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Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Radio. All right, Welcome to The Herd.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Chris Bruisard along with my man

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Speaker 1: Jason McIntire also known as Jay mckin. We are in

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Speaker 1: for Kylin Cowhard. Obviously he is off. We hope he

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Speaker 1: has a wonderful weekend, as do we hope for you.

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Speaker 1: But for now we're gonna bring you into that weekend

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Speaker 1: Let me welcome in my man Jason McIntire, j mack

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Speaker 1: what up, brother, I'm great, Chris, I am great, very

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Speaker 1: excited to be hosting with you. It's been a few

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Speaker 1: years since we did this. I think we did it

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Speaker 1: from the FS one Studios pre COVID and it was

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Speaker 1: an NBA is show in July this one will be

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Speaker 1: a little NBA, a little NFL, and of course, as usual, chrispers,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Hard and I will agree on everything because we

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Speaker 1: are in lockstep in life and in sports as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that sounds to me. I gotta

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Speaker 1: let me think about that before I let you lock

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Speaker 1: me into being in lockstep with you on everything. But

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Speaker 1: you're my man. We're gonna have a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We got e from Salim joining us in about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: He is always great, No, not just NFL. Don't be

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Speaker 1: fooled that he was, you know, a former NFL player.

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Speaker 1: He also knows this hoop, so we'll talk about him

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Speaker 1: everything with him. But j Mac, let us start off

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Speaker 1: with the NBA. As you mentioned, and we saw yesterday

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton one of the top centers in the league.

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Speaker 1: long and hard about putting my man DeAndre etan in

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Speaker 1: that in to the box score. But Indiana made him

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Speaker 1: a max offer. Sheet four years, one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: three million, And after all of the back and forth,

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Speaker 1: all of the cold shouldering and everything from his team

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Speaker 1: went ahead and match the offer. So DeAndre Aiden will

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Speaker 1: basically good for the Sons. But you know what, j mack,

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Speaker 1: the real story about this, It essentially takes Phoenix out

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Speaker 1: of the Kevin Durant sweepstakes because they were one of

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Speaker 1: the teams on his wish list. The Sons aren't willing

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Speaker 1: And so now Miami second team on his wish list,

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Speaker 1: I've said all along that I feel like he should

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think the Warriors would mortgage

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Speaker 1: I advocated that move. Then he goes to Brooklyn. Now

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Speaker 1: he wants out again, like what is he searching for?

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Speaker 1: And Chris, I just say there there's a better chance

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean anything. They would happen, but I think

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Speaker 1: there's so much. Here's what that means. If he returns

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Speaker 1: K D kind of said, I'm out of here. Of

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Speaker 1: course he's yes, but guess what it's cool to be

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green and Kay It ain't ugly. Now Draymond's on

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Speaker 1: his podcast dropping on his revisionist history. Hey, we we

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Speaker 1: out there the media that appreciate him when it was

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they didn't like because they recognize his

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Speaker 1: It was the media naming him the Finals MVP when

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Speaker 1: In the twenty seventeen playoffs, Kevin Durant averaged are you

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Speaker 1: ready for this? Fifty five percent shooting forty four percent

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Speaker 1: And that's what people don't understand when they give all

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Speaker 1: And he played great all year and he was great

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Speaker 1: in the finals. But on the court, when you have

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Speaker 1: it's easier for you to do your thing. So I

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Speaker 1: Kde was great. I'm not taking anything from him, but

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Speaker 1: let's not act like he had to carry a team

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Speaker 1: by himself like he was asked to do. In Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie was great in game one, didn't do much in

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Speaker 1: the last three. He was okay. Their offense was give

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Speaker 1: it to Kevin, give it to kay Ree and let's

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Speaker 1: watch him go one on one. Maybe we'll set a

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Speaker 1: pick other than that, do you think, guys, Whereas in

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Speaker 1: more sophisticated, better scheming. So that is why I look Kevin.

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Speaker 1: If you want to bring up the injuries, that's fair. Chris,

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Speaker 1: come out injuries. He played. Kevin Durant is not as

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Speaker 1: good as he was Kevin Durant twenty seven. He's absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: He's played eighty I'm sorry, ninety. He's playing ninety games

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Speaker 1: in three years. He is not the same player. And

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Speaker 1: Chris took it to your point, Hold on to your point.

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Speaker 1: it if they want, if they want to keep him

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Speaker 1: in the pocket and keep him out of harm's way,

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Speaker 1: stop running read options. But that's taking away as you see.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's it's the chicken in the egg

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Speaker 1: argument are they doing. The feeling is that they're basing

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Speaker 1: the whole offense around his strengths and exactly, but in

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Speaker 1: order to evolve as a quarterback, right, you bring a

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Speaker 1: young player in, he's used to doing this, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: but as the ever lucien of a player's talent, right,

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Speaker 1: if you want to continue to evolve that player's talent,

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Speaker 1: you have to push that player, right. You have to

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Speaker 1: push that player and have them work on the scenes

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Speaker 1: that others may seem as deficiencies. If they're not willing

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Speaker 1: to do that with their offense and get comfortable with

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Speaker 1: him running in a certain type of way, he'll never

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Speaker 1: evolve into what you need him to be or what

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Speaker 1: you want him to be. What he can be so iphim.

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Speaker 1: If we're at the negotiating table and you're the Ravens

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Speaker 1: and you say that to me, and I'm Lamar, I

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Speaker 1: come back and say, hey, guys, that's all good and

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Speaker 1: well I got it. Sure I'll improve as a passer.

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Speaker 1: How about you get me a receiver? Because you look

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Speaker 1: around the league from and all the good quarterbacks. What

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Speaker 1: did their front officers do when they were on the

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Speaker 1: rookie deal? They went and got a superstar receiver. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs goes to Buffalo, Josh Allen becomes a star.

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham goes to play with Baker Mayfield. That didn't

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Speaker 1: quite work out, but Odell put up some good numbers.

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Speaker 1: They made the playoffs. And you look around the league

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Speaker 1: and the young, the young quarterbacks get start receivers. You

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Speaker 1: look at the Baltimore depth chart right now, Rashod Bateman,

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Speaker 1: second year receiver, is their number one option. Now, if

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Speaker 1: I'm Lamar Jackson, I'm like, guys, how can you not

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Speaker 1: get me a gut Kyler Murray gets DeAndre Hopkins? What

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Speaker 1: do I got? You're absolutely right, and if you want

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Speaker 1: them to stay in, you're gonna get to this. You

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Speaker 1: gotta get them. You gotta throw them the ball. You

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Speaker 1: gotta have somebody to throw the ball too, correct, like

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Speaker 1: you need multiple weapons to throw the ball to. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to dig into this deeply yet, because we will.

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Speaker 1: But t Y Hilton turned down more money to stay

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, all right, juj spis juice to turn down

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Speaker 1: more money to stay in Pittsburgh. I'm just saying, Kenny Gollad,

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Speaker 1: they chose Daniel Jones and the Giants they overpaid, So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all right, little revisionist history there, Jay Mack.

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Speaker 1: But you're not. But you're not giving us like top tier,

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Speaker 1: well like young talent. That's what the mid tier is

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Speaker 1: rejecting them. But you can all go a but at

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Speaker 1: that position, correct, Hollywood Brown left him, he was homegrown,

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Speaker 1: he left Hollywood receiver. Question from because I think you

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Speaker 1: post you present a good question. Is it because Lamar

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Speaker 1: can really only play this way that the Ravens do this,

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Speaker 1: or is it that they are stiming him by playing

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Speaker 1: that type of offense? Whatever the case, you notice a

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Speaker 1: receiver that's looking to put up numbers, looking to get

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Speaker 1: the bag, is he gonna want to go to that

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Speaker 1: type of offense. So it's like you said earlier. They

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Speaker 1: after they probably have to tweak things, all right, from

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Speaker 1: great stuff, We only got to one topic. But you

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Speaker 1: drop knowledge and uh, broad energy like you always do.

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Speaker 1: That's our man from Saline. Have a great weekend, man,

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Speaker 1: you two brothers, they say later minute, yea, all right,

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Speaker 1: her Line news is next her turn on the news.

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Speaker 1: This is the herd Line News, Chris Jason. Great to

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Speaker 1: be with you guys, great little debates so far. Let's

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Speaker 1: see if we can keep the fun rolling here. We're

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Speaker 1: actually gonna start off with the NBA. It's been quite

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Speaker 1: an offseason so far. You guys have already discussed the

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Speaker 1: potential Kevin Durant movement. Another star everyone has their eyes

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Speaker 1: on is Donovan Mitchell and to the New York Knicks

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Speaker 1: Tony Jones. If the athletic is saying, Utah was willing

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Speaker 1: to let the Knicks take Mitchell in a trade for

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Speaker 1: six first round draft picks plus Quentin Grimes, Emmanuel Quickly,

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Speaker 1: Obie Toppin and Miles McBride, but the Knicks declined that offer. Chris,

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Speaker 1: is he asking price too high for this twenty five

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Speaker 1: year old three time All star? Yeah? It is. And look,

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Speaker 1: so Danny angels credit. They aren't asking for great players.

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Speaker 1: All those guys are young. The fact that they don't

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Speaker 1: want RJ. Barrett is on one hand stunning, but we

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Speaker 1: understand it. They're not trying to be good next year.

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Speaker 1: They are trying to be horrible and try to get

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Speaker 1: Vic when Bayanna, I hope that I said it right now,

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Speaker 1: get seven from yeah, from France. I might have chopped

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Speaker 1: his name up, but big Vic, we'll call it that way.

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Speaker 1: That's who they are going after. And obviously the draft

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Speaker 1: picks or they have some flexibility in the future. So look,

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Speaker 1: no one else can offer that mini picks, all right,

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Speaker 1: So the Knicks do have a little bit of leverage.

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Speaker 1: So they just need to hold it out and they

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Speaker 1: will get Donovan Mitchell. Give up those players and maybe four,

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Speaker 1: maybe five first round picks they have eleven over the

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Speaker 1: next seven years. That'll still leave them well equipped in

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Speaker 1: terms of drafts. So I think it gets done. But

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Speaker 1: I the Knicks are right to say, hold up six picks.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. Danny Ainge has no leverages. Chris said, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell wants out. They want to tank. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think five Picks and no spare parts. Sorry disrespect to

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Speaker 1: Quentin Grimes. I don't see what the fascination is there.

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Speaker 1: But now from a Knicks standpoint, hold up Jalen Brunson

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Speaker 1: and Donovan Mitchell is basically like doing what Portland had

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Speaker 1: with CJ. McCollum and Damian Lillard. Now not quite, it's

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Speaker 1: like a light version. But they went to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: six years in a row, Chris as as the starting backcourt,

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Speaker 1: and I believe they made a run to the conference finals.

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Speaker 1: So if Knicks fans should get excited about that, Plus

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Speaker 1: you still have Randall and Barrett. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: top five team in the East Folk Show. I love

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Speaker 1: it for the Knicks, all right. For so it's a

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Speaker 1: good team. That's a good team. It's you're right, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited if I'm the Knicks and I can get Donovan

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Speaker 1: Mitchell and keep Barrett in the middle to protect the room.

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Speaker 1: That's The Knicks have one playoff series win this century.

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Speaker 1: That's it. One. That's that's a fact. One playoff series victory.

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Speaker 1: That's it. They're starving. They're starving in the guard. All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on. Well, well, let's transition to a little golf.

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Speaker 1: It's the comeback Tour. Everyone's following Tiger Woods's return to

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Speaker 1: golf after his near fatal car wreck back in February

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. Unfortunately, this time at the Open Championship,

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Speaker 1: the comeback is short lived, as Woods will miss the cut,

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Speaker 1: and quite frankly, guys, he's going to miss it by

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Speaker 1: a mile, finishing nine over par with only about seven

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Speaker 1: players right now in the entire field with a worst score.

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Speaker 1: Yeah tough, Jason. Do you enjoy watching this version of

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Speaker 1: Tiger or just to be able to see him play still?

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Speaker 1: Or would you prefer him sort of hang it up

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Speaker 1: and just be an ambassador of the game. I actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say this too harshly, but I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed watching him fail because I bet against him to

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Speaker 1: make the cut because I saw everybody and their mom

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Speaker 1: was laying the lumber on Tiger Woods minus one fifty

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Speaker 1: to make the cut. Guys, he's a year removed from

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Speaker 1: like a near fatal car accident. Could we settle down

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Speaker 1: and betting on Tiger Woods? Don't bet with your heart,

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Speaker 1: bet with your head. You got a fade Tiger going forward. Sorry, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, Jef, Can we take the money out of

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Speaker 1: this guy's got no? I know, my good cold blooded

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Speaker 1: all right, Look, none of us like seeing Tiger play

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Speaker 1: like this, but we do like seeing Tiger playing, all right,

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Speaker 1: And that's the that's the quanity for golf, right. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody in golf even look guys that he's

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Speaker 1: beaten over the years, I'm not sure they even liked

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Speaker 1: seeing this version of Tiger woods all right. Fans that

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Speaker 1: have rooted against him, same thing. And no one wants

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Speaker 1: to see Tiger like this. But when Tiger's in the tournament,

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Speaker 1: at least when it starts, there is more excitement, there

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Speaker 1: is more buzz, there is more coverage, and that's the

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Speaker 1: problem that golf is facing right now. But look, he's

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Speaker 1: forty six years old. Even if he hadn't had the

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Speaker 1: horrific car accident, he's just much older. Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't playing great. He had the one win that

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Speaker 1: we all celebrated a few years ago, but other than that,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't even playing great before the accident. So we

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Speaker 1: want to hold on to Ken's Tiger win another major,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love it to happen, but unfortunately I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's in the cards. Well that's the news, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the herdline news all right, at

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Speaker 1: least one Lakers legend says he'd be on board Jay

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Speaker 1: Matt with the Lebron for Katie trade. My goodness, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into that. Next is Chris Bruce Art and Jason

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Speaker 1: McIntire I for Colin and this is the Herd. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and

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Speaker 1: neon eastern nine am Pacific. Hey, it's me Rob Parker.

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Herd. I'm Chris Brussard along with

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Speaker 1: my man Jason McIntyre. We are in for Colin and

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Speaker 1: we're alive from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. J mc

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Speaker 1: let's go back to the NBA and interesting column in

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Speaker 1: Bleacher Report a few days ago they talked about a

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant for Lebron James trade. Now we know Phoenix, Miami,

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Speaker 1: even Golden State, all these trades are very complicated. Kad

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Speaker 1: for Lebron would be simple, straight up. Salaries are very

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Speaker 1: close and you could do it easily. And I talked

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Speaker 1: to someone close to Lebron about it. Lebron would want

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Speaker 1: no part of that whatsoever. He's happy in LA. He

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Speaker 1: wants to stay in LA. He's not just desperately chasing rings,

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Speaker 1: and so he doesn't want any part of it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Lakers would do went. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they'd send Lebron somewhere where he wouldn't want to go.

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Speaker 1: H just out of respect. But who knows. Robert Dory

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Speaker 1: a lake or Grade by virtue of hitting so many

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Speaker 1: big shots. Uh, he was on his podcast The Big Shot,

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Speaker 1: and he had different ideas here he is Robert Dory.

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Speaker 1: I think there's only probably one dude in the league

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Speaker 1: right now. Two dudes, I say, two dudes that aren't

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Speaker 1: on the trading block wouldn't be on the trademer. That's

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Speaker 1: Luca and stiff. Everybody else can be traded. I don't

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Speaker 1: care who you are. Do you think the Lakers would

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Speaker 1: move on from Lebron? Hell? Yeah, really yeah, because you

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Speaker 1: don't think about it. I think it's kind of rooted now,

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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. But if someone said, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you. Let's say I give you kd. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you rob Polican sources, Okay, I give you Katie

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Speaker 1: for Lebron, you have to do that trade because Katie

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Speaker 1: got about ten years left. Lebron got about three. Okay. Um,

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Speaker 1: First of all, and I love Big Shot. A couple

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Speaker 1: of little factual errors. I'm sure they were factual errors,

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Speaker 1: mental typos, if you will. The fact that he didn't

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Speaker 1: include Yannis in the untradeable group. Uh, that's a mistake.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he would include Yannis. He just overlooked Yannest

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Speaker 1: And then to Saint Kevin Duran's got ten years left, Lucy.

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Speaker 1: Thing is Tom Brady all right? He's thirty it'll be

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Speaker 1: thirty four in September. So that may take a little

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Speaker 1: bit of steam incredibility away from what Big Shots said.

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Speaker 1: But your thoughts on that, J Mack, Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: this is an absolute stunner. I did not read this

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Speaker 1: column or hear the podcast. It's not a report. This

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Speaker 1: is the first It's not a report, and I will

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Speaker 1: say is not a report. Jay Mack is just an opinion.

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Speaker 1: Regarding Robert Ory. He came on my podcast Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: about three weeks before Darvinham was hired and said, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, Darvinham's the guy for the Lakers. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, sure everybody else was saying all these

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Speaker 1: other names. He nailed it. Now. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he has inside info. I know he's worked at the

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Speaker 1: network out here that does the Lakers. He does some

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Speaker 1: studio stuff. Big Shot Bob is connected. That being said, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I was just digging into this during the commercial break.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think the

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Speaker 1: Lakers would have to consider it now. Lebron would hate

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Speaker 1: them forever, and you never want to be the team

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Speaker 1: that trades away Lebron James the greatest player in NBA

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Speaker 1: basketball history. That being said, he's thirty eight in December,

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Speaker 1: k D thirty four, Katie's younger, and more importantly, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant is locked in for four more years. Lebron we

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Speaker 1: know is gonna go wherever he wants to in two

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Speaker 1: years to play with his son Ala Ken Griffe Jr.

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Speaker 1: So if you want security and you're the Lakers, and

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, we got Kad for four years, Kad

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis, Hell yeah, I mean listen, I love Lebron,

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Speaker 1: I love Kevin Durant. I can't believe I'm saying this, Chris.

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Speaker 1: I think you've got to strongly consider it if you

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Speaker 1: are the Los Angeles Lakers. I'm just stopping short of

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Speaker 1: saying you got to do the deal because it's Lebron

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Speaker 1: Freger James. It's Lebron James. You don't just wait Lebron

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Speaker 1: James because you're not giving him away. That's the thing

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Speaker 1: getting Kevin freaking Durant. Now, obviously there's one more potential

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Speaker 1: stumbling block, Russell Westbrook. I mean, it would only be

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Speaker 1: for a year, but would Kade sign off on it?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna be honest with you. I Westbrook obviously

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Speaker 1: has his issues, but if there's a player that knows

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Speaker 1: how to play off of him, it is it is

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. And that was Jay Mack. They didn't win

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Speaker 1: a championship. But that was a very, very very good

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Speaker 1: team when they were together. I know neither of them

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Speaker 1: were as young as they used to be, of course,

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Speaker 1: But the question is would Katie signed off on that

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Speaker 1: even for a year. But if you're the Lakers and

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Speaker 1: you really want to do this deal, and again I

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Speaker 1: don't think it happens. I think the Lakers, I just

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Speaker 1: don't think they do that Lebron. I also think even

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Speaker 1: though they don't look like they're in position to win

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Speaker 1: next year, um, they want to have him break Kareem's

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Speaker 1: record in a Lakers jersey. But to Robert Ory's point,

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Speaker 1: Lebron does not have a no trade clause, and so

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Speaker 1: that's where it becomes round. Is that something they think about.

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Speaker 1: Let me say this, as much as Lebron doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to go, and I get it, I understand it, he

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Speaker 1: would have a better chance of winning another championship in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: J Man, Brooklyn would be nice. The roster is built

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Speaker 1: around the type of roster that Lebron James needs. You

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Speaker 1: got shooters Seth Curry, Joe Harris, Kyrie, Irving Simmons. Ben

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Speaker 1: Simmons can can go down to the dunker spot. That's

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Speaker 1: what it all I need from him. I don't see

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Speaker 1: him to be Kyrie Kyrie, let me just be Kyrie

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Speaker 1: obviously is a wild card no matter who he's playing with.

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Speaker 1: But I do think Lebron is built to get the

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Speaker 1: best out of Kyrie. We've seen it the only time

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Speaker 1: Kyrie's really won. It's not guaranteed, because you never know

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Speaker 1: with Kyrie, but the only time Kyrie has wanted a

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Speaker 1: big level was with Lebron. And here's the other thing,

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Speaker 1: Jay Mack, Kyrie is smart enough to know. Please, no,

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Speaker 1: he's smart enough to know, and I've been told this

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Speaker 1: by somebody's talk to him, that he has got to

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Speaker 1: be on his best behavior next week and he wants

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Speaker 1: if he wants to resurrect his image and get the bag,

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Speaker 1: at least have a shot at getting the back and

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Speaker 1: it's not guaranteed, least have a shot at getting the

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Speaker 1: bag next summer. That he has to not only play well,

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Speaker 1: which we know he will when he plays, but he

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Speaker 1: has to show up. He has to not take hiatuses,

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Speaker 1: he has to be on time, he has to have

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Speaker 1: a good attitude, he has to be a good teammate.

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Speaker 1: I think he can do that with Lebron and Chris.

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Speaker 1: You seemingly have forgotten that. In twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was, Tyler was coaching the Calves and he

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Speaker 1: was telling Kyrie what to do, and Kyrie's like, it's

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Speaker 1: Lebron's team, and he throws the ball at him and

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Speaker 1: walks out of project. But he's had a change of heart. Oh,

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Speaker 1: really has he had? He had a change of heart.

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Speaker 1: He only's been is a knucklehead in Boston, and he

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Speaker 1: was a knucklehead in Brooklyn, and he treated Steve Nash

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Speaker 1: like garbage and now he wants and he could have

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Speaker 1: grown up. A tiger doesn't change his stripes. This is

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Speaker 1: who he is. Kyrie Irving is a crazy person who

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to work well with anybody. He's the kid

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Speaker 1: who in third grade gets that does not play well

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Speaker 1: with others on his report card. That's who Kyrie Irving is.

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Speaker 1: If he didn't play well with others, he wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: a championship, all right, Number one, Number two, He's clearly

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Speaker 1: had a change of heart, because why he's even considering

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Speaker 1: playing with Lebron again and again? I understand he's a

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Speaker 1: he's still a card even with Lebron. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: you can't sit here and tell me definitively with all

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Speaker 1: of the reasons he has to behave that he absolutely

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Speaker 1: would not too many question marks. Ben Simmons, Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 1: that's way too much. Lebron has a best chance is

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Speaker 1: his head? Want to chance at a ring? What about it?

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Speaker 1: By this year? Who? He has no chance in a

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Speaker 1: ring in LA this year? Lebron? Why because they wanted

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Speaker 1: two years ago and they can't do it again? Oh? Really?

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Speaker 1: When us was Russell Westberg? Gonnat. I just read a

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Speaker 1: report that san Antonio can be the facilitator in taking

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Speaker 1: get back to me right now. They have no chance,

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Speaker 1: no chance. The Lakers have no chance. Rob and Ryan

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Speaker 1: clip that off and put it up Christmas chance. That

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Speaker 1: is nonsense. Oh my god, no chance for Lebron. Lebron's

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Speaker 1: gonna be thirty eight years old in December. My man Michael,

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Speaker 1: he was at an all NBA level by himself. He

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Speaker 1: was an All NBA player this season. Stop it stop.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of all NBA players, not Donovan Mitchell. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I went there, that's all you got. Never a kick fan.

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Speaker 1: I like Mitchell and you ripping down van and hey guys, clip,

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Speaker 1: that just the clip that we got. Two hours left

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Speaker 1: the fire. Here on the herd Chris and j Mack