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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Volume

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I am Chad Millman of the Action Network,

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Speaker 1: continuing our division by division previews. Let's welcome in my

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Speaker 1: co host, my companion Mike and Padre, and my bff

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Speaker 1: professional better Simon hunter Head. O's amit, Chad.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that we have gotten through the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame game. The Cam Newton Jalen Hurts discourse has

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Speaker 2: been left in July. We are onto August with the

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Speaker 2: dumb football talk has moved to just guys in practice,

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Speaker 2: And I have to know, how are you feeling about

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. I mean, this has just been insanity these

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Speaker 2: last seventy two hours. Where's Chad Milman, the Bears fan

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Speaker 2: head at right now?

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Speaker 1: I am so so it's funny. I forgot. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I mentioned it in one of our Western Division previews,

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Speaker 1: something about the Bears and who they're going to be

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Speaker 1: playing and what they challenge. Are they a challenge on

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Speaker 1: the schedule? And I think it's the Raiders actually, And look,

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Speaker 1: my head is spinning at every second is a temperature

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Speaker 1: check on Caleb Williams our friend Colin Cowhard. It feels

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Speaker 1: like because he's now a Chicago a citizen of the

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Speaker 1: suburbs of Chicago. He is talking about Caleb in every show,

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Speaker 1: and my entire feed of whatever I check on social

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Speaker 1: media is Caleb socks. Look at this throw by Caleb

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Speaker 1: Caleb socks. Look at this catch by Luther Burden, Caleb sucks.

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Speaker 1: Look at this catch by Roma dunees A Like I'm

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Speaker 1: so all over the map. The Bears are disappointed. The

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Speaker 1: Bears are happy. Ben Johnson takes it on himself if

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Speaker 1: the team isn't prepared, Caleb is progressing at the rate

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Speaker 1: they want him to progress. The whole thing is mind boggling,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do about it other

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Speaker 1: than be really glad that I bet the Packers at

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Speaker 1: twenty something to want to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I told you this was gonna happen in two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: I said, this guy's offensive system is really complicated, and

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't pay attention to any Caleb Williams talk until

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Speaker 2: about two weeks before the season, just because I knew

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Speaker 2: it was just gonna be awful like this. It's just

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Speaker 2: the way it is when you bring a new system,

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Speaker 2: when you've gone from literally having the easiest coaching staff

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Speaker 2: that really didn't care. To a perfectionist that wants to

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Speaker 2: run his way, there's gonna be growing pains. And my

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Speaker 2: favorite thing is just Bears media where I saw a

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Speaker 2: clip of a Bears guy saying how Caleb's regressed, and

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Speaker 2: it was him taking a snaff under center, dropping back

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Speaker 2: and it was a free runner in his face and

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Speaker 2: Caleb threw that like over a guy's head or to

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Speaker 2: some guy's feet, which was the only play to make

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Speaker 2: other than take a sack. And this guy's talking about

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Speaker 2: how he's regressed, and it's just like this is this

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Speaker 2: is August. This is my favorite part of it, where

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Speaker 2: it's just like if guys have different latencies like these

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Speaker 2: different media members don't like Asians, so they don't like

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Speaker 2: these players. There's different little things like that people need

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Speaker 2: to be aware of. So yeah, I love this time

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Speaker 2: of year. Every little thing in camp to me is

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Speaker 2: the drama. I love it all because it's all theater, right,

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Speaker 2: that's the most fun part about it, and the fact that

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Speaker 2: it's in my division. I mean, this is the best.

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Speaker 2: This is literally my dream scenario now two division foes.

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Speaker 2: Top players are holding out. It doesn't get much better

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Speaker 2: for me as an Eagles fan.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I had the strangest experience, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to get to the AFC West and I as of

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Speaker 1: this morning, I was breaking down practice video of Josh Simmons,

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Speaker 1: going to up against Chris Jones for the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 1: had the strange brands last night. I'm sitting at dinner

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Speaker 1: Stacey and I were having dinner together last night. He

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, she started asking me about betting.

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Speaker 1: She was like, so, if a team is minus seven,

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Speaker 1: didn't want to be like, dude, I've been doing this

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Speaker 1: Man doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. And

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Speaker 2: Sounds like she's dipping the toes and she wants to

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Speaker 2: get on the action. So I like, it's.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you know what it is? Actually maybe on Sundays

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Speaker 1: so she's thinking, how can she sort of improve our

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 1: At one point on the show, Simon, we got to

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Speaker 1: dig in deep on my conversation with the sports performance

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Speaker 1: to do this for the book. I had the conversation

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Speaker 1: the other day fascinating preview of what we're going to

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Speaker 1: do to come. We're going to go through every team

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Speaker 1: in the AFC in the NFC. As you all know,

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Speaker 1: today we are talking about the AFC West, home of

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Speaker 1: the best franchise in football over the last half decade,

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Speaker 1: in the Kansas City Chiefs. Much as it pains a

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Speaker 1: team that's won a Super Bowl and been to a

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Speaker 1: Patriots dominance in the East. Our generation to go, they've

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Speaker 1: changing with Sean Payton and Jim Harbut now coaching teams

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Speaker 1: in the AFC West. We will discuss. Simon First, one

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Speaker 1: up Kens City Chiefs Division odds minus one, twenty conference

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: That is what cost them the Super Bowl last year?

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Speaker 1: That was a huge issue for them all season long.

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Speaker 1: It has been an issue for them going past the

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Speaker 1: they've solved everything. They still have receiver issues. As much

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Speaker 2: We're very blessed and lucky to live in a time

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Speaker 2: where the Chiefs exist. If you're a sports better, if

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Speaker 2: But as a sports better, it's just been it's the dream.

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Speaker 2: This is like the dream team to bet on because

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Speaker 2: you're investing money here in August and you know it's

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Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game. Mahomes has played seven full seasons, Chad.

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Speaker 2: We all know the stats, five Super Bowls, seven conference

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Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game. He might lose it, right, Like we

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Speaker 2: keep talking about Lamar Josh Allen. They are in the

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Speaker 2: repeating what the Chiefs have done, it just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Like people can go back and watch those Patriots teams.

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Speaker 2: They always hit rainom bumps in the road, right, there's

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Speaker 2: that makes sense, Like this is not a team that

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Speaker 2: Like again, we'll talk about it. People know what I

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Speaker 2: those are positions I've taken at this point. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I do get why the number is this low, because

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Speaker 2: you know, we talked months ago, this is the best

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Speaker 2: stirt turn out the gold and it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: last year Hardball was a perfect example that he brought

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Speaker 2: were a playoff team. You know, pretty damn good. Like

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Speaker 2: it was one of Herbert's best years. You could say

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Speaker 2: Chiefs though, and minus one ten for this division chat,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know about you. This is a number.

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Speaker 2: Right away, I ran to the window and took They

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Speaker 2: that's a number I've been betting as well. Now that

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Speaker 2: it's down to plus eight fifty, you can still do it.

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Speaker 2: But like I said, I I'd rather bet the matchups

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Speaker 2: year sixty five to one. That's to me, ned's better

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Speaker 2: tying your money up for six seven months here. But

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be okay like worthy. To me,

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. You mentioned Mahomes his first full

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Speaker 2: I just broke it down where it's like people are like,

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Speaker 2: why come the fourth quarter, these teams are mentally exhausted.

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Speaker 2: Now they have the third best odds in the AFC

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Speaker 2: It's just the general public. They like the new, They

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers plus three hundred to win the division,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guessaid that show. We weren't doing a rank

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Speaker 2: To me, that's all meaningless. If the goal of football

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Speaker 2: regular season. No, He's pretty good. That's why people get

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Speaker 2: And me and you both agree on that. I've liked

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Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston, Like those are high draft picks that you've

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Speaker 2: we've seen it without a feeling on Carolina, like there's

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Speaker 2: They passed on him. I mean, I don't know if

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00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 2: you've heard about John Campbell with the Eagles. He's been

430
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: a stud for the Eagles. They passed on him again

431
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: for a running back of this spot. So to me,

432
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: I kind of like, what their identity is gonna stick with?

433
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: I want? I want, honestly didn't want to fade this

434
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: team because I'm I just love the other team's division.

435
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: You really want to fade this team?

436
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: I did, but like the more, I like, everything you're

437
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: saying is a shock to me right now? Yeah, I can't.

438
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 2: I can't give other people is under on this nine

439
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: and a half to me, that's price right just because

440
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: I have him at nine and eight this season, my model,

441
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: does you know? That's not enough value to really take it?

442
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: Where horriball to me. I don't think my model understands

443
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: that he can. He can steal you one or two

444
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: this year. That's just that's how good of a coach

445
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: he is to me. So if you do want to

446
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: play the over, I totally getting it. I get why

447
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: people love this team just because Herbert, just like we

448
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: talked about Lamar and Allen, he will have a breakthrough season.

449
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: What is that season though? Is that him beating Houston finally?

450
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: Like it's just like we've been waiting every year, We've

451
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: been waiting right for him. I mean, here they are

452
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: once again plus three hundred wins division. Can he do it?

453
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can because now this division,

454
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: to me, Chad is the best it's ever been. So

455
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: that's the hesitation for me betting any of these, any

456
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: of these numbers with this team, like eleven on one conference,

457
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: there's other team's division i'd rather bet. Like to me,

458
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: there's just no value there. So yeah, the Chargers, I

459
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: love what they've done coming to this season, how they're

460
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 2: setting up for the future. But I'm still of the

461
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: mindset that the last regime was so bad. They've they've

462
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: ruined this team so bad. It so many ways. There's

463
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: still to me, a year or two away from being

464
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: a true contender. So I'm not gonna invest any money

465
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: on them or against them at this point. I'm just

466
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: I'm not losing money on betting their underhere. I just

467
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: it's too it's too it's too risky with Horrible because

468
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: he can just steal those games. So nine and a

469
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: half I think is properly priced.

470
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: Right when you go through the schedules of these teams,

471
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: whether it's the Broncos or the Chargers, and want to

472
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: talk about the Broncos next, you believe enough in the coaches, yeah,

473
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: that you think, Okay, they're going to steal a win

474
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about this with Pete Peril too,

475
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: and the Raiders. They could steal a win or two

476
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: in the division that gets them over the time. And

477
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: because the division is so competitive they will be able

478
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 1: to when they're playing teams outside the division, they're not

479
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: going to be playing teams that are as good, and

480
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: so they're going to benefit from playing such a competitive

481
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: in division schedule, but it also means they might be

482
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: at risk for losing more games than they otherwise would.

483
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean week one, like you're like yours

484
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: on a division they go to Brazil to play the

485
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs week one, which I think is good for them,

486
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: like that is like kind of thing where you could

487
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: steal that game, But then they have two straight division

488
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: games after that, Like that, that's tough. You start three

489
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: division games to start the season, and when you just

490
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: talk on a really tough division and you know you're

491
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: going on the road to Brazil coming back, and then

492
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, now we have to face the Raiders

493
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: in Denver. It's like that's a tough start to the season.

494
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 2: Three straight divisional games. But like you said, if they

495
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: could somehow steal it, go three and know to start

496
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: the season in their division, maybe this is final the

497
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: year for Herbert and all breaks right. But that's also

498
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: terrifying if you're a of them, where it's like, oh

499
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: my god, we might have to go to Brazil, we

500
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: get smoked by the Chiefs. Now we have two straight

501
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: divisional games. That's I mean, that's the recipe for being

502
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: one to two, zero to three, So pretty terrifying if

503
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: you're a Chargers fan.

504
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to have to ask my sports

505
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: performance psychiatrist to do a pop psychiatry examination of Justin

506
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: Herbert and why he chokes in these bigger games, because look,

507
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: it's happened a couple times in the playoffs, right Think

508
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: about that Trevor Lawrence Jags game. Think about that Texans

509
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: game last year. Think about primetime games in which this

510
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: guy has had the chance to make a real statement

511
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: and we were betting on them and it didn't work out. Right,

512
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: And so is he destined to be one of those

513
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who's got great regular season stats and piles up

514
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: the numbers. How is he going to get over the top,

515
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: That's the question. And maybe the answer is give him

516
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: a great fucking defense and a great running game and

517
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: lessen the pressure in which he has to be making

518
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: all the plays, because I do think that's also been

519
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: part of the problem, is like they've had terrible coaching,

520
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: terrible coordination, and they've put everything on his shoulders because

521
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: he's so talented.

522
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a it's a tough situation.

523
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. This is a team simon plus three twenty

524
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: five in the Division, fifteen to one in the Conference,

525
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: thirty to one in the Super Bowl, nine and a

526
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: half wins total projections. You like the Broncos better than

527
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I think if I'm gleaning anything from our conversations,

528
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: if you had to choose the value between the two,

529
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: my sense is it would be with Denver in some capacity.

530
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is another number though that I've been hitting

531
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: it from the day it came out that it's moved

532
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: too much now the division a lot. So if it

533
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: was still plus four hundred plus four fifty like it

534
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: was to me, that would have been when it was

535
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: crazy value like that was just insane. The pros have

536
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: been hitting this one, and I think the public annow

537
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: started coming on because you know, I love Nick Wright,

538
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: but he moves numbers, whether he realized it or not.

539
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: And as soon as I saw him talking up Denver

540
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: and how it's one of his favorite teams, I was like, oh, okay,

541
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: this is a problem, and I see Cowhard doing it, it

542
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: goes Okay, there's a problem. All the guys on Fox

543
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: FOS one are loving this guy. They're getting viewed by

544
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: millions of people. A lot of these people bet they're

545
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: gonna start moving this number. So the Division A lots

546
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: have moved a lot, they're conference eyes have moved a lot,

547
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: and the super boads have come down. You could do

548
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: it if you want to. To me, there's no value

549
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: there and I just I can't rep my head around

550
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: bone Knicks being in that same level as Alan Lamar

551
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: and Mahomes Like, if when you're thinking about betting him

552
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: to win the conference or the super Bowl, can you

553
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: get there? Can you get there with your money and

554
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: knowing that that's gonna be a really tough decision when

555
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: they do play because you will be the dog. So

556
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a little tougher for you to hedge

557
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: in that position when he plays those guys in the playoffs,

558
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: if you are taking a position on him to win

559
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: this super Bowl or the conference. So you know, love

560
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: this team because of the defense and the head coach,

561
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: and then you think about what he's done with bon Knicks,

562
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: and we talked about it when we talk about, you know,

563
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: teams we love coming of the season. That's how you

564
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: know if I love Denver is that if there's anything

565
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: in there left that he can ring out and keep approving,

566
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: he will do that with bon Nicks, Like that's what

567
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: makes Sean Paint such a great coaches. He can keep

568
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: improving on these quarterbacks and find out their strengths and

569
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: making it get better and better. And between the offensive line,

570
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: the wide receivers. I know they've drafted some running backs,

571
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: like it could all line up for this team for

572
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: me in this division, that they could be the one

573
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: that finally dethrones my Homes. But that's what sucks that

574
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: it's moved so much now that there's another team this

575
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: division that now has better odds that are better value

576
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: at this point. So yeah, with Denver and bon Knicks,

577
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: it's it's high hopes, but I think at the end

578
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: of the day, it's just are can you get there?

579
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: To think he could pull off the upsets of all

580
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: upsets and beat those three that three headed monster at

581
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: the end that's waiting for him, Lamar, Josh Allen or Mahomes.

582
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to go through at least two of them.

583
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: We know that for a fact, and I think it

584
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: breaks really wrong. You might have to go through all three.

585
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: So I just can't get there personally. I can't put

586
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: my money into that. But if you, if you were

587
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: out there and you can find it better than three

588
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: seventy five number on this division, aize, I wouldn't hate that.

589
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: I got it right there. I got them at plus

590
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: three hundred, so plus you know, seventy five, that's that's

591
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: a nice value to me. But it's it's to me,

592
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: it's just the bets, the win total. Like, if you

593
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: believe this team over nine and a half, you gotta

594
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: take it like that. The only way they were aggressing

595
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: to that number is just because this division hasn't proved

596
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: so much. So yeah, just looking at their schedule the

597
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: way it's all broken out, I like how it sets

598
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: up for them this upcoming season. And the fact that

599
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: they end Chiefs Chargers those are their last two games

600
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. That's another way I

601
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: like it that to break for this type of team.

602
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just nine and a half when told

603
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: that's the only real bet I'd give out on the

604
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: show for Denver.

605
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: Well, look, you're not wrong with sort of a lot

606
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: of the pundits weighing in that the Broncos are getting

607
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: a lot of heat, like throughout training camp, through the

608
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: training camp circuit, through the NFL, you know, Grapevine, all

609
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: the reporters talk to each other, they all start whispering

610
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: about which team they like, and just to pull back

611
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: the curtain a little bit, that's how these rumblings start.

612
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: Forget about betting. But you know, this person said they

613
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: were Broncos camp and they heard it from a scout,

614
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: and then they tell one of their buddies who's covering

615
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: the NFL, and then they start telling other people. A

616
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: lot of times, these guys haven't even seen the Broncos practice.

617
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: They probably haven't watched their tape. They haven't. Maybe they've

618
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: seen a couple of clips on Twitter, but that starts

619
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: getting shared as sort of candy throughout the media ecosystem,

620
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: and all of sume sudden, the Broncos are one of

621
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: those teams that everybody is talking about as being a

622
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender. I just saw it the other day.

623
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: I saw, like, you know, Mike Florio interview on Rich

624
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: Eyesen come across my feed and Florio was talking about

625
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: are the Broncos one of those teams that can be

626
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender? If it wasn't Florida, I apologize

627
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: it was somebody and like, you see that, and you know,

628
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: that's how these conversations start, and it's why these numbers

629
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: start moving. And look, maybe the best way to help

630
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: a young quarterback like bo Nicks is the same thing

631
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: we just said about. The Chargers run the ball, play

632
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: great defense, and the Broncos. The Chargers had a really

633
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: good defense. The Broncos had the best defense. They had

634
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: the most active defense. They had Patrick certain who was

635
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, first in sacks, first and

636
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: expected points added. Like, they've added Hufanga, the safety from

637
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: the Niners. They added dra Greenlaw the linebacker. They used

638
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: their first pick on a cornerback, the kid from Texas,

639
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: John day Barn. So they're focused on defense and making

640
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: sure that defense doesn't regress at all. So I can

641
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: see why people are getting excited about him. But yeah,

642
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: the numbers have moved.

643
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Zach Allen, another guy on their D line,

644
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: might be the next sir down. Like, this guy is

645
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 2: incredibly talented and he's just a workhorse. So you know,

646
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: This is like you're asking for the Chiefs offensive line.

647
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: The Chiefs still have the best center all of football.

648
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: They built around that. They're going to be all right.

649
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: The Chiefs always forgot the offensive line Denver. They didn't

650
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: really have that grace where they they had a great

651
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: offensive line last year for rejecting them. Have another great

652
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: offensive line this year, and that to me is gonna

653
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: be the key to them. Where you know, bo Nick's

654
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: like they talk about him, take on that Josh Allen step.

655
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: That's what their hope is, right. They're hoping he becomes

656
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: Josh Allen type, a guy who can move throwing the

657
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: run like that, strong and run through hits. That's a

658
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: lot of weight to put on this kid's shoulder. So yeah,

659
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: that that offensive line needs a hold up from last

660
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: year to what they are this year. And if bon

661
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: Neicks takes that next step, it's all there. I get

662
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: why they're being hyped up right now because I saw

663
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: weeks like months ago. You know, when I looked at

664
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: this team, it was like, okay, Ken, they keep building

665
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: on what they build all flash and it all comes

666
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: down to the quarterback position and the unknown with bone Knicks,

667
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 2: And like I said, it's I just can't believe we

668
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: werely gonna be sitting here a year from now being like, yeah,

669
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: he did it. Bon Knicks went to the FC Championship game,

670
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: like he beat lamar Ma Homes or Josh allenl Ray

671
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: there like it's just it happens. That's why I love

672
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: football so much. These these quarterbacks, you see it coming,

673
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: but it's hard to believe it beforehand. And we've seen

674
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: the flash of bone next year. They they overachieved so

675
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: much last year. It's how much are they gonna regressor?

676
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: How much are they going to improve? That's the hardestport

677
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 2: trying to measure this team right now because there are

678
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: a lot of red flash about them are regressing, but

679
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: there's so much good and all starts with their head coach,

680
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: and it's like Sean Payton Hall of Fame or offensive genius.

681
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: He'll make it work somehow. So that's why I have

682
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: faith in this team. I know it's gonna be tough

683
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: for people out there, but nine and a half to me,

684
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: that's good value on the team. I have at ten

685
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: and a half wins, So you know that's that's a

686
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: really nice bet for me right now.

687
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: Harball and Peyton like they're doing the same thing, right. Yeah,

688
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: they've got great defenses. They're trying to figure out ways

689
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: to make the game a little bit easier for their quarterback.

690
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: They're going to go about it in different ways, right,

691
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: Payton's going to be more creative. He's going to think

692
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: about more of the short passing game. He's going to

693
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: try to take advantage of what Bonix is really good at.

694
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is just going to try to run the ball

695
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: and not put it all on Herbert's shoulders. Let's not

696
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: discount the other coach in this division. There are three

697
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning coaches in this division. Jim Harbaugh is

698
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: the only one who is not a super per Bowl

699
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: winning coach. Pete Carroll is the new coach of the

700
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. Fifteen to one to win the division,

701
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: fifty to one to win the conference, one hundred to

702
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: one to win the Super Bowl. Six and a half

703
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: is the win total. I'm curious. I will tell you

704
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: right now when I made my list of favorite division bets.

705
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you where the Raiders over

706
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: win total was, but it's on the list. Let me

707
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: give you before I ask your opinion. Let me give

708
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: you a stat. I looked this up and I was stunned.

709
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: In his career with the Patriots, the Seahawks, and the

710
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: New York Jets, how many times, Simon has Pete Carroll

711
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: had fewer than seven wins? And remember, when you take

712
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: on a new team, whether it's the Jets, the Patriots

713
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: or the Seahawks, you're generally taking over a shitty team.

714
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: You're in a bad situation. So three times he's taken

715
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: over a new team, how many times in his career

716
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: any season has he won fewer than seven games?

717
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: I mean that Jets and Patriot as a little before

718
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: my time. I know, obviously he coached there, and I

719
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: know that the Beast Quake was a seven and nine seasons,

720
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: so he gets it feels get someone on a lot.

721
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know, probably less than three times once

722
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: once there.

723
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: You go his first season as a head coach with

724
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: the New York Jets nineteen ninety four, and by the way,

725
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: before your time, of course, not before my time. When

726
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: I was a young reporter for Sports Illustrated, I had

727
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: to go interview Pete Carroll at Foxborough when he was

728
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: coaching the Patriots. And you know, he's so hippy dippy

729
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing, even though he's super intense and competitive. Uh,

730
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: We're sitting there and I'm sitting with him, and you know,

731
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: there's a very famous author named Dan Millman who has

732
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: written these books that are sort of spiritual in nature

733
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: and about improvement and finding your zen. He just wanted

734
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: to talk to me about Dan Milman. He's like, you

735
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: know Dan Milman. I'm like, I don't know him. He goes,

736
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you about Dan Milman. And that's when

737
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: we end up talking about the entire time I interviewed him.

738
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: Simon one season with less than seven wins in nineteen

739
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: ninety four, thirty one years ago, you were four years old.

740
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: I didn't exist.

741
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't exist thirty nine years ago. Thirty

742
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: one years ago, oh oh thirty one.

743
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

744
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: Hey, By the way, I got a Frindy story today.

745
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell the whole story because I

746
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: want to save it for when we talk about the

747
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: NFC East. Because I hung out with some guys here

748
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: in West Herford the other night who are massive Eagles fans,

749
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: and they were they listened to the show, and Uh,

750
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: we're standing in the kitchen hanging out for a minute,

751
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: and one of the one of the guys says to me, Yeah,

752
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I love I love the way you guys broke down

753
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: the the Eagles and the Chiefs Super Bowl. That younger

754
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: guy on your show, I'm like, younger guy. That's that's

755
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: how we're framing this whole thing, is the younger guy.

756
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: He's just staying in fact, Chad, when I look at

757
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: this Raiders team, you looked like I was a crazy person.

758
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: I said, I they were my seventh team in the playoffs,

759
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: And I got where you're coming from, because it's hard

760
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: to hear Raiders playoffs in any sense.

761
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: Totally with you, by the way.

762
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: Right right right now, Like now that you've like looked

763
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: into a little bit more, you see where I'm coming from.

764
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: Where it's like, can they thread that needle? And that's

765
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: gonna be the hardest part is, like we just talk

766
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: about Chargers in Denver are so talented, all four of

767
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: these teams around making a playoffs, someone's gotta be the

768
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: odd man out. And that's why I'm going That's why

769
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I went with the Chargers, And it really is just

770
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: about value and that's at the end of the day,

771
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: that's where we're trying to bet here, and we've talked

772
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: about all the time there's always that team that goes

773
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: from worse to first or to a playoff team, and

774
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: last year we had it with Washington, and you could

775
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: say we had it with Denver hell In this division,

776
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: like you know, these teams are just a very low

777
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: view by the public and not on people's radar. I

778
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: feel like the Raiders is gonna start popping on people's

779
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: radar here in the next couple of weeks. I feel

780
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to get ahead of it weeks

781
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: ago and I gave them out as a playoff team

782
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: because they're a team that people kind of forget that

783
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: it's just a whole different regime there and that, yes,

784
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 2: their secondary, you could argue, is the worst in football.

785
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: I cannot fight you on that because I've I've dove

786
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: into it too, and they're they're they're They're Raiders. Defen

787
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: fense could have major issues, but when you break down

788
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: this offense with Genty, with the fact that you know

789
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: they're not the offense line is not terrible. That obviously

790
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: needs a little bit of improvement, but you know, between

791
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: Gentee and Bowers and Chip Kelly, I love that. I

792
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: love that they have an offensive guy that's gonna knows

793
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: how to get the best players of the ball. So,

794
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: Gina Smith, you know, I told you I was saving

795
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: this for the season long. He's a different, totally different

796
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: player in dome games. He's way above five hundred is

797
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: against the spread. It's like about you know, seven hit

798
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: rate and against the spread in indoor dome games. So

799
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: it's like type of scenario where he's always outperformed with

800
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: book makers are per projection of him indoor games in

801
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: the general public. So I already love that coming in

802
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, he spent his whole career in

803
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: outdoor stadiums Now he's inside in a dome game. And

804
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: you know, sure he could get some tough weather games.

805
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: I know the end of the season, you know they

806
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: are at Philly and they're at Houston. I think Houston's

807
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: in door actually, But there's just a bunch of things

808
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: align up for them that they're always gonna be in

809
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: these preferable weather conditions for this type of offense. They're

810
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: gonna running or so fifteen to one division odds, jad

811
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: I bet it. This opened at seventeen to one it's

812
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: been bet down at fifteen to one. It's it's too

813
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: too big to me, this is a team that could

814
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: shock the world just because of all the veteran presence

815
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: they have. And you just talk about Pete Carroll like that,

816
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: to me is such a game changer that this guy

817
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: the players of the play form. He wills these guys

818
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: get the best out of them, and I just can't

819
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: see them slipping below that. So yeah, another favorite win

820
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: total for me, division wise, six and a half. I

821
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: love even morn Now you hit me at that stat

822
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: about Pete Carroll like that just lines up for my

823
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: projection of this team being a whole new identity and

824
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: it all really starts with Gino. But obviously I don't

825
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: think people get this kid genty. He could be an

826
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: absolute game wrecker, Like if he is what we are

827
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: projecting him to be, which is a Saquan light like

828
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: that type of built right, He's all thighs like people

829
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: realize Saikwan Barkley is, like he plays at two forty

830
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: two forty of just muscle, like I'm severely overweight. If

831
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: you've met me, I'm probably forty pounds. Heavery that I

832
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: could imagine being two forty of muscle, you know, running

833
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: around like he is. And that's what genty is. Genty

834
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: is a little guy who's thick. He's like two thirty

835
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 2: two twenty five playing weight and it's all in his thighs.

836
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: I just love the way he's built the NFL. And

837
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: this is the exact type of Snaire we want, right,

838
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: It's the execul Elliott when he first came in. You

839
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: want those first four years with these high rookie draft

840
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: picks of just excellence. Right. He's still young enough to

841
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: run on that weight. So yeah, long winded answer, Chad.

842
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: I think you can tell it hyped up on him

843
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: about this Raiders team, but it just feels like it's

844
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: all lined up for them to be the sleeper of

845
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: the AFC this season. And uh, six and a half

846
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: just disrespectful line to this team. But I think again,

847
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: because it's the third division, the general public is just

848
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: not buying it on them. But you you knocked out

849
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: of the park. I got him an eight and a

850
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: half wins, So this is my biggest rescreptancy so far.

851
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: We've done them the show two wins lower than they

852
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: should be. I love this number for this range team.

853
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: It's it's the division, but it's also public perception. This

854
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: is a public perception game, right And I see looking

855
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Speaker 1: at the schedule, three better than fifty to fifty games, Titans, Giants,

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Speaker 1: Browns all at home. I see two fifty to fifty games,

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Speaker 1: both at home, Jags and Bears. I think Week five

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Speaker 1: at the Colts is a wild card at this point,

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00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: we will see, but it could be by the time

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Speaker 1: they're playing the Colts, they are a significantly better team

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00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: than the Colts are. That could be six wins right there.

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00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: They are three point dogs in Week one at New England.

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00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: That'll be a fascinating game. Right, So seven games right

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00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: there where you can feel very good to fifty to

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Speaker 1: fifty better than even maybe chance they could win. And

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Speaker 1: then just becomes a question can Pete Carroll Congino Smith?

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Speaker 1: Can they be savvy enough to pull off an upset

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Speaker 1: as they often are able to do in the division

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Speaker 1: at home against the Broncos, against the Chargers, against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: So if we were to recap here, my favorite division

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Speaker 1: bet from this division Raiders over six and a half.

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Speaker 1: Full stop, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Raids over six and a half.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it, which do you like, what's yours?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: Is it Raiders over six and a half? Is it Raiders?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with my biggest investment, my personal money

878
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: is no doubt the Chiefs divisional odds, like I've just

879
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: been hitting that one pretty heavy, but when total wise, yeah,

880
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: it's not close. Raiders for this division is my biggest one.

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00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Second is Denver obviously really love that number as well.

882
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: And then the Chiefs. I just every year I'm betting it.

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00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: The only fear is they're going to have a ten

884
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: and seven year, Like I don't know if it's gonna

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00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: be this year or they'll you know, eleven and six. Eventually,

886
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: their their division is going to catch them in these

887
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: games because last year was just we talked about it,

888
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: which is so fluky. In the one score games, you know,

889
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: everything went right, even like going back to that Bengals game,

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00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: you know Joe Burrow had the ball with the lead

891
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: with about three minutes to go on a third and

892
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: seven and didn't read a hot read and took a sack.

893
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: Where it's like that game was lined up perfectly in

894
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: the win and I think it was fourth and twenty

895
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: they get a pass interference to get them in a

896
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: field goal range for the Chiefs to win. Like if

897
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: you go back to the last year, they had so

898
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: many these weird freaking games they stole, so they're just

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00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: I did bet their win total. But of those three,

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00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: it's the third one. It's I like Raiders first Denver,

901
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: then the Chiefs, and then once again nothing for me

902
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: on the Chargers team. I assume the same for you.

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00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: Chad Yep, zero couldn't do it. My list was Raiders

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00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: over six and a half Chiefs Division but parleying it,

905
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: and then Broncos Division. Even though it's much lower than

906
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: it's been, it's still better to me than what you're

907
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: getting with the Chargers. But Raiders six and a half

908
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: was my favorite.

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00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: All right, just sprinkle a little in fifteen to one

910
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Raiders just for the show. They're a little.

911
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Donny Scosh and Raiders.

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00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: It could be fun. End this season.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I'm in. I'm all in. Simon, listen,

914
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Speaker 1: the favorites will return. Let me recap, let me recap.

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00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: We just did it though. Raiders over six and a

916
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: half Chiefs divisional odds for Simon, Broncos divisional odds for

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00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: both of us. Although it's less value Raiders fifteen to

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Speaker 1: one to win the conference. All right, The Favorites will

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Speaker 1: YouTube page. When we talk n f C West, that's

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Speaker 1: a burn burner of a of a division. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot of controversy there. I know me and Simon

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Speaker 1: are going to be on different sides of two of

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