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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to our two of The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm Buck with me here,

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Speaker 1: my may man. Clay actually gonna be joining me in

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Speaker 1: NYC shortly, which is going to be a bit of

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Speaker 1: a of a code mask tour COVID culture shock. Everywhere

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Speaker 1: Clay goes, the masks are donned. It's like they're protecting

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Speaker 1: themselves from the spread of Clay. I'm a mask super spreader.

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Speaker 1: I went to La mask Bandaid Land in Vegas, mask Mandate,

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Speaker 1: about to go to New York. What's the latest on

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Speaker 1: the mask mandaid New York City? Masked mandated NYC. However,

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Speaker 1: they're pushing vaccines and we'll get into that in a second,

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Speaker 1: trying to use the private sector to backdoor it. Although

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Speaker 1: when Clay Lance here, I worry that they'll be an

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Speaker 1: emergency Mayor de Blasio meeting where he'll say we have

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Speaker 1: to wear my masks. So we'll see how that actually

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Speaker 1: goes and shakes out here. But we will be unmasked

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Speaker 1: bandits together here in NYC. Also, want to tell you

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Speaker 1: clay on Buck phone. You know, maybe we'll even get

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Speaker 1: like a Clay and Buck signal that people can set

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Speaker 1: up in the sky have two guys with great hair.

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Speaker 1: That's that would be a fantastic signal that will also

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Speaker 1: probably racist and sexist. Well, the Bat signal would be

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Speaker 1: racist in sexist today. I mean we would be approprimdian

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Speaker 1: to show up to prepare to protect them the world.

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Speaker 1: A white man to show up to protect the world.

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Speaker 1: That's sexist and racist to even think about it. So

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Speaker 1: another thing that we have to remind everybody of day

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Speaker 1: in and day out here is that while they've pretended,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we've been talking about masks in the

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Speaker 1: asked to mask up over the weekend. You know, clays

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Speaker 1: can you know, have your your three martinis and your

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Speaker 1: two cigarettes in each hand, and you know, eating quarter

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Speaker 1: pounders with cheese at four am while you gamble a

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Speaker 1: your mortgage payment. But you're not going to be breathed

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Speaker 1: in any of that nasty COVID air. But the vaccine

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Speaker 1: push is still very much underway here. And Governor Cuomo

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Speaker 1: of New York, but Clay the worst governor for the pandemic?

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Speaker 1: Is that fair? Or do you think Newsom who gets

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Speaker 1: not even just the pandemic. So not just the worst

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Speaker 1: is bold talk, certainly the twenty first century. That's bold talk,

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Speaker 1: mister Travis. But I will co sign here. He is

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Speaker 1: asking them and suggesting to them go to vaccine only admission,

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Speaker 1: And so this is a default state action that is

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Speaker 1: the vaccine. And again it's a backdoor attempt at a mandate,

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Speaker 1: the whole budget process is playing out right now where

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Speaker 1: the public health officials. Well, then, who's really responsible for

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Speaker 1: Of course, is it Governor Cuomo's fault now when you

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Speaker 1: if these vaccine cards, if you look at them, are

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Speaker 1: incredibly high tech. And anybody who's ever been on a

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Speaker 1: Who is going to be checking vaccine cards at the

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Speaker 1: That seems to me to be a big mess. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you're gonna have public health experts reviewing vaccine cards.

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna be getting printed, like like you know,

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Speaker 1: it's forty percent unvaccinated. For teachers, I mean, okay, sixty

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Speaker 1: mandating that kids wear masks, but they're not willing to

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Speaker 1: mean buck. What it does is it speaks to how

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Speaker 1: were going to die if they actually taught. Because if

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Speaker 1: gone and gotten the vaccine immediately, right. I think what

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Speaker 1: we should mention, by the way, that we've reached seventy

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Speaker 1: percent of adults who have received at least their first vaccine,

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Speaker 1: so we know those numbers. We don't have the numbers

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Speaker 1: crazy that teachers would be statistically less likely than adults

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Speaker 1: in New York City too. Who I can tell you

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Speaker 1: there's a ninety percent chance you're a hardcore Democrat Biden

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Speaker 1: to manage to get get made whole here? But they

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Speaker 1: said three billion of the forty seven billion, So that

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Speaker 1: that's one thought that I have because they're remarkably slow

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Speaker 1: with this, and and just the notion that you can

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Speaker 1: decide that in a health emergency like this that lasts

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Speaker 1: for months and months, you can just take people. What

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Speaker 1: they're doing is taking property. I mean, this is yes,

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Speaker 1: you are saying to people, well, we would prefer if

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Speaker 1: people didn't have to because, by the way, what is

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Speaker 1: exactly the epidemiological basis for you can't not be in

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Speaker 1: your home? You know what I'm saying like, you know,

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Speaker 1: or rather you know, you have to stay where you are.

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Speaker 1: People are going to work, people are frontline workers people,

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Speaker 1: you know. I understand this is like, it's appealing. This

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Speaker 1: notion of the eviction moratorium was like, oh, no one

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Speaker 1: can be kicked out of their homes. Okay, Well then

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Speaker 1: why should people ever be kicked out of their homes? Clay,

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Speaker 1: It's a mean thing to do. It's an interesting perspective,

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Speaker 1: right because initially the government mandated lockdowns, which meant that

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Speaker 1: many people could not work. But now we've reached the

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Speaker 1: point in twenty twenty one when they are over nine

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Speaker 1: million open jobs for most of American history, I believe

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Speaker 1: this is the highest amount of open jobs. And there's

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Speaker 1: a ton of people out there listening to us right

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Speaker 1: now nodding. If you drive around in any city right now,

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Speaker 1: there are big placards up begging people to go to work.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's hard to feel bad for someone.

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Speaker 1: I understand it. Initially, when we made the disastrous decision

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Speaker 1: to ever put in place lockdowns, if you're not allowing

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Speaker 1: people to work for a two week process, remember fifteen

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Speaker 1: days to slow the spread. That's been eighteen months and

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Speaker 1: so at some point you have to end this because

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Speaker 1: it's your point. Buck. If you've ever owned a property

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Speaker 1: and had to go through the eviction process, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: time consuming in many cities, and it's almost become impossible

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Speaker 1: over the past a year and a half. And there

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Speaker 1: are stories of people who have run through their entire

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Speaker 1: life savings because they poured it into a property that

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Speaker 1: they were then renting out and trying to build financial stability.

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Speaker 1: But during the pandemic, they had squatters or rather as

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Speaker 1: people were, that were refusing to pay them any rent,

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Speaker 1: and because of particularly in California New York, incredibly favorable laws,

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Speaker 1: there was very little recourse that they had to deal with.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's also at this level of you you

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Speaker 1: see PPP in these different government programs. The government's not

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Speaker 1: even very good at shoveling money out of helicopters to people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the government can't even get this particularly right,

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Speaker 1: because if they could, it would have been well if

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Speaker 1: you lost your job, right, you were supposed to have

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Speaker 1: people that were able to get paid by their employer

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Speaker 1: so they would stay on payroll. But we still had

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Speaker 1: millions of job losses. Businesses shutdown, closed down, and I

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Speaker 1: also was opposed to shutting down any businesses in the

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Speaker 1: first place. So that's a whole other thing, the whole

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Speaker 1: lockdowns in generals, because anyone who says otherwise, I would say,

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Speaker 1: we never actually locked down. We did partial lockdowns of

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Speaker 1: some businesses at sometimes in some places while a lot

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Speaker 1: of people were just continuing on with their lives. But

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Speaker 1: you know, Clay's there's an addiction here at a broader level,

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Speaker 1: an addiction to rule by emergency that the Democrats, if

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Speaker 1: you're an authoritarian, this is amazing to you because you

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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about is it constitutional? Am I

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Speaker 1: respecting private property or the rule of law? It's an emergency.

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Speaker 1: We have to do this, just like they kind of

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Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty with the election laws. That a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of states kind of reminds me of that.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, Buck, there's an argument out there, and

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Speaker 1: some people really believe this, that the delta variant threat

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Speaker 1: is being exaggerated because it provides cover to infrastructure and

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Speaker 1: the budget bill. As this process is playing out, what's

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Speaker 1: back on the front pages and at all the discussion COVID,

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Speaker 1: what's not being discussed. The biggest expansion potentially in taxes

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Speaker 1: in American history. It's all sliding right under the radar.

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Speaker 1: You might need to save money, Buck, as you know,

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Speaker 1: and the best way to save money for most people

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Speaker 1: out there is by refining your home. Listen to me

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Speaker 1: carefully here. Everybody is looking at that budget for the fall.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're starting to look at next year. Maybe you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about Christmas presents. Maybe you're thinking about vacation. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you've spent more on summer vacation than you thought because

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Speaker 1: you wanted to make up for twenty twenty. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: got tuition payments, whatever you have, you could save up

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Speaker 1: to twelve thousand dollars a year or more just by

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Speaker 1: calling American Financing right now. They can put your mortgage,

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Speaker 1: whether you're getting a new one or refining in perfect shape,

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Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars a year or more. I want you

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Speaker 1: to call this number right now, eight hundred seven seven

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Speaker 1: seven eighty one oh nine. Get your phones. Don't wait

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Speaker 1: an even longer eight hundred seven seven seven eighty one

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Speaker 1: oh nine. It's nonsense not to call right now, right

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Speaker 1: Bucks X than eight hundred and seven seven seven eighty

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Speaker 1: one on nine, As Clay said, remember American Financing or

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Speaker 1: little as ten minutes to get started, and you could

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Speaker 1: postpone two mortgage payments. But on top of that, just

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Speaker 1: the savings, as Clay said, I mean that credit card

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Speaker 1: debt you got five six seven grand maybe gone in

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Speaker 1: less than a year, just based on the savings from

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Speaker 1: going with American Financing on your home loan. Visit American

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Speaker 1: MLS one eight, two, three, three, four MLS, Consumer Access

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Speaker 1: dot org. The delta variant is more contagious, threatening to

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Speaker 1: spread faster among the half of the country that remains unvaccinated.

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Speaker 1: Needlessly evicting families would risk escalating our public health crisis.

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Speaker 1: The CDs understood that reality when it issued an eviction

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Speaker 1: moratorium in September. The agency was clear, and I want

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Speaker 1: to quote the language they used, housing stability helps protect health.

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Speaker 1: It's right. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton show. There you had Elizabeth Warren saying that how

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Speaker 1: sunk stability protects health if that's true, Clay, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and let's just assume for a second that is true.

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Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't it be nice if we could all

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Speaker 1: just live in a place where everyone gets to live

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Speaker 1: in their house and not pay any rent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that would make a lot of people happy. That would

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Speaker 1: be really nice. I mean, they tried something sort of

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Speaker 1: like that in the Soviet Union. I know that's not

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Speaker 1: what we're doing here, but the principle starts to get

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting, because, yeah, of course you could make this

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Speaker 1: assumption that people should be able to live rent free indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: You know why not, Well, there are reasons. In fact,

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Speaker 1: In fact, the people who live rent free or pay

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Speaker 1: the least rent often live in the most crime ridden

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Speaker 1: neighborhoods in America, of course, right, But the logical extension

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Speaker 1: of many of these democratic policies is to eliminate capitalism,

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Speaker 1: which is what allows America to thrive, and replace it,

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Speaker 1: as you said, with communism. There's a lot of those

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Speaker 1: nineteen forties and fifties cinder block buildings where people were

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Speaker 1: able to live in Russia. Now, the elevators didn't work,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have any heat or air in those buildings,

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Speaker 1: and eventually everybody fled outside as capitalism came in some

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Speaker 1: way to Russia. It fails, right, Government mandated programs overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: fail over time because allocating resources to government as opposed

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Speaker 1: to the free market is a failure almost all the time,

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Speaker 1: because government doesn't move fast enough, and because it disincentivizes.

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Speaker 1: As we're seeing right now with the tax increases, is

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden's trying to rush through undercover much of

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Speaker 1: the way of darkness. By the way, the biggest tax

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Speaker 1: increases ever, it's all madness. Yeah. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: why central planning, which is the root fallacy of socialism

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Speaker 1: and communism, that you're gonna have a bunch of experts

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Speaker 1: who make the decisions for everyone everywhere that will be

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Speaker 1: in the best interests of those individuals. This plays out

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Speaker 1: in all aspects of society and ways where we see

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Speaker 1: the results are bad, but there's emotional appeal here. There's

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Speaker 1: a sense of, oh, but what are we going to do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's congress Congresswoman Corey Bush who's out there saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have millions on the street unless

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Speaker 1: you keep this eviction band going. So if we need

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Speaker 1: to streamline the procedure, how this is supposed to happen,

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Speaker 1: and just say, just put it into the text that

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Speaker 1: we need to make it the money should go directly

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Speaker 1: to landlords. If that's what needs to happen, Let's do

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Speaker 1: something I think that we are. We should be thoughtful

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Speaker 1: enough to try to figure this thing out so that

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Speaker 1: anywhere from seven million million people to eleven million people

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Speaker 1: don't end up on the street, because look, we haven't

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Speaker 1: fixed the housing crisis that we already have. How do

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Speaker 1: we put more people on the street and then in

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Speaker 1: the in a deadly global pandemic that is surging. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the surging thing enough, okay, were the cases

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Speaker 1: are going up, They're much lower than they were, and

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Speaker 1: debts and hospitalizations are nationwide very low, entirely manageable as

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Speaker 1: a health issue. I know we've said this play. I

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Speaker 1: just I feel like we have to just keep repeating

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Speaker 1: it because the madness is all over the place. And

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Speaker 1: then beyond it, So what exactly is supposed to happen here? Well,

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Speaker 1: what is the So the Democrats one one, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have every So then every landlord in America has to

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Speaker 1: be made whole by the government before anyone can be evicted,

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Speaker 1: how long do you think that's gonna take? Not only

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Speaker 1: that it's wildly inefficient, And I would just come back

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Speaker 1: and respond to Representative Corey Bush there by the way,

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Speaker 1: the one I think the last time we talked about

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Speaker 1: her on this show was maybe when she was denigrating America.

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Speaker 1: Didn't that happen on July fourth, where she said like

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Speaker 1: America is an awful place. I feel like we were

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Speaker 1: ripping her to shreds. She makes a living off of

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Speaker 1: taxpayers and therefore expects that taxpayers should pay for everything.

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Speaker 1: But the answer here is and I hate I hate

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Speaker 1: to be crass, I hate to be totally eminently reasonable.

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Speaker 1: People need to go get jobs and fill some of

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Speaker 1: the nine point two million open jobs right now in America.

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Speaker 1: And if you go get a job, you can afford

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Speaker 1: a place to live, because American jobs right now are

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Speaker 1: paying wildly exorbitant salaries, partly as a result of this

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden inflation environment, but there's a ton of demand

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Speaker 1: for jobs. This is the closest that the Progressive have

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Speaker 1: ever gotten to universal basic income. The pandemic with the

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Speaker 1: unemployment benefits, the eviction moratorium, they liked it. But you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Corey Bush what she said on fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: Just we'll remind everybody remember of Congress she tweeted out

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Speaker 1: when they say that the fourth of July is about

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Speaker 1: American freedom, remember this the freedom they're referring to is

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Speaker 1: for white people. And of course that was that was her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fourth of July, enjoy your enjoy your your time with

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Speaker 1: friends and family. America's a racist, horrible play. So she's

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Speaker 1: a Democrat anyway, and as you know, as a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Clay. I watched some flute ball last night.

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Speaker 1: I was very excited too, did I. So you can

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Speaker 1: talk about America winning and then America losing on the

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Speaker 1: female side of the equation with this, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? And the Olympics coming up. Yeah, there's all

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Speaker 1: sorts of stuff to dive in there. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. What a mess the US women's

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Speaker 1: team soccer has made of their American exceptionalism. We'll talk

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