1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show. I am back 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: from vacation vandercation as I sometimes call it because it's 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: all about branding. And the General. John McLean from the 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle is going to be with us tonight, looking 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: forward to that. He's making his way over and while 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: he does, I just want to tell you that I 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: really enjoyed the show that I did a couple of 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago on the top ten plays in Texans history. 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: I'll review that a little bit with the General and 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: I will be able to rebut some of the rebuttals 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: that John and Drew had in their program about it 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: earlier this week. It's fun at summer stuff. It's light stuff. Look, 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: it's time for football, but it's not time yet. It's 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: still two weeks away from practice number one. 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From the Houston Chronicle. 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: John McLain general, how's it going. Margaret's going great, Thank 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: you very much. How are you doing very well? I 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen you for a while, so this is great. 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I was on a little vaguk and here we go. 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: Get a couple of weeks until the first practice. A 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Jim, hard to believe, isn't it? Yeah? 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: It's it is, and it isn't you know? It's funny 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: because I thought this offseason was kind of zooming along, 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: but as it goes on, I'm thinking, No, I'm ready 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: for it to end. Let's go, let's get into camp, 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: let's get this thing under way. And I wrote a 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: piece this week, and I know you've written a lot 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: about the injury situation. I get asked about injuries more 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: than anything else with this year's team, because that's the 46 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: whole story of last year, or injuries. If they hadn't 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: gotten so hurt, they would have done a whole lot better. 48 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: We all know this by now, But is that the 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: most common thing you get asked about involving somebody's injury, 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: whether it be Watt or Watson or whoever. Yes, I 51 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: think most people understand that Deshaun Watson's going to be ready, 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: but because Watt didn't participate in offseason program, there's more 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: questions about him. And then the other one is Deonta Foreman. Yeah. 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Foreman is the one other than Martinez ranking who could 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: be put on pup. Of course, he will be at 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: the start of camp and then he might be at 57 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the start of the season, but he can come off 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: any time. Yeah, But Deonta Foreman, because of the nature 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: of the injury, rupture to kill, he's tendon major surgery, 60 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: unable to proticipate in offseason program, and because of what 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: he means to the running game, that's the one that 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: people seem to be the most is concerned about. After JJ, 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: What about running back there? Are you concerned? When you 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: get past Lamar Miller. You really don't have a lot 65 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: of proven commodity stuff there other than Alfred Blue, who's 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: good in a pinch. But you want firepower there if 67 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you can possibly get it. And Blue certainly looked better 68 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: last year at times. But is the consistency going to 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: be there? You know, they'd like somebody to step up 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: informant is healthy, then I don't think it's an issue. 71 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: They don't have a great back, but they have serviceable 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: bags and we know Will Brian likes to run the 73 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: ball a lot. And then the threat of Deshaun Watson 74 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: running causes the defense to play differently. You know, they're 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: more spread out, they don't bunch up because they're worried 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: about him, and that's why when he went down in practice, 77 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: they were third in the league with one hundred and 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: thirty eight yards a game rushing, and they would have 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: been second if they've been able to maintain one hundred 80 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: and thirty eight yards so I think the running game 81 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: won't be great, but it'll be good enough. In this offense, 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Let's face it, it's all going to be about the 83 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: passing game and Watson all the weapons he has. Yeah, 84 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: and you and I talked two three weeks ago about this, 85 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: and you kind of scared me a little bit. Scared me. 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: It's not really the right way to put it. But 87 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna take it easy with him. They're not gonna 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: take it easy with them. How are they going to 89 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: ease him in or not ease him into the lineup? 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: JOT as far as practice itself goes and the preseason games, 91 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: do you expect Watson to be full go from day 92 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: one or will it still be sort of an easy 93 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: end process. I think it'll be an easy end process. 94 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: There's no reason to put him out there and have 95 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: him do every single thing, although he could. I think 96 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien since he got here has aired on the 97 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: side of caution when it comes to players coming back 98 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: from injuries, and Watson is your most valuable commodity. There's 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: no need to put him out there. As I use 100 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the term going from zero to sixty the first day. 101 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: I think with all the guys who miss the offseason 102 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: program because they were rehabbing. I think they will have 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: some plan for each one of them. Maybe remember last 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: year JJ practice a day taking day off, practice two days, 105 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: take a day off. It could be something like that. 106 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: We're not going to know till we get to West Virginia, 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: but they'll have a plan for them. And of course 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: everything is directed toward the opener in New England, and 109 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: we're not going to see a lot in preseason about 110 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: what they're going to do offensively. I think we know 111 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: pretty much Romeo Cornell's philosophy and what he wants to 112 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: do on defense. And I think because that Bill O'Brien, 113 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Sean Ryan Kelly, all those coaches, as well as Deshaun 114 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Watson and Brandon Wheaton have been trying to come up 115 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: with new ways of being creative to try to take 116 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: advantage of watson skills set and the skills set of 117 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: their players at wide receiver and tight end. You know, John, 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: While we're on the subject of Watson, which is a 119 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: popular subject, this is I did a show on the 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: top ten plays in the history of the franchise, and 121 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: I put Watson's run against Cincinnati in the top ten, 122 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: and some people came back to me and said, how 123 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: could that be in there? Is that even the best 124 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: Watson play? And I just thought it might be the 125 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: most memorable play of this past season of his rookie run. 126 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case or not, But 127 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: what do you think were the three or two or 128 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: three of the most impressive plays that he made in 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: your opinion in his six and a half games playing 130 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: for the Texas. The one against Kansas City when he 131 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: got the guy, he put the ball from his right 132 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: hand to his left while the pass Russer smashed his 133 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: right hand and tried to strip psych him, put it 134 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: back in his right hand through a forty nine yard 135 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: touchdown past the fuller. That was number one. The number 136 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: two to me was the Seattle where Ryan Griffin missed 137 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: a block he got spun around one eighty and then 138 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: threw a short touchdown past Lamar Miller. And another one 139 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: was not even a touchdown. It was in New England 140 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: when he rolled to the left and did what every 141 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: coach will lose sleepover. He threw back across the field 142 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: with a Patriot about to obliterate him, he threw it 143 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: across the field and I'll guarantee the coaches are going no, no, no. 144 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: Ryan Griffin catches it goes thirty seven yards and Ryan 145 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: said that the dB Chung, Patrick Chung's at it. Yeah, 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and Andre he tackled him, go what the bleep was that? 147 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? There was no way you 148 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: were getting that ball. And Chung was just amazed that 149 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: Watson could make that throw. And I thought that that 150 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: just was so impressive. And the other one was a run, 151 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: of course, but you don't and it was big and 152 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: it beat Cincinnati. So in Seattle they lost, Kansas City, 153 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: they lost, New England they lost, but your play led 154 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: to a victory. It did lead to a victory. And 155 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: my context was this, it was his first start, it 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: was a short week. You had to have that. Wait. 157 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: I know the season ended up being a disaster at 158 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: four and twelve anyway, but at the time, you just 159 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars at the opener in blowout fashion, 160 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: plenty of doubt to go around. New England's up next. 161 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: You're at Cincinnati in a short week and you have 162 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: no tight ends and you're playing seven old lineman sometimes 163 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: and he comes up with a play like that, to 164 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: completely change the game around. That's why I said it. 165 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: And you know it's funny because I think four of 166 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: my top ten plays in the history of the franchise 167 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: were against the Bengals, and you could argue that maybe 168 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: another one or two should be in there. Number one 169 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: has to be TJ's pass to Keivin Walter to win 170 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: the first Division. That's what it was. I named that 171 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 1: the all time best, even though it wasn't a remarkable play. Again, 172 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: it's the context of the situation. And I know Drew 173 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: and John are going to be in here tomorrow given 174 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: me a hard time about this because I was away 175 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: when they did their show giving me a hard time. 176 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: So now I want to be able to rebut and 177 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I did that show and 178 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be in a podcast too. But anyway, I 179 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: did make that at the top. I made the touchdown 180 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: pass to Billy Miller. I think that was fourth on 181 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: the list. I didn't even put it in the top 182 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: three because the Watt pick six against the Bengals. DeAndre 183 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: touchdown pass against Washington was so big because these are 184 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: play is that we talk about. Andre, did I say? 185 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I said, de Andre that's the first one I thought 186 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: about that led to the overtime victory. Yeah, that was 187 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: that was fourth and ten. That was as good of 188 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: play in a hostile environment to win a game in overtime. 189 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: That to me, there's never been a bigger or better 190 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: play considering he was covered. It was at the last 191 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: possible instance, thought instant that shopped through that ball. If 192 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw it, if he doesn't make the catch, 193 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: it's over. Yeah. So that's a big one right there. 194 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: And so I think contributing to a win is one thing, 195 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: but also the context. And I had one play in 196 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: my top ten from a loss, from a losing effort. 197 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Do you think you can guess what that might be? 198 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Remarkable play? It was a defensive touchdown by JJ and 199 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: they in the game against the Colts in twenty fourteen 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: where he recovered the fumble and branded and not because 201 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: it was that amazing. A play was pretty good. Buddy 202 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: picks up a fumble and rumbles into the end zone. 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: And I just remember the roof about to come off 204 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: the stadium at that particular point. I just think that 205 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: everyone felt like the Texans were going to win that night. 206 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: After that, they did not. I can't believe you didn't 207 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: have one of his touchdown catches. I can't believe you 208 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: don't have that Watson Kansas City play on there. I 209 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: home in a loss. Yeah, you're right, because that cut 210 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: at the twenty six twenty right, it was still winnable. 211 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: It was just a great play. And if you're talking 212 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: about great plays, regardless of that cup, well, regardless of 213 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: what it meant to the franchise, just a great football play. 214 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: To me, it would be right up there behind Andre's 215 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: kedge at Washington. I think when you go remarkable plays, 216 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: no matter what the context, there are so many you 217 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: can choose from, so many Arian Foster plays Andrey Johnson plays. 218 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean there are a lot, but I had to 219 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: have numerous things come into play. Was it a win? 220 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: Was it a big win? Was it a big moment? 221 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: Was it a moment that will never forget? Was it 222 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: a play that will always talk about? No matter what 223 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: if the Texans go on to win the next three 224 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowls, you'll still talk about Andre Johnson's fourth and 225 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: ten because it was that remarkable. So that's how it's 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: got to stand up. It's got to stand the test 227 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: of time. That was my basis for the criteria. Anyway, 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: you know what will end up being the biggest play 229 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: in franchise history when somebody makes a play that clinches 230 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: and the parents in the Super Bowl. Yes, yeah, like 231 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: a late stop or a touchdown catch to put it 232 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: out of reach or something, or even a big first 233 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: down run out the clock is that'd be great. We'll 234 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: see if they could pull that kind of thing off. 235 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: All right, So training camp starts in a couple of 236 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: weeks general, and what are you looking for right away? 237 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: I think where they line up and how they line up, 238 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: and maybe who's lining up might be the biggest one, 239 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: because you want to see Nick Martin get out there. 240 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: You mentioned the forum, and you expect them to start 241 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: on pup. But you get my drift here. A lot 242 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: of it is going to be who's healthy, who's out here, 243 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: and then you go from there and then how they 244 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: use them, meaning what does Watson actually do? And when 245 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: JJ comes in, what does he actually do? And everybody's 246 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: curious about the offense. Some line, Well it's gonna be 247 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Henderson and Davenport and Calmante and Fulton 248 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: and then Martin. I'm assuming Martin's gonna be ready. You know, 249 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: he's recovered from ankle's surgery twice and they really need him. 250 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: But I have a lot of people. In fact, I 251 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: was asked this morning by a gentleman who introduced himself. 252 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: First thing he asked, I was waiting for Watson or Watt, 253 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: and he asked him about the offensive line. So that's 254 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: a concern with all Texans fans, anybody with an interest 255 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: in the team. So watching them line up and then 256 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: the other one, I'm curious about. When Romeo was a 257 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: coordinator two years ago, Clowney was primarily an end. Last year, 258 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Clowney's primarily an outside linebacker who of course moves around 259 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: and does both. But will he be an outside linebacker 260 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: who drops down or will he be an end who 261 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: stands up? I think he does both. I think it's 262 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna do both for Romeo Cornell. They're gonna move him around, 263 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: they're not gonna let you know. And the training cap 264 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna line up. However, they lie up. And there's 265 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: something very important about that, because if he plays more 266 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: snaps as an outside linebacker than a defensive end, and 267 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't sign a new contract and they franchise him, 268 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: there's a discrepancy between those positions about what the franchise 269 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: fee is. But doesn't a good agent go in saying, listen, 270 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: I know what you call him. Like Ronkowski, I know 271 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: what you call him. But it's about the production, right, 272 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: It's about the impact. You're a franchise. You're gonna be franchise. 273 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: They got to know. The league has to know what 274 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: to classify you. Good point back and watch film and 275 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: count every single snap good point. Clowney's the holder for 276 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: extra points and field goals. All of a sudden, he 277 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: may be supposed to be down at the last NS 278 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: and he stands up on his own. He could be 279 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 1: paid like the top five holders. Okay, that's who he is, 280 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: all right. The General stays with us. We mentioned defense. 281 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about that. How's that 282 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: going to look, especially compared to the rest of the 283 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: AFC South. And let's bounce around the league a bit 284 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access he visits just about every Thursday. 285 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: John McClain, the General from the Houston Chronicle. He would 286 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: have been here last Thursday, but we were at the 287 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: building was kind of shut down week of the fourth. 288 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: The building kind of closes we were doing best of 289 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Shows summer celebration last week. Thank you Johnny Harris for 290 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: handling that. The general is here tonight in the Hunday 291 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio Mark Vandermer with you. Let's talk defense 292 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: a little bit here, John. We've talked about a bunch 293 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: of this offseason. But the more I look at it, 294 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: the more I think that if healthy, they can push 295 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: for Look, I can't have them unseating the Jaguars as 296 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: the best defense in the division. But let's just start 297 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: with Tennessee. Can they pick off Tennessee with some decent 298 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: health here, Let's say two of the top three pass 299 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: rushers healthy and you take it from there. There will there. 300 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: I think there's defense can be great if it stays healthy. 301 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: If you think of if Clowney is a linebacker, Clowney 302 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: and Merciless, is there a better to someome No, if 303 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: you look inside with McKinney, Cunningham and Cole Cunningham and 304 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Cole coming off good rookie years and very good off 305 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: seasons cord to Bill O'Brien, is there a better group 306 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: of linebackers five deep? I don't think that there is. 307 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: And if what's able to play a full season, say 308 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: reader plays the nose, you know who's going to be 309 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: the right end. Or if Brandon Dunne continues to play 310 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: well the way he did last year, maybe readers are 311 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: right end and the three men front. So then you 312 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: have three new safeties with Tyrn Matthew and Justin Reid 313 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and Karen Jackson in one new corner and Aaron Colvin 314 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: a healthy Kevin Johnson and with a pass rush that 315 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: was missing last season other than Clowney. That'll make the 316 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: secondary even better. Injuries will play a role, of course, 317 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking the Jaguars who had one serious injury 318 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: and the Texans had thirteen starters on ir somehow that's 319 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: got to even up, and I think that's one of 320 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: the things that may help them. Look what's going on 321 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville with Marcel Darius. He's got two women accusing 322 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: him a sexual assault and that could cause him to 323 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: be suspended, could cause them all kind of problems, and 324 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: he's a very valuable member of their front seven. And 325 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: I just think this defense, if it can be number 326 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: one two years ago with what missing thirteen games, imagine 327 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: how good it can be with the addition of all 328 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: the talent Cornell coming back a good offense where it's 329 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: not going to be on the field all the time. 330 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: I just think it's got a chance to be special, 331 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: not just not giving up yards, but impacting the game, 332 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: helping to win games, turnovers, shortening the field, score a 333 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: few touchdowns, don't commit as many penalties, things like that. 334 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: You know there was some big free agent acquisition by 335 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,479 Speaker 1: teams this offseason. You look at Kirk Cousins in Minnesota, 336 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: you look at Kate's Keenam in Denver. Do I call 337 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: that big? Well, it's a quarterback acquisition, and if they 338 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: have a big turnaround as a team, he's gonna get 339 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for it, assuming he plays well. 340 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's too much of an assumption 341 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: right now. But the point is this tyrant Matthew. If 342 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: it goes swimmingly, and it certainly could, he could be 343 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: up there as the most game changing free agent acquisition. 344 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna get Watt and Whitney back. So if 345 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: they're playing a bunch and Matthew's playing great, it might 346 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: be credited to their appearance their return as well. But 347 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: if he plays great and gets picks and looks like 348 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: he did in twenty fifteen. You got a heck of 349 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: a story on your hands here. This could really work 350 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: out extremely well. It's kind of like the offensive line 351 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: and that you need everything to break right. The defense 352 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: should be a lot better than that. But the point 353 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: is this, you need health to break right, and if healthy, 354 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: they should be able to make a ton of plays. 355 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: They should be could be the best defense in the NFL. 356 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why anybody can dispute that based on 357 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: what we've just talked about. Clowney, what merciless Matthew. I mean, 358 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: they've got m they've got some good talent. They need 359 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: a little more depth, But I think the defense is 360 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: gonna be good and it'll help, of course, because O'Brien's 361 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna run the ball a lot. They're gonna score a 362 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns, so the defense is not gonna be 363 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: worn down. The defense has always been good against the run. 364 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: Even when it was stinking it up last season against 365 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: the past no pass rush, they still gave up a 366 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: fewer one hundred yards game rushing, I believe, and I 367 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: think now with all those guys back, they will shut 368 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: down the run. And the more I think about it, 369 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: the more fired up. I am. I wish they could 370 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: just skip the preseason, which of course is a total way, 371 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: skipped the preseason and just get ready to go to Foxburg. 372 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: I like the preseason. I'm in the minority of people 373 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: who mark van de Meer, mothers, daddy's, girlfriends, husbands and kids. 374 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: I the only one that cares. Now, it's a The 375 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: TV ratings prove that people definitely watch. I'll put it 376 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: that way. They definitely watch. Care might be a different 377 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: kind of word, but I think they do care. If 378 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: they watch their care they want the other team put 379 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: anything on TV it says NFL, there's gonna be a 380 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: section public it's gonna watch it because it's the NFL. 381 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: It's a big section. It's as big as people watch 382 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: the American League Championship Series in the Western Conference Finals. 383 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: It's that big. It's a pretty big Chuck secondary john 384 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: give me your nickel starters here outside, you're going to 385 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: J Joe and Kevin Johnson. In all likelihood, there's a 386 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: chance Aaron Colan could start outside and then go inside 387 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: and the nickel and bring in J Joe. So that 388 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: would be the three corners. Remember last year, even when 389 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: Romeo was here. They don't do a lot of nickel. 390 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: They have times one lineman on the field. Watch if 391 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 1: you're counting. Clowney's a linebacker, right, and they have like 392 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: six dB he's four linebackers and one line They do 393 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: that and they move them around. Remember when you'd see 394 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: Clowney over the center, Cushing over the center. And that's 395 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: why when you got you can get all those three 396 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 1: safeties on the field, and that's gonna be exciting. Matthew, 397 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: I think Justin Reid is gonna be really good. I 398 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: think he's gonna start opposite of Tyrn Matthew and so 399 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: I think that you'll have the three safeties, the top 400 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: three corners, four linebackers, and Watt in a lot of 401 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: passing situations, top three corners and maybe Kareem Well, Kareem's 402 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: now that he's a safety full time, he's gonna be 403 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: He's a safety who can play corner instead of a 404 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: corner who can play safety. If they're in diame a lot, 405 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: then you have Kareem and Matthew yea, and they'll find 406 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: a way to get Kareem Jackson on the field. I 407 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: don't think an injuries, of course, Kevin Johnson needs to 408 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: have a full season not injured. Then he's got a 409 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: chance to play well, get a new contract. Right. They 410 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: showed a lot of faith in him by picking up 411 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: that fifth year option and paying him nine million. But 412 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: he's got to stay healthy. His style of play. It's 413 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: not conducive to stay unhealthy because he's so he's so physical. 414 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: And maybe Luke Richardson and the new sports performance staff 415 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: can put a put a little meat on him and 416 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: then not to mention to help him get stronger. But 417 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: you can't have too many defensive bags, as you know. 418 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: And if Andrew Luck comes back and stays back, and 419 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: Mariota stays healthy and Mortals improves, those dbs are gonna 420 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: be so important well affecting this is defense, all defenses, 421 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: all thirty two. The new helmet rule. And I mentioned 422 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: that I get asked about injuries an awful lot in 423 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: my travels. But the helmet rule has come up a 424 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: lot of people wondering what is going on with the 425 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: game of football. They don't quite understand the helmet rule, 426 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: but they've read stuff to the effect of, oh, you 427 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: can't tackle the same way anymore. It's gonna be completely different, 428 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: or NFL football is going to evolve in the next ten, fifteen, 429 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: twenty years into something more like flag You see flag 430 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: football on television now NFL Network is televising. It just 431 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: doesn't look right to me on TV. And I'm a 432 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: big flag football proponent. I love flag football. Your kids 433 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: should all play flag football, but seeing grown professional athletes 434 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: playing flag football just looks strange to me. Sometimes on TV, 435 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. I don't watch it. Okay, as far 436 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: as the helmet rule, remember they they talked recently, you 437 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: know they they've waited really late to get out the 438 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: definitive rules on the targeting. And then there's there is 439 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: incidental contact. So in other words, it's it's if you 440 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: use it as a weapon is one thing, But if 441 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: there's incidental contact, what if a guard comes off and 442 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: he's planning to use his shoulder and the offensive lineman 443 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: slips in their helmets head? Are they gonna throw a 444 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: penalty there? And so much of it mark is subjective. 445 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: I feel so bad for the officials, and they've got 446 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: so many new officials trying to officiate at a time 447 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: when the NFL is more complicated than any time in 448 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: its history. I think will they might have been better 449 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: to hang on to all those guys that left, if possible, 450 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: to keep them around for another year while they make 451 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: they transition into the new rules such a fast game. 452 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: Would you be in favor of a review system where 453 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: challenge wise, it's not like you're gonna stop the game 454 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 1: every moment. It feels like that in college and sometimes 455 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: when I'm watching professional basketball that they can stop it 456 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: for almost anything, and then when you want them to 457 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: stop it for something, they say they can't review that. 458 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: All right, I don't know it's one of those deals. 459 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: But in the NFL, I would be totally in favor 460 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: of I can challenge a pass interference call, I can 461 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: challenge it. I can use one of my challenges on 462 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: that call now, not a non call. So I guess 463 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: that kind of stinks. If you feel like you got 464 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: mugged and they didn't throw the flag, I think they 465 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: would start throwing flags if you could challenge them. Maybe 466 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: they'd air on the throwing the flag side of things, 467 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. Just kind of like 468 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: they let them place at the whistle because they know 469 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: they can always go back and they would hate to 470 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: wipe out a would be touchdown because of a bad call. 471 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: What would your opinion be on that challengeable pass interference 472 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: and some other calls that we don't see challengeable right now? 473 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm for challenging any player you want 474 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: to challenge, but you don't get any more challenges, therefore 475 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: the game doesn't slow down. Yep. I think there's too 476 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: many things that we see that are wrong and they go, 477 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: that's not reviewable. I think if Bill O'Brien wants to 478 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: challenge any play on the field, holding, he should be 479 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: able to do that, and if he's limited and if 480 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, he loses his time out. Yeah, I 481 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: think that's pretty good. And here's the argument to support that. 482 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: When the challenges started, they didn't have all of this 483 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: where you automatically review every turnover, you automatically review every score. 484 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: You would have to throw your flag to get those 485 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: things reviewed. You don't have to anymore. So really, you 486 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: have more challenges available to you than you used to. 487 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: They do it for you now on turnovers and scores, 488 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: so those other instances. Now we're adding to it with 489 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: different penalties that would be reviewable. But I'm all in 490 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: favor of that. I think it helps the game. You 491 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: want accuracy to prevail here, and I know it does 492 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: kind of slow the game down. But now they take commercials. 493 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: They're doing those box in the screen where you can 494 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: run the commercial and see some not quite action but 495 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: see a piece of the field at the same time, 496 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: so you're not quote going away those kinds of things. 497 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: I just hope it doesn't slow down the game. Like 498 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned basketball, even baseball. Now they review more and 499 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: they're all, I don't know why the officials all got 500 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: to get together when they're making it in New York, 501 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: Like they need to stay in their spots in New 502 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: York tells the home played umpire for instance, good or bad, 503 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: yes or no, and that's it. They don't need all 504 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: walk over and stand there to get a signal. Right. Well, 505 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: I think communication is difficult sometimes maybe you want some 506 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: opinions or whatever. With football, sometimes you get the well, 507 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna turn this down or we're gonna 508 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: go ahead and overturn this, but we need to know 509 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: where the clock is, you know where it should be 510 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, and I get all that, but I'm I'm 511 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: with you. Sometimes it's so obvious where it's easy on 512 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: your couch. I know, I understand that, but it's so obvious. 513 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: Just okay, let's move on, all right, that that was 514 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: a good call. Let's move on. You shouldn't make it 515 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: a big federal investigation every single time, but we all 516 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: want the game to be more accurately called. There's no 517 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: doubt about that. And I think the coaches would really 518 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: be in favor of that. You know, they'd they'd love 519 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: to challenge everything. Yes, they would be, and they'd like 520 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: to have as many challenges as they could. They like 521 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: to have no no losing timeouts, that those flags would 522 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: be raining flags out there, unlimited timeouts like an NBA 523 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: game where have unlimited timeouts. It feels like that, you know, 524 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: every time I look at the little timeout insignias, a 525 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: little hash marks or whatever they are using in their 526 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: graphics package on an NBA TV broadcast, it's hit four 527 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: of them and we got a minute to go in 528 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: the game. But they might use all four because they 529 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: need to advance the ball. Don't get me started on 530 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: NBA changes I would make, because I could do an 531 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: entire program on that. John McClain is off for the 532 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: entire program and coming up, let's go around the league. Oh, 533 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: another rule change we didn't get to and an official 534 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: weight in on that. It's coming up on Texans All Access. 535 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: John McClain stays with us here in the Hunday Texans 536 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: Radio studio. Mark vandermer with you on Texans All Access. Okay, General, 537 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: there's gonna be an officials clinic in Dallas this weekend. 538 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Terry McCauley former NFL referee. He's an analyst with NBC now, 539 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: so this is a big popular thing. Of course, we've 540 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: talked about this previously with referees officials helping out the 541 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: TV network's excellent idea. But he says the kickoff change 542 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: maybe the biggest change he's ever seen, the kickoff rule change, 543 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: and this is something that is going to be very 544 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: interesting to watch. We talked about it with Brad Seely. 545 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure he wants to see how it's going to 546 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: work out these preseason games. This might be the most 547 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: important thing that the coaches see in the preseason games, 548 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: never mind everything else, how the rookies are looking, how 549 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: the kickoff rules play out in an actual game environment, 550 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: because that's the best look they're going to get prior 551 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: to the regular season. The really good coaches like Brad 552 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: Seely should have an advantage because they're good coaches and 553 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: get a jump start on taking advantage of the new rule, 554 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: assuming you get the players to do it. And there 555 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: will be others that have to lag behind and watch 556 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: and see how the ones at the end of the class, 557 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: how they have adjusted to it and succeeded with it. 558 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: And you know, the Texan's coverage returns have been horrendous, 559 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: and I think Seeley whose regard as one of the 560 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: best special teams coaches ever and Texan US there's eighth 561 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: eighth team in thirty years and he's got three rings 562 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: from the Patriots and and I can't wait to see 563 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: what's coming with their coverage and return teams with Brad Seeley. 564 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: It's not about the kicking of the holding or John 565 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Weekes being the best snapper in history. But I think 566 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: this we're all going to be watching them because we're 567 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: all interested to see if Seeley can do what Bob 568 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: Laschevski and Larry Zoe could not do. And that's turned 569 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: around these special teams. There's still time for them to 570 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: change or adjust the roster. Obviously a lot of opportunities. Well, 571 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, that'll be adjustice, but heading into camp, it 572 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: is what it is right now. Were you surprised in 573 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: many Camp two putters, which they've done before and only 574 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: one place kicker. Did you think they might bring in 575 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: some competition or something alongside Kamy Fairbear? I think that 576 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: the bringing in Trevor Daniel has something has nothing to 577 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: do with anything but Shane Lechler's age and the fact 578 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: that he's not there's no need for him to get 579 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: out there and wear out his leg in an offseason 580 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: program or training camp, okay, just to get a little 581 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: extra work in, just to give him a breather. And 582 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: I did a story on Trevor Daniel at the end 583 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: of the OTAs it was the last one I did, 584 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: about why he would come here and get behind Shane Lechler. 585 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: Know anyone's gonna win the job, and he said, opportunity 586 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: to learn from one of the best, and I thought 587 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: that was smart. And he also knows Shane. I don't 588 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: know when it will be the end of his career, 589 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: but you know, he's like turning fifty two in August, 590 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: so at some point he's going to be walking away. 591 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: But to come here and be able to watch him 592 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: and learn from him was very important to Dan. Daniel. 593 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: Is it Daniel or Daniels? I believe it's Daniel. Trevor 594 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: is good. I can't remember. I think memberies from University Tennessee. 595 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: I got Daniel, okay, yeah, that we'll stick with that one. 596 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: Along the lines of TV, because I mentioned mcaulay being 597 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: a TV commentator, Jeff Fisher is going to call a 598 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: game for Fox. What do you think a Fisher as 599 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: a TV analyst potential? I told Jeff last year he 600 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: should go into TV because I thought he'd be real 601 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: good at it. He's very analytically smart. He knows the 602 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: rules inside out. I've never seen a coach or knew 603 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: the rules better than him because he was co chair 604 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: of the Competition Committee for years. And uh, like, they 605 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: know he's gonna call that game, there's gonna be other games. 606 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: I thought he'd be good as a studio analyst as well. 607 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: And Fox has spent a lot of money on the 608 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: NFL again and they're looking for new blood, and I 609 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: think Jeff, Jeff sixty. I know he wants to coach again. 610 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he will coach again, and I think 611 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: this is a good way for him. To stay involved 612 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: in the game. What about a fisher. Look, I'm not 613 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: saying he should do it, but if you really wanted 614 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: to coach, would he ever be an assistant? Would he 615 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: ever try to do that and be the emeritus associate 616 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: head coach for a younger guy like a McVeigh coming 617 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: in who might want somebody around that he can lean on. 618 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: He was an assistant and he was a defensive coordinator 619 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: for in nineteen ninety four. That's the last time he 620 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: was an assistant coach. That's ninety four, fourteen, twenty four 621 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: years ago. And you know, maybe he's at offers. I 622 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: don't know to do that for younger guys. Some young 623 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: guys are worried about threats, and Jeff made no bones 624 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: about it. He wanted another chance to be a head coach. 625 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: But I don't think that he's gonna get that, And 626 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: I think now he'll be if this is the next 627 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: part of his life. I think he'll dive into it 628 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: and something that I think is interesting and I don't 629 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: nobody's asked me about it, so I wouldn't try to 630 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: defend it. After watching what the Oilers went through their 631 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: last two years here, and they're first two years there 632 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: the transition. People look at his record during that period 633 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: and rip him because he didn't have a winning record. 634 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody had a winning record going through that, 635 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: and the people that say that were not there. You 636 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: don't have a clue. And then going through the same 637 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: thing with the Rams last year to help get everything 638 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: to transition, where you're training one place, training camps another, 639 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: and then the games or another and you're moving across 640 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: halfway across the country. So there's a lot. That's why 641 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: I would almost throw out those five seasons and look 642 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: at what he did the rest of his career and 643 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: the reason he's not gonna get a jobs because he 644 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: didn't win in Saint Louis. Well, when you look at 645 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: and look, I'm not going to make this a Jeff 646 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: Fisher show here, but and I hate defending the Tennessee 647 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Titans or anybody associated with them, but this is just 648 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: the way it is. When they drafted Vince Young, that 649 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: might not have been his guy was Bud Adams guy. 650 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: But his guy was Matt Liner, all right, so that 651 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: might not have been a great decision. Vince did have 652 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: a winning record as a starter. As we look back, 653 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: he did go thirteen and three with Kerry Collins. Also 654 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, Jeff Fisher did, so you 655 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: have to give him some credit. That and aging Kerry Collins. 656 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: I know Collins took three different teams to the playoffs, 657 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: so good for him. And another thing that they he 658 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: advanced young Clash from the get go. Maybe if Matt 659 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: Leinert there went there, his career had been different, maybe 660 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: they would have decided the last minute to take Jake Cutler. 661 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: But I thought, I just when I see people talking 662 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: about that. Actually cup last year I was on an 663 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: NBC National show and they were ripping up Fisher and 664 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: I pointed these things out and it asks, oh, well, 665 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: I didn't realize all that said, Well, there's no reason 666 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: you would you weren't there. You gotta talk to the 667 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: general about these things. You know, we've done shows, the 668 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: what if shows with the Texans, what if so and 669 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: so doesn't get hurt or so and so whatever the 670 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: case might be. And there's a lot of what if 671 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: shop doesn't get hurt in twenty eleven, But what about 672 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: what if San Francisco had not traded up to get 673 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: Alden Smith. Oh that's a big one's first choice but 674 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: I thought it was Peterson. Anyway, well, he was unavailable. 675 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, John, If Liner doesn't 676 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: get hurt in twenty eleven, I wonder what happens. He 677 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: gets hurt in the first half of his only start 678 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville and T. J. Yates takes over the rest 679 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: of his history. Does Liner through it least as well 680 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: as Yates does? And maybe he doesn't turn the ball 681 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: over in the Baltimore game. I don't know. Maybe he 682 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: does worse, who knows, but I think that would have 683 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: been very interesting. I can tell you this Liner's not 684 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: making a seventeen yard scramble on third and fifteen against 685 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals in December of twenty eleven, but they might 686 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: have won the division anyway. If you go back and 687 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: look at ER's career in Arizona, there was some times 688 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: early on where he actually played well. Yeah, and then 689 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: they had firings and new systems and everything, and yeah, 690 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: people wondered if his heart was really in football, And 691 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: I felt bad for him that he didn't get a 692 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: chance to do so. Didn't here when Shop suffered the injury, 693 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: But uh, it did lead you know, it made a 694 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: hero out of TJH. My favorite meme ever was when 695 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: Shop got hurt and I needed some shoring up and 696 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: somebody tweeted out the picture of Liner in the hot 697 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: tub with all the co eds. Whenever he shot that photo. 698 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: Maybe it was already a pro at that point, but 699 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: it just it was the photo of him and all 700 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: the girls, and it said, Houston, I got this, and 701 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: I just cracked up, like, oh, we're in good hands 702 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: at the Liner, okay. And the ladies love Liner. I 703 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: mean I was at an event with Liner, Shop Yates, 704 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of tech. It was a fashion show and 705 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: women were flocking to Liner just to get his autograph 706 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean it was all on, you know, 707 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: the up and up and everything. It was just hilarious though, 708 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: like you know, all the rest of the guys are 709 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: standing over there like, yeah, we're professional football players too. 710 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: But they liked Liner for some reason. I don't think 711 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: the women were gonna flock to Matt and DJ and 712 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: not exactly Yeah, yeah, not exactly. I don't know if 713 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: DJ was then, but whatever he was agin You talk 714 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: about a big man on campus, Leonard at USC, I 715 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: wonder why he wanted to stay another year member his 716 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: first house in Arizona had a slide from his bedroom 717 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: down into the swimming pool that had to be with 718 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: a hot tub. Shot was taken. John. We were talking 719 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: about television stuff. Okay, so the LA Chargers. I almost 720 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: said San Diego, but stay with me here. The LA 721 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: Chargers add Daniel Jeremiah to their broadcast team, and I 722 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: like Daniel. He used to work with us a little 723 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: bit here. He was sort of a contractor with us. 724 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: He's been a scout for a couple of NFL teams, 725 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: So good for them. But Dan Fouts is off their 726 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: preseason TV broadcasts. He was in a radio interview recently 727 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: and they said La Charger Hall of Famer Dan Fouts 728 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: and he said, don't call me an LA Charger. I'm 729 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: a San Diego Charger. They don't like that because they're 730 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: really trying to embrace Los Angeles, but I kind of 731 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: liked that Fouts is so loyal to San Diego. Also, 732 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: they hired Ladanian Thomlas do that preseason TV and they 733 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: said that Dan didn't had time restraints and if he 734 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: was able to make the time in the future that 735 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: the possibility could come back. But he's not coming back, 736 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: and um, that's too bad, because you know, Dan's one 737 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: of the top analysts on TV and has been for years, 738 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: and it's it's too bad it had to end like that. 739 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: People are so sensitive, and I can understand the Chargers 740 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: be in that way because all the people picking them 741 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: to win that division. It's hard to win a division 742 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: when you're playing sixteen road games, even in their own stadium. Well, 743 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: it's so big, you can't expect them to sell that out. 744 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, it's only twenty seven thousand seats 745 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: and they can't sell it out in the opposing teams. 746 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm wondering when they move into the new stadium, unless 747 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: they won two Super Bowls, how are they going to 748 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: get eighty thousand people to come there. We'll tell me 749 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: this job. A lot of people are picking them to 750 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: do pretty well. To sir, Why is that? Well, I 751 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: guess because Philip Rivers and Melvin Gordon. Well, they've got 752 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: to do two defensive vans, Ingram and Bozza. But they 753 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: still are playing without a home field advantage. If any 754 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: other team in the league didn't have a home field advantage, 755 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: would you pick them to win a division or make 756 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs? Probably not. It's almost like they suspect that 757 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: they've adjusted to it, but that that is frightening for 758 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: them to know they don't have that proverbial three point 759 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: advantage when you play at home, and every time they 760 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 1: played there, not only do you have no crowd noise, 761 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: they said that the opposing team in most instances had 762 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: more fans than they did, especially when it was from 763 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: big cities. By the way, you know, I love a 764 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: dan Fout's reference every once in a while. Even though 765 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: he was the manage through four interceptions against the Oilers 766 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventy nine Divisional playoff game that was 767 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: one of the greatest. Was the greatest pro football winn 768 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: in the history of this city. But John dan Fouts 769 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: says he remembered properly. Was he better than people remember? 770 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: Do they not remember him well enough? Or is he 771 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: properly labeled in facts? Was quarterback of some of the 772 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: greatest offenses in history. He got two AFC Championship games. 773 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: Wasn't his fault they didn't get to the Super Bowl? 774 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: And he is in the Pro Football of Fame. Is 775 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: one of the most prolific quarterbacks in history. But when 776 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: you talk about top ten quarterbacks in history. He's not 777 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: on that list. I don't believe he would be, like 778 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: in the top twenties. I think that's a fair place 779 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: to put him. But he was my favorite. It's kind 780 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: of like Jimmy Page is my favorite guitarist ever, but 781 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's the best. I don't think he's 782 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: the best rock guitarist ever. Jimmy Page, Jimmy Hendricks. I 783 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: think Jimmy Hendricks is the best rock guitarist ever, and 784 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: I think Page is right up there. It's very hard. 785 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: It's subjective, obviously. I mean I love Santana, I love Page, 786 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: I love Flaps. You saw who, Jimmy? You did? You 787 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: saw Zeppelin? No, Jimmy Hendricks, Oh you did what? Yeah? Where? Dallas? 788 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I saw that Zeppelin in Dallas? And uh. 789 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: We used to have to go from Waco to Dallas 790 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: or Houston, but we mainly went to down Was that 791 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: reunion arena? Yes? No, this was their old collisim there 792 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: there was no reunion arena. Wow, that's a while ago. Hey, 793 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: one more entertainment. Firecrackers during the middle You're sitting there 794 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, of course, everybody's dropping acid, 795 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: smoking pot and whatever else, and here it comes firecrackers 796 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: while you're trying to listen to the bands. But somehow 797 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: I added to the atmosphere. Oh my gosh, I'm sure 798 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: it did. General one more entertainment note for you, Tom 799 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: Cruise Top Gun reboot. Not a reboot, it's actually a sequel. 800 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: I guess it's called Maverick. Is this a good idea? 801 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: Isn't it a little late for this? I love the 802 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: Mission Impossible movies. Keep doing those, but oh, Top Gun, 803 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: Well it's you know, he's now he'll be what fifty 804 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 1: five years old? Yeah, but he's very and so us 805 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: kid is one of the Top Guns. So will Tom 806 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,959 Speaker 1: Cruise have a kid? Oh it's like Creed. Yeah, who's 807 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: buddies with Anthony Edwards kid? And will Meg Ryan have 808 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: a kid? So there's all kinds of possibilities. The kid 809 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: is Val Kilmer is coming back as ice Man, and 810 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: that Val Kilmer, and I say this with all respect, 811 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to lose a lot of weight. Was 812 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: getting the cockpit and uh and you know the Kelly McGillis, 813 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: it's Tom gonna have a romantic interest. Yeah. A great 814 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: song by Berlin that there's a lot of in the 815 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Loggins song people Forget. There was two great songs 816 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: in Top Gun, and I've seen it. When it comes on, 817 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: I'll flip it on and watch it, and this one, 818 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: I'll check it out. I didn't think Creed. I didn't 819 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: have any idea Creed would end up being great, and 820 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: it was, and then I can't wait for the next one. 821 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: John was great too. What do you have going out 822 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: on the Chronicle Texas Sports Nation? Aaron Wilson and I've 823 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: been doing stories every day on the Texans and twenty 824 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: nine ninety five a year, and then we're getting ready 825 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: to go to training camp. And thank you very much 826 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: and I will see you next week. All right, that's 827 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: general John McClain from the Houston Chronicle. Read his stuff 828 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: at Houston Chronicle dot com and you can hear this 829 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: show again on Houston Texans dot com or wherever fine 830 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: podcasts are available. I'll be back with you tomorrow night 831 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: with John and Drew. We'll have some fun. Let's do it. 832 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: Thanks very much for listening. I have a great night 833 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: in Go Texans.