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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here

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<v Speaker 1>from our studios at Lambeaufield. Wes three practices in the

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<v Speaker 1>books for the twenty twenty four Packers training Camp all

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<v Speaker 1>non padded practices to this point, basically practices much like

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<v Speaker 1>OTA's and Mini camp and what we saw in the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll just throw it out to you open ended

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<v Speaker 1>right here through the first three practices. What observation is

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of your list.

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<v Speaker 2>The defensive front of the green Bay Packers is a

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<v Speaker 2>force to be reckoned with right now. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>offensively green Bay is dealing with a lot. They're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do different rotations. They obviously don't have Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 2>through these first three practices, but I think the way

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<v Speaker 2>that that defensive line, that front four has performed so far,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'd give any team any offense in the

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<v Speaker 2>league fits right now. I've been so blown away, and

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<v Speaker 2>they talked about it in locker room yesterday. The idea

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<v Speaker 2>of being able to pass rush in waves in different

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<v Speaker 2>different combinations you're gonna be able to throw at people.

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<v Speaker 2>Rashan Gary, as he often does, has just completely shot

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<v Speaker 2>out of the gate in this camp. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>has been almost unblockable. You look at what the interior

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<v Speaker 2>defensive line, Davante Wyatt, I think has been really disruptive

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<v Speaker 2>so far. Carl Brooks had some good pass rushes in

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<v Speaker 2>practice on Wednesday, Kenny Clark, Preston Smith, Kingsleyanningbari, the list

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<v Speaker 2>goes on and on and on of these defensive linemen

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<v Speaker 2>and so many guys listening to them talk in the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room this week, mentioning just the excitement that they feel.

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<v Speaker 2>And again they're not trying to bury anything that's been

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, but the idea, especially for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like Wyatt, where he feels like he's getting more back

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<v Speaker 2>to his room as a pass rusher, as a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that is just going to get off the ball, win

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<v Speaker 2>his matchups, and get to the quarterback. This often this defense,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, in the way it's constructed, in the

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<v Speaker 2>way they've been building this thing. Outside of Kenny Clark,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Gudokuntz has drafted all of these guys. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>now seeing that this scheme that Jeff Haffley's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bringing together with what they have up front. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the most exciting things that we saw

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the spring and now it's carrying over into the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a couple of caveats I'll throw into that. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree wholeheartedly with everything that you're saying. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>caveats I'll throw into it. One is that the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have been without their starting right tackle, Zach tom He's

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<v Speaker 1>not out there for eleven on eleven yet, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>been some switching going on. It was Andre Dillard at

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle with the Ones. Now it's been Kadeem Telfort

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<v Speaker 1>in the third practice. Will see what happens there going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a first a rookie first round draft pick in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix in Jordan Morgan, who's making an adjustment from

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<v Speaker 1>playing tackle in college to playing guard. He's been all

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<v Speaker 1>of his eleven on eleven snaps, at least that I've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>have been at right guard as he is in that

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<v Speaker 1>competition with h with Sean Ryan, and Sean Ryan has

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<v Speaker 1>also been taking some snaps at left guard when Elton

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<v Speaker 1>Jenkins needs a breather, and that's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>switch for him because all of his playing time last

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<v Speaker 1>year was at right guard, and switching sides is not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly easy. So there are those caveats on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the pads aren't on yet. I always,

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<v Speaker 1>I always take the pass rushing thing with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of grain of salt until the pads go on,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think the pads help offensive lineman help in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the leverage. It's not to say that that

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<v Speaker 1>defensive linemen don't use the pads for for leverage as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it the pads can slow things down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and slowing things down can help the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen. So I throw those caveats out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Elton Jenkins also didn't practice on Wednesday with the veteran resting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, he took he took An took a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>rest day. So Sean Ryan actually pretty much played the

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<v Speaker 1>entire Premitta set at left guard on Wednesday. But all

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, you cannot help but be impressed with

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<v Speaker 1>how Rashaan Gary looks right now. And what it's made

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<v Speaker 1>me think about is, you know the old adage that

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<v Speaker 1>gets that gets talked about quite a bit in this

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<v Speaker 1>league that it's the second year back after an ACL

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<v Speaker 1>injury where a guy is really one hundred back to himself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think in part that's what we're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see with Rashaun Gary here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I go back to last season and think

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<v Speaker 2>about just how impressive it was that he made it

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<v Speaker 2>back as quickly as he did. But the first five

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<v Speaker 2>six weeks of the season, he was in a pitch count,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak. He had three sacks against the New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans Saints on twenty three defensive snatch. Yeah. In week

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<v Speaker 2>week two, Yeah, and he's just he wasn't getting that

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<v Speaker 2>type of work week three, but it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>the home open. So those are the aspects of this

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<v Speaker 2>thing I think you have to consider. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes back to what he said when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>to him in the offseason. He got back here in April.

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<v Speaker 2>He remembers seeing the training staff the first time, Basically

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<v Speaker 2>that fork in the road where you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go work with the training staff, You're going to get ready,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to go practice, you're going to go through

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<v Speaker 2>the three phases. And he's like, I miss that, And

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<v Speaker 2>if in watching any of his videos, the way that

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<v Speaker 2>he goes about his offseason training. The mindset that he takes,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is all football. Everything that he has, every

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<v Speaker 2>minute in his day is geared towards football. And Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Smith said it, it's almost six years ago now that

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a guy that is that physically talented,

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<v Speaker 2>the former number one recruit in the country when he

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<v Speaker 2>went to Michigan, and he has that type of worth

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<v Speaker 2>work ethic, those guys do not fail. And more and

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<v Speaker 2>more he's been building up towards this thing. We're still

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for that, like big, massive breakout. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at his numbers, when you look at the quarterback hits,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the pressures, true media at him

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<v Speaker 2>down for sixty three pressures last season, this guy eats

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<v Speaker 2>away at a quarterback's internal clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think also on the other side of this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>that's valuable work for Rashid Walker, that's valuable work for

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<v Speaker 2>Andre Dillard, and when he gets back out through, that's

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<v Speaker 2>valuable work for Zach Tom because that's about as good

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<v Speaker 2>of a defensive end as you're going to see in

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<v Speaker 2>this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I liked what you said about DeVante Wyatt too,

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<v Speaker 1>because it looks to me and again this is just

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<v Speaker 1>a few practices in and whatnot, and you know why,

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<v Speaker 1>it is nowhere close to you know, his ceiling and

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<v Speaker 1>the player that the Packers hope he's going to become.

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<v Speaker 1>But he looks like he is sort of back in

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<v Speaker 1>a system or responsibility, a mode being asked to do

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<v Speaker 1>things like he was asked to at Georgia instead of

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<v Speaker 1>like constantly feeling like he's making this adjustment to doing

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<v Speaker 1>something new. There's a not just because it's now his

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<v Speaker 1>third year in the league, there's a comfort level that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be emerging with DeVante Wyatt that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to serve this Packers defensive front very well

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<v Speaker 1>as we move into twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>And we touched on briefly on Tuesday, but the extension

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<v Speaker 2>with Kenny Clark. Yes, Kenny is an exceptional football player,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a three time Pro Bowler and he's done

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<v Speaker 2>so much on the field. But I was talking with

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<v Speaker 2>Wyatt about him at his locker on Wednesday, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could just see how excited he was to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to work with him, to play with him,

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<v Speaker 2>because he feels like the growth that he'd made last

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<v Speaker 2>year and certainly You give credit to Jerry Montgomery for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that, but a lot of it was

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<v Speaker 2>going back to Kenny Clark and asking him about the scheme,

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<v Speaker 2>asking him about his responsibilities. Those two guys in more

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<v Speaker 2>of that read and react front combined for thirteen sacks

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<v Speaker 2>last season. Again, you don't want to set expectations too high.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to go out there and play the games.

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<v Speaker 2>But when both of these guys are being able to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of pin their ears back a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>and push those guards and those centers back where you

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<v Speaker 2>just wonder what the possibilities are for both of them. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always going to be a counter to that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be things they're going to have to take into,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, make an adjustments with. But DeVante Wyatt was

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<v Speaker 2>brought here because of what he did, largely that final

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<v Speaker 2>season at Georgia, and it took him a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years to build up to that. I think where we're

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<v Speaker 2>at right now with him going into year three, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very similar pattern of his growth and maybe seeing

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<v Speaker 2>if he can take that thing to the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, him and Kenny Clark together here for the

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<v Speaker 2>foreseeable future, I think that's a really formidable duo to

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<v Speaker 2>round out obviously the rest of that deep rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was what I was going to get

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<v Speaker 1>at too. The Packers feel good about what they have

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<v Speaker 1>depth wise. When you look at a guy like TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Slayton now in his fourth year in the league as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a run stopper, a guy that can eat

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<v Speaker 1>up blockers, and you know is going to try this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get up the field, you know, more attacking mode.

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<v Speaker 1>On the defensive front, He's been a really really solid

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<v Speaker 1>run defender. You don't expect that to change. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the past rush You've got these two second year guys

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<v Speaker 1>and Carl Brooks and Colby Wooden who can also rotate

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<v Speaker 1>in you know the I mean, I've been really impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with Brooks. Certainly, he had a really really strong rookie season.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought as a six round pick out of Bowling Green,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming out of a place like Bowling Green,

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<v Speaker 1>you're making a bigger jump to the NFL than that

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the competition and whatnot. Then the guys

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<v Speaker 1>you know who are coming from those Power five conferences.

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<v Speaker 1>But Carl Brooks looked like he belonged very very early

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<v Speaker 1>on his rookie year and I think he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys that the year two jump is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be noticeable and it's going to make a difference for

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<v Speaker 1>this Packers front.

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<v Speaker 2>We always hear Brian Goodokuntz and these gms and these

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<v Speaker 2>scouts talk about how when you have a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't maybe face the top caliber competition week in and

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<v Speaker 2>week out, you want to see them dominate at that level.

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<v Speaker 2>What stands out to me in particular with Carl it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even just necessarily the production, it's the swagger with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He played at Bowling Green, he had some big game

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<v Speaker 2>performances in non conference action, but it's and he got

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<v Speaker 2>into this stage where it all just seems like football

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<v Speaker 2>for him, Like there's nothing there that makes you think that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a really good MAC player. Well we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens the NFL. Now. Man, if you strip away

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<v Speaker 2>the college from the bio, I think you think this

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<v Speaker 2>kid played at any you know, major power five conference

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<v Speaker 2>in this in the country. Yeah. Uh. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>other give credit to Colby Wooden two because again and

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<v Speaker 2>he's you know, it's tough until these pads come on,

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<v Speaker 2>but the offseason program he put on more weight to me,

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<v Speaker 2>looked more like a defensive lineman last year. Last year,

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<v Speaker 2>standing next to Lucas Fanis, they almost both looked like

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<v Speaker 2>edge rushers. This is a guy that has fluctuated in

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<v Speaker 2>his weight a little bit, but now he's back more

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<v Speaker 2>in that two eighty five to ninety range, and it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like that made a difference for him as well.

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<v Speaker 2>In the offseason. I was in the locker room on

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday and Jonathan Ford was walking through the seventh rounder

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<v Speaker 2>from two years ago. Just a massive human being as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers and Matt Lafleur touched that they're as deep

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<v Speaker 2>as they've probably ever been, at least in this era

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<v Speaker 2>of defensive line play, and especially when you factor in

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<v Speaker 2>the edge rushers and the different combinations they can run.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many different avenues for this defensive front

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<v Speaker 2>to succeed. You have to do it, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>execute it. Words can only do so much, but my goodness, Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's that's a group right there that definitely

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<v Speaker 2>could push the pace. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we started this discussion talking about Rashaun Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and we haven't really talked too much about Preston Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and Lucas Fan x Van s and and In Kings Leannigbari.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll just close with this that taking away the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive ends and the edge rushers, the interior defensive linemen,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackles, whatever you want to call them, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is as strong and deep a group as I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in Green Bay that I can recall in quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time. Whether you're talking four three or three four base,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't matter those into the interior defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>That group they have right now, I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>really impressive. And uh and if you're you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna want to take Kenny Clark off the field,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna want to get DeVante Wyat, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>many snaps as he can handle in a lot of respects.

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<v Speaker 1>But that being said, when you have these other guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the interior where the where the game can be

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<v Speaker 1>so physical and so exhausting, and when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>have those opportunities to rotate guys in and not take

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<v Speaker 1>such a you know, such a significant step back, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that really bodes well for these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And it helps Kenny too, because that has been for

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<v Speaker 2>eight years and definitely six the cat and most game

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<v Speaker 2>of figuring out when to utilize him. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's been unfair sometimes you know that he either

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<v Speaker 2>the gas tank is a little bit more empty on

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<v Speaker 2>third downs or he just doesn't get as many those

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities because he's been consistently the Packers' best run defending

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<v Speaker 2>defense attack. I mean, you see the statistics, Mike. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe I didn't come up with this paperwork coming into

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, but it was somewhere around I think point

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<v Speaker 2>eight or one yard per carry fewer when Kenny was

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<v Speaker 2>on the field against the run last season.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been such a lynchpin there. So Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>a TJL Lighton emerges as a guy that can be

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<v Speaker 2>or your nose tackle in those situations, or your your

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<v Speaker 2>one tech that can handle you know, those type of

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<v Speaker 2>double teams, if you can have a guy like Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks help on on third downs, it just makes Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>Clark that much more dangerous. And that's the balance that

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay has been trying to strike for several years now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. The other thing, I will say, shifting gears a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit that has really jumped out to me in

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<v Speaker 1>these first three practices, is the competition going on at safety?

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about it was going to be a big

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<v Speaker 1>story from the beginning. Who's the guy who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be lining up next to Xavier McKinney, lining up alongside

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<v Speaker 1>McKinny when the Packers are playing the Eagles in Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>in Week one and there's a steady rotation going on

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<v Speaker 1>right now between with Javon Bullard, with Evan Williams, Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson Junior is getting himself in the mix. And now

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<v Speaker 1>these last two practices on Tuesday and Wednesday, Evan Williams

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<v Speaker 1>got an interception in each practice. Anthony Johnson Junior got

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<v Speaker 1>an interception in each practice. Xavier McKinney is the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's the new he's the new guy. But yet

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<v Speaker 1>he's clearly the leader of that room and the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of that bunch, and those guys are are are following him,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly with all the knowledge and everything that he's able

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<v Speaker 1>to share. But man, this safety competition, this could end up,

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<v Speaker 1>this could end up going all the way through the

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<v Speaker 1>month of August before we know who the starter action is. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot, Matt Lafleur said it could go into September. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, there's a possibility that multiple these

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<v Speaker 2>guys could be playing back there, especially with the slot

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<v Speaker 2>versatility of a guy like Bullard or even some of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that Evan Williams has done in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not just about Okay, who lines up again,

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<v Speaker 2>Savor m next to Zavier McKinney. It's about, hey, how

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<v Speaker 2>can these defensive backs help us in our sub packages?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think with Bullard and Williams, what you like

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<v Speaker 2>the most about those two together is they offer such

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<v Speaker 2>different ways of sort of succeeding at the safety position.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've said it numerous times now. I watch

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<v Speaker 2>Williams out there here, minds me a lot of Micah Hyde,

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<v Speaker 2>not just his build, not just the fact he's wearing

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three, but just an extremely intelligent player that just

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<v Speaker 2>seems to know where the ball is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>and how he needs to get there. In Bullard, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy that, like kway Walker, like Devonte Wyatt,

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<v Speaker 2>like Eric Stokes, played football at the highest level at Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>won two national championships, played two different positions, started at

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<v Speaker 2>two different positions. And so while these guys are rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>These are guys that played a lot of football next

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<v Speaker 2>to Xavier McKinney, and then McKinney again is sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that is going to bring all of this together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that story. It was the biggest offseason play

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<v Speaker 2>that the Packers made in the practices that were open

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<v Speaker 2>to the media. Xavier McKinney's out there for the first step,

0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.800
<v Speaker 2>he goes trotting off because you're watching your veteran work.

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<v Speaker 2>Bo Melton goes for a seventy five yard touchdown the

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<v Speaker 2>exact play that McKinney leaves the field. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>is the and asking Eric Stokes about this on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the guy that is making sure that people

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<v Speaker 2>are where they're supposed to be. He's the guy that's

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<v Speaker 2>communicating the assignments on the back end in his vocal.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the Green Bay Packers went into this offseason,

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything more than offense, defense or special teams,

0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.680
<v Speaker 2>they knew they had to make repairs at safety. They've

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<v Speaker 2>done that and now we have to see how it

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<v Speaker 2>all looks come Brazil. But they're in a much better

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<v Speaker 2>spot right now than if you're just wondering, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's throw on somebody else and see what happens. Now

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<v Speaker 2>all these guys are earning their playing time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's been most impressive about the two rookies

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<v Speaker 1>Javon Bullard, second round pick out of Georgia Evan Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick out of Oregon. I think what's been

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<v Speaker 1>most impressive is that, you know, while they've been rotating

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<v Speaker 1>and each getting there, getting their cracks with the ones,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they're in the box, sometimes they're playing deep.

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<v Speaker 1>And Xavier McKinney is challenging himself in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, some plays he's deep, some plays he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, moves up into the box depending on the call,

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<v Speaker 1>the personnelity offense. But these two rookie draft picks, they've

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<v Speaker 1>really picked up the system. You're not seeing, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of confusion out there. You're not seeing

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<v Speaker 1>missed assignments, and you know, guys immediately talking to each

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<v Speaker 1>other after the play because you know this or that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was interesting. It's been interesting over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of time talking to both of them about about picking

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<v Speaker 1>things up. Williams, I remember telling me back during the

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<v Speaker 1>rookie mini camp when I asked him about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the playbook and trying to get acclimated to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL defense, and he says, well, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>played for you know, four different defensive coordinators and you

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<v Speaker 1>know my time at Fresno State and then at Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's used to learning a new system. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>his own process. He knows he's been through this before.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you ask Javon Bullard kind of the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>about how he's picking things up, and his answer, he's

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<v Speaker 1>picking it up much, you know, in the same fashion

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<v Speaker 1>with the same speed that Williams is, but his answer

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<v Speaker 1>is completely different. His answer is, Jeff Hafley's a dB guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So was Kirby Smart at Georgia. They build their defenses

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<v Speaker 1>with the know in some senses, with the DBS in

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<v Speaker 1>mind in terms of how you process things. And he

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<v Speaker 1>said it, the similarities in that regard have made it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty easy for him to make this transition to Halfley's defense,

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<v Speaker 1>because it really is not about the concepts, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>the It's just about the terminology. It's what do you

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<v Speaker 1>call something? And he has to forget the terminology from

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<v Speaker 1>Kirby Smart's defense at Georgia and just apply Halflee's terminology

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<v Speaker 1>here in Green Bay. My point is both of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys have picked things up pretty quickly, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you get reps with the ones in training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>is because the coaches trust that you know the calls

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<v Speaker 1>and you know the playbook, and now it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of seeing who perform.

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<v Speaker 2>And the motivation that that group feels. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 2>listen to why it talk about it. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>know it's Green Bay, Wisconsin, they know it's quarterback capital

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States almost with the way the developed

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.520
<v Speaker 2>guys here in the last thirty years. But defensively, they

0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like they can be a team that is one

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<v Speaker 2>that sets the tone for their football team and they're

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<v Speaker 2>chasing that right now. And dude, come Week one, come

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<v Speaker 2>that game against the Eagles, there's going to be eleven

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<v Speaker 2>defenders on the field. There's going to be probably be four, five,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe six, probably four or five defensive backs. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, it's about what you have,

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<v Speaker 2>how that group is pushing each other, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>the injuries come, when the adversity comes, who can you

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<v Speaker 2>turn to. And you look at last season, especially at safety,

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<v Speaker 2>it got a little precarious at times. Again, we're one

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<v Speaker 2>week into this practice of training camp and a few

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<v Speaker 2>months into what this twenty twenty four season is going

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<v Speaker 2>to look like. But I think the Green Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have to feel good about where they're sitting right now,

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<v Speaker 2>considering all the investment they've made into that position.

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on because actually shortly before we came in

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<v Speaker 1>here and turn the cameras and the microphones on, you

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<v Speaker 1>posted a story on Packers dot Com with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Dillon. Now on the health end of things. Marshawn Lloyd,

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<v Speaker 1>the third round draft pick at running back, He has

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<v Speaker 1>not practiced yet because of a hip injury. We did

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<v Speaker 1>see Jaden Reed, the second year receiver, back on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice field from his toe injury. Limited at least initially,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's back and there aren't a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 1>major concerns with regard to that toe. But getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to running back, aj Dillon went about this past off

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<v Speaker 1>season not just in terms of, you know, signing a

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>contract to come back to Green Bay after his rookie

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 1>deal expired and all that. That was all part of

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 1>his process, but he went about this off season in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of in terms of his body and his preparation

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<v Speaker 1>in a very different way. And you got some of

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<v Speaker 1>the details on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was really interesting to listen to ag

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, listen to where he last year

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<v Speaker 2>was a problem for him, Like he went through the

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<v Speaker 2>neck injury, he broke the thumb, not the type of

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<v Speaker 2>season you want heading into unrestricted free agency and listening

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<v Speaker 2>to what his thoughts were and how he approached it

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<v Speaker 2>and the vision he had for what he wanted twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to be. Again, this is a guy that already

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<v Speaker 2>kept himself in really good shape. He was at two

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<v Speaker 2>fifty at eight nine percent body fat, but he thought

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<v Speaker 2>and He challenged himself, how can I get better? How

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<v Speaker 2>can I make sure that when I look back on

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<v Speaker 2>this thing ten years from now, I know, Okay, whatever happens,

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<v Speaker 2>I gave it my best shot. He cut down on

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<v Speaker 2>the carbs, He intook more grass fed beef. He traded

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<v Speaker 2>in all the soda for water. He started running the

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<v Speaker 2>steps with a weight vest like Jared Bush used to

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<v Speaker 2>do out in the stadium. Boulder, You're at lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 2>He got a whoop band that showed him how much

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<v Speaker 2>he's sleeping, what his respiratory rate was, all the different

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<v Speaker 2>things that he's doing. And when he came back to

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 2>the Packers during negotiations in March, when he went back

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<v Speaker 2>and visited a couple other teams and talked to some

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<v Speaker 2>other teams, he said, I want to play at a

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<v Speaker 2>Pro Bowl caliber level in twenty twenty four. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>saying he's going to make the Pro Bowl. He just said,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever role you want me in, if you want me

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<v Speaker 2>as a running back, if you want me as a

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<v Speaker 2>special teams player, whatever you want me to do, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to give it everything I had. The phrase he

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<v Speaker 2>kept saying over and over again was two yards two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand yards, two million yards, whatever it is that it

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<v Speaker 2>ends up being, he's comfortable with that. So with all

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<v Speaker 2>the work he did physically, as he said, what he

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<v Speaker 2>feels like is he actually chased down the part of

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<v Speaker 2>the game he was trying to master mentally, which was

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<v Speaker 2>taking out the thought process into anything, taking out the worry,

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<v Speaker 2>taking out the pressure. He knows there's pressure. The football

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<v Speaker 2>is pressure. Marshawn Lloyd got drafted, Manuel Wilson is there

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<v Speaker 2>packers have they brought in Josh Jacobs Like it is

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<v Speaker 2>a business where you can never get complacent, But in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of executing what his assignment is, aj Dylon feels

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<v Speaker 2>more at peace right now than he's ever felt in

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<v Speaker 2>his NFL career. In in addition to that, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>accomplished a lot off the field. Him and his wife Gabrielle,

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<v Speaker 2>they started their own foundation, the Dylan Family Foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Started their own family, started their.

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<v Speaker 2>Own family, which is Ray A year ago. Two Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's he said, it's been only five years. But the

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<v Speaker 2>growth that he's made as a man, he hopes to

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<v Speaker 2>now channel that into being growth as a player. And

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<v Speaker 2>talking with Josh Jacobs a little bit about it too,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, this is a guy that, even

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<v Speaker 2>for me, a guy that has been a Russian champion,

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<v Speaker 2>a two time All Pro, how helpful AJ has been

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<v Speaker 2>in getting him acclimated to Green Bay. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of levels to this. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, yeah, again, as Matt Lafleur said at the

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<v Speaker 2>podium earlier this week, the best he's ever looked, hands down,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly mentally, I think he's as clear as he's

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<v Speaker 2>ever been.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because you know, you and I get all

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<v Speaker 1>the questions in insider inbox, and one that's been very

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<v Speaker 1>frequent throughout the spring and early summer since the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>drafted Marshawn Lloyd, which is after Josh Jacobs was signed.

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<v Speaker 1>After AJ Dillon re signed with that special fifth year deal,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fans were kind of trying to write

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<v Speaker 1>off AJ Dillon in a sense and just say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like he's going to be the odd man out,

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<v Speaker 1>like is he going to be the is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the surprise veteran cut that everybody seems to

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to try to pinpoint like well in advance, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how this thing is going to shake out,

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<v Speaker 1>But what I tried to emphasize in answering those questions,

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<v Speaker 1>is that, look, you have to look at this from

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<v Speaker 1>a very realistic perspective. Josh Jacobs is new to Green Bay.

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Marshaon Lloyd is new to Green Bay and this offense.

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Wilson was an undrafted rookie last year who missed

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of time. AJ Dillon is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>has been in this offense for multiple years. He has

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<v Speaker 1>done the two minute stuff. He's done, He's done the

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<v Speaker 1>hurry up stuff. He he knows all of the pass

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<v Speaker 1>protection calls to protect your franchise back there. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Dillon is only going to play ten to fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>snaps a game, and I have no idea, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>pulling a number out of a hat, but even if

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Dillon might only be playing ten to fifteen snaps

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<v Speaker 1>a game, I think he can be a really, really

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<v Speaker 1>valuable piece to what's going on here. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that can be dismissed just because there are some

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<v Speaker 1>younger guys who are showing a lot of promise. And

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<v Speaker 1>certainly you may have both both I'm talking about Lloyd

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<v Speaker 1>and Wilson may have futures in Green Bay. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four, there's a lot of value in

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<v Speaker 1>having AJ Dillon not only in that running back room,

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<v Speaker 1>but on that field.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and just for anybody out there that wants to

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<v Speaker 2>have this conversation with their friends so you don't sound stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>AJ Dillon's the only one that play special teams right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of this group with Patrick Taylor now in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>AJ Dillon is the guy that it works on the

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<v Speaker 2>punt coverage unit, the guy that is back as one

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<v Speaker 2>of the guys while he was, however it looks now

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<v Speaker 2>he was historically a guy that could play in the

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<v Speaker 2>posse back on kickoff returns, as a blocker, as a

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<v Speaker 2>blocker right now, just where it's at. I mean, Emmanuel

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson did, I don't think played special teams last year

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<v Speaker 2>in a regular season game. I could be wrong on that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretty sure I'm right. Marshawn Lloyd is now

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<v Speaker 2>coming into this thing for the first time, has been

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<v Speaker 2>some things have been flowing about maybe him helping out

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<v Speaker 2>kickoff returns. But AJ Dillon is a is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that can be a four core player for you in

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<v Speaker 2>that phase two, just the way he's built at two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty five pounds. I mean, AJ Dillon brings

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to this football team, and I understand the

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<v Speaker 2>pressures that go along with playing a skill position and

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<v Speaker 2>how everybody looks at the numbers and they look at

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<v Speaker 2>the touches and they look at the touchdowns and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they equate to what is a good football player.

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<v Speaker 2>But as Matt Lafleur said, I remember sitting at the

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<v Speaker 2>table with him in Orlando weeks after he was signed

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<v Speaker 2>that AJ was re signed, and he made sure to

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<v Speaker 2>mention that was a pivotal signing for them. He came

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<v Speaker 2>back on a very unique contract, which I think was

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat spurred on by his desire to be here in

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay, to stay in this community. But all that

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<v Speaker 2>being said, Uh, this is a guy that I think,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, you want to have

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<v Speaker 2>on your roster, and you want to have him for

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<v Speaker 2>a full season. And if he can truly be able

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<v Speaker 2>to put the injury stuff behind him from last year,

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<v Speaker 2>if he can get the body thing tuned in the

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<v Speaker 2>weight it peers that he has. Yeah, there's still a

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<v Speaker 2>lot out there for him too. At twenty six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you. Well, with that, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>When we're back for our next show early next week,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have another three practices in the books because the

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>team is going to practice Friday, Saturday, Sunday before the

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<v Speaker 1>next off day from the field on Monday, So we

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<v Speaker 1>will look forward to that and discuss things at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>But for Wes, I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in. Everybody.

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