1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have an update 3 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: in the death of Celeste Reeves involving the rapper slash 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: singer Slash whatever, David, a child who was severely burned 5 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: from a freak accident involving their tablet, a discovery leading 6 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: to investigators to think that there was someone trying to 7 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: harm a child during Halloween trick or treating. An update 8 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: on butt breathing, and a dead body that was found 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: in a house that was auctioned. All that and more 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: on today's episode. 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So, last month we reported that a teen girl 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: was found dead in the trunk of singer David's tesla. 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: So As reported that girl was identified as Celeste Reeves. 14 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: So there hasn't been that much information that has come 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: out after her death, which I thought was really unusual 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: because this was huge the week it came out and 17 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: all the speculation was happening. But nobody's been arrested in 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: the crime yet, and nobody really has any understanding of 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: how she died. Was it a homicide, was an accident? 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: What happened? Right? So now the owner of the house 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: he was running in LA has hired a private investigator 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: to go through the home, and in that search, the 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: private investigator found farm tools that he believed could be 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: used to get rid of a body. 25 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he didn't specifically say what the farm tools were, 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: so who knows. But I mean one point to pick 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: out is that he's living in the Hollywood Hills of 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 2: LA and the guy was just like, there's no reason 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: on earth that you would ever need these tools at 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: this property, whatever it. 31 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: Was, or most people in residential properties, and. 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Did you see that house, by the way, it is ridiculous, 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: It's insane, right. So another thing is like, I'm sure 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: most people that could afford a twenty thousand dollars plus 35 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: a month payment for their living situation are probably having 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: private gardeners or landscape people. Like why would they even 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: have that shit? It's just very unusual to have equipment 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: like that. What else could it be used for? But 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: it also is extreme speculation to say. 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: You keep it. 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: You can get rid of a body with a scalpel 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: blade if you really wanted to. 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, there's a million ways you can get her. 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: And like, let's say this too, because I don't think 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: that we've had any confirmation of this that she was 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: actually dismembered, because she could have been disarticulated because of decomposition. 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: We've talked about that when we first talked about this story. 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: So I don't know that anyone was necessarily trying to 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: get rid of her in her body in that way 50 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: because we don't know for sure that she was actually dismembered. Well, 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: no one's confirm that, correct, No, And we also don't 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: know for a fact that she was murdered, Like obviously 53 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: it seems like it's gonna lean that way, but what 54 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: if she got I think I think that they know 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: for sure it was murdered because they're conducting it as 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: a homicide investigation, because otherwise why would they. 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but wouldn't you conduct it that way if it's 58 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: undetermined because right now we don't have a manner or 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: cause of death. 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Possibly, But I don't I don't know to that extent, honestly, 61 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: because they know way more than they're telling us, Like 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: they're saying all we know is like kind of what came. 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: From the news. 64 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: Basically that a medical examiner has been tight lipped a 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: shit about this. They haven't said anything so we don't 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: know what they saw. 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: We don't know. 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: They're saying, like, I'm sure the toxicology is back by now. 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: They they know what's happening, but they're just not saying 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: anything because they're trying to investigate this properly and get 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: a person to be in you know, responsible for this. 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: I think it was likely she was bernered, but at 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: the same time, you have to think like she could 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: have well indeed in the house and somebody put her 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: in the car because they're like, this is this isn't 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: my problem. 77 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are there's definitely possibilities of other 79 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: things happening, and we don't know. We don't know if 80 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: they saw signs of strangulation or or signs of previous 81 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: abuse where her bones broken, did she have a gunshot 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: women like, we don't know any of that stuff. But 83 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: I know that everybody keeps saying that she was dismembered, 84 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: and that would obviously change things a little bit if 85 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: she was. Indeed, I just think out a person could 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: become dismembered naturally too, So I just think that the speculation, 87 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: the speculation is is pretty It's a lot the. 88 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: Way the news whorded that she was dismembered, made me, 89 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: who barely knows anything about what you do at all, 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: think that they misunderstood what they heard well because oh 91 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: we wasn't like we don't know, Yeah, it was was 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: worded very weird. Yeah, and like you're saying, she could 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: have been decomposing in her limbs, could just start like 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: slipping off and stuff. 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they'll be able to tell that, 96 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: especially because they'll be able to see knife marks and 97 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: saw marks if there were even on the bones, even 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: if most of the soft tissue is gone, they'll be 99 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: able to tell if it was that. And they'll also 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: be able to you know, they're going to do or 101 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: they've already done, like all of this is already done, 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: and they know. They're just trying to hone in on 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: this investigation. So who who hired this guy to go there? 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: The owner of the rental property, which I thought was odd, 105 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: but maybe they're just worried they're going to be liable 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: in this case at all, so they're trying to clear 107 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: their name of anything. 108 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: See it is. 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: It's interesting too, because you would think that if that's 110 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: where David was living, that that if they were investigating him, 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: then that would be off limits for some private investigator to. 112 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Go there unless he's I mean, at this point, is 113 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: he not paying the rent, does he not live there anymore? 114 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: Did he stilled it behind? 115 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: That would be considered I mean, if the police did 116 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: consider that to be a crime scene, that wouldn't be 117 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 2: allowed to be visited by anyone unless they were done 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: with it. 119 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: So they's just like really sure of the logistics of 120 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: all that. But this is what the guy is saying 121 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: that he found. 122 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: No I know, I believe that. 123 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: I just I mean even I know that everybody thinks 124 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: it's just based upon what we we've heard in the 125 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: news that he's dating this girl that's a that's a 126 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: young teenager, And we were talking about this, we talked 127 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: about this on every episode that sometimes like guys are 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: in a shitty situation because people could lie about their agent. 129 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: If he didn't know that she was a child. There's 130 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: a possibility that he did know, but there's also possibility 131 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: that he didn't know because I believe that her friends 132 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: of theirs had said that they thought she was a 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: usc college student. 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's also a missing minor on a missing poster. 135 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: So like that not very far away, an hour from 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: where she's living. So I just find it very hard 137 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: to believe. 138 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: Do you know. 139 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: Who's missing in the Philadelphia Camden area dough Jersey right now? Like? No? 140 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: Do you know? 141 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: I see stuff online? 142 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: It's like, but you you have a mental picture of 143 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: all of the people that are missing that you would 144 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: know that you were with one, Like no. 145 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: But I would remember if I knew the person and 146 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: they were living in my house. 147 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you haven't seen every single person that's missing. 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: It's just like that's that's not even I understand that 149 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: that seems weird. But I mean I saw today a 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: person that is missing. I see it almost every day 151 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: that there's a person in our town that's missing, or 152 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who they are, Like I 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: don't pay attention to The point is there's a lot 154 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: of unanswered questions in this. What was the nature of 155 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: their relationship, what was going on with her family? Was 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: she actually considered a missing person or did her family 157 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: know she was with him the whole time? Because there 158 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: was that point brought up too. Yeah, there's there's a 159 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: lot of things that it could be brought up with it, 160 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: but regardless, like even if he's completely innocent somehow and 161 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: not involved, because it did seem like he wasn't in 162 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: town around that time, but we don't know that either. 163 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: But he's not gonna just be sitting there open because 164 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: this is like a really big deal, and his lawyer 165 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: is even being really quiet, like they just want to 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: make sure they totally clear him if he is innocent 167 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: or his lawyer is Blair Berg who who did the 168 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein try. 169 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: Also, I don't think they're gonna be saying anything until 170 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: they know exactly what they're working with yet. But other 171 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: information came out from the private investigator, which was that 172 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: this tesla that she was found in was David's everyday 173 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: car and was regularly used until February, and he reportedly 174 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: got a new car at that time, and he had 175 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: forty five parking citations as of February, and the next 176 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: one wasn't until September when the car was towed. So 177 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: this PI is saying that security footage showed that the 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: car was last moved from its normal spot in front 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: of David's home on July twenty ninth and parked just 180 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: a few blocks away, where it stayed until of neighbor 181 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: file to complain on August twenty ninth. The car was 182 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: towed a week after that. She was found three days 183 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: after the car was towed, So they believe now that 184 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: she's been in the car since July twenty ninth, when 185 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: I believe when the story first came out, they had 186 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: only thought she was in there for a week or two. 187 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, which we were like, no, she wouldn't be severely 188 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: decomposed that quick. Yeah, okay, so that's interesting. Do you 189 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: think like it totally could be possible. I mean, if 190 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: he's living in a house like that and has money 191 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: like that, isn't there a possibility that there could be 192 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: like assistants and other people living at the house and 193 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: he could have left and left the girl there. 194 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: And but who moved the car because don't tesla's have 195 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: cameras on them. 196 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 197 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure they looked at all this. It's it's just 198 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: like the Brian Coburger case. Like remember they they got murdered, right, 199 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: was it right before Thanksgiving? I feel like it was 200 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: like the week before Thanksgiving or something, and everybody was 201 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: just like, what's going on, What's going on? And then 202 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they had this huge case build 203 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: and dropped it like after Christmas and was just like 204 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: we just arrested this guy his DNA, like they had 205 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: phone records, DNA all this. Nobody knew what was going 206 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: on behind the scenes, Like why are they going to 207 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: tell people? 208 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: It's just we did buy the autopsy report, which they 209 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: said they'd released after they determined everything, so we will. 210 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: My thirty two dollars back. 211 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: I get seriously, Okay, a nine year old boy had 212 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: fallen asleep with his tablet charging on the bed next 213 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: to his head, and at some point in the night, 214 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: the metal necklace he was wearing a cat on the 215 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: cord and sparked a fire on his neck, which left 216 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: his neck, head, and hands with burns. 217 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we've had this before, a couple cases in 218 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: the grocer room too. It's it's a it's a big 219 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: thing that they say that kids shouldn't sleep with a 220 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: tablet or even a phone in their bed. It should 221 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: be on something hard, like a night's stand table or 222 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: something like that, because it just increases the wrist that 223 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: it's going to catch on fire. The cord was wrapped 224 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: around the kid's neck a little bit and he had 225 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: a necklace on, which definitely didn't help. And I don't know, 226 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: like the mom, I guess it was the mom was 227 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: interviewed and said something that he had severe burns and 228 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: he was electrocuted, which I don't first he wasn't electrocuted 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 2: because when you're electrocuted, you're dead, so he would gotten 230 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: electric shock perhaps, but I don't even know if that 231 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: was really the mechanism of what happened or because it 232 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: could have been something to do with the metal necklace 233 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: conducting with the cord, especially you know if the cord 234 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: gets loses the plastic on the outside of it, you know, 235 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: like if it's terrors where you're plugging it in because 236 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: kids like rip it out like that could have conducted 237 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: something that could have caused an electric shock. But it 238 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: was more than likely because it was wrapped up in 239 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: the blanket and it just caught on fire. 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: They're just so scary how easily it could happen. 241 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: It is, and the recommendations like from I don't know 242 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: what it is, National fire Prevention whatever, it's just so 243 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: like not practical. It says every single time you have 244 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: a device, you should only charge it with the charger 245 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: that it came with, and then if if you can't 246 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: do that, you have to get another one from the manufacturer. Like, 247 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I'm not paying thirty dollars for an 248 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: Apple charger when I could get two of them for 249 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: ten dollars on Amazon, you know what I mean? And 250 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: I think most people think that way. The chargers don't last, 251 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: even the ones from Apple don't last. They you're replacing 252 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: them multiple times. I can't even tell you. You lose them, 253 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: the kids lose them. I feel like I have them 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: all over the place because they're just constantly getting lost 255 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: and not working or whatever. It's just not practical to 256 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: think that way, So I guess the safest way is 257 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: to just make sure that you don't have it laying 258 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: on fabric. 259 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: Well. 260 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think children in general should be 261 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: having the device plugged in right next to them, because 262 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: you just want to minimize the risk anyway. Yeah, it 263 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: just sucks because this kid's got some he had to 264 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: go to a pediatric burn unit and he's got a 265 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: burn around his neck, and of course wearing the necklace 266 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: didn't help, you know, No, beca's just basically just heated 267 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: it up. 268 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a freak thing. But I feel like 269 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: we've talked about this. I might even have pictures on Instagram, 270 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: like years and years and years ago, a couple different 271 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: cases of this involving the charging cord and kids getting burned, 272 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: especially like around their neck. 273 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so every Halloween we have stories about candy being 274 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: tampered with, and this year in Canton, Michigan, people are 275 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: claiming that there were sewing needles found in candy. 276 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 277 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not an accident. There's no way that 278 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: there would accidentally get a sewing needle into a piece 279 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: of candy. That was a big thing when I was 280 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: a kid. It was that and like razor blades. So 281 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: momm and pop Pap would be like, we need to 282 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: check your candy, which I always thought was kind of bullshit. 283 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, you just want to take whatever candy that 284 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: you want out of my pile. But we wrote we 285 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: did a high profile death disseection on Halloween deaths involving 286 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: candy a couple of years ago, remember that. And really, 287 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: the only death that has ever been reported from a 288 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: kid taking Halloween candy and dying is from the seventies 289 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: where a kid had a pixie stick that was filled 290 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: with cyanide and died. That's the only reported case. 291 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this didn't happen, But you also know 292 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: how easy it would be in this day and age, 293 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: with people wanting to do anything to get famous on 294 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the internet, to go in your house and stick one 295 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: in and say you found it. It's impossible to trace 296 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: back that you did it or you did it. 297 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get, I mean that's totally possible. 298 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: But was it like something that went viral as a 299 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: social media video or did they actually just call police 300 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: and say no. 301 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: But if you call police, like your picture's going to 302 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: be on the news. 303 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 304 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying people can do it with mal intent, 305 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm just saying, like, 306 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: as somebody that embroiders and has a million sewing needles 307 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: in my house, it would be so easy to take 308 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: the kid's candy and just stick one in and be like, 309 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, I found it, so we would. 310 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Well maybe they should be checking your house. Well no, 311 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: because I just don't I don't understand the point, Like 312 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: it would suck if a kid bit into that. But honestly, 313 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: like if you're biting straightforward. 314 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: You wouldn't. 315 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: Like a child isn't going to stick an entire fun 316 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: size whatever it was TwixT or milky way in their 317 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: mouth at once. You usually bite it and you would 318 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: bite right into it. Even if they did put it 319 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: in their whole mouth, they would chew and maybe get 320 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: stabbed in their mouth and that would kind of suck. 321 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: But like, you wouldn't really, it really wouldn't do anything. 322 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't understand. I don't understand the point of it. 323 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm also the cyani and the pixie stick gets the 324 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: job done if that's what you're trying to do, right, Like, 325 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't get it. 326 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm only kind of like questioning this too because in 327 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: the picture of the sewing needle is sticking so far 328 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: out of the candy wrapper, and I just think, like, 329 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: you can stick the whole thing in without somebody noticing, 330 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: So why would you have half of it sticking out? 331 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't even make any sense if you were trying 332 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: to actually hurt a child, it doesn't even make any 333 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: sense to have it so obviously sticking out of the wrapper. 334 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's weird. But we I mean, in 335 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: that depth of section, we did. There was a lot 336 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: of different interesting stories that were happening over the years, 337 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: and a big one that was happening that year. I 338 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: think I wrote that in twenty twenty two, was that 339 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: there were a lot of drugs that were being smuggled 340 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: into the country, like in nerds boxes and stuff like 341 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: illegal street drugs, fatanyl and stuff. These drugs instead of 342 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: being white pills, they were like colored pills that were 343 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: be attractive to children, like stuff like that. That's scary too, 344 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: but it's the same thing like if you're if you're 345 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: pushing fatanyl, like why would you give it to a kid? 346 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: Like why would you waste your drugs on kids? You 347 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: know it costs money. 348 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's obviously evil people that want to harm children, 349 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: but I just think this is a waste of time. 350 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: And it's not like I mean, I guess in theory 351 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: the kid could swallow the sewing needle and have damage, right. 352 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, and have a perforation. Like it's just it's 353 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: just a very weird way to injure someone. 354 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: It's just I'm just saying, like I'm questioning it because 355 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: of how it was placed, and everybody's desired to be 356 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: on TV in the news social media today, so I'm 357 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: definitely not saying it didn't happen, but I think it's 358 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: unusual that the needle was sticking out so obviously far. 359 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: So this episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room. 360 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 3: Guys. We have this week's high profile. 361 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: That dissection is on Lindsey Clancy, remember the mom who 362 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: killed her three children and tried to kill herself, which 363 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: may be a result of severe postpartum depression that was 364 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: managed with lots and lots of psychiatric meds. So make 365 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: sure you check out that post. And we've done a 366 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: bunch of Halloween related things and obviously Halloween is over, 367 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: but just since we were just talking about, you know, 368 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: kids getting candy that killed them and things like that, 369 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: I did a post on Halloween about all of the 370 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: different links to stories for I mean, anyone that's in 371 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: the Grosser Room really usually is a Halloween all year 372 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: person like myself, So you might enjoy that and check 373 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: it out. We also have a post that you know, 374 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: re if you go to a circus or something and 375 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: you see a woman is usually put on a wheel 376 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: and they spin the wheel and then there's a guy 377 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: that's like throwing knives around her body. Yeah, so what 378 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: happens when one of those knives actually hits the body. 379 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: That is one of the nastiest pictures I've ever seen 380 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: in there. It's so gross. 381 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: No, it's it's really disturbing. 382 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: And like, I mean, we do have a few circus 383 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: we actually I think we did a high profile dis 384 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: section on circus stuff with injuries and then just like 385 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: all one of the cool parts of that one was 386 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: all of the cool like pathologies that people had, you know, 387 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: the human mermaid and the woman with the beard and 388 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: all this different stuff. So I think it's kind of cool. 389 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, head over to the groscroom dot com now to 390 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: sign up. 391 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: All right, So, back in September of twenty twenty four, 392 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: we talked about this anal breathing. 393 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so Japanese and US researchers have developed a treatment 394 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: for people who can't breathe through their lungs and they're 395 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: calling it but breathing. So what did we talk about 396 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: before versus now? 397 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: So I guess this guy, this Japanese scientist, has won 398 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: a prize because he figured out this technology that a 399 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: lot of animals actually breathe through their anus. So they're 400 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: trying to hope to see or get some oxygen through 401 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: the They're trying to hope to see if they could 402 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: figure that out in humans, because that would be a 403 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: huge step in trying to help people that are having 404 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: difficulty breathing or that cannot get oxygen in through their mouth. 405 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: So that was what we talked about last year, just 406 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: that he has discovered that this might be a thing 407 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: for humans as well. Now fast forward, they're starting to 408 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: get into the testing phase of this to see if 409 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: they could actually bring this scientific research to life. And 410 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: they did this study where they got a bunch of 411 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: guys who volunteered. They were let me see how if 412 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: it said, twenty seven healthy men, they inserted this thing 413 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: inside of their rectum and they put this fluid up there, 414 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: And this wasn't the fluid that will be used in 415 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: the future with oxygen in it. Because the hope is 416 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: is that they'll be able to put this fluid up 417 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 2: inside rectum and this fluid will get absorbed into the 418 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: intestinal wall and it will take that oxygen rich fluid 419 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 2: and bring it to the body in the circulatory system 420 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: and around to the organs. So that's like their end goal. 421 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: But right now, they just want to see that people 422 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 2: can tolerate getting fluid up their butt like that. So 423 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: they had these twenty seven guys volunteer and they put 424 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: this big, large amount of this viscous like thick like 425 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to like honey, like you know, like 426 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: a thicker fluid, not honey because it's kind of sticky, 427 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: but just like a thicker fluid up inside of their rectum. 428 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: And twenty of them were able to tolerate it for 429 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: one hour and they said that it was uncomfortable, but 430 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: it didn't cause any damage and like. 431 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: They survived it. 432 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: And so there they think that that's a good step 433 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: that now they could see that people can tolerate having 434 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: the fluid up there for an hour. So now they 435 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: want to try to do it with the actual real 436 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: fluid to see if there is oxygen transport through the 437 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: intestinal wall and into the body. 438 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: So what what are they trying to do with this? 439 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: Like is it for daily use for people that struggle breathing, 440 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: or is it for emergency situations? 441 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: So it's just it's just for any kind of treatment 442 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: where it's difficult to get air into the lungs through 443 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: the mouth. Lung disease infections anything like that. So it's 444 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: just it's just kind of a bypass of the lungs 445 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: and the typical way that we think of breathing an 446 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: oxygen exchange for now, because they're because in the right now, 447 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: when you breathe, there's oxygen exchange that happens in the lungs. 448 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: But if the lungs are so damaged and that can't happen, 449 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: a person could end up dying because of that. So 450 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: if they're able to get oxygen into the blood a 451 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: different kind of way, I mean that that could be 452 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: and I'm totally don't even know this, but just speaking 453 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: out a term of like COVID and stuff like when 454 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: the lungs are so damaged, like if there was a 455 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 2: way for the lungs to heal and not have to 456 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: carry on that oxygen exchange while it was happening in 457 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: another way, that could be like a life changing thing 458 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: for reversible lung damage. 459 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Anyway, So do you think they're going to rename it 460 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: to something other than butt breathing sounds kind of insane. 461 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: Well, this, this actual procedure is called enteral ventilation. So 462 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: instead of you would say, like you hear of a 463 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: ventilator and stuff. We heard that a lot during COVID. 464 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: That is when it is put into the mouth. This 465 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: is going into the enteric system or the GI system, 466 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: And it does have a different name, but I mean, 467 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: butt breathing is definitely more catchy. 468 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: All right. 469 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: In Texas, a house went into a foreclosure and eventually 470 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: was sold at an auction. So last week, the new 471 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: homeowner goes into the house and finds a previous sixty 472 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: nine year old homeowner dead on the living room carpet 473 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: just feet from the front door. And the worst part 474 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: is is that the ha was like, well, we were 475 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: sending notices of past news and she wasn't getting back 476 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: to us, and the mail carrier was noticing a piling 477 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: up of her mail, but nobody checked on her. 478 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 479 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: I just think it's crazy that you could put a 480 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: house up for foreclosure and then auction and nobody even 481 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: walks through it to see, like what happened to the homeowner? 482 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. And they're like, oh, 483 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: we're trying to contact next of kin so we could 484 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: figure out why nobody reported her missing. Why weren't the 485 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: neighbors worried about her? For mail was obviously piling up, 486 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: and she stopped paying her bills. 487 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: Clearly, I feel like this is just like a freak 488 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: thing because this would happen more often with elderly people especially. 489 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: I just can't I agree with you one hundred percent. 490 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe they can auction off a house and 491 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: not go inside. 492 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: You're like, what if there was a crime there or 493 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: something or anything, Well. 494 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: There was a day. 495 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: It's exciting though, Like if you buy houses that you 496 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: that are auctions, it's just like you just have no 497 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: idea what you're gonna find when you walk in. 498 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: That's like kind of exciting. 499 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: But you also just bought a house that you didn't 500 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: even see the inside, yeah, because it was like, you 501 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: buy it, it doesn't matter what the inside looks like. 502 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: You get it really cheap, and it might be in 503 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: a good neighborhood, and maybe your intentions are just like 504 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: gut it or knock it down anyway, so like who cares? 505 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. This just kind of made me really 506 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: sad that nobody cared enough first of all, to report 507 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: this lady missing, and that her neighbors were just like, oh, 508 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: we totally noticed all these problems when nobody checked on her. 509 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think, like especially mailman, we could talk 510 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: to Mike or mailman about this, but they he even knows, 511 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: Like if we're away for like one or two nights, 512 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: he'll like say something like, did you guys go away? 513 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: Like they had they notice patterns of how people do 514 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: things right, Yeah, and that should be like the number 515 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: one clue. When people aren't collecting their mail, that something 516 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: they're either on an extended trip or they're dead. 517 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: Like what else could it be. 518 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: Obviously you shouldn't have sound you shouldn't sound an alarm 519 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: after three days because somebody could just be on vacation. 520 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: But if it's turning into like over a week, two weeks, 521 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: a month, they said this lady could have been there 522 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: for several weeks up to months. 523 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and she wasn't paying her mortgage. That's how 524 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: they foreclosed, Like they foreclosed on the house. 525 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: It had to be so long. I know, I don't 526 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: know this just it really just bumms me out to 527 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: just think you could just be laying there and just 528 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: nobody cares. 529 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, I don't know what condition this 530 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: woman was in. I'm but I'm saying that it probably 531 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: wasn't good. 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