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Speaker 4: Hello again and welcome to the Official Colts Podcast. On

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Speaker 4: a Thursday, it's starting to be fall around central Indiana

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Speaker 4: here in the Midwest. We got the different colors on

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Speaker 4: the trees. My yard is looking quite fallish. Casey Valier,

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Speaker 4: come on over with a rake bill if you got me.

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Speaker 5: On no, no, come to my house.

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Speaker 4: What's no, no, no no, Casey can vouch you need

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Speaker 3: And SAT's got quite the tree. See this is the thing.

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Speaker 6: So my tree, you know, they're very young. No leaves

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Speaker 4: I should say, like breaking my neck. Man, that's the

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Speaker 4: time of year we're at and we are happy that

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Speaker 4: you are here on a Thursday again. We got the

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Speaker 4: crew here, Bill Brooks, Casey Valley, I'm Matt Taylor. We

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Speaker 4: got Colts and Saints coming up as the Colts wrap

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Speaker 4: up the month of October. It's been a crazy month here.

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Speaker 4: Four of five games at home for the Colts during

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Speaker 4: this stretch, but I think four of the next five

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Speaker 6: Case, there's that German coming in and hey, I don't

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Speaker 6: know what you just said, but sure, Matt, whatever.

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Speaker 4: I said, your hair looks great. I said, what do

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Speaker 4: you like to do in your free time?

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Speaker 2: And that's a podcast with us Bill.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's also too we are five days away

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Speaker 4: from Halloween, so this is the Halloween edition of the podcast.

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Speaker 4: We're also brought to you by Win Las Vegas. So

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Speaker 4: we're talking about in the spirit of Halloween. We're talking

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Speaker 4: about the scary good for this team and also the

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Speaker 4: scary parts that are kind of still rearing their ugly

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Speaker 4: head going into week number eight for this Indianapolis Colts team.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about the defense of troubles there in the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter, not being able to get the job done

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Speaker 4: and close out that game against the Browns last Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Came out and told Jim Mersey there was there was

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Speaker 4: don't know if Jim Mersey should have been saying that,

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Speaker 4: we'll react to that. So we're also going to have

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Speaker 4: a conversation here on the podcast today with Kenny Moore

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Speaker 4: the second. There's nobody playing scarier good than Kenny Moore.

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Speaker 4: He leads the NFL among all cornerbacks and tackles and

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Speaker 4: He had a career day of many aspects last Sunday

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Speaker 2: Bill you look at it.

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Speaker 4: The Colts have the fourth most plays over twenty yards

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Speaker 2: Bill Brooks, why tell me, why?

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Speaker 6: But you mentioned too, just just being smart. The offensive

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Speaker 4: They're scoring twenty five points per game. They are the

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Speaker 4: it's crazy to think that all of those pieces of

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Speaker 7: And Shane Steichen definitely, I mean, and that's what I

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Speaker 7: He understands their strengths. You know, get Michael Putman the

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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about what's scary here elsewhere within

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Speaker 4: this offense in terms of what's making it scary. The

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor is back. This is gonna be his fourth

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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, Jonathan Taylor's been creeping up,

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Speaker 4: fifty to fifty split. Thirty five snaps for Moss, thirty

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Speaker 4: As we sit here and tape this on Thursday, Casey,

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Speaker 6: We talk about what Zach Moss has done to this point.

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Speaker 6: He's still ranks second in the NFL and rushing guards

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Speaker 2: About and he's first in yards per game.

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Speaker 6: Still, I mean, you're talking about a guy who we're saying,

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Speaker 6: all right, Jonathan Taylor's going to get an expanded role.

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Speaker 6: Zack Moss has earned that spot. So I think you're

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Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor can do. He's one of the most explosive

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Speaker 6: but just in general. So you anticipate it being more

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Speaker 6: so we're gonna start seeing a more ramp up I

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Speaker 6: think think of Taylor, but don't discount at all what

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Speaker 2: Bill.

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Speaker 7: I think he's about that close and people on the

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Speaker 7: he wasn't he didn't have any camp, he didn't play

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Speaker 5: So he's very close.

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Speaker 7: And the thing I like right now that they're noe

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Speaker 7: So that gives another dimension to this offense and for

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Taylor. Oh, he might get the ball in open field.

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Speaker 7: That's pretty scary to a defense. You get Jonathan Tail

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, sometimes sometimes football is not that hard.

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Speaker 4: Get the football in your hands of your best playmakers

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Speaker 4: some form some fashion. That's Jonathan Taylor to your point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been really impressed with the coaching staff's

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Speaker 2: Let him be the great athlete that he is.

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Speaker 4: He's got eleven catches so far in the season, and

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Speaker 2: And I love these Halloween bits that we're doing right now.

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Speaker 4: Right, what's the guy's name where they got the little

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Speaker 4: Shane Steike was doing all day long in the lab,

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Speaker 4: gearing up for these for these games on offense. All right,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about the scary bad You got to talk

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Speaker 4: about it because the Colts they did so many things well, right,

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Speaker 4: They scored a season high thirty eight points, They racked

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Speaker 2: But they still lost.

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Speaker 4: And the big reason why is, you know, Sunday's a

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Speaker 4: razor thin. When you turn the ball over four times,

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Speaker 4: the Colts have turned it over four times and back

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Speaker 4: all right, so it doesn't happen all that often. And

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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett was an absolute beast. He was a nightmare

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Speaker 4: from screen. He was all of those terrible characters all

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Speaker 4: in one. This season, the Colts are three and zero.

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Speaker 4: When they suffer zero turnovers and four losses. That's when

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Speaker 4: all the turnovers come. Twelve turnovers and four setbacks, and

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Speaker 4: those twelve turnovers have led to forty four points on

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Speaker 2: You're just not going to win when you.

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Speaker 4: Turn it over that much, Bill, How concerned are you

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Speaker 4: because that's what we said last week coming after that

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Speaker 5: I'm concerned.

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Speaker 7: I'm trying with the turnovers because I mean, as you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we know.

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Speaker 7: When we don't turn to ball over, we win, and

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Speaker 7: we do, we lose. And you have to stop turning

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Speaker 7: the ball over. And on top of that, the Browns

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Speaker 5: They got seventeen points off those turnovers, and.

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Speaker 4: They had what five scoring drives of forty yards or

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Speaker 7: It was like Christmas Day, here's a game or beat us, Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 7: And you can't do that and win football games in

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Speaker 7: to generate some more turnoffs. Yes, they got two interceptions,

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Speaker 7: the Coats got two interceptions, but you have to take

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Speaker 7: those interceptions and convert them into points, and we didn't

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Speaker 7: convert those into points. So exactly, I'm concerned about us

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Speaker 7: turning the ball over more than I am us getting turnovers.

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Speaker 7: But I would like to get turnovers. But I'm really

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Speaker 6: You know, I agree with Bill, I'm concerned, but I

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Speaker 6: do think part of it is twofold. I think to

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Speaker 6: His interception rate the Jacksonville game, you can put that,

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Speaker 4: Foot and that's what Colts fans are thinking, like, this

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Speaker 2: Of the ball.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's one of those things where I'm concerned.

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Speaker 6: But I do think that this staff can, you know,

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Speaker 3: So that's where I'm concerned.

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Speaker 6: But I do think when it comes to that standpoint,

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Speaker 6: look at what happened last week from all accounts outside

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Speaker 2: No, right, that's where it's point.

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Speaker 6: The Coult should have won that game running away. But

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Speaker 6: you look into four turnovers and that's where it is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that shows how important turnovers are, you know

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Speaker 7: And that's how powerful the turnovers are when you're talking

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Speaker 4: Another scary part was the total gut punch at the

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Speaker 4: That was the scary part is like you're thinking, all right, PJ.

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Speaker 4: But we all know that the next step for this

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Speaker 4: a gut punch. It's scary that that, you know, And

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Speaker 4: How does that happen? Because I know, when when as

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Speaker 2: Gets a takeaway, that's like a huge uplifting feeling. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 7: When you're a player out there on defense, you just

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Speaker 7: thirty only have thirty yards of score. Yeah, have to

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Speaker 3: This is what we have to make.

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Speaker 2: It truly is mindset.

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Speaker 2: It is mind That's why they call it a sudden

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Speaker 7: Right, scrambling, and you have to you have to also

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Speaker 7: say is, okay, we can't. We can't let them score

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Speaker 7: a touchdown. That's your mindset. Let's let's keep them out

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Speaker 7: worse they can get a field goal.

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Speaker 5: Then if they get a field goal, Okay.

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Speaker 7: It's not the best, but it's not the worst eiser.

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Speaker 7: So I think that has to be their mindset going

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Speaker 4: Are you are you more worried about the defense's ability

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Speaker 4: Since the start of last year, Casey, there's been four

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Speaker 6: By the way, Yeah, you know that is that is

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Speaker 6: And I don't want to discredit any of it, but

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Speaker 6: elite guys like Jalen Hurts, you can definitely put him

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Speaker 6: in that elite category, but it's Taylor Heineke, Davis Mills

440
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Speaker 6: and then PJ.

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Speaker 3: Walker.

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Speaker 6: So there is there is a little bit of concern there,

443
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Speaker 6: the sudden change thing. It's also it's a concern because

444
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Speaker 6: it's a mentality. And you talk to any of the

445
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Speaker 6: defensive players, and we talked to Kenny Moore later. I'm

446
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Speaker 6: sure he'll say the same thing, like, there's no excuses

447
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Speaker 6: in this league. It doesn't matter if you, like Bill said,

448
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Speaker 6: it don't matter where you get the ball. You have

449
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Speaker 6: to have that elite if you want to be elite.

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Speaker 6: You look at what the Browns have done throughout this season.

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Speaker 6: The offense, the Browns, it's been a struggle. They came

452
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Speaker 6: in last week minus eight in the turnover marks and.

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Speaker 2: The Saints this weekend and so but.

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Speaker 6: The Browns defense one of the best defenses, the Saints

455
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Speaker 6: one of the best because they're able to in those

456
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Speaker 6: moments still limit the damage and that so that is

457
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Speaker 6: an area that is a concern because yes, it's sudden change,

458
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Speaker 6: your put your backs are against the wall, but you

459
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Speaker 6: have to come up with a stop at the end

460
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Speaker 6: of the day. Whether it's the final two minutes and

461
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Speaker 6: you're not allowing it or it's sudden change, the defense

462
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Speaker 6: has to come up with a stop that no questions.

463
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Speaker 6: That's what it has to come down to. That's what

464
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Speaker 6: Gus Bradley and his staff is telling these guys like, Hey,

465
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Speaker 6: whether it's a good situation, bad situation, you have to

466
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Speaker 6: put your will to the point and make a stop.

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Speaker 4: Hey, real quick, I know we're going to get to

468
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Speaker 4: Kenny Moore coming up in just a second. He's playing

469
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Speaker 4: scary good. Like we talked about another thing that's a

470
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Speaker 4: little bit scary. If we can spend thirty seconds on it.

471
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Speaker 4: Juju Brints may not play coming up on Sunday, and

472
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Speaker 4: that's obviously disappointing considering the trajectory that he was on

473
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Speaker 4: and you know, being a rookie cornerback and just depth

474
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Speaker 4: is going to be tested there. How scary is that

475
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Speaker 4: for the for the secondary against the Saints offense, that

476
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Speaker 4: they can come alive at any second here?

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Speaker 6: That is scary, especially when you look at it just

478
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Speaker 6: compared to what you saw last week and the firepower

479
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Speaker 6: that the Saints offense potentially has. I know, they really

480
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 6: aren't working. It's not all working yet. Derek Carrs kind

481
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Speaker 6: of knew. He's trying to get all the kinks worked out,

482
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Speaker 6: but guys like Chris Olive, Michael Thomas, and Alvin Kamara

483
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Speaker 6: they're game breakers. So it is that is something that

484
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Speaker 6: is kind of scary, especially with the depth that you

485
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Speaker 6: already were kind of facing at corner. It's a very

486
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Speaker 6: inexperienced group, so guys like Jalen Jones are really gona

487
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Speaker 6: have to step up. Darryl Baker, I know, a mere

488
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Speaker 6: speed they just claimed last Friday, So he's trying to

489
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Speaker 6: get acclimated into this offense or this defense. But it

490
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Speaker 6: is a little scary because there are some high potent

491
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Speaker 6: offensive players on that Saints team.

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Speaker 3: So that is a little scary.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is scary, especially when you think of Michael Thomas,

494
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Speaker 7: a big receiver out there, and then Juju Brent's a

495
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Speaker 7: big defensive back. You would like to see the big

496
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Speaker 7: defensive backs of the Brents against Michael Thomas. I like

497
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Speaker 7: our chances that, don't get me wrong. Michael Thomas is

498
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Speaker 7: a oh very good receiver. He's proven that he can

499
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Speaker 7: play in his national football teame play at a high level.

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Speaker 7: So it is scary that knowing that we're gonna have

501
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Speaker 7: some young guys back there, not knowing what the defense

502
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Speaker 7: is going to do.

503
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Speaker 5: But it is scary not having Juju Brents out there.

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Speaker 4: It just puts more onus on Kenny Moore the second.

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Speaker 4: He is terrifyingly good this year. He is scary outstanding

506
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, as I said, leads all NFL

507
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Speaker 4: cornerbacks and tackles, leads all NFL corners and tackles for

508
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Speaker 4: law and sacks. He had a sack in a half

509
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Speaker 4: last Sunday against the Cleveland Browns and number twenty three

510
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Speaker 4: the longest tenured Indianapolis Cult defensive player joined us earlier

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Speaker 4: today on the.

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Speaker 2: Official Cults podcast.

513
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Speaker 4: We are in studio as promise, joined now by Colts

514
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Speaker 4: cornerback the versatile number twenty three, Kenny Moore, the second Kenny.

515
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Speaker 2: How are we doing today?

516
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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 8: Oh good, all good.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic to have you here. Speaking of being fantastic, that

519
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Speaker 4: is the perfect way to describe your season at this point.

520
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Speaker 4: You had a fantastic game on Sunday. But if you

521
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Speaker 4: look at these seven games on the year, as I said,

522
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Speaker 4: you lead the NFL, and tackles among corners, you lead

523
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Speaker 4: the NFL, and tackles for loss among cornerbacks. You had

524
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Speaker 4: a sack and a half. I'm saying, you're having a

525
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Speaker 4: great season. How do you feel like the season's going.

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Speaker 8: That's going all right.

527
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Speaker 2: You're a tough critic.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we have to be as athletes. Sure, gotta

529
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Speaker 8: be our toughest one. There's a lot of opportunities that

530
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Speaker 8: I could have did different to have a better outcome

531
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Speaker 8: of some individual performances for you know, the defense and

532
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Speaker 8: for the team. But it's all right, I mean it's

533
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Speaker 8: better than last year.

534
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, let's go there, because I mean I

535
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Speaker 4: know last year you admitted in the off season it

536
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Speaker 4: was it was a tough year for you and you

537
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Speaker 4: know you had a hard time kind of getting on

538
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Speaker 4: the same page with a new coaching staff. That that

539
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Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be the problem at all this going

540
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Speaker 4: around in year number two. Why do you think you

541
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Speaker 4: if you fit in a lot better schematically in your

542
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Speaker 4: number two and aggress Bradley.

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Speaker 8: Here, I mean you said it, I mean, the first

544
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Speaker 8: year is going to do. The first year it was,

545
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Speaker 8: you know, tough, trying to have the green light or

546
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Speaker 8: trying to do things that you know, I wanted to

547
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Speaker 8: do and things that I thought was best for not

548
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Speaker 8: only myself but for the defense. You know, you kind

549
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 8: of got to take the back seat sometimes. So it

550
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Speaker 8: was always respect on both sides, trying to trying trying

551
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Speaker 8: to find the the fine line, you know. But you know,

552
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Speaker 8: everything happened the way it happen, and you know a

553
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 8: lot of the conversations and discussions happened, you know, this

554
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Speaker 8: past offseason to be where we are right now. So collectively,

555
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Speaker 8: I think everybody's happy and everybody's in you know, the

556
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Speaker 8: the position to make right, you know, plays here and there,

557
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Speaker 8: so uh, I like where everybody's coming along collectively.

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Speaker 7: Now you talked about your first year and Gus Browley's defense.

559
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Speaker 7: You have some young guys right now. The team is

560
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Speaker 7: that fresh year and Gus Browley's defense. Last week's game

561
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Speaker 7: is a tough game for everybody. What do you, as

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Speaker 7: a veteran say to you young guys about a game

563
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Speaker 7: like last week?

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Speaker 8: Things happen, and honestly, it's just one of those things

565
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Speaker 8: where like you can only control you know what you

566
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Speaker 8: can control, and so like last week, it's a lot

567
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Speaker 8: of things that got out of our hands, and there's

568
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Speaker 8: a lot of things that we can control about last week.

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Speaker 8: But you know, we just got to keep playing and

570
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Speaker 8: keep playing hard. But I think it's, you know, still

571
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Speaker 8: early in the season, and something that we said after

572
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Speaker 8: the game that I truly believe in is being your

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Speaker 8: best in November, being your best November, and you know,

574
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Speaker 8: to end the rest of the season, you want to

575
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Speaker 8: be at your best. And you know, some teams they

576
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Speaker 8: go up, some teams go down, but you gotta find

577
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Speaker 8: that the happy medium where you're gonna play better and

578
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Speaker 8: better each each week. So that's something that I said

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Speaker 8: to you.

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Speaker 7: Now, I want to ask you about your play now,

581
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Speaker 7: you play both inside and outside.

582
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Speaker 5: You play both very well.

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Speaker 8: Glad you know that.

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Speaker 5: I know that. There's a lot of people do know

585
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Speaker 5: that because they see how you play, and I.

586
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Speaker 7: Want to know what is your approach to playing each

587
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Speaker 7: is if there's any difference, and which one do you prefer?

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Speaker 8: Oh, it's a it's a reset on each position sometimes,

589
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Speaker 8: you know, obviously you know. First and second down is

590
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Speaker 8: usually base depending on what team you play, you're playing against,

591
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Speaker 8: usually it's gonna be a rundown or big people. And

592
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Speaker 8: then third down is pretty much all the gimments and

593
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 8: all the fast people come in and a lot of

594
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Speaker 8: different moving parts is going on. You got to react

595
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Speaker 8: to jets and motions. Communication, you gotta be some and

596
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Speaker 8: that we used to say around here was accelerated vision,

597
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Speaker 8: and that's something you have to have, you know, not

598
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Speaker 8: only as a defensive back, but having that at Nickel,

599
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 8: and you gotta have that leadership at Nickel as well.

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Speaker 8: So the leadership aspect, the role aspect at corner, outside corner,

601
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Speaker 8: and then moving inside, those aspects are completely different. Because

602
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Speaker 8: I have to talk to the outside corner. I have

603
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Speaker 8: to talk to the safety pretty much every play. I'm

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Speaker 8: talking to z pretty much every player at Nickel, But

605
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Speaker 8: whenever I'm at corner, I'm not usually talking to the linebackers.

606
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Speaker 8: I'm usually just talking to Julian or Rodney Thomas. So,

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Speaker 8: which do I prefer?

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Speaker 5: You don't have to You don't have to say if

609
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Speaker 5: you don't want to.

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Speaker 8: So you can make more plays on the ball at Nickel. Schematically,

611
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Speaker 8: you're gonna be in different disguises, You're going to be

612
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Speaker 8: in different areas of the field to make a.

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Speaker 5: Play on the ball.

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Speaker 8: So I think at Nickel, whenever the offense break the huddle,

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Speaker 8: the quarterback is probably looking at the nickel. He's probably

616
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Speaker 8: he's probably looking at the linebackers, or he's looking at

617
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Speaker 8: the safety that's walking down into his coverage or so.

618
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Speaker 8: But uh, whenever I'm at whenever I'm at corner, I'm

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Speaker 8: not really seeing a quarterback that much look at me.

620
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Speaker 8: But if if he doesn't have a hit on what's

621
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Speaker 8: going on, he definitely looks at the outside corner to

622
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Speaker 8: tell okay. So I mean usually corners, they they they

623
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Speaker 8: they're in their own they're in their own space, and

624
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Speaker 8: if they're in man, they're just looking at the receiver. Yeah,

625
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Speaker 8: but me being a nickel, I get those type of

626
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Speaker 8: keys on the offense. So I understand, like if I'm

627
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Speaker 8: outside corner and we're a man, I'm trying to pretty

628
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Speaker 8: much not show that I'm a man looking at disguising.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a one on one right there.

630
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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that right there.

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Speaker 4: With that description from Kenny Moore of the second and

632
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Speaker 4: going along with that, Ron mileis your position? Coach today

633
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Speaker 4: actually said that you're so good and you're so versatile,

634
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Speaker 4: and there's been talk about, you know, the Cults being

635
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Speaker 4: banged up at the corner spot. Why not just put

636
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Speaker 4: Kenny on the outside. He said, I don't want to

637
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Speaker 4: do that because Kenny is so good playing nickel, and

638
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Speaker 4: if I take him out of that position, that takes

639
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: away our flexibility to have him do other things. Specifically,

640
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Speaker 4: come in the box at times, based on the formation

641
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 4: and depending on what the offense is doing. Sometimes you're

642
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: in the box playing the will linebacker position. And I

643
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: mean that goes right. That jives with your forty six

644
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Speaker 4: tackles on the season. What makes you such a good

645
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Speaker 4: tackling cornerback?

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Speaker 8: If you will a good tackling corner I think thats

647
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Speaker 8: just goes back to my background. Yeah, being at Lowndes

648
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Speaker 8: High and being in Valdosta, Georgia. All we did, I mean,

649
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Speaker 8: we were very very physical down there. We did a

650
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Speaker 8: lot of hitting. We were very intentional on that aspect

651
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Speaker 8: of the game. Was trying to drive out that that

652
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Speaker 8: that fear, and so driving out that fear just came

653
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Speaker 8: with the preparation of a practice. And we were hitting

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Speaker 8: a lot in practice, and so you know as a

655
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Speaker 8: young kid, I mean I'm playing my senior year high

656
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Speaker 8: score even you know in middle going over, I play ball.

657
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 8: We did a lot, and that's something that I feared.

658
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 8: I'm like, this is too physical for me. But the

659
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 8: more you do something, the better you become at it.

660
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 8: Sure if you stay intentional, if you stay resilient. So

661
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 8: I think my stature, it never really faced me of

662
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 8: how how I looked, just how I perceive like that

663
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 8: aspect of the game. My rookie year, I got stiff

664
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 8: for him by by Derrick Harriet versus Tennessee. And it's

665
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 8: one of those times where I'm like, I'm not liking

666
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 8: it out here, and I was trying to get a

667
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 8: sub but my coach, coach g. Williams. He was like,

668
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 8: not stay out there, and at that time I was like, dang,

669
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 8: it's just me and him out here, Like I gotta

670
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 8: I gotta make it next time. But it's just one

671
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 8: of those aspects of the game that you don't really

672
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 8: have to tell me twice to do.

673
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 5: It's her.

674
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's it's coming to fruition here. Along with that,

675
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: As I said, you got a sack and a half

676
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: against Cleveland the other day. That takes your toll to

677
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: nine and a half sacks since twenty eighteen. In that time,

678
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: you lead all NFL corners in sacks. All right, take

679
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: me through it. You've you've gotten picks, you've gotten pick sixes,

680
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: you've gotten tackles for loss. Where does a sack for

681
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: a cornerback? Where does that rank in the adrenaline meter?

682
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: Like jacked up? I mean, is that is that better

683
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: than a pick? No?

684
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 5: No, no, no, as.

685
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 8: It's so hard to get and everybody just can't do it.

686
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 8: Not to say that you know everybody can't do sex,

687
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 8: but I mean, you got guys out there. Not talking

688
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 8: about dbs, but you've got guys out there.

689
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: There's yeah, second.

690
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 8: Quarterback twenty times a year, and I mean that's hard

691
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 8: to do for them as well. But you just won't

692
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 8: see twenty interceptionists. You won't see that. Yeah, having an

693
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 8: interception in the game is so much. I mean, you

694
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 8: got to be in a perfect spot, perfect time. Perfect

695
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 8: I would say focus, like my drop one last week,

696
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 8: which was it could have went either way, but like

697
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 8: in the heat of the moment, I'm thinking, oh, this

698
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 8: is catch. Like like I saw the ball in the

699
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 8: I was like, all right, this is a pick. Let's

700
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 8: get ready to celebrate. And so like whenever I was

701
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 8: going to the ground, I took my right hand off

702
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 8: to brace myself, okay, and totally forgot about the ball

703
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 8: because I'm so thinking about We've been talking about celebrating

704
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 8: and separate and so it was one of those things

705
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 8: where I was like, dang, I just left myself down,

706
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 8: but I can't like I never got it.

707
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: I never got it.

708
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 8: So it's just one of those things where I just

709
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 8: got to stay in a moment and stay focused. But

710
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 8: I would say sacks will rank second because I'm thinking

711
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 8: about because I'm thinking about, you know, having a force

712
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 8: fumble or fumble recovery, and those are underneath a sack.

713
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: There you go.

714
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 8: Sack is like I can do what you do. Yeah,

715
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 8: I can do what you do, but like I can

716
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 8: do it too.

717
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: No one, No one's making a one handed grab against

718
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: Darren Waller taking off Derek Carr a couple of years ago.

719
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 8: That doesn't happen often.

720
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 7: Now, you talk about making plays and being out there

721
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: and reading your and doing things like that when you're

722
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 7: studying wide receivers and watching film. First of all, how

723
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 7: much time do you spend watching film? And second, what

724
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 7: are you looking for in the wide receivers when you

725
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 7: go out against wide receivers each week?

726
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 8: Great question, So we do. So we watch film obviously

727
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 8: in the classroom, in the meeting rooms, and we do

728
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 8: an extra meeting on Wednesdays, just trying to hit the

729
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 8: third downs. And so it's being intentional about that this year.

730
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 8: It's something that Mike Mitchell brought to the team in

731
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 8: twenty eighteen whenever he came over to the Colts. But

732
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 8: we started doing that on Wednesdays Thursdays. I hit a

733
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 8: little film on Thursdays, but it's not like a lot

734
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 8: of film Friday I would hit most of the film.

735
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 8: I'm hitting a lot of film on Fridays and Saturdays,

736
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 8: and then obviously on Sunday, I'm not looking at anything

737
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 8: on Sundays, Monday and Tuesday, I'm looking back over the game,

738
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 8: and then Tuesday I'm watching pretty much all the other

739
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 8: teams play, like guys that I like to watch play

740
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 8: or Okay, what was that score of that game? Okay,

741
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 8: let me check out that game. Let me see how

742
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 8: this game went on, even if we weren't playing these

743
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 8: two teams, or if I'm sometimes I catch two teams

744
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 8: that we're gonna play, So it's good that I'm already

745
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 8: watching this because we're gonna play them at some point.

746
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 8: Right whenever I do watch film, I'm just trying to

747
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 8: take away two or three things that I remember. If

748
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 8: this receiver does this in this type of formation, if

749
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 8: he has a tendency to do this, if he has

750
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 8: a tendency to push off, does he have a tendency

751
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 8: to stare step is over? Those are the things that

752
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 8: I'm trying to take away. So like, if he stares

753
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 8: steping is over, I'm not gonna be quick to jump

754
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 8: the over. I'm gonna kind of tempo it patiently. And

755
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 8: then once he makes that, once he makes that next

756
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 8: that second move over to the over Now I gotta

757
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 8: burst now, I got a strain to get over there.

758
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 8: And it's been better and better every single year. I

759
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 8: remember in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. I willn't as intentional

760
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 8: of taking you know, these key things away.

761
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: I was just watching film.

762
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: Just said, oh, yeah, I watched film.

763
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm good. And it's one of those things like

764
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 8: as a younger guy, you don't really know until you know,

765
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 8: like how can how can things benefit you instead of

766
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 8: just trying to do what everybody else does. So I

767
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 8: had one more point that I was gonna make, but yeah,

768
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 8: pretty much is two or three things, you know, like

769
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 8: the toss last week, I saw the Bunch and I

770
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 8: don't really want to give away, but.

771
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't get way, Yeah, don't give away of secrets

772
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: or anything. But just just just watching now.

773
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 8: In jenally a couple of things that may show up

774
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 8: in the game. Maybe it doesn't, but you just want

775
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 8: to have those things ready.

776
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 5: I'll pick it back off of that.

777
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 7: You say you watch other guys from other teams, and

778
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 7: as far as playing defensive back, who else in the

779
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 7: league do you look at to get a couple of

780
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 7: ideas from and see what they're doing out there against

781
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 7: certain wide receivers or things like that, or.

782
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 5: Who you do, who do you look up to yourself?

783
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 8: I really like Denzel Awards game. We were trying to

784
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 8: get in the off season sometimes some years, and I definitely

785
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 8: want to give people their flowers whenever I see them,

786
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 8: Whether people value that or not, I value you know,

787
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 8: just just saying hey, I like a game, sure, just

788
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 8: you know, I told him out the game. Actually this

789
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 8: past Sunday, I was like, every single week, I'm looking

790
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 8: to see, you know, what Denzel did on my iPad.

791
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 8: I'm looking to see his games aged Terrell, aged Terrell.

792
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 8: He's pretty intentional and coverage. I usually watch the men

793
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 8: and man corners just to see how they strain versus

794
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 8: coverage or how they work with other teammates. Gire, Alexander

795
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 8: Darius Lay.

796
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: Yeah like that.

797
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 4: So that's good stuff right there, Kenny Moore. The second

798
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 4: is whether it's last one for me and then we'll

799
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: cut you loose and have some fun here. But this

800
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: game on Sunday, right, you got two three and four teams,

801
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: and both teams I know coming off of back to

802
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 4: back losses. And then after this week some some road

803
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: games coming up in the month of November. Kenny, where

804
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: would you say the urgency is for this team going

805
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: into this game knowing you're kind of the middle point

806
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: of the season and this is the time of the

807
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: season where teams kind of start to separate themselves from

808
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: the good to the great and so on and so forth.

809
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a fine line of seeing where

810
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 8: we are versus this team. I think it'll be a

811
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 8: physical week. I think they love ball over there, just

812
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 8: watching their games, just watching the passion and tradition that

813
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 8: they have over there. I think they'll be ready to play,

814
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 8: and I think every time I turn the TV on

815
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 8: TV on, they're pretty much ready to play. Defense is scrappy,

816
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 8: So just a challenge for our defense, just like last week.

817
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 8: We want to do our best to be better than

818
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 8: their defense, and so, you know, hopefully we can come

819
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 8: out this game with a win.

820
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: I like it culture trying to get back to five hundred.

821
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: Move to four and four on the season, Kenny Moore.

822
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: There are five days between now and Halloween, so let's

823
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: do some rapid fire.

824
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.

825
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: BEFO we Club Kenny Moore, the seconds, Let's go back

826
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 4: to the eight year old version of you.

827
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: What was your favorite Halloween costume.

828
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: As a kid.

829
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 8: I probably would have chose like that man.

830
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh classic OLDI oldie Buddy Goodie.

831
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: Right there. Your favorite Halloween candy growing up as a

832
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: kid or even.

833
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 8: Now, probably like pieces or like a airhead.

834
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 9: Oh you can, you can hang out with. My kids

835
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 9: will fight you for the airhead. There'll be an absolute

836
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 9: war in the for the for the cherry airhead on

837
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 9: that one.

838
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: All right. Your favorite scary movie, either growing up or

839
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: now to this day.

840
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 8: Oh, I didn't. I don't like scary movies.

841
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: Join the club. You like scary movie? No, they do nothing.

842
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: I don't like them because I have nightmares and I

843
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 5: don't like that.

844
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: There you go, all right, the guy last one, the

845
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 4: guy on the team right now, your teammate, one of

846
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: your teammates, the guy that you would want to go

847
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 4: trick or treating with if you could as.

848
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: An adult, Julian. But yeah, you.

849
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: Guys are hand in hand right there. That's your guy

850
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 4: getting it done in the back right there. Number twenty

851
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: three and number thirty two, Julian Blackman. Hopefully those two

852
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: guys making some plays coming up on Sunday against the

853
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints. Kenny always love our conversations, man, Thanks

854
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: so much, sir. Always an enjoyable conversation with Kenny Moore

855
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: the Second, as I said, the longest tenured Colts player

856
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: on defense. Hard to believe he's been here since twenty

857
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: and seventeen. We talked about Ryan Kelly on offense. It's

858
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: Kenny Moore the second on defense. That was a fantastic conversation.

859
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: All right, He's going to be tasked with slowing down

860
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 4: this Saints offense coming up on Sunday, and that's what

861
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: I want to close.

862
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: Out the show with here.

863
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: And if you look at the Saints and you guys

864
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 4: know me and my cheesy metaphors. So this one popped

865
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: in my brain earlier this week, Casey, on game day

866
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: on Sunday of all days, I've got all my notes

867
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: ready to go.

868
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: I'm in the car.

869
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm pushing the start button on the old trusty Hondai

870
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: a Lantra, and the bad boy won't start game day.

871
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get the Lucas Oil Stadium dead battery.

872
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: Know this dead battery really day of the game. Yeah,

873
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 4: so I had to call Triple a. The guy came

874
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 4: in boom bota ban for gone.

875
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: So here I am.

876
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. So I'm driving north to Lucas

877
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: Oil Stadium. Shout out to the surface repair guy. He

878
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 4: was in and out. I forget his name, but gosh,

879
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: he was quick and efficient. Just want just like us

880
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 4: here in the podcast. But I think the Saints offense

881
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: is like a dead battery.

882
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Ah right, because they're only.

883
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 4: Averaging about nineteen points per game. They only got twelve touchdowns,

884
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: and it's perplexing down in Cajun Country because you look

885
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: at all the players they've got. They've got car they've

886
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: got Olave, Michael Thomas, Juwan Johnson's coming back, Alvin Kamara

887
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: catching the ball, running the ball out of the backfield.

888
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: How do the Colts bill on defense?

889
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 4: How do they make sure no jumper cables come out

890
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 4: at Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday and that battery for

891
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 4: the Saints remains drained?

892
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 7: Well, hopefully to keep that battery drain, I think one

893
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 7: of the things they have to is make sure that

894
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 7: Alvin Carmara doesn't get started. Don't let him get started,

895
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 7: don't let him get going, because I think they probably

896
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 7: want to run the ball because there has been some miscommunication,

897
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 7: some problems with connection out there in regards to.

898
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: Look at Derek.

899
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: Allright, miscommunication there is going to the minus signed Thomas.

900
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 7: So there's some there's some miscommunication out there between Derek Carr,

901
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 7: the receivers and things going on out there. From an

902
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 7: offensive standpoint, keep that problem for the Saints going all right,

903
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 7: and I think one of the things you could do

904
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 7: is stop Alvin Kamara, put them in third and long,

905
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 7: make them pass the ball. I'm sure they haven't got

906
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 7: all things worked out yet, the King's worked out, but

907
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 7: make them continue to pass the ball and hopefully can

908
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 7: slow down Kamara and then put them in third and

909
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 7: long and make them have to pass and put the

910
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 7: ball in Derek Carr's hands. Don't get me wrong, I

911
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 7: think Derek Carr will find me a frime quarterback. He

912
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 7: plays very well, but I think right now he's getting

913
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 7: adjusted to the Saints can adjust it to the new offense.

914
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 7: It's taking them awhile to get going. And let them

915
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 7: still have that confus us out there by putting more

916
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 7: pressure on him. Hopefully third and long. He stopped Gavin

917
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 7: Kamara Third and long. Yeah, make him throw.

918
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 4: The ball and Derek Carr might as well be playing

919
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: for the Tennessee Titans because he plays the Colts every year.

920
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: It's like a division game, sixth straight. So this is

921
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 4: going to be the sixth consecutive year the Coasts will

922
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 4: played Derek Carr.

923
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's a really funny point you think

924
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 6: about it, you know, in that in those terms, but.

925
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: Maybe six straight years.

926
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, you get to that point where I feel like

927
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 6: I know Derek Carr pretty well and I don't know

928
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: anything about the Saints if that it's one of those

929
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 6: things and when I started diving into the Saints, it's

930
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 6: like these guys I haven't thought about in so long.

931
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 6: But then you're like, but Derek Carr is there. I

932
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 6: know what he does so well. So that is funny.

933
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, because the Saints defense to

934
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: this point of the season, Bill talked about how up

935
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: and down their offense has been. You know, that's that's

936
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: been the unit. Their defense has been the unit that's

937
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: been powering the battery. We saw the Colts just dominate

938
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 4: and thrash and gash the Browns last week for four

939
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: fifty six and thirty eight points. The Saints are our

940
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 4: top five overall defense, got a really good front seven,

941
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: they got a really good back in with Marshaw and

942
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 4: Lattimore leading the charge.

943
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: There are you.

944
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: Confident the Colts can take full advantage of the Saints

945
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: just like they did the Browns despite those numbers coming in.

946
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: I am I'm I'm I'm becoming more and more bullish

947
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 6: on Shane Steichen every week. There's things that he tells

948
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 6: us that I'm like, like, man, he just has this.

949
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: I didn't think much of you at the beginning of

950
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: the season.

951
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a coach, that's not what I'm saying.

952
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 6: But there's just something too, like you head into a

953
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 6: week where you're not necessarily counted out, but it's almost like, oh,

954
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 6: you think, so, here's what I'm going to do to you.

955
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: I mean, we saw that game against the Titans. It

956
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 6: was You're not going to be able to run at

957
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 6: all against this Tennessee Titans front. They're really good, and

958
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 6: all of a sudden it was like boom, big run

959
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 6: after big run after big run after big run. And

960
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 6: then last week this Browns defense, you know, one of

961
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: the best in the last fifty years, and you go up.

962
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: And put press problem.

963
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 6: I mean, you almost put up for five hundred total

964
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 6: yards out there, So I don't know necessarily if we're

965
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 6: going to see.

966
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: A repeat like last week.

967
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 6: I think last week, they're also a handful of things

968
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 6: that played into those big numbers. We talked about it,

969
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 6: you know, you know, the offsides, penalties, You're able to

970
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 6: take advantage of Michael Pittman breaking a tackle for a

971
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 6: seventy five yard score. All those end up adding to

972
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 6: a lot of the big numbers. But I do think

973
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 6: that the Colts and Shane Stike and are gonna be

974
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 6: able to, you know, carve up some things in the

975
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 6: Saints defense, just because that's kind of what we've seen

976
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 6: in him to this point. So I'm not at all

977
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 6: surprised when he's able to go at some of these teams.

978
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 6: I mean, this Colts offense, they're top ten and both

979
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 6: running in passing, and that's nothing to just throw away.

980
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 6: Because we're through seven weeks of this, so it's it's

981
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 6: a pretty good sample site. So I think we know

982
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 6: what this Colts offense can do, and I like their

983
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 6: chances to put up another good performance against this defense.

984
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: And both of these teams we talked about the Colts

985
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: in the schedule, it's kind of heating up as far

986
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: as adversity away from Lucas Oil Stadium coming up after Sunday.

987
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: Only one home game in the month of November and

988
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: that doesn't come until the Sunday after Thanksgiving, So it's

989
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: going to be about a month before the Colts play

990
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: in front of the faithful at Lucas Oil Stadium. But

991
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: the bigger picture here, Bill is is that both of

992
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 4: these teams are three and four. The Saints are coming

993
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 4: off of that Thursday night game kind of that many

994
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: buy a lot of people are throwing some stuff at

995
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: their house. The offensive coordinator is kind of under under

996
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: fire a little bit. Dennis Allen's under fire a little bit.

997
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: Derek Carr. You know, maybe some fans are saying, man,

998
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: we got buyer's remorse on this guy after we spend

999
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: a lot of money on him in free agency in

1000
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: the offseason. But they've had some time to kind of

1001
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: tweak and fine tune some stuff, clean up some of

1002
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: that miscommunication that they've had to this point on offense.

1003
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: It just seems like this is a turning point type

1004
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: of game for both teams. Both teams three and four

1005
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: going into that middle part of the season, the Colts

1006
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: are going to play some road games coming up. It

1007
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: seems like it's a put up or shut up type

1008
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: of game for both teams that have a lot to

1009
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: play for.

1010
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you there.

1011
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 7: It's very important this week coming up against the Saints

1012
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 7: and for the Saints as well, for both of those

1013
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 7: teams to play well and for the teams that want

1014
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 7: to win from the same standpoint, they want to stay

1015
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 7: within the striking condition, the striking distance of the division.

1016
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: You know what.

1017
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 7: They're behind a little bit, but they want to stay

1018
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 7: in striking distance, so they don't want to lose another game,

1019
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 7: you know, go to back to back games where they lose.

1020
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 7: And for the Coats, for me, it is it's getting

1021
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 7: back on track, getting back on that winning track, especially

1022
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 7: at home. Okay, you beat the Tennessee Titans here at

1023
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 7: home and then you lose to Cleveland. You know, we

1024
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 7: got to start backing those wins up, those big wins,

1025
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 7: because that was a big win against Tennessee. I got

1026
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 7: back those wins up with more wins at home, and

1027
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 7: you know, it kind of established that home dominance again

1028
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 7: that you know what, when teams come in to Lucas

1029
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 7: Oil Stadium. They know it's going to be a very

1030
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 7: difficult day to play and win football games, and I

1031
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 7: think they have to get to that point. And that's

1032
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 7: why I think this week is a big game for

1033
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 7: the Coats against.

1034
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: The Saints, one of their last nine winning at home.

1035
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: It's bizarre to think about that.

1036
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you're one and eight in the

1037
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 6: last nine games at home. And I agree, Bill, I

1038
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 6: think it's a put up or shut up kind of game.

1039
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 6: And for a lot of reasons, I think you never

1040
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 6: look forward. But if you look at this next three

1041
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 6: game stretch before the bye, it's a very winnable schedule.

1042
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to, you know, say the colt should

1043
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 6: go out, but there are games that they can really

1044
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 6: help get that momentum swing. And you're always looking around,

1045
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 6: especially the division, but also in the AFC, and you

1046
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 6: look at Jacksonville.

1047
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: Their winners are the last four.

1048
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 6: So you have to start racking together some wins just

1049
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 6: to stay on their heels, to put the pressure on.

1050
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 6: And I know this team wants to. I mean, you

1051
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 6: have seen when this team plays well, they can compete

1052
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 6: with anybody. So when you look at the playoffs and

1053
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 6: all that stuff. It's obtainable for this team. You just

1054
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 6: have to get back on track, and I think there's

1055
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: no better way to do that than at home, right

1056
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 6: I mean, these guys are wanting to win at home.

1057
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 6: You saw the victory against Tennessee. We all think they

1058
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 6: should have won last weekend, but you still come away

1059
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 6: with the loss. Getting a win at home set up

1060
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 6: back to back road trips, one of them going to Germany.

1061
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 6: It'd be really good to kind of string together a

1062
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 6: good streak and then you get a week off to

1063
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 6: kind of reset a bunch of things, and you really

1064
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 6: go out of that by with a real positive note hopefully.

1065
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1066
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: Three games to the bye, that's a real big benchmark

1067
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 4: right now for this team. If you're six and four

1068
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 4: with a week off, hell yeah, yep. Oh, Now now

1069
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: you're cooking, baby, and now you're getting ready for Thanksgiving

1070
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: yellow fried turkey. There all the side the return home

1071
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: to Lucas Oil Stadium and play the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1072
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 4: Great stuff right there here on this Spooky What's Scary,

1073
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 4: That's Terrifying edition of the Official Cults Podcast Five Days

1074
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: before Halloween. Bill Brooks, Casey Valley I'm Matt Taylor.

1075
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: Bill, you might get.

1076
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 4: Rained on on Sunday during the during the pregame show,

1077
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 4: we might have to move you in.

1078
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 5: That's all right. I don't mind the rain. It won't

1079
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: bother me too much.

1080
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: Right here.

1081
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 5: Wow, Look if I could play on zero, No, I

1082
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 5: could play in Buffalo and blows.

1083
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 8: Rain.

1084
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I can.

1085
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 6: I can do just circle snow and rain, just circles

1086
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: right around buff.

1087
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 7: Also, for the equipment, I'm worried about, not me. I'm

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Speaker 7: worried about the equipment out there, not me.

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Speaker 2: On and I out for the forecast.

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Speaker 4: Going to the game on Sunday, there is rain in

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Speaker 4: the forecast, So dress appropriately and tailgate appropriately for a

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Speaker 4: huge game here in late October. It's the Colts and

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Speaker 4: the Saints kickoff on Sunday one o'clock. You can hear

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Speaker 4: all the action on the Bell Tire Radio network locally

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Speaker 4: in Indianapolis, of course, on ninety three to five, one

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Speaker 4: seven five the Fan and our sister station there ninety

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Speaker 4: seven to one Hank FM. Casey has got the countdown

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Speaker 4: to kickoff beginning at noon, and then Bill and the

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Speaker 4: boys have you on the Colts pre game huddle beginning

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Speaker 4: at ten ten to noon and ten am begins all

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Speaker 4: of the pregame coverage and kicks off nine hours of

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Speaker 4: game day coverage Colts and Saints. We're breaking it down

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Speaker 4: next week getting ready for Colts and Panthers. But more

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Speaker 4: on this matchup as always, stay here on YouTube and

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Speaker 4: the Colts Audio Network all the way until Sunday and

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Speaker 4: we will talk to you next Thursday to day on

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Speaker 4: the Official Cults Podcast, brought to you by When Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Have a great weekend.