the numbers because

826
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: you don't get to play one hundred and fifty, games

827
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty. Games if you get to one,

828
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: thirty you've had unbelievable year as a.

829
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: Catcher one. Twenty if you get over one hundred games

830
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: is a year as a, catcher you're doing a, lot.

831
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Okay and so that was the argument for, years even

832
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: like we Had Brad.

833
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Buono we're talking about war like you starting playing, war

834
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: but you're not war against other.

835
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: Catchers you're against the rest of the.

836
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: League and that's not a fair comparison because you can't

837
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: get up to. It you just never can make up

838
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: because you don't get enough.

839
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: Games that's why WHEN i go over a stat like

840
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: ops plus when we talk, CATCHERS i go.

841
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: In ops plus isn't against catchers, only that's my se

842
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: against the.

843
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: League it should be against other.

844
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: Catchers if your ops plus is one hundred as a,

845
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: catcher which is league, average you are above average because

846
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: catchers are not going to hit like. That, generally you

847
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: should be compared in a different, realm right because you

848
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: can't just grab a guy Like Raphael. DEVERS i, mean

849
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: maybe they'll ask him to catch if they get a

850
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: catching injury. Joke you can't just grab a guy exactly.

851
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: Already you can't grab a guy and just throw him

852
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: in that. Position it doesn't, happen, right never do.

853
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 6: Stop just like short, stop you can't just grab a

854
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 6: guy and say you're a big league. Shortstop you can

855
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: play shortstop in the big, leagues doesn't make you a

856
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 6: big league short. Stop you can catch in the big,

857
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 6: leagues that doesn't make you a big league.

858
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: Catcher.

859
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: True, yeah some relievers get, paid some catchers get. Paid

860
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: the thing with catchers is that teams generally say in

861
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: the model that they're going to wear. Down there's a

862
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 4: few outliers that, don't and that's why They it's hard

863
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: to get a long term contract as a, catcher right mm,

864
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 4: hmm especially in free. Agency Like Alejandro kirk got. Paid

865
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: he's still in the midst of his service. Time right,

866
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: control team control when you have. Agency, yeah REMEMBER jt Real,

867
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: Muto like he finally signed back With.

868
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Philly nobody was out, there nobody wanted. Him his agent said.

869
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Speaker 4: It Jeff barry's been on this Show he's, like nobody

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Speaker 4: called FOR.

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Speaker 3: Jt Real muto in his.

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00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: Prime nobody called and they had to go back to

873
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: The phillies like, okay and The phillies obviously were, like

874
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: we'll give you what we think's fair, value but there

875
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: was no other team to even use as.

876
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: Leverage that's when the.

877
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 6: Teams and players meet up and lock up on extensions

878
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 6: before it. Happens it makes sense for the, catcher it

879
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 6: makes sense for the, team and they get a team

880
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 6: the team friendly. Price catchers get more long, term long

881
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 6: term equity in the, team and they get it longer

882
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 6: than they probably would get it if they go to free.

883
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: Agency, Yep i'm with, you.

884
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 8: All.

885
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: Right we got a few. Minutes do you want me

886
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: to ask you A Bonds rose? Question you don't feel

887
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 4: like gone?

888
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: There?

889
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: No?

890
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 4: Fine so moral who in the chat said he just

891
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: wants to know what's the logic with?

892
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: Bonds?

893
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 5: Yes?

894
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: Rose, No, well my thing, Is i've said it over

895
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: and over. Again here's here's my, logic AND i said it.

896
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: Yesterday if you get caught for doing steroids after they started,

897
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: TESTING i have no idea what guys were doing before,

898
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: that BUT i know if you got pop for doing,

899
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: steroids then you should not be in the whole. Thing

900
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: that's my stance as a former. PLAYER i played in

901
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: the steroid, ERA i played after the steroid. ERA i

902
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: mixed them. BOTH i know guys that did. THEM i

903
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: know guys that were doing them. After, okay some got,

904
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: caught some. Didn't, right but if you got pop you

905
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: shouldn't be.

906
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: In that's.

907
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: It and my thing With pete Why pete is it

908
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: because he broke the golden. Rule you don't, gamble that's.

909
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: It that's.

910
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: It and and by the, way don't tell me if

911
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: you want to use the bonds can't be in because

912
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: of what he. Did pete wasn't clean, either he said.

913
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: IT i mean he was popping, amphetamines, RIGHT i mean

914
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: it pretty much everybody in that whole era.

915
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: Knew, that but so many guys. Were for some, People but.

916
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: That's that's my.

917
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: Thing IF i don't know that you got, that you

918
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: were doing it unless you got that positive.

919
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 5: Test this is just.

920
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Me and AGAIN i don't people say whatever they, want

921
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: but unless if you got, popped you're out for, Me i'm,

922
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: sorry because you willingly then were breaking the, rules just

923
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: Like Pete rose when he gambled on. Baseball he was

924
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: willingly breaking the rules of. Baseball before they did, testing

925
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: there was no rule of baseball saying you couldn't do.

926
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: It it was against the, law, yes but in baseball

927
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't against the rules of. Baseball gambling was against

928
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: the rules of, baseball right, Right and then once you

929
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: start testing first.

930
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: Stuff that's against the rules of. Baseball, yeah that's WHERE

931
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: i drag the. Line Maybe i'm. Wrong that's, fine it's my.

932
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: Opinion that's WHERE i, stand And i'll die on that.

933
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: Sort but that's, good by the. Way that's a little more.

934
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: Positive some great birthdays.

935
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: Today what do you Got John, Smoltz George, Brett Justin,

936
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Morno Josh, Beckett.

937
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: We Get smaltz back, on it's been a, minute.

938
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: And Ask Steve woodard who went on on a recruiting

939
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: visits with me back in high.

940
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: School. Hinch Also hinch's.

941
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Birthdayday But Steve woodard THREW bp to me WHEN i

942
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: won The hall Of fame home run.

943
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: Derby he threw THE bp to.

944
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: Me pretty solid, Legend.

945
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: Hinch, yeah we don't know his first, name But hinch.

946
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: ALSO i got one for.

947
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: You So Dalton rushing has been known as one of

948
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 4: the best catching prospects in baseball for a, while and

949
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: The dodgers are kind of just, like you don't have

950
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: a lot of. Room he's not gonna be a started right,

951
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: now obviously with Will smith there signed for, life but

952
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: he has nothing left to, prove so they call him,

953
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: up and you, Know Alding gonzalez said he'll get some

954
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: time behind the, plate occasionally be called upon to pinch,

955
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: hit but mostly one of the game's brightest prospects will.

956
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: Sit and his quote, Was i'm the young. Guy that's my.

957
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: Job don't understand. It what don't you understand WHY i

958
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: call him? Up he's not gonna, play Right why call him?

959
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: Up he's gonna get a start once or twice a.

960
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Week, yeah but, no he's getting he was getting five

961
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: or six a week and.

962
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: Triple a you.

963
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: Guys, okay, guys when are you calling him?

964
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: Up you're trading.

965
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: Him so every catcher that's in the system for The

966
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: dodgers needs to just keep getting traded.

967
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Pretty much when you sign your catcher to a ten year. Deal, okay, yeah, right.

968
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 9: CRATS i mean unless, now like he's, not he would

969
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 9: have to absolutely annihilate The baseball to take Over Will

970
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 9: smith's job for like a. Year and if you have

971
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 9: him taking Over Austin barnes', job you are totally demeaning

972
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 9: the value of who this guy. IS a TWENTY i

973
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 9: think he had twenty six homers last year in the

974
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 9: bushes like this dude clearly.

975
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 4: Rakes what else do you Want Dalton rushing to? Do

976
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 4: and if you're, him what do you want to?

977
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: Do you want to get traded to a place you

978
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: can go, play.

979
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: Okay but there's no trades In, may.

980
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: Okay so you play it out Till june And. July

981
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: when The dodgers need, something they trade. Him he's the

982
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: number one piece.

983
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: Of truth twenty four years. Old can he be on

984
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: the big big League.

985
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: Clayah but you don't want. To if he's as good

986
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: as everyone, says he's gonna get. Stunted so he backs

987
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: Up Will smith for the next five. Years like he

988
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: gets to play once a, week twice a.

989
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: Weekly people get, hurt people hit il on.

990
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: That, okay but that's.

991
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: Great but you know what he would have to do

992
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: to Supplant Will smith as the starting every every person's

993
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: dream is to be a, WELL i can't say every

994
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: persons it is to play in the big leagues if

995
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: you're a baseball, player, okay but then your next, thing

996
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: AND i Think krautz would stick with me, here is

997
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: to get to play all the, time because that means

998
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: you're doing good and that's how you get. Paid by

999
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: not getting to play and being a backup, player you

1000
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: never get the, opportunities kind of like What Trevor may

1001
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: was saying about the bullpen. Guys they never get paid

1002
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: because they aren't valued.

1003
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: Enough.

1004
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Right the only way you get paid in baseball is

1005
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: you put up numbers and you play a.

1006
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: Lot doesn't they to a league.

1007
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: Minimum over the minor league. Salary he's twenty. Four you

1008
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: think he wants to be in the minor leagues right?

1009
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: Now like you guys, said he.

1010
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: Might he might get traded at some, Point but also

1011
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: The dodgers are obsessed with depth.

1012
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: In the marathon. Game maybe he gets more pet than we.

1013
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 4: Think The dodgers want to have that kind of depth

1014
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: because they're trying to make it to The World. Series god,

1015
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: forbid there's an injury with Will. Smith they would have

1016
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: really really.

1017
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: Just stick around With Austin barnes and there's an injury

1018
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: To Will. Smith you bring Up dalton Rushingcause Dalton rushing

1019
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: is a much better. Player, okay we'll see he's ever

1020
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: played one day a week in his.

1021
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: Life we'll see much better potential. Player.

1022
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 6: Stars stars, cannot will, not and should not ever play

1023
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 6: one or two days a. Week Austin, barnes if he

1024
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 6: plays every single, day is not a. Star Austin barnes

1025
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 6: has had two hundred one point fifty six one oh

1026
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 6: four two forty four in healthy seasons at. Bats you

1027
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 6: cannot do that to a guy who you think right

1028
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 6: now could be a Possible all star catcher in the big.

1029
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 5: Leagues you cannot do.

1030
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: It no matter how good you, are you will not

1031
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 6: be productive as a bench.

1032
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: Player it's perfect Leading dodgers.

1033
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: Territory they'll Pa has say shows Those dodgers.

1034
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: And clinton have fun with this. One watch the. Show

1035
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: we'll flip you over to that YouTube. Channel now.

1036
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 4: AT mgm account, holders you can get in on some any,

1037
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 4: sport no sweat token. Actions that means if you don't

1038
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 4: win your, wager you get a stake back in bonus

1039
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 4: bets any. Sport so if you're watching hoops or hockey

1040
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: because it's playoff, time have, fun but otherwise baseball every

1041
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: night gambling. Problem more Concern call one and undre gambling